What the HECK is TEMPEH and WHY you SHOULD Eat MORE of it!

[@SauceStache]

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[@DerekMecca]

I'm trying to order but it isn't giving me the option for the free frother?

[@lisakusel6102]

I lived in Bali for a while, where tempeh is as ubiquitous as pasta is in the US. One thing all people do there before cooking tempeh is to steam it for 10 minutes--to prepare it for cooking and allow it to absorb flavors. Thanks for this video.

[@babyy_flower]

love steaming it first!

[@dailywwin]

And it’s not just steaming, but also infusing the tempeh with herbs and spices while steaming so the tempeh has flavor inside. This technique is called “Ungkep”. I’ve seen some westerners cooking tempeh and I can tell their tempeh is bland AF because they don’t marinate the tempeh or do the ungkep technique.

[@lisakusel6102]

@@dailywwin Yes, that, plus the fact that most of the time the blocks were steamed IN BANANA LEAVES, which, um, really amps it up. Then, you top it with some sambal, and life is good. x

[@Evenape]

If you want some guilty snacks from tempe, batter and fry them up! Dice and fry them then saute in sweet soy. Try tempe mendoan, and you'll be a tempe convert, I think (PS, in Indonesia tempeh is everyone's food, not just vegans')

[@SauceStache]

Wow that sounds good!! I've had fried tempeh before and it was wild! but this sounds awesome! thank you

[@willn8664]

I wouldn't say guilty snacks because tempeh is still WAY more healthier than any animal products.

[@auron7361]

Sweet food is not common to the tongues of foreigners, and is not even common in some regions of Indonesia. Sweet food is only common to the tongues of Javanese people.

[@Evenape]

@@SauceStache Sorry for the late reply, but yeah, try some in situ recipes and you'd be surprised how fun it is

[@julesherman6802]

​@@auron7361sweet food is common through out indonesia. That's why kecap Manis is used nation wide. Fyi: it's actually Tempe that is Javanese food

[@kimberlysauber5601]

1:14 - Tempeh is what STOPPED my hot flashes!! No joke!! I started getting hot flashes every 2 hours 24/7. A week in to that misery, research said “plant based and add 1 cup of soy a day” Luckily I was already plant based but not eating much soy. I made tempeh bacon (Facon I call it) and after eating a half a block a day, the 7th day my hot flashes stopped!!! If I get any now, I realize it’s been a couple days since I ate my soy, I eat some and they’re gone again. Any woman that’s had hot flashes, KNOWS how miserable they are and I can’t believe I can EAT my way out of them. Let food be thy medicine. No meds here, just soy. 😃😃😃💯

[@the10thplague]

I love tempeh for a healthy quick snack: dice tempeh in small cubes, pan-fry over high heat until lightly browning, add some sliced green beans (about some weight as you used for the tempeh), keep sautéing for 2 minutes, then add a can of tomato paste and of course some soy sauce. Sauté for another two minutes and: presto. Really quick, tasty and healthy. Also Tempeh is much, much cheaper than chicken where I am (Netherlands). Tempeh is about €5/kg, where chicken is about €15/kg.

[@rahmadrenaldi2624]

never seen tempeh with so little mushrooms(the white parts) most tempeh that i saw in the market have thick layer of mushrooms.

[@dsbmblade5053]

Your wife is seriously so cute, loving and supportive in the things you do! You're one lucky guy.

[@JulieOParkCity]

I’ve have learned it’s better to steam tempeh for around 10 to 15 minutes before marinating it or cooking with it. Steaming helps get rid of the bitterness. I use my silicone microwave steamer which makes it super easy.

[@winwinmilieudefensie7757]

Bitterness??? Wthyta?? What bittterness?😮😅😂

[@barraktu]

@@winwinmilieudefensie7757 I see some other comments mentioning a bit of funkiness from the nature of fermenting and boiling reduces that flavor.

[@winwinmilieudefensie7757]

@@barraktu but bitter is not a thing

[@barraktu]

@@winwinmilieudefensie7757 I agree. I'm just assuming that's what she meant by bitter.

[@sherreefoxworth7826]

Thanks for this tip. I enjoy tempeh. But I agree tempeh has a weird aftertaste. I’m going to try steaming it to see if that helps.

[@GoPieman]

Asian supermarket have frozen tempeh at much better value for money, but western brands are milder. I love tempeh enough that i'll nibble on raw pieces after chopping it. Just with salt and batter is my version of fish and chips, top with parsley and squeeze of lemon. And plain fried goes with everything.

[@Tooyule]

Tried to read about Tempe Mendoan, you will find enhanced version of that fried tempeh

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

OMG tempeh! My favourite! Out of all people, i can't believe you guys would cover it. My favourite way of cooking it is simply fry them thick, served with rice and sambal. You can make it vegan by subbing shrimp paste with nutritional yeast, that's also a bit of family secret sauce to boost it's umami. Second favourite way is slice it thin and batter it. As for marinade i like it simple, salt, powdered broth, minced shallot and garlic, and sometimes white/black pepper. Though there are many, way too many great marinade including sweet ones (tempe bacem). PS: You can make your own tempeh. I've done it as school project. Just make sure everything is sterile, otherwise the fungus won't grow properly. PPS: A good rule of thumb is to not use too cold oil, cook fast, and aim for undercook for more tender and less greasy result. Overcooked tempeh tends to be too tough and hard, which is fine if it's thin and crunchy but not for thick slabs. Also good to reheat, because cold tempeh also tends to be tough.

[@nassahdeys92]

I love tempe. my grandma used to fry them straight and then eat it with sambal hitam. awesome snack.

[@Fr0stbite1801]

Tempe is sooo underrated. Like tofu's pretty big worldwide but more people need to know about tempe. Like honestly, just fried tempe on rice is all I need to be happy.

[@sekar9901]

I think it's because indonesia are not a popular country. If it's Japanese who invented the tempeh, it would be way more famous. 😅 I mean natto looks more yucky but also more popular.

[@Fr0stbite1801]

@@sekar9901 I also think the "love it or hate it" thing with natto is a part of its popularity, kinda like vegemite.

[@ohaia23]

​@@sekar9901it's about soft power bro

[@Lesliemfit]

Exactly!!

[@jenborcic]

I've been making cheeze from fermented bulgur. Sooooo Good. Fermented for 5 weeks at room temp. Keshek el Fouqara (Lebanese Bulgur Cheese)

[@tamcon72]

What Monica said at the end, same: I don't eat enough tempeh, even though I like it. Hopefully this will remind me to buy some, because this is such an easy and tasty-looking recipe. Thanks for posting 🙂

[@zz.xi.]

I'm Indonesian and I've been eating tempeh every day since I was little. The price of tempeh in Indonesia is very affordable.

[@topvegan]

Tempeh is my favorite vegan protein ever! It was the first alternative protein I tried after going vegan and it was love at first bite ❤️

[@ginduf]

This looks interesting, I'm going to have to try this. Although I prefer it uncooked. It's pasteurized when they have it in those vacuum sealed packages, so it's okay raw. I slice it thin and make a marinade the slices with maple syrup, soy sauce, molasses, garlic, vinegar, garlic powder, onion powder, hot sauce (Franks) and some garam masala, mushroom seasoning to taste. I'll use it like I would have used lunch meat previously, prepare my bread with my favorite fixings, put on a layer of tempeh, yum.

[@roowyrm9576]

I didnt like tempeh first either, then i siscovered how to cook it....and also discovered ready marinaded tempeh.

[@SauceStache]

Ohhh I was going to talk about pre seasoned tempeh but there are just soooo many! I figured a good base to start was with a decent recipe. I dont know what it was about it at first, but anytime I would go out to a restraunt and get it I just didnt enjoy it. Until I cooked it at home the first time. Then I was sold

[@ddewittfulton]

Tempeh is the best lazy prep protein in my repertoire! I like the brand featured in the video... I honestly can just cube stuff and throw it in a dry skillet and service it with steam veggies and hummus and I'm done! I've even made sandwiches with blocks and crumbles! I actually prefer its texture to tofu! Great mouth feel! If there's a dessert option, I could probably fit it into every meal!

[@n0etic_f0x]

Fun addition to the marinade. Prepared lapsang tea. This gets a very smokey BBQ edge. Very good making it taste like something you smoke for a while.

[@sassanada]

I love lapsang, and this never occurred to me. Thanks for the inspiration!!

[@severussnape5607]

We eat tempe every day, for a quick side dish we use warm water and salt to marinate the tempe, just dont overcook the tempe or it will taste bitter

[@ohaia23]

You can try make tempe orek,tempe bacem,tempe mendoan,gorengan,and you can make tempe chips too!,etc,in Indonesia we eat tempeh everyday.

[@jencollier8306]

Ooh tempe chips!! Nice!

[@alonebutnotlonely1964]

I have a block of tempeh so I’m going to try this in a few minutes. Question: why do so many recipes include boiling the tempeh first?

[@SauceStache]

To soften it up a bit more and help impart some juiciness!! IT also helps remove some tempeh flavor if you dont like it. I normally simmer mine if I dont boil it

[@Toaster-v1z]

Yes, mellows out the funkiness. I fry my 1/4 inch cubes in a little oil to brown, then add 1/4 cup of water and sauce, cover and let braise, remove lid to thicken and done.

[@Heavenlyrules]

Its the traditional of some indonesians tribe that doesn't like its unique taste. The javanese pople whom invented it don't have that trouble but as tempeh spread especially to bali and bali people tend interact with foreigner their method got tramsmitted to the european and tourist alike.

[@Luvinist]

You just basically made 'orek tempe', a staple dish for office workers everywhere in Indonesia. You are missing ginger and a good thick sweet soy sauce though.

[@lamisticahumana]

The simple recipe for tempe is: chop that into rectangle, put that into water mix by salt and chopped garlic, and fry that into hot oils. And waited till crisp and turned yellow-brownish. Thats it, fried tempe is served

[@tedrodenborn]

Dude, I just got my first order of Not Steak Sauce. This is some amazing sauce! And here I thought you were just over hyping it 😊. Nice job Mark. Great channel, too.

[@SauceStache]

Hahah thank you soooooo much and I’m stoked you liked it! I really believe in it!

[@DerHarlekin98]

I used to be heavily overweight so I get the struggle, keep up the good work! Love your recipes

[@highlandmary33]

tempeh rocks!!! Tempeh made with adzuki bean is the best of the best though!

[@amarantaASMR]

Omg! Thank you! Just two weeks ago I literally searched "sauce stache tempeh".... and here we are haha. Tempeh needs more attention and your recipes are always so great!

[@JTMusicbox]

I’m definitely tempehed to try this!

[@TheTrueMessageFoundation]

Take my like and leave.

[@annabrusa8004]

I love tempeh for richer tasting meals. It reminds me a little of mushrooms.

[@LoveStory-o9n]

Tempeh tradisional food Indonesian

[@turtuul3919]

You should cut it thin , really thin, then marinate it with smashed garlic, and mushroom powder and salt, marinated it like an hour or over night, then deepfried it, it will be crispy, it how an indonesian would do it wich is where it made of

[@MysticScapes]

Am I this lucky, Sauce Stache and Gaz Oakley talking about tempeh within 2 days!

[@TheDietNinja]

I'd like to add that phytoestrogens are great for the libido.

[@Concreteowl]

I tried fermenting my own. You can use just about any bean. But I live in Scotland so it's not easy.

[@sandralutz-rodriguez2864]

that looks super easy and super delicious!

[@marystestkitchen]

That tempeh looks awesome!! Sadly it's I haven't found any reliably non-bitter brand of store-bought tempeh. My solution has been to ferment at home where I can control the ripeness and eat it before it gets overdeveloped (which is when I find it gets bitter). Only downside is I haven't found a source for split dried soybeans which are the best for making tempeh without too much work involved. Anyone found a source in Canada for *split* soybeans?

[@jessicag630]

Nikmatul Rosidah's channel has made authentic tempeh in Canada. She is an Indonesian marrying a Canadian.

[@marystestkitchen]

@@jessicag630 Yeah she's using whole soybeans and manually peeling the skins like me 😭

[@sekar9901]

​@@marystestkitchen Nah, a lot of foreigner complain about the bitterness. As indonesian, i never notice the bitterness unless it's overriped. Even most indonesian don't like overriped tempeh 😅. Maybe it's because the low demand, they only sell overriped tempeh. Here in indonesia the seller only sell freshly made tempeh everyday. It's so unfortunate that they mostly sell overriped tempeh abroad, it's ruining people first experience. They'll thinking tempeh taste bitter, then hate it.

[@marystestkitchen]

@@sekar9901 exactly! When I had tempeh from an Indonesian restaurant, it was not bitter at all. I believe they made their own too.

[@Rayenn_19]

You can simmer the tempeh to get rid of the bitterness

[@Brand-yk6dw]

So if a cluster style candy bar met with tofu and had a baby..... Now presenting, Tempeh

[@YoKendog]

I freaking ❤ tempeh! I made my own incubator so I can make it at home for much cheaper! Unlike beef, tonight… It’s What’s For Dinner! 😂

[@peacechan4500]

Tempeh chips is peak. Fried thinly sliced tempe like a chips and fried it like a potato chip.

[@audreysmith2557]

I have one of those microwave silicone popcorn poppers! What a great idea to use it to steam veggies in it!! Great looking tempeh, too. I never seem to know what to do with it, so I’ll give this a try. And one last thing…Monica, you look great today! So well rested. Sometimes I suspect that Mark pulls you away from your work to give your review (lucky to have a live-in cook!😉) At times you have a screen-zombie look, like do you have a job that keeps you in front of a computer screen? You look wonderful today.

[@shastafog2516]

You are 👍 great. NO Microwave 😮

[@SauceStache]

Thank you so much 😀

[@2close2themoon]

I love tempeh. I'll have to try this marinade/sauce.

[@Oriansenshi]

I tried tempeh one time and i was so hyped to try it. It tasted horrible and was so bitter! I found out later that it helps to boil it first and then cook it, so i keep meaning to try that sometime.

[@sekar9901]

Nah, a lot of foreigner complain about the bitterness. As indonesian, i never notice the bitterness unless it's overriped. Even most indonesian don't like overriped tempeh 😅. Maybe it's because the low demand, they only sell overriped tempeh. Here in indonesia the seller only sell freshly made tempeh everyday. It's so unfortunate that they mostly sell overriped tempeh abroad, it's ruining people first experience. They'll thinking tempeh taste bitter, then hate it.

[@robertgipson9921]

Tempeh rules!! That looks like a pasteurised block. If you can find unpasteurised then it has added probiotic benefits for your gut health.

[@denizbrock6571]

I love tempeh, I make my own now so it’s super cheap. A pound of soybeans is just over a dollar ❤

[@jongoldman9279]

Just bought my first block of tempeh. Looking forward to preparing it.

[@rondapointer6363]

I like tempeh, I can wait to try mud/ water

[@SauceStache]

Its good right!!? and yeah Mud/Wtr is awesome!!! I've been drinking it for a couple years now.

[@rondapointer6363]

Yes!!! I been rejecting myself from coffee because I think it causing my hormones to be out of control and I need a natural boost of energy

[@Toaster-v1z]

It's a bit of an aquired taste. A little bit funkey, but i love it. Costco used to sell a 2-pack which was very economical.

[@OWK000]

I don't know why people fry tempeh. Honestly the best thing about it, is the texture and the feeling that you have had a digestible balanced meal when you just ate pressure steamed tempeh with chili garlic sauce. It grows on you. It's satisfying. And really, it was getting over the frying thing that made me a convert. Frying ruins the texture, and doesn't help flavor either, and ruins the digestibility. In other words, it tastes like crap and doesn't give you that health boost feeling. I am not totally anti-frying, but if I want to fry something, I rather make it real meat or onions, or freaking potatoes, but not tempeh.

[@TheMrvideowatcher97]

Amaziiiiiiing!!!! Love tempehh in every wayyy!!❤ Also i haven't been watching ur videos since a while ago!!! And i mean like A WHILE!! And u have gotten so fit🎉 congratulations on ur journey c: i hope u and ur wife are feeling best. And thanks for so much. Have a lot to catch up 😂

[@SauceStache]

Thank you soooo very much for all of that!! We have been feeling great and its been a huge journey for me, I never thought I would enjoy fitness but its now my life. I wish I could go back 10 years ago and figure out how to kick myself into gear!

[@1linnell]

I have always found Tempe too bitter. Parboiling hasn’t helped. Any help on that? I guess I’m surprised more folks don’t find it bitter

[@julieowens7095]

I have tried every which way but just can't tolerate it. Even the smell of it cooking makes me have to vacate the house. It tastes and snells like some foreign chemical to me. I'm amazed that so many love it. It's like eating mouldy face cream or similar

[@sekar9901]

​@@julieowens7095Nah, a lot of foreigner complain about the bitterness. As indonesian, i never notice the bitterness unless it's overriped. Even most indonesian don't like overriped tempeh 😅. Maybe it's because the low demand, they only sell overriped tempeh. Here in indonesia the seller only sell freshly made tempeh everyday. It's so unfortunate that they mostly sell overriped tempeh abroad, it's ruining people first experience. They'll thinking tempeh taste bitter, then hate it.

[@possiblycurryddork]

Buy a better brand. Some sell it frozen so it never gets old

[@barony1]

My favorite vegan protein source

[@SauceStache]

Im so late to the game on this one!

[@endergonzalez7970]

Have you ever had hot krust they had amazing tempeh bacon wish they didn’t close

[@Okkoson]

try making your own, itd be an even greater vid, (broad)beans cooked with acidity is just the best! theres some unique quality to it fresh

[@naomihirsch2796]

Yum, I love tempeh! And we all love Monica! Hi Monica

[@reed6514]

Seems easier to cook than chicken (despite my comment on your other vid about veg cooking being difficult)

[@dailywwin]

I’m not into westerners seasoning so I’m not gonna try the seasoning you make in this video. The flavor profile doesn’t suit my Indonesian tastebuds. Just not my cup of tea. But I can confirm your technique in tempeh cooking prep is correct. 👍 I’ve seen a lot of westerners never marinade tempeh, they just sprinkle salt and pepper on frying pan while cooking it. I can tell it’s bland AF. Some westerners boil or steam the tempeh without infusing it with spices or herbs. The tempeh will still be bland. We want the tempeh to have flavor not only outside but also inside.

[@qualqui]

I've never heard of Tempeh, but that marinated Tempeh you guys just ate, looks SCRUMPTIOUS, checking the whole foods here or btw, is Edamame, fresh soy? In case I don't find any ready made Tempeh, then I can make it from scratch?😋👍

[@ninjaturtles12121]

can you please link that red thing for steaming broccoli??? im lazy and that would be great for a quick meal

[@BrianGawlik]

loving the videos lately man!

[@mohamadizzuddin7068]

Try smoke tempeh and glaze with bbq sauce, i bet it fire

[@VenusSage98]

Love seeing Walker!

[@cerbzzz7147]

Is there any meat tempeh could mimick realistically? I've never had tempeh but my Indonesian friend recommended it to me since I really like tofu and theyre both soy

[@xwtek3505]

Nothing. It's its own thing. It's still delicious when prepared correctly, though.

[@margarett_b]

I looove tempeh and just as Monica said, I don’t eat enough of it either! I really appreciate how simple you kept this recipe, very relatable in contrast to your experiment-focused videos! Something pretty much anyone could easily whip up ❤

[@alaskansummertime]

Its possible to make your own tempeh but it seems like a precise process with not a lot of room for error. I've made a business out of selling different sorts of cultures and this was one I never wanted to invest in. It seems like if you could make your own it wouldn't just benefit your health but your finances too as most of the cost for this is not materials.

[@itsbg11]

Love it!

[@SauceStache]

Thanks!!

[@itsbg11]

@@SauceStache Welcome Im a big fan of you and your cooking, Love from Pakistan.

[@jenwylie4093]

Looks good! Tempeh doesn't get enough love. :-)

[@sebrinadickerson3341]

Yeah...but, that bitter weird aftertaste...how do you get rid of it? It's why I can't and don't eat tempeh.

[@kajraske2002]

Used to eat so much tempeh as a kid, every time I try to make it nowadays it's so weirdly crunchy.

[@Mialuvsveggies]

I like tofu, but I LOVE tempeh

[@willparkinson633]

We’ve tried tempeh several times and can’t get to liking it. Not sure if it’s a taste or texture thing, but we find it unpleasant. I’m hoping it’s because we’re doing it wrong.

[@veggieterry8853]

@1:14 louder for all the people in the back! 🤣

[@SauceStache]

I originally had this part much louder and WAY longer hahaha it was really intense so I cut it hahah

[@debbieguthrie2307]

Awe, you have a house hippo. It's cute. I will try tempeh again. I've never seasoned it an maybe that's why it got a bad rating from me.

[@andreabellini6796]

I love tempeh

[@jakecoventry9004]

I just can't get into tempeh. I keep tasting it way after I have eaten it. Maybe I need to try to do something with it before I eat it.

[@rafiy7150]

you gotta look it up "tempe bacem", tho all the recipes on the internet are in Indonesian

[@KilanEatsandDrinks]

You know you don't have to eat everything Asian with chopsticks, right? 😂 We Indonesians eat tempeh with spoon and fork or just with bare hands. It's normal not to fall in love with tempeh right away, as a child I didn't really like tempeh but now I like it a lot. I think it’s my duty to warn vegans/vegetarians who have never tried tempeh that you shouldn't expect tempeh to taste like a meat substitute, because it just doesn't taste like meat. In Indonesia where tempeh is from, vegetarianism/veganism is not really a thing, so it's normal for us to eat tempeh with meat and/or offal. Just appreciate tempeh as it's meant to be, not as a substitute for anything else. It’s versatile enough that you can have it with vegetables, rice, bread, etc. Cheers!

[@Botanifiles]

Trader Joes has Tempeh 8oz for like $2.29

[@AdvocateInertia]

Can we talk about the popcorn?

[@Objectivityiskey]

Wow, this guy use to be on the thinker side. Look at you now! The next step is to start lifting.

[@TUG657]

The tempeh taste is sometimes an issue. This looks promising though!

[@SauceStache]

Yeah I think if it is too strong for you (which it totally can be) boiling it with a bit of salt at first really helps knock that out and make it even more mild. If you havnt tried that it really changes the game.

[@MysticScapes]

Btw, for everyone's knowledge, tempeh is already cooked. It's fermented cooked soya beans. So even if you stir-fry it for less than 10 minutes, it's still fine. You can even eat it right away, but flavour wise is not recommended, so some spices will be great!

[@keto-rl2ce]

I love it so much I make my own so I eat some Unpasteurized every day for over a year now & it has really calmed my lifelong, chronic IBS into remission. I do cook most of my dishes but unpasteurized has both the pre & pro biotics fr it. LOVE IT! Great video here btw 🎉

[@diahdwiarti]

I sometimes it tempe just like that.

[@wakilorokunle9650]

Is soy healthy?

[@rusticcloud3325]

Why wouldn't it?

[@pauldevlin6382]

Sadly I’ve been violently ill on more than one occasion when eating tempeh and I don’t really know why. I used to really like it. I’m fine will all other soy products so a bit weird really …

[@rusticcloud3325]

Probably some rate of allergy. You can stop eating tempe if that is the case. Remember, tempe is still a fermented product

[@Jacksirrom]

I just cooked this and it is so dry. The idea of topping it with popcorn is deranged.

[@lettytrev8718]

Do you have delicious dressing that aren’t made from cashews

[@caegi137]

I would eat it all the time if it was cheaper

[@alyssasimon3940]

recipe?

[@michaelworsham2724]

Tempeh makes a good fake tuna sandwich spread.

[@Butterflyneverlands]

My problem with tempeh is it tastes bitter to me. That said I eat it anyway but not enough, like once a month.

[@gracenote108]

You have to steam the bitterness out. What you can do is just take a pan, add some water in it, then add the tempeh and cover the pan so the steam doesn't escape. Or use a pot if you don't have a pan with a cover.

[@rusticcloud3325]

For some reason Indonesian-made tempe that I always eat never tastes bitter. I don't really understand what's going on

[@nandenayo3_catsandraw]

yorgunluk fatique, vibegar sirke

[@GloriaBrown-b8c]

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[@ry90744]

I’ve been making tempeh wrong all this time

[@SauceStache]

Oh no?! Was it tasty? I dont think there is a wrong way unless its coming out bad

[@cycyj847]

Im gonna try tempeh again, i tried once and did not like it

[@NukeEmRico]

Reminds me of a PayDay bar

[@gratefulgoddess420]

Been eating it for 38 years....

[@pac1811]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@SauceStache]

Thank you!!

[@hectorvasquez690]

I’m plant based but tempeh is not for me, really don’t like it but thanks for trying

[@errorerror1337]

omg it has protein?!?!? it must be good 🙄