What to do if you run wide in the corner

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MCrider - Motorcycle Training

MCrider - Motorcycle Training

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Last week we talked about corners being a leading cause of crashes on a motorcycle. We defined the problem and talked about who was at risk. This week I give you some tips if you actually do come in too hot in a corner on your motorcycle.
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@yahyaabushaheen589
@yahyaabushaheen589 3 жыл бұрын
Well I used to be terrified of corners until I started to stay on to the breaks to middle corner. There I was in full control and never run wide or enter the corner too fast.
@stevemangini3521
@stevemangini3521 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kevin for what you do!! I was riding south out of Dallas on I-45 one Sunday morning had the highway nearly to myself. I set the cruise on 85 and kicked back. I was riding in the left side of the outside lane my brother was behind me in the right side of the same lane. I came up on a curve that was much sharper than the previous curves and did not setup appropriately and was staring at the white solid line and the shoulder approaching very quickly. I told myself to look deep into the curve, and very calmly touched the front brake ever so slightly. The cruise control disengaged, the front forks compressed slightly and a smooth push on the handle bar in the direction of the turn saved what could have been a bad day. I am a new rider, one year and 6,000 miles. The knowledge that I have gained from your channel greatly attributed the successful outcome of a curve that was going bad in a hurry!
@Fantasiawave
@Fantasiawave 2 жыл бұрын
Don't go 85 mph in a curve on cruse or off cruse unless possibly with a drag bike
@PaulsMotoZen
@PaulsMotoZen 3 жыл бұрын
Following the speed limit is also a good way to avoid crashing in turns. Most sharp turns have a posted speed limit which is safe for most vehicles to take into consideration. Ignoring the posted speed limits is unlawful and puts everyone at a higher risk.
@Trickhorn
@Trickhorn 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on!
@nbt3663
@nbt3663 3 жыл бұрын
The yellow speed limit sign alway gives me an idea of how tight the turn is. Riding is fun, Tickets are not!
@drmatt357
@drmatt357 3 жыл бұрын
“Ignoring the posted speed limits is unlawful and puts everyone at risk”. You need a dose of reality. Motorcyclist are habitual speeders. Due to the power to weight ratio compared to cars or trucks and their maneuverability make it so. Those posted corner speed limits are set for the lowest common denominator, like an 18 wheeler loaded with hay that is top heavy AF. If you need to slow to that 15mph limit to make the corner, you most likely need some seat time at a track to work on your cornering.
@Wheel-1
@Wheel-1 3 жыл бұрын
Very true. Where i live SE Ohio Autos love to shove you through corners by riding up on you . Happens every time i ride
@davesmith2155
@davesmith2155 3 жыл бұрын
You DO, I hope, know that those yellow speed signs are speed suggestions designed primarily for trucks and high COG vehicles and inexperienced automotive drivers.
@jdelv86
@jdelv86 3 жыл бұрын
Running wide is a problem sooner or later for riders. These are good solutions, but you can also slow more with brakes or closed throttle in the turn to tighten your line.
@earlaker
@earlaker 3 жыл бұрын
8:15 "Don't blame me. You're the one who came into that corner too fast." OMG, I'm still laughing! Absolutely true, though! 🤣
@alanbrown5593
@alanbrown5593 3 жыл бұрын
1) Don't panic 2) Relax 3) Countersteer 4) Keep leaning bike over 5) Exit corner 6) Start breathing again ! 5) Take advanced training to improve your riding. If your pegs aren't touching the deck, you can still lean further over.
@alanbrown5593
@alanbrown5593 3 жыл бұрын
@You are correct But Or you're cleaning underneath the bike.
@nemosis100
@nemosis100 3 жыл бұрын
When I first started I noticed myself paying attention to the speed and not the turn when I panicked, stay focused, relax and just like you said above
@Cutloe
@Cutloe 3 жыл бұрын
@@nemosis100 I actually do that now. Just started riding like 2 weeks ago.
@MrFurley69
@MrFurley69 3 жыл бұрын
Remind yourself to not target fixate. I've had to literally remind myself before, as going into what I'm trying to avoid. Some people think quicker than others, and it's definitely a blessing.
@MrFurley69
@MrFurley69 3 жыл бұрын
@You are correct But yep, trust the bike, and get into it. Hopefully you have good tires, and all is well
@chuckvt5196
@chuckvt5196 3 жыл бұрын
I pay attention to the speed limit posted before you go into the corner. I will guarantee if you are obeying that limit, you will not run wide.
@VoyagingVoyager
@VoyagingVoyager 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@brianmoffit2012
@brianmoffit2012 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the Neolithic my dad taught me how to drive a car and rule 3 was look down the road a mile or so you see what the other idiots are doing in time to do something about it.
@mjs6157
@mjs6157 3 жыл бұрын
When i learned to drive ( a lot of cars had stick shift than). The logo was " Look out for the other guy"
@robertYTB78g
@robertYTB78g Ай бұрын
The countersteering tip and lowsiding at worst is a Gem no other video has given me so far. Ideally not cornering too soon or too fast, trail braking and looking ahead will stop me running wide (again...) , but the more tools and understanding the better. Thank you for posting.
@apsalar_coruscan
@apsalar_coruscan 3 жыл бұрын
Or... Hear me out... Just go to the brakes, smoothy. As our speed decreases, so does our radius. Lean angle is finite and that limit is reached quickly on some bikes. Looking further through a corner is irrelevant if the corner is blind. Entering later is silly if you're already in the corner.
@mhoeij
@mhoeij 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 100% with you on this. I can't believe that Kevin didn't mention this. He did mention delaying corner entry, but guess what, that gives you more time for braking! Then, if you still go to fast at corner entry, just continue to brake (front brake only, for the rear just use engine braking). So many riders (because they've been taught that) go on the throttle in the corner even when they know their speed is already too high. But speeding up when the speed is already too high, that's just bananas. If the speed is too high, don't use the throttle, instead, stay on the brake. This is just common sense, and Kevin should have mentioned it.
@motonorge1172
@motonorge1172 2 жыл бұрын
I turn off the trutle it makes the bike slow down and I need less leaning
@georgehooper6955
@georgehooper6955 3 жыл бұрын
I have used another technique: if I start into a curve and find it’s tighter than expected for my speed (usually a blind turn in a wooded area), as long as i haven’t gotten to the apex yet I will very quickly straighten out and stand the bike up, then brake very hard for a split second, then re-lean into the turn using the push/pull method. It’s surprising how much tighter you can turn after losing just a little speed. It will initially put you a little closer to the centerline but then you’ll be able to finish the turn in your lane.
@larryfedewa9636
@larryfedewa9636 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for for the information you provide, it inspired me to get back into riding at 76 years old. I was a self taught rider sense I was 15 and never really thought about what I was doing, just riding naturally, two years ago I sold my Harley because I wasn't comfortable with such a heavy bike. After watching your and other videos I really wanted to get back into riding. I did a lot of research on various bikes and decided on the Honda Rebel 500. It turned out to be the perfect bike for me, at 400 pounds and plenty of power for an old man like me on the street. I've already put 600 miles on it in crappie spring weather and absolutely love this bike. After riding for more than 60 years I had never heard the idea of countersteering and looking where you want to go. These two ideas alone, along with a 400 pound bike have put the joy of riding back in my life. I never actually knew that I had complete control of the lean of the bike With the simple push of the handlebar. With this knowledge the only way I'll go down in a curve is on the low side. Thank you for your valuable lessons,they have made me a better and more comfortable rider.
@mjs6157
@mjs6157 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin just wanted to say "thanks". Your video on why cars don't see bikers on rode helped me identify a car that turned left in front of me. I watched the driver make quick left and right head turns looking at traffic. I knew from your video's he was looking thru me for on coming cars, and out he came in front me. I was already braking as he came out, he saw me and "stopped" in my lane.
@marksfarmcraft1888
@marksfarmcraft1888 3 жыл бұрын
Subconsciously, drivers are looking for cars, not bikes. And yes...look through you.. Been riding for 50 years, sport bikes for 40. Seen this many times. Rule of thumb...never assume...never trust. Pay attention!
@marksfarmcraft1888
@marksfarmcraft1888 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and your dedication to rider safety! I'm sure you've saved many lives. Bless you! Been rider most all of my sixty years. I teach to whoever will listen. May I add one comment: Trust your tires! Today's tires are so great and are not likely to lose grip if you just trust them and be smooth. When I got my KZ900 in 1978, tires were horrible! The rubber was hard and lost grip very easily. Riding in the rain was dangerous at best. Today, on my SV1000S, I'll wheelie on wet roads before losing traction. Again, Thanks for the video. You are spot on with your advice! Keep up the good work and keep the rubber side down.
@tomlewis9783
@tomlewis9783 3 жыл бұрын
I *CORRECTLY* assume every car is unable to see, yet somehow still out to get me! Only time I do get noticed is in their mirror, when they glimpse a big white bike with a bunch of small lights and black trim. Looks like the Highway Patrol bikes Note! for California riders and visitors, CHP often wear a Green Hi-Viz jacket with white helmet, on a BMW! Looks like your average beemer/wing/touring bike, VERY SNEAKY!!
@edwardcampbell3420
@edwardcampbell3420 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to use the 2 small lights on the forks to give more visibility.
@streetglider2357
@streetglider2357 3 жыл бұрын
Look through the curve, always!
@justanotherviewer52
@justanotherviewer52 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin. Life saving tips when you put yourself in a bad position.
@MCrider
@MCrider 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@leftoverporkchop9972
@leftoverporkchop9972 3 ай бұрын
It's funny, i can be going confidently through a corner, but realize i'm not "looking further" or for the exit of the corner, and adjust my vision mid corner and it's like a light bulb going off in my head bringing absolute clarity to the situation. It makes it absolutely clear, how important it is to keep your head and eyes looking way ahead and how that helps to remove anxiety in the curves.
@jeremyrimmer9247
@jeremyrimmer9247 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Kevin. I put your technique to good use last week when I entered a left hand sweeper a little hot with a nasty off camber at the apex. Your words of advice “you can safely lean your bike over far more than you think” were on my mind as I pressed harder on that inside bar and felt my left foot peg touch down, drag and gently fold. My big old BMW K1600 GT maintained its poise, stability and composure through the entire corner. It was indeed far more capable than I could’ve imagined. We as riders today are truly fortunate to benefit from the amazing frame, braking and suspension technology at our disposal. As well we have the benefit of excellent youtube channels such as yours...thank you for your sage words and all the work you do to help keep our riding experiences enjoyable, fun and above all as safe as possible!
@rkba4923
@rkba4923 3 жыл бұрын
Lean more and look to the further end of the corner.
@edwardjohnson5331
@edwardjohnson5331 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again , especially about counterstearing in the corners. And yes ,SLOW DOWN ON YOUR ENTRY !
@i-vlog1994
@i-vlog1994 3 жыл бұрын
Having a strong grasp of counter steering is so important. I’m new to riding, but I practice it every day. I’ve been finding more and more challenging corners and hitting them more aggressively as my skill level rises. I’ve suprised myself a few times with how well I’ve taken some pretty challenging corners. It has allowed me to be able to focus more on potential dangers instead of focusing on just making the turn.
@NightWind1157
@NightWind1157 2 жыл бұрын
One thing he didn't mention (which is my mantra) "The Clutch is Your Friend!" If I find myself going into a turn too fast I pull in the clutch, then delay entry, look further, and lean harder. Pulling in the clutch allows the bike to slow while staying off the brake helping to eliminate sudden changes in traction. Once safely through the turn, with low rpms for the gear you're in, gently feather the clutch out. This is where changes in traction can happen so it's better to be geared high than low. At least now you should be upright.
@iallso1
@iallso1 3 жыл бұрын
Those comments match up to the instructions I was given, almost to the letter, on my cornering clinic at the track. And while the track is grippier than the road, and without trees or guard rails it is a great place to develop confidence in your bike and your riding ability.
@afterburner2869
@afterburner2869 3 жыл бұрын
I ran wide in a right hand corner a couple years ago near Downieville California. It scared the hell out of me and I’m so lucky that nobody was coming the opposite direction in that lane because I wouldn’t be here to tell you about it. I appreciate everything you do Kevin to make me a better rider.
@MatthewPettyST1300
@MatthewPettyST1300 3 жыл бұрын
I ran wide on my first bike, a 400four SuperSport and when my rear tire hit the center double striping it lost it grip and swerved me into the oncoming lane. I was so lucky there was not a car coming at that moment before I regained control and got back in my lane. I was 25 back then and am now 66. a lot of lessons learned since on the 6 bikes owned. No car till my wife passed away 2009.Still commute 300 a week on a beautiful windy mountain Highway here in Santa Cruz, CA. on my ST1300, rain or shine.
@principlemethods5281
@principlemethods5281 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah happened to me once too. Ride safe
@izzysykopth
@izzysykopth 3 жыл бұрын
@@MatthewPettyST1300 love the 400 Four Honda might bring it back in the form of a CBR RR...
@MatthewPettyST1300
@MatthewPettyST1300 3 жыл бұрын
@@izzysykopth I Cafe'd it out, K & N air filters, smaller sprocket gear coming out of the transmission for quicker starts. different rear shock (forget who's) and a few smaller things. I weigh 210 and that bike would do a big wheelie, front tire over your head kind. It took residential corners at 40. and in all the years, it never failed to start on the first kick no matter how cold. I did All the maintenance. A simple bike. I put 120,000 on it.
@izzysykopth
@izzysykopth 3 жыл бұрын
@@MatthewPettyST1300 love it! I ride a 2014 CBR600RR and I'm thinking seriously about a VFR400... or a new 400RR...
@steveknode4517
@steveknode4517 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin, One thing I learned from my brother, which someone else commented on below, is to lean in to the curve which helps the bike straighten up a little and give you more clearance before dragging metal. You can practice this on any decent curve. Lean in to the curve and feel the bike straighten up. That's why you see racers dragging a knee in the corners. The counter weight straightens up the bike. If you lean to the outside of a curve, which feels more natural, you're pushing the bike farther over increasing the chance of dragging metal. I know you know this but thought it was worth mentioning.
@Burt1038
@Burt1038 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't started riding motorcycles (yet) but even on a bicycle this is true; it's something I've figured out and it makes turning at 20+mph on a road bicycle a lot less daunting as you can feel the bike under you better.
@edwardcampbell3420
@edwardcampbell3420 3 жыл бұрын
When you say lean into the curve are you referring to sliding over on the seat so the bike doesn't lean as much?
@RalphMercuroMusic
@RalphMercuroMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Lean angle + Speed = Radius. If you need to tighten up a corner, increasing lean angle and or reducing speed is what needs to be done. You recommended a low side crash without ever mentioning a huge fundamental skill, Trailbraking! Trailbraking is an extremely viable option when running wide but MSF has everyone brainwashed that it's an advanced skill. It should be added to the BRC (Or whatever they call it now) and reinforced in the ARC. We'd have a lot less crashes if a stronger emphasis was put on proper braking in all situations...
@2bikemikesguitartopics145
@2bikemikesguitartopics145 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, I did a fast-1 track day here a number of years ago and it definitely improved my street riding ability from what I learned in that intensive day of classroom and on track training
@da11as22
@da11as22 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are helping a lot of people! Thanks for your work.
@scottwilson3853
@scottwilson3853 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin, thank you for all of your content. It is very helpful, especially for newer riders like me. I have filtered through many different channels and have settled on yours and a couple others. You are one of the best out there. Thank you for keeping us safe onnthe road!
@scottsellers9039
@scottsellers9039 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again, keep up your life saving work!
@onawku
@onawku 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin. Essential tips in straight, understandable words. Great video!
@winfielddixon5166
@winfielddixon5166 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, words of wisdom bro! I remember years ago going into a curve too hot, just kept pushing harder while looking through the curve. Made a hell of a racket as I dragged my exhaust through the corner but I made it!
@cathylancaster1004
@cathylancaster1004 2 жыл бұрын
wide corner story: Decided to practice trail breaking, like an idiot, I thought I could practice this on the street. I came into a left hand turn, was using trailbreaking, felt comfortable with my speed and thought it would be a good time to let go of the break, well I let go of the front break too early and the bike immediately speed up and I was heading into the apex of the corner a lot faster than I wanted and my instinct was to stand the bike straight up and break so I ended right off the road, luckily it was flat grassland, no guardrail or ditch and I was able to ride it out and get back on the rode. Lesson learned: take practice to a parking lot for trailbreaking and all techniques to build that muscle memory. Oh yeah, I did this with a brand new bike that I had for less than a week, I am very grateful to walk away without injury or damage to the bike. I was blessed to learn this lesson unharmed. Thank you God
@raybligh9896
@raybligh9896 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Kevin. Always great info. God bless!
@lylemacdonald6672
@lylemacdonald6672 3 жыл бұрын
I use the push/pull on the bars but you are the first person I have come across to mention it. But you failed to mention how during one of these 'OH S....' cornering moments your back side pucker power helps keep you stuck to the seat!
@Nasosdag
@Nasosdag 3 жыл бұрын
Right? It's when the "check sphincter" light goes on. XD XD
@dasautogt
@dasautogt 3 жыл бұрын
Man, you are just a never-ending it appears, font of knowledge Kevin ! Great advice, I know on the occasions I scare myself a corner is nearly always in the equation. Thank you.🙏
@georgehooper6955
@georgehooper6955 3 жыл бұрын
A simple trick that has helped me a ton: if the reason you are running wide is you just aren’t comfortable leaning the bike in corners and are sort of “frozen” (like I was when learning to ride my first street bike), if you consciously BEND YOUR ELBOW (the one on the inside of the turn) it’s amazing how much more fluid and comfortable turn turns will be. Then you can use the push-pull method to adjust your position in the curve.
@jimmymonztarella8562
@jimmymonztarella8562 2 жыл бұрын
I’m taking the MSF course in New York State in late September, y’all’s videos are getting me more confident by the day.
@michaelsteal9128
@michaelsteal9128 3 жыл бұрын
Been riding 30 years but always enjoy the review and relearning proper technique
@tonyhamilton7785
@tonyhamilton7785 3 жыл бұрын
You always have the great info for the common problems. Thanks for doing what you do 🤙🤙
@MCrider
@MCrider 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@JPwheelie
@JPwheelie 3 жыл бұрын
Great tips. Keep up the good work. Your videos will help keep new and old riders safer.
@durbanspeciale9580
@durbanspeciale9580 Жыл бұрын
Great professional advice. Going wide is one of my most dangerous manoeuvres I am working hard on to avoid when entering a corner. After not riding a motorcycle for over 35 years and now owning 2 motorcycles a sports cruiser and a sports bike. The first time I decided not to wear full protective gear I dropped my sports cruiser a heavy motorcycle, all top heavy. I came to a sudden stop on a hill entering a very busy road and because I had the full sun in my eyes I couldn't see if my front wheel was sticking out too far on the road and instantly graded the front brake hard. No injuries or damage to the bike but quite embarrassing.
@brendakay5498
@brendakay5498 2 жыл бұрын
I have to give you a big thank-you I started riding a few years ago and all your videos taught me everything I need to know and I still watch them to this day once again thank you and if anybody's out there you watch this you will learn a lot I did and God bless you
@iangorner
@iangorner 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin. Good advice as always.
@ghostpepperrides4805
@ghostpepperrides4805 3 жыл бұрын
Your never wrong. I always refresh or learn new things to better myself. Be safe. Thank you.
@jdhsingi
@jdhsingi 3 жыл бұрын
While counterintuitive, delaying entry into the corner to deal with excess speed is game changing. It makes perfectly good sense once you explained it and showed the diagram. I have been watching your channel for years and this is undoubtedly the most important thing that I have learned here. Thank you for sharing Kevin.
@cdr6798
@cdr6798 3 жыл бұрын
I take this opportunity to thank you for the teaching you offer through your videos. Even though I have more than 30 years of motorcycle experience, last week I entered a corner very fast and the first thing that came to mind was this video. Apply the technique that you teach and fortunately I was able to avoid a fall or serious accident. Thank you once again for your input. You do a great job.
@hellbilly6532
@hellbilly6532 3 жыл бұрын
Back in 2018 did the “high side” thing after a near head on collision with a car, can tell you’ns flying through the air & landing in the street hurts. Keep up the good work & God bless
@cloudmaker
@cloudmaker 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice and explanation Kevin, as always. Regards Sir, from the UK.
@davidklementis5913
@davidklementis5913 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've made the mistake of coming into a corner to hot more times then I care to admit and am getting better at not doing so with age and experience. The points you made at the end of the video are what saved my @$$. Realizing it's much better to low side then high side greatly reduced my fear of leaning and using push (pull) harder has done the job along with bike and tires doing much more then I thought they could. Looking further through the corner helps a lot too. All 100% great teaching.
@ronbaker2777
@ronbaker2777 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin I too discovered the Push/Pull method. Been riding for a few yrs now. Love your videos.
@alanaustin4260
@alanaustin4260 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding advice. You undoubtedly have saved someone's life with this video.
@stevelytton80
@stevelytton80 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin for the great information
@ronricardo7421
@ronricardo7421 3 жыл бұрын
As a new rider your videos are helping me a lot.
@professorholmes758
@professorholmes758 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kevin for the awesome video
@MrFurley69
@MrFurley69 3 жыл бұрын
If you come in too hot, remember to tell yourself, trust the bike, and lean harder, get off any target that isn't the exit of the curve. If you're brain is quick enough, you will make it.
@WishingIWasRetired
@WishingIWasRetired 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Kevin. Good stuff.
@sedohrj87
@sedohrj87 2 жыл бұрын
Been riding for about 4 months but counter steering and trail braking were a few of the first things I began watching and learning about on KZbin and it is key. I've practiced it frequently and can attest to how important it is to utilize in the heavy Twisties. 2x on the tail of the dragon and I've felt very confident in my skill. However I know I have many more years to go and much more to learn. Peace and stay safe all your riders.
@mistonhillsnepal7996
@mistonhillsnepal7996 3 жыл бұрын
I tried push & pull technique last week on a twisty mountain road and it was very effective. Really informative video!
@dickjohnson7845
@dickjohnson7845 2 жыл бұрын
Rarely do you hear of the push pull. Used that a long time ago on dirtbikes and ATCs long before I ever got a street bike, but I carried it into street riding.
@Sladep123
@Sladep123 7 ай бұрын
Excellent knowledge, advice and communications. Thanks!
@madmike8v72
@madmike8v72 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tips, thanks!
@blafalot
@blafalot 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin - never posted here before despite watching many of your videos. Absolutely fantastic comments, and about as concise and straighforward as you can make it. I'll wager you saved some newbie (and maybe some "experienced") rider's life with this one. I've drilled this into my son's head "what do you do if you mess up and enter a corner too fast? Lean more, then lean even more! How? Countersteer! Let's practice." We've also drilled on looking farther ahead, and I went with him to intermediate training where we drilled on this (and I drilled on it to as I was poor at doing it consistently). Your addition of delayed entry and explanation of the best choices when in a bad situation (lowside vs others), is excellent also. Thank you!
@unabober
@unabober 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin you have the enthusiasm of dry, unbuttered toast. However, your instruction is direct and phenomenal in direction of MC operation. Thank you for posting no nonsense information that undoubtedly saves life’s and cushions injury. You rock and have helped me mitigated and control the blind curvy hills of Pittsburgh. High five!
@johncopetti1253
@johncopetti1253 3 жыл бұрын
Always great advise Kev. Thank s mate. John
@JohnSmith-zv8km
@JohnSmith-zv8km 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice, thanks
@loucee569
@loucee569 3 жыл бұрын
Great tips Kevin
@postersm7141
@postersm7141 2 жыл бұрын
I love it, generally when I countersteer I “push” but I have been incorporating more of a “ push/pull” maneuver/Technique lately.
@dutch2433
@dutch2433 3 жыл бұрын
Moor good advice. Thank Kevin
@donaldremington3737
@donaldremington3737 2 жыл бұрын
Pulling as well as pushing was I think a carry over from my early dirt bike experience . NEVER have heard any instructor talk about it before. Great tips --
@HS99876
@HS99876 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you , good lesson , I am just going out for a ride,
@stanwerner7484
@stanwerner7484 2 жыл бұрын
Great job as usual --thank you!
@rusnsc7622
@rusnsc7622 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Kevin, thanks much... 👍🙏
@roychan9639
@roychan9639 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Agree with everything u said. I had my first motorcycle crash just 3 months after getting a bike. Two most important things I learn after that: Get used to using the front brake; and counter steering.
@renostubbs8504
@renostubbs8504 2 жыл бұрын
Scary reality Kevin,much thanks to you. GODS GUIDANCE
@scottastell9415
@scottastell9415 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, good advice on recovery technique.
@wadeblake3451
@wadeblake3451 3 жыл бұрын
Great reminders Kevin. When things start happening fast it is important to have a plan. Your suggestions provide that plan. Thanks Kevin.
@DobblemeD2
@DobblemeD2 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, MCRider, I just recently bought a bigger bike. I went from a 1200sporster to a heritage. It’s a little heavier and a little more awkward than I’m used to. I’m really trying to practice! I took a required class for my license and recently been watching a LOT of safety videos. Turns ( right especially) and corners are weaknesses. I practice and have been forced to slow down! Thank you for your videos, they are informative!!
@scottthornton9237
@scottthornton9237 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! When i took the MSF course, "push the grip to the side you want to turn" had me all kinda clunky in the turns. I figured out on day one, that pulling on the high or outside grip provided me a much smoother and controlled turn. I have been riding that way ever since. The idea to push the inside bar, never really set in for me. It really surprised me when you brought it up @7:15 Thank you for that! Dragging hard parts in a curve: Riding my Ultra the with my wife on the back. I got into a S turn that was quite a bit tighter than i had anticipated! Scrubbed each floorboard though that one! Telling myself: "That's the Max Lean Limit, Stay loose, Stay with it, ride it out." Those words rattling through my mind. All the while hearing my wife yelling: "SLOW DOWN!" and that sound of sparks under foot! It was a solid 30-45 second scrub on each side. OK! The remainder of the ride was much less "spirited." I think it was low speed, tight turns in the parking lot, that taught me when the hard parts are scrubbing, lean no more! Just ride through the turn. You will end up on the far outside but, that sure beats road-rash and new tins! I refuse to crash, to prevent a crash! Do whatever it takes to minimize the damage! To both skin and tin!
@dougbongle3192
@dougbongle3192 3 жыл бұрын
Went into a 90 curve to fast on a R6 that was new to me,scrubbed as much speed as I could before the I started to lean. Once leaned over i started too apply a little more front brake to scrub more speed and the bike started to stand straight up. Let off the brake and pressed on the handle bar and leaning harder thinking I was going to low side into trees just 10 feet of the road. To my surprise I made it through the corner. I was used to riding a cruiser with a single disc in the front that I could apply front brake without affecting my lean. Learned to love the braking ability of sport bikes! Different techniques for different types of bikes. Thanks Kevin for another great video!
@ceroth8716
@ceroth8716 8 ай бұрын
u roll off the throttle and look were u wana go instead of at were u will crash. helped me 2 times already. gl
@russellhughes4496
@russellhughes4496 11 ай бұрын
Awesome info thanks
@Trickhorn
@Trickhorn 3 жыл бұрын
That is a great video! Bravo.
@BikingAdventuresandRoutesNI
@BikingAdventuresandRoutesNI 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, good tips
@lawrencewiley3104
@lawrencewiley3104 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir I needed this info very much
@HOWNDOG66
@HOWNDOG66 3 жыл бұрын
another benefit of delayed corner is you can see more of the corner...another great video MC.
@FaithisKey792
@FaithisKey792 Жыл бұрын
Great advice. Thank you. I had the 3rd experience. Thank God all turned out ok. Shaken up but alive. After over 18 years of riding experience, mostly on sports bikes. I always heard people speaking of when it happens. My M109R cruiser was already touching the left peg on pavement when I approached the turn. I wonder if the 2” lowering kit was a factor. Speed was, I’ve learn a valuable lesson. God speaks in mysterious ways sometimes, if we’re willing to listen and learn from our mistakes.
@marcanthony2380
@marcanthony2380 2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel and I pay attention to what you are sharing with everybody it's very important. I did not start writing until 2007 I was 47 years old but there's one thing I have that most riders don't have is road experience. For about 10 years I work with CVS pharmacy that had a free roadside service that I was on the road constantly and learn a lot of things about traffic. You could say I was road smart before I started riding a motorcycle. I almost have like you would call a 6 since how people drive on the interstate and it paid off so many times. And one video you say never assume you're right away that is so true I have tried to avoid scenarios but always keep in the back of my mind what if and that is the biggest concern every time you're on the road. Yes I've had my share of close calls but that split second difference will kill you or you will survive. I have seen a lot of mistakes of riders on the highway. Thank you for your videos I watch them almost every day keep up the good work
@Backyardsniper73
@Backyardsniper73 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Thanks
@dhrpro1
@dhrpro1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch brother!
@jamescruz7460
@jamescruz7460 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kevin
@onecleanfinger
@onecleanfinger Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your channel ! I've been watching for a few years and today rewatching some videos to see if I may have missed something or what I could have done to prevent a recent injury. 3 days ago while riding my HD streetglide with a group of riders on moderate curves and hills my foot momentarily got pinned during a sliding lean resulting in a fibula fracture and severe sprain as far as I know at this point. I was following one rider traveling downhill towards a right hand curve that included a small hill. The asphalt was lumpy throughout the ride and at the top of that hill was a patch of tarry residue. I had been engine braking towards the corner and it tightened up faster than I expected so was entering it a little hot. The rider in front of me cleared it ok I did not touch the brakes but my rear tire slid as I was counter steering somewhat aggressively. When the bike slid somehow my right foot either slipped off the floorboard and went and under the bike or maybe I reflexively tried to put my foot down to stop the bike from tipping into a crash. The rear tire regained traction right after that happened as I was looking where I wanted to go and maintained the countersteering technique. My ankle was still extended out and was flopping and couldn't put it back on the floorboard due to pain etc but I was able to downshift, fr brake and stop safely a short distance away. Luckily I did not crash, was riding with a group that provided me with help and my wife sitting behind me was not injured. I'm still not sure which factor played the dominant role in the event . I consider myself lucky overall that it wasn't worse than it is but it looks like I'll be dealing with recovery of this ankle of the next few months now.
@zman2367
@zman2367 3 жыл бұрын
Understanding that all situations are different and decisions need to be made in split seconds. On a low side crash are your odds better to try and hang on to the bike and slide with it, or to let go? Thank you for all the work that goes into these videos, it's greatly appreciated.
@MCrider
@MCrider 3 жыл бұрын
I want the bike away from me if sliding.
@FSHSKainon
@FSHSKainon 3 жыл бұрын
was riding with the wife this weekend, new Elite 4s on my 88 GL1500, I let a corner sneak up on me, on a road I didn't know, having a about 10-15 hours on the tires now I had the confidence to leave the throttle hoping it wasn't too fast and I pushed harder and thankfully the bike did what it does and did as I politely asked, thank you for your teachings !!
@gregduncan1001
@gregduncan1001 2 жыл бұрын
great video thanks
@SMKreitzer1968
@SMKreitzer1968 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin!
@brendanbongiovanni6394
@brendanbongiovanni6394 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You 👍 you might just have saved my life 😀
@nbt3663
@nbt3663 3 жыл бұрын
You saved me Kevin.... This happened to me early in my ride-learning. For some reason, my son (my trainer for a lack of better description) jumped in front on one of our rides. I think he wanted to get thru the twisties faster than what I was l learning at. I realized I was way too fast. I just trusted everything. I looked for oncoming traffic very quickly, and then just watched the curve with a ton more focus. The sounds the bike made dragging was unnerving. I was on my '98 883. I haveva Stage II '08 lowrider now and I have earned one thing noone seems to mention... learn the road and find the fastest fun pace. I never jump on roads I dont know and just hit it. The speed limit is really designed to actually keep us from killing others and then hopefully not ourselves. But I do like twisties and I like to lean, but there is that fine line I try not to get too close to just to impress my friends. Its more impressive to actually live and be a friend, Lol!!
@alanIrl99
@alanIrl99 3 жыл бұрын
Lot of wisdom there :) Thamk you sir.
@paulasturi4199
@paulasturi4199 3 жыл бұрын
"Pressing harder" (counter-steering hard) and trail braking saved my butt one time when I took and declining curve way too fast. Trusted my training and I'm still here to talk about it.
@ChrisHardwickanimaladventures
@ChrisHardwickanimaladventures 3 жыл бұрын
You sir may have just saved my life. I'm a new rider and I decided to take your advice and practice slow turns in a parking lot. After about 20 minutes trying to work in the friction zone my back brakes completely stopped working. I pumped the brakes a couple times and they came back 100%, then after about 10 minutes they went out again, like zero percent rear brakes. I pumped them a couple times and they came back. I'm thinking that the rear brake fluid may not have been replaced in a long time so that's the first thing I'm going to change. But can you imagine what would have happened if I were on the highway and my back brakes went out? Going 10 MPH in the parking lot may have saved my life. I'm going to change the rear brake fluid and head back to the parking lot to see if that fixes the problem, if not I'll bring the bike in for repair. CRAZY! I found a flaw in Harley Davidson motorcycles where if you don't replace the fluid every 2 years your brakes can completely go out, I'm thinking that's what is happening. This is a new bike to me and I've only had it out about a half dozen times so far.
@alphastarcar
@alphastarcar 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tips for reducing the severity of a crash. A day at the track as you suggest teaches riders plenty! I also wouldn’t hesitate to do some trail braking as needed. Practice at the track not on the streets. When those panic encounters happen on the street, because practice has been done at the track at least a game plan will somewhat be second nature and could save a life. Thanks for helping riders be safer!
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