What the HFIL Happened to Wonder Egg Priority?

[@MarcusFigueras]

Spoilers but I don't know how this show went from "what are we truly fighting for? Are we saving these people for the greater good or because they're a reflection of our guilt over those we have failed?" To "your pet is dead and we're explaining shit that didn't need to be explained"

[@MarcusFigueras]

Like, this show had a perfect trajectory to finish up after the part where the first dead girl that got brought back got turned into mist with like the idea of like "they're gone but their life lives on within you and the guilt will never subside completely but closure is still possible" but instead more trauma

[@xNico1412]

Granted I am not using this as an excuse for the bad ending, however the Director of Wonder Egg got hospitalised twice during production and then a few hours later rushed straight back to the studio to work on Wonder Egg...

[@freshlymemed5680]

Not completely unheard of in a time crunching industry like Anime or heck even Manga.

[@AD-lh3jk]

Jesus Japan needs a break, no wonder they’re trialling a 4 day work week

[@riley8385]

@@AD-lh3jk Automation makes the 4 hour work week almost inevitable eventually, all around the world. Either that or more and more people will have to settle for starvation level wages.

[@andresacosta5318]

@@AD-lh3jk if they bring their 5 day work week down to a 9-5 that would be a huge move. and like a genuine 9-5, no expectation of overtime or anything like that. even on a "5 day work week" many companies expect employees to come on saturdays to do who the fuck knows cuz you gotta be a "good worker" i love japan, but id never work there.

[@Spaceman2921]

Doesn't that happen in every Japanese office?

[@nocturnalcove9736]

If they cut out the Frill section, left the lore foggy and had the girls face their alternative selves who did go through with their suicide, then the show would have worked. Facing yourself to be the final goal into getting your friend back. Edit after 2 years: Yep. Giving it thought after finding this video again, the story's final theme should be you can't bring people back from the dead, no matter how hard you try. You have learn to live your own life and accept the deaths as a part of it.

[@griamore1501]

yeah they could have used that time to properly wrap up the story

[@jill8980]

I thought they did that with the Ai girl on one episode?

[@lettuce7835]

I also wish that their friends also didn't come back as a way to show how permanent suicide can be, being a permanent solution to a temporary problem with no way to revert it

[@kr86_yhong32]

@@lettuce7835 you probably didn't watch the special

[@sourpatchkids351]

@@lettuce7835 same! even from a narrative standpoint, i think the friends coming back gave them even LESS closure than if they'd just been able to accept the fact that their friends were dead and not coming back, and move on together. like, look at ai -- she did all of that work for koito, and she didn't even recognize her! their friends not coming back could have been a good thing for their character growth, but them coming back really harmed the girls and their relationships.

[@4RCH4NGEL]

The whole “neiru is AI” storyline was so pointless it’s actually kinda funny

[@griamore1501]

finally someone in the comments points it out, i wish more videos pointed out how dumb that plot twist was

[@4RCH4NGEL]

@@griamore1501 right, it literally impacts the whole story and yet it was barely touched on

[@RappingNinja]

Is she though? Honestly it seems like a logical leap that only Rika makes.

[@v6790]

She's an AI? Didn't pick up on that.

[@kr86_yhong32]

@@RappingNinja i thought the parallel kotobuki in the special ep said that she in this world made neiru?

[@diegomedeiros456]

Frill and the family should never exist, it would fix 70% of the problems, if they just keep the girls fighting and after the girlf dissapeared, the protagonists finally accept their deaths, making the whole experience more "teraupetic", like this is the way the 2 manequins try help people deal with deaths, keep only thant, no robots, no butterfly monsters.....

[@insertcoolnamelater9334]

Absolutely!

[@hexcodeff6624]

I thought the plot line was really exiting and pretty scary. Maybe include it in another way and it would have gotten more people on board.

[@kilroyfrills3084]

@@hexcodeff6624 the only it could’ve worked with that included is if they had more episodes to work it in. The 12-13 episodes didn’t really fit it in right, I think if they had 20+ it could have worked to throw the AI and shit in

[@sediew]

The frill idea was better for another anime. It was a good episode on its own but terrible for WEP

[@teetheluchador]

Glad you didn’t write this

[@mikaylaschroeder9698]

I genuinely feel so bad for all of the animators. They didn’t deserve this.

[@johnnoahdeandres9458]

Same they deserve better

[@perhaps5095]

they were good animators too, like the animation in this show was so unnaturally smooth (unnatural as in not normal according to other animes) and the fight scenes were well done as well. Makes for some good sakuga MADs...

[@hexcodeff6624]

They have earned many people's respect and attention because of this. Hobbes Sakuga even made a 15 minute tribute for the show. Compare this to SAO: War of Underworld, where the animation must have taken way more time and just looks really bad and uninspired for the most part, leaving you with basically nothing to appreciate. In that case, the animators truly got snobbed by the directors who didn't know how to put their production value to good use, leaving the animators having to work hours and hours for an empty product.

[@raphaeltobing843]

Fyi, 1 cloverworks animator got hospitalized when working in this show

[@kevinclydeeguia2543]

@@raphaeltobing843 Jesus christ...

[@Alufear]

I chose Sk8 the Infinity over Wonder Egg to watch this season and I cannot believe Shonen Tony Hawk Bro Skater was actually the correct choice.

[@brandonw6139]

Cap. The last episode was messy but definitely way better than sk8

[@nico2electric374]

Time to finish sk8

[@xk445g]

Featuring Skateboarding Matador Dio

[@imanuellaakp4233]

The last few episodes of sk8 were rushed and disappointed me a little but I enjoyed it better than Wonder Egg tbh.

[@sleepysera]

I started both, very sure I'd love WEP and pretty convinced Sk8 was just gonna be some low quality girl bait anime 🤷‍♀️ ...then I found myself desperately waiting for the next Sk8 episode every single week 😅

[@SaiyanHeretic]

I eagerly await the announcement of Wonder Egg Priority: Sisterhood.

[@Nino-pn4vc]

Underrated comment

[@UpwardNinja]

nice FMA reference 😛

[@nanamikentosfavoritebread9170]

😭😭😭

[@Webmaster4531]

@@UpwardNinja Oh, I didn't get it until I read your reply.

[@awakeneddio6012]

Doesn't work. The anime is the source material.

[@RGC_animation]

You know why episode 8 was a recap? It's the show's way of telling you "Remember those good episodes one last time, because we're gonna throw them out the window".

[@froggycolouring]

422 likes and no replies? Let me fix that-

[@gameinstein]

Wonder Egg Priority: An anime about suicides that ironically killed itself.

[@walesjedi9217]

I'd say the irony is more that it's about *preventing* suicide and it killed itself, a minor but important difference I think

[@xivering]

WHEEZE

[@ousou78]

Ayo!

[@ansam1639]

No.

[@peanutkix]

Honestly, if they had just cut all the AI stuff and Frill plot line, I could’ve accepted the wonder egg system as an unexplained phenomena being used as a vehicle to explore stories about girls’ suicide. It didn’t need some sci-fi bs backstory that was way too complex to pull off in 12 episodes. (Maybe if they had simplified it like Madoka did, but honestly I think Madoka’s smooth handling of the world changing sci-fi magical girl system was lightning in a bottle.) I think episode 12 would’ve been a fine open ended finale if all that stuff had been cut.

[@FlutterSwag]

yep frill wasnt needed at all, well, other than to set up a sequel antagonist

[@maadtee6281]

But godzills singular point did that difference was that was its premise from the beginning and didn't bait and switch close to the end

[@Latronibus]

My take was that they were trying way too hard to "earn" the comparisons to Madoka rather than just running with the good things they were doing already. Really, just playing the concept of the first few episodes straight, or else tossing in a very simple twist like "your friends aren't actually coming back but now you have each other", would have been plenty subversive enough. I don't really think it ever had the tremendous potential that Geoff claimed that it did in his Winter 2021 preview video, but I still think it had a lot of potential and just squandered most of it. And really the squandering started before the scifi BS backstory was introduced. I genuinely cannot see a route from the end of WEP ep7 to a cohesive ending that doesn't feel like it threw some of the ideas away. They were setting up for something sorta like what they did long in advance and they just weren't in any position to pull it off.

[@hermit_crab992]

On your point about Madoka Magica, I would say that the fact that the scifi elements were somewhat indistinguishable from the "magic" elements made it work. While Homura did time travel shenanigans, it wasn't exactly based upon hard science.

[@Tycoondashie]

I wish fantastical media would stop trying to explain everything. They never used to! why do they feel the need to?.

[@Kittyhalk]

Honestly the whole "AI causing teen suicide" reveal was possibly one of the biggest heel turn moments I've ever seen. I remember me and the friend I was watching it with honestly just laughing because of how bizarre it was. Like how are you even supposed to respond to that?

[@insertcoolnamelater9334]

I will try to delete it from my brain cells. Speak after me: "There was never a sci-fi twist in WEP."

[@Whatlander]

It's like they tried to backpedal from the whole "girl suicides are emotional and boy suicides are rational" moment, but had no clue was was wrong with that statement to begin with.

[@MysteriousRed23]

@@Whatlander Glad you brought that up because that statement was kind of yikes…

[@tsg_frank5829]

I think they did kinda sprinkle little hints of a sci-fi aspect beforehand but didn't really have time to go into that early on, so it was forced out in the end

[@irisaferg2524]

@@tsg_frank5829 what hints are you speaking of? Not trying to be rude, just curious.

[@Anita-bs2cr]

The opportunity for something great was there, but the moment it became a "the AI made the girls commit suicide" made me a bit upset, it completely took away from the personal experiences all these girls in the dream world had dealing with some pretty shitty situations. It felt like all the empathy I built up and anticipation to finally see into the minds of these girls who killed themselves was lost. So much potential and I generally feel sad that the ball was dropped But as a side note, this anime has definitely raised the bar for what is possible and I do hope that more anime of this nature is created with more well rounded endings

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

I feel like a lot of writers need to learn to separate their concepts in order to give them time to breathe Girls dealing with suicide in dream worlds 2 guys building a robot kid that turns out to be bad(which is strangely similar to the webcomic "if ai ruled the world) Someone using near death experiences to hop between realities Are all very cool concepts that deserve to be explored thoroughly and not brushed off as an episode's b plot It's very interesting seeing professional writers making mistakes that a couple of casual writers have already dealt with in their stories, like how matrix revolution had 2 of their 5 main characters have basically no dialogue because the director didn't cut out the unnecessary characters

[@matthewwhiting255]

What irks me the most is how Mr. Sawaki is first portrayed as a sketchy guy who undoubtedly has a hand in koitos suicide but in reality was a cool dude all along, and that koito was just framing him as a pedophile rapist for no reason, and then leaping off a fucking roof

[@Sleepdriver1984]

Things like this actually happen, why would you rather be reassured about the red herring you had been tricked into initially instead of enjoying a good plot twist as it is? Narratives don't have to adhere to ideologies, they have to entertain.

[@annonymously331]

What you were seeing was from Ai’s perspective which probably exaggerated how sketchy he actually was

[@IchibanOjousama]

Ai loved Sawaki, Koibito loved Ai

[@IchibanOjousama]

​@@annonymously331Ai loved Sawaki and was jealous

[@griamore1501]

When Wonder Egg isn't the Priority

[@elysp940]

i like how this comment is found in the middle of two long paragraphed comments

[@baghouse2678]

That kinda sums up what went wrong with the show lol

[@averagerobloxplayer5311]

Who up wonderin' their priorities

[@sparkk2871]

I really think they should've erased the whole Frill plot and instead make the whole thing about Acca and Ura-acca wanting to know what drove their daughter/niece to suicide. Frill just kinda ruins the whole point?

[@mayab4575]

Also Acca and Ura-Acca should have been a gay couple. Kidding in that, but I agree with you.

[@sediew]

@@mayab4575 bruh they were brothers

[@kida5020]

@@mayab4575 dude aren't they brothers?

[@mayab4575]

@@sediew Frill calls them husbands 12 minutes into episodes 11.

[@Quaniix]

@@mayab4575 or maybe they are just homies raising a kid together? Like it doesn’t have to be about that other stuff dog...

[@PrinceMallow]

SPOILERS: Don't get me started on how the reason Koito, the person Ai went on this entire journey for to begin with, killed herself was because she was mad the teacher wouldn't accept her advances so she started spreading false rape accusations about him on the roof where she accidentally lost her footing, slipped off and died.

[@sazam1966]

Wait, seriously ? I didn't watch it, is it really it ? Just a stupid entitled lying girl dying from an vequally stupid death ? Not even a suicide, then the other girls thinking it was a suicide are misunderstanding the whole situation ? WTF

[@LadyGrayce]

what the fuck?! I didn't watch the OVA, but that is awful

[@SecretIdentityStudio]

Agreed. The show seemed to imply that Sawaki was lying and victim-blaming Koito, but the special goes the other way, and it's gross.

[@Ash_Wen-li]

Hold up, I just realised this: Wouldn't it technically *not* be a suicide then?

[@PrinceMallow]

@@sazam1966 All we have to go on is the teacher's side of the story so he could be lying but it's not pressed any further and just seems to be accepted as the reason. It's really gross.

[@GallowglassVT]

I've never been more disappointed. Like, you have a show with brilliant animation and hefty themes and then just... nothing. It went from psychedelic Persona to just meh in the span of a few episodes.

[@gabetalks9275]

CloverWorks moment

[@danielvergara3677]

It's that much more frustrating and disappointing because it had real potential to be a very good show at the start

[@gabetalks9275]

@@danielvergara3677 TPN: First time?

[@Noanatsuka]

I came here, on episode 7 of this show, because of Clover's recent history, to see if I should continue. And thanks to this, I'm dropping it. It's just, all that build up, those character arcs, wonderful fight scenes, all of that? For basically what amounts to "Oh shit we're on a deadline, write whatever comes to mind!"? Really? Ugh. Hopefully their love lives aren't like their recent trend of animes, otherwise I totes would understand why they're partners are annoyed as much as we are.

[@ketchup5253]

But persona is already psychedelic

[@veronicachandler1314]

Remember folks the real enemy of this show isn't the creepy teacher painting drawings of his female students alone in a classroom, but the overly emotional girl who's crazy and emotional because she's a 14 year old girl and that's how 14 year old girls are. The end. Also is no one going to mention how this show managed to strip the suicide victims of the small amount of autonomy they had because they didn't even commit suicide out of their own volition but because of an AI?

[@nyar511]

Tf

[@Goldenkitten1]

I was almost about to go watch the show after what he had said and just accept the ending wasn't going to be great and then he mentioned Frill, and the hard breaks went on that idea.

[@lillyk.265]

No literally! Why did the show never even mention how creepy it was for this teacher to be drawing and painting his female students like?!

[@EeveelutionStorm]

@@lillyk.265 And the fact the teacher was dating Ai's Mom who looks JUST LIKE AI. Like, it was fucking creepy.

[@Msanimefanatic25]

@@Goldenkitten1 i mean the first 7 episodes are awesome! id say watch those and ignore the rest

[@clockworkclementine4136]

I mean, the whole Frill thing could've been interesting, because the Acca's have lots of misconceptions about teenage girls, and of course they would say shit like "girls are more prone to attempt suicide in a fit a emotion" or whatever. Them thinking this, and creating Frill as the "perfect, moody teenage girl" and her ending up being jealous of other girls and pushing them to suicide would make sense then, and her being the final bad guy, had they not dropped the ball on us, would've been interesting and fitting. The real teenage girls having to defeat the idea adult men have of a teenage girl. Still would've undermined the whole "these dead girls have been heavily abused and in need of protection" point tho, but still. That or just, not explain the wonder egg system, and it just be a catharsis of sort for them, a thing to help them heal through helping other girls, face their trauma and building friendship, and the girls they wanted to save coming back to life just, signifying they were ready to move on ? IDK, I think a story about healing from trauma with battle imagery would've been neat. Also the Koito plotline ? Wasted. How the hell do you build up a character like the teacher to have such terrible vibes seemingly on accident ? The dude was giving me the creeps and it leads to... nothing apparently, him being innocent and it was all a girls faults for wanting attention ? that's... very tone deaf. this finale was... incredibly dissapointing to say the least.

[@mayanur8399]

actually yea, i made the same conclusion too, but i did wish that they make a remake of this....i really liked the show and its one of the few that satisfy my psychidelic dream craving -mononoke- i hate how rushed and uninspired the ending was....hell i didnt watch the last ep till last week cuz i was so annoyed. having acca and ura acca be the antagonists all along would be a better ending

[@SecretIdentityStudio]

The special was a huge disappointment and kind of retroactively ruined what would have been a fantastic show. Like I've said, it was half recap, half sequel hook, with nothing resembling a conclusion. More importantly, it reversed on a lot of the themes of the show, especially regarding Koito and Frill.

[@AxxLAfriku]

WOAH WOAH WOAH!!! Let me get this perfectly straight: You comment something that is completely unrelated to the fact that I have two HAZARDOUSLY HOT girlfriends? Considering that I am the unprettiest KZbinr worldwide, it is really incredible. Yet you did not mention it at all. I am VERY disappointed, dear sec

[@kobochaos]

Like I thought it was gonna end with some huge battle with Ai and Neiru fighting frill and sequel hooking us with all the parallel world stuff that happened. Maybe them getting new gear or something

[@richardnuggets9531]

17703 classic

[@ziploc819]

@@AxxLAfriku Jesus christ, get a life

[@RyoHazuki224]

Yeah, I was more disappointed by the recap aspect of the episode. Also to me it really felt like bait for a sequel that will probably never happen. The series itself is fascinating, and while i'm not as disappointed as some in the revelation that all the suicides are caused by some AI teenager (they probably wanted to write a narrative that gave a fantastical and sci-fi explanation rather than address the issue with something from reality, probably to avoid possibly triggering some viewers that might be dealing with suicidal tendancies if they didn't handle it well) I still overall enjoyed the series. I also wont say that the ending ruined the series for me. Endings have to be truly bad for a whole series or narrative to be ruined for me, and I'm the person that defends the last season of Game of Thrones!

[@thegeekclub8810]

Gee, it almost seems like the problem isn’t that the creatives behind the series didn’t know what they were doing, and more that the current production workflow of the anime industry is inherently incompatible with the time and effort creativity takes to cultivate.

[@kiwiequis4144]

I respect what you're trying to say, but the story absolutely fucked itself and is really horrible in the end regardless of how incompatible the industry is with anime making.

[@thegeekclub8810]

@@kiwiequis4144 I mean, yeah, the story does seem pretty f-cked up, but the fact that the guy was apparently writing it *as it was airing* probably didn’t leave them with a lot of time to ask themselves if what they were writing was respectful and nuanced. That’s what happens when you’re under pressure to crank out work.

[@elcawyo9629]

damn. capitalism.

[@Kage-jk4pj]

Hence the reason anime often latches on to very easy to replicate concepts with an established formula and does them to death. Thats why there are so many isekai anime now and so many ecchi haram and death battle anime in the 2000's. Easy to produce in the limited time frame they have.

[@spreadhappiness3250]

Yes the working conditions were awful that's why I don't blame them at all however we are not forced to like the anime just because of this

[@aaronschmit]

I have to wholeheartedly agree and digest one aspect of Wonder Egg that consistently bugged me about its show: the amount of concepts it kept expanding on without any time to flesh them out properly, all while the episode count was ticking down to the final episodes. It got me concerned that the way they would cohesively tie all the plot threads together would get tangled and mismanaged at some point down the line as they kept going. And the broader the concepts and plot twists they added onto the Big Think Pile of this series, the harder it was to feel confident in how it would all come together. And I am sad to say, I was right in my assumption in the early mid-point of the show. By the end, the explanations and reasoning for everything laughably undermined everything the show was trying to get us excited for. The irony is that a better series would have been one where less was explained. Make it as fever dreamy and poetically charged without anything explained at all, and I feel it would have been a total psychotic acid trip of a show, but thematically it would have all felt all the more bombastic and effective in presenting these core themes. Extreme abstraction kinda served the show a lot more than logic and reasoning behind its plot, so they just ... shoulda gone all in on the creative insanity, y'know? Anyway, I was hesitant about this show's plot, and I am sad I was right to be cautiously optimistic about it. But still, I thoroughly enjoyed what I enjoyed about Wonder Egg, mainly the sakuga and the character growths and themes tackled for most of the episodes. Just a shame for that ending.

[@MarcusFigueras]

Exactly how I feel. I feel like the people behind this show were trying to show how the sausage and the bun were made when just telling us "it's magic tech" would've been fine. Like the general audience is willing to accept that advanced stuff doesn't need to be explained beyond that. We didn't need to get told the backstory on how the machine was made after like 8 episodes focusing on the 4 established characters.

[@kokepasu4583]

Imagine if ikuhara directed it!

[@frankwest5388]

So, the show was written by someone who wanted to show off their grand concepts but didn’t have the patience to give everything its breathing time or didn’t think past the concept stage. Sucks

[@Dracinard]

What, you don't think Paranoia Agent could have been improved if Lil Slugger was actually an army of clones with hyper advanced teleportation equipped skates, and Maromi was a super intelligent AI copy of a little child? I mean, the symbolism's all well and good, but you know dry yet mad scientific explanations are where the real good storytelling lies. Oh, spoilers for Paranoia Agent I guess, neither of those things is true.

[@chaoaretasty]

Madoka was forever ruined when they brought in entropy and didn't spend a whole episode flashback explaining how a Kyubey scientist emotionlessly spent his whole life researching the machine to let them turn emotions in to energy.

[@Rhaynebow]

I’m still disappointed about Koito’s suicide. The show did a great job with Sawaki not actually being a bad person, more just Ai being angry at him for knowing things about Koito that she didn’t and Rika and Neiru making her doubt his intentions. Koito was being bullied for being close to Sawaki and they could have left it at that, but instead SHE was the bad guy. It makes those gentle scenes of her befriending Ai feel incredibly hard to watch because she may not have been genuine. The show was bold enough to NOT have the male teacher be bad, but then had Ai’s best friend use false rape accusations? Koito was already an enigma, but I wouldn’t have taken her as a liar.

[@LvLupXD]

> Sawaki not actually being a bad person Not too sure about that one chief, he has a habit of getting weirdly close to high school girls, which in every instance it happens it ends up torpedoing their mental health

[@Rhaynebow]

@@LvLupXD Weirdly close to high school girls? He was only close with two students the whole show; Koito and Ai. We only saw him hugging Koito with zero context. He was only close to Ai because Koito was her only friend and had to check on her after she killed herself. He saw her as a muse for his art because while Ai thought her eyes were terrible, he saw them as beautiful and wanted her to feel the same and embrace that. Note that Neiru and Rika both have strained relationships with their parents/fathers. Of course they would call Sawaki trying to help his students as him being a creep. Momoe, his niece, calls BS on that. Ai’s fight in her dreamworld against Sawaki pretty much solidifies that he was never a bad dude. Were his actions weird? Yeah, but the show went out of its way to show the real, twisted shit other male characters did, like scummy executives molesting girls, kendo teachers misgendering and raping students and insane cult leaders. A teacher painting a student as a confident adult because said student could very well off themselves before they reached that age, while still odd, just doesn’t classify him as bad dude to me.

[@minxxd]

@@Rhaynebow he’s basically obsessed with Ai because of how good she’ll look when older. He even got with Ai’s mom who also happens to look slightly like her as well, he seems like a creep to me

[@Rhaynebow]

@@minxxd That’s an understandable take. But I’m just finding it very weird and frustrating that when the show doesn’t show Sawaki doing anything illegal, when Ai, the MC, denies being in love with him and says outright that he’s not a bad guy, that so many viewers still got quite heated that he wasn’t a bad guy. I thought it was quite refreshing to see a male teacher NOT be the grooming perv, especially in a show where most of the villains were powerful men abusing the people who trusted them. Sawaki could have easily been one of them and I’m glad he wasn’t because that would have been such bad writing and a lame extra pile of suck to drop on Ai who just lost her best friend.

[@nicolamutton]

@@minxxd a teacher close to children who could have told

[@lukefranzen6670]

I also didn’t like how it glorified Rika’s cutting. Specifically when she said “I’ll keep hurting myself so that I’m going to live” and while I agree that cuts are nothing to be ashamed of, self harm is not a viable or a healthy coping mechanism. I may have misinterpreted the message, but this is a topic that should have no room for misinterpretation.

[@puthypicasso640]

It triggered me a lot when she said that. I understand where she was coming from but having everyone around her ignoring the seriousness of her self-harming, it makes it look like no one cares when you self harm. How in episode 3 when Ai looks at Rika's cuts, it's completely ignored. It's like they added self-harming just to get the viewers relate to that character but then threw it all under a bus.

[@Zarastro54]

Yeah it was never mentioned again. This show ties up its loose ends with rotting bits of bacon rather than actual bows.

[@vaeris_xyz]

idt they really glorified it imo to me it just felt like she said that bc it was her only coping mechanism left and doing it to live is a lot better than giving up and dying idk

[@Zarastro54]

@@vaeris_xyz Yeah but then there was never a resolution beyond that where she realized that that wasn’t a good coping mechanism.

[@chadlikespasta3142]

Honestly yeah. The message I got was "cutting is bad, but it's a better alternative than dying" which is really bad because it basically gives it the OK as a coping mechanism. Go ahead and cut to stop yourself from suiciding apparently, nothing wrong with that

[@Will-jg2zs]

Me, after watching the finale: "My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined."

[@gabetalks9275]

Again 😂

[@bencebotye3904]

Based on your tumbnail, I would hug you. Just so you can know!

[@superstarultra28]

Now where have I seen that before? (Looks at thumbnail)

[@ManlyTear]

I can hardly be disappointed when I found it consistent to itself from the start (wasn't really that into it either), it tried to tackle serious issues with ridiculous "eggs" & battling these demons in a dream world. It simply played off that and pushed it a bit further. Tomozaki was my actual surprise of winter 2021. It takes what you'd expect of a generic premise, but presents quite a solid story of improvement. While it'll always remain a niche story, it tackles the MC's issues & development quite well and has a steady build-up towards it's conclusion, all without WEP's pretentiousness which ends up collapsing on itself.

[@kusogakirenfir]

I could say the same for the anime in which your picture came from. 😞

[@TheThunderbirdRising]

You forgot to mention that they spent most of the show heavily queer-coding Ai and Koito's relationship. And also most of the show implying sexual assault/harassment by the creepy male teacher, or at least the very least some sort of weird unhealthy relationship, leading to Koito's suicide. Then in the final episode they reveal that Koito actually just slipped and feel off the roof while yelling false rape accusations about that male teacher after trying and failing to seduce him, which is apparently a Thing she has a history of doing. So apparently she's just a Bad Person(tm) and Ai can just be fine with her not being in her life anymore. All that potentially interesting character drama gets thrown out the window as pretty much the only story element the finale *does* wrap up

[@mothersbasement]

The only... kinda redeeming part of that, is that alt-reality AI's demon version of the teacher implies that maybe Koito was telling the truth and nobody listened? But also the show never questions him being like "yeah I love your mom with all my heart" so I really don't know what to make of it. It was about the shittiest possible way to wrap up Koito's character arc

[@theMoporter]

Releasing that at the end of Pride Month felt like a hate crime.

[@furiouslactator9478]

I'm glad I saw this comment because I was 9 episodes in and was starting to feel the anime going in the opposite direction to what I was thinking it was going. I knew they were going to subvert expectations with the teacher plot but to see that they literally just when "UNO REVERSE CARD! It was the kid's fault(kinda) and not the teacher." It kinda sucks that a lot of people hate the ending so I'm just going to put what memory i have of this anime and put it in the memory vault. And I guess I'm not going to finish watching it and instead will be watching To Your Eternity because I just watched the first episode and it seems cool.

[@CaptCozy]

I am so glad you wrote this. I avoided this show past episode 2 because I was worried that the reasoning behind Koito's suicide would hit FAR too close to home...but realizing it was handled this poorly makes me glad I didn't watch it firsthand. I would have been several shades of furious.

[@Dash-lx4ng]

I mean I think I could see what they were trying to say there are (a few) people out there that actually do that but I mean did they really think this wouldn't offend or at least feel distasteful to viewers who went through this type of stuff.

[@juantsu2000]

I would've been completely okay if the show had just focused on these girls' recoveries. The whole "lets explain all of this because everything HAS to be explained apparently" was suuuper disappointing. I never really cared about who these two weird scientists guys were. They should have taken cues from Dark Souls when it comes to letting the viewers interpret the "lore" of the show.

[@Macrochenia]

Totally agree. The explanation was not needed in any way, and didn't pay off at all.

[@TheJabics]

Lol dark souls has lore? I thought it was just dodge roll and slash your way to enemies with no real rhyme or reason other than the pursuit of git gud

[@David-uy5nr]

@@Macrochenia It just make the anime even more confuse, because of frill.

[@Macrochenia]

@@David-uy5nr Exactly.

[@theguyyouhate]

i actually found the episode focused on them to be quite amazing. i also felt like i had just started to watch an entirely different anime, which is about the last thing i want to feel near the end of of a series i'm enjoying.

[@umi_wowy]

I completely agree with everything you said but I just wanted to say that Neiru in my opinion is exetremely relatable to people on the austistic spectrum, as someone whose on the spectrum myself it was really comferting watching her have friends that just like to be around her and it was really upsetting for me when it turned out she was just a robot.

[@key37raminus]

Yaaaaaay........

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

The classic "the autistic person is just a robot" never gets old because it wasn't that good to begin with

[@Dangeru12]

Exactly. I thought she was neat and interesting despite her being a copy of the "low empathy, high intelligence" side of the autism spectrum that we see the most. Part of that is that it's rarely seen on a girl character and thought it was nice to finally see a slightly different perspective. But naaahh, low empathy, highly intelligent autistic people aren't people, they're just robots or aliens, or something inhuman altogether. -_-

[@arrowtotheknees7416]

Yes!!!! I can't agree with you more. It hurt to watch her just be reduced to an "AI ghost" after all the character development Neiru and the friend group went through :(

[@phoenixero8161]

I don't think I've ever in my life watched an anime and thought to myself while watching it "This is a 10/10" before. To then see it just devolve in the last few episodes was heartbreaking.

[@NucleaRaptor]

Literally Erased, though the drop-off wasn't as catastrophic.

[@phoenixero8161]

@@NucleaRaptor Have yet to watch that one. Scared to, considering what I hear about it. I don't wanna be disappointed again :(

[@fatalblue]

@@phoenixero8161 Its nowhere near as bad as Wonder Egg imo. In fact I didn't think it was bad at all and it remains one of my favorite anime to recommend to people who might want to watch a short mystery thriller type thing. A better example imo is Babylon. The direction after ep 7 was devastating lol. Similar to Wonder Egg it strayed away from the part of the story that made it great to another element that was better left in the background in its last few episodes.

[@spellshellmobile2046]

I had the same reaction to "Erased" plot

[@DeckDogs4Life]

The special that ended the season was especially really bad.

[@samshapira8295]

It's funny, comparing this to shows like Oddtaxi. Oddtaxi started with a somewhat weird concept, like Wonder Egg Priority, but stayed consistently amazing from start to finish. Huh. Funny that all the furry anime stay consistent.

[@bruno17289]

Beastars manga drops the ball hard at the end IMO

[@carloscamargo4797]

@@bruno17289 Not really, I thought it was a pretty okay ending.

[@gabehere]

@@carloscamargo4797 pretty okay at best, compared to the heights of it's preceding arcs is not good enough. It left a bland aftertaste, which is very unfortunate.

[@johnterrencesmith2148]

If you can commit to being to being a furry you can commit to anything.

[@ClintEPereira]

*cough* BNA's ending *cough*

[@MementoMadi]

I haven’t watched the show, but I have to get this off my chest. The main character looks like anime Coraline. Even her purse and hair clip have the same placement.

[@pinkjessjmb]

I had the same exact thinking when I first saw her! I even thought it was a direct reference to Coraline being that the show revolves around dreamworlds and working through your problems in there

[@sheepersjeepers4953]

Original line of thinking

[@key37raminus]

THANK YOU

[@wayawuffin]

also in the case of koito........ if we take what the teacher said at face value, there's obviously something Going On (internally and/or externally) for a 14-year-old girl to be doing this once, let alone multiple times. something that could've been explored (in this show about trauma and teen girls...) had that weird ass relationship not been used as a GOTCHA! at the end of the series.

[@griamore1501]

they just threw it there and if i didnt look at the screen at least for that 3 seconds i probably would have missed it

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

Ngl 14 year old girl driving teachers to suicide because of her obsession with them sounds like a great concept for a horror anime but it definitely needs careful handling in order to not cause any irl harm to rape victims It's sorta like that "killer who crossdress in order to kill/rape his victims" is an interesting idea until you remember that trans people have been considered for most of history ever since the term trans has existed

[@hannahdurnal292]

I do like the thought of the discussion of oversexualized teen girls through media and anime, yet the way they executed it was very disrespectful and took all weight away from the suicide that the girls commited. Because if it was influenced by AI, their mentality wasn't bad enough to evoke such a drastic response. It makes them seem like victims of murder, not their own demons. It narrows the discussion on the mental health of teen girls and the experiences they go through in their loss of innocence. The robot girl thing could have been such an amazing and dynamic character if handled correctly.

[@isabellamorris7902]

This was such a weird experience to watch as it came out. I remember watching it with my friend and going "...*another* Neiru focus episode?? The other characters have barely got enough screentime to hold up their own arcs, which are more interesting." I'm also sad that what I thought was 100% a misdirect - "girls can't control their emotions blah blah" - actually seemed to pan out in the end. I could have sworn the director said that line wasn't supposed to be taken seriously at the time too. For a show that deals so extensively with adult victimisation of adolescents, that's an *extremely* bad misstep.

[@anonybelle]

After hearing about the ending reveals, it seems to me that someone felt it was too icky and sad to let the issues plaguing young girls to be shown so directly. We don’t want to talk about changing society for the better, so we just explain the poor weak little girls suicides away as an evil AI influence. Okay.

[@kittykat896]

Exactly! Im getting strong suss feelings of censorship of its main premise in regards to its suicidal themes being thwarted by higher yup men in suits, who didn't look too kindly at the message the story was conveying and stepped in to detract from it (because if there was a rewrite, having a recap makes total sense, not to mention that after said recap is when we get the out of left field story change into sci-fi clusterfuckery) .... Im really giving those who own and manage Cloverworks (Aniplex, the entertainment anime arm of Sony, no less) the side eye from now on....😑

[@kittykat896]

@Teofilus Setia Wahyudi just because there's anime thats been able to tell a story that is against the grain and controversial, doesn't automatically prove that other works are bestowed free reign to make any content at the discretion of the staff. And it's quite well known that in both the anime and manga industry, depending on the particular producers/publishers who bought rights to the story from creators, that they have stepped in to make certain decisions on whether or not, something needs to be changed within the story. Happens a lot. That's what the role of a 'production committee' of an anime is for.

[@zacharyalfano9846]

You have to read the exposition to actually get any of the dark soul lore

[@user-or5pe1yp5q]

I honestly feel like it would have been better if it where a supernatural show. It kinda went downhill for me when they felt the need to have a scientific explanation for everything

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

True like NOT EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE REVEALED OR GROUNDED it could just be a unknown part of our world or just mysterious

[@emmaadewole3252]

Literally, the questions left unanswered are part of what made it so good

[@sarafontanini7051]

precisely. Having the problem be LITERALLY man made was not a good idea. Sure, they could have a main antagonist, just not something as silly as 'evil AI with random magic powers'

[@universalspaceexpeditioner8259]

The people literally added science fiction to a Magical Girl show and they added many genres of science fiction like Artificial Intelligence, Gynoids, insect animal eating gynoids, A.I. monsters that jump to the dream world of parallel worlds. It got ridiculous for a small series.

[@criticaldiamonds]

Wonder Egg Priority really feels like a 24-episode storyline was made, then COVID hit, and rather than split the story over 2 cours, the production committee decided it would be better to shove the ending into the 12 episode run. The change from the first arc to the second is so drastic I believe they simply deleted the content that would fill say, episodes 10-15, which would bring the two arcs together in a meaningful way before diving into the scifi stuff that would be the conclusion. The result is the jump cut to a time-squeezed ending we got. There should be (needs to be) a director's cut (or something of that nature) so we can properly experience the story as it was intended, and not the pandemic chaos we got. (Still giving it a 10/10 on MAL though, the ending can't hurt the perfection of those first 10 episodes)

[@Guyzap3]

I agree those first eps were so good! And I gave the show a 9. Now I'm scared to watch the special. And also the more I think about it the more I'm like "is this a 9? They skipped so much and the ending was unsatisfying". So now I'm questioning my love of this show

[@ShadowNerd92]

However that was also the problem with the Episode 13 special because it was marketed as that Directors cut special that would tie everything together and give either a conclusion or jumping off point, but just ended with a whimper imo. This is from someone who waited until the special ending to watch everything.

[@ayushmeena780]

Ending can make a series from 10 to 1 for me So 1 in mal by me

[@wulfson]

I feel more like it was a 8 or 9 episode storyline that, rather than just going with it, they felt the need to stretch to hit 12, but then flubbed it hard.

[@sediew]

Unfortunately I see the ending as part of the show so it can’t be 10. For me it used to be a 8-9….but Then it dropped to 7… And now a 6.

[@seekittycat]

I wonder if this director really thinks "girls are more emotionally impulsive then boys" and other such unproven social stereotypes. Along with the whole second half of the series it made me question his ideas. If this is his idea of how humans work I don't think I'll ever be a fan no matter how experienced he gets.

[@Blabla12345Q8]

They just said that male and female suicides are different, which happens to be true. Look it up.

[@wheediesmanchild5229]

I was so confused when the show said this because they literally had an episode about being trans… and how the hell does that figure into any of this being a ‘girls thing’? It completely negated the point being made.

[@Dtoszi]

@@wheediesmanchild5229 it’s kinda funny that it gets worse the more you think about it. The director by having that said trans character implies that because they still suicided (pushed by Frill as we know now) and their whole appearance in that afterlife straight up means the director’s opinion is: “yeah trans doesn’t matter, they still had a ‘girl’ brain and go to ‘girl’ afterlife. Literally worse the more you think about the implications lol

[@Quarataia]

When the episode originally aired, I believed that Acca and Uracca were creatures imitating the human body, it made sense for them to just be so out of touch with human behavior, they just couldn't think like a human, but now it feels weird.

[@botanical_chloride_6471]

I also hated how the one girl that was portrayed lacking emotion was just written off as some genius clone AI or whatever it was in the end rather than delving deeper into the implications of potential trauma that could have caused such closed off emotions and logical ideologies.

[@CamTheCoolness]

You didn’t know? This is Evangelion 4.0 + 1.0: Egg Upon a Time

[@NTWoo95]

You Can (Not) Scramble

[@redfrog9717]

This Is (Not) The Egg

[@davebanaster8904]

Comparing this to Eva is an insult to Eva

[@shaedcloak5803]

@@davebanaster8904 I heard the rebuilds are absolute trash, so it that not true?

[@MrStath1986]

@@shaedcloak5803 For the most part, they're fine. They've made some unusual choices - the inclusion of Mari is utterly unnecessary - but they work well if you consider them either an AU or some manner of repeating cycle in Eva's universe.

[@MopedOfJustice]

"Extra Drippy Magical Girls" sounded a lot different in your head than it did out loud

[@statesminds]

Hahahah omg

[@nathan8750]

bruh xddd

[@Dash-lx4ng]

@khandwa style Yessssss

[@gidi3250]

Yea it's a lot better in your head

[@senata.s3034]

@White Lives Don’t Matter not the usual water tho

[@wolflink9000]

Ep 1-7 was 10/10 verging on my favorite show of all time so a super sloppy ending is extraordinarily painful :(.

[@gabetalks9275]

CloverWorks moment

[@PapaNierForReplicant]

I'd say Ep 10 is great as well, though I wished the anime explained why Kaoru is in a place supposedly exclusive for girls.

[@madkoala2130]

Feels bad, not for this show but also to many, many shows that did the same thing (Re:Creators, Darling and many, many more)

[@Oops-All-Ghosts]

@@PapaNierForReplicant Yeah. Stuff like that makes me nervous the show was just indulging him, vs. actually supporting him.

[@ddchrw]

@@Oops-All-Ghosts Since Ura/Acca made the wonder egg system, I just assumed Kaoru was there because they viewed him as a girl. It would fall in line with the “boy vs girl brains” view, though it isn’t a perfect explanation.

[@MrB10N1CLE]

God, this show and its characters were butchered so thoroughly in just a span of a few episodes, it could've only been pulled off by the same studio that did Promised Neverland SS2.

[@trashwaifu6989]

The way they completely brute forced Momoe out of the story forever at the end of her own episode after doing a pretty damn good job with not only finishing her arc, but handling a trans issue outright in anime and doing it respectfully [minus the demon thing but they are all so damn bad] is ging in my top anime betrayals of all time

[@yaboymart3237]

Wonder Egg feels like they planned out a season 2 in advance, and when production issues indicated that it was extremely unlikely, the creators decided to shove all of season 2 into the last couple of episodes.

[@sarafontanini7051]

andthen not give it a proper ending JUST in case they DO get a second season

[@ioan.c8868]

@@sarafontanini7051 Couldn't agree more, I'd be damned if there won't be a second season

[@universalspaceexpeditioner8259]

This makes sense if you also think that they also planned seasons 3,4,5,6 too but just shoe horned the whole season 2 in the last third of the season they made. Something I actually saw happening again in Trish.

[@clover288]

i feel like that wep is the prime example of being to ambitious and ultimately failing. imo, the show started going downhill when they constantly added more and more; yeah, the concepts were all fun and interesting, but they only made more questions than answers, and continued to not explain anything. it really sucks too. it had so much potential

[@frankwest5388]

Fro what I’ve seen, being ambitious and to be seen as deep seems to be the main driving point behind its writing. No wonder it sucks by the end. They tried to paint a house, where the fundament wasn’t done yet.

[@nicolem9930]

if i’m being honest with you i kinda stopped watching at episode 7 for this reason. it started off really good and while it was confusing i assumed my questions would be answered, but they never were and i think that’s what made me drift away from the show

[@pftburchell5197]

This seems like another great example as to why pushing a project out before it’s done is a bad idea. We need to fix our game industry here in the states as well but damn Japan, help yourself & give people time to create their art so they can make you max profit.

[@dafire9634]

These higherups only understand immediate gain, they are unable to conceive a longterm plan

[@pftburchell5197]

@@dafire9634 That may be true but it’s not what I would expect from the Japanese culture. They’re all about hard work but they also take pride in what they do. So if the product is failing, they aren’t proud of it.

[@greensnake6943]

Dear anime writers, You do not need Si-Fi robots and clones and aliens and secret societies and things like that to complete a story. Sincerely, everyone Cc. Franxx writer and WEP writer

[@jayhoso2267]

Counterpoint: Neon Genesis Evangelion

[@qbel4255]

Another counterpoint: Madoka Magica

[@Brasswatchman]

Yeah, but we like all those things! And completing stories is hard! Plus the deadline was yesterday, so better to just throw a bunch of crap that seems profound together and hope nobody notices we just started writing a totally different show at the end of things. I mean, it's better than nothing, right? ... right? - Most anime writers, probably

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@jayhoso2267 Wich is what Franxx was almost copied from Darling in the franxx is litterally a copy show that stole everything poorly from eva

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@qbel4255 Wonder egg priority is a big madoka magica clone lmfao so thats not even suprising they just failed to make an actual ending

[@tvftw1]

"A 13 episode anime with 2 recap episodes" ...oh god no

[@avramsanders9198]

The trajectory of this show made me so sad. Stunning animation and such a strong start gave it potential to be a top anime but they just ruined it so much with the last couple episodes.

[@whitneystarling351]

Words cannot express, describe, nor elaborate upon how relieved I am to see this video. I watched the last episode of the season in a confused rage, and no less than 3 minutes later did this video pop up. I feel so validated.

[@konradcurze394]

Ugh

[@crisocval143]

Who...

[@crisocval143]

...cares

[@Amy_the_Lizard]

@@crisocval143 Well, clearly you for one since you actually took the time to ask - in two seperate comments no less!

[@cantrip7]

SPOILERS The moment to moment pacing of this show was beautiful. The use of digital animation techniques like tweening, digital filters, the CG... it made stuff I usually complain about seem like the new hotness. Then it had a weird misogynist computer clone murder baby, and I was like, "this doesn't handle themes of suicide in the ways that I hoped." And my brain kinda clocked out for the rest of the show. For a freshman work, though, it's breathtaking. I hope they get another crack at a new IP.

[@nicolehamilton2747]

You know, I think frill could’ve worked…. As a red hearing. Parents don’t like admitting when they do wrong by a child, and considering the fact they abandoned thier humanity and burried the AI child they made without questions kinda makes it’s likely that they weren’t the best people. I wouldn’t be surprised if they had some loofty expectations of her, and constantly compared to her mother. That sorta thing brews doubt and self loathing, even if the person is unaware of it. So instead of thinking whether it’s something they done, they pinned the blame on Frill, the new and fancy ai that they don’t understand. It even explains the whole egg thing. They’re desperate for confirmation that there is something that causes girls to kill themselves . Something that can be fought and they can protect girls from. I feel like the show saying that there is no one thing that causes suicide, instead it is the environment and interactions with individuals that lead them to commit such a thing. Also I would have the girls friends thier trying to bring back to be unable. I mean the show does this but… I think it would be another nice metaphor, that no matter what , the dead will stay dead, and to try and fight the fact is meaningless. Instead, you need to deal with those emotions, accept them and move on But that’s just my thoughts

[@darwinwatterson4568]

wonderfully said, i think i like this frill more than some other suggestions i've seen of her being a manifestation of all of their fears so it would still be a big-bad. instead in this version, all of their problems still exist as individual antagonists

[@_.iridescencija._]

Woah- this is such a great idea. If the second season turns out to be like everything you said; the show would truly be saved.

[@nomukun1138]

Some of the problems with this show are understandable when you learn the writer never met with the director and other animation staff, as was revealed in a writer interview translated on reddit. At the time of the interview, the writer had seen the pilot episode but hadn't shared some *THEMES* of upcoming episodes, let alone scripts or detailed outlines.

[@brycecartwright2403]

Why couldn’t they have just said something along the lines of “the accas are full of shit and trying to justify their obsession with frill”? Like make it so that frill doesn’t actually make people kill themselves and the accas were just misguided or something. That could not only lead to interesting plot development but also somewhat preserves the tasteful handling of the topic of suicide. It really sucks it got this bad, if the finale made the weird elements work out into something good this could’ve been a classic.

[@moon_wizard1250]

You can't make Frill the good guy after she killed his pregnant wife, at least it'd be a tough sell

[@LvLupXD]

@@moon_wizard1250 "Frill is not the evil mastermind" is different than "Frill is a good guy"

[@UnNuclear]

The ending didn't ruin the show for me, but it did damage it. I got mad Darling in the Franxx vibes ever since they introduced Frill. To have such an amazing show, generational even, and stumble so badly at the end is pretty disappointing. I sincerely hope there will be a season 2.

[@sarafontanini7051]

I sitll insist FRanxx's big bad should've been the titular scientist, not random aliens who got no foreshadowing

[@ProfRon-hb8zb]

@@sarafontanini7051 Trigger be like:

[@MrBrawler16]

I still can't watch that lip popping scene from Shrek 2 with out ptsd from this show

[@angiewu8294]

as someone who struggled with suicidal thoughts when i was around 13-14, i connected with this show way more than i thought i would going into it. then to be told that teen suicide is because spooky robot made them jump, it was a giant slap on the face-

[@thegamerwithin1676]

Ok, but what if we get a two-part "The end of wonder egg" movies or perhaps a tetrology of "Rebuild wonder egg" movies in a few years?

[@clover3479]

You've been putting out a lot of content lately and I'm loving it! Thanks for giving us so many videos. My ADHD is pretty bad and I struggle to get through shows sometimes so when you put out content it helps me feel like I can still follow what's going on with anime.

[@esotericauthor]

The beginning of the show really spoke to me in a visceral way. I connected with it and was touched by it. I thought that if it could keep up the storytelling and character development, it would easily be on my list of "anime that changed my perspective." Unfortunately, Wonder Egg Priority eschewed the metaphysical psyche delving at the start and devolved into a mediocre sci-fi... thing. I'll still have the wonderful connection I felt at the start, but sadly it won't have a ending that suits it.

[@yang_wright]

I guess you can say that Cloverworks need to Clover-work on their endings? But to be serious, the production value was really high, and it carried some interesting ideas, but man, it didn't really carry those ideas well. Maybe given more time and money, it would have been one of the classics

[@freshlymemed5680]

I think they had the budget. Heck Im sure many of the people who worked on this would have done it out of passion. But yeesh time is the one thing industrys dont seem to understand. To them money grows on trees but they dont seem to understand that a forest doesnt grow overnight.

[@Deveyus]

This show failing out hurts in a different way, it's one of the ways to start a conversation nobody wants to have, especially among those untouched by it. We lose more than a show when something like this flops.

[@Nagrom]

This show reminds me about 'people' who brag about their IQ - it tries to come across as intellectual but actually has nothing important to say.

[@mayovketchup]

or “Having the ability to speak does not make you intelligent”

[@Whatlander]

Bingo.

[@fireemblemaddict128]

This is a lot of anime, unfortunately. I believe there is a pressure on the anime industry for writers to make "smart" stories like Evangelion. Not every story is smart though, because not ever writer is smart. Some writers are really smart, and accidental genius happens sometimes, but when everyone tries to do it a load of pseudo-intellectual crap gets churned out. You see it a lot when character starts rambling about technology, combat tactics, or philosophy. It's almost bearable sometimes until they start talking about something you do know, and you realize how desparate to sound smart these writers are. At best they have knee deep, lukewarm understand. Worst case scenario you have the thrashing that is Wonder Egg lmao.

[@blutygar]

@@fireemblemaddict128 I wonder if it because most anime or anime watchers feel like they have to fake being smart for a medium that gets a lot of flack for being dumb fun or emotional sometimes?

[@thenigerundayooooguy2752]

Which episode should I stop it at? I watched like 4 eps and really liked it. So i dont wanna ruin my experience. So which ep should I stop at?

[@j.alfonso8036]

I can't believe that I forgot this show even existed 😶

[@lime_4859]

Yh its really forgettable

[@remuj6457]

@@lime_4859 fr it honestly was

[@BrotherMag]

The suicide theme kept me away

[@statz3697]

@@BrotherMag same but I will probably watch it eventually

[@Revealingstorm.]

@@remuj6457 no, it wasn't. At least until the last episode. It was probably one of the best of the year up until that point.

[@DaedricPrinceofDoom]

Hearing all these criticisms about how the show sidelines it's emotional coming of age story about deeply broken teenagers half way through to focus on high concept, sometimes convoluted ideas while also being somewhat sloppy with how it handles its themes reminds me a *lot* of, uh... Well it reminds me of Homestuck.

[@sarafontanini7051]

except Homestuck had a much better ending, in my opinion

[@DaedricPrinceofDoom]

@@sarafontanini7051 Gonna have to hard disagree, as much as Act 7 is beautifully animated it leaves several critical plot threads unresolved, many characters had their devolopment unfinished, and the credits attempt to show a 'happily every after' scenario with the characters that feels entirely unearned (the main god damned villian wasn't actually dealt with as far as readers were aware). This wouldn't be as bad if the official follow ups to Homestuck were... well, if they weren't *like that.*

[@00ammy00]

@@DaedricPrinceofDoom Yeah for me, Homestuck reached its peak at the end of Act 5 and then just continued to roll downhill from there. And if I could ever say that Act 7 was a "good" ending, it's only because literally everything that came after was uh... *like that*. Ugh.

[@nikonarshe9296]

@@sarafontanini7051 Homestucks ending was very rushed and terrible. Many fans had an issue with it. Especially the lack of actual dialouge in critical moments where it would have mattered the most to know what the characters frame of mind were at or anything at all. There series ended with many plot holes and character questions that should have been addressed but didn't. The series had many implied answers but nothing concrete which makes me loathe it even more because I used to be such a big fan of it in my teens. Homestuck wasn't a bad series but the ending to it was far from great.

[@WillowEpp]

@@DaedricPrinceofDoom Dare I ask what *"like that"* means?

[@Djinn_Entonic]

The moment the red hair girl was introduced, the series went rotten for me. As someone who tried to k1ll myself , as someone who hurted himself, as someone who was bullied, as someone who felt the most profound loneliness, this serie was beautiful, I thought that the girls were trying to save the girls so they could reencarnate, meanwhile they were running from their own problems. With the friend they for they found the force to battle their inner demons. But the fact that all was because of a butterfly saying "Jump", it makes no sense. I'm angry.

[@Oops-All-Ghosts]

As a guy who's struggled with a lot of suicidal ideation, especially around that age, the way they simultaneously infantilized girls and dismissed the problems of boys really uh. It sure was something. There were a few mentions of it early on, but I sort of dismissed it b/c the themes were still speaking to me; the moment they got to Frill, though, and it became clear what the 'real reason' was, I just. Couldn't, anymore. lmao

[@JxTime333]

@@Oops-All-Ghosts yeah guys i feel you, I'm disappointed too, the beginning was sooooo strong. I hope you guys gets better now and don't have this negative feelings anymore, my english is too bad to say how much i hope it's getting up/better for you both! But i have a good recommendation for you, if you wanna read something about the same topic (more or less). The Manga is called "Goodnight Punpun" it's amazing. It's really really deep and can hurt but the story is so good written. I swear i cryed a lot thanks it.

[@12thLevelSithLord]

When you said the series went rotten when they introduced the red girl I thought "Wait, what did Momo do to turn this guy off the show?" Then I realized you probably meant Frill.

[@Dracinard]

@@Oops-All-Ghosts I'm just coming to this from the video, but did they seriously do a mid season plot twist in a mature show about teen suicide that says both "girls are inherently way too influenced by their emotions, not like sensible boys" and "boys are too clever to commit suicide (so if you're a boy thinking about it you must be some sort of weird freak(1))"? Because hoooooooooo boy that's... frankly kind of impressive. That'd be unexpectedly terrible in a mediocre show, never mind one that up til then was actually doing a sensitive examination of the subject. Guess writers really can't write well when they're being worked to the bone, who knew. (1) *cough cough* leading cause of death for men under 45, *cough cough* incredibly important that we can have an honest and open discussion about the problems we're facing, *cough cough* you're not alone.

[@Nshadowtail]

@@Dracinard It wasn't a plot twist, just... kind of a throwaway line to explain why all the main characters and Egg girls are... well, girls. Acca and Ura-Acca claim that girls' suicides are driven by emotion, and boys' suicides are driven by... some sort of logic, or something? It's ridiculous and insulting to everyone. Bonus points for the "well you're not a REAL boy" of having one of the "Egg girls" later on be a trans boy...

[@polsarax]

So... I should only watch the seven episodes, because the rest was tragically lost in a freak accident via dropping egg cartons...

[@NaughtMax]

Wonder Egg Priority’s ending upset me more than it had any right to. I loved the show so much, it was cathartic and intimate, and I was just so attached to these characters and their journeys. That’s why the ending that robbed all of the characters of closure, minimized the central conflict by attributing it to a super powered AI, and generally cheapening the entire narrative by trying to make it something completely different than what made people fall in love with it.

[@hermann6808]

Yes, maybe in a parallele universe, Wonder egg priority became a classics alongside TPN (seriously, they both had the potential to be ones); unfornately, they've failed in this world. But still , Thank you to the Wep team; even if the ending was disappointing, it was a great journey!

[@TheSpinkels]

Production aside, it's absolutely baffling how the story turned out this way. For real, from the premise alone and everything leading up to the end, they already had everything they needed for a simple and satisfying conclusion. No need for this sciency backstory crap, just let them save their friends, have one final boss battle with their own ultimate evils, realize the new connections with each other, and bingo bango bongo, perfect easy conclusion. It practically writes itself, so how in the arse did anyone let that spiral into the writing garbage fire it became? Once again, it seems to be a result of that modern vice that's worming it's way around everything these days - The Red Door bias, where simplicity and subtlety are never enough, and how everything absolutely must have some deeper meaning or convolution in order to come off as deep and intelligent.

[@marcodragneel8035]

Yeah I agree with you on thay they should've stuck with the kind of story and themes they initially introduced. Because the progression of those themes throughout the most part were really hooking me in. But the sudden shift from introspective, coming of age, supernatural story to a scifi one especially when the show is about to end is just downright a bad decision. For a show thats 12 episodes long, they shouldve stuck with what they introduced. Now IF they had more episodes to work with, sure the scifi stuff may work out if given enough care and effort. However its really just sad seeing what was a show with so much potential get ruined by the pressure it was under

[@xARCTIC_]

This was my favorite show up until ep 9. Then it just went downhill. The teacher turning out to be innocent? The AI and Frill? Like you’re 100% right just do an “ultimate baddie” and “power of friendship and reassuring” and boom great ending. They just butchered it. 10/10 for ep 1-9 4/10 for ep 9-13. Animation is amazing all the way through though.

[@Gazer01]

Wonder Egg Priority was a fantastic show, it just never ended. The final episode wasn't bad as an episode, it was bad as an ending. All the series needs is a proper conclusion.

[@tychoderkommentator2989]

I agree. I think the 2nd half of the special would have been an *amazing* last episode of season 1, but only if you decide to continue it in a 2nd season.

[@humourlessjester3584]

This definitely sums up what I thought of the show. There are some more things I'd like to add to this tho. Like if you're writing any kind of story ending you only use pieces that you have rather than add new ones. That's why it felt like we ended in the middle of things, because reveals typically reserved for midway points in the story structure come up at the very end making it feel unfinished. Because structurally speaking we did finish at the middle.

[@cacophony7941]

I disagree. The show does need a proper conclusion, but it also needs a proper lead-in to it. In my opinion, it started declining in quality about halfway through, when it abandoned the dripfeed of small hints. The second half of the season felt underdeveloped and rushed, not just the finale. I think it would have been a much better show if it had been spread out over twice as many episodes or two seasons. This was never going to happen, though, considering how rushed anime production is and how overworked the employees are.

[@theMoporter]

I was feeling pretty hopeful when I watched the penultimate episode. The special was fucking terrible. It not only looked terrible, even by other series' standards, but it through out so much character development in favour of prolonging the nonsensical AI plot. Points for the least convincing character with albinism in existence, by the way.

[@enzojose4001]

@@cacophony7941 That is what he said: the last episodes are not bad by themselfs, they are just bad as an conclusion. If wonder egg was going to have a second season, it could be a great cliffhanger for a second season.

[@EnforcerAJ]

Frill's existence is probably the equivalent of those parents/"caretakers" that responds to their kids being depressed by taking away their phone and other devices. Because clearly that's the problem.

[@emilyks6238]

I personally though the story or Ura Acca and Acca creating Frill was incredibly interesting but within the context of the story, it was too much too late. It was a story I would have liked to hear more of but not as a part of the Wonder Egg Priority narrative.

[@etthehuman01]

Honestly, it hurts to see a show like this fail to stick the landing so hard. This show and Attack on Titan brought me back to anime in a time where I thought I was over it, and I honestly don’t even want to watch the series finale because I don’t want to be let down

[@ben-san9677]

The best/worst summary of WEP that I've seen was "The final episode stuck the landing about as well as Koito did."

[@Malamite]

You're not gonna be happy about attack on titans finale either haha.

[@dinolover]

Its a show, you'll be ok.

[@etthehuman01]

@@dinolover yeah I know, just a show that talks about serious subject matter like mental health being remembered as another show with a terrible ending kinda sucks

[@BloodSprite-tan]

honestly i feel like the ending was so bad it's kind of not worth watching.

[@TheToxic35]

It's a miracle that Horimiya didn't end up the same way Promised Neverland and Wonder Egg Priority did

[@DantoriusD]

Because Horimiya is not an Original Anime. And believe me Horimiya is one of the rare cases where the Anime is better than the Manga.

[@ilikethis3203]

@@DantoriusD I don't know about that. I love the anime and the manga is great! I understand not animating all of the manga but there were some chapters I wish they did. Also, the Promise Neverland is based off a manga. Not an original anime.

[@Grudgebearer47]

Actually it kinda did. From what I heard they rushed a lot of chapters into the last episode

[@phlaryx7145]

My problem was that they made it seem like it was going to be an hour long special to expand on certain plot points, but they wasted half that time with more fucking recap. Like we already had an unplanned recap episode why do we need another. My heart has already been broken with Promised Neverland season 2 and Record of Ragnarock. And now this too? brb gonna go retreat back to Odd Taxi 🥲

[@Omahdon]

I stopped watching the show after episode 10. I think I was right to.

[@adewilliam9047]

Gigguk did the same thing, and Joey supports Gigguk to not watch the rest

[@chadlikespasta3142]

Me too, and tbh i only watched that far to see kaoru's ep lmao.

[@SEESBoy-hy8jz]

Same with the end of The Promised Neverland Season 1, didn't even bother with season 2 after hearing/seeing the train wreck it turns into

[@xxtille]

yeah , after that it turned out kinda meh

[@flow185]

After ep 3 i was done. It became so stale

[@elizabethlane4675]

As someone who's had to deal with almost losing some of my closest friends to suicide, I was really happy when I saw this show. Most shows only want to graze over the topic but this one faced it head-on and they did it really well too so I was really disappointed when it started straying away from the important topics it had at first and started to become some randomly put together sci-fi story... eh whatever I still love the show

[@KimberlyByrdV]

You hit the nail on the head! I was expected a deeper in look on the physiological aspect of teens struggled, not the robots... This was such a let down for so many of us. It had all of the ingredients to make an incredible, decadent show. To see it fall flat was crushing. Another example of the fact that the industry loves to rush things. If they gave this a little more time, let it marinate and mature, it would have been perfection. I can only hope this is a lesson to others going forward.

[@ManlyTear]

My question to you would be why the hell would you expect a show with this premise , the whole egg + dreamworld thing, being a deep look into the physiological aspect of teens in the 1st place? It's like watching a story expecting some deep, realistic physiological aspect, to be explored in a story that flashes it's fictional side all the time. The true lesson to be had here, which many probably won't learn either way, is for the audience regarding their expectations for such shows.

[@ClintEPereira]

@@ManlyTear This is a bad take. Fantasy and science fiction are used to tackle hard truths. The show was set up to discus psychological issues because those were the themes the writers introduced: suicide, guilt, trauma. It would be foolish to *not* think that those issues would be handled smartly given how the series started.

[@ManlyTear]

@@ClintEPereira Missing the point. You can make a fantasy or sci-setting for that matter , and tackle such issues there. You can even use combine a realistic setting with a bit of fantasy elements and do this, just don't rely on those to fix the issues the show wants to touch on. But WEP is the type of show that exists in a real world setting, and tries USING ( key, word, using) fantasy elements to tackle it's real world issues for it's characters. So it's basically trying to solve something that exists in reality through something that doesn't exist , from the very beginning. And the OP said "I was expecting a deeper look into the psychological aspect of teens" ~ and I'm sitting here thinking like "wrong show chief." Foolish? Who's are the foolish ones considering how the show turned out? Because I dont' see y'all laughing & praising the show you were stanning so hard now. Should just accept that you got hooked over a pretentious illusion, and that's how a lesson will be learned from this regarding expectations. I'll take something like Tomozaki over this any day, which starts small, non-pretentious & delivers a steady build-up towards a solid conclusion. That one tackles real issues too, it just succeeds at it, unlike WEP.

[@ddchrw]

@@ManlyTear Ep 1 started with showing the main character’s motivations stem form struggles with suicide, so it’s not unreasonable to expect the story to deeply explore that topic. Probably not a one to one example, but what you said is like questioning how people could ever think Animal Farm would have deep examination of oppression and the Soviet Union after reading the first few chapters, just because the characters are intelligent and human like animals that talk, but still live on a farm under the ownership of a human.

[@ManlyTear]

@@ddchrw I'm not questioning someone's like or dislike towards WEP. Rather, I find it a bit silly how the complaints come for something that was still present from early on, it just went further. Of course it's not unreasonable for someone that may be say, relatively new to anime to expect this. My comment towards the OP was more in the sense that expectations should be kept in check, particularly regarding pretentious shows. As for the Animal Farm sample, if I'd have seen that movie, then I'd respond to the point you brought up, otherwise I'm in the dark on how it executes itself. But it's a bad sample either way as context-is all mighty & what you described about it doesn't exactly match the one of WEP.

[@bradens.3125]

i always thought that frill was meant to be and represent the scapegoats that people who don't understand teenage problems talk about, as i thought the acca's very misinformed ideas of boys vs girls suicide was also meant to show how messed up their viewpoint really was, though that's just my interpretation

[@chadlikespasta3142]

I really hope you're right. If so, it's a damn shame they didnt make that come across clearer.

[@169FLOZ]

That's a generous watching, since there is absolutely nothing said or done or shown to tease that. It would make a lot more SENSE and be much more compelling that way. Could be that's what they wanted and time and budget screwed them.

[@xenghuong]

It's basically a really good show that never got the love and ending it deserved. The fate of many anime originals.

[@codyh4486]

I just finished, tonight, watching this show. It was cute, emotional, funny in places and had some heart warming moments. It really felt like these were people dealing with their issues (spoilers) Being lonely and rejected by others, guilt over someone's death, self-centered freedoms and identity, the loss of a loved one, jealousy. It was excellent to watch and I kept with it, but at a certain point it felt like.. instead of, like MB said 'sticking the landing' they screwed up somewhere. Someone throw something out there and it wasn't reviewed properly and made it through to production. In my opinion, here's how to fix the 'ending'. -Show Kotobuki in the life support pod, as it sets up the alternate world used later. -Instead of Frill being a crazy, jealousy fueled mother-murderer, she instead commits suicide for the attention of her Fathers. This sets them up later as well to continue with the research to discover why 14-yo Girls were committing suicide in higher numbers.Mother dies in childbirth, the baby grows up and continues as is until suicide. -Momoe discovers herself in the egg first and subsequently runs out the clock on that egg. She doesn't free Haruka, but is still traumatized that she met herself that committed suicide because she was so oftenly miss-identified. She doesn't tell the others, but starts to drift away a little and goes quiet. -Rika then finds herself in an egg as well. An accidental suicide from where she accidentally cut herself too deep and bled out before help could arrive. The current Rika saves her by telling her how she's come to terms with her Mother, Chiemi is saved but she's still upset that at any point in time, she was one accident away from dying. One wrong cut, one wrong emotion and she's gone forever. She uses her anger to cover up her fear, as she did. -Ai Ohto finds herself in the egg. No changes needed except for the whole.. Bug face person thing. She accepts that she loves and supports her Mother's Relationship, moves on from her doubts over Sawaki and saves her friend, then tells the others what happened. Rika and Momoe confess that they had the same experience but they didn't have the strength to overcome their fears and are now afraid of death. -Neiru then finds herself in an egg as well. Her alternate self tells her that she was lonely and so over-burdened with responsibility and expectations that she took her own life. She never got to live for herself, so she decided she wouldn't live for others either. Our Neiru decides to take some of that selfishness and begins to live for her own happiness, freeing herself from feeling LIKE a machine all the time and allows herself to life selfishly, taking time from responsibilities to be with her friends, hang out, do things she wants to do. Her sister comes back to life and they have an incredibly rocky relationship for years, things like that don't mend over night. -The hour long special shouldn't be a recap. It didn't even have to be an hour long, just say that Neiru was leaving, Momo was terrified of going back in, Rika was angry at herself for losing her life in another world by her own habits. And finally, feeling that her friends were drifting apart, Ai destroys her phone when Neiru calls, feeling betrayed that she left, but in the end, she goes with Momo and Rika to confront their fears and failures, coming to terms with their current lives. They all share a dream and wake up to a text message from Neiru saying that she misses them a lot and she doesn't know when she'll be back, but she will. In the mean time, Ai keeps going after eggs as a Warrior of Eros to help the scientists while Rika and Momoe make their decisions later. End on the closing shot of her saying "Ai Ohto is back!" with the double peace signs. Super cute ending that one. there, I did my best.

[@himanshumeena473]

This is perfect

[@calL1727]

holy sh THIS IS IT

[@ladydiamond6611]

Thanks for putting so much detail into this review, especially about the writing and production. From the first few episodes, I could clearly see how engaging and talented the writing was, so I was so confused in the ending, it made me doubt my initial intention that these were good writers. Im so relieved to find out it was a case of too many chefs in the kitchen and not enough resources (ngl even with how crazy the story got, could have even worked if they were given 26 episodes) and not a case of them not caring/giving up/changing writers etc. Also to reaffirm that Naoko Yamada (one of my favourite directors ever) had a hand in the directing, I think Episode 1 is where her directing style really shines, and it's really wonderful. It's a shame it didn't completely work out, but makes me excited to know passionate writers/directors are working hard behind the scenes, giving us new ideas! I just hope more trust and resources are given to new people with talent to prove just as much as it is given to other establish anime writers/directors.

[@thatpunygirl___149yes8]

How to fix some part of the ending. Instead of making frill “tHE rEasON” the girls commit suicide make her more like Monika from Ddlc. Monika takes issues that are already there from the rest of her club members and dials them up to extreme (Sayori, Yuri) causing them to commit suicide. So I wished Frill did the same. This could send 2 messages, that when you ignore major issues in young girls (bullying Ect) it results in bad consequences and other people can have big impacts on whether you overcome or succumb to your personal problems.

[@sarafontanini7051]

also maybe not make the big bad some evil robot, make her a demon or something, I dunno it just feels like Sci-Fi isn't exactly what this show should be

[@Sleepy12ftPanda]

I actually liked the part with Frill, though that was because I was anticipating the revelation that she was merely exacerbating a trend that was already there instead of directly causing the wave of mass suicides herself. I saw her as a super Psyop agent, someone who tips the scales the direction they were already leaning. In a good story, dealing with her would've meant dealing with the misogynistic culture that gave birth to her as well. What could've been...😞

[@TheOrangeBanjo]

I’d say it didn’t “Jump the Shark”, it moreso jumped directly into the shark’s gnashing maw.

[@neneninetails5803]

Before the final episode I genuinely thought the AI killing Himari was just the guys excuse for not understanding how the girl could kill herself and the whole underlying plot was about no matter how happy someone seems to always check up on them. Then everything was Frill’s fault 🙃

[@TheOneTrueOfficialLordGod]

Man, I just need a season 2 because that "finale" was NOT a ending. Like... at all. These characters are so likable, they deserve better than what they got.

[@kevinthedot]

I don't think the high concept sci-fi stuff necessarily kills the show, I think it just needed to tie things together better. Frill's story is legitimately one of the spookiest episodes in this show full of psychological horror as it takes their talent for expressive character animation and applies it to this "perfect little girl" created by two dudes (that were way too full of what they thought they could do) slowly breaking down mentally and morally as her worldview became skewed by being born a 14 year old girl with only two guys as her human interaction while rapidly maturing mentally. Frill's whole story and theme actually works perfectly as a foil to Ai's story as both are about girls with misguided desires for attention that needed to learn to love themselves and cope with their losses, but while Ai rejected her self that craved validation from men, Frill gave into it and murdered not the men, but the woman they desired. There's a lot of layers of symbolism and nuance that could be read into on Frill's end and it could have fit in so well to the story but we just never got that confrontation to pull it off. Honestly, I wish the series sold better despite the production hell. They have a PERFECT framework for a movie that could solve almost all the issues in the series by tying them together and giving everyone the closure they need. Have Ai try to find Neiru and Frill on her own only to fail and be rejected by Neiru. But then instead of giving up and ignoring the issues like she had done with Koito, Ai now knows better and wants to keep trying to reach and understand her friend. So she goes and gets help by reconnecting with Rika and Momoe, giving both of them some time to get some helpful friendship therapy and overcome their rage and trauma respectively. Then have the girls join in Ai's dream to face down Frill and her Friends in Ai's dream school (like, Frill's friends are even in schoolgirl outfits, it's perfect), giving each of them a chance at a rematch with the Frill friend that messed with them before. Finally reaching a final act with a climactic faceoff with Frill where they can try to better explain her role in all of this. Having Frill smack down the girls by pointing out how she's just one giving a little push at the end to drive girls over the edge and that they all played a part in the suicides of their loved ones, only for Neiru to finally see the light and turn Frill's logic around and join the heroes in a final blow, Ai in particular smashing whatever false form Frill may take with her hammer to reveal the frail self inside, would be an amazing and fitting final standoff. Then wrap things up with the Accas coming in and being forced to atone for their sins while dealing with Frill in a non-lethal manner (as killing her really wouldn't fit the themes of the show) and letting the remaining girls go home and live happily as friends again. But we'll never get that movie. Even if we got one by some miracle there's no telling if it'd reach those kind of expectations. The potential's there, but it's likely to never be tapped, which sucks.

[@ShadowNerd92]

Im actually glad you gave this comment because im seeing so many ppl bash the Frill story line as the explanation of Girl suicide, when it was in fact what you described, and AI creation learning jealousy for her creators and noticing other humans with those same thoughts and "pushing" them with her creations until they kill themselves. Small little thing that the Accas were mentioning such as the increase of suicide numbers, which ppl take it as Frill being the whole reason behind it which, isnt completely wrong but, is skewed incorrectly. Frill using Dot and Hyphen to push Acca's daughter or doing it themselves, according to Ur-Acca. Thats not even touching on the fact that even with the introduction of these secondary AI that mentally hurt Rika and Momoe, that as the girls saved the person they wanted essentially kept creating more parallel universes that made it so those ones never died and deleted history of their previous existence as far as the MCs go. That being said I think no matter which side you're on we all agree there shouldve been more time and possibly a bigger opportunity like the movie you mentioned. Dont know if we can blame the production on that(yes, partially). or the fact that as an Original Story and concept, it just like an indie game, where the big companies say, "Go play with your Duplo while we give these kids Legos," and no one give it the teeth it needs

[@teetheluchador]

Thank you was scrolling for a long time to find someone with their own opinion who understands the frill storyline was crazy good and needed. It just never led anywhere .

[@LanPartyStudios]

Agreed, the Frill storyline took this series to another level but it lead up to absolutely nothing and did not impact the MCs in anyway whatsoever. I was hoping for a reaction or something between the group when they exchanged stories about what happens when you reached the end and then confront the accas but they just moved on like nothing traumatizing happened at all???

[@beebop5979]

Agree with everyone^^ the frill storyline was very interesting to me, but after frill’s ai’s showed up it started to go down hill, I didn’t have a problem with them showing up but more of what happened after they did, very underwhelming ending

[@beebop5979]

Although highly highly unlikely imma hope for a movie 🤞🏾😔

[@NoBuddy_1]

I think it’s a shame that they didn’t do more duo wonder egg battles, I think Momoe and Ai Ohto could have battled together to overcome her suspicions on Shuichiro. And I feel like Riku and Neiru could have learned a lot from each other considering there lifestyles and economic backgrounds are very different and they seem to process emotions very differently. I think they rushed the Genetic children thing to quickly, they introduced Frill who ( in my opinion) was introduced as a antagonist and made it seem like there was going to be an epic battle were all four girls work together and learned to defeat her. Personally would have made this a longer series considering we had one episode that was a total recap and a second recap on the last episode. It’s a shame cause I really like this psychology wonderland anime series I do wish they’d made the monsters drawn a little more differently like the first one. Still liked the anime a very different pattern then most magical girls.

[@PanAndScanBuddy]

"It's hard to sort out your priorities" Your Wonder Egg Priorities

[@jivesauce7540]

I ended up watching the final episode last night, then followed up with this video, so as to avoid spoilers. I've pondered on it a bit and I think the whole Frill part was supposed to represent social media, something created by some guys with no ill intent that turned into a monster they couldn't control. The "dream" world was the internet and how we all lead separate lives there, often with hyper realized versions of ourselves. The butterfly headed androids were like tweets and the facades that people put on social media; often a mix of sweet and harsh. So, I think I get what they were going for, but they tried to sell a meta narrative in too short a span and didn't let their ideas breathe, so it came off either ham fisted or completely confusing.

[@CamRob_56]

One thing that I find interesting that the show brought up was the idea of a human being locked at a maturity level. Frill is still locked at the maturity of a young teenager but has the knowledge or maybe even better than some adults which is why I found the killing scene of the Acca’s partner so interesting. Because it is childlike jealousy but when a child has the knowledge of how to kill someone and even make it look like an accident it just shows how they kind of created a monster.

[@Bakucryptid77]

I feel so strongly about Wonder Egg Priority, it affected me so heavily, and I'm just not going to watch this finale. Makes me feel incredibly empty. It's sad.

[@retrohanska4441]

If I had to sum up this video in one sentence, it's "sometimes less is more." Good concept held back by the need to make it more complex and convoluted than it needed to be

[@geiseric222]

I’m surprised you didn’t mention the terribly way they ended the whole grooming thing. That was insanely fucked up on its own

[@Oops-All-Ghosts]

I feel like giving that the attention it deserves, as well as some of the other major issues with how the show handles its subject matter, would have taken the video well over 20 minutes.

[@geiseric222]

@@Oops-All-Ghosts I mean that’s true but he does brink of the themes of the show, and I think that scene does far more damage than AI girl all things considered.

[@holmtorln]

Wonder egg is the reason why somtimes is better to not explain evrything thats happening and that happend

[@andrewrivera1054]

Exactly, there was no reason to have a back story for the egg men, no need for the clone sisters, it was such a good series but the writing in the last two episodes was awful, so much unnecessary as well as incoherent backstory, it ruined what could have been a great show (first like 10 episodes in my opinion were amazing though and still are). A good recent anime that was surreal and did what Wonder egg priority couldn't is Sonny Boy, if you haven't watched it yet and like surreal types of anime I would definitely recommend it probably my favorite anime of 2021.

[@michaelbruso]

Don't forget they also managed to entirely ruin all of the buildup and mystery behind Koito's death by just revealing in a quick voiceover that she actually had a history of hitting on and ruining the life of a teacher at her previous school, was trying to seduce her teacher again this time and her death was just an accident when she was being a drama queen on the roof trying to ruin his life too and tripped and fell.

[@bajablastfreezetm8135]

I feel like a rarely touched upon topic of WEP is how they treated Momoe specifically. she is the near textbook definition of that awful trope where tomboys/butches secretly hate looking masculine and actually want to be more girly. it sucks how that's like, the only interpretation of tomboys there can be in media. they don't even get the societal discrimination parts right with Momoe, as someone who is butch, lol. feels bad that people who have clearly never spoken to a butch in their life have control of our narrative

[@Oops-All-Ghosts]

Yeah, I'm still trying to work out if Momoe was meant to be read as a trans character rather than a tomboy. There was that ridiculous scene with the Adam's Apple early on, but also, in the episode with Kaoru in it, Momoe ends up wearing a jacket with the trans flag's colours, along with a sport's bra (I think?) in the same colours, and, like... Many of her problems this season revolve around dysphoria and gender presentation, it seems like? I mean I'm not going to give them credit for that either way; if she really is meant to be read that way, then the fact that they didn't confirm that within the show itself is cowardice, esp. since they had a character whose entire identity is basically just "I'm trans look at how trans I am," but. Aughhhh. (Also ending that on Kaoru kissing her as if the only way to be validated in your gender-identity as a woman is to be perceived as sexually desirable as one by men sucks; again, I'm not sure if that's what they intended to say, but whether it was or not, they said it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

[@comyuse9103]

dude, unless they really fucked up in the later episodes, she is trans. she isn't a tomboy, she is a trans girl with very much on display dysphoria.

[@Oops-All-Ghosts]

​@@comyuse9103 I mean, they sorta really fucked up in the first episode she appeared in by making a big deal of how she doesn't have an Adam's Apple.

[@ThornheartCat]

I'm still confused about her. I think she's cis, I mean, she goes to an all girls school in modern day Japan after all, but then if she IS cis her story is just... tall girl suffers because people assume tall = gay? Because tall girls... aren't ALLOWED to be femme????????? Like, what??????????????????? She seems uncomfortable with presenting so masc, but if she's cis, why not just... dress differently??? Her character is a mess.

[@comyuse9103]

@@Oops-All-Ghosts that wouldn't be a big deal if she weren't trans.