What to Do When Cops DEMAND Your ID

[@PatriotPhD]

Ohio is working on a proposed amendment to the state constitution that removes qualified immunity.

[@Nathan-mw8bv]

Ohio is doing a great service to its people

[@gdragonlord749]

I'm down

[@camc8923]

Great way to lose good officers. On your way to the CA LEO crisis

[@IGR8691]

Colorado, New Mexico, and New York City have already ended QI, and Connecticut severely limited it, but since QI had been established at the federal level by the Supreme Court, it only applies to state law claims, not federal constitution claims. The same would apply for Ohio.

[@matty11311]

Just means they will settle all suits look at Colorado Montana new Mexico and Nevada it has changed nothing they need to be prosecuted qi never covered them from criminal charges they just never get charged

[@TomLaFrank-nu8im]

Why does law-enforcement treat our bill of rights like an obstacle?!!!

[@AdamSmith-cf1tl]

Because Armed "government" "workers" are evil. Fortunately, they are also very stupid. (Google "Too Smart to be a Cop") Evil and stupid, what a mix.

[@paranaplant]

they are a gang and dont like laws

[@liquidmagma]

Because it makes their job more difficult. I thought that might be obvious.

[@BrentLast1]

It's an assault to their ego, not just cops. Anyone who has power or control and your rights take that away from them.

[@jeffmcgovern5674]

Because the People allow it!

[@captainblacktoe1328]

Reasonable Articulable Suspicion, which means they need a FACT of a crime, not just a hunch.

[@matthewm4020]

No they need that to arrest you. Not to talk to you.

[@bloodshotred6334]

​@matthewm4020 hello idiot. We're talking about demanding someone identify themselves. Obviously anyone can talk to anyone. Are you special? 😂

[@thomasspringer5187]

Reasonable suspicion doesn't exist in law. It a legal term created much like the titles people unwittingly accept to their detriment.

[@jinjerfanatic1372]

​@@matthewm4020 WRONG...

[@krislewis63]

​@@matthewm4020 Incorrect. They need RAS to detain. They need PC (probable cause) to arrest.

[@arcamean785]

Feels like there's more loopholes than safeguards...

[@Zoie3x8]

no safeguards, only loopholes.

[@TimeSurfer206]

There are. But only for Piggly Wiggly.

[@krane15]

Ah, you figured it out. The Supreme Court is more concerned with making loopholes than they are with maintaining the integrity of the Bill of Rights. The ability to own arms is designed to keep government in check. That's why they keep making laws to prevent it. Once the people are disarmed, only government has weapons and they can do whatever they want. Including ignore the Bill of Rights since no one can stop them. That's not a theory since cops are doing that right now. Violating our civil rights, then pulling guns on innocent people and claiming they're criminals for standing up for their rights.

[@mattm.5436]

That’s because they’ve gutted it like a blunt and left only the husk.

[@coachp1389]

The people shouldn't have to sct like legal robots in order to function in a free society. The burden should be heavy on the government as the constitution requires according to Supreme Court Justice William o'Dougles

[@IGR8691]

It's so horribly ironic that the courts assume that all citizens know every law and hold them accountable for them all ("ignorance of the law is no defense") but turn around and allow the actual officers of the law to use their ignorance of those same laws as a defense of their unlawful actions.

[@mmx4gaming12]

No such thing as free society. It's so ironic Americans haven't figured this out yet

[@krane15]

The burden of proof of guilt is completely on the government. Too bad more people don't realize this and remain silent. If the police knew you were guilty of a crime, they wouldn't be asking for I.D. Don't ever help them find ways to hold you. Even if there's a glitch in the system they can use that to further detain you.

[@asueft]

100percent correct, proof that "justice" system is corrupt.

[@YoutubeApestaACACA]

Go to another country like southamerica. You will see how safe you are

[@BohemothWatts-vz1lc]

Does this sounds familiar: "PAPERS PLEASE!?"

[@robkitchen]

I came here to make this comment

[@MrGerdbrecht]

I need a papyrus.

[@MrGerdbrecht]

@@papajon62 Es gibt eine Ausweispflicht, d.h. man muss die Wahrheit sagen in Bezug auf seine Daten. Es gibt keine Mitführungspflicht. Daher ist "Ihre Papiere bitte" total dumm.

[@joseph1150]

@@MrGerdbrecht The problem is the imbalance between cops, whom are allowed to lie about the law to your face, sometimes legally, and the private citizens who have done nothing illegal and aren't being suspected of a crime having their 4th amendment rights violated.

[@jaymorin7131]

TRUMP'S AMERICA!

[@danielprivate7442]

A cop can ASK anyone for their ID at any time. Asking is a request and the nature of a request is that it may be refused. If you don't refuse, then you voluntarily complied with their request. Demanding ID under threat of arrest is what they need RAS for. If they attempt to demand ID under threat of arrest when they do not have RAS, this is called "coercion through force" and it is a violation of one's 4th Amendment Rights. Moreover, because it is reasonable to expect police to know this, by demanding ID under threat of arrest without RAS, they open themselves up to have their qualified immunity forfeited for this Civil Rights violation.

[@TexasPapa13]

They can ask and we can refuse

[@samrittenhouse2534]

Actually that seems like an appropriate response, get the phone out start recording right away and ask them "are you asking for or demanding my ID?"

[@SkidVicious1971]

Film every interaction Never answer questions Call a lawyer

[@SkidVicious1971]

@kzrzrzrrkzi no thanks bootlicker.

[@krane15]

That all great advice if you're wealthy. Working -class people don't have those options. People have to go to court to fight false charges, but their boss won't let them off for that. Fighting injustice cost more money than the fine. So poor people admit guilt and pay it. Even though they're 100% innocent. The cost and time needed for proving it in court is just too expensive. The cops know this, and target/profile the poor. That's the reality of our system.

[@SkidVicious1971]

@krane15 so...the poor are unable to keep their mouths shut? They all have smartphones and they all have the ability to research and learn the law. And if they present evidence to a lawyer, any lawyer, there's not a chance in hell that they wouldn't take the case. Stop making excuses for them

[@brobot_8371]

filming a speeding stop is something you can do, sure. but it would make the interaction really awkward

[@burkena]

Please amend your video..show a Scroll of those 25 states SO WE ARE AWARE - WHERE WE STAND

[@matthewm4020]

Ooooor you could use the power of the internet and look it up?

[@TexasPapa13]

No state in America requires you to ID simply because a cop demands it. Not even in so called stop and ID states.

[@Julie-p5y]

Right. And they always say that even on cops on TV and I believe they require government issued ID to enter government buildings and court houses etc At least they've had it posted there

[@jeffw6692]

Or you could just, oh I don’t know, look it up for yourself like most people that want to know about the laws in their own state.

[@TexasPapa13]

@@Julie-p5y you don’t have to ID to enter a government building.

[@tinfoilsombrero1439]

Reasonable suspicion OF A CRIME.

[@asueft]

EXACTLY, funny how a LAWYER left that part out.

[@RM-lk1so]

You match the identity...

[@isaacdebord7812]

Do you also think traffic laws aren't crimes? Because if you are a "sovereign citizen" you probably need to research who gets the rights of US citizens and who doesn't before arguing that you are not a citizen

[@gngnome]

I reasonably suspect you... might look really good wearing red. * Jazz Hands *

[@tinfoilsombrero1439]

@@isaacdebord7812 They aren’t crimes. No victim, no crime. A law isn’t moral because politicians agreed to sign some papers. You’re telling me, the people who ran the Underground Railroad were sovereign citizens because they acted morally which was starkly opposed to written law?? Think before you write.

[@fsebek678]

Maybe we as taxpayers should vote out these laws

[@WorldFamousDJFish]

LOL, the taxpayers just elected their best buddy as President. It's only gonna get worse.

[@jukesfood5601]

sadly voting makes no difference. The masses will just do what they're told to by the media/government.

[@CD-vb9fi]

What? Are you saying people should not blindly vote for the UniParty pretending to be "different"?

[@DanielHuet-Vaughn]

vote your way out of tyranny? first time for everything... almost like the socialist who think communism will work if they try it one more time. get used to your chains boys

[@terryjwood]

@@CD-vb9fi Vote for PEOPLE who say they will end qualified immunity and civil asset forfeiture -- if you can find any.

[@Anonymousguy77-d8s]

That never works. Even if the cop knows he has no RAS he's gonna force you to stand there until you respect his or her perceived authority. The fact of the matter is they have NO authority over anyone without a crime.

[@LuciferSatan-xs3cr]

Never underestimate the ability of a cop to invent a crime and charge you.

[@Matt-Ledford]

The problem is that police don't care if they have R.A.S or not. No one is going to hold them liable for unlawful detention nor would any lawyer take a case of simple unlawful detention, just too little money to be made.

[@selfdo]

ROGER THAT. "R.A.S" can simply mean the cop doesn't LIKE you and wants a reason to screw with you. After all, WHO will punish him/her if (s)he's WRONG?

[@thomasspringer5187]

Then do it yourself and take their bonds and pensions.

[@thomasspringer5187]

It's called the common lore. The highest court on American soil is a common lore court of record. Evoke the common law by way of notice.

[@stevek8829]

@@thomasspringer5187Common "lore?" Too funny! 😅

[@terryjwood]

In America you have all the rights you can afford.

[@toddstanley3619]

Reasonable articulate suspicion. SCOTUS stated it's a violation of rights to require identification where no crime was committed nor suspected. This is why SCOTUS extended it to reasonable articulate suspicion.

[@TexasPapa13]

RAS …. Of a crime. That last part is important

[@Voren_Kurn]

Provide case name plz

[@mrhope2914]

​@@Voren_Kurn Terry V Ohio

[@Voren_Kurn]

@@mrhope2914 you may want to re read the case. That case mostly pertain Ed the constitutionally of stop & frisk & detaining a person for questioning. Not about IDs.

[@frizzen]

That officer is very pretty, but her voice is a deal killer.

[@grigorirasputin5020]

Too much ink, as noted by the cover sleeve on her arm.

[@hnaa5674]

Lmao

[@krane15]

If you like the young boy look.

[@codygores4036]

😂😂😂

[@TC38Cole]

I really like answering them with amendments. "Let me see some ID." 4th amendment. "What are you doing, where are you going/coming from?" 5th & 6th amendments. Not only do I have the right to remain silent, I have the ability. Answering all questions with "I have the right to remain silent." Or "I have the right to speak to an attorney before questioning." While simultaneously and repeatedly asking, "Am I being detained, or am I free to go?"

[@russellmitchell7376]

If they are asking you don't have to complly. They are fishing.

[@krane15]

Bingo. They're asking you to help them search for criminality so they can arrest you. The Nazi made its citizen carry paper to stop them randomly and search for reasons to take them away. They could makeup stuff like our vague laws allow cops to do so today. Make no mistake, it is Nazism for all intents and purposes.

[@samuelcabrera5758]

Great advice 👍 👌 ...., Thank You 😊 🙏

[@arthurhouston3]

You always have your 4th amendment rights and if cops violate them you can sue the cops in federal court.

[@ProleDaddy]

And generally win nothing, so... Lawyers aren't typically interested.

[@mrnobody8540]

Don't need an attorney - File a for ( record release under freedom of information )... File a chapter 83 notice of intent to sue... Then a motion of discovery tru the court by a judge. Build your case an attorney will then smell blood

[@matthewm4020]

​@@mrnobody8540so waste a bunch of time and money on something you won't win? Sure bud. You go do that

[@WorldFamousDJFish]

Haha, as if there's gonna be a 4th Amendment in a couple years...

[@josephjennings9687]

Go look up qualified immunity.

[@Edward-nn6gt]

I am a retired police offiecer in pa, and i had to correct so many younger officers over this they would stop someone ask for id and then want to take them back to the station to check digital fingerprints! I would ask them why and the only answer they had was he has no id. For some reason they are being mis trained on and think having no id is illegal, its a shame they are good officers getting bad training

[@jamesalexander3530]

That was my original question.

[@ryanm7832]

Good officers getting bad training, or complacent officers being complacent? If someone is becoming a police officer, they should take it upon themselves to brush up on the law and correct their peers, not just rely on the very basic information from the academy for the rest of their career. No excuse.

[@skyman06]

My brother just graduated from a LEO academy and we were having a discussion about this. He believed that if he had reasonable suspicion of a crime to detain someone that he also had the ability to take them to the station for fingerprinting if they didnt have id or refused to identify themselves. I had to correct him and remind him that reasonable suspicion and probable cause for an arrest are different things and that according to the supreme court reasonable suspicion is not enough to force someone to give fingerprints. You must have one of these three things: 1) Probable cause for an arrest, 2) a warrant, or 3) consent. And also that transporting someone to the police station is a de facto arrest, even if you try to just call it a "detention".

[@nunyabiznez6381]

It's not always training. Our police department has a policy of arresting all who refuse to produce a government issued photo ID upon demand. They will lock you up if you do not. They will fingerprint you to find out if you are in the system. If you are not then now you are because they will input your fingerprints to the FBI data base and the FBI saves everything. So if it comes back clean they will consider that as evidence of your high level of skill in avoiding arrest for your crimes. They will NEVER assume you are innocent of anything. Once they do this they will watch your every move. This is usually done through the network of thousands of traffic cameras throughout the state. Every last intersection in our county and many other counties have multiple traffic cameras and at least one for every 500 feet of road without an intersection and this is not just big intersections. if it has a stop sign or lights it counts as an intersection and so every stop sign has a camera as well. It is the stated goal of the county commissioners to have camera on every utility pole in the county by 2030. They then use their AI programs to track your every move in your life. You cannot leave your house without having hours of video made of you and they never erase it. They have billions of petabytes of video already and the state's law enforcement servers spread throughout the state have been getting upgraded to double capacity every year for the last twenty years and for the foreseeable future. It is literally a million times the capacity it had in 2004. They don't need to see your ID to know who you are. The ask to see your ID to trap you. If you refuse they will arrest and search you to see if they can charge you with a crime. If you show it they usually just hand it back without actually looking at it. The AI tells them who you are when they ask it who the driver is in the car in front of them. The AI tells them and then informs the officer if there are any warrants. But starting in a couple of years the cruisers will have smart windshields that will double as computer monitors and as the officer is driving the AI will notify the officer of the whereabouts of anyone with a warrant if they are one of the five closest cruisers. The information will pop up on their windshield in a 3 D overlay and will outline the wanted person with a flashing red glow if it's a felon, flashing orange if it's a misdemeanor and flashing yellow if the person has over a certain threshold of traffic violations. Within five years the 4th and 5th amendments will have no further meaning.

[@Akin42]

Good people don't take civilians that aren't suspected of wrong doing and take away their freedom to forcibly steal their biometric data. You're describing evil, regardless if it's their individual discretion to be evil or they're trained to be evil by an evil system.

[@johnrgulley5852]

It's past time we end qualified immunity

[@WorldFamousDJFish]

Never gonna happen with the incoming administration. They're gonna let cops run wild.

[@Saxxin1]

If you only knew how dumb that is.

[@judasaservantofjesus3145]

ASAP

[@klavczarkalafan4191]

Is it possible to end it in a particular city with a ballot initiative?

[@teepee2531]

It’s disturbing how you people have no clue why qualified immunity exists and why it’s necessary for policing.

[@MohamedSenior-q1u]

Long island audit is the goat 😂🐐🎉

[@vitogriffin8902]

Here's what you do... don't provide them with anything and don't answer any questions. They'll either arrest you or leave you alone. If they arrest you, they'll have to show that they did indeed have reasonable suspicion to detain you in the first place. If they do that, then you catch a minor misdemeanor charge that's no big deal. If they can't show that they had reasonable suspicion then the charge gets tossed and you have a lawsuit. Since the entire system is crooked, the only way to break their unlawful behavior is to hit their bosses in the pocketbook.

[@chickenmonger123]

Naw. Asking if you are being detained or free to go, is without a doubt better. If you record it. If they detain you without RAS, and you can show it, it amounts to the same thing without a misdemeanor, and grounds for Civil Suit. Because Violation of Civil Rights is by definition Harm, you are likely to be able to take it from them, provided you know your stuff beforehand. Police rely on the ego boost. Loss in the Courtroom matters.

[@vitogriffin8902]

@chickenmonger123 that's one way to go, but whether or not it's better is arguable. They can tell you you're being detained whether they have reasonable suspicion or not, and they don't have to articulate their suspicion to you at the time. Assuming you'll be able to have the entire interaction recorded, or even enough to establish the context of the situation is pretty lofty; most people don't record every interaction and if you aren't recording when you're confronted by police then oftentimes they won't allow you to start recording by telling you not to reach for anything for their safety. And while an unlawful detainment is technically enough for action, there's not a very good chance you'll find an attorney to take that case and the damages would be considered so minimal that the odds of anything coming from it are slim. The longer you give them to make up a lie, or the more you do in terms of talking or recording or questioning them, the more likely they'll be to twist the situation and use your own actions to their benefit. It's all situationally dependent and up to the individual, but if you're not willing to play the game then you might as well just stay off the field and provide them with your ID from the beginning.

[@johnrhodes101875]

@@vitogriffin8902 so just give the dumb cop your ID and there go's your 4th its all but gone anyway

[@EJ-zx5cz]

Totally stupid advise kid

[@selfdo]

If the officers ARRESTS you, then (s)he must have PROBABLE CAUSE, not merely "reasonable suspicion". Then again, people get wrongfully arrested ALL the time, and RARELY does it end up with a successful lawsuit against that officer and/or his/her department.

[@j.christie2594]

Thanks for all your explainations amd insight.

[@jamessaville5766]

Critical thinking and situational awareness with respect go a long way.

[@TexasPapa13]

@@jamessaville5766 those are things 99% of cops don’t have

[@marsonofjo344]

if you are stopped for "suspicion", beware. it is an illegal stop and the cop is 30 IQ. can't even memorize, much more understand? "reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime about to be committed, being committed, has been committed"

[@krane15]

Except the cops don't need to be respectful, reasonable, or rational.

[@TexasPapa13]

@ that’s literally part of their training and in a lot of departments, it’s their mandate.

[@TexasPapa13]

@ read up on department code of ethics and conduct.

[@joshconnell7781]

Even if they mess up so bad they get fired, they can just be rehired the next county over, worse case next state over. Any lawsuit winnings come from taxpayer dollars, not bad cops.

[@DanaJones-mx6wi]

I thought WWII vets fought against required identity papers. .

[@terryjwood]

I'm sure 1930's German is laughing at us to see what we've become.

[@nunyabiznez6381]

That's on paper. Reality is different.

[@jacktaylor8107]

They did not. Idk what unhinged history you’re reading but they fought over the eradication of an entire population of people. Not presenting an ID so they know who they are talking to while MORE THAN LIKELY said person has committed an offense.

[@bernadette63ceo93]

I don’t minds at all if the police officers asked me for my ID !! I don’t care wish states ! 🙏💙🇺🇸🇺🇸💙💙 O support our law enforcement officers 💯

[@looneyburgmusic]

Whenever a cop says, "I need to see your ID," if I'm not driving my answer is always the same - "No officer, you WANT to see my ID. But you won't be seeing it today."

[@isaacdebord7812]

It depends on the reason for the stop if the cops are stopping you because your in a vehicle that matches the description of say weapons trafficers you would have to but if it's speeding yeah you can refuse

[@looneyburgmusic]

@@isaacdebord7812 No that's not good enough to demand ID from passengers, the cops need more

[@isaacdebord7812]

@looneyburgmusic technically they don't because at that point it is within reason that you are an accomplice if you are driving with a dead body in your vehicle and have a passenger it can be assumed that they are an accomplice to the crime

[@looneyburgmusic]

@@isaacdebord7812 How did we go from a claim of weapons to a claim of a dead body? That escalated quickly

[@isaacdebord7812]

@looneyburgmusic not really gun runners kill anyone who rats on them and it was an example of when it is perfectly legal to demand ID from a passenger

[@dasimcoes]

I.D yes. But unlike some videos out there, they can ask for a license if you’re driving a vehicle.

[@Milkeywhey]

No ID required in the USA!!! The police academy needs to read Kolender v Lawson and teach the law in the academies. Ask the police officer to show you their driver's license for citizen safety.

[@SirberusKhaos]

requiring the police to know relevant laws? What is this madness, this is the USA not some liberal Eu place, I can alrady hear the whining. maybe a lot of things would be better if we reequired at least baic law course to become a LEO?

[@stephenludlum9746]

They teach it; the problem is that many officers don't care about the laws because they know they can get away with it.

[@WeThePeople-ns4sh]

​@stephenludlum9746 they teach and tell you after to forget everything they taught you.

[@nunyabiznez6381]

It's not the police academy. It's the police departments. In our county all cities have a police of ordering detained individuals to produce a state issued photo ID and failure to do so WILL result in an arrest and getting finger printed. If you have a warrant they keep you. If you don't and they can invent something to charge you with they let you go. But your information and fingerprints go to the FBI data base regardless. Starting in 2026 they will be taking DNA from EVERY person they stop regardless and you won't have the right to say no. They expect to have almost instant DNA identification available by 2027 but meanwhile, while they are waiting for the technology to be available they will be keeping detained people detained until the results of DNA tests come back and that takes about a week which is why our county is working to pass a bond issue so they can increase the jail capacity to six times it's current size for people waiting for DNA identification results. Since AI run software and cameras will be on every utility pole within a couple of years they are expecting a dramatic increase in the number of people arrested for trivial offenses recorded by security cameras. So this includes the two utility poles that the utility companies installed in my yard with easements granted by the previous homeowner and with those cameras they will be able to monitor everything that happens in your back yard. No more skinny dipping in the back yard hot tub behind your ten foot wall. They are already listening to conversations in your home by laser soundwave scanning equipment. it's too expensive to run on every suspect now but the price is expected to come down in a couple of years at which point everything you say in your home will be recorded and analyzed by AI bots and warrants automatically issued to police who are driving past your house. This is why our state legislature passed the rapid response virtual justice act to go into effect in 2026 so the monitors on the utility pole in front of your house can report bad language or bad behavior to the nearest cruiser and have a warrant appear on his cell phone issued by the digital judge as he approaches your home to break down your door and arrest you for role playing with your wife in your bedroom because you said a banned word or phrase to her.

[@Nunyubeez]

It’s funny to think that asking that question will always elicit an honest answer.

[@Shuffle-Major-Arcana]

They don’t have reasonable suspicion. They never do. Reasonable suspicion was invented as a way to violate people’s rights.

[@gta4everrr]

It is an incredibly low bar. They've got plenty of time to make some shit up and tell it to judge by the time the case makes it to court, if it ever does.

[@adamnewman-4245]

I could have reasonable suspicion that the officer is committing a crime.

[@JamieDavis-ny8mh]

Couldn’t have said it better myself !!

[@finscreenname]

What is "reasonable suspicion"? You were there, you existed in a time period?

[@concernedcitizen9208]

It’s not reasonable suspicion it’s reasonable articulable suspicion which is a much higher standard

[@kentalexander5130]

Why not just show an ID? It's quick and easy and gets you out of there faster. Unless you are doing something illegal.

[@Beemrdon]

True that.

[@crazysquirrel9425]

Depends. The more people comply the more cops will abuse the people. Why surrender a right when you don't have to? They cannot detain you for a period longer than it takes to write you a ticket or arrest you.

[@MrTlong2010]

Because people want to complain and pretend they're living in a fascist dystopia.

[@JimmyJack-hc2jo]

Police do not answer the question "am I being detained?" By remaining silent they can change you with resisting if you try to leave. There is no law requiring an officer to identify themselves or give their badge number. In civil rights violations by the Maricopa county sheriff's department the sheriff said they could not press charges against deputies as the victims failed to provide names or badge numbers of the deputies. It is all about maintaining the pyramid shaped power hierarchy where the officer gets to play God with the lives of the citizen.

[@jimanderson3644]

Maricopa county is synonymous with corruption.

[@crazysquirrel9425]

Not resisting arrest if they do not say you are under arrest.

[@stantonroyce9377]

ANSWER: YOU TOUCH YOUR ATTORNEY SHIELD APP ON YOUR PHONE AND LET YOUR ATTORNEY TALK WITH AND RECORD ON THEIR SERVERS, THE ENCOUNTER

[@jamespainter3184]

When trump gets in office he's going to give all law enforcement federal immunity / amnesty from prosecution and that should not happen

[@jamespainter3184]

@s.hooper5667 just Google it it comes right up all kinds of articles on it he made that promise in his campaign

[@jamespainter3184]

@s.hooper5667 and true about the constitution that protects the citizens but it does nothing to prosecute a wrong doing officer

[@bloodyhatter2692]

Federal immunity works just like diplomatic immunity. It boils down to duh nuh nuh nuh Can't touch this!

[@Rain-ox3dp]

Know your rights

[@finaoo1167]

That first one can have my ID...

[@FredTheLutinoCocatiel]

I showed the officer my fishing licence.. He said do you have anything with your photo on it. I showed him a picture of me holding a fish.😂

[@Hawaiibohntr]

What about they say "You are suspicious" doing what ever he thinks you doing is wrong. Suspicion in not a crime, neither a felony or Misdemeanor.

[@krislewis63]

@@Hawaiibohntr "suspicious" is also subjective. They cannot (lawfully) act on a hunch.

[@mrhope2914]

If you're detained on suspicion it's usuallt suspicion that you are, have, or about to commit a crime. Suspicious male peering into vehicles would be an indicator you're about to break into those cars. (Especially if they have had reports recently in the area for the same crime.) See Terry V Ohio

[@krislewis63]

@mrhope2914 so every cop using Plain View Doctrine is a criminal. Got it. Oh, and just video. A Constitutionally-protected activity can NOT be deemed illegal OR even suspicious.

[@rb8819]

​@mrhope2914, how wrong are you. Looking into cars is not suspicion. It is called the plain view doctrine. Better to better research than prove you are an id10t.

[@kurtfrederiksen5538]

As others have said record your interactions. I am curious would the best way to handle these interactions be to do the following: 1) Film the interaction 2) Ask if you are free to go or being detained 3) Ask for the reason they are wanting your ID, and what crime you are being detained for (Establishing a record of what they think is reasonable suspicion) so you have a record for your lawyer later. 4) You hold your ID in your hand, and tell them that you do not consent to them taking it and cannot give it to them, however, you will not provide any resistance other than a verbal repeating that I do not consent to you taking it, if they decide take it from your hand. Doing this I feel records the polices reason for taking your ID and makes it clear that you are not doing so voluntarily which should give your lawyer ammunition if it was illegal.

[@Jbox-e1q]

1941 German Gestapo: Give me your papers." 2024 American Law Enforcement Officer: "Give me your I.D."

[@Octopussyist]

Usually it wouldn't even be Gestapo, but normal Wehrmacht soldiers, and from what my mother told me, they were usually more polite than many of the US cops.

[@j22563]

To compare that is absolutely disgusting. Wow. Maybe read some history books

[@Blazzes1001]

You are wrong, in Illinois you need to carry an ID if you dare OWN firearms

[@CaffeAddict]

What if I don't have my ID on me at the time? No law requires that I carry an ID unless when I drive.

[@chickenmonger123]

Usually it says you can provide Legal Name, DoB, and Address. Though you aren’t required to have an Address by Law, so one wonders how that’d go.

[@mikehigbee2320]

They will ask if you have a license or ID issued by the state, even if it's not on you. They will need your full name and date of birth to confirm.

[@tanucci733]

​@@mikehigbee2320 They can ASK..

[@stevek8829]

@@chickenmonger123if you get charged bail is likely easier with a local address.

[@utz3710]

I had a Waupaca County wi deputy shoot at me during the deer hunting season because I was too close to the property line. He approached me two years earlier and threatened me telling me I should hunt farther into the woods. Slugs were whizzing by my head and ricocheting off the ground right next to me. I'm sure it was him.

[@vaughanellis7866]

A tip for police officers in the US, if you stop someone demand their ID and they happen to be a BRIT and they respond with "I beg your Pardon" seriously reconsider your course of action because that BRIT will bugger up your whole day if they have even the slightest suspicion that you are on a fishing expedition.

[@Octopussyist]

Now the big question is if they even know what "bugger up" means.

[@williammarrero4184]

If you are innocent, and didn't brake any laws,, just be respectful and follow the instructions of law enforcement. 🌎❤️

[@jcsoundguy]

In Texas, there is penal code 38.02 which basically says that until they LEGALLY arrest you, you do not have to show ID. NEVER give your ID. Force them to assault you. Take them to court. They can MAKE UP laws.

[@robertsmith2956]

Since cops can lie to us. Even telling me I am under arrest will not qualify I am lawfully arrested. They want my ID they need to have a judge issue a warrant for it.

[@Bdamazyn]

Yet just across the state line, NM is a stop and ID state which also has sanctuary cities 🤷🏻

[@ErikJ1218]

38.02 clearly states that you have to provide ID to a LEO if you are operating a motor vehicle or are carrying a gun, even if they don't arrest you.

[@TimeSurfer206]

@@ErikJ1218 "38.02 clearly states that you have to provide ID to a LEO if you are operating a motor vehicle..." They still need reasonable cause to stop you in the first place.

[@Shawn-yp9ic]

@@Bdamazyn Thats why I put several state lines between me and Texas long ago. Texas has sentencing ranges that are insane! Most felonies have a range of between 5 and 99 to life!This means that a prosecutor can make plea deals for 5 years or lower the change and offer you say 2 years but threaten that if you do not accept 2 years if he wins at trial he will give you 99 years in prison! That is too much power to give to every assistant DA in the state. In California a similar felony will carry a range of between16 months to 5 years. It's like they've lost their f+*&ing minds in Texas! No thanks! That's not the America I love.

[@patricksanders858]

When a cop says " we got a call..." Ask them for the call log number and inform him that a FOIA request will be filed seeking the recording of the " suspicious activity" call.

[@davidreed6070]

They just lie,they have a lifetime of practice at it,they are good at it.

[@dakotah4866]

This is a secondary law and conflict to the Constitution's right to privacy. The right to be safe and secure within your property papers and essentials then it would be null and void.

[@mikemissildine370]

Texas does have a state law about carrying ID/ driver's license. It is a misdemeanor ($100 fine 1st offense) not to have one, doesn't mean not in possession of one- left it at home, etc. As long as you know your ID/ DL number, usually you'll be ok. Texas wants to have a number to reference you in their data base.

[@tanucci733]

I haven't read the law but, IMO, you do not need a driver license to walk in public so that i.d requirement cannot be put upon people not operating a motor vehicle.

[@mikemissildine370]

@tanucci733 the law in a nutshell says if you do not have a DL, then you must have a state issued ID of some sorts after age 18. A school is badge will work if you're under 18. A TDCJ ID card is valid (for a certain time) until you get a DL/ ID from the state. Even if you never applied for either, you can still be in trouble.

[@tanucci733]

@@mikemissildine370 That is UnConstitutional and should be challenged.

[@ThomasKent1346]

@@mikemissildine370 What is this? East Germany? Russia? "Papers, Please!"

[@mikemissildine370]

@ThomasKent1346 pretty much since jfk was offed, just tightening the noose a little at a time...

[@dancindavey1515]

This happened to me several times. I showed him my I.d. Then he told me why. He said thanks, I said thanks…. For dealing with a- holes that might attempt to take his life, or mine, or my kids). Tough job. Not everyone has the guts to do that.

[@chungusthefungusamongus]

As a law abiding U.S. citizen I have no problem producing an I.D. at anytime. Hell I've got four to choose from.

[@GlimisGagetry]

You’re law abiding until they say you aren’t

[@JA-gu5gp]

Under threat of arrest …. Under stress , duress, and coercion

[@crazysquirrel9425]

It is distress not just stress.

[@amunderdog]

It is not required to carry identification, BUT, If they ask for identification, you must produce identification. Perfect.

[@krane15]

No, you do not.

[@K4AX]

In NC if you're operating a vehicle you have to provide a license if asked. However if you're outside of a vehicle and you're asked for your ID for no articulable reason/crime then you don't have to give it.

[@avenue8822]

Let me correct this so called Lawyer. If youre driving a car on a public roadway, you are required to carry an ID.

[@vincentfrusci7745]

Ok but he’s not talking about a traffic stop. He’s talking about if you’re on foot.

[@ArturoM209]

The fact the public has to be trained on how to interact with police and not the other way around, is crazy to me. I have to do his job and he's the one that gets paid!

[@mumenrider862]

Provide ID.. except when voting.

[@galacticgufus]

They ask for ID when voting in many states

[@hawleygriffin1800]

We've all seen the drill: "Officer am I free to go?" "No you're detained." "What's your reasonable suspicion I've committed a crime?" "Taser! Taser! Taser!" Snap !!!

[@billbuta6519]

Great video by this lawyer….. to summarize check your states laws. Thanks for the tip.

[@hamptonlawfirm]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Mountainquail912]

Reasonable articulable suspicion! They can’t just say they “have it”, they have to produce it… with words. Rationally and coherently, explain in detail what crime they suspect you of. Remember that they are professional liars, so video them during interactions.

[@brucefulton]

In Arizona, reasonable suspicion is not required in the case of a traffic stop. In Arizona, if you are the driver of a vehicle stopped by law enforcement, you are legally required to provide your name, driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance. According to ARS §28-1595, drivers must comply with this identification requirement during a traffic stop. Failure to do so can result in a class 2 misdemeanor, which can carry penalties such as fines and possible jail time.

[@pngmedianews1942]

Good info 👍🏿💯

[@ronl.2913]

Claiming and actually having is two different things.

[@memories1004]

Simply "comply". Be nice and they'll be cool with you.

[@ryan-x3r]

great video cause they don't have to tell you what the reasonable suspicion is.

[@WATCH-IT-BUSTER]

The cops are just going to lie about everything 😮😮😮😮

[@brookelord3448]

Ask for the reason too. If they don't give you a reason or it's a dumb reason you can get the whole case dismissed in court. I did it in Illinois.

[@AnthonyHalliday-dq6qo]

The 'Right to remain silent' is Sacrasant. Continue your activities until arrested.

[@freddydelatorre1485]

Let me see your papers!!🤦🇺🇸

[@vivektiwary-m5s]

Why mark , why did you leave me with this cliff hanger.... (Vegeta's voice): ANSWER ME!!!!!!!

[@josephhamilton3242]

In new jersey it is an automatic fine via traffic ticket if you are not carrying a drivers license at the time of a traffic stop.

[@dexter8705]

They need to articulate it!

[@kevinjohnston1984]

In my state you are required to carry you drivers license when operating a motor vehicle. If you do not you are guilty of a misdemeanor and will be ticketed.

[@nerdyandstuff]

Pass laws coming to the us

[@TheOtherMrEd]

As a lawyer, I would advise clients to provide the minimum amount of information to avoid detention. If a cop has probable cause they can hold you for 2-3 days without charging you. Standing on principle by now showing an ID or answering simple questions is just wasting your own time. However, there are a BUNCH of questions you don't have to answer. If a cop pulls you over and asks "do you know why I pulled you over," "where are you going," "where are you coming from," etc. you don't have to answer. Cops will fish for probably cause in the hopes of getting you to say something that will give them a reason to detain you.

[@azazelgrigori9244]

Stuff like this should be taught in community colleges.

[@clydehinman7810]

JOHN DOE: Am I free to go? OFFICER MIRANDA: I cannot comment on an active investigation. Not to mention that the police are allowed to lie to you as long it's an "active investigation" You will never hear any attorney tell you this nor will you ever hear it asked to a police officer on the stand having been duly sworn in. I did ask that question when I was 18 and decided to represent myself on a speeding ticket in Lincoln County Oklahoma in 1988. My point was to show if the OHP officer was allowed to deceive, mislead or lie to a suspect as long as it was an active investigation then he could not be trusted to tell the truth about my speeding. The DA threw a fit and the judge told me to keep my questions on my defense and not guess at police procedure.

[@Jmhgddsert54377]

Got my first CADL in 1994, it states that it must be presented upon request of law enforcement. Just renewed it this year and it no longer states that...

[@genieploeger9757]

It is always better for you as a smart and wise person just to cooperate with law enforcement! You have the right to remain silent once you're Miranda rights are read to you. When you go to jail lawyer up immediately.

[@GCHandle]

reasonable suspicion is subjective for both parties

[@TuckBobo-nr7cm]

A law coming, against these people acting up

[@SwabJockeyJim]

When I lived in Virginia, if I open carried, as I understood it, a policeman could require me to give “cognizance.” This was in the 1980’s.

[@aidendaniels4063]

Considering going to the store, the doctor, a hotel, a bar, a club, DRIVING require to SEE ID. So yes you ARE required to have ID. You literally can't do much in the US with out one. Even amish have ID!

[@sargepent9815]

If in a "stop and ID state", never give them your DL (unless driving), provide them only what's legally required (name and date of birth) and tell them clearly that other than what's required by law, under threat of arrest, you won't answer any questions or assist in their investigation and CLEARLY invoke your right to remain silent

[@ZachCremisiSky]

If your driving is the only time in all states you have to. A passenger dies not but them being questioned is up to state

[@curbyourshi1056]

She'd get 11 digits from me, she'd call me back too. 😂😂😂

[@Paul-xj8ln]

“If they have reasonable suspicion…” they will always say they have it. It doesn’t matter if they actually do.

[@mercuriete]

The problem is solved if both part are require to ident. Like in Spain. If a police inquire you to ident, you ident. Period.

[@Hulky60]

Remember we're dealing with experts on the law must be that 6 weeks at the academy😅😅

[@klsstheglrls]

They can ask you to identify yourself, they can require you to have an ID. You can tell them your name and DOB, you're not required to do anything beyond that.

[@gabeescoto6590]

Mr. Hampton, as always thank for your information. Does Texas have the law that requires for one to have ID? And is one required to show your ID?

[@WilliamBunch-z9s]

Officer I have you on 8 cams right now. You have 1. I can show the court all your issues in 8 angles.

[@titanone7934]

They don't need to have reasonable suspicion. They need to have reasonable, articulable suspicion. One way to determine is to ask them what their reasonable suspicion is.

[@PsycheDude]

That cop at the beginning is adorable. She's gonna get my ID and my phone number 😅

[@Fizzbann]

Verbal communication has been found to suffice for verification in most states depending on the situation of the stop. Drivers of vehicles that require a tag would be required to have a valid drivers license, but other modes of travel do not. Officers in my area find walking unusual, but it isn't a crime.

[@anthonyfrattarola6482]

Maryland laws generally do not require you to produce ID to police on request outside of car stops and receiving citation. Montgomery County has a rule that allows police to detain you and requires you to truthfully identify yourself on request, even if you aren't driving or getting a citation.