What They Don't Say About the Magna Carta

What Scottish king is named in Magna Carta... and how did it all pan out? It was thee furthest a Scottish army ever got invading England? Scottish history tour guide Bruce Fummey crosses the border himself to tell the story on his Scottish history channel
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[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Find out why Alexander was upset at kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHyYnHapqtd8jq8 ...or just buy me coffee at www.buymeacoffee.com/ScottishBruce

[@fabriziolugaresi3107]

I'm Italian, since I was a child I've always had a special love and attraction for Scotland, your documentaries are always very interesting, thanks Bruce!🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Wonderful!

[@flautalee3090]

Just trying to catch up on your vids!❤

[@fergussmiles3499]

Bonnie prince Charlie was Italian , welcome brother

[@Man_fay_the_Bru]

@@fergussmiles3499he should’ve stayed there anaw

[@gerryphilly53]

It’s fascinating to learn how messy the history of the island that is home to Scotland, Wales and England actually is. Another informative and entertaining video.

[@graemegardner8962]

An excellent video, Bruce. Dover is my home area and it's refreshing to know a Scotsman knows Alexander II was in my home town. There is a common near Dover called Scotland Common about two miles north of Dover. I'm wondered if this is where Alexander ii encamped his army

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Oooooh, now I wish I'd known that

[@stephenmiller251]

As a Scotsman and grown older I’ve come to love Scottish history but you would have been great as a history teacher when I grew up in Aberdeen. Entertaining and informative.

[@jetwrench2854]

You've got me hook, line and sinker with your brilliant humorous Scottish history miniseries! I need more cowbell! Jamais Arreire

[@francessocha6143]

I wish we’d had a history teacher like you at Montrose Academy when I was a pupil! I knew nothing about this. Haud ga’en, Brucie, you’re educating a retired teacher in the Scottish history she should have known years ago. 👍🏻

[@rabby-u]

Just re-read the war diary of my grandfather from Kilmaurs. Nothing brings me closer to home, but I will say, your videos are up there in my journey to understand my heritage as a son of Scotland . Tioraidh an-drasta. Tha thu sgoinneil!

[@ernesttravers7517]

Lang mae ye cum reek

[@flyboymike111357]

One of the Scots who signed the Magna Carta, Alan of Galloway, who I believe was the Constable of Scots like his Hamlet-esque father Lochlan of Galloway, was a legend in his own right. One of his chief achievements was defending Mann from the Norwegians. Imagine, being a Scottish Lord, Constable of Scotland, and bastard relative of the English monarchy and fighting an entire kingdom with just your men to defend a principality hardly anyone even remembers is on the map.

[@MrMatsudi]

I'd never heard about the northern barons being willing to swear fealty to Alexander, and that's really fascinating. Obviously we generaly know about King John and Magna Carta here in England but that part isn't a detail that's usually brought up. Thanks for expanding my knowledge!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

One aims to please

[@waynewatts8736]

I like your voice it makes the stories so pleasant to listen to. Well done young man!👏👏👏

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Thanks for listening

[@IMeanMachine101]

I know little of Scottish history and find these videos great for learning.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Brilliant

[@LordGrantius]

God help you, poor foo- oh, hi Bruce! Great video!

[@eamonnclabby7067]

The Scots had a day out on the wirral peninsula at the great battle of Brunanburh/Bromborough 937AD, as always thank you for sharing this with us all,best wishes from the wirral....E...

[@CS58420]

My guess was somewhere north or west of London, like Oxford or Luton but Dover never crossed my mind. To make it south of London is quite impressive. I'm now very curious about the details. PS keep up the amazing work Bruce. Love from the town of Perth on the river Tay in Lanark County, Ontario 🇨🇦.

[@nicholasbethell2921]

I loved the football invasion photo slipped in there.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Thanks to Matt my English videographer😂😂

[@neonachas]

3:20 I believe my great to the power of X grandad said they reached a wee village called Portus Dubris (Dover for those who use modern languages). Apparently he reported that Alexander and Louis looked back at France and Alexander said "mark my words Louis, there'll be a tunnel between here and there in a few years time. If you can build the Cathedral of St Denis and we can build St Mungo's, if we can keep this lot under control, we'll be able to build that tunnel no problem", upon which Louis apparently shook his hand. Louis said that if it doesn't work out, their grandchildren or their successors should look at forming an alliance. Somehow, the English heard about the tunnel proposal and decided they didn't want Louis any more as a tunnel would mean the French could be in England too quickly and, well, you know their attitude to the French, don't you.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I did hear that right enough

[@ruthanneseven]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣❤️

[@nancyholcombe8030]

😂😂😂

[@fearthekilt]

Superb story Bruce my friend! Enjoyed it very much as usual. Thanks for your time and good morning from America.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Good morning!

[@janetmackinnon3411]

You keep on educating us! Thank you.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

One tries

[@highlandergl]

Good Evening , I'm Polish guy who loves history and accidentally living in Scotland last 18 years ;) I discovered your channel some time ago and I love your unorthodox approach to the history teaching, but i was quite stunned when i noticed in the begining of this episode painting from the battle which happen far away from Scotland and England in the country of my origins and 200 years later than the story you talking about in this episode.I'm wondering if it's some kind of mistake or hidden message? ;) The painting is called Banner of Liviv in the battle of Grunwald.Why I was thought about hidden message , because that city " Semper fidelis", belongs to Ukraine in todays time and its freedom is threaten again as it was 612 years ago . I hope it will emerge victorious again. Have a good evening, sir.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😂😂 No, it's just a mistake. I'll get on to my staff

[@fergussmiles3499]

Bonnie Prince Charlie’s granny was Polish

[@highlandergl]

@@fergussmiles3499 well ,his mother Maria Clementina Sobieska been born in Silesia, region I come from , it's been Holy Roman Empire that time , now is Poland.She was granddaughter of Jan III Sobieski, one of the greatest king of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the savior of Vienna.

[@BigRedJed]

I enjoyed this and laughed oot loud twice. That's high praise fae a Fifer.

[@scottferguson48]

Good day Bruce you did it again another great video. Well done 👍. Elgin

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Thanks 👍

[@tovel67]

loving your history shows, keep up the good work

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Thanks, will do!

[@colinsmith1288]

Interesting you mention the french. That was why the Norman's defeated the English king in 1066. Because William the conquerer believed he had been denied the English throne promised to him earlier. So the pattern of English broken promises had already begun at that stage. Still pretty scary to think Scottish soldiers made it so far south into England. Tough bunch the Scots were and still are. Could you imagine though being an English villager back in the day watching as thousands of Scotsmen with battle cry in their hearts marching towards you. I personally would be doing a runner.

[@kathleenferguson3296]

Yes. The Normans, from Normandy, were settled Vikings- Normanorum in Latin. The most common prayer at the time was "A furore Normanorum libere nos, Domine." "From the fury of the Norsemen deliver us, O Lord." Not a bunch to be trifled with.

[@Gambit771]

We won't talk about the pattern of french broken promises.

[@janice506]

I’m imagining that sight right now & cant help laughing to myself as a wee smile crosses my lips lol

[@johnc2988]

The 1215 magna Carter was annulled by the Pope. A second Magna Carter was brought into law after John's death under the guidance of William Marshall. Curiously a lot of the stuff related to the 'lower orders in society' was left out of the second charter. The copy in the US of A is, I believe, the second charter.

[@nickthenoodle9206]

Love this series.

[@eamonnclabby7067]

Me too....

[@darv66]

It could be argued that the jacobites never really stopped invading, i can bear testiment to this coming from Blackpool, the fighting on scotch weekend got so intense in the 70s and 80s i had to flee to France where i remain in exile to this very day 😁😁🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@234cheech]

lol

[@duneideann9241]

Brilliant as usual

[@vallovesnature8449]

Thank you for sharing this with us Bruce!!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

My pleasure!

[@colinp2238]

Of course I lost the bet, I always thought it was Derby because of Murray. I was going to say "if I was making that video from the beer garden there would have been the bonus of a pint or two of Marston's Pedigree," then I realised that it should read that if I was in that beer garden etc and that for you it would be a pint of the black stuff. Thanks Bruce I learned a lot from this video.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

It was early in the morning and the pub wasn't even open do no drink was taken

[@Scot-Tube]

I knew this! Having a smug cup of tea. Great video, as per, btw

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Enjoy yer cuppa!😎

[@MrSinclairn]

LOL,'the sneaky b*****d died'!🤣.Which is why John has the nickname of 'Lackland',he lost territorial control everywhere in such a short space of time from Northern England to the extensive Angevin/Plantagenet lands overseas in France(but never knew about the Siege of Dover,until now)!

[@shelleyphilcox4743]

John was called Lackland before this. The Angevin empire was promised in each seperate part to the eldest sons...so Henry the Young King was to get England, Normandy, Anjou and Maine, Richard was to inherit Acquitaine and Toulouse, and Geoffrey was to get Brittany...and there was not anything to leave to John, hence John Lackland. Henry carved out pieces of territory from the empire to give to John, but that really made Eleanor and Richard, who was to inherit it from his mother, angry, as it was high handed and Henry the Younf King was also irked that his father might be taking important Territories and redistributing based on who his favourites were. John was also told that he could have lands in Ireland if he could take the territory and hold it. Originally it may well have been the intention for John to go to the church as many younger sons did, but that clearly wasnt going to happen, However, as all his older brothers died, he became the heir because his mother, Eleanor, backed him to be made King over her grandson Arthur, child of Geoffrey who was Duke of Brittany through marriage to Constance when Geoffrey had an accident and died. Arthur eventually disappeared under John's 'care'. He did however lose most of the Angevin Empire and eventually Englands barons stopped backing him and he died fleeing the consequences. William the Marshal, married to Isabel of Struighil, then held the country together as regent till John's son reached his majority. William Marshall was a very impressive man politically and militarily...interesting life!

[@KMaCK8848]

Love your videos. Keep 'em coming.

[@Dabs851]

I live about 5 miles from Swarkestone bridge, and see the cairn often when heading into Derby

[@TheTruthseeker37]

Been a while since I had watched the channel, and this vid reminded me why I'll keep returning, the sneaky bar steward dying had me laughing loud enough to wake the dog. Informative and humouros as always.

[@stewartfenwick3658]

One of your best Brucey I am very impressed at the interlinking of tales and at our ancestors’ chutzpah

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@autiejedi5857]

I wish all the time that Boudica had kept going. Wonder how the island would have looked today if they had fully routed the Romans. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💜

[@sanderson9338]

She would of got battered in the North way before Scotland her forces were not as impressive as some groups north of the Iceni and her supporters wouldn't have fought other brithonnic tribes

[@annasaylor3566]

Awsome. Since I've been watching you; I've been digging into my family's background and history and found out quite a bit so far. I love your channel, thank you. Have good day 😊 ☮️🌹🦋❤️🇺🇸

[@johngarven2125]

Great Video Bruce!... more so especially since we both come of Perth folk.

[@pikeyMcBarkin]

Thanks for the video Bruce! All the best

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Thanks for watching!

[@johnnyphoenix1223]

That’s incredible thanks for sharing

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Thanks for watching!

[@robertdalziel2955]

So informative love it only subscribed few months ago so much to catch up on x

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Welcome aboard!

[@Alanginger]

Many thank for this most interesting channel

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Our pleasure!

[@EdgarStyles1234]

Since we're speaking about King John, would you do a video about Jews in Scotland, how they avoided tower of York situations, and mass expulsions etc. As a half Scottish and half Ashkenazi guy I've read that the Scots never persecuted us the same and that in fact the Scottish Rite comes from Jewish learning leaving England during the expulsion

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Somebody has mentioned this to me before. I don't really know anything about it right now. I'll maybe get round to it.

[@EdgarStyles1234]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours honoured you'd reply so quick wow. Thank you

[@EdgarStyles1234]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours I could send you some resources, I'll try and find your email. I'll try and get books to recommend but unfortunately so many aren't scanned yet to pdf. Hopefully you have a decent library by you. Not sure where you reside. I'm in Toronto and have u of ts great library here as a resource. I'll try and find your email. And maybe send you scans worse comes to worse. I think it's a worthwhile video idea for sure. Thanks again

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

[e-mail] Be aware though that folk ask me to cover stuff every week so it's not a guarantee

[@EdgarStyles1234]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours oh brother I get it. It's just that so much of masonry and the very ancient traditions that were kept alight in Scotland during turmoil in England are fascinating

[@StoicHistorian]

Love your videos man

[@nancyholcombe8030]

I knew that Alexander II had gotten to London from my University history books over here across the pond. Had no idea he had gotten to Dover! Guess I need to find a way to somehow get some of those books from over there that you've been talking about. Might get the history right at least! Then again, America's 'allowed' history books don't even get OUR history right 😁😁😁

[@uponeldritchshores]

Always the poet Bruce! Tapadh Leibh!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

'S e do bheatha

[@brianhewlitt2989]

And... as a second-generation Canadian of Scots and Irish parents, with no ancestry linked to anyone of significance (not, Wallace, The Bruce, Prince Charlie, Burns or even a bench-warmer on either the Celtics or Rangers), past a rather imposing police officer from Edinburgh and a modest Glaswegian office clerk, I have none-the-less viewed and enjoyed everything you have produced...and have had a few laughs along the way too. Carry-on and I will be over soon to buy you a "coffee" in person and perhaps engage on a walk-about together... Slainte!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😘

[@jimmyboco8968]

I’d love to hear more on my local history, Midlothian, the battle of Roslin .. the castle and Wallace’s cave.. if you have stories to tell on them, or anything else in the local area

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/b37diXWamJWappY

[@robnorth480]

Parts of this tie in nicely with my family history. I'm now living in the ancient capital of Scotland and now city of Dunfermline, was born and brought up in the Thames Valley (visited Runnymede as an ankle biter) and part of my family came from Kent (OK, not Dover but the same county!).

[@daviddavidk2352]

Sort of similar for me, now live in the Thames Valley but for 100s of years the family was in Kent (Warehorne) but ancestors were from Dunbar.

[@bhgardeners]

As always it is not the English people who had a particular dislike of the Scottish peoples ,although these days the idea is widely promulgated, but the usual infighting between the Gentry land owners of both nations created the scenario for hatreds to develop. Putin starts a war and the Russian people must follow ,in those days when a noble ,king or otherwise started a violent disagreement ,it was the people who HAD to fight and who suffered whether they liked it or not. Nothing has changed Politicians get on their high horses and we the people pay the price either in war or Taxes.

[@janice506]

But it was the English who shat on Scottish & Welsh culture & languages.

[@geoffreywestlock3212]

Here is a suggestion, that I think would make a great video. Why not do a video with the "English version of you" as in an English KZbin historian. The pair of you could talk about this or that piece of history , each from a different perspective "English and Scottish" if you could work in a Welshman and an Irishman as well, that would be really interesting.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

We've actually thought of that and might just do it with an Englis tour guide at some point

[@geoffreywestlock3212]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours Holy Crap an actual answer from the actual channel host. I was sure that some scamming bot had answered (I really do think that the dueling perspectives would be interesting)

[@eamonnclabby7067]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours or a scouser...

[@lorrainegunn4111]

I would suggest Dick Strawbridge, as he used to work as an archeological engineering consultant on the Time Team Series, was a Lieutanant Colonel in the British Army, and lived in France for at least 9 years while filming: "Escape to the Chateau" for Channel 4 TV. I think your debates would be classic!

[@mattdragonrider7888]

im scottish and these days i live near Peterborough , there is a place not far from me called Bruce Castle ,it was the ancestral home of Robert the Bruces grandfather ,i never knew that we got as far as dover

[@eamonnclabby7067]

Fiona Bruce is from Heswall here on the Wirral....

[@daviddavidk2352]

The De Brus family were Anglo Normans with lands in modern England and Scotland. I think Bruce recently did a video about them.

[@willatkinson9729]

Brilliantly informative Bruce. Thank you.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Very welcome

[@davidmartin2957]

The furthest a Scottish army ever reached in England was Wembley it was the Tartan army. We got banned.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Wrong, but I hope you liked the picture😁

[@moscowflyer1850]

😂😂😂😂 Nae tae be worried about. There nae going far in Qatar. Lol. Just banter. Love all the vid.s. 👍

[@ZensPlaceyt]

Love the vids the perspective of the scottish and english is an interesting subject and you are doing it justice😶‍🌫, will have to do a "23 and me" someday to find out which side I might be on. GG brother from the same mother back there somewhere🤣👍✌

[@ruthanneseven]

I've read many times that My Heritage is the best company for European ancestry results. My G.Gran et al was born in Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿, but my DNA just says NW European. Expanding, I get lumped in as having Vikings for ancestors. Yes, they certainly traveled! That's just my Mom's side...

[@ZensPlaceyt]

ya them vikings sure new how to have fun back then, but more like finding a distant cuz that just like you but diff :)

[@ruthanneseven]

@@ZensPlaceyt I've made a good friend,online, with Angela-A Scottish View. It's almost like having a brain-twin with what we watch on TV! I often wonder if we're related, 7ntil I recall that my favorite people are UN-related to me. 🤯🤗🖖

[@ZensPlaceyt]

@@ruthanneseven I'm glad you made friends connection is the main thing in life to enjoy reciprocation of one's thoughts and feelings, just remember we're all from this rock. We are kind of all related 😋😂

[@mikhailabunidal9146]

Madainn mhathhBrus ! Good morning 🌅 Bruce !!!!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Aloha😎

[@mrnice7570]

Bruce please do a video on the black dinner. Love your channel 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Mibbys. It just seems like it's been covered

[@euansmith3699]

Reading the name "the black dinner" I was expecting something like the Erfurt Latrine Disaster; but, a bit of Googling reveals the black dinner was a lot more choppy than drowny.

[@sashaneemoht8764]

"Eh?......the sneaky B.......! " As a War Tactic I must remark that it's a wee bit extreme Bruce, even for John, methinks.

[@1981Marcus]

Yet another great video! I'm going to be incredibly pedantic though and point out that Louis technically wasn't the Dauphin. The title comes from the lordship of Viennois, which wasn't given to the heir to the French crown until 1350.

[@elendil7]

Dover!? I had no idea.

[@julli1984]

Just an idea for a new film, and it might cost a bit of travel. I'm talking Goth culture, and I don't know all the places, but let's start with one. Goth comes from the name Gothenburg, and is a very Scottish thing. It was pups started around mining facilities, but since back then, you got your weekly pay in a bag, and many men would turn them in to liquid. Of cause the owners of the mines would not like that, and since most coal was exported to Sweden, they took back a part of the culture. This is called spritbolaget, a system that limits how much alcohol you can buy. All the pups were named Gothenburg, and feel free to correct me, but I think there were 14, and there are still 7 left, but most have other names. I just want to point one out, and that is the Gothenburg in Prestonpans. The sealing has the history painted on the ceiling, but I have no clue how to read it. I can tell you a bit about the local mine, and the hidden areas, but you will find this pub interesting, just for the sealing. I like your videos, and I know a bit about the mining and where the Goth culture came from, and it's mostly from Prestonpans, not Whitby as some might belive. Goth is more Scottish than English. Keep up the good work :)

[@skraidantysprotezai9007]

Thank you🙂 how it say right...like !!!!!!!!!!!every story even know~no~ lot about Scotland mean it and same about history.Thank you!!

[@Sandwich13455]

great video 👍

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Thank you 👍

[@Sandwich13455]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours it should be me thanking you, this was entertaining and informative.

[@kenbrown2808]

I'm guessing they got to Normandy, found out what they drink down there, and turned around and went home for some proper refreshment.

[@DH.2016]

That's a good point. If, technically, Normandy / English occupied France at the time of Henry V and Joan of Arc is considered to have been part of England then should it have been the Scottish army fighting for France at that time that should get the prize for getting the furthest south?

[@stevenduffy599]

The furthest a Scottish army got in to England was the battle of the standard .during the anarchy.. The army which was at Dover was less than 200.the army at Nottingham was 4000 headed by the Scottish King himself.the first incursion by a monarch of these Isles into another country

[@andrewharper3165]

Love this one , the most successful strategic sneaky underhand thing King John had ever done was to die. LMAOFF!

[@RoberttheFox0001]

Brilliant Bruce!!!!!!!!!!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

thanks Robert

[@alexanderwaite9403]

Smashing! Great vid!!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@jeremyanderson4956]

Imagine being a southern English person at that time probably never having seen a tartan in your life and all of the sudden hundreds of them are in your town... "there's so much blue and plaid!!!! 😳"

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I think you may have misunderstood the era we were talking about

[@jeremyanderson4956]

@Scotland History Tours didn't the knights and soldiers wear tartan sashes? Or is that a Hollywood/artistic myth? 🤔 I know artists took liberties with art.

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

That memorial to Runnymede is actually American territory. The only bit in Europe.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Yep

[@leethornton6395]

So, Charles III can claim back the USA for the crown since the USA has accepted land in England or can Biden claim the UK for the USA

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

@@leethornton6395 neither.

[@nickthenoodle9206]

Just checked the net. It was Dover!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

You didn't need to check the net. It was in the video

[@nickthenoodle9206]

@@ScotlandHistoryToursI hadn't reached that part yet 😀.

[@marshadulz819]

Thanks!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Ah Marsha, you are a legend

[@marshadulz819]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours Only in my own mind. lol Americans should study the Magna Carta.

[@divarachelenvy]

fascinating as usual, cheers..

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Many thanks!

[@anthonyferris8912]

Great stuff.

[@douglasherron7534]

Dover! Now that's a waaay farther south than I expected... Do you think they nipped over on the ferries to France for some cheap bevvies? 😂

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Bound to have

[@douglasherron7534]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours Great video Bruce. Before this video I always thought Worcester was the farthest south a Scottish army got... Now I know I was wrong!

[@DH.2016]

Good stuff, Bruce. I forgot about the siege of Dover Castle. I've visited it and it was a great day's outing (but I'll not say anything about the castle in case it spoils your next video). [p.s. No doubt you got in for free with your Friends of Historic Scotland membership (half price if only your first year)? 😉] [Edit: I've just 'replied' to 'Ken Brown' below thanks to an idea Ken gave me. Basically, if, technically, Normandy / English occupied France at the time of Henry V and Joan of Arc was considered to have been part of England then should it have been the Scottish army fighting for France at that time that should get the prize for getting the furthest south?]

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

It's a thought kzbin.info/www/bejne/iICqZZWHr5esl9k

[@DH.2016]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours Thanks for the link. Enjoyed that, too (& posted your latest subscriber total). 👍

[@Jordan-xn4ed]

Haaaaaaang on one minute, right I'm from Liverpool and I've just watched the movie "The lost king" there's some fella in the pub talking and I'm saying to my Mrs I'm sure that's the bloke off the Scottish history KZbin channel I watch, and she's like nahh. Launching your acting career in secret. Brucey boy, or shall I say "Hamish" 😉

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😂😂

[@kevthecontrarian1614]

Another great tail from "The Bard of Balthayock". Thats cleard up a great deal from your last video for me, thanks. Oh and I'm not a fan of the format you suggested I've been hacked whilst using it.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

What format?

[@kevthecontrarian1614]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours WhatsApp or maybe its just me being paranoid?

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

There's a scam going on where the scammers use a youtuber's picture and send them elsewhere to a WhatsApp thing. I've seen a number of accounts being used. If you notice the account name won't be Scotlandhistorytours, but they'll use my avatar picture. I've seen them do this on several accounts. I don't get notified of what comments appear on your comments, so there's no way of me tracking and policing it without checking every single comment on a regular basis to see if a scammer has replied to a comment. You can imagine that would be impossible

[@kevthecontrarian1614]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours no worries thanks for the heads up.

[@mildandbitter]

How far south? Too far! I do enjoy your channel depite being an English patriot.

[@hotelsierra86]

Always maintained the border should be just north of the Isle of Wight. Save a lot of squabbling.

[@kirkmorrison6131]

A very interesting video thanks

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Very welcome

[@007JHS]

It wasn't us so calm doon. ... good line. As far south as York perhaps?

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😂😂

[@michellerhodes9910]

Ok - now I said straight off the top of my head 'Derby' knowing that our Bonnie Prince Charlie got that far; and the capital of England then would be Winchester so I am not sure they got so far but may be the borders of Hampshire around Reading or Oxford area would be my guess. Close enough to feel the knife lol

[@Simon_W74]

I am going to hazard a guess of it being around the Birmingham area we know now. Otherwise not a Scooby as to how far that the Scots got.

[@mikeygilmour4635]

I guess Canterbury... Ugh, close. I was even going to put Dover. Och well

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Oooft

[@helenswan705]

Never would have guessed Dover. My guess was maybe Lincolnshire!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

There ye go

[@steveforster9764]

Trying to remmber which Anglo Scottish writer said "If you put the English and Scots on the same island they will fight each other "

[@euansmith3699]

My guess was "Derby"; so I'd already failed when Bruce asked us to put our guesses in comments.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😂 You're a success to me Euan

[@steveosborne2297]

I must admit like the Jacobites I really go past that pub without stopping

[@alistairsavoury1074]

We'll be visiting Scotland over the festive season, do you have any merchandise near Auchterader?

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Merchandise you can get in my online shop at www.scotlandhistorytours.co.uk/shop 😎

[@alistairsavoury1074]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours Ahhhh but we want to meet you too.🙂

[@sovereignjoe5730]

Haha, i think the British & English didn't like the Norse Normans too much, who had invaded at Hastings in 1066AD. It looks like they resented William the Bastard Conqueror and yearned for their natural unalienable Common Law system that King Alfred the Great had helped to restore with the assistance of Bishop Asser of St. Davids in modern day Pembrokeshire. The mythical Robin Hood and his band of merry men were possibly based on real characters who were lawful 'rebels' and who were opposed to Norman treachery & Tyranny and worked to help restore the natural unalienable Common Law Constitutional principles of England and Britain, which led to the writing & sealing of Magna Carta 1215 with it's notorious Great Constituional Security & Restoration Clause - Article/Chapter 61. Now that's a juicy story.

[@alicemilne1444]

I think you may be mixing a few things up there. Alfred the Great of Wessex and Bishop Asser lived in the 9th century, a good 150 years before William the Conquerer arrived in England. You may possibly be thinking of the Danes who had invaded and subjugated certain kingdoms in England (Mercia and East Anglia), and imposed the Danelaw on them. One of those Danish kings was Cnut, known in English as Canute (because the "cn" sound is difficult for English people to pronounce). Robin Hood is an English figure. It is very doubtful if he had anything to do with the Magna Carta. That's a myth made up later. The Robin Hood legend probably started in York. None of that has anything to do with "Britain", as there was no political entity known as "Britain" then. And it certainly had nothing to do with the law, constitutional or otherwise, in Scotland as Scottish Law was based mainly on Roman Law at the time. I remember as a child back in 1965 when the whole of the UK got a bank holiday to celebrate the Magna Carta, and we in Scotland were saying, what has this got to do with Scotland. We enjoyed the day off anyway.

[@sovereignjoe5730]

@@alicemilne1444 thanks Alice, sorry, i could have written what i did better or more clearly. When i said about the British & English people that were alive between the Norman & post-Norman times from 1066 & 1215 who may have been yearning back to better times, that may have gone back 250 years or so, back towards the time of King Alfred the Great, .. hope that makes it sound a bit clearer about what i was intending to express. Much appreciation.

[@sovereignjoe5730]

P.s. I think Britain was a known entity back then as the Romans & Greeks, .. described these islands in their own language, as we would perhaps describe them now as the British Isles and the largest island as Great Britain? Mercia, Wessex, Powys, Gwynedd, Northumbria, Pictland, Scotland, .. were all transitionary kingdoms on Great Britain and at times it is claimed that there were agreed High Kings of Britain.

[@alicemilne1444]

@@sovereignjoe5730 The problem with the terms Britain, Great Britain, and the British Isles is that they have been used at different times over the millennia to mean completely different things. Mostly, they have been used for political spin. And the various histories that used the terms have to be taken with a very large pinch of salt as they were following political, ecclesiastical or imperial agenda. I personally don't think it's a good idea to mash all that up into one big stew.

[@sovereignjoe5730]

@@alicemilne1444 I don't see it as a Problem Alice, the word Britain has been misued but i suppose similar could be said of the Scotti, ..

[@nickthenoodle9206]

Runnymede?

[@jamesmontgomery7016]

I love your channel I am a Montgomery but the Montgomery line I come from said they came from France in the late 1700s?

[@brianhewlitt2989]

How 'bout as far south as York? Oh wait... Dover Castle!?! I was waaay off...

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😜

[@davidarchibald50]

Ah Bruce, the furthest South the Scots invaded was much further south of that wee village London. Now the English would delude themselves that they colonised new Zealand, but we know better. The capital of the great southern land was always meant to be Dunedin (the Southern Edinburgh), it's just that the Australians could'na accept our terms. They split off into a country we call West island (we are taking it back for the original inhabitants as I write). Still, to this day, the citizens of Otago continue to wage war on the English usurpers on the rugby field ( they rather unsportingly refuse to allow shields and claymores when we repulse the Aucklanders).

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I've been to Forsyth Barr to watch a heluva repulsion back north to Christchurch. I'll be coming to do a show in Dunedin in March. I hope you'll come along

[@thecelticprince4949]

As a Hurricaner I agree with you with regard to the that unruly mob from the West Island. And New Zealand did have the Jacobite crown from 1998- 2010. While Dunedin is a lovely city. It's just way too cold. However Sir should we ever meet I'll have a Speights wi ye.

[@neonachas]

Ye've got thon wee English village North o' ye, an' I believe they ayeways bring on the cuddies wearin' curtains an' wear tin suits aw'while thrashin' their ain swords aw ower the place when they're oot on the rugby field. Yet they're gey scared o' the skirl o' the pipes though. Ah'm in that wee placie named after Mrs Broon's Iron Duke.

[@marypetrie930]

@@neonachas I see your speaking the old Northumbrian dialect!

[@davidarchibald50]

@@neonachas 🤣

[@dominicward3523]

Denied potential players for the international rugby team 😂😂😂 Brilliant Bruce.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😜

[@paulbrocklehurst5993]

Wow that far south, I was thinking London

[@par576]

I was born in Carlisle but we lived in Gretna. What am I? Don't answer that!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

You is what you is

[@bengtolafsdottir8809]

Scots army all the way to Dover. 😎👍respect. could any english army do as well? 🤔 thanks for your videos

[@euansmith3699]

Of course, in 1978, Ally's Tartan Army was spotted as far south as Argentina.

[@orionspero560]

My guess is that you will get south of london but north of the northern part of cornwall

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Were you right

[@orionspero560]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours I am trying to find out. I've been looking at the maps. I'm having trouble telling where north cornwall is relative to dover in a north south sense.

[@orionspero560]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours Looks like maidstone and canterbury where I was thinking of it's just a little bit north of dover. I was off by about twenty miles north south.

[@robjeffrey270]

I enjoy watching these videos I'm actually a ancestor of Thomas bruce of clackkmans the 1st

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

An ancestor you say?