What to make of James Franklin, Mike Yurcich, & Drew Allar after Penn State's 24-15 loss to Michigan

[@tommiller5014]

Disagree with the statement that JJ did not have a good day. He was 7/8 for 60 yds, ran for an important 1st down. Did not make any mistakes. Can't help that more passes were not called. PSU could not stop the run, so why change up the plan?

[@BlorbusUnimax]

it is a rare thing to see old school football, what a pleasing spectacle

[@rct7rct785]

I have to agree with my esteemed colleague @tommiller5014. All JJ had to do was hand the ball off to Corum and Edwards. Not much more. Running the ball down your throat is demoralizing if you can't stop it. Blue shirt guy and bearded-glasses guy could be a comedy duo with their post game analysis. Bearded-glasses guy says Michigan gave up on the passing game cause they couldn't block the front 7 🤣🤣🤣🤣 He says the front 7 "dominated" Michigan's Oline. Isn't that the same front 7 that Michgan gashed for 227 yards and 3 TDs. Didn't PS have the #1 rush defense in the country 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dylanwright3161]

@@rct7rct785they ran that ball 32 times in a row to make a statement, no signs needed

[@danasmith3288]

​@@BlorbusUnimax Oh am I showing my age. In an era of turning football into cheerleaders carrying pom-poms, it was very gratifying to some mental toughness of "smash mouth football" and control of the game clock.

[@BlorbusUnimax]

that is scary that michigan can do that, because we also know JJ can take over a game like he did with OSU last year@@rct7rct785

[@guythecookingsam2588]

I'm a Michigan fan, wanted to see this conversation. You were spot on. Franklin blew it on game plan AGAIN, and Allor was chucking passes to nobody in the 4th quarter. The better players won this time.

[@jivepatrol6833]

I'm a Michigan fan but PSU played hard and the defense was really good! I like Drew Allar and I think he made some big plays for a 19 year old young man starting in his 1st season. I think he's going to be awesome as he fully matures physically and gets more experience and playing time. All the best to Drew and PSU the rest of the season.

[@johnhatton730]

Best of luck the rest of the way!

[@MiningMareep]

Class, Your guy's Offensive line is always disgusting. We seem to be lacking in an offensive coordinator (or a head coach who can call an offense).

[@js280608]

Offense coaching let him down big time

[@newyorker3556]

I really think psu is jinxed really tough

[@SocratesTheWiseOne-tr3uf]

U of M fan and I also think Penn State is great. Drew is 19, why do Penn State fans magically think they should beat Ohio State and Michigan with a 19 year old quarterback in his first season starting? Penn State fans disrespecting OSU and U of M

[@gamecrafting1.091]

Michigan didn’t throw because they were running the clock out and dared Penn state to drive the ball (which they couldn’t do). If penn state drove and brought the score to lower than 8 you would’ve seen Michigan use McCarthy again. They didn’t want to risk a turnover and penn states offense couldn’t put together a drive, so y not burn clock.

[@blue-em9fk]

Correct. UM was simply boa constricting PSU once they had them wrapped up. Good night, Lights out for u, PSU

[@gmbtempe]

Penn St front 7 dominated? Teams dont run 32 straight times if the other teams front 7 is dominating. I would say PSU has a very good pass rush from their front 7 so rather than fight it Michigan just decided to run it and be conservative. PSU knew they were going to run it and still could not stop it...they had Michigans run signs for sure ( :

[@davevanlenten9938]

BET

[@edjasper92]

I don’t think you can say that McCarthy did not have a good day. He was 7 of 8. They didn’t need to throw the ball.

[@christopherrobbins9985]

Penn State defense is legit. Lots of NFL-grade players on that side of the ball. Good tough ball game.

[@philb.1502]

Michigan and Ohio State's defenses are better!

[@dougiefresh195]

As a Michigan fan, I want to say y’all put up a hell of a fight, also keep your coach. Lol

[@jeffreyblue627]

BET

[@dougiefresh195]

@@jeffreyblue627 BET!

[@skuehnl1]

If the B1G really wanted to hurt Michigan, they should have suspended James Franklin!

[@khrisstake2210]

​@@skuehnl1dude, how many times are you going to type that?

[@michaelrockow5461]

I'm a Michigan alum, and it strikes me that PSU is where Michigan was a few years ago. You can beat anyone except the big 2. We changed coordinators and that got us over the top. As for todays game, PSUs defense was really good today. Your D line got to JJ and bothered him a lot. This is a very good Penn State team. Good luck the rest of the way.

[@lordgrim355]

Yeah but the difference was we couldn’t beat Ohio state. We were beating Penn and msu. Penn state can’t beat us both

[@cryptoproperties]

Whoever called for the two point conversions is the first coach to fire.

[@eliottbressler8562]

@@lordgrim355what are you talking about? MSU beat you 21, 20, 17, 15-13. PSU beat you 20-19, 17. Some Michigan fans think 21 to present only exist lol

[@lordgrim355]

@@eliottbressler8562 buddy learn to read and comphrend. Michigan went 3-2 against both msu and Penn state from 2015-2019. Meaning Michigan could still WIN. The only team mich couldn’t win against was Ohio state. Penn st is going on now 2 straight years of not being able to beat either mich or Ohio st

[@joeseddit]

What got you over the top was Meyer leaving OSU.

[@motownmann]

Michigan fan here. Not here to troll. Your defense is ridiculous! So much speed and power, and from what I can see young. Just like your QB. You guys are going to be lights out next yr if you can keep folks there and not go pro. Good luck on the rest of the season!

[@davidmilton5887]

Yes,beating Michigan's RT like a drum caused Michigan to abandon the passing game. Maybe McCarthy banged his knee on the ground pretty good on his last run,and they didn't want to risk him getting hit.

[@motownmann]

@@davidmilton5887 very true…. So instead we ran it for 2 1/2 quarters str8 without a pass and wore that defense out with the RB.s, protecting JJ.

[@bravefreedom8283]

@@davidmilton5887 That is Barnhart and it is embarrassing it really is. #52 The guy cannot play. Put someone else in for God's sake.

[@inconnu4961]

Thanks for not trolling, and thanks for the encouraging vibes. You guys couldnt have gifted us a better opportunity to win this (no intentional disrespect to your OC), and we choked it again! This one will hurt for awhile!

[@rct7rct785]

@@davidmilton5887 yup, then Michigan ran the ball 32 straight times and curb stomped your front 7 for 227 yards and 3 TDs. Pretty soft for the #1 rush defense in the nation

[@murkrow2316]

Michigan Win #999 Thanks for a Great game Nittany Lions!!💯

[@matthewhuszarik4173]

McCarthy did exactly what Michigan needed him to do. What he was asked to do he did exceptionally well. Because Michigan didn’t ask him to throw the ball 20-30 times doesn’t mean he didn’t have a great game. He did exactly what Michigan asked of him and needed from him.

[@jaymoret7418]

What you make of it is that UM sign "stealing" had nothing to do with the L's PSU took the last 2 years. UM is just a better football team. Get over it and coach/play better.

[@tylermaxwell820]

You are correct. We were outclassed and out coached. Good luck to the rest of the way

[@SiberianSneaks]

Penn State got bullied and punched in the face for 3 hours. How James Franklin keeps his job is beyond me.

[@amirsyoutube9518]

Michigan fan here. What struck me was how the coaches played to not lose by a lot, vs playing to win. I get that your QB is young and your receivers aren’t world beaters, but at some point you have to give them a chance. He only has 1 int all year? That feels artificially low because he isn’t being given the opportunity to even try to make field flipping plays.

[@johannschultz3743]

Defense is excellent. Championship level Also probably underrated because it’s on the field way too much because the offense doesn’t move the ball.

[@davidmilton5887]

Very good,not excellent. Michigan ran the ball 32 plays in a row.

[@TripSe7en_77]

Underrated? It’s the second best defense in the country. And they certainly played like it! The defense is for real!

[@philb.1502]

Penn State's defense got trampled for over 200 yards rushing by Michigan!

[@jamessliwinski1993]

Defense is good, not excellent. A top defense would have had an answer for that Jumbo front. The D coordinator would do well to stop trolling social media and watch some film.

[@doctordetroit4339]

Form an old timer......It's amazing in this day and age of NFL-like passing that people forget what actually used to win games: ground and pound. You tire their defense. You deflate their offense, they get cold and antsy. And you gain confidence each second you have the ball. It's like watching a horror show and you can't do anything about it. That's why Michigan ran the ball the entire section half. And it worked. Splendidly. But it's "boring". Oh well. GO BLUE!

[@timmygressler7468]

Old time smash mouth B10 football

[@markmcphee6996]

Michigan fan here. I've always had a lot of respect for the Penn State football program. We were neck and neck with you guys in the very recent past. The best thing that Harbaugh did to get us up to OSU's level was bring in young, innovative coordinators; his brother's NFL connection certainly are bearing fruit. If Franklin can bring in top notch coordinators, that may be all you need to get there. PA is a richer state than MI in terms of football talent, so you have that going for you. I think you can do better than Yurcich (sp?) and Diaz.

[@LexRex717]

How does the program move forward, or get to the next level? Problem is they are stuck in a long contract with Franklin.

[@inconnu4961]

We dont! We dont move forward. Now we have some good Pac-10 programs to contend with (Oregon being an elite program). Chalk up 3 losses for us minimum going forward.

[@kevinchandler179]

I was a Franklin supporter for far too long after today!!! He has to go, because he has hit his ceiling, and we are a proud blue blood program!!!! WE ARE

[@jonjhon8491]

NOT A BLUE BLOOD PROGRAM

[@kchall5]

Texas A & M fans say the same thing. They have the ridiculously great facilities at Kyle Field, but the Aggies' on-field performance doesn't back it up. Claim a NC that's not from the 80's and then call yourself a blue blood.

[@joeseddit]

Ok, so who are you and your ten thumbs up buddies gonna replace him with? The next Scott Frost/Luke Fickell? All this talk about firing the coach of program that's nationally ranked each season is like a dog chasing a bus. What are you gonna do if you catch it?

[@cryptoproperties]

I was impressed with your running game and defense. The biggest issue in my opinion is your head coach.

[@wm479]

Yeah, the early Penn State run game had me, as a Michigan fan, worried. I wouldn’t say Michigan’s run D got “exposed” but it felt like there were some weaknesses showing that if Michigan’s D kept getting pounded, could wear them out.

[@cryptoproperties]

@@wm479 esp that wishbone type package they ran. Had some solid gains.

[@garysimons1608]

Defenses like Michigans and Ohio State will make offensive coordinators look bad. Drew is only 19 years old. Give him time.

[@RickLowrance]

I'm impressed. I don't know these three guys, but they are certainly able to keep their cool in a really bad situation. "I don't want to take the OC's livelihood away from him..." Wow. Such politeness. I'm happy no PB&J sandwiches were thrown at us.

[@500stoney]

Michigan fan here…These clowns talk about the OC. Isn’t the coach in charge? Did the OC decide on those ridiculous 2 point decisions and going for it on your own 30? These guys are a good representation of PSU football…CLUELESS

[@di114n2]

I really like Penn state formations and think they work pretty well . Seem like coaching and a qb they tell not to throw down field along with weak receivers are the issues

[@josephallen8044]

I don't know what you Penn state fans are complaining about. It was a very tough game,you should be proud of them.

[@Vaasu97]

Michigan fan here, PSU defense is legit. Both teams are elite, one just made less mistakes and ended up being more physical. Ggs all around.

[@marklambert6395]

PSU is not an elite team. Appreciate the compliment though.

[@tylermaxwell820]

I hate to criticize Allar, because he is fully invested in the program. He’s young and inexperienced, without help from WRs and play calling. It’s getting toxic. Plus a schism in the locker room doesn’t help

[@paultharp4626]

Let's talk about Yurcich and Franklin's history with OC's (hint.. he's only had 1 successful in his tenure and he left as quickly as he could), What about Yurcich prior to Penn State.. was he an aggressive play caller? Over Yurcich's six years at Oklahoma State, the program ranked fifth nationally in passing yards per game (315.9), 11th in touchdown passes (179), seventh in total yards per game (478.6) and sixth in scoring (38.0 ppg)

[@kchall5]

Yeah, Yurcich put up big numbers at Ok St, but it was the mid-2010's Big 12 where no one knew how to play defense, and video-game scores seemed to be the norm.

[@markjansson]

Moorhead was offered a HC job at MSU and took Tommy Stevens with him. Ricky Rahne did well enough to get a HC job at Old Dominion. They didn't quit to work at Burger King. Donovan's scheme from Vanderbilt wasn't working so he got fired. Ciarrocca got fired for doing about what Yurchich is doing now. As for Yurchich, I actually asked the Oklahoma State fan base what they thought of him on a pretty active Cowboy Facebook fan page. They universally hated him -- ranked him the second worst they've seen in the Mike Gundy era. Keep in mind that Bundy was burning through OCa because his offenses were putting up big numbers, so he called up Yurchich from Shippensburg of all places because he knew he'd stick around for a $400K job. He never really impressed when he was given more control and sort of took a demotion to be a QB coach at Ohio State. After a year of that, he got scooped as part of a short-lived coaching change at Texas. Then he got thrown out along with the HC. So, those Oklahoma State numbers were both a while ago and need some context. Franklin gave Yurchich a shot and has stuck with him even though the red flags of stagnation and dysfunction have been popping up all over the place. Yurchich has made millions of dollars doing this and the bottom line is that he's mediocre at best and gets completely out classes when facing opposing DCs from the likes of Ohio State and Michigan, who have NFL-level talent on the sidelines. Yurcich simply cannot compete with them at this stage of his career and maybe never.

[@louistschachler1167]

I think that may be because defense is optional in the Big 12.

[@louistschachler1167]

Sorry@k, Typed my response before continuing reading down and seeing yours.

[@psrandy1]

Play-calling on both sides was awful. But in all fairness, Michigan didn't need to pass or score. Franklin needs to take the heat for the game plan and the lack of RPOs and short high-percentage passes to get the kids confidence up. Franklin is the guy that needs to be held responsible for a crappy game plan and at any time during a time out etc Franklin could have said "Hey wait a minute".

[@michaelcso2400]

From everything I’ve watched you guys seem to think that Michigan is an overrated team….you’ve been convinced that Michigan is only good because they decoded signs and without it they couldn’t possibly beat you. Michigan isn’t ranked 3rd because they suck fellas.

[@denniswilson9227]

As a Michigan fan, I understand completely. I think people have to understand building a program takes time . I get it, we all want to win now, but let’s be realistic, it’s very rare and nearly impossible to do so. Changing the coach does not mean immediate success, in fact it resets the clock, because each coach has his own way of doing things. I don’t really know you guys coach, but it’s not all his fault either. Every coach spends hours drawing up the game plan, but the players have to go out an execute the plan. Players have to go out and make plays. Will there be miscues, sure that’s why you practice, so that timing is not an issue. I’m sure those players did and will be talking about what they personally have to do to get better and back to work they go. Guys keep your heads up and keep grinding, that’s what it’s all about. Future success is coming.

[@louistschachler1167]

It’s been 10 years, already. How long does it take to build a program? Took Harbaugh what, 6-7 years?

[@denniswilson9227]

@@louistschachler1167 you just answered it yourself. Everyone isn’t Coach Harbaugh and no two coaches have the same system. They can be similar in some ways, but not the same. In todays sports the athletes can pick when and where they want to play, so depending on the program every top athlete will not go into a system they don’t feel comfortable with. Coaches can attract top athletes based on name only.

[@GoDodgerBlueScarletBuckeye]

The game was served to Penn State on a platter. Not a Penn State fan, but thought this game would have been competitive. Penn State has a nice defense, but the offensive side is not being utilized and bad play calls.

[@inconnu4961]

Thats a good assessment there. I think we are seeing what you are seeing.

[@kchall5]

Early in the 2nd qtr Kaytron ran the ball for almost 10 yards on first down, so 2nd and short. What does Yurcich do? Calls a quick pass to a seldom-used receiver resulting in a loss, and then a QB keeper that comes up short. Absolutely stupid play calling, and Mich seemed to take the initiative after that.

[@MrCtsSteve]

Michigan guy here...ive always liked Penn State...you guys are almost there . Go Blue

[@JuliusSiezure]

In 1999 Frank Solich's Cornhuskers went 12-1, won the Big 12 championship, won the Fiesta Bowl, finishing #2 in the country. In 2000, he went 10-2, spanked the Big Ten co-champion in the Alamo Bowl 66-17, and finished #7. In 2001, Nebraska went 11-2, played in the National Championship game in the Rose Bowl, finishing again in the top ten. Less than two years later, he was fired at the end of a 9-win season in which Nebraska finished in the Top 20. That was the moment Nebraska heard the door slam as the big yellow taxi squealed away with the football they knew for four decades. Penn State needs to think long and hard before firing James Franklin

[@tsully4368]

Michigan ran the ball up the gut all game. PSU had no answers.

[@DrUdaiSSingh]

You guys are wrong on one point - the OSU game was not on the players; it was on Manny Diaz (who also stupidly trolled M, as if M needed more motivation) sticking with man coverage on Marvin Harrison Jr. Really? He thought Kaelin King, good as he is, could stop Harrison. He was the ONLY reason OSU won (11 catches for ~176 yards). Manny Diaz has these great players and he cannot call good defensive games (just look at the Indiana game, a horrible team that was tied with you guys with 3 minutes left!!!). Also, James Franklin is an awful coach. You paid for a Mercedes and got a Pinto. Feel for you guys but GO BLUE! And it is nice to beat Franklin's butt again because he was another one whining about the GREAT CHEATING SCANDAL. Well, we didn't have the signs, we didn't have our head coach and we still ran it 32 (!) straight times down PSU's throat. Didn't even need a playbook for that. TOTAL DOMINATION. Real score 25-9 (last TD was because M was playing prevent defense).

[@jonm4453]

I don’t understand complaining about the Philly special. It worked?

[@tylermaxwell820]

It was the Philly half special lol. So many bad calls by officials and coaches. Not our day. Accept it and move on. Oh well

[@littleprepper191]

We should not have to resort to trickery to gain one yard.

[@jeffreyblue627]

We love Franklin in Ann Arbor

[@inconnu4961]

As you should.

[@philb.1502]

If Harbaugh leaves for the NFL, maybe Michigan tries to get Franklin as the head coach.

[@TheOnlySasukeAnt]

As a Michigan fan, im in disbelief that we were able to run 32 consecutive times. The Shittany Lions should extend Franklin 30 years just to allow Wisconsin and MSU to have time to become relative again. #parody

[@inconnu4961]

After the NCAA deconstructs your program, we were hoping that could be Mi-Cheat-igan's job! #GoBigBlew

[@cumulus1234]

Personally as an OSU fan I sure wish that CJ Stroud had stayed one more year. I would feel more confident about November 25.

[@georgeoneal5644]

Michigan fan here, I am so glad that we finally have the better quarterback, just hope it's enough! Good luck, wait forget that.

[@di114n2]

It’s going to be a classic big ten physical game

[@dcsoda1]

Lmao

[@inconnu4961]

I agree would be better to have CJ, but he is having a good season at the NFL, so maybe he was ready to go up. Michigan is a beatable team, and you guys NEED to beat them! Good luck Ohio State!

[@ryanbarbosa3220]

Honestly with full disrespect to your team😜 with Jim being suspended and the michigan players fully bought into the coach and what they are doing. As a michigan fan I want Jim to not be on the sideline not because I think he's a detriment to the team. I believe that him being suspended is that spark that sets off the A-bomb that gives michigan that drive that no other team can match. I'm speaking as a hockey player that has been on both sides of the external event causes that let's call it hatred that makes you go out and hit harder that you put the other guy in the hospital and that noting will stop you from winning the game. Honestly I don't think OSU can match the same level of fire michigan will be playing with. The only shot osu has to beat michigan this year is they go out 3 Drives 3 TDs and hold michigan to 0 or 3 points. Now next year I'll say 70/30 osu. Thus year 99 percent chance michigan wins.

[@tcattorney1080]

I am a Michigan and will say psu played relatively well. I will say it’s hard to win when ur qb isn’t ready for big time or isn’t big time. This was michigans problem for most of harbaughs tenure particularly the beginning. We finally have elite talent at qb. We hope to continue getting that position solved. Without it, u are at a huge disadvantage against a team like osu who is out recruiting u for years. That’s the next step for psu to take. Unfortunately the conference is changing to let in more competition. It’s dicey for everybody.

[@TripSe7en_77]

Penn state’s defense is legit but their front 7 didn’t dominate LOL. Their pass rush dominated. Their front 7 got bullied by Blake Corum, Donovan Edwards and JJ’s legs. You don’t successfully run the ball (32 times in a row) on the #1 rushing defense in the country, if the #1 rushing defense in the country’s front 7 is dominating.

[@jonnybgood5764]

Michigan running the ball that much was 100% intentional. No question what we were going to do and couldnt stop it. Signs mean nothing. Its Franklins last season.

[@inconnu4961]

You are right, it was intentional! but it definitely isnt Franklin's last season. I think the university is happy where the football program is, they LOVE Franklin as the face of the University (DEI above everything else). So, we are stuck in this good, but not great position for the foreseeable future.

[@jonnybgood5764]

@@inconnu4961 well thats what dei gets you...mediocrity.

[@jonnyquest1597]

BOA CONSTRICTOR……….. BET !

[@g-man3093]

PSU is a couple years away. But competition at this level is ruthless. You must sim to beat the best in the conference and right now Michigan is that team. More dimensional running game. Power AND speed. Allar is in his first year. He shows he has legs. He could use OSU type receivers who separate. And the defense needs more heft to it’s speed.

[@rucotomo]

JJ didn't have a good game? He had one incompletion and ran for big 1st downs. JJ could start for any team on the nation. Put some respect on his name

[@krakenhawk]

Penn State has the Offense of a good JV team from the 1980’s! #BowDown

[@tylermaxwell820]

That’s an insult on good JV offenses lol

[@inconnu4961]

@@tylermaxwell820 In fairness, we scored more on Michigan than any other program they faced this season. it clearly wasnt enough!

[@rct7rct785]

the big knock on Michigan was they're 9-0 but they haven't played anyone yet. Well...looks like they still haven't played anyone

[@philb.1502]

They just beat a Penn State team ranked # 10 on the road. That's a big win for Michigan. Michigan should be ranked #2 in the next poll right behind #1 Ohio State, setting up an epic showdown when they play each other.

[@buccizero]

James Franklin needs to do two things. 1 - BEG George Barlow to join his staff. 2 - BEG for blessings from SuePa. Unless 10-2 is satisfactory.

[@teekay_1]

Commenting 8 months later, it's clear with time and distance from last season that the fundamental problems of PSU from the last 10 years remain. Overhyped expectations, a head coach who will never get PSU fans the championship they desire, and a team that isn't nearly as good as we were told To answer your big question, Allar is struggling because PSU didn't have good receivers, and the interior of the o-line was terrible. Something you guys should have pointed out during last season. Not letting Allar off the hook, he needs to get a lot better in pressure situations, but the line just wasn't as good as advertised. As we close in on 2024 going into year 11 of the James Franklin experiment, a rational person should expect a minimum two losses, and glamor bowl, and sneaking suspicion that PSU is locked into an infinite loop of being a good team, but never able to reach beyond that, and certainly will never win a national championship. My request for LONL is to be brutally honest about the team. Please don't hype a team that doesn't deserve it.

[@Calabrin1]

“JJ McCarthy did not have a good day.” He was 7-for-8. That won’t win him any Heisman support, but the fact is that he was having a fine day until Michigan decided all they had to do was run the ball down PSU’s throat. If you can run successfully and win the game, that’s probably what any team would do.

[@CuNguyen-ct8nk]

Penn State fans and the entire team better check themselves the next time they talk trash to Michigan. We could of throttled Penn State today and embarrassed you guys even more if we had thrown the ball. Let this be a learning lesson, Michigan is the Big Dog of the Big ten.

[@inconnu4961]

Well, you guys are the Big Cheaters of the Big Ten, that is true! Enjoy this season; your program is going to get wrecked! You guys will be average like us (Penn State), if not worse! Go Buckeyes Go Beat the Cheats!

[@georgeoneal5644]

J.J. did not have a "good game"? He was 7/8, and the one miss was a third down where he was being sacked as he threw! These guys do not understand situational football. The truth is by the second quarter Michigan didn't need to throw to win. Penn State knew they were going to run, and Michigan still got 4.9 yards per run! J.J was almost perfect!

[@tylermaxwell820]

What did I say? Check the boards. Feed the Fatman. Throw slants, don’t make bad decisions. It’s not that hard

[@robertpiller3791]

Are these guys kidding Michigan smoked you did not have to throw!!!

[@jhwilson00]

Penn State needs WR, plain and simple. We fired our WR coach at the end of last year because he did not build talent. It shows this year.

[@fayknotme9265]

Allar would just throw it behind him. Couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn.

[@chaseschneier1076]

PSU and the Steelers should exchange OC’s

[@inconnu4961]

It couldnt hurt, could it?

[@markchristian7024]

Michigan fan here. Don't be greedy Penn state. 10-2 is good. Done let good be the enemy of great.

[@nathanv4320]

True look what Nebraska did to themselves since they got rid of BO.

[@gregschulte2953]

Sorry guys, when UM went heavy right before half, the game was over. Michigan coaches and players knew it. Took the pass rushers out of the game and took advantage of a smaller interior D line. Mccarthy played the game as it was called, plus he was hurt for a good part of the 2nd half. He could care less about numbers-just wants to win. PSU is not quite there yet.

[@grundy333]

Fire Franklin. Plain and simple. He’s done. Had plenty of opportunities since he’s been here and just can’t do it.

[@paultharp4626]

Yep.. do your job Pat

[@philb.1502]

Franklin's contract is way too expensive for Penn State to fire him and then have to pay it out. He isn't going anywhere!

[@Calabrin1]

Yurcich needs to stop getting handed credit for the 30+ point games earlier in the season. It was evident during a number of those games that the offense was inept and a total shambles. It was problematic that they managed to score 30+ points so often, because that either numbed or blinded people to the fact that the offense was never able to consistently drive the field. The 30+ point games were largely the product of the defense/special teams frequently handing the offense good field position. Any time Penn State had to drive any significant distance, it was a shit show. Yes, there were a couple of exceptions against weak opponents, but no one with half a brain is going argue that those games were any true indication of what kind of offense we had.

[@rct7rct785]

Don't fire Franklin. OSU and Michigan loves the guy

[@inconnu4961]

LOL You love him more than we do right now! Do you wanna trade head coaches?

[@philb.1502]

Franklin's contract is way too expensive for Penn State to fire him and then have to pay him. He's not going anywhere.

[@BuckeyeKiller]

Penn State didn’t get outplayed, Just outcoached… by an offensive coordinator. Sorry but Franklin just cant beat the Big 2 in the B1G. Good game & Go Blue 〽️

[@inconnu4961]

Cant argue with that. We were out-coached again! Make sure you guys send Coach Franklin a very nice Christmas gift, since he helped you guys out again! Go Buckeyes!

[@sheneedsme]

Penn State by far was the toughest team Michigan played this year. The big question is can they beat Ohio State which is more talented than Penn State.

[@bradleythomas59]

Yes they can.

[@philb.1502]

No, they can't. Go Buckeyes!!

[@danasmith3288]

Bingo. NEVER underestimate your opponent. Let your talking be done on the field.

[@ericmeeuwsen2226]

Look, here's the harsh reality:PSU is a top 20 program. But that's it, it really doesn't matter who the coach is. Yes, James Franklin is a clown and we are very happy he's at PSU, but the fact is you guys are not going to do any better -- at least from a performance perspective. If the school were to ways with him due to his near constant clownish 🤡 behavior that would be a decent course of action. But aside from that...

[@fodetoure1576]

10-2 will be good enough for 12 team playoffs

[@Cabover58]

How many offense decommits will Franklin get Monday morning.

[@QuantumG432]

I think Franklin is a good coach. Nothing wrong with him. It’s the players fault.

[@tylermaxwell820]

You better not lol

[@crob3094]

4-16 vs Michigan and Ohio State for 10 yrs and thats all the players fault? When Franklin is the one constant. Wake up

[@paultharp4626]

Totally agree.. We have to get our left tackle to stop going for two at inappropriate times, and how about the slot receiver deciding to go for it on 4th down from your own 30 with over 4 minutes to go... crazy

[@QuantumG432]

@@paultharp4626 yeah, I agree!

[@Erica-vd1gb]

I no longer worry about Michigan playing Penn state

[@jw4139]

Playcalling has been an issue all season. Every game has been the same thing. I don’t know what you’re watching. If you’re giving kudos to someone saying they put up X amount of points so many times… Most of those games they won on talent. It wasn’t because of the playcalling they put up that many points.

[@nelsonpeltier2027]

Don't blame Drew .it's your coach he's 1 of 13 in the big games .not one kid .it's the coach that's been there for how many years an still sux

[@RichSDet]

You guys played hard, some downfield passing would help.

[@frankkluz9787]

Well -- the best team clearly won. -- Back to work and try to learn from it & get better ! Curious what Franklin sees as the answer to beating the 2 he just can't beat ?

[@inconnu4961]

LMAO better trick plays!

[@philb.1502]

Those two teams are in his head now! He has a horrible record against Ohio State and Michigan since he's been at Penn State as the head coach.

[@jsmity2007]

Less than 10 throws in the first half is just unacceptable and not a way to win. They have a championship caliber defense and terrible play calling.

[@sheneedsme]

Not true since Michigan only through 8 times in the first half and won, not to me mention they never through it in the second half.

[@idkisaidit]

Honestly, if analytics say to go for 2 in the first half, that is a genuinely excellent argument for the limitations of analytics. Use common fucking sense. Why in the absolute fuck would you put yourself in a position to potentially HAVE TO go for two later in the game - which is exactly what the situation ended up becoming when Michigan went ahead 17-9. Those decisions were so fucking BIZARRE that i couldnt even pull myself out of my confusion long enough to get angry. Indefensible.

[@uinthesun1761]

Michigan ran the not because they had no pass game, they ran it to punish the #1 rush defense.

[@1werewolf]

Oc will soon be gone. Franklin should be the one.

[@markmajkowski9545]

HARD to complain about risky calls - when PSU converts TWO 4th downs to score its TD. Losses to TWO top 3 teams means you’re still top 5 - I blame B1G schedulers putting top 3 schools in East. AL / GA only play in SEC Champ. GA gets East Walkover - like CL - now FSU getting the ACC walkover. Pollsters putting Louisville or OM ahead of PSU will be crazy. But B1G did that. Watch IA a team PSU clubbed 31-0 be closer to PSU than PSU to MI/OSU. Insanity.

[@philb.1502]

Penn State only schedules two tough games a year! That's it. Every other game is a twinkie. They can't beat Ohio State or Michigan! When are they going to win one of these games? They lost to Michigan at HOME, and Michigan didn't have their coach?

[@markmajkowski9545]

@@philb.1502 PSU will likely be FAVORED in NY 6 unless it plays GA/AL maybe OR/TX. That’s pretty high cotton. And by 7 over Louisville which will probably somehow (prejudiciously) be ranked ahead of PSU this week. Rose Bowl Champ - beats BTB PAC Champ - and people like you think they are terrible. We shall see how Franklin “failures” compare when it doesn’t draw TWO teams in top 3. And by TWINKIE does that mean Pitt which clobbered soon to be top 10 Louisville by three scores or UCF embarrassing ranked OkSU 45-3. No Twinkies. Just very few OSU GA AL. What Franklin has done with PSU astonishing from where it was. Certainly superior coaching to Sweeney without NFL top 10 QB. Funny how elite QB’s - Plunkett Elway Luck - come to mind as difference makers. Burrow Newton even Jackson Bridgewater as what “elevates”. Franklin multiple playoff berths if it had followed BC into ACC - instead - relevant comparison seems NE - and in West PSU likely 50/50 to Indy or better. We shall see where PSU “lands” but thinking it’s top 3 just not reasonable. Penix to PSU and Franklin probably gets OSU last year or better.

[@freemanmt1]

Quit putting it on the offensive coordinator for PSU I actually put it on James Franklin. His going for it on 4th down at the end of the game was utterly ridiculous. You punt and play good defense, not go for it at your own 30. I thought James Franklin was absolutely pitiful. Had harbaugh been on the sidelines I think it would have been a much worse loss.

[@naturalobserver1322]

Just curious, which teem do you Penn St fans feel is a bigger rival. Michigan or Ohio St. ?

[@joemuench754]

Ohio state without a doubt

[@DapoopMang]

Penn state to Ohio state is more like Michigan vs Michigan state. Then Michigan vs Ohio state is just next level

[@inconnu4961]

Ohio State!

[@RealTalkChronicles614]

Penn State is who we thought they were...an overrated bust of a team. Make no mistake about it Michigan dominated this team. They basically told you the whole game they were running the ball and you cannot stop it. Plus we know your offense stinks so you wont drive the ball to score when you need it. Michigan even made coaching mistakes and you still couldn't win. With Harbaugh it would have been a lot worse.

[@philb.1502]

Take it easy, partner. Michigan still has a showdown with Ohio State coming up. We'll see how good Michigan really is after that game.

[@RealTalkChronicles614]

OSU is almost a carbon copy of Penn State with a better receiver. It should be about the same outcome. Penn State might have won vs OSU if they would have used safety help instead of one on one coverage.

[@philb.1502]

@RealTalkChronicles614 The big difference between Ohio State and Penn State, like you said, is Harrison Jr. He's the best player in the country. Impossible to cover. I have to favor Ohio State because of him.

[@RealTalkChronicles614]

😂😂😂😂

[@philb.1502]

@@RealTalkChronicles614 Ohio State will beat Michigan in a close tough game. Ohio State by 6

[@Winkiepoohbear1]

These guys state what losers typically do-blame the loss in part on missed calls by the officials. The vaunted D of PSU could not stop U-M.

[@jonathanharvey5701]

Michigan is not a better football team. Penn State just has as it's head coach( 10,000,000 salary) from Vanderbilt(2011-2013) who is 4-16 against Ohio State and Michigan. Drew Allar( is that his name?) froze again. He was scared against Ohio State(20-12) and Michigan(24-15), but can beat a team 63-0(U Mass) and Maryland 51-15.

[@inconnu4961]

Drew Allar is an Ohio kid, so he KNOWS all the hype surrounding those programs. But his coaching staff didnt do enough to let him get comfortable and just ball.

[@jonathanharvey5701]

@@inconnu4961 Drew Allar need to complain. Look like an All American until he faced Ohio St n Michigan. Sherrone Moore, the stand in coach, crying and thanking the lord and Harbaugh after the game like an overwhelmed child. And James Franklin makes ten million.

[@kenwhitman1055]

Michigan ran the ball on purpose against the number one run defense in the nation, genius! PSU expected pass nearly every play and fell for it

[@Erica-vd1gb]

Michigan treated it like the cupcake strategy

[@marvbush5592]

That boy at QB for Penn is just 19, facing 2 powerhouse teams. I don’t know another teenager that can play and win against them so just stop

[@davidschneider6306]

PSU will finish 10 - 2. Most teams would be ecstatic about that and these three guys are ready to get in the bath tub like Frankie Pentangeli and open up a vein.

[@philb.1502]

Penn State only schedules 2 tough games a year! That's it. 10-2 looks good because Franklin schedules Twinkies to pad his record. The bottom line is Penn State can't beat Ohio State or Michigan. He can't beat the big boys.

[@kyllerkill]

Michigan abandoned the run because penn state couldn’t stop the run. And when they did they could move their ball

[@wvuguy26726]

What are u talking about?? How did Michigan "abandoned the run" when they NEVER passed the ball the whole 2nd half??

[@Narniak69]

Perhaps as the head coach of top 10 NCAA football team, it might benefit James Franklin to develop some basic math skills?

[@dcsoda1]

Guys it’s your offensive line. It’s always your offensive line. It’s not the quarterback.

[@philb.1502]

It's Allar the quarterback. He's young and isn't ready to beat teams like Ohio State and Michigan yet. That's obvious. His two WORST games this year statistically were against those two teams. That's not a coincidence.

[@dcsoda1]

@@philb.1502 how many QBs are you gonna repeat this line before looking at the line. There’s not a qb that’s going to save you if the line continues to be that bad. The sad part is your staff seems to think the same as you which is why it hasn’t changed in a decade.

[@philb.1502]

@@dcsoda1 Allar was sacked one time all game! Michigan only got to him once. That's about as good as any offensive line will do against Michigan. Allar has to get rid of the ball quicker and be more accurate with his passes. He made some bad throws.

[@sheneedsme]

I think Penn State could upset Michigan next year in AA because Michigan is losing about 20 players to the NFL. It will be a rebuild year with much stiffer competition coming into the league. Now or never Michigan.

[@philb.1502]

Who cares about next year?? They should have beaten them yesterday!! Penn State was at HOME and still couldn't beat a Michigan team that didn't have their head coach??

[@TripSe7en_77]

It won’t be as big a drop off as you think. Our defense rotates in and out all game long. On offense, our first string has only played the 4th quarter twice all season. Our second and third string offense have gotten reps all season against first string opponents. That in-game experience makes a huge difference going into the next season. There’s no rebuild here. Just reloading. Our 2024 class is number 3 in the country right now.

[@philb.1502]

@TripSe7en_77 Michigan is always good. If Harbaugh leaves for the NFL after this season ( that's the rumor), then Michigan might have trouble holding their recruits.

[@larrykiwak8046]

They don't play Michigan next year play USC and UCLA

[@philb.1502]

@@larrykiwak8046 That's good news for Penn State avoiding playing Michigan. They just couldn't beat them.

[@antionewooten6599]

Take the L and move on!!!!! If if if if lol!!!!😂

[@kevinchandler179]

Hire Urban Meyer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!+ With our talent, we would have won handily if Urban was our coach!!!!!!!!!!!

[@LockedOnNittanyLions]

I think Urban Meyer's coaching days are over. Notice how he bolted for the NFL at the beginning of NIL and the transfer portal.

[@kevinchandler179]

@LockedOnNittanyLions True, but believe me if we gave him the right money, we are a blue blood program that he would come to, fact!!!!! WE ARE

[@Outrider74]

Your players are great. But you need to rethink Franklin as your HC

[@kevinchandler179]

I agree, but never going to happen!!!! Unless, we all come up with 65 million dollars for the buyout!!!! We are in college football purgatory, literally!!!!

[@michiganmarv1860]

James Franklin is the problem

[@buntykumar9079]

Another lost season with a playoff caliber defense. Watching PSU is the definition of insanity.

[@greatestdadever98]

Franklin did Franklin things. Dumb calls. Chasing points in the 1st half, going for it on 4th down w 5 min left n 2 TOs. Bad coaching by the head man and it happens every big game. #goblue #keepfranklin

[@JackWilliams-rb1th]

He lost to the back-up coach...

[@inconnu4961]

Thats the 2nd back up coach that Franklin has played, AND lost to! Nothing's shocking here.