What the Hormones Didn’t Solve | a Detrans Story, with Sinead

[@addictive7356]

I’m a trans person and I’m scared of the cult that has become the trans community. I’m starting to remove any aspects of my life having to do with being trans (aside from medical, and relationship aspects, of course). The internet is crazy, and all these people can get together and recruit more into their mindset.

[@roxzannezook3269]

People seem to have forgotten the beauty of minding their own business

[@naryainc]

@@roxzannezook3269 It's worse, they have adopted the mindset of butting into childhood development, ignoring parental rights outright.

[@NastyBiscuit1]

@@ginaritchie451 No one on this KZbin channel is talking about left or right. Ben is talking to people to work out what is right and what is wrong.

[@superhetoric]

@@ginaritchie451 braindead comment

[@AR-ml9eo]

Best of Luck to you. It is important that Detransitioners speak up and be provided a platform to speak to young people who may be undergoing gender disphoria. It is only fair, and scientific that persons considering making any damaging and irreversible medicalized changes to their bodies have the opportunity to view other opinions. Proponents of Transgender Ideology do not want young people to have the opportunity to hear other ideas. Just as they use censorship and threats to silence anyone who disagrees or even seeks to ask questions. Best of luck with your decision. Please speak up to let others what you are going through!

[@lotusstar347]

I was very moved by this interview. As a former teacher for forty-three years, I saw so many young men and women who were just so lost find clarity by simply being allowed to discuss whatever in their lives was bothering them. If free, open and protected environments are provided, young persons struggling to "find themselves"will find fellowship. It has now, however, become politically dangerous to any teacher to simply provide a space for discussion.

[@charlottemckenzie5259]

True

[@chocolatebunny3221]

It shouldn’t be. School are required to have guidance counselors, that’s the only way they can have their safe space. To take away a required position is to damn children into silence. But sometimes it’s hard to have discretion when dealing here certain issues that children don’t want everyone else knowing. (Suicidal thoughts and abuse) stuff like that can also scare children into silence even more.

[@Brandi_the_Baker]

It’s not a teacher’s responsibility to provide that free talking space. You are to teach them. Not worrying about their mental state. Don’t teach them anything other than educational material.

[@lotusstar347]

@@Brandi_the_Baker Critical thinking skills involve discussion. So does all literature. Students test their own thinking skills against the poets, authors, great thinkers and against one another. However, I get what you are saying. Many teachers now try to win the kids over to their particular biases. If kids want to know my thinking, they will have to guess. My job was to teach them many kinds of approaches to finding facts and truth, not to tell them what to think. No teacher is to be a robot or expect robotic behavior or thinking which is what it sounds like you are advocating.

[@strawberryquark]

@@lotusstar347What a good point. I loved these fundamental discussions in class.

[@RonnieD1970]

What a wonderful guest. Humble, honest and so articulate. Great interview.

[@gazsibb]

What a wonderful interview. But OMG the activists are doing so much damage by closing down the discussion. Thank you both.

[@ssharp755]

Nothing in the term and definition of activist requires free thinking, stop redefining terms because you might otherwise feel uncomfortable.

[@RanEncounter]

@@Willowtree82 You are literally making the no true scotsman logical fallacy. Most activist are not critical thinkers.

[@MFYouTube683]

@@ssharp755 well but activism -!especially for social justice- can’t call out other people for actions they then repeat themselves when it suits THEIR ideal with the argument «we never said we were good guys». Because that basically means that it’s just about winning at any cost, and let’s be honest: that sounds about right. See: JammieDodger who did a PHD in psychology on the transgender experience and holds a Dr title to his name: «what do Chromosomes matter, they are do small you can’t even see them». Remarkable eh? For an academic? If the future of science is pure identity politics in such crucial fields of study with hundreds of kids involved and basically no representative, peer-reviewed data so far.

[@cosmicsquirrel7642]

Some of this rings like a bell. I dressed as a male on and off thru my late teens and my twenties. When you have been assaulted and treated badly by men avoiding that attention is attractive. It didn't seem to help me much. I'm glad my generation didn't have these options or who knows where I would be. Best of luck to Watson. There is a place for us all to find peace.

[@Captain_MonsterFart]

I had the same experience, though I mostly wasn't assaulted. I was followed and harassed quite a bit though. "Dressing down" in baggy shapeless clothes didn't make a bit of difference. I think I might have been taken in by this bullshit if I was a teenager right now.

[@domfrancis3140]

@@Captain_MonsterFart I think you're right, maybe because if you mention any gender preference it no longer becomes yours to control, sadly. God bless you.

[@domfrancis3140]

Thanks for posting , your post is very interesting.

[@eminemilly]

Yeah sometimes people put on n weight for the same reason and then feel fear if they lose weight sometimes

[@eminemilly]

@@Willowtree82 Some bpa free are just as bad or worse. they are just slightly altering the bpa but it's close enough

[@fainitesbarley2245]

I’m impressed that rabbit can pronounce it’s words so clearly while chewing.

[@CChissel]

@Nunya Dibness Not sure if joking or...didn’t see the intro...

[@helenspielbauer5401]

And the rabbit can change a tire!

[@thermalreboot]

Watching the intro I got a hankering for Hasenpfeffer.

[@helenspielbauer5401]

@@thermalreboot Rabbit Stew! I only know that reference from the old Bugs Bunny cartoons. I'm old!

[@milkcatdog394]

That’s a manly rabbit for ya 😍

[@kassie106]

Thanks for hearing my friends story. She has a great POV for all of these issues. Glad she's got the power within to speak up about all of this. Love you Watson ❤

[@imwatson5259]

Love you x

[@poponachtschnecke]

​@@imwatson5259hope you're well ❤

[@carolynbrightfield8911]

Watson, you have the most gorgeous Scottish brogue. Thank you for your sane voice in this wilderness.

[@abradolfhonkler9287]

This interview was fascinating, encouraging and heartbreaking in equal measure. Watson is great to listen to, I just hope she finds the happiness she so thoroughly deserves.

[@karenaubert8852]

I wish Ms.Watson well. She has been through so much at such a young age but seems to have developed into a wise, intelligent, and compassionate human being. I hope she will continue to be willing to be interviewed and speak from the heart.

[@dvg4536]

Just wanted to say, as many have, Benjamin you are an amazing listener. We really need more of that out there today.

[@BenjaminABoyce]

Isn’t that an odd exhibitionism-the type that compels people to be watched watching others-

[@sonjahart7913]

What a lovely person I just want to give her a big hug 💕 Hope everything will work out ok

[@basedboomer5912]

If only people could see themselves as others see them. Such a striking, open, honest, charismatic woman, you would think think the world was her oyster. To be human is to have regrets, I wish her well.

[@JNYC-gb1pp]

Transition issues seem to be like regular people doing the "once I get x, then my life will be better'. For most people the 'x' is a better job, better apartment, better friends, better romantic relationships but for dyphoric people the 'x' is the other sex. Very sad.

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

Hi Julie, happy new year. Yes, it's beyond tragic, because at least the disappoint of getting X and finding out your still the same old person w/ the same old issues is part of life and growing up. This trans horror leaves you mutilated and sterile and there's no take back , no revamping your job or stuff you thought you needed.

[@jessicacrets8516]

Hey! I'm trans! So you're, not wrong to a degree. A lot of people with dysphoria go into transition thinking it will solve all their problems and it doesn't. What it solves (in most but not all cases) is our gender dysphoria. In my personal experience what I realized was that while everything was coated by my dysphoria, once I had that under control it became obvious to me that I had other issues I had to deal with. Transition only takes care of that one thing but a lot of us jump in expecting everything to be fixed and better but it doesnt. Whenever someone asks me for advice about transition I always make sure to tell them that they shouldn't go into it thinking it will fix all there problems. That if transition is what they think they need, that they go in with realistic expectations. I personally think transition can be helpful for some people (like myself) but that people who do decide to transition need to make sure they're going in with their eyes open and their expectations reasonable.

[@magsteel9891]

Jessica Crets do people receive your advice well? I'm concerned that the current culture of being supportive to the point of being laudatory can influence the transition decisions people make. People like attention, acceptance, and validation. But they will have to live with the outcome.

[@jessicacrets8516]

@@magsteel9891 generally, but it's not something they're hearing from a lot of people. They're certainly not hearing it from most gender therapists. I didn't. They prescribed hormones to me after 2 sessions even I wanted to talk through it more. But as I was transitioning every once in a while I'd hear it from other trans people who were a couple years ahead of me. But it's not being said enough and there are always people who get mad here and there if you try and tell them it because tumblr and whatever has conditioned them to think it's a cure all.

[@magsteel9891]

Jessica Crets the original poster is right, everyone wants a simple explanation for the things that make them unhappy. I hope you find your happy.

[@HarryFlashmanVC]

Good God, as a 52 year old Scot I have to apologise to this person, we have let her down terribly. On my generation's watch we have allowed this madness to take over our society.

[@randomroses1494]

They were very careful to keep people in the dark. It was all planned. TikTok is big part of it. Did you know TIKTOK is Chinese owned?

[@kathleenking47]

The younger they trans, the more they lose voice. When they do this older, they still sound like women I think, WOMEN ♀️need to start wearing dresses/skirts again Have small children see you in them Pants are only for certain times

[@lindaredmon1810]

Yes we have. God save the children

[@lauriewashburn867]

We've done it in my country too.im beganing to wonder if all this woke business is actually some sort of a malignant conspiracy

[@kathleenbaker2654]

Research Agenda 2030

[@justlorelle4249]

My 15 year old daughter is at high school in Glasgow Scotland. There is a lot of information about and positive support for gender diversity in the school system. I think it's worrying that the transition process is being promoted for teens here. I think most kids with gender dysphoria issues do have other issues. Better councilling & therapies have to be offered & multiple problems have to be worked on separately. Mental health awareness may be going up, but the services aren't keeping up with the demand or offering accessible for all service.

[@justlorelle4249]

@@potapobob3769 I think it's the other way round, all the teens want to be unique individuals, & so they "choose" one of the other labels....it makes them "special" & people will treat them so. When she's brought kids home they've sometimes been introduced with their sexuality before their name. ie this is gay John 😱🤯 The problem really is that gender and sexuality shouldn't be talking points or issues at all, shouldn't make any difference 🤷

[@apebass2215]

@@potapobob3769 no one is 'cis', no one is a subset of their own sex.

[@queengoblin]

The problem is that people just take at face value what they're told is moral & right & never do their own research or go within to see what is right for them. They just accept that "being pro trans" makes you a good and moral person and questioning that means you're an ignorant transphobe. Right wing. Religious. Close minded. The problem is whatever root of why people don't think for themselves. That's usually survival needs. Can't focus on thinking too hard about propaganda it you're constantly hustling to feed your family. The idea that poverty makes you moral is one of the most harmful idealologies on the planet. Constant grinding for your bread makes you an ineffective slave not a moral person.

[@cashkitty3472]

Mental health needs are going up because kids are being confused by this. They need to grow up without this

[@lizhoward-k7627]

"High School" in Scotland? I didn't realise you have the Grammar School Sytem in Scotland.... You learn something new every day .....

[@catherineb8658]

I listened to this a year ago, my first exposure to the experience of a "detrans" person. It stuck with me for such a long time and I've always wondered how Watson is doing now. Still interesting to listen to a second time and a year later. I hope everything's going well for you Watson

[@BenjaminABoyce]

She is well, and joined me again not too many weeks back: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaS3kI1uhKt5msk

[@catherineb8658]

@@BenjaminABoyce thanks! Not sure how I missed that

[@katieandnick4113]

She seems so self aware. What an awesome person.

[@johnm7437]

Thank you for the sanity. You are a courageous person Watson. This is an important conversation.

[@cdaz55]

Sinead sharing her experience and what she's learned in invaluable. I hope others who are going through similar problems will listen and learn. She is a wealth of knowledge. I hope she finds happiness and contentment in her life. She has so much to offer others from her experience.

[@elisedulova6100]

I’ve been on and off listening to this all day, Watson is such a joy to listen to. Great interview, I really enjoy the flow of this one how it goes on and off topic of detransition so fluidly.

[@bobobonobo759]

"I really enjoy the flow of this one how it goes on and off topic of detransition so fluidly." Me too. And I think it put Watson at ease to start out talking about history. This is one of my favorite BB interviews

[@sunnyshowers7007]

I've heard from a few people now on your show that being on testosterone made it difficult for them to cry. That is so interesting...it would be amazing if someone did a study on transitioned and detransitioned etc. people - folks who've been both genders hormonally - to see what the mental and emotional differences actually are between men and women. The measurable, experienced differences.

[@Neworldisordered]

You see it in aging men.

[@CChissel]

@MyLongestJourney The placebo could trigger an increase in testosterone production as well, and not just the “expectation” but I see no reason why both would not be valid.

[@salvolondon]

Colette Showers now I now why I find hard to cry ( I’m a male ) .

[@iainisbald]

You may be interested in this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5-mlZ6VaL6jhqs

[@somethingclever8916]

This is why men don't show their emotions. This is why men brood when sad. They may cry but its brief. One way isn't better than the other. But both ways deserve the same compassion and encouragement

[@mtmcas]

Great interview. How insane that Watson can’t talk about this stuff without being rebuffed for being anti trans. She has VALUABLE INFORMATION not just about de/transitioning etc but about life.

[@mtmcas]

@fiery but mostly peaceful wow, 1 year ago I learned about this. And it’s still gaining steam. Happy anniversary?

[@adrianaratsch-rivera7561]

To Ben Boyce: This is the best interview I have followed, and I ageee with so many points. This young woman is so super intelligent and has the ultimate insight and is also very courageous to detransition because I agree, it is a cult-like club to be trans! There is a hasty attitude now which I think is, too many people think to give rights to teens, is so necessary!!! They need counselling much more. Especially all the medical intervention which sounds so much like MDs are driven by money. 😱 I think, I was having gender dysphoria as a teen for some time and grew out of it, thank God. But many times, now looking back, it was comorbidity. Other problems where at play, and I am so glad I outgrew it naturally. If I was a teen now, I think I would have become a victim of the overacting scalpel friendly, capitalistic pill pushers that call themselves MDs. As a teen, our hormones are so double minded, female and male hormones go haywire, and for some more than others. At some point, I was mistaken as a boy, up to in my early twenties because of my not having curves. And I liked it because as a guitarist, we as girls/women face so much discrimination from both sides. Men are dominating the world ofguitar and just want to jump into bed with you and not share honest guitar talk, and women, not all, think you only play because you want to attract guys. Even as a classical guitarist! Fluctuating hormones are normal because humans have both inside their bodies and when they get activated during puberty, there is lots going on, tremendous activity for the sake of procreation! That's natural development and some women deny themselves to feel strong and "act like sissies" so as not to become unacceptable by family and classmates, but many women or men feel temporarily confused in their gender at some time because the hormones fluctuate back and forth and settle in their early 20ties. It's now sudden-onset acceptance of just doing the change-over and transition, on the expense of young people who are vulnerable to hormonal changes. My own comorbidity stemmed from having sociopathic relationships that, at the time, seemed I was in love or/and wanted attention, but now I realize, I was innocent and didn't know the difference between sincere love and sick love. So many girls have those weird relationships or were raped/molested, and now think to change the gender will solve problems and it's trendy and acceptable made so by celebrities. It is atrocious to see all this acceptance that they consider as normal which is not normal, except in a few cases. Some people are intersex but most just have fluctuating hormones. They need counselling. This certificate to get a gender accepting act is Hitleresk!!! I hope people wake up before we have a disaster generation. Keep on doing the interviews, I feel there is hope and healing. Tonight I saw some honest talk. Thank you.

[@pjj.5649]

Very well said.

[@MiddlePath33]

I want to be her friend. She is so intriguing. People who suffer are such deep wells and have so much to offer in way of wisdom. I could listen to her all day. But I also wish I could just wrap my arms around her and give her a big hug and make it all better for her. ❤️ if only things were that simple in this world. I loved the part about being an emotional wreck after coming off T. 🤪 I think I have always had hyper female emotional tendencies. My boyfriend loves it. (Not) We could be talking about anything and I’ll catch catch a whiff of a familiar smell and link it to a memory and I’ll change the subject (seemingly randomly) to a memory from childhood. He thinks I’m crazy. Hormones are powerful. How enlightening to have experienced both and have the two perspectives. Keep your head up. There are so many who see what’s happening and are vocal. We just don’t have a big platform. I used to be a liberal. But when I drew the line at altering children permanently I am now considered a conservative bigot. Such a strange turn of events...

[@MiddlePath33]

是我 Right? I can not help it.

[@domfrancis3140]

@@MiddlePath33 and why should you? Love your main comment great to read a message from someone who has compassion and morals.

[@hydraxisfrimon9785]

Transitioning - like changing from one car to another that are both heading off a cliff. You're in a different looking vehicle but the distress is still the same because the mindset hasn't changed. You and your interviewees are doing a good job of by-passing the stifling effects of cancelling and no-platforming, thanks for providing some balance to the vitriol.

[@thomasjust2663]

I personally know 2 trans people very well, they both had depressions and other issues before they transioned they tell me, after the transition they are still suffering from the more or less effects, one of them has told me several times she wishes she would return to being a boy because "being a woman is too much work" her own words!! the other sometimes tells me that at the end of the day, she is nothing but a gay guy dressed in woman's cloths, so both don't really believe they are girls at least not all of the time

[@elizabethkelly8156]

The problem is that the original cases of gender dysphoria were people who felt internally like the other sex (X trapped in a Y body). When you have that condition you cannot comprehend yourself as anything other than the other sex already. When those people are confronted with the fact that their bodies and minds do not align it causes significant distress and confusion. The distress is not something they choose to have but is totally out of their control. Doctors have looked at many aspects to remove the associated distress and have found absolutely no treatment to work including treatments like electric shock therapy. The current diagnosis does not make feeling like you're stuck in the wrong body to be a mandatory experience. Instead just desiring to be the other sex is the only requirement. Due to the loose requirements lots of people are falling through the cracks of an overly expanded medical term. Unfortunately this leads to many people receiving the wrong treatment and getting side effects they absolutely did not ultimately want. The majority of people who transition in modern day rarely consider the effects in 20+ years, and do not think about how they will feel when they're older.

[@MsGreenmermaid]

​@@potapobob3769but what IS the perception of yourself as the opposite sex/female? Like what exactly is the feeling of thinking you are a woman despite not ever being one/having no experience of being one? What drives it do you think? 🤔

[@mihrethagos1513]

I have compassion and respect for her for being bold. It is all money driven and the evil people are benefiting by hurting young, confused and mentally ill people. They are not being told that the medical transition is permanent and irreversible. My hurt goes out for these kids who are being taken advantage off. Lord have mercy on us.

[@mememo3764]

What a wonderful and wise young woman. As a so called "right wing" christian, I enjoy hearing about your journey and how you are sharing your story to help others.

[@clemenssh]

Thank you Benjamin for sharing this beautiful souls story. Wishing her all the best!!!😘🙏

Benjamin, I heard you say, "I just changed a tire". I thought you said, "I just changed attire". I love your word play.

[@StreetsOfVancouverChannel]

bwwwahahahahaha

He thinks that is manly but to me it says he is too poor to afford AAA.

[@crazycasy]

whatever it was it sounded manly AF.lol

[@captainconundrum8463]

Especially with how many times he stops an interview to ask if he should change his shirt.

[@AsDeadAsDillinger]

He probably changed attire AFTER he changed a tyre.

[@oldcronediy486]

Thank you so much for speaking out, this is such a tragic situation all the way around. You are such a wonderfully articulate speaker and I hope you continue to speak up when invited. This is social engineering at it's worst , it really reminds me of " A Brave New World", I would suggest this is being pushed in colleges and now middle school and high school to shut down all debate and investigation. Very , very sad...

[@le77erem]

Thank you for another great interview. So much of what Watson says chimes with my experience as a young person - not the transitioning, but the eating disorders, the hatred of the body, the anxiety of what might happen if I didn't keep tight control, the turning to alcohol (and drugs). Added to this was a lack of awareness of why I was acting like I was. I think that the self awareness and reflection of why we act as we do does not come to us until a lot of us are older, so when I did crazy things, it was because I was 'bad', and I could not see that I was reacting to the social pressures around me and the environment I was in. There are so many young people who flail around blindly through their youth and breath a sigh of relief when they level out in their mid 20's.

[@DefneDance]

This woman gained so much wisdom in life. Hope she keeps sharing it. She sees the whole picture, very refreshing.

[@skeptigal8899]

She is so logical and matter of fact at this point. I’m sorry she had to go through all the drama and pain to get where she is in life now.I wonder how she would be now if people had not enabled her.

[@leifanderson3692]

Thank you. You are the best long form journalist on this topic. Watson, be strong and thank you too!

[@NickyRikki]

She is inspiring and amazing. I love her logic and journey is incredible. Thank you for such a great interview and talk.

[@shireenmcquade1951]

Watson, you have inspired me. I wish I could talk as calmly, kindly, deliberatively as you on subjects I feel strongly about. My concern is the harm to young children and teens and the effect of hormones, hormone blockers, and surgeries on such young people. And the culpability of parents and especially the doctors who violate their oath to first do no harm. Like you, I am no a fan of religion. I’m agnostic from Muslim parents. But you are so polite about it. I will try to keep my attacks on religion to the religious to myself in the future. You are so articulate and smart. Please keep speaking.

[@pollyester6639]

Nicely put maybe you’re calmer than you think

[@martymcfly88mph35]

Thank you Benji for helping these people tell their stories when no one else seems interested in it

[@marcomac8824]

Watson, great interview. You have a remarkable level of insight, and the key is being kind to yourself and to do that you need to build your self esteem. Get yourself back to Uni, you’ve got a great contribution to make, look forward to hearing more from you!

[@Neworldisordered]

Good interview Benjamin. Watson is a smart, thoughtful person who has gained perspective & wisdom after very tough circumstances. Btw..sharing the same mug?

[@lesliesykes-warren5664]

Another wonderful, level headed, sane interview. Thank you both for this honest and illuminating discussion.

[@mamaalaska]

I sincerely want to say thank you to you Mr. Boyce, for bringing this multi faceted, intelligent, and spiritually beautiful young woman to the forefront. This has been a thoroughly and emotionally immersive interview. Please send my respect and care to Ms. Watson. Many blessings to her on her, continued journey. May life bring her many opportunities for joy and happiness.

[@onepartyroule]

I really appreciate how open and honest she is. I love the Glasgow accent too. I wish her all the best for the future.

[@l.s.sharrow1318]

Excellent interview. I'm one of those women that, while influenced by radical feminism, agrees that the one with the power is the one with the $$$. The homeless man on the street does NOT oppress the Queen. The one thing I would disagree with is calling a man a 'she.' "She" didn't rape women in prison, HE did.

[@Nothinggirl]

I’m very similar! I am certainly class first and into some radical feminism. But I think patriarchy is so intertwined with most aspects of society that it affects everything. And I think it’s so normalized we overlook the ways in which patriarchy hurts us every day. And no homeless man will ever oppress the queen of course. If he has male privilege (which he does) doesn’t make him bad or an oppressor. It just means he won’t be facing the systemic issue of sexism. Imagine putting them on the same pedestal, both either are homeless or both are king and queen. Then we see gender can certainly impact their lives. While I am still class first I grew up in a religion and culture where women are second class and I can’t ignore it (and the ways it intersects with capitalism and class)

[@Nothinggirl]

@Charlie Francis there is no systemic structure of sex oppression against men but yes men absolutely do suffer at the hands of patriarchy as well, in many ways. Privilege doesn’t mean your life is automatically easy or improved (this is why I don’t like the word actually) it just means generally, it is something that will not hold you back. Again there are multiple intersections to identities and labels. I don’t care if a homeless man has male privilege, which he does. It’s okay to say yes this person has this, but in many cases it doesn’t matter. I am class first. There are more important things which is why people should look at the bigger picture and the other factors that influence a persons life

[@Nothinggirl]

@Charlie Francis I can’t think of a better word to be honest. And in my culture and where I am from that certainly is the case. The great thing is I have traveled to many, many countries so I speak on a global scale. I have seen too many ways in which women suffer because they are women. Feminism has always been discredited or mocked. What did they do when women tried to vote? Is it really divisiveness between the sexes increasing? One or two generations ago half the population didn’t have a fifth of the options and freedom they do now. Maybe they’re just speaking up now. Intersectionalism is precisely why I would never look at a homeless man and think he has male privilege and that’s it. Again you look at the bigger picture. And is it really divisive rhetoric? Or maybe you just don’t like to hear it? Again I am not concerned with sex or race or religion on a personal level because I am focused on class, but I think it’s alright to acknowledge truths like “privilege”. But I’m also not crazy and would never bring it up just because lol

[@Nothinggirl]

@Charlie Francis oh I totally understand that! That is why I also bring up my frequent travelling. I’ve seen it in many different cultures. And yes I agree. But if it’s one thing I dislike it is liberals and I view a lot of 4th wave stuff as liberal bull. i am very left but I do really dislike identity politics and performative social justice. Both sexes do suffer but I will always maintain that it is under patriarchy that they do. Being exposed to both western and non western feminism I think women everywhere still ultimately need it. I actually am very familiar with incels because I always had a morbid curiosity! I used to lurk the subreddit frequently. They are created for a multitude of reasons. In some ways right but in many delusional. They would get so much further not focusing on women. You wouldn’t believe the crazy stuff I read there! Imagine walking by a man like that in real life. Ah yes I see that too. I have a real problem with taking online stuff seriously. Yes it is real and people think that way, but I often don’t come across it in real life. I really think it is bitterness and hurt on their part. We are all prone to it.

[@niecedspain3568]

@@Nothinggirl I think when our politicians have us so focused on things that are sub issues like something like “patriarchy” we miss the forest for the trees. What people are not seeing is that it’s the politicians period (men and women) that are trying to oppress the masses. We have been lulled into a false sense of security that our world is what they have told us it is. We have been manipulated into seeing what they want us to and thinking the way they want us to snd to focus on anything other than the manipulation they are performing on us. We are all under the spell of these politicians and media. They have pulled the wool over our eyes and we are all in the grasp of communism almost as much as the Chinese, North Korean and Cuban citizens! We though we were different but we were deluded!

[@janeeland4531]

I think you should definitely have your own channel as you are so knowledgeable about this subject and articulate, I just love ❤️ your perspective 😊

[@katelynkloeppel5243]

Oh what a lovely voice😍 oh she's facinating, my heart skipped a beat, so lovely. Watson make a million videos, I could listen to you talk about anything!

[@DavidKirwanirl]

Enjoyable chat. Will be keeping an eye out for Watson in future.

[@DavidSabine]

You are a talented and compassionate interviewer. And Watson is courageously open. This conversation is important and thank you, both, for sharing.

[@DavidSabine]

Correction, at 57 minutes in, the interview is over. The dynamic changes here... To discussion. (which isn't bad, but IS different)

[@puffin463]

Thank God that you awakened, yourself, and saved your life. It is criminal hearing how you were let down by the medical/therapeutic society. You certainly had more signs of illness than gender dysphoria. Yes, you have had to become your own therapist. You are so well spoken and knowledgeable. Because of all you went through in coming to terms with yourself, I think you will be a great help to others questioning their identity, or dealing with any issues adolescents go through. Have you considered becoming a therapist? Thanks, Ben for one more excellent conversation.

[@derewainka]

Love this scottish blunt sense of humour perspective! Thanks for sharing your story, your sense of humour. I'm amazed at the strength it must have taken to face up to all the emotional and social implications of the change back and how you have managed to untangle all your issues. You have all the guts!

[@janmariolle]

Thank you so much for exposing me to this wonderful woman. Watson has much healing to offer to others. She has transformed her suffering into compassion for herself and others.

[@jackierandell1364]

What a refreshing, honest conversation. Thank you Watson and Ben xx

[@LisaC-ic9yg]

Thanks for such a thoughtful interview and i appreciate the lack of politicizing the discussion and the posture of listening by Mr Boyce - so refreshing

[@CharliThinks]

These stories are so important. Every act of courage, in speaking about their personal experience, gives others courage to do the same.

[@constructor5008]

You two are AMAIZING! I could stay listening to you for hours . .. It is a relief to see people being able to question I a smart and healthy way... Thank you so much!!!

[@jonathanbotello3]

mtf here I really do appreciate videos like these, I think it's important that we are able to have an open and honest discussion about this topic. Transition isn't easy and something to be glamorized. For some people, it works. For others, it doesn't.

[@holachika5071]

This discussion is heartbreaking and eye opening. Thank you for reporting. Fascinating guest!

[@VB_Indiana]

I know I'm commenting 2+ years after you made this video, but I'm so glad I stumbled upon it. I admire that both of you are earnestly examining problems of ideologies taking precedence over the actual experiences -- re trans people, issues of racism, of economics, etc. It's not actually helpful to hide behind ideologies. Thank you for being so frank and vulnerable.

[@jongood9106]

This is the best interview I've seen on detransition.

[@dragontoro]

Watson, thank you for your candour. You're helping so many young people.

[@Kegz]

Very powerful interview

[@merryntm5663]

damn i wouldnt have thought I'd see Kegz here

[@patwicksted7114]

What an eloquent reflective young person. I am full of admiration. very moving testimony.

[@broeklien3817]

Such a careful and respectfull speaker. Nice to see that the knowledge she gained didnt radicalize her but it made her wizer. I hope it makes her a happier person too

[@rinwesley3092]

This was such an illuminating talk. She's such an intelligent and fascinating person I'd love to have a conversation with. Best of luck to her.

[@silentforest2894]

This is my first time watching this channel. I am compelled to say how attentive and compassionate the interviewer is. It’s very moving to see. I love how empathic and willing to listen he is.

[@hansmeiser32]

1:53:35 "haaah, this is a good conversation" Indeed, it was. Enjoyed every second of it.

[@auntielaura2937]

Thank you both for your bravery, beauty and humility.

[@SrAJGP]

What a pleasant, intelligent, eloquent person. Cannot believe how much damage the lack of councelling and professionalism can cause on such a person

[@julianamerz9493]

WOW. Incredible interview. THANK YOU!

[@celandinesteenekamp5880]

What an articulate attractive delightful intelligent human being this young woman is. All the best. Keep sharing your journey. It is important for all of us to understand this paradigm shift in human gender experience. If we don't talk about it how do we learn about it?

[@misterdaz1018]

I finally felt like a man at the age of 29 having changed a tire in sub-zero temperatures with only the moon to light what I was doing.

[@DoctorHver]

@strontiumXnitrate Is Biology lost on you as its impossible for male primates to give birth.

[@DoctorHver]

@strontiumXnitrate I see, its unfortunate when comments get removed as when someone else is reading then they only get half the story. Sometimes itsn't obvious as you just described so since it was sarcastic comment I do like your sarcastism. :) but in other case its obvious that something was removed if names of someone is mentioned in respond but the comments by that other person are no were to be found.

[@leeallen3633]

For me it was at the age of 26 when I used ratchet straps to move an ikea bed frame.

[@MamaMac_]

Thank you so much for having a conversation that NEEDS to be had. A conversation that decouples the actual personal experiences from the ideological agenda. Wishing you luck and love as you continue down the path of learning to be kind and compassionate to yourself. ❤️

[@alexxC37]

Thank you for speaking up. The only way we can help kids in the future is to be loud about regret now.

[@adynathaly3145]

Well that's wrong because what about the ones that have success and that are happy for the rest of their lives that is 80% of them

[@BenjaminABoyce]

@adynathaly3145 Child transition has only just begun. The data is nowhere near substantial enough to determine this battery of life altering interventions as beneficial. That said, imagine being submitted to this experiment without your ability to meaningfully consent to it.

[@adynathaly3145]

@@BenjaminABoyce I'm not speaking about children I'm speaking for adults 18 and over . But even younger than that I'm part of a community where I know a lot of success as transitioning before of age. I'm a detransisioner and not once have I felt the way this gentleman has. I support my trans people still ❤️.

[@BenjaminABoyce]

You’re responding to a comment about kids.

[@shireenmcquade1951]

Benjamin, I am so grateful to you for bringing the voices of detransitioners to your program. We get a more balanced view from the people who sought transition, their reasons for doing so, and then reversed course. You are brilliant to have thought of this. I find it so painful to hear their stories of how lost they were as teens or younger, so vulnerable, only to end up in gender clinics with an agenda. It takes so much courage to leave that community and have no safety net. There don’t seem to be any doctors qualified in reversing the effects of the hormone antithetical to their biology. Just a truly miserable, lonely experience. Is there anything I can do to show my support for detransitioners?

[@elizabethdavid9964]

I think the point made about many girls or women having to present in a more masculine way to feel safer is sad. It shows the truth about the dangerous society we live in. I think we fail our children as a society.Thank you for this interview and the honesty.

[@helenamaoz4814]

Wow, what a great interview, and such a intelligent, articulate young woman. Wishing her all the best.

[@jardom7460]

Every now and again someone should bring up Benjamin's admirable openness, kindness, and strength of character. Someone else do it next time.

[@gin1740]

Watson, you are a brave women and I wish you the best in your life's path. Thanks for standing up and giving evidence to your experiences that will help other young people.

[@catherinep3458]

i actually cant get over how intelligent and wise this lady is

[@knit1purl1]

I don't know who's bunny that was, but beyond cute! In the videos I have watched on this channel that have people who have de-transitioned, they all seem to have residual physical traits that remain. I'm not saying that in any disparaging way. I feel bad for the struggles they have been through.

[@BenjaminABoyce]

Testosterone initiates hardening of jaw and brow, hair loss and growth, deepening of voice. The voice can be worked around with conscious training, but once it’s pitched downward it remains there (as far as I know).

[@middleofnowhere1313]

@@BenjaminABoyce thickens the vocal cords right? I'm an alto as is and i can only imagine what would have happened had this been me. X(

[@JamesRWhite-wb6iq]

Thank you so much for this interview! Kudos to Watson for all the insights, you don't get that often. I personally think the gender dysphoria is part of a larger issue which is unfortunately not dealt with appropriately.

[@GB_Gummy]

Both the bunny and Watson have very soothing voices. I hope to see/ hear more from them in the future.

[@eliara-thevoice8430]

The truth is always refreshing. Its great to witness humans who have come through major challenges so well adjusted. Sinead is a pleasure to listen to. She has a beautiful balance of intelligence, wisdom, courage and humility. She is also articulate and warm.

[@knit1purl1]

Just finished watching. Excellent interview and interviewee. Lets hope this eventually implodes.

[@donaldlancaster89]

The ability to question a path you have started down us incredibly rare and takes a great deal of courage.

[@monikaselimovic]

Such an amazing interview. What a clear mental clarity in explaining all of this. Watson is a very touching and beautiful soul. So glad she did this interview, really important voice in today's climate.

[@gtw4546]

Thank you, Watson, for speaking out. You have so much to teach us. Perhaps people in the future will look back on this time as a period of social madness, but we will have learned so much from those who have had an experience of life from both male and female viewpoints, especially when articulated by someone as aware and insightful as you appear to be.

[@verarose6003]

Excellent and such interesting discussion. Wishing the young lady much blessings and happiness in her path. She is so beautiful inside and out.

[@petalparker5]

What a wonderful interview so worth listening to. Watson articulates her experience so intelligently and sensitively. Thanks so much to you both, we can all learn from each other.

[@raqhelreklaw1295]

Bless your heart and courage to talk about your painful story to help others. Peace and love 🥰

[@phyllislovelace8151]

Thank you Benjamin & guest for this measured but honest conversation which one sincerely hopes will move the dial towards more dialogue

[@chandrakai2450]

Easy gender transition is dangerous for people with body image disorders. Once the hormonal changes stop, another transition or body alteration is sought by the sufferer. That’s why some will re-transition after they plateau. They need serious mental health care to deal with the underlying problem. She’s a lovely, intelligent person and I wish her the best.

[@scarlet8078]

I'm not sure why I found this so heartbreaking, I couldn't even listen to it all the way through at once. I'm sorry for what happened to Watson, but I'm glad she's back on track. She seems like a truly sweet person. To quit smoking, I recommend buproprion (aka Zyban, Wellbutrin, etc.). It needs to be ramped up slowly but it's extremely effective. For smoking cessation I keep non-depressed patients on low dose, maybe 100mg for women/ 150mg for men, well below the hundreds of mgs used for depression, weight loss, sexual disfunction in women, and so forth. I warn people against other prescriptions like Chantix which I stopped prescribing due to problematic reactions, but buproprion has been used successfully for decades

[@fabledreamor]

Hormones suppliers benefit from transgenderring movement.

[@LeonieZurakowsky]

@@martinheath5947 Big Pharma is Big Capital. There's nothing Marxist about the #transcult.

[@LeonieZurakowsky]

@@martinheath5947 OK homophobe.

[@AveDistra]

I would like to know A LOT more about the profiteering from this racket

[@AveDistra]

@@deniseg-hill1730 Apparently it isn't a mental health problem....

[@theginjaninja132]

@@AveDistra I've had people argue simultaneously that being trans is a problem with how your brain communicates with the body and that it is not a mental health issue, they don't want answers they want validation and caos

[@Little_Sidhe]

Watson, what a cool person. Wishing all the best to her. In Scotland it's true that a 4yo can go to school and identify as the opposite sex, change their name, and the parents don't have to be notified.

[@ginalouise3478]

Thank you Watson for sharing your story.

[@joan3891]

I’m mortified there is legislation decreasing age. If anything, they should increase the age to 21 so that the kid can buy more time to think it through! Therapy until 21 sounds like a better route.

[@AshleyWilliams-xq7lj]

Exactly. One of my friends socially transitioned at 23 but got cold feet. Several years later, she's so happy she didn't do anything physical. Disturbingly, no therapist tried to figure out why she felt dysphoria. She had to figure it all out on her own.

[@pollyester6639]

Wonderful interview between two sensitive kind souls - how wonderful to learn from these two. The story is distressing and we are looking the other way because the path of resistance comes with risk - so wrong

[@es533]

First thing i thought when i saw the video scrolling- what a pretty girl. I am 100% normal and it was my objective reaction. Wishing you all the best and thank you for speaking up.

[@joannewainwright9127]

Such a wonderful interview. Thankyou Benjamin and Watson.