What to REALLY expect from the 2025 DRIVERS!?

[@SASGolf]

Thanks again DCuz599 for the question! (Not sure why I thought you had DJ in your username) haha… love to hear your guys thoughts on this video 🙌

[@Dcuz599]

Love the video! And thank you for your advice, I’ll be looking to get fit for sure!

[@StevelandCleamer]

A couple things are clear for me for the 2025 releases: 1) taylormade wants to be cobra this year, but will continue to have issues because gluing carbon to titanium doesn’t work. 2) cobra’s new hozzel is neat, but won’t make a big difference at all for the average player. 3) Callaway needs to fire whoever is in charge of aesthetics on their drivers, because… uhh…. wtf is that? 4) Srixon is going to get a little more recognition this year on the woods line. The last ones were really good. This one is seemingly just an improved one. 5) they’ll still all be overpriced and promise the world while not being all that much different than last year.

[@bobsofia68]

There was a window last year, here in the US anyway, where the G400 Max Drivers were right around $100-$120 (Nov.-Dec, 23'). Held 5 or 6 in hand at PGA SuperStore & GolfGalaxy, then new drivers dropped & 10K MOI was all the rage and the prices shot up as a cheaper 10K alternative. Those same G400 Drivers in the same exact condition are fetching $190+ now.

[@Ducebogies]

My local Golf Mart had the g430 max at 399$ with fitting into your selection of shaft stock shaft options obviously. For brand new driver couldn't pass it up I did buy the QI 10 brand new at the beginning of the season but the Ping just works better for me happy I got it.

[@daiwilliams5628]

Another great informative video Simon. I love that fact that the titles of your videos are factual with no sensationalist claims. It is clear that your integrity in your content is paramount. Keep up the good work. I'm sure you've done one but I'd love to see a video from you about 2nd hand wedges. I could use help with these as my short game isn't the best ! What loft / bounce would work best for a 19HC

[@FelixPerez-ts3lx]

Pearls of wisdom young man...great job

[@kolchak357]

For clubs, I always expect more of the same with different colors and great marketing. Not planning on buying anything other than golf balls in 2025 though. ⛳️

[@marybetheby5184]

Same,, I'm good on clubs for awhile. Can't justify the crazy cost anymore and will stick with my trusty set.

[@JDSFLA]

My go-to driver right now is a 2018 Bridgestone JGR head that I bought from Japan for US$40, and then had my local golf store install a stiff Even Flow shaft in with a midsize grip. Total cost about $150 and this driver is consistently long and straight. None of my newer drivers - Callaway, PXG, Honma - can beat it.

[@13vansman]

I went from a 94-95 Callaway Warbird driver that I bought new at the time, to a Ping G425 Max that I got on sale for a couple hundred off. I had numerous free fittings at my local golf shops and stores, before deciding on what worked best for me and what I felt most comfortable with. I golfed quite a bit in the 90's into the early 2000s. I golfed, maybe once per year between 2005 and 2021. That's why my trusty old Warbird was still in my bag. I've been very pleased with my G425 Max. I don't see any reason to change. A possible couple of yards longer from the "latest and greatest" won't do much for my game. I'd be better off spending "new club money" on lessons if I really wanted to improve my drives. Maybe 5 years down the road I'll make a change.

[@petekenny3774]

Cobra aerojet people is at a bargain price 👀👀👀🤯🤯🤯 I'd be buying that

[@kevinmcdonald1917]

Can’t afford them anyways. Ridiculous how expensive they are now.

[@adambarnes4191]

Says the dude on a 20k death machine. 😂

[@marklags2396]

Been gaming the G425 Max since it came out in Jan of 21. Last week I purchased another one at a great price. Guess I dont like change.

[@CanadianBiPolarBear]

Not much difference in the 430 so why not keep playing it untill the balls get rolled back

[@watersoilsun847]

Very informative if i was in the uk i would see you for a fitting.

[@AwlDeigh]

Nicely done…studied quality insight…thanks😊

[@paulbrown7425]

No just another con, I used the taylormade M2 2016, awesome driver in my bag and staying there, you can put so much technology in a driver, but it's still the person using it, no matter the technology, well so called technology. Sorry Simon but I am very cynical in all the claims of these brands. Like you said in your top driver opinions you said taylormade M2 was epic and the cobra King F9 again I think you are completely right about these drivers. That's why I'm sticking with my M2. For me I cannot justify spending stupid amounts on a driver it's ridiculous, especially nowadays. I say to your subscribers stick with what you are comfortable with, and don't worry about the golfer who has all the really expensive clubs, clothing etc.but can't hit a ball to save their life, just stand back and laugh, brand snobs.

[@tonythaiger93]

TS2 at $125. Z785 for same price. 2018 drivers are sweet spot with great MOI and technology.

[@marybetheby5184]

I'll try them all out,,and then out drive them all with my SLDR from 2014..😂

[@nbleafer]

Great run down again Simon, just makes sense to me.

[@Ace_soul7]

My SIM2 is still an absolute rocket i just hit my longest drive ever at 337yds total and got my first eagle as well

[@edge21str]

Got a G400 for 140 last year. Still happy with it.

[@VideosbyStew]

At this point buy head only online and put your preferred shaft in it. Nearly every driver that has come out since 2016 can get you similar distance, it all comes down to how the driver sits at address, open closed or square and getting the correct shaft, most people are playing a driver shaft that is too stiff. This will kill your distance more than anything…

[@willhumphreys2588]

Spot on

[@donkee9]

I don’t need a driver since ping just replaced my 430 lst cuz it cracked so it’s only a month old. I might give the 440 a chance just see if there are any gains. For some reason the 430 found more fairways for me than the 425 and sounded better.

[@DMKFACTOR]

About 1-2 yards and 1-2% better dispersion. Maybe 1 MPH ball speed! Better to go get a driver from 2 years ago for a 1/3rd the cost! You can still find Rouges and Aerojets brand new for a huge discount!

[@OnTheSnap1]

Max 10K owner who plays at home a ton with a QuadMax. The spin consistency on off center hits and esp low on the face is truly impressive. I don’t see upgrading unless something amazing appears on the market this year

[@logancarman1917]

Been looking into the same club, can I ask how fast your swing speed is?

[@OnTheSnap1]

@@logancarman1917about 104, maxing out at around 150 ball speed.

[@ChrisWade]

Mad that the Ping G400 Max is basically a 10k driver and now they're all the rage just 6 years later

[@Dynamic3DLtd]

Just picked a near mint ex demo ping g430 10k driver for 329 at American Golf in boxing Day Sale, I'm going for finding fairways at all cost in 2025 and seeing as I am a long term ping guy it seemed a no brainier, even got them to put the ping tour black 2.0 in there from another driver. I'm, done with new drivers now, I have seen how insane its gotten over the last few years, with an obsession with distance, then an admission that they want to maximise forgiveness after they pretty much failed to deliver anything really longer. This driver will give me that confidence off the tee that I pretty much have the most forgiving driver ever made and that will be a true statement to within a few percent for many years, so that is one less thing I have to worry about. I know there will be all kinds of marketing and claims on the new stuff, but I don't believe them anymore. So I'm looking forward to just being happy and knowing I pretty much have the best possible chance of finding fairway off the tee with this thing and I avoided going for the

[@crightonm5703]

I’ve had a sneaky peak at the new Wilson Staff driver and it looks amazing, however having just bought the dynapower driver (which I hit pretty well), I just don’t see the point of upgrading for a good few years

[@AsadKhan-lm6yr]

Nothing wrong with my Sim2 max 10.5 deg More time and money to be spent on my game…especially my short game!!!

[@bigjohny8446]

Ive got q g425 and just got a nice upgraded shaft Can't see anything coming out anytime soon that would really do much better for me

[@justinmorton2386]

Got the same driver myself. May not be the longest of the bunch but it’s a fairway finder 🎯

[@CanadianBiPolarBear]

Mise well play it untill the balls get rolled back

[@declanmurphy2594]

I’m looking at going for a fitting but unsure if I should wait for the new equipment to release in a few months, however I’m confident I will be looking at getting the already released Titleist equipment.

[@elig4056]

Try it all out though , you paying for it so force that experience and be open minded.

[@biggerminds523]

If you have a fast swing speed and carry around 280-300 yards it's like 12 yards in carry between brands. And if you have a swing speed that makes you carry around 240 yards it's not more than 8 yards between brands. And if you swing slower and carry around 200 yards it is not more than 5 yards difference. And of course if you are even slower around 180 yards it's not much difference, just 3 yards between brands.

[@aubincl1]

I can’t afford a new 2025 driver that usually are the only driver you can get fitted for. My question is: can you go to a fitting and leave with generic information about your ideal specs so we can apply them to a older model and what are the info we should ask for other than shaft flex? Thank you and love the content!

[@mrwoo33]

Hi Simon, great video. I've tried various modern drivers and found them pretty much of a much. I eventually went to a Taylormade M2 from 2017. Its long and forgiving and finds me fairways. When it comes to fitting, you need an honest and educated fitter. My friend was fitted for a £500 driver using range balls. How can you be fitted for launch, spin and ball speed with range balls. Consumers need to beware of these people

[@stevethomas4310]

A great option is to get fitted for a 2024 driver when the 2025 ones come out, thereby getting fitted and paying a lot less. I did this when Stealth 2 came out and I swapped my old Yonex (7 years old) for a fitted Stealth for over £100 saving.

[@mattwells3818]

Do you think there could be a market for 'fitting' second hand drivers, to find the right head/shaft combo? If the fittings were paid for and the clubs were comparatively modern could it be a viable business for club fitters? It would certainly help a ton of golfers get the right head/shaft combo without spending £700 on a new club and a premium after-market shaft.

[@DavidSpearman-ty5bh]

I went to a driver fitting. The new driver got me 10 yards extra distance, same dispersion, thats $100/yd. I dont have sponsors, so keep it

[@stevenwhiting8941]

Think before putting a lot of money into a driver. There are plenty of great used drivers available. They are usually available at a 50-75% discount then they're original price. You don't use the driver on every hole. Instead put your money into lessons and find a legit professional fitter. They will let you know what you need and don't, save you a lot of time. They will get you into the right product and shaft for your game. Selecting the right driver shaft is one of the most important keys in selecting the correct driver. This guy is correct, listen to his advice.

[@BrianOSullivan-tb3if]

The annual new driver release is the greatest marketing waffle feast in gold! Every year new £600 drivers are released. Bigger, faster, longer, more forgiving oh and better! Most of the time it’s a new pain job!!! Save your money and get last years for half the price!!

[@anthonyhemsworth7417]

Im thinking of getting a aerojet driver, got a areojet 7wood (injured atm so havent used it) but thinking the aerojet would be a nice upgrade from pxg 0211 2020 version and roughly between £130-190 on ebay and would look nice in the bag with the 7wood

[@Kaiju-Goji]

Im saving up for a sim max 2 Ive got an M2 which i will keep I just like the look of it 😂

[@johnkokott8570]

Brilliant!!

[@michaelaherne3453]

@SASGolf I'm an 18 handicap playing 5 years, driver speed 102-105mph and miss is left on the bad ones. Have a 2-3 degree up attack angle and a relatively aggressive transition. Gaming an evenflow red max carry 60g stiff - love the counter-balance weighting and the height my drives achieve. Im thinking about going X-flex in the same shaft to counter the left miss, what are your thoughts on this given my speed?

[@rodneyshelby4371]

An amateur golfer does not need 33 adjustments on a hosel setting from Cobra that will do nothing but confuse the hell out of you😂😂😂😂

[@handycrew]

Yes I agree. But rn I’m still growing so with constant swing changes and just being different heights, those .5 uprights or flat could come handy.

[@shanemartin8934]

Yes but it gives you more time at home too zone out when the wife or girlfriend starts trying to tell you Dumb shit , You can thank me later 😂😂😂

[@atfinthehouse8631]

How long will a driver last? Really need to spend $200-600 each year to replace the one you are already using?

[@paulfarns1]

After watching your previous video on swing speed\shafts where you said "don't be put off by shaft flex, just try it", I spotted a local pro selling off Ex-demo equipment. Picked up a Qi10 with hardly a blemish on it for £259. Same shaft I was playing previously but in regular not stiff. Was allowed to take it out on course to test. My question, should your subscribers be looking at this route as an option for buying during 'silly season'?

[@markspence5288]

Ex demo 24 driver. Get a decent shaft change every 2yr keep the shaft

[@tythegolfer6279]

I hit a cobra fly xl pw 140yd I'm good with my M4

[@petekenny3774]

Id love to know what the sales figures are like for the big brands ...and then to release new models eveey year 🤷🤷💰💰💰💰

[@roondoggers87]

I’ll keep my LTDx LS until it fails. Thing is a rocket still.

[@garycortesi8406]

Is Ping going to make a mini driver?

[@ianlinfoot2563]

If i buy a premium 25 driver with the intention of keeping it for many years will it still be able to cope with the "ball roll back " in a few years time ?

[@LeeCharles90]

My £30 2006 cobra I got when I bought a £120 second hand set of Wilson fat shafts…… all in mint condition for the age…….. still working just fine and I still par 5’s in two. Why would I pay 20 times as much unless I wanna show off my clubs more than my scorecard😂😂😂

[@robertcourt8593]

Just get a new headcover 😂

[@AsadKhan-lm6yr]

You win

[@nelsonjames1272]

Crafty😊 but true.

[@brodygoalie]

Ping G440 ??????? Please advise

[@nathanthomas8222]

Facts👍🏻

[@justinsayles4211]

Snagged a gt2 head for $300 only way im buying the new stuff is for a steal 🤓

[@sausagembape677]

The game needs to be administered for the players not the industry around it, tighten the regulations around equipment, including balls so that everyone basically plays the same, therefore much cheaper, game.

[@petelock5266]

What is the point of a new driver if the gains are so marginal?

[@Pud56]

Looked at the USGA conforming site, this year looks to be the year of adaptability, fools gold

[@nevillehubbard7347]

Great video, but please, no!!! How few yards do any of us want to gain? 3 yards, 5 yards, er?????? To me, they're is a load of b@!!@cks, surrounding new clubs! How many yards will we all gain, as Simon says, ....... not much!!! £550? Really??? No thanks! I'll stick with a really good coach (👍), and the-year-before-last's Ladies driver, and I can still mix it with the best of them!!!! 🤣

[@teslarocks7345]

They will cost a lot more than drivers 3 to 5 years ago and won’t hit much further. So why buy one?

[@王毅-p1u]

Buy second hand clubs to be smart😊

[@deanregan7011]

Let's be generous and accept that driver distance has increased by 15 yards and dispersion has tightened by 2 or 3 yards for the averge golfer in the last 10 years. Why would any sane average golfer want to hand over £500 for next years driver to gain, at most, 2 yards of distance over this year's?

[@JiKimbo]

I'll tell you what to expect... More expensive drivers, with different colour schemes, new names. And that's about it. No different performance. 😂

[@2bNIKEt1]

How could any company justify releasing this often?

[@aaronmccardie8795]

Always buy last years model ive only changed my driver once in over 10 years. Don't believe all the hype the manufacturers tell you it's all about sales not increased performance 5 to 10 yards is absolutely nothing

[@marc6652]

The great myth of new drivers every year... 🙄It seems like nobody knew that you lower your score in the last 100 miles, when you improve your short game (wedges and putting). I spend 80% of my training time looking for improved control on approaches. And 20% in heating balls. Not the opposite. That's why I keep my Big Bertha 21 but I changed recently my wedges for 3 Vokey.

[@zamboon]

Lot of codswallop...get to the point without all the unnecessary words. Quality not quantity if you want t remaini relevant.

[@Darren-df2wn]

Dont fall into the fast talk trend !!!! Its a load of rubbish . And destroys all the rapore, with the coustomer 😢

[@ekinjtizll]

Every year you come out with videos how all the new stuff isn’t worth buying. You will show us all the eBay comps for last year’s model for cheaper. Enough with your channel for me. I get your whole play for cheaper ideas but it’s just the same tired ass complaining from you every year.