WHAT TOP % MMR LOOKS LIKE IN EUROPE! - Dead by Daylight!

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@TrU3Ta1ent
@TrU3Ta1ent 3 жыл бұрын
I was using an addon which made my shocks fire VERY far, which was good for gen pressure but not as good for chase. Would o been interesting using a more anti loop addon for quicker chases, however the gen pressure would have been much less and gens could have gone a lot faster, I did slow the gens quite a lot through shocks. Either or, I think we were screwed no matter what.
@mechamobibo
@mechamobibo 3 жыл бұрын
Were they memey and for fun or good for gen pressure?
@TrU3Ta1ent
@TrU3Ta1ent 3 жыл бұрын
@@mechamobibo bit of both, was testing them, knew they were not as good as normal shock but still we did get VERY good gen pressure with them, just weaker chase.
@cant_handle_deeznuts
@cant_handle_deeznuts 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it would be interesting to see how that would play out. Such a shame they picked a favourable map as well.
@mechamobibo
@mechamobibo 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrU3Ta1ent I don't know...you waste maybe 5-7s and need to stop, give up bloodlust, aim and be kinda close and in the same level as the survivor just to get 1 level of madness, you need 3 to get them off the gen for 12s I think.
@lucamarino1226
@lucamarino1226 3 жыл бұрын
You fuk**ed that up at the start with the downed guy and the missed swing on the ace dropping down the hole which then caused a snowball effect for the survivors
@thirsty4souls
@thirsty4souls 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't help but laugh alongside Doc shocking left and right, sounds like he's having a blast despite everything that happened in this match lol
@StarlyYakizawa
@StarlyYakizawa 3 жыл бұрын
He was crying on the inside.
@thirsty4souls
@thirsty4souls 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarlyYakizawa aren't we all
@dairyproducts6633
@dairyproducts6633 3 жыл бұрын
Having a static blast ;)
@cameronhutton2811
@cameronhutton2811 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t even treat the sound “bug” as a bug anymore and just the sound the devs want to happen
@kohout1148
@kohout1148 3 жыл бұрын
Don't think there was a sound bug .. he just had the tenacity and crawled away really fast when True was slugging him.
@cameronhutton2811
@cameronhutton2811 3 жыл бұрын
@@kohout1148 but there is a sound “bug” in this game and the devs are either deciding not to fix it or are unable to.
@groovymyers1354
@groovymyers1354 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameronhutton2811 Theres a new one I've noticed as well. When you kill a survivor on hook, you can still hear their groans of pain after they're dead. Which can be extremely fucking distracting, especially if theres more than one of the same survivor in game.
@vinipcplayer
@vinipcplayer 3 жыл бұрын
well the doctor lost but at least he laughed his ass off
@Twilzeth
@Twilzeth 3 жыл бұрын
I played a total of 6 hours during the mmr test and I've never been that tired from having to tryhard as killer 😂 Every single game was a non stop sweaty struggle against people who knew exactly what to do when and where. Was definitely a fun day of dbd but man I don't want this mmr all the time, way too exhausting and que times were over 5 minutes every time
@primalux1896
@primalux1896 3 жыл бұрын
No more killers gonna play on high ranks so 🤷🏻‍♂️ I noticed it too on the first day. If they want this mmr they need to make maps fairer for M1 not only adding safe pallets
@iTz_ParZ
@iTz_ParZ 3 жыл бұрын
@Mr Popo that’s the problem. If they do that, one or both queues will suffer. Forcing everyone to play in the one mode dbd has STILL takes this long. Adding 2+ modes will just make it infinitely longer. And then you’ll have sweaty competitives playing casual busting on newbies who just want to enjoy the game, and newbies wearing down people trying to win on competitive. They have dug themselves into a hole they don’t know how to get out of
@ItzLonie
@ItzLonie 3 жыл бұрын
@@iTz_ParZ comptetive matches should be timed then for period of times if que times are suffering Its not a bad idea adding a new mode afterall people in the only game mode for all players take it too seriously
@iTz_ParZ
@iTz_ParZ 3 жыл бұрын
@Mr Popo @Chujim I would hope for the best and that it wouldn’t be an issue. I’m all for the idea of another game mode, I myself hope one day we can do a 2v8 on a conjoined 2 map areas
@iTz_ParZ
@iTz_ParZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItzLonie idk how to @ double so ⬆️ lol sorry
@euthas
@euthas 3 жыл бұрын
Expectations: This game Reality: Rank 18 killers and survivors.
@madarastarkofwinterfell467
@madarastarkofwinterfell467 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what a game looks like with good survivors.
@catzillaohmygod1022
@catzillaohmygod1022 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the guy starts making excuses when he plays against top ranked players that actually aren’t potatoes.
@firelinksshrine1695
@firelinksshrine1695 3 жыл бұрын
@@catzillaohmygod1022 lol when did he do that?
@catzillaohmygod1022
@catzillaohmygod1022 3 жыл бұрын
@@firelinksshrine1695 If I have to tell you when, then you’re not paying attention.
@firelinksshrine1695
@firelinksshrine1695 3 жыл бұрын
@@catzillaohmygod1022 no it just means you're trying to straw man lol
@mr.o8004
@mr.o8004 3 жыл бұрын
@@firelinksshrine1695 no he definitely starts marking up excuses when he played top tear survivors, he complains about rng quite a lot, complains about survivors choosing maps that he “when you play against me don’t pick a easy map to go against me” like go back to some of his older vids too and you will hear more
@ocaalways
@ocaalways 3 жыл бұрын
Once you start going against good survivors, you have to “play to win” instead of “playing for fun”
@HercuKong
@HercuKong 3 жыл бұрын
It's like this all the time in solo queue. Solo survivor is significantly more difficult than killer will ever be. Some killer mains are now getting a taste of that and realizing they aren't as good as they thought they were. They are facing opposition that is trying as hard as them instead of getting easy games vs solo queues.
@tastezemelon7229
@tastezemelon7229 3 жыл бұрын
@@HercuKong Difference is in solo queue you get f'ed by people playing shit instead of playing good.
@HercuKong
@HercuKong 3 жыл бұрын
@@tastezemelon7229 Agreed, but you're definitely being put up against a significantly more difficult challenge regardless. Some solo queues are just hopeless no matter what you do.
@morazclown8199
@morazclown8199 3 жыл бұрын
@@HercuKong I lay killer and surv so I do know what you mean but you basically saying “this is a taste of your own medicine” is kind of an asshole thing to say. Like the difference is coms it’s not a massive skill level or anything. I’ve played against shit swfs and shit killers at high ranks same goes for good as well. Also you saying solo wyd is much harder than killer can be true but it ain’t because it’s a case by case basis some solo que players are great while others aren’t. Also most killers like a challenge that includes myself but getting destroyed game after game isn’t fun. I try to make the game fun for survs even tho I do play annoying killers from time to time but my point being out of all this is no one wants to sweat 24/7 in this game. Playing high mmr isn’t fun for me or other killers and survs cuz people like to be chill. So why should anyone get a taste of none stop sweat when you just tryna chill and play a game that shouldn’t be as competitive as it is
@updatedotexe
@updatedotexe 3 жыл бұрын
@@HercuKong "significantly more difficult than killer will ever be" HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@uncagedpine9589
@uncagedpine9589 3 жыл бұрын
Respect for keeping your cool true. I’d of lost my damn mind this game.
@TrU3Ta1ent
@TrU3Ta1ent 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't phase me anymore lol
@KingsNerdCave
@KingsNerdCave 3 жыл бұрын
Brutal match. They kind of lose respect as players since they had the offering for an easier surv map (which is why reworks > new maps). But damn you cannot make ANY mistakes as killer at times like these. This is why I keep myself green to purple ranks. Could I try for red, yeah, but I don't want to have games like this. I want to improve but chasing people for too long for few hits and gens popping 60 seconds apart I just can't leave even with the sense of having learned something.
@albapantheratigris6071
@albapantheratigris6071 3 жыл бұрын
Disagree, we need new maps. Don’t forget the latest map they reworked was Gideon “pallet” plant.
@confusedlemur12
@confusedlemur12 3 жыл бұрын
And i'm here with white ranks and getting games like this :/
@NotHypnoEmpire
@NotHypnoEmpire 3 жыл бұрын
And the game feels like it has 30+ pallets and half of them are completely safe. They somehow made a lot of the maps worse.
@NotHypnoEmpire
@NotHypnoEmpire 3 жыл бұрын
@G B The whole balance team is a joke. They refused to nerf OoO because it had a low escape rate, they said they wanted to buff Knock Out but they nerfed it in the same patch, they said Hillbilly was the most balanced killer in the game and then they nerfed him, it took them years to nerf moris and they still have done nothing to address keys... some people definitely need to be fired.
@Andy-jw9ke
@Andy-jw9ke 3 жыл бұрын
Scummy to derank for easy wins
@zacattak4837
@zacattak4837 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the high mmr is a pain, It affects killer as a whole not individual killers from what I've experienced.
@StarlyYakizawa
@StarlyYakizawa 3 жыл бұрын
I just played 1 match on every killer I have and got 4k on almost all of them(the exception is plague)
@zacattak4837
@zacattak4837 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarlyYakizawa same happened to me. My plaugue is only level 30. I was hoping to go against easier survivors since I never play plaigue but they were all rank 1.
@iamZooom
@iamZooom 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarlyYakizawa anyone who is a good killer can 4k against the average Survivors
@StarlyYakizawa
@StarlyYakizawa 3 жыл бұрын
@@iamZooom only 1 purple rank per game.
@iamZooom
@iamZooom 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarlyYakizawa yeah red ranks are better but there's thousands of Survivors who are red rank who aren't that good. I'm not saying you're a bad killer but getting a 4k with every killer is nearly impossible against competent teams. Don't get me wrong you can win good teams but the odds are not in your favour in this game
@flakdampler11
@flakdampler11 3 жыл бұрын
Damn that looked hard. Tru3 was playing so well, too. I don’t know what else he could have done.
@S0l0Clipz
@S0l0Clipz 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn’t playing well, he over used his shock in chases, kept losing bloodlust.
@Pkoko100
@Pkoko100 3 жыл бұрын
@@S0l0Clipz For tru3 decent survivors who know how to loop= top %mmr
@TrU3Ta1ent
@TrU3Ta1ent 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pkoko100 nup top % is top %. If you can't see the difference that's fine, but I can. I even went against and played with some of ema with mmr on and they are classed as the best tourney team atm. So yeah, I'm with the top %.
@dbdlegacy5552
@dbdlegacy5552 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrU3Ta1ent it wasn't team ema , it was someone pretending. I spoke to team ema and they have no idea who that ace was.
@TrU3Ta1ent
@TrU3Ta1ent 3 жыл бұрын
@@dbdlegacy5552 wouldn't have been much difference. The game at its top level is very reachable by many.
@akabanetobikuma5092
@akabanetobikuma5092 3 жыл бұрын
Feels like the mmr proves your point about the 50 challenges you had with otz. Lol going against better players will easily ruin a streak.
@vukulv9294
@vukulv9294 3 жыл бұрын
MMR would ruin DBD in general, once you have reached certain point you will only start to see Nurse and Spirit as a survivor and the sweaty matchs as a killer would be more frequent resulting on people getting tired of it and leaving the game
@Giathirds
@Giathirds 3 жыл бұрын
he loses those streaks all the time. almost everything in dbd is luck
@Vezuls
@Vezuls 3 жыл бұрын
I mean noone argued against this lol.
@ashonline77
@ashonline77 3 жыл бұрын
i think as "unbalanced" as it can seem sometimes without mmr, this game would undoubtedly be more fun without it because you're not constantly getting sweaty players from either side and have those different levels of difficulty in different matches will keep it interesting. if it always feels the same, it'd feel exhausting. not to mention the high queue times ruining your experience anyway.
@Spycrab699
@Spycrab699 3 жыл бұрын
If mmr is like this it isnt gonna work and not going to be fun for no one especially streamers
@cant_handle_deeznuts
@cant_handle_deeznuts 3 жыл бұрын
At high level absolutely for both sides, you get a harder time as killer and you are forced to 3 gen and slug every game. As survivor you'll only play against spirit and nurse, and most of the time you won't get enough challenge than nowadays.
@ItzLonie
@ItzLonie 3 жыл бұрын
How should mmr be then?
@morazclown8199
@morazclown8199 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItzLonie it shouldn’t be a thing. This is not the type of game that needs that kind of system it’s fun game not a fucking shooter or rpg game.
@OrphansCorpse
@OrphansCorpse 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItzLonie leave it how it is. It's way better than this. Im a rank 1 killer and surv solo. I have about 400 hours. As killer with this new mmr, im playing against sweaty people who seem to enjoy a tbag, clicky flashlight, anything they can do to 'troll' but, they know how to loop decent I end up killing them, and the end game chat is them being toxic and salty. Their ranks are 16, and im like no way are they rank 16. I check their profiles, and they all have like 1k-2k hours play. So I'm playing against alot of toxic survs who try to derank and bully new killers. So the only good thing mmr does is fix the c***s who derank to bully.
@ItzLonie
@ItzLonie 3 жыл бұрын
@@OrphansCorpse seen that before it sucks. Now we just need the community to agree with this after all they complained about matchmaking before being matched with lower skilled players
@kermoots9261
@kermoots9261 3 жыл бұрын
Either they need to buff most killers to make them viable for high mmr or you are only gonna see spirit and nurse at those levels. The ideal situation would be to just not use mmr rating, because this test still proves that it doesn't work. Check Dowsey's channel for example, 2 hours to find a game as the twins and he got against a competitive squad and literally couldn't win.
@Clown_the_Clown
@Clown_the_Clown 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree, buffing most killers would be better
@thirsty4souls
@thirsty4souls 3 жыл бұрын
MMR isn't the problem, it's working as intended. The issue is inherent to the game "balance" and the new ranking system is showing that.
@Jilldo
@Jilldo 3 жыл бұрын
It's not a surprise dowsey took 2 hours to find a game... He had 895 kills and 1 escape with the twins. What's the point in him even playing against any less of a team; as his stats show- there is none! 1 escape from 895?! Also he had 0 chance on that game cuz as he said the guys he went up against were in his chat even so kitted themselves for a game against the twins. So he had even less chance to win! Unfortunately.... The top 1% of dbd are going to hate the MMR but for everyone else MMR isn't bad at all! It actually gives you a chance to learn, make some plays and actually have fun on both sides!
@niterush361
@niterush361 3 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@NotHypnoEmpire
@NotHypnoEmpire 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jilldo mmr gives you a chance to learn? What? Learning how to play the game isn't going to be easier or better because of mmr. Players at a lower skill bracket will barely be affected. Making the game a living hell for players just because they are good is unacceptable. Content creators will struggle and if content creators struggle, people will observe how sweaty and unfun the game can be and won't want to play. Nobody benefits from this, not even the devs.
@santosb2838
@santosb2838 3 жыл бұрын
Man I would’ve been screwed lol at least they weren’t toxic that would’ve been even worse.
@backwardsko
@backwardsko 3 жыл бұрын
I am loving high mmr, shows the true legends for who they are
@Rio_VR
@Rio_VR 3 жыл бұрын
'I only care about hooks not kills'...mmr kicks in...people escape and true throws his toys out the pram
@TrU3Ta1ent
@TrU3Ta1ent 3 жыл бұрын
The whole sentence has no connection to itself. I have also talked about the imbalances and how its impossible to hook top % players. So I have no idea what you are even taking about. It seems you live in your own little world.
@Kramilin
@Kramilin 3 жыл бұрын
On the day of the MMR I faced the same 4 man SWF in that single day. All had DS/Unbreakable and brought a Farm map both games. This is exactly what high MMR is gonna look like. 1 match I only got 2 hooks before all gens popped.. I main Oni btw which was my high MMR.
@axelsilvajr
@axelsilvajr 3 жыл бұрын
I must get top % a decent amount of times cuz i be playing people like this on the regular
@harrywicks2449
@harrywicks2449 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, good for you man. Thanks
@axelsilvajr
@axelsilvajr 3 жыл бұрын
@@harrywicks2449 no its not good for me cuz its unfun 😂
@bigmumjeff
@bigmumjeff 3 жыл бұрын
Or maybe true throws around TOP % as a coping mechanism for losing or struggling to win.
@axelsilvajr
@axelsilvajr 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigmumjeff or maybe he is playing top % survivors and top % doesnt mean like top 1% can be like top 10% or 15. These guys did play well, and yes true made mistakes, but those couple mistakes shouldnt have cost him the game
@kingkenan4498
@kingkenan4498 3 жыл бұрын
@@axelsilvajr I feel like ppl forget that some killers don't have a good chance of winning. If you do a couple mistakes against decent Survivors with Doctor, you'll lose and that's fine. If this wouldn't be the case then it wouldn't be possible to beat a decent spirit/nurse.
@entitledartist5283
@entitledartist5283 3 жыл бұрын
That's what the game is gonna be be for high mmr, if you don't play both nurse or you're expecting draw at least if not a 4man escape which is boring for both sides .
@ItzLonie
@ItzLonie 3 жыл бұрын
people wanted this tho complaining about rank always broken being qued with low rank survivors right? Heard that a billion of times
@Arbok-fy7om
@Arbok-fy7om 3 жыл бұрын
I had a hard game last night with 4 swf who bodyblock the hooks every single time,but that give me an advantage aswell bcs they dont repair the last 2 gens so i win but was a sweaty fck game
@floofzykitty5072
@floofzykitty5072 3 жыл бұрын
It is really dumb how poorly Doctor's power works. Unfortunately as soon as they get the prompt and hit the key your power will not stop them. You know how items disappear from a survivor's hand as they go to do an animation? That is the moment where shocking them will no longer stop the action because they are vacuuming to the object, even though you clearly can get them before they even touch it.
@dark0al097
@dark0al097 3 жыл бұрын
Doctor's shock is generally so poorly designed. Unless the survs are potatoes you're better off just playing M1 with no power, the risk to reward ratio is far too bad because of that slowdown.
@anarkerry8621
@anarkerry8621 3 жыл бұрын
MMR will NEVER work for DBD. Far too many variables. Add ons, perks, items, maps, tiles variations, hatch, swf...
@ItzLonie
@ItzLonie 3 жыл бұрын
Yet the community wanted it complaining that theyre matched with lowers ranks
@anarkerry8621
@anarkerry8621 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItzLonie the emblem and rank system doesn't work either.
@humanarian
@humanarian 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine a Killer having a Perk that would work *only* on the first hooked Survivor, *only* one time and made their first hook into their second one immediatelly. Survivor mains would go *NUTS* about it. Yet, somehow it's okay for them to have a Brand New Part addon.
@Argedis
@Argedis 3 жыл бұрын
The old Mori offerings was the only thing that worked to expedite the killer objective, but of course that got nerfed and made completely useless.
@xcurrentbreeze6626
@xcurrentbreeze6626 3 жыл бұрын
New ranking system, same shit overall for me. I got more spirits as survivor than usual, but overall against all killers, my teams would still go down very fast, kill themselves on hook, etc. And my killer games were against good solos and SWFs. So nothings changed, just going against more sweaty survivors than before.
@IamProvocateur
@IamProvocateur 3 жыл бұрын
Damn I’ve never bothered that that ranged zap add on bc I thought it would suck!
@fabiosolinas4373
@fabiosolinas4373 3 жыл бұрын
Really don't know if it's worth saying this, but i'll try. For the first time i actually tried to read the comments and is very sad to see how many of them are just a copy-paste of the same structure over and over and over again. It seems like most comments are just complains about his "complains", from people who don't seems to realize he can get pissed off by the game, as anyone does about something really. So for instance i really really hate when i play dbd and the killer tunnels me, in the sense that as soon as i get saved he immediately starts chasing me again and doesn't care about the other survivors (seems like i need to specify what i consider tunneling), but that doesn't prevent me to still like the game and still play, and maybe after 1 or two minutes i forget about what happened and it's all good. What most of people in this comment section seems to think, is that this doesn't also apply to Tru3: he gets pissed off by something he can't do anything about (maybe just irritated in general, anyone is free to feel how he/she wants), but that doesn't mean that's his personality or some bullshit like that, wtf? do you even realize what are you talking about? I'd say you need to have a huge ego to judge a person, or think you understand everything about them or just that you understand more about them the what they do, just on something like a stream or a yt video. Also, again, if you complain about someone complaining or such, you are in the same level of them in that matter. The last thing i would like to say is that i just started playing the game again after my first few hours i did 2 years ago and i'm really improving a lot from both prospective just by watching his videos and listening to what he says, i find it very helpful to have someone that analyzes what happens in a game play by play or just points out thing that are very important. So the thing you consider complains in most cases are very important for me and i guess many others that are still learning. At this point you can't really say he is not a very good player regardless of what you think about his commentary, so if you don't like him, go what something else, lol.
@fabiosolinas4373
@fabiosolinas4373 3 жыл бұрын
@Hot Wolf I think i remember those videos, but i'm not trying to say this is his first time complaining. I'm just saying that if he had a bad game and he feels maybe irritated by something, in this case the feeling of being unable to do anything to win because of the unbalance of the game, you shouldn't act as if he was complaining all game every game and that's all his content. Obviously when he says "If you verse me PLEASE don't choose an easy map for you", you can see that he is irritated and he doesn't like the fact that, not only he is in an unbalance position, but they make it even more difficult by choosing the map. And i'd say in that position, knowing that everything is going to be like that all day, is kinda normal to complain about the map. I'm not saying that the only thing he said, but that the example of a real complain. If he just says something like "Now those two gens are going to be done", "Dead hard? Yep, obviously your're high mmr so you use that super strong perk" and things like that, he is not complaining, he is thinking out loud and pointing out things that make people realize how well he understands the situation, but still can't do nothing about it.
@fabiosolinas4373
@fabiosolinas4373 3 жыл бұрын
@Hot Wolf If you want to you can read it. I'm open to hear the thoughts of someone that maybe doesn't think the same i do. To me it's just a conversation on the internet and so should be for you. If you don't feel like it you can just leave it as it is.
@fabiosolinas4373
@fabiosolinas4373 3 жыл бұрын
@Hot Wolf Oh, okay, I got your point. I still think that if he gets irritated or mad, he shouldn't be attacked by so many people in the comments. There are people with competitive mindsets, and i think there shouldn't be any hates for them just because they like winning and, when they don't, sometimes they'll express the frustration of not neing able to do anything about it in a game like this. As i said before, even if he looks mad, i think he forgets about it a bit later, maybe even while playing the game. So i just feel like it's a bit too egocentric to think that we can tell him the way he should act or what he can or can't get upset about. We don't know him personaly so we aren't able to tell something about his personality, at least not something that can diverge from what he says or what is clearly visible from the content he makes. Right?
@Jamie-tq2ur
@Jamie-tq2ur 3 жыл бұрын
Who else really really hated the matchmaking event? I was rank 12/11 going up against rank 1s and 2s every game 🙄
@catzillaohmygod1022
@catzillaohmygod1022 3 жыл бұрын
Lol you’re like the king of excuses. “They picked this map because they’re not confident in their abilities”, lol oh my god.
@St34khouse
@St34khouse 3 жыл бұрын
yeah you can tell people are catching onto it when you don't even get downvoted for saying it out loud on his own channel lol the reason I almost never watch true, all he does is complain
@suneelkumar555
@suneelkumar555 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@venrouge
@venrouge 3 жыл бұрын
More like this is just a normal day playing dbd, mmr will never work on this game, compare it to other games that are actually competitive, there’s a big difference.
@jamesbronz
@jamesbronz 3 жыл бұрын
They were BEASTS! LOL Good game.
@updatedotexe
@updatedotexe 3 жыл бұрын
Survivor is so much easier than Killer especially on SWF but you call them "BEASTS". You surely dont understand the game.
@cyborgsupermanx6509
@cyborgsupermanx6509 3 жыл бұрын
@@updatedotexe tru3 himself even said they were good lol
@jamesbronz
@jamesbronz 3 жыл бұрын
@@cyborgsupermanx6509 Exactly. lol
@noahdorn3080
@noahdorn3080 3 жыл бұрын
I was stressing and I wasn’t even playing😭
@veameal9725
@veameal9725 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoying the vid but the excuses wears thin. You had 10mins of ruin, it was a good team. Good killer. A good game. The mid-game complaints are the only negatives with your content.
@Imrathan
@Imrathan 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same kind of games....I actually got annoyed because it felt like every single game was high MMR lol
@justchickenstrips
@justchickenstrips 3 жыл бұрын
You weren't robbed the of the first hook they had tenacity. Also some players pic maps for aesthetic and to change things up. It's not always calculated. Take the L.
@Clown_the_Clown
@Clown_the_Clown 3 жыл бұрын
You're making excuses
@mr.obvious9246
@mr.obvious9246 3 жыл бұрын
You sure he’s the one taking the L?
@lyndetuvasa
@lyndetuvasa 3 жыл бұрын
@@Clown_the_Clown to be fair he did have tenacity and he wasn’t sound bugged on the ground. And map offerings are a part of the game. They wanted an easier map.
@justchickenstrips
@justchickenstrips 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.obvious9246 In the match? ya. He was complaining over the idea survivors could be better than him lol
@helix19667
@helix19667 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and killers bring in ebony moris because they're aesthetic. If you're gonna bring something into the match that tips the game into your favor, don't try, and make up excuses that you don't even believe yourself.
@federicogenova4064
@federicogenova4064 3 жыл бұрын
Yesterday, my 5th game as clown (i used it before, but on ps4, now i moved on pc) was against a 4 man SWF (all red ranks, I'm rank 8). They destroyed me (yea I'm a noob on pc, and they were hella sweaty). This isn't fun anymore, i can only play at night bc of work and college, and always get sweaty teams. I don't want to compete, life is already a competition ffs, i just wanna escape real world for few hours. I really like this game, I also spent much money and time on it. But now I feel like leaving, and honestly this is sad.
@jordantate_
@jordantate_ 3 жыл бұрын
I’m confused, did they turn MMR off?
@Butiguessilovememore
@Butiguessilovememore 3 жыл бұрын
Bloodeh shocks
@Noahlovslife2221
@Noahlovslife2221 3 жыл бұрын
I understand that maps can be annoying for both sides but I just don’t get why it’s ok for a killer to pick a killer sided map with a build built for that map, but when a survivor does it it’s not acceptable. And now it’s not fair because one perk is rendered useless from a hex totem getting cleansed. But when a killer brings strider, and iron will is canceled out it’s not a problem. This is why I sympathize more with survivors.
@NotHypnoEmpire
@NotHypnoEmpire 3 жыл бұрын
And what map is killer sided? Genuinely curious. Edit: and imagine complaining about STRIDOR
@mosclone2121
@mosclone2121 3 жыл бұрын
Stridor doesn't cancel out Iron Will, they cancel each other out; A Killer who's running Stridor, whilst being able to hear the Iron Will guy, will think he's further away than he is, because he's quieter than the Survivors without it. It's just tug of war over hearing distance numbers. Meanwhile, when a Hex gets cleansed, that's it, it's actually gone. No more use, nothing. It's now an empty perk slot. As far as the map thing: Since the re-release of the Gideon Pallet-Packing Plant, there's only really one map that anyone would call Killer-sided, and that's Hawkins. But Hawkins, due to it being in a building and having short lines of sight, is only good for Killer builds that are based off of aura-reading and sometimes stealth (i.e. Scratched-Mirror Myers, Bloody-Glove Oni, Amanda's-Letter Pig), which all give up basically their whole power for those auras and become M1 Killers that are just as weak in chase on that map as any other.
@Andy-jw9ke
@Andy-jw9ke 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotHypnoEmpire hawkins, glenvale, sheltered woods, crotus pen asylum(clown map variation) , midwitch(terrible for both sides) lerys( some strong loops but the fact you can't find gens half the time and the maps hard to memorize gives the killer an advantage. Most indoor maps are killer sided besides reworked game. There's one autohaven variant that's easy to set up for a 3 gen as killer but I forgot the name of it.
@suneelkumar555
@suneelkumar555 3 жыл бұрын
@@Andy-jw9ke crotus is killer sided? I don't agree
@Andy-jw9ke
@Andy-jw9ke 3 жыл бұрын
@@suneelkumar555 father cambells chapel is, not extremely killer sided but more favored towards it. The other one disturbed ward is most definitely not.
@starttakinnotez
@starttakinnotez 3 жыл бұрын
Tru3 wtf is going on it seems like you're actually having fun!? 🤯🤯🤯🤯
@ashonline77
@ashonline77 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love it if he would also stop trying to explain or make excuses as to why the match isn't going in his favour and just have fun.
@maradonapele7258
@maradonapele7258 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashonline77 because it's annoying when you're playing good and you're still losing because of how unfair the game can be in some situations
@ashonline77
@ashonline77 3 жыл бұрын
@@maradonapele7258 yeah I do understand why he does it but it gets a bit tiring after a while. Besides, he made mistakes there as well, it's not like everything he did was perfect. But that's okay. It's only kinda cringe when whenever he makes a mistake, he talks about why the game is unfair. Whether that's intentional or not, it's kinda cringe to watch.
@IllTacca
@IllTacca 3 жыл бұрын
addressing the mmr is a misleading i think. The real problem is that the game is unbalanced at high levels not that the high level players have matches with other high level players. I know that leave the mmr as it is now is the easiest thing to do. If you don't you have to mess with gen speed, unbalanced maps, killers who work at high levels (just spirit and nurse) and who don't. But they should cause there's no other solution. If they keep the actual mmr top killers as tru3 will always win quite easily (i don't remember he loses a game for a while), if they use the new mmr system top killers are forced to use always spirit or nurse to have a chance to win. I tell you what: devs must start to listen to suggestions that people as tru3 or scott jund give to balance the game and start to work for it. Otherwise we will always discuss on the same topics (mmr, swf, solo queue, gen speed, etc)
@suneelkumar555
@suneelkumar555 3 жыл бұрын
True lost quentin, but he was screaming, still u cant find?😂
@freedoobies5757
@freedoobies5757 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard from multiple streamers (hexy especially) that EU servers are the easiest survivors in Dbd, I wouldve thought it would be NA
@slyslasher1957
@slyslasher1957 3 жыл бұрын
EU is actually sweaty af lmao
@asura9701
@asura9701 3 жыл бұрын
@@slyslasher1957 oh then you haven't been in Asian servers then, or you will know what sweat is xD
@slyslasher1957
@slyslasher1957 3 жыл бұрын
@@asura9701 i play on ps4 and im from EU if i play with crossplay off all i get is SWF with OoO and farm map offerings
@KN-592
@KN-592 3 жыл бұрын
It's so depressingly skill-less to play survivor in DBD
@1z487
@1z487 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 4 man swf switch to 4 flashlights when there was 6 seconds left on the timer so I couldn't have time to use Franklins or Lightborn, they also used a Farm map offering so I left the loading screen, they messaged me saying 'imagine dcing haha noob" then they kept saying killers are already op you're playing Oni who can instadown killers have it easy, I don't argue with stupid so I laughed and blocked them haha
@DingosDancin
@DingosDancin 3 жыл бұрын
@@1z487 “imagine switching to 4 flashlights to bully another player” would have been my response. But yeah I agree with not arguing with people like that.
@koopa6_412
@koopa6_412 3 жыл бұрын
If an average swf goes against an average killer they’re going to win almost 99% imo especially if they bring meta perks but for the survivors that are solo queue and are still good I respect them a hell of a lot more than swfs because it’s just so easy
@1z487
@1z487 3 жыл бұрын
@@FailToilet Learn the difference from wanting a "easy" lobby to a "toxic" one or it will just make you look stupid
@soIzec
@soIzec 3 жыл бұрын
@@1z487 ^ this
@ognjenmaslo3333
@ognjenmaslo3333 3 жыл бұрын
Wait is tru in Europe or USA
@msg-4084
@msg-4084 3 жыл бұрын
Europe
@Spycrab699
@Spycrab699 3 жыл бұрын
He lives in the uk
@ognjenmaslo3333
@ognjenmaslo3333 3 жыл бұрын
Shit i thought he wasn't, no wonder he is having a hard time, Europe is just higher tier
@iamZooom
@iamZooom 3 жыл бұрын
@@Spycrab699 he's from the UK but he doesn't live here anymore. I think he lives in Denmark with his GF now
@leaha2357
@leaha2357 3 жыл бұрын
It feels kinda sad that, with the best build for doctor and making zero mistakes, I dont think you could have ever won that game, maybe you could have with slugging at the start, but they seemed organised and good enough that I dont think you could have slugged them all, they would just pick each other up
@juniormii
@juniormii 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, I play 100% solo queue and sometimes the other survivors just know what they are doing and the killer doesn't stand a chance, but like 95% of solo queue games the other survivors are the worst I've ever seen.
@freedoobies5757
@freedoobies5757 3 жыл бұрын
Your joking right? 0 mistakes? This is why so many killers think the game is unfair, true only has 1 hook while 3 gens are popped, he swings too early letting ace reset his chase and dead hard to a safe pallet? True played well he didn’t play perfect by any means necessary
@leaha2357
@leaha2357 3 жыл бұрын
@@freedoobies5757 I dont know what you are getting at I think you may have mis understood what I was getting at as I wasnt saying he made no mistakes, just that those good players in a game where you made 0 mistakes, still wouldnt have been winnable
@leaha2357
@leaha2357 3 жыл бұрын
@@juniormii I will never understand the matchmaking system as when ever I play survivor on solo its mostly potatoes who urban evade around the ma, dont do gens and run away at the slight sound of a terror radius, but I play killer and its only good players who never let me have a chill game with some good chases, forget winning. I have mostly given up with killer and solo queue
@juniormii
@juniormii 3 жыл бұрын
@@leaha2357 that's exactly how it is for me, I stopped playing killer a while ago, and just stick to survivor, but the solo q just sucks, I just stopped playing haven't played since twins, but.i might get.on for a bit for trickster, I really like his aesthetic, but hes so weak, I wanted to main him =/
@harryklobs1220
@harryklobs1220 3 жыл бұрын
I had yesterday 5 games i won 4 ( 4k) and lost 1 (1k) i played 2x twins and 3x spirit. Lost with twins. But it was always sweaty teams Its just unfun to slug and tunnel for win Its unfun for killer and survivor.
@ciruk2774
@ciruk2774 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when Tru3 was new to this game, had like 2k subscribers, and played The Culling on the side. Every video wasn't just him complaining, and bitching, and bleating about DbD's mechanics and the state of the game, he just had fun. Because he wasn't as good, he didn't have a bar set up, no expectations, he just played. Now my homie feels as though he's being tortured playing this shit.
@test-id6cz
@test-id6cz 3 жыл бұрын
He did not play his best in this video either. This game will never be balanced so why bother making excuses and talk about survivor advantage
@thirsty4souls
@thirsty4souls 3 жыл бұрын
@@test-id6cz Because he and many others actually care about the game and want it to be better than this unbalanced mess.
@Jilldo
@Jilldo 3 жыл бұрын
You can't fully balance a game that is an ASYMMETRICAL horror. It's in the name...
@thirsty4souls
@thirsty4souls 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jilldo Asymmetrical ≠ unbalanced
@helix19667
@helix19667 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jilldo Yes, but the devs could still try to balance as much as possible. The issue here is an incompetent balance team, which refuses to accept feedback from the community. Which is why it took them 4 years to remove infinite loops, only for them to bring them back a few months later.
@derbyboon
@derbyboon 3 жыл бұрын
Quite a tough game for doctor ya
@dend6064
@dend6064 3 жыл бұрын
Like scouts says high level DBD is boarding
@1Sparda1_
@1Sparda1_ 2 жыл бұрын
God. Playing killer is too stressful
@DubbZ471
@DubbZ471 3 жыл бұрын
Dead By Daylight is not balanced at high level period!!!
@reelgesh51
@reelgesh51 3 жыл бұрын
tbf nor is any game - especially one that wasn't designed to be competitive from the ground up
@Leonardo.ohime.i
@Leonardo.ohime.i 3 жыл бұрын
Most killers are just not enough strong to afford those teams
@eleazarmedina5706
@eleazarmedina5706 3 жыл бұрын
In all fairness they probably had 3 bad maps back to back and they just got sick of it that's why they brought a map offering.
@bigmumjeff
@bigmumjeff 3 жыл бұрын
Nah bro it's because they lack confidence and they had to bring it.
@eleazarmedina5706
@eleazarmedina5706 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigmumjeff they lack confidence even though true said they were good survivors... okay bud.
@bigmumjeff
@bigmumjeff 3 жыл бұрын
@@eleazarmedina5706 he literally says that in the same video. You either didnt watch the video or don't get sarcasm I guess. Copium
@charlesk2769
@charlesk2769 3 жыл бұрын
okay someone explain this to me. Am I a "bad person" for playing really good and being labeled sweaty? Like i don't get it. There is soo much negativity towards sweaty survivors or killers that being a good survivor or killer will get you labeled as sweaty when you're just good and I don't get it. Am i not supposed to play to the best of my abilities and have fun with it? I must be missing something...I'm legitimately curious...The game will be more difficult so this just makes you try harder as a killer or survivor. Or not try at all and dc. Yes they brought a brand new part but also you just didn't catch them fast enough because the survivor is good or the killer. So yea I'm just saying what's on my mind and if someone wants to rebuttal, pls do cuz this is fun:) There are balancing issues though. I do understand that part. The rest....ehhhh
@freedoobies5757
@freedoobies5757 3 жыл бұрын
Dude if you get a 4k as killer 90% of survivors are gonna tell you your trash and to get better, if all 4 of them escape your trash and a baby killer, don’t worry about the other sides opinion of you, as killer it’s your job to kill people not hold the survivors hands and make sure they get a gold star and have a good time, if any thing it’s your job to make sure the survivors don’t have fun right? So as survivors it’s obviously your job to do gens and escape as quick as possible, as survivors if you gen rush then your a sweaty team but if you 99 the last 3 gens and Max your boldness your a bully, the other side is never gonna be happy that you won, the only situation I think is completely bogus is when your destroying a good SWF kill 1-2 of them and as soon as they can survivors just escape thru hatch, it’s worked in my favor and worked against me, hatch and key Is a completely broken mechanic so that even after survivors have completely failed their first objective they still have a redeeming chance to win, I’ve heard people call it a lose win mechanic they have in many party games so both sides can feel like they won when in reality it makes killer feel like a waste of time and the escape doesn’t feel authentic
@KingDing0Ling
@KingDing0Ling 3 жыл бұрын
What is mmr?
@ignjatluzajic4191
@ignjatluzajic4191 3 жыл бұрын
that's why i stopped playing killer. Every game rank 1 2 swfs who sweat
@ignjatluzajic4191
@ignjatluzajic4191 3 жыл бұрын
@Krioque bruh they are all trash but they bring map offerings use brand new parts as 4 man and then say ez in lobby. Wtf did dbd become? every game i go against that
3 жыл бұрын
I think MMR is bad
@jamesgarter9340
@jamesgarter9340 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody does
@desolatorstorm142
@desolatorstorm142 3 жыл бұрын
The MMR isn't bad. It just highlights the flaws of the game instead of burying them inside of random lobbies.
@jamesgarter9340
@jamesgarter9340 3 жыл бұрын
@@desolatorstorm142 mmmmm ok
@Jacob-fe1we
@Jacob-fe1we 3 жыл бұрын
@@desolatorstorm142 Perfectly said.
@bugout3821
@bugout3821 3 жыл бұрын
why u blaming the map for u losing its so cringe
@davidodonohoe1773
@davidodonohoe1773 3 жыл бұрын
Cant look at streamers and pro players when talking about the welfare of the game. They are a category all onto themselves and are such a small portion of the player base as to be statistically insignificant. For the regular people I think killers should each have their own rank system. Being rank 1 with Freddy will not help you as Billy or clown starting off. Not to the extent that you should get the same survivors for both killers. Makes no sense. Unfortunately as long as SBMM is in gaming protecting newer players it will punish those that practice and get above average good at the game. And really punish those like True
@CarboniteFrozen
@CarboniteFrozen 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting comment section. Tru3 lovers and haters going at it lol
@fallansaint
@fallansaint 3 жыл бұрын
Coulrophobia, whispers, zashin, ruin. Best doc build imo.
@mosclone2121
@mosclone2121 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know about Zanshin, I think I'd rather have something with more utility like Nurse's or even Pop for when Ruin most likely gets broken in a minute or two.
@suneelkumar555
@suneelkumar555 3 жыл бұрын
Coulrophobia😂
@updatedotexe
@updatedotexe 3 жыл бұрын
I like Tru3.
@SoloLikeHan
@SoloLikeHan 3 жыл бұрын
I dont thing he is a sniper Dog
@drs4983
@drs4983 3 жыл бұрын
But are you at the top MMR, we don't know cause secret
@Monstertarget
@Monstertarget 3 жыл бұрын
he definitely isn't, he is mediocre at best
@TrU3Ta1ent
@TrU3Ta1ent 3 жыл бұрын
From the caliber I was against and played with I would say yes I am. Unless ema are low mmr somehow
@updatedotexe
@updatedotexe 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrU3Ta1ent What is "ema"?
@thehistorians5231
@thehistorians5231 3 жыл бұрын
@@updatedotexe a tournament survivor team probably some of the best players in the world team "ema"
@mechamobibo
@mechamobibo 3 жыл бұрын
These were definitely good survivors on the 1v1, but that makes them kinda predictable and this map isn't reliable on that much skill on the tiles, they're mostly safe, you could try to brute force and make it more empty. Overall, I don't feel like this is peak of survivor performance/MMR. These gens could've been way faster.
@jamesgarter9340
@jamesgarter9340 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine bringing a bad design map for yourself
@mechamobibo
@mechamobibo 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgarter9340 I don't fully get what you're saying. But I hate this map as killer. It's probably my most hated open map. There are 3 god structures with multiple infinites. Other than that the pallets are mostly safe and can be dealt with fast
@jamesgarter9340
@jamesgarter9340 3 жыл бұрын
@@mechamobibo yeah and pallets every where crazy that survivors abuse bad maps like that
@jamesgarter9340
@jamesgarter9340 3 жыл бұрын
@Hot Wolf whatever everybody knows that map is bad design no need to defend it
@jamesgarter9340
@jamesgarter9340 3 жыл бұрын
@Hot Wolf whatever entitled survivor main
@Jose-es9xy
@Jose-es9xy 3 жыл бұрын
MMR ?
@bbv2262
@bbv2262 3 жыл бұрын
wittle bitty baby Doc
@Zjivarra
@Zjivarra 3 жыл бұрын
This makes me never want to invest time into learning killer :-/ Really didn’t look like fun at all.
@milestone95gaming14
@milestone95gaming14 3 жыл бұрын
From the Twitter I rise
@affebanane3039
@affebanane3039 3 жыл бұрын
Mmr?
@suneelkumar555
@suneelkumar555 3 жыл бұрын
Bro what happened to u today, y r u shocking them again and again, u don't have crazy doctor build
@mistersnuggles2546
@mistersnuggles2546 3 жыл бұрын
Only crying wtf. It's boring to watch someone only crying about how unfair x and y is. I mean yeah, the game is unfair. You did the best you could.
@taatham8058
@taatham8058 3 жыл бұрын
This is how DBD should always be, high MMR at red ranks only! Sick of playing with awful PC & console players drives me insane I want the top players only considering the amount of hours I’ve put into this game.
@suneelkumar555
@suneelkumar555 3 жыл бұрын
U played so bad on this match
@iamZooom
@iamZooom 3 жыл бұрын
Still enjoy watching it but so glad I stopped playing this unbalanced trash a few weeks ago.
@iamZooom
@iamZooom 3 жыл бұрын
@Hot Wolf not denying he didn't make mistakes. "it's not unbalanced" now say that with a straight face lmao
@SkiarpGamer
@SkiarpGamer 3 жыл бұрын
twitter notification team
@sirsaxon7786
@sirsaxon7786 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like the no face cam thing
@outlawme9664
@outlawme9664 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are too dark
@slade833
@slade833 Жыл бұрын
Always the aces that are so good
@JoeChief_
@JoeChief_ 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus I've never heard you this salty before 👀😅 "the survivor's are sweaty", "the soundboard is out", "how are they still vaulting when I shocked them", "i find it humerus that they picked this map" 👀👀
@jokayy8853
@jokayy8853 3 жыл бұрын
This isn’t even being salty lmao. I’m conviced most people don’t know what salty even is.
@thirsty4souls
@thirsty4souls 3 жыл бұрын
@@jokayy8853 "he's pointing out something's wrong with the current state of the game instead of just being complacent, therefore he must be salty and complaining... git gud can't win all, take the L" 🤡
@niterush361
@niterush361 3 жыл бұрын
Do you even know what salty is? Lol He's literally just explaining how the MMR is and what not. Pretty sure he didn't really care about the map, because obviously it's not necessarily easy for killer. Even i find it humerus.
@saintpablo427
@saintpablo427 3 жыл бұрын
True nut riders will never admit when he’s wrong. I’ve been watching True for 5-6 years now and he was definitely salty. Complaining about the map all game lmao
@saintpablo427
@saintpablo427 3 жыл бұрын
@Hot Wolf the survivors weren’t even toxic they just made good plays. He can use unlimited tier 3 Myers with wall hacks or Huntress with one shot hatchets but god forbid survivors use a favorable map.....😭
@suneelkumar555
@suneelkumar555 3 жыл бұрын
If u would have bw, u would have got 3k
@mrcampy412
@mrcampy412 3 жыл бұрын
I come from Twitter
@Thaznar
@Thaznar 3 жыл бұрын
These survivors are just doing gens and using what the game gives them. Mmr will show hopefully most killers are bad. Sad part is some content creators are already shitting on this new mmr system. So incredibly sad.
@Carsten67
@Carsten67 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that the game isnt balanced
@HercuKong
@HercuKong 3 жыл бұрын
Bad killers get rewarded all of the time and end up rank 1, because they are often against solo queue survivors, which lacks communication/coordination. Now that these killer mains are given a real challenge, all of a sudden they're complaining they have to try hard? They must know nothing of the horrors of survivor solo queue. THAT is true difficulty and suffering.
@Thaznar
@Thaznar 3 жыл бұрын
@@Carsten67 Exactly.
@Blopusanian
@Blopusanian 3 жыл бұрын
@@HercuKong Literally stfu I see you people everywhere. Killer and solo queue are both shit don’t act like solo queue is some next level of difficulty.
@HercuKong
@HercuKong 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blopusanian Killer only has to worry about themselves. Solo queue you're often missing up to 2 legs and an arm, especially if they are terrible or just plain sabotaging you. They are completely different monsters. Not only that, but without comms you're at a severe disadvantage if the killer is sweating. These are all facts.
@couldntcareless_
@couldntcareless_ 3 жыл бұрын
The doctor is so bad anyways...
@MagicNash89
@MagicNash89 3 жыл бұрын
SNIPER
@frank8368
@frank8368 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@friendlyghost6607
@friendlyghost6607 3 жыл бұрын
Game is killer sided btw 👀😂
@friendlyghost6607
@friendlyghost6607 3 жыл бұрын
@Hot Wolf no, it's not. And stop pretending like it is. Unfortunately the devs only listen to survivor mains, and guess what, genius. Soon the game will die because of it. Is that what y'all want ?
@friendlyghost6607
@friendlyghost6607 3 жыл бұрын
@Hot Wolf because they are weak survivors, or because Tru3 was using one of the better killers. What happens if you go against optimal swf groups who knows how to exploit loops properly and how to fix gens fast? You get wrecked.
@friendlyghost6607
@friendlyghost6607 3 жыл бұрын
@Hot Wolf for that " flat earth " statement I gotta say you're stupid. Peace
@suneelkumar555
@suneelkumar555 3 жыл бұрын
U were wasting so much time shocking when they were not even in a loop, y u were doing this u don't have unnerving presence or lullaby
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