What's Up With Zoro's Haki? | One Piece Theory

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@nimbusreview
@nimbusreview Жыл бұрын
Thank you all for all of the support this video and my channel has got over the past couple of weeks I really appreciate all of your comments and love you’ve shown ❤ But I want to make something clear. This video IS NOT a powerscaling video and I don’t ever claim that Zoro has stronger Haki than Luffy. This video is about how Oda has handled the writing and development of Zoro’s armament and conquerors Haki differently than characters like Luffy. And because of this I had the thought that he did this because of how swordsmen in general develop and interact with Haki. This video is partially a discussion on Oda’s writing with an added theory or just general thought about Haki development from my observation of the story. 😅
@planetmac8586
@planetmac8586 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think zoro was subconsciously blocking his coc or not recognizing his kingly ambitions. I think he was so dedicated to making luffy the king he wasn’t thinking about his own kingly ambitions. The last page of when use it the second time against king and king says “ oh you too have kingly ambitions “ and zoro was stuck at first and then said “ I guess so” which shows he finally accepted it.
@andrew-rn9ui
@andrew-rn9ui Жыл бұрын
Zoro is a man of honor and his word, he put his ambitions aside for luffys dream , I completely agree with you that he was subconsciously suppressing his haki because he was more focused on luffy, But since the time skip and wano, zoro has more so been a force of nature,, he wanted to take kaidos head alongside luffy, he is coming into his own right now and I love it,, I hope oda gives us more zoro lore and power ups,, He's the future pirate kings right hand man, / body guard essentially,, he should be pretty much on par with luffy by end of series imo, minus all the godly fruit powers obviously ,, If the right hand of the pirate king can't hold up in fights against ppl luffy would fight should he even be the right hand man? That's my logic on how strong zoro should be anyways Usually body guards or the right hand man are the stronger ones Even in boxing and UFC , fighters have a big crew of body guards n security that can beat some ass 🤣
@andrew-rn9ui
@andrew-rn9ui Жыл бұрын
I actually really wish that the Kaido fight was a luffy and zoro tag team,, partners since the beginning teaming up to take down the strongest.. luffy could have still got his gear 5th and zoro got conquerors haki, and sanj could have double teamed queen and king... I think it woulda been more impactful had it played out that way
@dariuswilliams7509
@dariuswilliams7509 Жыл бұрын
That panel also leads me to believe why Mihawk also has conquerors being the World strongest swordsman aka King of Swordsman
@elzyofficial9087
@elzyofficial9087 Жыл бұрын
@@andrew-rn9ui that would be sick
@Blaze-hq4ox
@Blaze-hq4ox Жыл бұрын
@@andrew-rn9ui that probably would've been the case if law and kid wasn't there and sanji I can't see double teaming king and queen but I can see a tag team with jimbe
@TheNikobear1
@TheNikobear1 Жыл бұрын
I've always theorized that Zoro's "One Sword Style: Great Dragon Shock" was him unknowingly using conquerors haki. We've seen him knock several people out without even touching them with that move, and when he used it against Monet, it was as if he broke her will to even fight him.
@adicusdeathreaper
@adicusdeathreaper Жыл бұрын
that has nothing to do with Haki and more so with intimidation. Haki is not intimidation.
@TheNikobear1
@TheNikobear1 Жыл бұрын
@adicusdeathreaper That's an interesting point. And I would agree with you, except when Rayleigh is teaching Luffy about haki, he specifically explains conquerors haki as a method of intimidation. As far as I understand it, conquerors haki is essentially the manifestation of your extreme willpower that you can use to dominate people with weaker willpower. And I think it goes well with this video's theory that Zoro has been using his haki through the lens of his swordsmanship.
@adicusdeathreaper
@adicusdeathreaper Жыл бұрын
@@TheNikobear1 That explains that you are using haki to intimidate people, not that intimidation is haki. Conqueror's Haki is the expression of you will power to dominate those of weaker will power yes, but it is also about your charisma. Its like rolling Charisma in DnD and your charisma can make people back down depending on how you express yourself, but intimidation in DnD is different. You can express Intimidation with raw strength, raw ability, OR Charisma.
@TheNikobear1
@TheNikobear1 Жыл бұрын
@adicusdeathreaper I think you're right that haki is essentially your willpower, and it can be used to intimidate people with weaker wills. I don't think Zoro's Great Dragon Shock move is excluded from that. There are plenty of examples of people being too scared to fight certain people in the story, and that makes sense from the intimidation view. But Zoro's move literally makes people pass out in the same manner as haki. But, much like this video describes, Zoro has probably been using haki through his swordplay for a long time before anyone noticed.
@nathanwelling8948
@nathanwelling8948 Жыл бұрын
I still think it was him consciously using it. I believe his confusion when he used it against Kaido was more from the fact that he had used it to do physical damage.
@dsda809
@dsda809 Жыл бұрын
The first time Zoro is mentioned to use Conqueror’s Haki is in the beginning of the Wano arc after he found Luffy. He used the at the tea shop against the Sumo wrestler He mentions something in the lines of “idk what I did? I just looked at him”
@nkc4530
@nkc4530 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I also caught on to this even the sumo guy said that man’s presence intimidated me
@wildwolfi8
@wildwolfi8 Жыл бұрын
Zoro has probably always had conquerors haki in his moves... especially when he slashed Monet and broke her will to fight... Its just really think about how his ambition has evolved... best he can be > better then kuina > best in the world > then it really sinks in that swords have a soul or will that he needs to conquer to be the best. I think that's the turning point... realizing he needs to conquer more then just himself in order to be the best.
@Shark-hn4mv
@Shark-hn4mv Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but we need to emphasize that having it in his moves isn't the same as advanced coating.
@alexgeerts6404
@alexgeerts6404 Жыл бұрын
@@Shark-hn4mv of course think most people would realize luffy doesn’t know advanced coating till wano but op I think has a good line of thinking as we’ve seen with ace you don’t need to be strong in relative terms to use coc just having a will strong enough Zoro has had that but he never felt the need to make someone submit to his will directly but to his sword. He focus his willpower into swordsmenship so he never really used the power tho based on a couple moments he was always give off a bit of it just not the surge that knocks out everyone around you. Up until he gets enma which he needs submit to him. He can’t make his own sword do that with his swordsmanship so he does it with his will directly when he slashs kaido.
@darylvaldes2417
@darylvaldes2417 Жыл бұрын
Zoro conqueror Haki leaves with his swords, his body is focusing too much on muscles 💪
@hippocalypse9152
@hippocalypse9152 Жыл бұрын
I think Zoro finally awakened because he finally realized it was more important to live and conquer for his crew then it was to die protecting them... Until Wano he basically had a death wish, practically died protecting luffy and the others from Kaido, but the battle was just starting and he needed to be alive. He needed to stay alive till the end, or they couldn't win. Thus being forced to accept that the only way to protect his bromantic life partner sanji, luffy, and the rest of his family was to be the absolute embodiment of conquering via sword, instead of the ultimate pointy meat shield he had forced himself to be up till now...
@kpenis17
@kpenis17 Жыл бұрын
i agree with this a lot, i don’t think we’ll see zoro being so close to death again like after mihawk, thriller bark, and after kaido, not even just cuz he’s so strong now but because he won’t have the same reckless abandon as hes had so far
@unwanna1
@unwanna1 Жыл бұрын
The reason it took zoro longer to realize he had conquerors haki is because he didn’t know what his conquerors ambition was (the will to be the king). Luffy and Kid was COC haki because they want to be king of the pirates, law not so much. Zoro fully unlocks his COC haki when he decides to be the King of Hell. Rayleigh even is called the dark king and he was COC haki. Just look at all COC haki users and you’ll notice a trend in their ambition
@confused4069
@confused4069 Жыл бұрын
Big mum's ambitions are diff
@ma_turk
@ma_turk Жыл бұрын
@@confused4069 How? She wants to become king of the pirates as well, said so to Luffy during WCI. Also she rules over Totto Land like a dictator.
@TheBlunder-00.0
@TheBlunder-00.0 Жыл бұрын
@@ma_turk I think he got confused because she also had the ambition to have a bunch of kids
@aba7968
@aba7968 Жыл бұрын
Katakuri and WB didn't have any sort of kingly ambitions and still had conqueror haki. I think there's more to it that we still don't know.
@unwanna1
@unwanna1 Жыл бұрын
@@aba7968 As far as I know since they are both family men, they have the strong ambition to protect their families. Katacuri awakened his haki because his sister got hurt. There are definitely some characters with COC haki that aren’t striving to be a king necessarily but their ambition is strong enough to be considered kingly. And if you look at both WB and Katakuri both of them are looked up to and respected in their families… kinda like a king
@MARSHALLDPREACH
@MARSHALLDPREACH Жыл бұрын
Great video! I’ve had this similar thought for a while too when it comes to this similarities of ryou and that moment at alabasta. -Preach
@nimbusreview
@nimbusreview Жыл бұрын
Thank you I really appreciate it, love your guys content ❤️
@Tobirama_isHimju
@Tobirama_isHimju Жыл бұрын
Zoro always had kingly ambitions. Zoro is used to doing things alone, so he doesn't have anyone around him to teach him. He does things his own way. He's a lot like Zaraki Kenpachi. If Kenpachi received proper training, he'd be unstoppable. Zoro is the same way. Luffy always gets a mentor to help him hone his skills better. Zoro gets to that level in his own way and figures it out without fully understanding it.
@SpencerKerr
@SpencerKerr Жыл бұрын
I can tell you put a ton of effort into this video, man. Good work. A new OP creator in my feed will never be a bad thing 👍
@ajjackson100
@ajjackson100 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, I’m of the belief that while Armament enhances the physical it all mixes with it surroundings, environments, elements and even Devil fruit powers. But Conquerors either pushes something away that the users Will doesn’t want to touch them, but also can pass through an opponent to overwrite the Opponents will making an attack devastating.
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 Жыл бұрын
Well initially kind of seems weird that Luffy had the ability to manifest fire with certain attacks it actually ends up making sense with the revelation of him actually being the user of the hito hito no mi model Nika, god of the sun. As a son is just a giant ball of plasma which is what fire is made of.
@WarriorVeldoren
@WarriorVeldoren Жыл бұрын
Don't want to spoil anime only watchers but Luffy using fire is not a haki ability.
@nathanflowers7364
@nathanflowers7364 Жыл бұрын
You deserve so much more attention this was an excellent video keep it up
@nimbusreview
@nimbusreview Жыл бұрын
Thank you I really appreciate the support ❤️
@D.Strawhat
@D.Strawhat Жыл бұрын
one thing i noticed was zoros ryou was equal to luffys on the roof, because they both made kaido dodge their attacks, even big mom was worried about zoro
@dazel3412
@dazel3412 Жыл бұрын
Luffy advance armament was better because he uses the to the point of internal destruction zoro does not he uses it up to the point of flowing it into hoe sword which is just the first stage ,the reason why big mom told ksido to dodge was because she sense something off about the sword Swords naturally do more damage than blunt force attacks that's why kinemon could cause shallow cut to kaido and luffy couldn't do anything to kaido first round even thou he was way stronger than kinemon and the others at the start of wano
@hush7359
@hush7359 Жыл бұрын
@@dazel3412 while i agree to this I hate when people say kaido only dodged because "he sensed something about the sword" or some shit about "oden's presence" like it feels like it's such a downplay to zoro. Yes, the sword is very special and yes kaido got vietnamese flashbacks but it was all at the end of day from Zoro's haki and attack.
@dazel3412
@dazel3412 Жыл бұрын
@@hush7359 it was big mom who told him to dodge because she sense something off about the sword, yes it was still zoro haki and attack but the major reason why was because of the sword that he was using, I have told people this from the start that Emma is using 100% of zoro haki and not odens
@ceacseeaer
@ceacseeaer Жыл бұрын
this video was so good i started clapping without my hands
@GehrmansWheelchair
@GehrmansWheelchair Жыл бұрын
Ayo?
@nimbusreview
@nimbusreview Жыл бұрын
🤣 my man! Lmao
@peyejon6541
@peyejon6541 Жыл бұрын
If I remember right like how Luffy started accidently using Conquerors Haki in Sabaody, I vaguely remember Zoro using it there too, and maybe it just took him until Wano to fully awaken it
@blacgoat8916
@blacgoat8916 Жыл бұрын
I see Zoro, I watch....good vid
@nimbusreview
@nimbusreview Жыл бұрын
I’m the same way lol zoro can always get me to watch. Thanks for the support ❤️
@lostmarimo
@lostmarimo Жыл бұрын
from my perspective Zoro realized that Enma wanted something else than Armament haki and in that moment he used conquers and the blade was sated.
@HAWK_Eye_sy
@HAWK_Eye_sy Жыл бұрын
I think KING OF HELL was using conqueror haki subconsciously without knowing. Because he use ASHURA in water 7 against Kaku. So i think he was unaware that he is using conqueror. Even before luffy..
@mazinisber4248
@mazinisber4248 Жыл бұрын
Zoro used conqueror's haki shortly after Luffy in Sabondy ark. Luffy's was against Duval's bull while Zoro's against bounty hunters.
@Uchiha_Teivan
@Uchiha_Teivan Жыл бұрын
Yep
@nimbusreview
@nimbusreview Жыл бұрын
I always thought that scene was a hint to it and if that’s the case zoro has a couple other times where he displays an intimidation similar to conquerors Haki
@derrickmiles5240
@derrickmiles5240 Жыл бұрын
I think it doesn't manifest very often because of how Zoro fights. He doesn't really get mad, he just gets more determined during a fight. He really doesn't have outbursts like those of other conquerors users. The only exception being Shanks, who can do it with a mere look. Perhaps when your conquerors haki gets to a certain level you can just do it on a whim like that. Maybe this is a sign that Zoro is approaching Shank's level of conquerors.
@user-dx7ej6cs5t
@user-dx7ej6cs5t Жыл бұрын
He intimidated a group of beast pirates when he first got to onigashima and disguised for the raid
@xianceselassie7239
@xianceselassie7239 Жыл бұрын
You actually see haki for the first time when the straw hats meet the giants of Elbath on that one island
@Purple.mind...Honored.one.
@Purple.mind...Honored.one. Жыл бұрын
4:40 No it's part of Ryio it's just you can't In corporate conquerors until you learn and understand the form of Ryio that's penetrating someone. When I say understand I mean on a spiritual level, This is why it can be done by accident And it's so hard to learn or teach without A life-or-death scenario.
@tylorjones9174
@tylorjones9174 Жыл бұрын
Great vid bro
@saidbachlil4476
@saidbachlil4476 Жыл бұрын
Zoro is haki man like shanks rayleigh roger
@nimbusreview
@nimbusreview Жыл бұрын
I think he’s going to be up there with them at the end of the series, his Haki is going to be crazy
@saidbachlil4476
@saidbachlil4476 Жыл бұрын
@@nimbusreview yah
@dandrinkscoke
@dandrinkscoke Жыл бұрын
I legit had the same thought man, amazing video keep it up!
@zacharyalves8600
@zacharyalves8600 Жыл бұрын
couple things zoro was using regular conq knocking people out in the beginning of wano he didnt immediately go into coating throughout the entire wano arc hes been letting out more and more conq haki throughout the arc in the beginning when hes supposed to kill himself for being the killer and then when the battle starts and hes knocking out kaidos men so he can drink some sake and get directly to kaido and then AFTER he uses ashura against kaido and kaido makes the statement about his haki THEN zoro taps into it more clearly in the king fight being able to coat his swords for a little bit and the only reason he was able to begin coating all of his swords is because enma was training him to do so
@zacharyalves8600
@zacharyalves8600 Жыл бұрын
and i dont think anything was "blocking" his ambition and thats why his haki bloomed later than most other conqs users i think he just genuinely never got tested to the point where it would awaken post time skip everything zoro has been up to since sabaody has been easy for him a walk in the park so when he goes from easily defeating all of his opponents to fighting the strongest man in the world it enables his dormant haki to bloom because as we know haki blooms in tough battles like we've seen w luffy vs kat and luffy vs kaido zoro just never had a battle pushing him to his limits since sabaody hence his haki blooming now lets not forget this has been the most action packed arc for zoro in YEARS
@zacharyalves8600
@zacharyalves8600 Жыл бұрын
for example like you said luffy didnt awaken until marineford and he was fighting ALL of the top tiers at the time at marineford zoro was never in a position like that closest thing was kizaru on sabaody but kuma wiped everyone before a battle with kizaru could even begin
@planetmac8586
@planetmac8586 Жыл бұрын
You can’t use anime filler as canon. In the manga he only use coc during the raid. Anime filler doesn’t count.
@zacharyalves8600
@zacharyalves8600 Жыл бұрын
@@planetmac8586 he used ashura pre time skip (conq haki btw) because he was being pushed to his limit against kaku, after time skip up until his fight with kaido and his fight against king he wasnt pushed at all and as we know from luffys fights and from rayleigh haki blooms in tough battles if he was using his conquerors haki before time skip how would he be suppressing his own abilities? his upgrade this arc wasnt the conquerors haki itself it was just pointed out that ashura is a form of conquerors haki, his upgrade was him learning how to coat it on his swords with help from enma. and ashura was specifically pointed out to be conquerors to show us that conqs has more capabilities aside from just coating than we had originally thought and literally directly after we are shown shanks using his haki in a completely different way from what we've seen before sniping greenbull across the map. if you think that zoro was neglecting his own ambition for that of luffys you severely misunderstand zoros character and his role on the strawhats his ambition is his own he doesnt suppress it for luffy in fact its because of luffy that he pushes himself harder to reach his ambition thats the whole point of his first encounter with mihawk its clearly shown that both luffy and zoro believe that in order for luffy to become pirate king zoro also has to become the greatest swordsman the world has ever seen
@dreamkiller1116
@dreamkiller1116 Жыл бұрын
the part about damaging from the inside has to do with ryou thats what him and the scabbard used to damage kaido but it was too shallow thats why he had to add conq coating into it. if you just use conq coating it it wont have the same effects you have to combing both of them im not sure what you was trying to say but it seemed like you was saying he needed conq coating to damage from the inside which is wrong
@nimbusreview
@nimbusreview Жыл бұрын
I see what you mean and I agree that luffy was using both but right before he figured out how to use conquerors coating he had a flashback to hyougoro telling him about damaging from the inside. So if he was already doing that with ryuo then why would he need to think about that to figure out conquerors coating. Also when he was in the prison hyougoro specifically said that he couldn’t teach luffy the more advanced form that did internal damage, and the only reason I could think he wouldn’t be able to is that he doesn’t have conquerors Haki. But obviously it’s just a theory so I’m okay if it isn’t the case
@dreamkiller1116
@dreamkiller1116 Жыл бұрын
He said what luffy was already doing was more advanced than him and the ryou was already doing internal damage that’s the only way luffy and the scabbard could hurt kaido but even luffys wasn’t deep enough even though it was internal so he remembered what the old man told him and from his knowledge of fighting kaido used conquers bout remembered the guy told him to flow his haki and applied the same thing so he flowed his conq haki with his Roth armament and the combination of both did the job I liked the vid I’m just letting you know it’s the combination of both just using conq wouldn’t get the job done he already had advanced ryou that did internal damage he just took what he learned from kaido and applied what the old man taught him with it
@austinsmith8436
@austinsmith8436 Жыл бұрын
In the anime during the raid before they reach the roof there is a scene that shows zoro intimidating the beast pirates but they all passed out kinda hinting at conquerors then it gets confirmed
@stevekostner5791
@stevekostner5791 Жыл бұрын
He used concertos at the island where his boat was coated to get too fish man island
@redhawk77
@redhawk77 Жыл бұрын
its been explicitly stated that zoro is the most advanced armament haki user with sanji being observation and luffy conqueror so yea this makes sense
@D.Strawhat
@D.Strawhat Жыл бұрын
no it said they have different affinities not most advanced, but u got them right
@dazel3412
@dazel3412 Жыл бұрын
Thats not what oda meant rayleigh explained that persons have a tendency to favor a specific colour of haki and oda explained which haki the three of them are naturally drawn to ,look at luffy he has advance haki in all three
@redhawk77
@redhawk77 Жыл бұрын
@@D.Strawhat your right my bad
@redhawk77
@redhawk77 Жыл бұрын
@@dazel3412 your right you got what I meant tho
@ZorOrdinary
@ZorOrdinary Жыл бұрын
Great video. Ashura is a weird one I cant wait to see how oda explains how it works
@lancerobinson2515
@lancerobinson2515 Жыл бұрын
When he first uses Asura’s aura against Kaku it frightened him like conq haki does competent fighters. Its also funny how he uses the attack against Kaku’s “Sky cutter”
@SoothingMusic883
@SoothingMusic883 4 ай бұрын
great video, i think you called it perfectly
@generalinternet264
@generalinternet264 Жыл бұрын
i think zoro never got conquerers because his mindset was different. pre-timeskip and definitly pre-luffy, he was competing with himself his will only being proven to himself not pushed. he was a big fish in a little pond with imposter syndome. With Luffy, he started to accept himself and his strength, while striving to get stronger not just for himself but for what it meant for his crew, that was the first step. like the difference of working out for the sake of working out vs working out to become more efficent at a task. and again Mihawk was certainly not going to be the kind of person to draw out his counqerers during the time skip, he knew he was stronger, he knew the gap between them, so he never challanged that part of his athaurity, whereas conqerer's is about challenging athaurity which are well above your strength or control. Luffy did in desparation againt something he physically couldnt reach, Ace, against overwealming strength and Doflamingo against unending numbers, at least, to their perception anyway. with Enma, and the fight against the beast pirates, there were wills and strength well above his own at the time, so he had to force them into submission, and hence the conquerer's awakening.
@DarkflameEmperor
@DarkflameEmperor Жыл бұрын
Zoro using Ashura in Enes Lobbey looks cool on paper as his first use of CK, but since he fought King without having to use Ashura but used CK it means he figured out how to use CK recently, but it doesn't rule out Ashura being a CK move.
@blacktootherson
@blacktootherson Жыл бұрын
He did use conquerers to knock a few guys out in the anime before using CoC, not that it matters to your theory at all. Cool theory btw ! I wonder if Mihawk will explain this during their fight
@alexisthompson376
@alexisthompson376 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible that conqueror's Haki is more broad than what we initially were told? Yes, a king would be able to subjugate and overpower people, but you can conquer other things too. What if conqueror's Haki allows you to impose your will on the world/people, and make it work for/with you. Zoro's conqueror's Haki works with him being a swordsman, the whole cutting steel by not cloth thing is a way to show he conquered his use of the blade, that when he cuts, he will only cut what he wants to. His sheer will allows him to do it. Maybe the other strawhats have abilities that their own will makes a reality, abilities they have had since the start that allows them to achieve their dream. One I'm thinking of is Nami's uncanny ability to read the weather, where her will to achieve her dream allows her to sense the weather so she can actually achieve her goal of mapping the world. Another is Chopper, his ability to ALWAYS find a cure for anything, where he is starting to become the panacea of sorts that he wanted to find. Yes, I get it just makes sense in writing that the good guys will save people, but in the story itself, it's still his will to find a cure for everything becoming an almost conquering of diseases.
@thislife7480
@thislife7480 Жыл бұрын
Zoro did knock out ppl with his haki once they arrive in onigashimi he knocked ppl out in the bar
@edgarlazo1883
@edgarlazo1883 Жыл бұрын
What I'd Zoro moved so fast it was causing a afterimage of him turning around so quick, but then thinking about it makes me think if haki diludes feeling dizzy, Zoro is OP
@sahadanazary9364
@sahadanazary9364 Жыл бұрын
Ashura is conqueror's haki. Because he project's his spirit and it manifests in the real world. Kaku was seeing it.
@rupustre
@rupustre Жыл бұрын
good job!!
@TheGeorgegenesis
@TheGeorgegenesis Жыл бұрын
My theory is this, one unlocks their conqueror's haki when they experience great stress that's beyond their current physical level to handle (pending they have the innate potential within them). For Zoro, his never had to face an opponent that pushes him to great stress, why because he was always so good and well skilled. Not until Mr 1 did he start unlocking he's dormant haki abilities and also when the stakes became much more higher, meaning if he loses his friends would die. That's my theory anyways.
@post8103
@post8103 Жыл бұрын
I actually somewhat agree with this but how wasn’t kaido enough but king was to unlock the king of hell mode?
@BalmainBeelzebub
@BalmainBeelzebub Жыл бұрын
W video
@nimbusreview
@nimbusreview Жыл бұрын
Thank you I really appreciate it ❤️
@danielmalillos1761
@danielmalillos1761 Жыл бұрын
i think conqueror’s haki awakens whenever you are in a disadvantage position and the only option for them To protect someone is to give everything they’ve got, So CH awakening.
@siyabongamkhize692
@siyabongamkhize692 Жыл бұрын
In alabasta i thought zoro was hearing the voice of all things
@Brillz4y
@Brillz4y Жыл бұрын
Great vid makes a lot of sense
@matthewsnover8320
@matthewsnover8320 Жыл бұрын
When fighting against Kaido and big mom, that was when he had really met his match throughout the series. I think that was the best moment for him to awaken chc
@MYboomerangsquad
@MYboomerangsquad Жыл бұрын
I think it’s as simple as zoro honor/pride wouldn’t allow him to use anything he didn’t deem as apart of his swordsmanship same reason I believe he doesn’t want a df bc it takes away from his skill as a swordsman like y use ur will to knock 200 pplz down when u can cut 200 pplz down kinda thing, it’s just not his style
@eliaspanayi3465
@eliaspanayi3465 Жыл бұрын
As a swordsman zoro has a different outlook on combat, and how a warrior should act. Zoro is a conqueror because he aspires to reach the pinnacle of swordsmanship and surpass the strongest swordsman through skill and honour, not coating his fists in haki and relentlessly slamming them into his opponent like luffy, kaido or sanji
@KalmoK
@KalmoK Жыл бұрын
Maybe it just takes longer to bloom for some people, and Zoro propably hasn't even realized he has any other than Arnament haki. Now that Luffy has learned how to wield it properly it would be the perfect time for Zoro to start wielding it, but we just have to wait and see what Oda has in mind
@Andyisgodcky
@Andyisgodcky Жыл бұрын
Zoro knocked out people with Conquerers Haki pre-timeskip in sabaody
@Kromoden
@Kromoden Жыл бұрын
in the anime he DID knock people out with his presence before coating, the fodder beast pirates were knocked out by him.
@nimbusreview
@nimbusreview Жыл бұрын
I didn’t want to take that into account as it isn’t canon to the manga, but I would have loved if Oda did include some :(
@Kromoden
@Kromoden Жыл бұрын
@@nimbusreview fair enough, great video btw
@Kromoden
@Kromoden Жыл бұрын
@@nimbusreview But i dont think Toei would add that without Odas approval too.
@momi2221
@momi2221 Жыл бұрын
Maybe asura being a coc haki move would be that his will power makes him seem more Intimidating (having 6 hands and 9 swords) but in reality it's just him with 3 swords, you never know
@talbrill6375
@talbrill6375 Жыл бұрын
Love your ideas, I think you should write a script tho
@pnkwds
@pnkwds Жыл бұрын
I just want to add Luffy can use fire because of his fruit, a zoan mythical fruit. we need to dispel the notion that lufffy's devil fruit is just rubber it's a zoan mythical sun god him being able to use fire in his non awakened state should be possible....(loved the video)
@wagwan7561
@wagwan7561 Жыл бұрын
Luffy uses fire because of armament haki being ignited due to fast attacks
@pnkwds
@pnkwds Жыл бұрын
@@wagwan7561 was that confirmed by oda or just something the community said? It makes way more sense for a mythical fruit to be able to use fire.... also that logic doesn't make that much sense because he used red hawk underwater...
@wagwan7561
@wagwan7561 Жыл бұрын
@PNK WDS it's like Diable Jambe that Sanji use they both use an attack so fast that it turns into fire
@wagwan7561
@wagwan7561 Жыл бұрын
@@pnkwds when he used it underwater it was pretty weak if you compare it to other red hawks
@adrianchriste6
@adrianchriste6 Жыл бұрын
Well, i wont say Zoro never used basic coc. We dont know enough about him in his life to say never used it any point before he met luffy, and if he did he just wasnt aware. Second. Conquerors haki is based on how powerful the user actually is, using it over and over itself wont make it stronger unless you actually train and physically get stronger. Zoro went straight to advanced because he was just that strong already, he did all the training necessary to reach it before. You dont learn to use advanced conquerors, you are born with that potential. Zoro was strong enough for that potential to come out once he realized his his nature as a king. Zoro never used advanced conqeurors on kaido in his ashura attack by the way to add to this, alot of people think he did, but he didnt. Kakdo sensed basic conquerors. Remember, basic conqeuros can be released when attacking, luffy vs chinjao, luffy vs doflamingo, luffy vs katakuri, those were clashing of kings haki they never actualt coated when they attacked, thats what happened with kaido. Kaido says to luffy afterwards in context only the stronger can coat it, he never said that zoro, he just said "you have the color of the supreme king too?" Meaning just the basic version. Zoro clearly got a haki bloom and unlocked his potential even more after that attack getting k.o and getting back up to fight king and another when he encountered that reaper close to death again.
@chronozphere5468
@chronozphere5468 Жыл бұрын
Haki is Will Power.. most of it work in extreme condition... Awaken, learning , Upgrade ... So the best time for training haki is Through extreme battle...like Rayleigh said..
@dreamkiller1116
@dreamkiller1116 3 ай бұрын
luffy used conq b4 marineford but it was just bending animals to his will and I feel they unlocked conq at different moments because theirs different types of conq and we know roger and fluffy are similar and roger ismost dangerous when it comes to a friends or something so it makes sense luffys first conq outburst is saving someone he deeply cares for and doffy id doffy it makes sense his conq awakens when he wanted to kill everything most and zoro is all about conquering himself and all about swords so that moment fits perfectly if sanji has conq it might awaken if he has to save all of fishmen island or nami life is on the line or it seems like nami is dead or maybe he cooks food so good he has a conq outburst
@Ptolemy336VV
@Ptolemy336VV Жыл бұрын
Zoro fans: Anything Zoro DIFFERENT Meanwhile in reality: Luffies haki out of this world nearing Shanks, vastly above any other strawhat Welcome to the world of Zorofans with near lacking comprehension of the one Piece world. Any poll with Zoro is a win for Zoro. Any poll with Rayleigh is a win for Reyleigh. Anything that can make Zoro look even better for the future is going to be propelled as beyond anything. Its hilarious how toxically BS these simpletons are
@nimbusreview
@nimbusreview Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if this claim is about this video but when do I ever put Zoro near or above Luffy in terms of Haki? The only thing I say is that Zoro developed his armament and conquerors Haki in a different way then Luffy and some other characters. THIS IS NOT A POWERSCALING VIDEO. You are the person who took it to powerscaling. Just because someone says that an author clearly didn’t treat one characters growth the same as another characters doesn’t mean they are saying that character is stronger. DIFFERENT =/= STRONGER. You are the one lacking comprehension. So maybe actually watch or listen to what you are going to comment on so you don’t make yourself look like a fool ranting about something that was never brought up in the video. Just to make it clear. This video is entirely about how Oda handled the writing and development of Zoro’s armament and conquerors Haki and why it is DIFFERENT from characters like Luffy, as it clearly has been. Ex: Zoro going straight to conquerors coating instead of knocking people out, Zoro already knowing the concept of ryou before even knowing what Haki is, etc… That is in no way me saying that Zoro is near, as strong as, or stronger than Luffy.
@Victhemighty
@Victhemighty 9 ай бұрын
You sound jealous
@Ptolemy336VV
@Ptolemy336VV 9 ай бұрын
@@Victhemighty O yes. Terribly jealous. And without you telling me I cant exist. Help me o wise one with godly visions of each individual human💀💀💀
@Victhemighty
@Victhemighty 9 ай бұрын
@@Ptolemy336VV i dont know what that means but you cant hide it after crying about luffy when no one even said anything about him. Looks like you were salty about losing some polls too 😂😂
@mattyo6437
@mattyo6437 Жыл бұрын
Only problem with the theory is that oda himself states haki wasnt evented till close to marineford but good video none the less
@clean2.152
@clean2.152 Жыл бұрын
bro this make sense
@nimbusreview
@nimbusreview Жыл бұрын
Thank you I really appreciate it!!
@sovanpattnaik9820
@sovanpattnaik9820 Жыл бұрын
No matter how different it is, he'll never surpass luffy. Period!
@bensylver5113
@bensylver5113 Жыл бұрын
I think his conqueror is pretty weak like Yamato level . He is not a sky spliter . ANd well its obvious since Oda already told us that zoro speciality is armement haki .
@Victhemighty
@Victhemighty Жыл бұрын
How do you know he is not a sky splitter when he never clashed with someome who has adv coc too?
@leonidas231
@leonidas231 Жыл бұрын
i think Zoro doesnt care about conq haki, he just just wants to be the best swordsman but i bet as soon as you tell him mastering his haki will make him a better swordsman he'll master it in a weekend even though hes just focusing on the conq coating without knowing it
@dazel3412
@dazel3412 Жыл бұрын
Good video but you made a mistake luffy used coc coating internal destruction the same way he was using armament Zoro doesn't flow their haki into opponents it just boost his attack power
@unwanna1
@unwanna1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think he missed the panels with luffy saying his attacks weren’t deep enough when he punched kaido. He definitely was using armament haki and was letting it flow inside.
@blacktootherson
@blacktootherson Жыл бұрын
I could totally see this being explained by Mihawk
@jaytpharaoh8411
@jaytpharaoh8411 Жыл бұрын
I think we all knew from day 1 Zoro had Conquers haki. From meeting Luffy when he chose to be captured to nothing happen to cutting the snow lady to becoming a worst generation member as a right hand to EVERY ONE KNOWS STRONGEST SWORDSMEN HAS TO HAVE CONQ. like Croc should have it to
@ife4914
@ife4914 Жыл бұрын
pretty much agree with u except on the point that coc haki is whats needed to hurt people from the inside what luffy figured out at that moment was that normal haki wasnt enough because kaido is just that tough hence why he says "its to shallow" switching to coc fixed that cus it does more dmg not because it lets him attack from the inside cus luffy was already doing this. The proof that luffy was already sending his haki inside object before coc coating is the exploding collar luffy didnt use coc for that yet blew it up from the inside and the tree he practiced on again imploded form the inside and done by luffy with out coc haki and just more proof that u dont need coc yamato was unable to excape her exploding cuffs with out the help of ryou from luffy and she has coc coating so why could she not break the cuffs its because its a sperate technique form coc haki
@shahnulislam9897
@shahnulislam9897 Жыл бұрын
I'm really pissed that zoro didn't get the nidai kitetsu. It's like doing a FFVII run and you already left the chocobo arena to go to the prison and can't get Odin.
@adicusdeathreaper
@adicusdeathreaper Жыл бұрын
1:Zoro didn't use Ryou Haki in Alabasta 2: Zoro used Colors of the supreme king to knock people out subconciously just like Luffy originally did 3: He most likely learned the concept of coating from training with Mihawk.
@one4allall4one19
@one4allall4one19 Жыл бұрын
His haki caused an earthquake it be cool if he got white beards devil fruit power.
@TyRendition
@TyRendition Жыл бұрын
Remember Ryuo and internal destruction are two different techniques. Internal destruction is a step above ryuo which only rayleigh and luffy are confirmed to have (and I speculate sabo too). Zoro only has ryuo which is just haki flowing out of your body into your weapon of choice.
@Raven-om6fx
@Raven-om6fx Жыл бұрын
Ig zoro COC haki came this late because zoro was never pushed to the limit we have heard the quote from rayleigh " haki grows stronger in the heat of battle" after the 2 year time skip I hadn't see zoro struggling at all he was not in the whole cake arc the straw hats were late to reach zou so there was no fight dressrosa arc did managed to use he 3 sword style but he never bled also fishman zoro allmost ended the arc at the start it was a joke tbh in his battle with kaido he had to bring out the big gun he was pushed to his very limit and he also used his 9 sword style which showed he was desperate to save luffy.
@dhruvaveldi
@dhruvaveldi Жыл бұрын
Why can nobody run away from Zoro? Monet was unable to run away from him. Her feet just froze. This has happened a lot of times!
@nkc4530
@nkc4530 Жыл бұрын
Yep I suspected this was conquerors haki she literally could not move
@my.pfp.say.it.all.5u5
@my.pfp.say.it.all.5u5 Жыл бұрын
enma is the reason why zoro was able to unlock and use his conquers haki because he pushed him to his limits without knowing what it is
@dariuswilliams7509
@dariuswilliams7509 Жыл бұрын
Yes enma draws the users ryou out and in the case of Oden and Zoro they were able to "conquer" the blade entirely
@Blaze-hq4ox
@Blaze-hq4ox Жыл бұрын
Tbh zoro barely fought any strong opponents that would make a run for his money till wano against kaido, he basically no diff pika, monet, then didn't get good fights after that
@mrkakarot2424
@mrkakarot2424 Жыл бұрын
Thats cap, Zoro said that “I thought using that much haki would kill me” he always could use that much as he implied but thought he would die from it. Enma just forced Zoro to use it.
@my.pfp.say.it.all.5u5
@my.pfp.say.it.all.5u5 Жыл бұрын
@@mrkakarot2424 will he didn't in sabaody because he COULD NOT🥸 use it until enma dried him up btw he wasn't talking about his conq he meant giving all his haki to enma might kill him
@mrkakarot2424
@mrkakarot2424 Жыл бұрын
@@my.pfp.say.it.all.5u5 why you bringing up sabaody?😭 The straw hats didnt even know haki back then. Enma “drying” up Zoro didnt let him use conquers lmao. Zoro allowing enma to take his haki is what did it. Enma wasnt in control here💀 Zoro was controlling enma for most of the time and even when he didn’t it STILL didnt take his haki to the point of him coating his conquers on his swords, Zoro himself did that.
@1500Blxk
@1500Blxk Жыл бұрын
I feel like he got the green aurora from Mihawk but enma got the haki of Oden (red)
@forget2bhuman993
@forget2bhuman993 Жыл бұрын
i think its as simple as zoro is just too chill unless he's trying to kill you in the moment he isnt emotional like most of the D's and so never had his conquerors haki 'leak out'
@O.Reagano
@O.Reagano Жыл бұрын
162 subs is a scam this is good stuff
@rootsRemi
@rootsRemi Жыл бұрын
Self taught G
@alumi-9241
@alumi-9241 Жыл бұрын
Zoro did infact use conquerors haki on the entertainment floor.. and many other times when his stare made ppl fear and drop like flies
@chessjayz3690
@chessjayz3690 Жыл бұрын
Zoro is literally a demon king!
@Yolaf_
@Yolaf_ Жыл бұрын
I agree until you start talking about Luffy. Pushing haki into someone is party of normal ryuo not just conquerors
@nimbusreview
@nimbusreview Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s what a lot of the people giving me feedback have been telling me. I think I didn’t get across that while I do agree that it is normal Haki, Oda had a few panels and lines of dialogue that made me question if that was really the case. Which is why I included a theory based on me questioning if pushing the Haki in was actually part of ryuo or conquerors. But yeah I really appreciate that you took the time to comment and watch the video ❤️ I hope to see you in future videos 👊🏽
@nade5557
@nade5557 Жыл бұрын
I think zoro used CoC back in sabaody. There was a group of thugs and he intimidated them all with just a look and they let him go on his way
@johnburgos9208
@johnburgos9208 Жыл бұрын
watch anime, zoro was able to use normal coc in wank before kaido fight
@rojielehepburn6065
@rojielehepburn6065 Жыл бұрын
THIS IS NOT THEORY... THIS IS TRUTH!! 😎👍
@DanaRJabbaR
@DanaRJabbaR Жыл бұрын
Is it possible that armament haki be attached to your body permanently like how swords be permanently fused with haki
@GoOutsideGang
@GoOutsideGang Жыл бұрын
So then by this logic, Sogeking coming wit the coc snipes 😭😭😭
@jrocks6969
@jrocks6969 Жыл бұрын
Zoro doesn't have advance observation haki , like Sanji and luffy ... Sanji doesn't have conquers but advance observation and armament
@TheMrMRsmoke
@TheMrMRsmoke Жыл бұрын
Nah it just cause oda doesnt wanna make a new power close to the end and conqueror’s haki is efficient and convenient
@bryant5786
@bryant5786 Жыл бұрын
Zoro doesnt have conquerers coating
@Synsei-
@Synsei- Жыл бұрын
2 piece reader
@dotbarcode.671
@dotbarcode.671 Жыл бұрын
@@Synsei- ikr
@woke3568
@woke3568 Жыл бұрын
i think zoro did use base coc he used it in saboady on some bandits they got scared and ran away and in wano he did the same thing on that big ass sumo guy
@UzumakiNaruto010
@UzumakiNaruto010 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a King's Haki, it was a Demon Haki. 🤔
@siriuslim622
@siriuslim622 Жыл бұрын
after the time skip, oda having hard time portraying zoro and sanji strength, for sanji oda always use women as weakness to weaken him. but zoro different, opponent such as pica cant even hurt him, the whole fight basically hike and seek, once caught pica main body one hit KO. Only until Wano Killer being the first to really hurt zoro
@nkc4530
@nkc4530 Жыл бұрын
Killer didn’t even hurt zoro, zoro hurt himself to get an extra blade. After time skip zoro is leagues above sanji as h sanji struggles in some fights while zoro no diffs everyone till king
@randomgamerg5822
@randomgamerg5822 Жыл бұрын
Maybe that haki is form his new sword
@laithdergham8767
@laithdergham8767 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for sanji to unlock his conqueror's Haki 🔥💪
@ma_turk
@ma_turk Жыл бұрын
That’s not happening.
@blacklighting8225
@blacklighting8225 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@user-hj2lf1ez2c
@user-hj2lf1ez2c Жыл бұрын
his germa genes will replace it so hes good
@abduking.
@abduking. Жыл бұрын
@@ma_turk probably is
@ma_turk
@ma_turk Жыл бұрын
@@abduking. It would go against everything about Sanji’s character. It makes no sense for him to ever unlock conqueror’s haki
@kevinlee6003
@kevinlee6003 Жыл бұрын
It feels weird to call it Ryou... people get confused by it evem to this day. Ryou is Advanced Armament Haki
@Smd249
@Smd249 Жыл бұрын
Oda fumble zoros arc so bad
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