What’s With False Neutrals? | MC Garage

[@michor10]

Oh, man. It is really terrifying when it happens shifting aggressively at high speeds. Yikes!

[@LarsErikHel]

You think that's bad? How about having your transmission change back into the lower gear on hard acceleration, while going uphill...

[@michor10]

How did that happen? Shifted the wrong way by accident or mechanical failure? That must have been brutal, man.

[@LarsErikHel]

MickHornbak It seems my gearbox has such a tight tolerance that it doesn't have false neutrals, rather it likes to shift down if I don't shift it fully

[@michor10]

Could it be that your clutch cable is a little too tight?

[@LarsErikHel]

It's done it since I started riding in 2013, clutch should have the proper slack

[@XMotoMedia94]

nothing makes me feel more like a noob than a false neutral

[@jonfindlay7838]

The difference between noobs and non-noobs of any skill level isn't that non-noobs don't mess up, it's that non-noobs know when they mess up.

[@Rises]

xXDownshiftXx This as well as stalling smh lmao

[@travvypoo]

xXDownshiftXx I have been a bike owner for 3 weeks now and I have down shifted when I meant to upshift. Not only is this bad for a bike, but it makes you feel like a giant moron.

[@Northstar-Media]

Yep! its always better to have your brain in gear before getting on a motorcycle .

[@gsig123]

try swapping between a bike with a 5 down gearbox and one with a 1 down 4 up gearbox. that'll do your head in.

[@cappamura]

False neutrals are such bullshift.

[@johnjones4825]

Called a missed gear in South Africa, sign of an incompetent, mostly learner rider. I haven't missed a gear in 25 years...

[@thubelihlezondi5822]

John Jones I'm not a learner, I had a false-neutral two days ago. Experienced riders make mistakes and they definitely get false-neutrals.

[@Michael_NV]

Try Ducati Monster R.

[@johnstrombowly824]

Nice joke cappamura. Flew right over the Africans head.

[@cappamura]

John Strombowly thank you, I was starting to think no one would get it.

[@ytth83]

Motorcycle transmissions are exciting.

[@lmikek]

agree

[@mxrider2strokebraaap54]

Yes

[@MJT-DA]

Yadhu Sasidharan Dude my 07 ninja 250 makes a weird rumble feeling if I shift down to quickly. Also it does not go into first gear unless I throttle the bike at a standing stop..

[@B10401]

Yeah I want one in a miata with a liter bike v8. It would probably break but weight reduction breh.

[@waynes.2983]

Taijean Moodie your clutch is dragging too much for some reason.

[@thesighbored]

How about when it's sometimes so #$%^ hard to get into neutral when you stop, and it's dancing on 1st and 2nd? :)

[@bryceshuster6767]

I give it a little throttle and then it'll go. Or move the bike a little forward and back and it'll go

[@proelitjump1355]

Thats why before stoping you go into neutral, alaways goes for me

[@oldestries]

Your clutch sleeves doesnt disengage far enough to let the transmission fully open. Its also always appear whenever you trying to put it to 1st gear after cold start in the morning. Try different clutch springs or check maybe those are overtightened, myb adjust your clutch cable first before opening whole transmission.

[@bodekeys9483]

Ya lmao happens to me all the time

[@disbsam333]

Kawasaki has a really nice feature where you can't go into 2nd until you start moving. Makes it so easy to get into neutral.

[@Kneedragon1962]

Suggestion : When you get a false neutral, (as stated) try and get your revs to match your road-speed in the gear you should be in. Then change UP. If you got a false neutral between 4th & 5th, then go for 5th or 6th. Do not go down, whether that's the direction you were headed or not. Reason : there's no major problem if you suddenly find your self in 5th, when you expected 2nd, but there can be a very big problem if you suddenly find yourself in 2nd, when you expected 5th. A gear too high is an inconvenience. A gear too low can be life threatening. First, ride the motorbike - don't hit anything while you're distracted and messing with the gearbox. Second, change up - get in a gear that works, before you worry about getting the right gear. Third, change down and do it properly this time. False neutrals on an up-change are less of a problem, just do it again, and don't let the revs drop too much before you try it...

[@um6638]

Kneedragon1962 i accidentally downshift when it false gear, my front sprocket broke.... Broken screw... 😖

[@johnrichardson8048]

How are you going to end up 3 gears away from what you were expecting with a sequential transmission? Ya lost me.

[@mareksumguy1887]

Exactly. He talks rubbish.

[@doktorsalami9315]

You explained what I intuitively have been doing anyway. Very cool^^

[@Kneedragon1962]

@Jimmy Doran ~ mmm, yeah, or more likely a sign of a slippy left foot.

[@Robnoxious77]

Simple: Don’t stab at the gear lever. Apply pressure until the next gear is fully engaged, the clutch is out and you’ve loaded the transmission again, THEN release the shift lever.

[@saefulakbar6266]

That last part with clunking when shifting from neutral is gold! Thanks ari

[@bobbobby4832]

OMG this video just explained sooo much...thank you for making this for everyone. I've only experienced the false neutrals a few times, and realized that it actually was my fault for not shifting correctly. But the whole clunk thing when shifting into 1st at a stand still has been driving me nuts!!! Such a relief to know that it's not a "bad noise" hahaha

[@ramenadventure]

Everytime I had a false neutral, I thought, "You should look this up." Always instantly forgot. Thanks for the info!

[@luisvenegas385]

Literally me

[@Nalopotato]

I freakin love this channel...they answer all the weird questions ive always had about riding

[@AriH211]

Ha, that's our goal.

[@admireinspire]

DAMN! I usually don't care for short videos because I figure they'll dance around a topic for 2 mins and say 2 sentences on the topic but holy shit you answered all my questions in 3 mins! 10/10

[@AriH211]

Short and sweet, that's how we roll!

[@enb3810]

Did it once, quickshifting after a launch. Scared the fuck out of me. Sounded like a gallon of ball bearings in a blender. Haven't done it since then.

[@Death666wish]

Did it a few times, sounded like I was in neutral, unless you mean the sound was after you shifted again then I'd say you did something else.

[@jordang8730]

Death666wish whenever he shifted the transmission into false neutral in the video, it clunked back and forth between the two gears. the sound of the shifter clunking around is terrifying, and normal for a false neutral. the first time I did it, I'd never heard of it. it sounded so badly I thought my transmission had just said goodbye for good

[@CalamariCorps]

Jordan Granados Can that happen when you are actually IN neutral? because I was idling my bike once and I heard the same sound and then it slipped in to first and stalled

[@ELO_BOTT]

Legitimately could not subscribe fast enough! Me and my wife just got our first bike and I was missing 5>6 and you explained it to the T of what and why .don’t stop,The content helps and is good fast to the point

[@bikerbobcat]

This was so very, very informative. The mechanical guts of motorcycles may not be a sexy topic, but I'm always trying to learn more about my 2 wheel obsession and this transmission series is super great. Thank you for making this!

[@ShellShock794]

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[@LeoDeepak]

ShellShock794 future

[@highflow6143]

ShellShock794 i felt that hahaha 😂😂

[@thatjokerperson7062]

I needa adjust my lever so for me i can never hit 2nd its just me sounding like a dick revving the shit out of my bike over and over before i lose too much speed and give up back to first

[@naws69]

bruh

[@FranopXD]

Hahahaha actualy

[@villemil]

Minarelli AM6: First 50cc engine with 11 gears :D

[@akdsjgalksdfjg]

hahaha

[@Siuuuuuu22]

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[@hanco76]

do all am6 owners have problems with false neutral ?😀

[@KTM_Trooper]

Ive been here from 30k subs and i feel so happy to see mc garage increase their reach to other peoples too! genuinely the best motorcycle related channel and straight to the point mc garage is the only creditable motor channel ive seen on youtube! kudos to you guys

[@AriH211]

Thank for sticking with us.

[@MrBootsy666]

Finally the "clunk" explained!! I never thought of the fluid drag, but that makes perfect sense to me now. Thank you.

[@myhandleurl]

So much content in 3 mins.. Awesome work folks..

[@charliethechaplin]

thanks so much for answering common questions of motorcyclists especially newer riders. Keep the great videos coming!

[@AriH211]

Happy to help! We're convinced that the way to develop a strong motorcycling community and lifelong riders is to educate 'em.

[@christmg4682]

I was facing this issue since few days and was seeking help. How come KZbin knew what I was looking for!!?? Thank u for this video,it was really helpful.

[@christophmorley7510]

Great video as usual! I'd really like a MC Garage video on different types of air filter (paper, gauze, foam) and their pro's and con's.

[@jacobperry426]

I always wondered why the gear would catch the way it does, thank you for explaining that!

[@stlchevy95]

Ari for president 2020

[@maprow]

Ari for president 2017

[@nevinfrancis6385]

False neutral is the state where the gears disengage and fails to engage with another gear causing false neutral. It's common when we don't pull the clutch lever enough to change a gear or not shifting gears hardly. Redlining shift also influence the gear shifting into a false neutral.

[@n3ddn3dd24]

Excellent content as usual, explained simple and on point. Continuing with the transmission topic, what are the benefits of an aftermarket quick shifter for a street bike?

[@AiroRider]

Smoother shifts, no need to use your clutch after pulling away (upshifting) and it's just fun.

[@Mudux]

For a street bike? None.

[@Twinspinner]

N3DD Advantage? Less clutch lever squeezing/no need to blip the throttle when clutchless shifting. That's about it.

[@AriH211]

They're fun (addictive, really) first and foremost, but on the track they allow for quicker shifts with less effort, and that can mean faster lap times.

[@slatteea]

Unless you're on the track often I would advise against it. They dont work at low acceleration so it will encourage you to ride faster on the street. Will only encourage a ticket/accident. But if you race they're great!

[@Chromosome1919]

i had a lot of calls during falls neutrals especially whenever i hit a banking turn. this vid is actually what i needed just to assess myself during those situations. 😊

[@acko741]

just came back from my second motorcycle class and the bike stalled even though the panel light said it was on neutral. Then I come home and there is a motorcyclist magazine video explaining exactly what happened and how to avoid. just... magical..

[@sFde46]

the neutral light should not be ON, if you're in a false neutral. im might be wrong though.

[@johnjones4825]

Correct.

[@Death666wish]

No, you were in gear and the bike thought you weren't, that's something else. I actually thought that what happened to you is false neutral, as it looks like it's neutral but it really isn't.

[@TheTomco11]

The neutral indicator lies, your instructors may tell you at some point. Some bikes are better than others for this, just an idiosyncrasy of how its designed. My Sv has never given me a false neutral light, but my dad's f650gs does it, and also the light does not always come on in neutral. Simply because the switch for the neutral light isn't located on the selector fork in the gearbox, but on components closer to the lever, so any slop in the movement could mean the switch is triggered before the selector fork moves

[@AQS521]

When I took my class they told us to never rely on the neutral light. It has never happened to me, but bikes do sometimes think they're in neutral when they aren't. Anyway, to avoid embarrassment just slowly let out the clutch when the bike says it's in neutral.

[@alpha_tango]

you guys are SERIOUSLY helping me to understand so many aspects of motorcycle mechanics!! I thank you eternally PLEASE keep it up. One topic I'm interested in is what is the best braking technique in city commute scenario, and specially when it's raining.... Maybe it's not the topic for this channel but I thought I might suggest it anyway just in case.. CHEERS!!! ALex.

[@hoenndpn9200]

N doesn’t stand for neutral It stands for NANI!?!

[@user-cg9vp9bf5d]

I’m fucking dead

[@milan5159]

AHAHAHA NANI?!!!

[@el-danihasbiarta1200]

Lol

[@ruudiutsenikov609]

Yes bcs when u accidently false neutral then u say NANI!!

[@elias-nf8qj]

Fuck off

[@kiwiandyt123]

Great video as always! Simple and clear explanation, professionally presented without fuss or drama.

[@connerwiltshire7528]

I’ve done this once before but luckily I saved it fast enough. But it still hurt me on the inside

[@irideaduck939]

While Ari just touch on adjusting the linkage, I see this as a good and free solution ... I lowered mine slightly to get a more positive shift within the range of motion of my ankle rotation.

[@tmr-1d1]

gahh thank you for this video, I was freaking out thinking I had a major mechanical issue

[@graemesfraser]

Haven’t had a false neutral, but did wonder about the “cluck.” Not super mechanical, but this cleared it up for me. Thanks for another great video.

[@HughWalenski]

Thank you! Especially that clunk into 1st. I always think, "Well, it's the beginning of the end. You were good to me sweetheart, now sleeeeeeeeep." But it's just the damn dogs spinning from fluid friction totally fine no bigs yay!

[@GuitarznGirlz]

This doesn't happen very often but when it does its always coming to a stoplight that turns green before I come to a full stop. Very informative video.

[@ConkerTheCat]

I had this happen between 3rd and 2nd gear. I couldnt shift down to first at all, had to shift up, then down to fix it.

[@carlosdeleon9593]

Conker The Cat happened to me a few times, so I pulled over when it happened one time and found out that the shift lever was going underneath the foot peg bolt

[@cney2125]

Love the MC garage and all the other MC vids. Keep em comin!

[@TerryBollea1]

they actually ARE an intresting topic....I learned ALOT in just 3min here!

[@mmorgz6622]

thank you for this vid... i hate these bloody false neutrals and had no idea why they happened. this clears it up.

[@cbro412]

Anybody else love the clunk when shifting to first or is it just me? Lol

[@kennethblocher6110]

This is good info, even for someone that normally drives a 6spd pickup. I didn't get exactly how motorcycle transmissions work. This really clears up a lot of confusion I had on my first ride.

[@caruser4]

I thought I was crazy lol

[@TuAnh-xm3ix]

Carlos Gomez lol

[@caruser4]

@Jimmy Doran the first time I ever experienced a false neural it was on my Suzuki 😆

[@caruser4]

@Jimmy Doran Idk man I've had three Harleys, two Suzukis, and one Kawasaki. The only one that I've ever gotten a false neutral with is my V-Strom and my Katana. I think I know how to use a transmission and shifter. It's not exactly rocket science 😂

[@bsmith9123]

Jimmy Doran just happened on my 2020 ninja 650, maybe because it only has 30 miles on it and it isn’t broken in?

[@simdoran8516]

@@bsmith9123 Very rare for a kawasaki to do that When changing gears you have to be positive with the gear lever going up and down the gearbox and that will eliminate any false neutrals.

[@DrumGod22]

This is VERY interesting stuff man! Keep up the series, I love these!

[@ryedc8674]

But what's your take on clutchless shifting and engine braking?

[@Poop-nu1so]

finally a video that is balanced between time and depth

[@Shazzkid]

Maybe your gearbox is from Switzerland

[@danocreations]

Why?

[@Twiggy163]

@@danocreations seriously?

[@danocreations]

@@Twiggy163 I'll delete my comment after you explained so you won't be mad anymore

[@danocreations]

@@Twiggy163 then we're gonna act like nothing happened, ok?

[@Twiggy163]

@@danocreations Lol, I was just wondering if you realy didnt get the joke. Its fine if you dont, I was expecting a 'no, just poking' response. Onto the explaining bit: Switserland has always remained neutral. First world war, second world war, its not in the EU (leaving a blank spot in the hart of an EU map). Fiercly neutral. Hence the joke: gearbox keeps going into neutral.. must be Swiss. It has cooperated with nations in the past, so that would be the 'false neutral'... I suppose.

[@AliRazaAgha]

So many answers in 3 minutes. Well done!

[@PrevedMedveds]

Question for next videos I always wanted yo ask: Life expectancy of motorcycles. What average milege you can do until your motorcycle becomes junk? Yes I know it very depends on riding style, oil change etc but why some 1000cc bikes like Kawasaki versys can do 300000 km but you rarely see R1 with more that 100000 km. What average engine resource for different types of motorcycles?

[@PrevedMedveds]

And how engine size scales with motorcycle lifespan? Does 250cc always lives less that 650cc or 1000cc ?

[@jth_1016]

any motorcycle if its japanese will last forever if you take good care of it key to long engine life is complete engine warm up, and clean high quality MOTORCYCLE oil my 2015 fz09 has 40000 miles with no oil burning and pulled 110 hp on the dyno last week

[@AriH211]

That's dependent on SO many factors. How the bike is used and maintained, the conditions it's ridden in, the metallurgy and manufacturing quality...

[@akupehsluarketatAR]

bikes in the early days are built to last a long time but im not sure about modern bikes components of today. Seems like parts are outsourced from mainly China.I see newer bikes with frequent electronic parts failing even on Honda. Aint sure if its the hardware itself or just software glitch. Engines are built by the manufacturer though.

[@sntslilhlpr6601]

Any bike engine from the major manufacturers will last a long time without needing to be rebuilt if you take care of it (motocross bikes being the exception). The reason you don't see many sportbikes like the R1 with high mileage is because most of them either get crashed and parted out or they just don't get ridden often enough. The Versys is much more likely to be a commuter than an R1, and you're also a lot more likely to crash the R1 in a way that totals it because of the expensive plastic.

[@80a7x]

good job Ari, I'm a new to rideing, and I find these videos provide essential info , and help make me a safe rider.

[@AriH211]

That's great to hear, that's why we make them in the first place.

[@mr.braaptastic3794]

You guys rock, subscribed!

[@AriH211]

Woohoo! Thanks.

[@ScorpioAJO]

Thanks man! Definitely explained what they were called!👌🏻 I knew I wasn’t changing through the gear correctly cause I was lazy,but happy to know that it was me and not my bike dying😂

[@shelby3822]

bet the blood banks love this guy

[@teds4983]

??

[@chrisredfield3240]

Is it another motorcyclist organ donors thing. Apparently doctors call us organ donors lol..

[@dunewolfjr.4618]

This happened to me a few days ago and I legit thought I was tripping balls, glad to know I’m not crazy.

[@Mototzigane]

Who's going to take over this now ? 😐

[@aaronpalmer9183]

just watched this coz ive never heard of this happening before always like the full detail in these videos, learned heaps being a new rider from these feeds

[@__Leon__]

could anyone explain in more detail what could be wrong with a transmission that goes out of gear and has very contstant false neutrals between 4th and 5th and 5th and 6th?

[@mrtballlv]

Leon possibly gears worn down?

[@__Leon__]

i don't know, I have taken this whole bike apart and painted the frame and put a new cilinder on it, but now it has this gear problem. Im guessing ill have to take the blovk apart to find out..

[@Crookmk4]

Leon Well trying out a slightly different oil has worked for some people

[@__Leon__]

thats a really good tip, ima try that out! thanks

[@TheTomco11]

Sounds like you need to take a look at the shift star/arm/spring

[@gronkgrunk]

Another top notch vid from u guys. Always learning me some new stuff from mc garage!

[@KalleTheGuy]

AM6

[@thewilliam2223]

Munkken relatable

[@kallecrotts]

Rabasa on se juttu

[@aimanechouhaibi169]

Yeah

[@akdsjgalksdfjg]

yup😂😂

[@johnbennett7247]

You are one of the best when it comes to explaining bike stuff simple and superb. keep the vids coming Bro I'm learning new things every time 👍from the uk

[@AriH211]

Great feedback, thanks John. Ride safe.

[@joni7166]

Minarelli AM6

[@SheIITear]

Bruh

[@soundshinedj]

Subscribed. You had me by explaining the "thunk" sound when I 1st engage the transmission, thank you so much🙂. I'm totally new to motorcycles, the only one I've ridden beside my bike was the bike I trained on during my MSF course. That bike was 26 years old, and being as I was trying to consume any and all info I was being presented with I really didn't pay a lot of attention to the bike I was riding. Now, anything curious that happens to me I google, since I have no benchmark to compare to. Thanks again

[@whazzpoppin8568]

How to fix this problem: Get rid of am6

[@Exicor]

At least they are good quality

[@mfnspirdoo]

well would still pick it over rabasa

[@Jortsa]

Am6 falseneutrals fucking bullshit and annoying

[@jonney3703]

@@Jortsa nii o

[@rodzilla134]

That was a good video. Informative, to the point, and lacking in BS. The visual was great. Thanks!

[@TotallyL337]

BRING BACK THE DREADS

[@AriH211]

Lol. How are we STILL getting these comments? It's been years!

[@Death666wish]

2012 Fireblade was the first review I saw you in, you must've changed a size or two for your helmets after the haircut haha.

[@AriH211]

Dude, that was the second ever episode of OTW. I didn't even know I was going to be on film, I thought the video guys were just there to shoot onboard. Crazy how far we come. If I watched that review now I think I'd wince the whole way through!

[@Death666wish]

hehehe, made me sub right away. Keep up the good work! Couldn't find the video just now though.

[@Daniel-xg1cl]

still the best intro on KZbin

[@Raez_XL]

MC Garage has helped me learn so much about the bikes that i love. Thank you MCG!!

[@AriH211]

You're welcome!

[@fhhfgj]

Thanks Ari! these three four five minute explanations are great and really have helped me learn a lot about my bike

[@AriH211]

That's great to hear. Thanks for watching.

[@marcelocruz1361]

My old 2 stroke 50cc motorcycle actually has "real neutrals" between every gear, at least I think it's supposed to be like that. It literally feels like it's supposed to be like that. It's a 4 speed 50cc Zundapp engined bike and my dad's old bike, with a 5 speed 50cc Casal (it was a portuguese motorcycle brand) engine had these too, according to him. Unfortunately he doesn't have it anymore. Nice job on explaining false neutrals

[@HansSoloYolo]

This used to happen to me all the time. When you shift put some pressure on the shift lever with your foot, THEN pull in/let out the clutch in one motion and you will never have smoother shifts. Hope this helps, has worked wonders for me!

[@aswandanawawan]

a little tip that might help, if you're always hear that noisy first gear shifting on stationary position, you might wanna push your bike slightly to front while engaging that first gear, it helps to reduce that noise. i'm not a pro, but it really helps me

[@colinkutz5930]

wow, so i finally know why you sometimes have to roll the bike forward a little to get it to go into gear. Thanks!

[@MrLeChoisi]

2:38 thumbs up for answering an existencial doubt about first gear kick...

[@NM-Collection]

from basic infos to critical ones. good work!

[@airtonsoares2664]

Just to beat a dead horse, motorcycle transmissions are exciting. I've wondered these two specific questions since I purchased my first bike but have failed to ask or even look for an answer. Awesome video 👍👌

[@AriH211]

Damn, so MC Garage is answering questions before you even ask them. I think that's a sure sign of success.

[@bigbw0ii]

Thank you so much for this video. Thought my transmission was giving up on me!

[@14Freedom2]

Great video......first time I went into a false neutral it scared the crap out of me I was in between 5th and 6th

[@jmatarazzo18]

Always impressed by the quality of your content. Keep it up!

[@AriH211]

Thanks Joe, we're happy you appreciate it.

[@Mr.Riffian]

Thanks for posting. I learned a lot within a few video clips. And here I was thinking I already knew what i needed to know. Keep up the good work!

[@recpro7847]

Another thumbs up. About time for an "outtakes" video. :)

[@DesertDuc]

It's worth mentioning that many people experience false neutrals because of improper shifter height. If it's set too high, for example, they might run out of flexibility before reaching the end of the shifter's travel. Proper shifter setting will make full shifts easier and more reliable.

[@Cerberus256]

You guys nail these vids every time, nice job

[@keheaven]

As always the content and presentation of your videos is first class. Congrats on a great channel !

[@AriH211]

Thanks Kris, hopefully you've subscribed.

[@nexorabolis]

Huh, I always wondered about that first gear clunk. I just assumed my clutch was going bad and not fully disengaging the engine. Thanks :)

[@krishnachaitanya8590]

You should have a million subs!

[@gabe7773]

Once again another amazing video on something I always wanted to know. And simple enough for me to understand.

[@AriH211]

Glad you liked it Gabriel.

[@ag522]

I like videos like this. It helps me out a lot, being that I'm a new rider. Great information. Need more videos, more often!

[@Docv400]

Never had a false Neutral, as I always convert my Bikes to the 'Racer' pattern (one-up ~ five-down). Pressing down on the Gear Lever is much more positive than lifting up. You also never risk catching your Boot on the Road when changing up mid-corner.

[@anthonytaggart5598]

This seriously answered one of my biggest questions with regards to the clunk going from neutral to 1st. Ahhh, oil friction! Also finding out the difference between oil Vs dry clutches also helped me solve why my gears became very hard to shift. I just changed my oil much more often than recommended.

[@Brgnalf81]

You guys should do a video about buying a used bike. What to look out for, and where are the most important areas to check.

[@petergaylord]

Experienced occasional false neutrals on my K7 SV650S when I once used semi-synthetic oil. Switched back to full synthetic and they became a very rare problem.

[@colinmarcano1430]

Best place for interesting videos always entertaining...keep up the great work!

[@thomasthijs962]

This is a great video, i have a shifter moped and i was already wondering why i mis shifted some times. Thanks for the great video!

[@marcfuchs6938]

It's very different with each bike, but with mine (2017 Kawasaki Ninja 1000) I can have clear effect on that "smash" when switching from neutral to 1st while standing: When you pull the clutch and immediately put in gear, the full rotation power slams into the stationary part. If you pull the clutch for too long, the rotating elements inside the gear box slowly come to a stand, where you probably can't put in 1st gear. The secret about this is to "imagine" the right time frame where the rotating parts inside your gearbox have slowed down, but are still moving. They need to move in order to allow the 1st gear jump in, but when they have lost some of their energy, there might be not such a big slam (which also means, less wear down of your mechanical parts), sometimes the gear might even slip in smoothly without anything to feel or to hear. But as said, that might not work for many other bikes, since I have tested this on a Z650 and no matter how long I pull the clutch, the 1st gear will always smash in. It depends on the gear box really. What you can do and what manufacturers usually advice, is to put in 1st gear short before coming to a stop. That way you have minimum wear down of the mechanical parts and no smash, but you will need to hold the clutch for as long as you are standing. Trick would be though, if you know it's a red a light that stays red for a while (or anything else where you know, you will keep standing for a bit), being in 1st gear, you could turn of your engine with the kill switch. Then you have a secure stand, no gas consumption and no noise emission, but you could still quickly start your engine and head off, since no gear switch is needed - just think of putting your kill switch back to "on" right after the engine stopped, otherwise your take off later takes longer than you wanted.

[@justanotherbronco4750]

Loving watching your channel! It’s like engineering explained but for motorcycles

[@caspforge]

well explained. I never seem to get false neutrals but sometimes I pop it into neautral instead of second when my footwork gets lazy

[@Triplex5014]

Oh, now I get it. I'm not a motorcyclist but 5 years ago I was riding a moped with 5 gears. As I was going up through the gears, when I wanted to shift from 4th to 5th I just ended up in neutral. While still rolling on the road I thought would it be a good idea to shift back to 4th or pull up to 5th again, but I just stopped with the brakes to the side of the road to play it safe and not damage anything in the gearbox. I pulled the clutch and shifted down, let the clutch and the engine stalled so I knew that I was in 4th. Then I just shifted down to 1st and off I went again riding. That was my first experience with a false neutral and I thought that there was neutral between all gears, silly me. Now I know I must pull the lever all the way to avoid a false neutral.

[@astifcaulkinyeras]

Another thing that helps avoid false neutrals is to make sure your shift lever is adjusted to match the middle of your foot's range of motion. If the end of the shift lever travel is near the end of your foot's range of motion then you might sometimes miss kicking it all the way up.