What Trump's election victory could mean for Ukraine in its war with Russia

[@craww1990]

Maybe its better if we stop depending on America and work on ourselves.

[@OEightHours]

I think that Europe is going to increase military spending, there's already increased training for Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.

[@Orbital_Inclination]

Out of a sad necessity, because a world where the overwhelming military might of the US cannot be relied on is a far more dangerous world.

[@tomhenry897]

Not in the rest of Europe

[@frankrenda2519]

they will increase nothing the eu is broke

[@PencilProper]

@@Orbital_Inclination Nor should they? There are rules within NATO and minimum military spending obligations as a % of GDP and many countries are not/weren't meeting those obligations.

[@garagenigel]

​@@PencilProper that percentage of spending isn't mandatory and as for the yanks they spend very little in Europe! Their huge military spending has very little to do with NATO!... Ukraine funding comes from different US budgets and I should imagine any cash given to them is in the form of loans!

[@captainbuggernut9565]

We need to step up the support. Europe and the UK can afford to do this. Just ignore Trump.

[@ht-ve9fe]

Trump is right, European countries are consistently failing to meet their NATO defence spending budget. NATO is meant to be mutually beneficial not American protection.

[@Orbital_Inclination]

​@@ht-ve9feNATO is already mutually beneficial. The US spends a lot more, but also gets a hell of a lot of access to basing around Europe that it otherwise wouldn't get.

[@ht-ve9fe]

@@Orbital_Inclination yes that's true, but they're also roped into intervening with wars that may not be in their best interests. A lot of Americans would prefer to see investment and development in their own country than overseas, irrespective of whether it cements America's position as a superpower around the globe. The point I am making is that the US are paying their dues to NATO whilst European countries, who can afford it, are evading the cost. That is not the point of the agreement, and is a prime factor in the dismay stirring in the USA over NATO membership.

[@AverageWagie2024]

Can we stop being freeloaders? Can we actually have an army again instead of a defence militia?

[@Orbital_Inclination]

We can if we don't want other things like an NHS

[@AirplaneDoctor_]

​@@Orbital_Inclinationor....we can stop wasting money on people who don't want to work and those who enter the country by crossing the channel in small boats...

[@biscuitcrusader]

a defence militia? the british army is still the best trained in the world, the only issue right now is equipment

[@Optikification]

@@Orbital_Inclination The NHS as already failed so the UK need to look at how we do it in Europe.

[@Orlandojusticenomaga]

@@AirplaneDoctor_ then stop France for directing people migrants to the channel and stop France from stealing wealth from former French colonies and you stop half the problems.

[@Rampagedd]

Peace

[@JohnK004]

No, it's just getting started, Ukraine is only getting started.

[@Rampagedd]

@JohnK004 the war mongering globalists want it yes. But Trump doesn't.

[@Rampagedd]

@JohnK004 they deleted my reply.

[@StrikeBuster-b2b]

What's the end game? Just keep sending money and weapons while Joe Biden says you better not attack Russia? 😭😭😭 Trump 😭😭😭

[@zinjanthropus322]

The Ukraine war IS about real estate.

[@jr7rjrudiek]

😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 urraaaaaa Russia and urrraaa President Trump

[@gregme5601]

Don’t worry, EU will step in and cover down what’s needed. Apparently they will suffer if Putin isn’t stopped. Right? EU is composed of many wealthy nations.

[@frankrenda2519]

the eu is a joke if they dont apologize and make new energy deals with Russia their economies will keep going down like they have in the last 2 years

[@catmutterer]

Ukraine’s cash cow just ran dry! 🥳🎉🎊

[@Orbital_Inclination]

Celebrating unchecked Russian aggression?

[@asmith2886]

Yesterday the world as we know it changed. Ukraine is just one example of where this evil man will stamp his narcissistic authority. My heart goes out for the Ukrainians.

[@AirplaneDoctor_]

Dry your tears, it's called democracy.

[@Orbital_Inclination]

​@@AirplaneDoctor_how, exactly? Trump literally incited an attempted coup, undermining democracy and emboldening fascists. He also went on a tour of his favourite global dictators and sucked up to their authoritarianism. How is that better?

[@theoscott5266]

This vid has a Black Sun National Socialist logo in. You really support them?

[@Orbital_Inclination]

​@@theoscott5266there are a minority of Nazis on both sides, so it's really a moot point

[@Retrosicotte]

@@AirplaneDoctor_ And by its definition, democracy can do very stupid things if the populace is moronic enough. It's the best system, but that doesn't mean it can't be led astray by idiocy, as the US just showed us.

[@ItzD3fW1sH]

They actually voted for a dude who’s closest aides last term called him a fascist 😂

[@jg2072]

Unfortunately yes. He is despicable.

[@meme4one]

Lol yeah he's terrible isn't he. What a horrible orange man. All those millions of voters much be stupid eh! Or is it just that his opponent was even worse!

[@garagenigel]

​@@meme4oneno they be stupid!.....

[@SUS_USU]

@@meme4one he's opponent is worse, she is so worse that even illegals immigrants voted for trump thats how bad she is.

[@SpikeyOfficial]

Thank god trump got elected again so our people/service men and women never had to loose a life.

[@Orbital_Inclination]

Ah yes, the person who spent his last time in office celebrating and fan-girling the dictators of the world is the one that's going to keep us all safe... obviously

[@SpikeyOfficial]

@Orbital_Inclination Google, Trump on Bill Clinton 2015. Obviously if you agree with Clinton, good luck having the FBI kick down your door

[@Orbital_Inclination]

​@@SpikeyOfficialyou realise the FBI don't have any jurisdiction in the UK, right?

[@SpikeyOfficial]

@@Orbital_Inclination You sure about that 👀😂.

[@meme4one]

​@@SpikeyOfficialthe US tells the UK what to do. Regularly.

[@operator9858]

Ukraine lost either way. Enough with the charade already.

[@frankrenda2519]

not yet the grift can keep going a little while longer

[@Retrosicotte]

1 ruble in your account

[@antique-bs8bb]

@@Retrosicotte 800k Ukrainian deaths on yours. You do know what shilling for a continued Ukrainian fight costs, don't you?

[@jerrymiller9039]

It could mean peace

[@ItzD3fW1sH]

On Russias terms? How kind

[@jerrymiller9039]

@ItzD3fW1sH no , why would you think that

[@Orbital_Inclination]

​@@jerrymiller9039because Trump's most likely course of action is to cut off supplies to Ukraine to force peace negotiations, effectively handing Russia exactly what they want

[@critterjon4061]

@@jerrymiller9039because that is what trump said

[@jerrymiller9039]

@@critterjon4061 no he did not say that. He did not say how to do it

[@Nainara32]

I'm disappointed in the USA's choice. I hope Europe is ready to step up and take full responsibility for defending Europe. Given that the combined economy of the EU is basically the same as that of the US, it's not a question of whether the EU member nations can aid Ukraine to victory, but whether they choose to.

[@trs4u]

The EU really needs to stop abusing the older brand, it's confusing everyone. Europe and the EU aren't the same thing. Some European non-EU-member countries have been aiding Ukraine, so I hear.

[@Optikification]

@@trs4u Name one and show facts.

[@meme4one]

What is Europe? A collective landmass? Ukraine has never given a damn about the rest of Europe and half of them are pro Russia anyway. This is not the UKs war. The days of us having money to poke our noses in to everyone else's business has long passed.

[@trs4u]

@@Optikification UK. "Show facts"? What do you mean, like a video of it happening? There's at least one channel on yt that uploads a video from time to time, claiming to be aiding Ukraine.

[@garagenigel]

​@@Optikificationunited kingdom! Kyiv would have fallen without the UK

[@jonathanwheeler4767]

So Europe The EU cant "step up " i thought the idea of the EU was = to the US

[@AndyDavisTechnicalDiving]

Europe has contributed far more in aid to Ukraine to date than the US has. Nonetheless, the cessation of US aid would be a serious shortfall to make up.

[@antique-bs8bb]

@@AndyDavisTechnicalDiving Europe has actually been on the other side of oneof the wars. Civil - W vs E Ukraine Military - Nato vs Russia Economic US vs Germany/EU/China - stopping Europe ever trading with Brics (think what NS2 was about). US has totally defeated Germany.

[@baileygregory9192]

​@AndyDavisTechnicalDiving that's a massive myth. Eu has given more financial aid but military wise it's been the US and the eu will strong to Match due to restocking their own arsenal's and their more limited stockpiles

[@antique-bs8bb]

@@baileygregory9192 Well the EU gave up cheap gas for expensive US imported LNG - so that was quite a gift. It has been economically totally Fxxxed by this war and denied the future opportunity to trade with Russia and Brics. US economically has done well. Militarily it doesn't matter much - neither Euro or US equipment works well except the simple shells of which neither have remotely near enough.

[@traceyking2584]

You can't expect the US or the UK to keep on bailing Ukraine out. War costs. Lives and money. We, as in Britain, have helped them enough. What was a local war has morphed into an international concern. I read about the battle of Kursk ages ago. We need to concentrate on the UK now. The Americans under Trump more than likely won't continue to back us.

[@Retrosicotte]

Given Ukraine needs that support or it falls, yes we do. This isn't a quid pro quo, it directly helps us and our own future. It'd cost a LOT more to have to maintain huge armies and constant defence lines.

[@garagenigel]

Keeping Russia contained in Ukraine is keeping OUR soldiers away from the fighting! If Ukraine loses then our soldiers WILL be fighting Russia!

[@Roar1987]

@@Retrosicotte Russia is not going to invade the UK. It does not help out future to fight Russia, it damages our future and long term prospects. The only people who benefit from continued hostile action towards Russia are the defence companies and their shareholders. The media aren't your friends. Politicians are not your friends. KZbin channels like this aren't your friend. Russia would be our friend if we had acted like the Cold War had ended with the collapse of the USSR instead of expanding NATO and treating them as if they were about to send T-72's into Paris and Berlin.

[@tomhenry897]

Means peace In a stalemate

[@frankrenda2519]

what stalemate russia owns 1/3 of ukraine

[@TheSovietWombat]

Excuse me BFBS news but at 2:04 there appears to be a big black sun national socialist symbol and you wonder why trump doesnt want to supply those guys munitions

[@joekws]

Right...so the Russians are totally denazififying Ukraine...sure...

[@BigMoebius]

Brah plenty of his supporters would openly tout that symbol if they could

[@Optikification]

Trump supports the proud boys so why not black sun national?

[@meme4one]

​@@Optikificationbecause one is pro US?

[@runna-x5h]

​@@BigMoebiusyall just openly want to keep funding them lol,do some more research on ukr and their history.

[@ronaldmarcks1842]

Thank God Trump was out of office for so long.

[@Roar1987]

Putin waited 1 whole year to invade Ukraine after Trump left office. Thank God for a weak and terrible US President, that really made the world a better place for us all.

[@richt-tb1sf]

NAFO bros... not like this

[@Achilles.channel]

I'm 15 and during the last years, 2024 especially I feared that my life will be ruined, or worse, by the actions taken by the governments. I always saw war as inevitable and necessary for human evolution, but watching a war, and the consequental lies & propaganda unfold in real time directly at my doorstep.. is unsettling. I hear them in the news talking about proving a point, about russia's faults and spread assumptions as facts. And I believed it at first, then I realize again it's sheer absolute brutality. Something they never talked about except for it being russia that commits. I don't want to die in this web of lies and hoaxs, uncertain what I may go to war and die for. Hell, I don't want to die at all for something so avoidable. May it be indirectly by a nuclear war or directly on the battlefield dying to a 50€ drone, starve, get shot or simply get blown up by a missile shot from a hundred kilometers away. Why don't they just deescalate as they should instead of doing what they'd already a hundred times. Rotting generations into hating each other cause of ethnicity and politics. Trump has to end the war, even if it is at ukraine's stake. I know that it is cold and unfair, but it's a fact that the death toll will only raise, all the emigration also departed a whole future generation away from ukraine, while a large portion of the current generation is being ruined by the war, or worse, eradicated.

[@DT-ww4gv]

It's over Johnny

[@Orlandojusticenomaga]

We are all in trouble and 5 I’s just became 4 after Trump is sworn in 😢

[@meme4one]

Where did you get that nugget of falsehood from?

[@Orlandojusticenomaga]

@ Trump filby can’t be trusted with matters of national security, why on earth would you share information which will end on Putin desk with hours of sharing with Trump.