What's the Earliest English Word?

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@leahcimolrac1477
@leahcimolrac1477 6 жыл бұрын
Gægogæ is actually the Old English word for Google.
@JakubS
@JakubS 5 жыл бұрын
They must have been really into incest then
@SvendleBerries
@SvendleBerries 5 жыл бұрын
@@JakubS Par for the course when it comes to the company then, eh?
@patriciajrs46
@patriciajrs46 5 жыл бұрын
Funny.
@Dan_Ben_Michael
@Dan_Ben_Michael 5 жыл бұрын
@Leahcim Olrac I bet you cheated and looked it up on Gægogæ Translate.
@Jos1_1dgy
@Jos1_1dgy 5 жыл бұрын
@@bisqkuit gay go away
@politicallyinaccuratetoast4757
@politicallyinaccuratetoast4757 5 жыл бұрын
Teacher: the test isn't hard The test: þis syndon þa domas þe Æđelbirht cyning asette on Agustinus dæge
@pompompurin2006
@pompompurin2006 5 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: the test is in math class
@floightoficarusw4329
@floightoficarusw4329 5 жыл бұрын
🍑🍆🦍😩
@alexlaxson3261
@alexlaxson3261 5 жыл бұрын
@@pompompurin2006 lol fuck that
@majingojira
@majingojira 7 жыл бұрын
If only for ironic reasons, I love the idea that the earliest English word is "English".
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
That's what makes that one so tempting, isn't it...
@heta330
@heta330 6 жыл бұрын
Nope it was called Anglish back then
@finnianquail8881
@finnianquail8881 6 жыл бұрын
@@heta330 It was called Englisc
@ArloDraws
@ArloDraws 5 жыл бұрын
@@finnianquail8881 Ænglisc
@lizleapin1835
@lizleapin1835 5 жыл бұрын
I have to say I like this one too!
@thaincrediblemaier
@thaincrediblemaier 7 жыл бұрын
gaegogae ? As a german guy I was instantly thinking this could just mean "given as" because it reminds me of "gegeben" (if the stress is on the "go" sylable) "Given as a reward..." would make a lot of sense.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Well, you may be right about the 'gae' syllable being a verbal prefix; the theory about it meaning 'howling she wolf' is based on the idea that 'gae' is a prefix, and 'gogae' means 'howler'. But the Old English version of 'give' had already changed the 'b' of the Germanic root to 'v/f', so that's unlikely to be what it is.
@IcedFire89
@IcedFire89 7 жыл бұрын
Has anybody considered gaegogae might just be a name or nickname? I do realize that there are specific perimeters to Old Norse names, and I don't know enough on the subject to know if that may have still held over into Old English, but runes didn't have an upper and lower case, never mind a rule to when each would be used (like for proper nouns in ME or nouns in Modern German).
@timothyeachus7242
@timothyeachus7242 6 жыл бұрын
That’s a cognate, it’s gebed in Anglo-Saxon (I think pronounced as yebed to a modern English speaker)
@unstoppableboy9859
@unstoppableboy9859 3 жыл бұрын
That would be "Gaefogaen", hence dialectal "Yiven" (Give comes from Old Norse)
@12tone
@12tone 7 жыл бұрын
I'm voting Anglii not because I necessarily think it's right, but because I think it's the cutest answer, and I love when things work out like that.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
+12tone That is the best reason to choose anything, as far as I'm concerned!
@12tone
@12tone 7 жыл бұрын
Plus ,I'm a music theorist, so I get to make up whatever answers I want anyway.
@Novusod
@Novusod 6 жыл бұрын
I have a theory that Anglii, Angle, (Angle-Land), Ankle, angler are related to the Egyptian hieroglyph "Ankh" ☥ which is pronounced the same as in 'anchor.' Ankh originally was tied piece of rope with the "ank" ☥ sound referring to the bend of the rope. All written words lead to Rome but all sounds come from Egyptian the language of the gods. The Egyptian word for water is "Nu" pounced N-oo as in "new." When the Niel river floods the land is renewed (watered) One is born wet (Nu) -> nude
@aloysiusdevadanderabercrombie8
@aloysiusdevadanderabercrombie8 6 жыл бұрын
Woah, it's weird to see you here! I love your channel.
@ravenalbj
@ravenalbj 6 жыл бұрын
Novusod. You seem to relate the name Nile (niel) River with the word "Nu" meaning wet. The original name for Nile River was Egiptus. The name Nil or Niel came from a certain Egyptian king named Nilus who did a lot of work on the delta. Actually the very Egyptian word N-oo for water as in "new", may have come from the very word RE-NEW-ED. You know very well the name of god RE and the fact that the word "new" is NOVIS in Latin, but also NEU in German, NOU in Romanian etc. Therefore the English word NEW has company in just about all European languages and Old Egyptian as well. Egyptian language was one and the same with the language was spoken by the White Race before and after the Great Flood which took place 12000 years ago. No doubt NEW, NOVIS, NEU, NOU is an extremely old word and I am sure it evolved from the word LUNA (moon) which was originally called O-NA. The moon (LUNA) RE-NEWED itself every 28 days. It is called LUNA NOUA (new moon) In Romanian every time the moon appears again. Therefore the word RE-NEWED which is RE-INOIT in Romanian RE-NOVATIO in Latin is a very old word which RE-FRERED to LUNA (the moon) RE-newing itself. Believe me Romanian language didn't get the word REINOIT from the English RENEWED even tough they are pronounced the same.
@zvidanyatvetski8081
@zvidanyatvetski8081 7 жыл бұрын
As a native swedish speaker, it is always astounding how much one can understand from old english! I could understand at least 50% of the words in the examples, I wonder if german/danish/dutch speakers experience the same? Great video, keep them coming! :D
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, it's kind of amazing how similar those Germanic languages are -- old and modern.
@juliusuflacker4339
@juliusuflacker4339 7 жыл бұрын
As a German so could I. But it`s astonishing how much danish and dutch i`m actually able to understand due to there similarity to german. I wish you a good day my fellow Germanic brother. :)
@Bjowolf2
@Bjowolf2 7 жыл бұрын
Ja, vi haver så [so] man{g}e simple _ord_ lige / S lik de Engelske, så alle Engelsk- tal(k)ende person-er kan se hvad deres mening er [air, = are ] efter just få [ fo, = few ] sekund-er. {V}or grammatik i(n) Skandinavien er nær den Engelske, så vi kan ofte tal(k)e Engelsk uden/ S utan (with-out; OE beutan !) at t(h)ænke, for vi haver på [po] (uPOn, on, (in) ) magisk vis allerede (!) det meste af {d}et i(n) {v}ore hoved-er / S huvud-er (heads; OE hufud!) fra dag [ day(gh) ! ] en, så vi føl-er (feel) os [us] hjemme [ yem-me] / S hemma ( at home ) 😉
@barbaralatham5107
@barbaralatham5107 7 жыл бұрын
Gustaf Skitidedu That's about as much as I can understand and I'm a native English speaker.
@mirceagogoncea
@mirceagogoncea 7 жыл бұрын
Bjowolf2: This comment wins the internet.
@tomashize
@tomashize 7 жыл бұрын
Oh that's His Holiness the Pope. He likes to hang out in the slave market and make puns.
@eddiecaplan1908
@eddiecaplan1908 6 жыл бұрын
Pagan Pilgrim years ago, the vatican recieved many complaints harrassment of a pop group called ^BOYZ2MEN^, catholic priests thought it was a takeaway......🤣
@patchesohoolihan666
@patchesohoolihan666 6 жыл бұрын
The puns of the pedo pope
@stephenlitten1789
@stephenlitten1789 5 жыл бұрын
@birdman33369 Rome in the 6th C was the equivalent of Wigan - going to the slave markets WAS the entertainment
@douglasphillips5870
@douglasphillips5870 5 жыл бұрын
He cornered the market on Angle puns.
@mcmasti
@mcmasti 7 жыл бұрын
I like "fisc". I guess "chips" had to wait for Columbus!
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, the potato is coming soon...
@MrGoocherson
@MrGoocherson 5 жыл бұрын
In Irish Fish is Iasc. Fisc, Iasc... 🤔
@JazzPikmin
@JazzPikmin 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrGoochersonDarkHair the Irish borrowed a lot of words from Latin "piasc" is fish in Latin. the Irish dropped the "p" and the Angles softened it to an "f"
@MrGoocherson
@MrGoocherson 5 жыл бұрын
@@JazzPikmin nice. The old Irish was pronounced "un" and a bird was pronounced "an". It's interesting how some words were completely replaced. Like a horse, modern: "cappal" was originally an "ech", so ot probably equates to "eqine", but in our old manuscripts it says that Gaelic, Latin and Greek had a common mother tounge. Im just happy i found this channel randomly.
@dirtyyy7668
@dirtyyy7668 5 жыл бұрын
@@JazzPikmin Iasc doesn't come from Latin but from Proto-Celtic *ɸēskos which itself comes from Proto-Indo-European root *pisḱ- which also gave rise to Latin piscis and English fish. Therefore iasc, fish and piscis are cousins
@glifosfato
@glifosfato 7 жыл бұрын
þis might be my favorite video of yours so far. Keep 'em coming!
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
þanks! ;)
@korakys
@korakys 7 жыл бұрын
The best one since _Rune_ is my assessment.
@iFX5955
@iFX5955 7 жыл бұрын
ᚺᛗ ᚾᛖᚫᛏ
@nozrep
@nozrep 7 жыл бұрын
Steve Fairinton oh wow how were u able to get runes on a comment? very cool, although, i can't read them
@JavainMuert
@JavainMuert 7 жыл бұрын
Unicode
@JamesCook-tj2fq
@JamesCook-tj2fq 5 жыл бұрын
The first English phrase was "Those damm Frenchmen"
@PiousMoltar
@PiousMoltar 5 жыл бұрын
Nah. Probably something about the Scots or Welsh. Well, almost certainly the Welsh. Btw, "Welsh" just comes from the Anglo-Saxon word for "foreigner", which seems a bit rich considering they're the ones that came from northern Germany and Denmark (I say "they", but I'm from East Anglia, the old kingdom of the Angles, I'm probably one of them). They referred to all Britons as "Welsh". And they drove them west, until the only "Welsh" left were in Cumbria, Cornwall and Wales. Maybe even some Picts up in Scotland but that didn't last. Scotland became half Irish (leading to Scots Gaelic) and half Anglo-Saxon (leading to the Scots dialect / language). Maps of Britain for this period show what we know as Wales labelled "North Wales" and Cornwall as "South Wales".
@PiousMoltar
@PiousMoltar 5 жыл бұрын
Oh and the Vikings complicated matters. Their Old Norse being quite closely related to Old English allowed for relatively easy communication and the adoption of many loan-words in the areas they ruled, which over time, included much of the coast of Scotland, Ireland and Wales, and eventually the whole of the North and East of England, and some of the midlands too.
@aidanthekid1720
@aidanthekid1720 5 жыл бұрын
+PiousMoltar nerd
@ronjayrose9706
@ronjayrose9706 5 жыл бұрын
@@PiousMoltar don't forget the Bretons
@enzogamerukbr
@enzogamerukbr 4 жыл бұрын
Kæ̅ⱨusⱪ ag øđiƨk?
@Cobradabest
@Cobradabest 7 жыл бұрын
I'm voting for "this", because it's unchanged from it's modern equivalent, just spelt using Old English letters/sounds. The others are unrecognizable in comparison.
@martinmortyry7444
@martinmortyry7444 6 жыл бұрын
Cobradabest I dunno, fisc has a pretty similar pronunciation to fish, but the last sound is much more palatal. "This" hasn't changed at all, though.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 5 жыл бұрын
Interestingly the modern german equivalent to "this", which closest form is "dies" is still quite similar. Same goes for fish btw, it's pronounced basically the same, only written slightly different: "Fisch"
@rnhtube
@rnhtube 7 жыл бұрын
I'm going to go with þis or fisc, since they are still in use today. þis still sounds the same and you can almost say it is still spelled the same.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, that's pretty logical...
@CraftQueenJr
@CraftQueenJr 5 жыл бұрын
How do you get the extra letter?
@cherryberry7024
@cherryberry7024 5 жыл бұрын
kaka is understood in most lanagues !to defacte faeces!.
@chrismain7472
@chrismain7472 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with Russell. The word "this" outlived the death of one of its letters. That's some staying power.
@davidlewis1787
@davidlewis1787 5 жыл бұрын
Bis is still said in the Bristol area exactly as said here. Written this but often said bis
@dg-hughes
@dg-hughes 5 жыл бұрын
I'd say Anglii since people would refer to themselves, their language they spoke, their culture as what they are. And I like that knowing the exact tiny region and etymology of hook or Angeln it's so specific. It has a bit of wistfulness as if that's where you're grandparents or great-grandparents were born.
@elainekruger-haye3463
@elainekruger-haye3463 5 жыл бұрын
Most people referred to themselves as "people" - Manne, Tiutsche, aBantu in Africa, etc. Others were "not people" or "not one of us" . My tribe, the Wends, were never referred to as anything but other. I see in English they are also called Sorbs. Of course they mixed with all tribes, as everyone did. My grandmother still knew some remnants of the old tongue, but German was our language and then English in Africa
@Fhuj
@Fhuj 7 жыл бұрын
I'd go with fisc, only because it would be funny for the word "fish" to be that significant.
@Milark
@Milark 5 жыл бұрын
I was shocked when I heard the angle part. “Angel” also means something along the lines of hook in Dutch. Interesting stuff
@jamm6_514
@jamm6_514 5 жыл бұрын
"holy father jokes are worse than dad jokes" but they are dad jokes
@christopherlawley1842
@christopherlawley1842 4 жыл бұрын
Holy dad jokes, dadman!
@Tobberz
@Tobberz 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant pronunciation overall, a nice surprise. But typically the letter y is held to be pronounced more like a ü in germanic languages.
@fkovacs1
@fkovacs1 5 жыл бұрын
I would assume it would be identifiers, such as " I", "you", " we", "they", etc. Kind of hard to create a whole language if you don't have anything to identify immediate self and others with.
@jurikurthambarskjelfir3533
@jurikurthambarskjelfir3533 3 жыл бұрын
Ic, þū, ƿē, þair.
@edoboss101
@edoboss101 7 жыл бұрын
I think that "cyulis" is the one since "dis", "fisc" and "raihan" are Germanic words that are still present and quite same-pronounced in languages such as German while "gaegogae" has no Modern English related word and may be more of a chant or onomathopeia rather than a real word itself
@jonhanson8925
@jonhanson8925 7 жыл бұрын
I like your reasoning, but what Modern English word comes from "cyulis"?
@edoboss101
@edoboss101 7 жыл бұрын
Jon Hanson You are right...I found no word in ME related to that, thus maybe "Englisc" might be the very first English word. However, I think that we should define better the line between "Germanic" and "Old English" to have a good answer, right?
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, there is a modern (if old-fashioned) English word 'keel' -- not the one that refers to the ridge on the bottom of the boat, surprisingly (which is from an Old Norse word), but one that means, in fact, 'ship' or 'longboat', that is *cognate* with cyulis but doesn't come directly from it, instead having been re-borrowed (maybe around the 15th century) from Dutch. Though, in the meantime, the Dutch (and German) words 'kiel' have changed their meaning from 'boat' to 'keel', probably under the influence of Scandinavian and/or English languages. Which is rather remarkably complicated!
@jaxvoice718
@jaxvoice718 6 жыл бұрын
Shipping may have been a crucial technology and activity for the early Germanic tribes, the Viking raids half a millennium later may just have been a continuation of perpetual sea-borne raiding and trading shaping England and Britain. Even the whole "Britain rules the waves" spiel may be seen as a further continuation, so I kind of like "ceol" for that reason (mind you, i could take a fisc too). I wonder if poetic expressions, kennings-like, could explain the tangled history of ceol. After all, from what I gather, the Anglo-Saxon dialects had the perfectly serviceable words "ship" and "boat" in their vocabulary back in those days too, so ceol might denote something special, like for instance "dreadnought" at a later age.
@inregionecaecorum
@inregionecaecorum 6 жыл бұрын
Oh really? ask Lady Gaga.
@troelspeterroland6998
@troelspeterroland6998 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Alliterative. I'm a Danish subscriber to your blog. I've heard a somewhat different etymology for the peninsula of Angeln/Angel that seems to be prevalent among scholars here. Maybe It will interest you. It is assumed that it was originally a name for the inlet between Angeln/Angel and Schwansen/Svans which links the town of Schleswig/Slesvig (and earlier, Haithabu/Hedeby) with the Baltic. In historical times its name has been Schlei/Slien. It seems to be a common process in toponymy that names of inlets are transferred to the surrounding stretches of land (so there are precedents for it), and it is assumed that it is also the case here because the ang- root can also mean "crooked" or "narrow" (cf. German eng meaning "narrow") which fits well with the Schlei/Slien inlet. The reason why I write the place names in both German and Danish is that the area used to be Danish-speaking. The Jutes and the Angles merged with other tribes to form the Danes. Much later, in the early 19th century, the language shifted to German and after a couple of wars and a referendum the area is in Germany today. However, as a bit of a toponymist myself I prefer the original names where the etymology is clearer. It's not a case of irredentism in my case - in fact, part of my family belonged to the German minority just north of the present border. A great uncle of mine even emigrated from there to Canada so he avoided serving in the Danish military - which causes me to have relatives in Manitoba today. His brother was even a toponymist and wrote an interesting dissertation about the language shift.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this detailed explanation -- from my reading, most English scholars seem to prefer the fish-hook etymology, but I've certainly read the 'narrows' derivation, and it does seem plausible as well; I'm not really equipped to judge between the two, in the end, but I appreciate you laying out the details of the argument, to add to the discussion.
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't find this fish hook idea very attractive but perhaps I am over skeptical in thinking a lack of aerial photography and accurate maps makes the angeln link dubious. What coast doesn't have lots of bends? On the other hand a tribe-name could develop from a group of mobile coastal fishermen so perhaps word over-loading allows multiple meanings giving lasting appeal.
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 5 жыл бұрын
Did N. tribes push the language border south in a later age? Because it appears that middle English preferred words with. cognates in Old Norsk and the West Germanic coastal languages which like having the main verb last. Studying Norwegian it seems closer to English than High-German against identity tribe focussed explanation expectations.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 5 жыл бұрын
I always picture the north sea cost like an arm: above Denmark would be the shoulder and the hand would sit at the channel. So the area would be basically inside the "angle" of the elbow.
@will2Collett
@will2Collett 6 жыл бұрын
I've read BEOWULF in the original older English and i've looked around and I think the word that looks like "ph" tha has to be one of the older words. Beowulf, is a creepy read in any language. Isn't it interesting how Pennywise has a similar background to Grendel??? just some thoughts.
@xdgamer2765
@xdgamer2765 5 жыл бұрын
fun fact: ice landic used the old english language text check google translate and set the right box of the translator and make it icelandic and then make the left box english, type in anything and you will find old english.
@rockydo2307
@rockydo2307 7 жыл бұрын
1:10 This may seem a bit weird but Kent is actually an area where Jutes settled rather than Angles and Saxons but I know what you mean.
@arcanics1971
@arcanics1971 6 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, in Lancashire the word "cuwel" or "cowell" survived into the 20th century and referred to a boat. Usually this would be a large boat but not a ship. I only know of it being used by a few old people of my grandfather's generation (born in the 1880s) in Lancaster, Lancashire. Whether or not it truly was a survivor from Anglo Saxon times or a more recently coined localised word I cannot say.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 6 жыл бұрын
That's very interesting, thanks! I don't know that word, so I'm not sure of its lineage, either.
@ginnyjollykidd
@ginnyjollykidd 6 жыл бұрын
I vote for Anglii. It is a description of the people and its the root for words that have to do with not only origins but culture as well (ankle bones game). And the Romans occupied the future British Isles for a long time and were very good at record keeping. They described the tribes around them. It might not be the best reasoning, but trying to find the first English word is like trying to figure out where Homo erectus gave way to Homo habilis and then Homo sapiens, then subspecies Homo sapiens sapiens. Do you start with genius Homo? Or do you make sure you get them all and say Australopithicine species were first?
@jadereynolds1204
@jadereynolds1204 6 жыл бұрын
Im so happy that puns are baked into english from its inception lol
@jasoncollins5949
@jasoncollins5949 6 жыл бұрын
þis (or this as it's now written) is actually a word we use today as opposed to a root word so that would get my vote if it really was copied from the original text. Failing that i would suppose it was fish/'fisc'.
@nigeh5326
@nigeh5326 2 жыл бұрын
I live in the Black Country area west of Birmingham in England. The broadest form of my local dialect as spoken in areas such as Tipton by older people still contains Germanic (Anglo Saxon) words from way back and some experts think it’s one of the oldest surviving dialects.
@gvuolde
@gvuolde 7 жыл бұрын
I would have to vote Anglii. Great video. Plus I always find it interesting to hear the Old and Middle English spoken and translated like you did.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I love getting the chance to read Old English.
@silkwesir1444
@silkwesir1444 6 жыл бұрын
1:32 "so then, is the earliest word 'this'?" found this very interesting, though it's not really the point of the video, because it's about the first _English_ word. However, i do think there's reason to believe, that the first word _ever_ was something like "this" or rather "that" (those two words not being differentiated yet). heck, maybe that proto-word even included "there". ("Over there! That thing!")
@leornendeealdenglisc
@leornendeealdenglisc 7 жыл бұрын
Hard to vote really. I would say that Anglii might be a good guess, I always had thought of it as a Latin word.
@VerbaleMondo
@VerbaleMondo 7 жыл бұрын
Hallo, I love your channel.
@burbanpoison2494
@burbanpoison2494 6 жыл бұрын
Also a proper noun. In that case, Gilgamesh is the oldest English word.
@peterforden5917
@peterforden5917 7 жыл бұрын
cyulis as it is I think related to the word KEEL still in use today but originally a type of ship.
@petelucas51
@petelucas51 7 жыл бұрын
It has been said English goes back to the Roman period. Yes the Angles Saxons and Jutes came to England but there was a Celtic tribe in Southern England roughly what later became Wessex called the Belgae, possibly form the near continent which could mean they spoke a similar tongue to the later Angles Saxons and Jutes thus the tongues merged seamlessly. Place names ending in Ey is a Germanic suffix meaning Island/s |THet were islands but ceased to be so before the Anglo Saxon influx. English is much older than thought
@patrickjoseph6253
@patrickjoseph6253 6 жыл бұрын
+Alliterative The problem that you fail to acknowledge is that when the Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Frisians came to the British Isles, they were speaking West Germanic, so what does this mean? Surely whatever words survived from West Germanic into the modern English are the earliest English words?
@cottonmather5883
@cottonmather5883 7 жыл бұрын
In a twist of irony it seems to be Anglii. It's cool how ankle, angler and Angle are related, and perhaps Fisc may be right up there, both related to the sea.
@moritzm6470
@moritzm6470 5 жыл бұрын
Runic writing sometimes drops nasals so could 'gaegogae' not simply stand for later 'gegonge'? That is a subjunctive present form of 'gegán' ~ 'gegangan', so it would mean "may (the) reward (or mead!) come upon the kinsman" or the like. That at least strikes me as more plausible than wolf howling or weird magic incantations...
@FirefoxisredExplorerisblueGoog
@FirefoxisredExplorerisblueGoog 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sure breaking bread with Pope Gregory must've been a hoot.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
A laugh a minute. Really.
@GoodWoIf
@GoodWoIf 7 жыл бұрын
I reckon it might be Cyule/ceolum. It was a word the people were evidently using as noticed by an outsider. Seems appropriate if Angl does pertain to fishing.
@therealzilch
@therealzilch 6 жыл бұрын
I've heard that "land" is the earliest English word that's still spelled the same as in Modern English (at least in some manuscripts).
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry everyone, we got our wires crossed a bit and put this out before our collab with Jabzy was ready--so the link to the 3-minute history episode about the Anglo-Saxon Invasion will be going up soon.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Ok, here it is: The Anglo-Saxon Invasion in (a little more than) 3 minutes! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXykpISOpbd7q80
@syntaxerror8955
@syntaxerror8955 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a nice video. As interesting as this is, to look for "the earliest English word" is silly beyond sense. Surely, you must know that as a linguist. Language development is always a gradual process. So "fisc" is Old English, huh? OK. It's spelled "fisk" in modern Swedish, Danish, and Norwegian, and "fisch" in modern, standard (high) Geman. "Fisc" is simply Germanic, although maybe with this spelling, on that artifact, in that specific year or decade classified as Old English. The point is that there is no such thing as "the first English word" any more than there is a "first day" someone become "middle aged", although one can DEFINE a specific day in the calendar. Cheers.
@mrcastillo4240
@mrcastillo4240 6 жыл бұрын
Alliterative i will say the Earliest English word is the word "þis " from aethelbert's laws
@einarkristjansson6812
@einarkristjansson6812 6 ай бұрын
They say that English is a west Germanic language. I am an Icelander and many English words to day resonate with my language, like ''hús'' meaning ''house'', ''berserk'' in Icelandic ''berserkur'' and so on. So we are related. I am told that two thirds of the vocabulary of English to day is old Anglo-Saxon. I had no difficulty learning English at school.
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 7 жыл бұрын
The oldest English word must be in a language that is distinctly English and not some dialect of a more widely spoken tongue. The migration period inscriptions and others are just too early so I'll go with the Franks' casket. If we choose the front panel as our text then rather than the first word, fisc, I suggest we pick the answer because to devise a riddle one must start with the solution, so the earliest known word in English is hrones, whale's.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
That's pretty well argued... that question of when English coalesces into its own language is definitely part of the complexity of the issue, because the details of that invasion period are so hard to pin down.
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 7 жыл бұрын
Alliterative IIRC even as late as the eighth century Boniface and other English missionaries found other Germanic tongues sufficiently easy to speak that they could preach in them across Northern Europe.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's a good point. The question of what counts as dialect and what as language is always contentious; even today, Frisian speakers could probably manage a speech in English pretty easily, though we count it as a different language.
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 7 жыл бұрын
Hitler And Hot Pockets That depends on the skills of the blacksmith involved. What I'd really like is an authentic reproduction of early Anglo-Saxon sword blade, more practically I'd like an exotic steel puuko.
@EyeDreamMellowDees
@EyeDreamMellowDees 5 жыл бұрын
more interesting: a. oldest surviving word still used b. oldest surviving word still commonly used
@jenniferm8949
@jenniferm8949 5 жыл бұрын
I heard on an old BBC documentary that one of the oldest English words still surviving today is the word crag.
@Novusod
@Novusod 5 жыл бұрын
Metu from the 5th century medallion is the modern day "Mete" www.thefreedictionary.com/mete+out A word still in common use.
@Tony-Blake
@Tony-Blake 7 жыл бұрын
Anglii. Different topic --- gægogæ sounds like baby babble. If it means 'newborn', 'infant', or 'man's offspring', that would fit 'kinsmen reward', the images of suckling, and (given the mood of the times) weaponry.
@theshamanite
@theshamanite 5 жыл бұрын
"This" or "fish" seems more likely to be the first words of English.
@MessiahComing
@MessiahComing 7 жыл бұрын
I think it's kind of difficult to say exactly when English formed as a language in its own right, because so many languages trace back to the same proto-languages. Many of them even loop back into itself. There are words that the Proto-Indo-Europeans used that are still used in the majority of modern Indian and European languages. Hell, we even worship the same gods, whether people accept that or not.
@aqdrobert
@aqdrobert 5 жыл бұрын
This study of early English made me go gaga.
@ElicBehexan
@ElicBehexan 6 жыл бұрын
I like "fisc" since it is recognizable still today. Granted they meant "whale" rather than "fish" but back in those days anything that swam full time in the ocean was probably considered a "fish" anyway.
@thecognacsipper
@thecognacsipper 7 жыл бұрын
man you're so good.. don't fall in youtube's fast-paced trap please...too good to rush
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Trust me, I'm already going as fast as I can! So not much risk of that. And thanks!
@futurehuge
@futurehuge 7 жыл бұрын
This video was incredible! The ending where it all comes together was brilliant. I love etymology but this was next-level stuff
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
@grumpyoldfart4167
@grumpyoldfart4167 7 жыл бұрын
I love this! I used to listen to John Ciardi on NPR, "Good words to You."
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, I didn't know that one -- didn't air in Canada -- but I've just looked it up and it sounds great! And thanks!
@wariodude128
@wariodude128 5 жыл бұрын
Well, considering that English has its origins as a Germanic language, technically speaking the earliest German word would also count as the earliest English word. So whatever the oldest surviving German text we have, the first word on it could be considered to also be the earliest English word. Either that or the first word in that text which most resembles a modern day English word. Hey, @Alliterative, ever thought of that? Would be fascinating to see how far down that rabbit hole goes.
@ronjohnson4566
@ronjohnson4566 7 жыл бұрын
first word, in english? "alliterative" definitely.
@for2zero773
@for2zero773 6 жыл бұрын
I used to speak old English like you but then I took an arrow to the knee.
@unstoppableboy9859
@unstoppableboy9859 3 жыл бұрын
*butan thonne Ic tace an arrowe se kneeowe
@smittoria
@smittoria 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact, in Dutch the word 'angel' means the stinger of a wasp or similar insect
@davidstout6051
@davidstout6051 Жыл бұрын
I’d be inclined to go with Anglii or the word for longship. They are clearly the oldest written words and the fact they are found in Latin writings does not affect their status as being Anglo Saxon words anymore than my saying “Good luck, amigo,” would make “amigo” less Spanish.
@marxnutz
@marxnutz 6 жыл бұрын
By your own admission, I think 'angle' is the frontrunner, and could also be called the oldest surviving English word.
@tsuxi11
@tsuxi11 5 жыл бұрын
Lady Gægogæ was in a bad romance.
@theanonymousmrgrape5911
@theanonymousmrgrape5911 5 жыл бұрын
If you believe in Ruhlen’s reconstruction of proto-Human, and by extension the Eurasiatic hypothesis then the earliest native English word still in use would likely be “who” which comes from the proto-Germanic hwaz from the proto indo-European root k^w, which according to the Nostratic hypothesis comes from the proto-Nostratic k’o (q’o), which according to Ruhlen’s idea comes from the ancestor of all world languages as “ku” at all stages either meaning “who” or another “wh” question. Taking this hypothesis “who” is probably the earliest word in English which has maintained relatively the same meaning with relatively the same sounds. Under that same hypothesis you could consider words in English based on the latin root aqua- such as aquatic or aquarium to be equally old, but those words are borrowed into English from another language so I wouldn’t necessarily count them.
@3seven5seven1nine9
@3seven5seven1nine9 6 жыл бұрын
Indo European always blows my mind. I need more videos about itttt
@Bjowolf2
@Bjowolf2 5 жыл бұрын
Try this little hilarious three part intro video on KZbin called "Verner's Law" - and learn a lot while giggling 😁 kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5LPaomJhdCZa9U
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 5 жыл бұрын
Much of the words are related to animals or food usually. That stuff stayed much the same over the last few thousand years.
@nickc3657
@nickc3657 7 жыл бұрын
Anglii, for sure
@pr9039
@pr9039 7 жыл бұрын
It's tough, since Gaegogae would make sense, since the original words of the language would be long lost in meaning by now, so the one that is indecipherable would have the greatest chance of being the eldest. Then again, "Raihan," Germanic or not, would likely be the first regionally-accepted word to become common English language of the time. Tough!
@roberthofmann8403
@roberthofmann8403 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you've heard this before but I love your pronunciation.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks-more often I hear about things I’ve mispronounced, actually!
@ericmgarrison
@ericmgarrison 5 жыл бұрын
Gægogæ reminds me of the last three syllables in the Welsh towne of Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, though I doubt it means “red cave” like in the city’s name...yet it gave me a flashback to it.
@DubArchaeologist
@DubArchaeologist 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i thought that as well.
@Liutgard
@Liutgard 5 жыл бұрын
I loved this video! I took a year of OE with Jim Earl some errands twenty-odd years ago, and was pleased to see how much I remember! And I vote for 'cyulis'. I do have a question though- I'm currently working on the Carolingians, and I'm tearing my hair out, looking for sources to study Old Frankish. Do you have any adeas/suggestions?
@1stAmbientGrl
@1stAmbientGrl 7 жыл бұрын
Such a cool channel! I'm going with Anglii.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@davidguy209
@davidguy209 7 жыл бұрын
fascinating. instant subscription. hello from Scarborough, England :-D
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! *waves*
@witri9
@witri9 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing. By the time we get to the Canterbury tales, the language becomes so recognizable. Great video thanks. And I’ll pick Anglii
@Foggen
@Foggen 7 жыл бұрын
I'm unmoved by the notion of the "first" word on the oldest inscription, because that is in no way suggestive of the earliest origin for the word. Anglii at least seems to have a shot, but frankly drawing hard lines between languages seems like an impossible task.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Very true, any line between one language and the next, especially along a chronological development, is going to be arbitrary and unsatisfying. Posing the question is more interesting than answering it definitively.
@binkbonkbones3402
@binkbonkbones3402 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps the meed fact could be a remnant of paying people in their weekly beer and grain, and still reference both mead and reward/pay/compensation?
@laquaylaquay
@laquaylaquay 5 жыл бұрын
Truly amazing! Just loving your vídeos, man!
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@Inseut
@Inseut 6 жыл бұрын
8:24 - 9:30 CRAZIEST INSIGHT I'VE EVER HAD WHILE BINGE-WATCHING LINGUISTICS VIDEOS ON KZbin. I'M AMAZED. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
@TheCamCam2265
@TheCamCam2265 7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, very relaxing.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@asparadog
@asparadog 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe gægoæ was someone's name? Like George... It is and maybe was normal to put names on things that are yours...
@gimli1908
@gimli1908 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so fun and interesting! I'm glad I found your channel and I can't wait for the next one! Oh, and I think "cyulis" is the first English word, see Edoboss101's explanation, it seems pretty credible
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And noted. [compiling data]
@iainb1577
@iainb1577 5 жыл бұрын
Gaegogae sounds like over time could have developed to geegaw which would fit, but I know no background to the word.
@raymartin7172
@raymartin7172 5 жыл бұрын
I'd go with Ceol. I believe Irish monks wrote the word down very early. More to the point, I live in Northumbria, and we have a tradition of keel boats and and keel men. Going back to time immemorial. We are situated next to the Danish peninsula, too. The Geordie dialect, is also probably the oldest English dialect, very close to some Fresian and Danish.
@troyreed5527
@troyreed5527 6 жыл бұрын
Subscribed in the first 30 seconds. Love this channel.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@troyreed5527
@troyreed5527 6 жыл бұрын
You can’t have 6 with 5 😊. Thank you it was exactly what I needed today.
@tommyvictorbuch6960
@tommyvictorbuch6960 6 жыл бұрын
As a Dane, I was a little surprised to see the letter "Æ" in this context. Much older than I expected it to be.
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 5 жыл бұрын
To type Old English an Icelandic keyboard hjelps 😉
@SandmanStoriesPresents
@SandmanStoriesPresents 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is impossible to know, but fascinating to talk about
@inregionecaecorum
@inregionecaecorum 6 жыл бұрын
Deeze sin' (glo'l stop there) dare oiligen zayn geboat innit. German as spoken with a Coventry accent, (which is almost as bad as Edward Heath speaking French, marche commun and all that) What I have noted over a long time is that there is more variance in the way that words are pronounced within a language than between them
@MissRazna
@MissRazna 6 жыл бұрын
That map on your wall is SO COOL. Where do I get one like that????
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Sadly I bought it (mumble mumble) years ago in a medieval museum gift shop, so I don't know where you'd find one now...
@tomhchappell
@tomhchappell 5 жыл бұрын
Town, according to OED, is the oldest English word still in use in Modern English.
@obake6290
@obake6290 6 жыл бұрын
On the "gaegogae maegae medu" artifact, the first thing that struck me is that "medu" looks a lot like "medal." As in, gold/silver/bronze medals to reward outstanding performance in competitions. Maybe that's just a coincidence, I don't know.
@dr.leftfield9566
@dr.leftfield9566 4 жыл бұрын
umm. Interesting. The first written primitive english word. For me the predominant germanic language would have been known in Britain before the age of migration as it would of aided trade and family connections etc. Or to simplify Vortigern could of spoken to his mercenaries without the need of a translator. There could be a celtic and germanic word hidden in latin somewhere but i'm not comfortable with that. So this word has to be found after runes but before Gildas. So pick the earliest artifact after 150AD but before the dust-up at Mount Badon and i think we are at the closest possibility.
@johnhodge4996
@johnhodge4996 6 жыл бұрын
I would say Anglii, although I'm not sure how much the term would deviate from how it would be spoken in the native region
@nanniwa
@nanniwa 6 жыл бұрын
I think I'd vote for Anglii, as ankle and angler are still good English words, and it's an earlier reference than "this/pis" (sorry, no thorn available in this font) or "fisc", which is still the same word, albeit with modern spelling. "Gaegogae" obviously means "covfefe."
@Leonardo7772012
@Leonardo7772012 4 жыл бұрын
Dutch: "Dit zijn de wetten die koning At... vastzette in Augustinus dagen" . When the Old English was read, in my ears only "on Augustinus daegge" sounded immediatelly recognizable. Sounds old fashioned biblical dutch, like Luke1: 5 In de dagen van Herodes, den koning van Judea...
@ferociousgumby
@ferociousgumby 5 жыл бұрын
So what was the first word humans uttered, in ANY language? What were the first intelligible sounds they made, and what did they represent? When did this evolve into a primitive form of communication? When did they start to name things/each other (what was the first baby's name?), and how did that evolve into grammar and storytelling? Before that, was there a coherent, sophisticated gestural language with which they communicated, a la Koko the gorilla and her thousand-word vocabulary? Hey, I know no one can go back in time and find out, but I can't even find any theories on this. *_Nothing._* Probably, because scientists have too much ego to say "I DON'T KNOW".
@welshpete12
@welshpete12 7 жыл бұрын
Fascinating , thank you for posting . It would be nice if the oldest word in English , was English , but perhaps asking to much ? :-)
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
It's very tempting, isn't it?!
@jasonjoiner1190
@jasonjoiner1190 5 жыл бұрын
Whatever word mom was way back then. Think about it. Mom is the only word that is nearly identical across languages even outside of PIE and is also one of the first word we learn to say as children. So any variation in how you say mom would have shown up first perhaps? Just my own opinion and probably wrong but I do find it interesting how many languages have basically the same slamg word for mother in mom
@lallyoisin
@lallyoisin 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to note possible evidence of flood and whales getting beeched on mountain. The wolf goddess Morrighan was a fierce goddess worshipped in ancient Ireland and connected to battle, fate and fortelling doom. Morri(gha)n might be linked to 'ga' referenced in video.
@lallyoisin
@lallyoisin 5 жыл бұрын
Besides Graeco-Roman history was outsourced! Certain lands were known for saints and scholars.. That's where I would look for history writers! 😉
@orsonzedd
@orsonzedd 6 жыл бұрын
It was probably something from PIE since language never dies before being born
@jamesmace2300
@jamesmace2300 2 жыл бұрын
I have always loved linguistics and history of cultures.
@JoeBKN
@JoeBKN 7 жыл бұрын
How could there be an English word before the English were named? Or should I say, Anglish? Or, those who played with ankles? So, with confidence, I suggest that earliest word to be, Anglo! :-)
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 5 жыл бұрын
How could you name a separate language if it did not already have its own words creating intelligibility issues? The sentiment puts the cart before the horse, you give names to things that are different. So the name of a language will be a late addition not an early one.
@MISTERASMODEUS
@MISTERASMODEUS 5 жыл бұрын
This is phenomenal. Thank you for making this
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Schizopantheist
@Schizopantheist 6 жыл бұрын
I'm going to go for one not given: 'and' , surely an ancient word and still doing daily duty in an essentially unchanged role in the language at present. And, you're in good shape!
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 6 жыл бұрын
Well, it goes back to the Proto-Germanic *unda, going back in fact to the PIE root "en" which meant and is the root of "in". And in Old English "and" originally meant "therefore, next"; I'm not sure when it took on its present meaning. It can be surprising how comparatively recent some seemingly very basic aspects of the language are!
@craigjovanovich6450
@craigjovanovich6450 7 жыл бұрын
This video was really interesting! Well done, sir!
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jpdj2715
@jpdj2715 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed. I would argue that - per definition - one should call "English", the result of the blending of the languages (likely Germanic dialects with a great level of mutual intelligibility) of the Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Frisians into a language that connects these through a shared vocabulary, idiom and grammar (leaving some space for dialect or regional differences). If you go back as far as in this presentation, that blend has not happened. I see this jumping around between language names in the presentation that is associated with this problem. Then the question is how to define "Anglo-Saxon". And what about those Frisians who's language today and in the past may be the nearest you have to those old Germanic languages/dialects?
@billsmith9711
@billsmith9711 5 жыл бұрын
Hard for me to say but I will say it is Anglii....as it is a word used from the outside to describe the English by a more established language. But honestly I have no idea. The study of language is fascinating.
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