What Umebura SP 10 and LMBM 2024 Has Proven About Smash Ultimate So Far...

In today's video I talk about Umebura SP 10 and Luminosity Makes Big Moves 2024, two Smash Ultimate super major events that happened on the same weekend. The events had players such as MKLeo, Sparg0, Tweek, Sonix, Glutonny, Light, Tilde, Miya, Acola, Cosmos, and more in attendance.
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[@Spyder-Marth]

Bro Skyjay inspired me to keep going. The fact that he made top 8 and took Sonix to game 5 is all I needed to see to get my momentum back up. I am taking a break from playing Smash this weekend since I am at my mom's, but goodness I already want to play the game again. It's gonna be fun grinding.

[@silvesta5027]

FUN LARRY QUOTE: “You would think with age comes wisdom but no, sometimes with age comes more stupidity” (collision 2023 stream)

[@KryZenGraphics]

As a note, Max and Joe arnt the main TO’s there the EO’s (event organizers) The main TOs for the event are Cagt and Aerodusk

[@ItBeHowItBe47]

Umebura 10 had 98k peak viewers, 42k average viewers, and 57k viewers in grands. LMBM had 57k peak viewers, 17k average viewers, and I can’t see grands because it wasn’t in the top 5 of sets. Source: escharts

[@ItBeHowItBe47]

And before someone comments “it was in japan” port priority 8 was 83k peak, 30k average.

[@shortesnameofalltime]

@@ItBeHowItBe47wait does Japan get more viewers?

[@capitanpastabase6342]

...because more japanese players were at port priority? ​@@ItBeHowItBe47

[@adithahsan752]

Lmbm was streamed on the luminosity twitch channel as opposed to vgbc. Probably a contributing factor.

[@ItBeHowItBe47]

@@shortesnameofalltimeusually

[@YGK-tu8cy]

thank you for putting the names of the music you use on screen. For a long time I just knew Kitsch as the Yeet Smash outro music 😭

[@Team-Eclipse6024]

I think Raarchyor is well positioned to lead the sora meta from now on. Not only is he a very talented player, but Europe lacks a properly top player of two of Sora's hardest match-ups: Fox and Diddy Kong. I could see him getting top 8 at a European major, especially if we have more than we did last year. Good luck to Kameme, even if he never competes he again he will be remembered as one of Japan's all time greats!

[@Psytastic_ssbu]

What about Kameme? He’s a more experienced player who’s leading the Sora meta rn Edit: I just remembered that Kameme’s taking a break from competing 💀. I’m such an idiot lmao. But yeah, I could see him and possibly Maister leading the Sora meta

[@illford]

@@Psytastic_ssbu Does maister even play sora seriously ?

[@csto6804]

@@illfordmaister’s sora is a meme lol

[@cameronbeachy7411]

I really appreciate this kind of video that is presented as a recap with smash headlines. I really enjoy smash bros and try to stay up to date with all the tournaments, but I rarely have the time to sit down and watch them entirely so I miss a lot of storylines. Thanks for the video, Larry! It was greatly appreciated by a casual smash bros enthusiast 👏🏼

[@osvaldoavila3047]

I like this format larry, keep it going!

[@zachlooney8582]

I know it was only a crew battle, but we gotta talk about how well skyjay did

[@fromjahwluv]

An argument could be made that the difference in viewership occurred since LMBM had no japanese attendance (as far as I know) and umebura10 had both NA and EU attendants (popular ones at that), meaning that umebura had NA, EU, AND japanese fans watching. just a thought

[@ItBeHowItBe47]

The point he was making was a steve banned tournament doesn’t get more views than a non steve banned tournament. The two most interesting Japanese players don’t attend steve banned tournaments.

[@Mama_Peach]

Cosmos hate is getting really old.

[@franklinkramer1640]

Not enough comments here about what you said regarding Umeki, that is RIDICULOUS. Like, I literally don't understand how someone could be a TO at an event that large, compete, and actually perform so well. With Peach!

[@epistarter1136]

I don't know anyone else besides Acola who's using Steve at top 8 and it also makes him a big red target to go for. I've seen people showing their dislike towards both him and Steve, what happened to hate the character and not the player?

[@Spyder-Marth]

"Hate the character and not the player" is something the Smash community seems to have forgot about. Imma be honest, a lot of players who hate Steve, hate Acola and Onin, too. If that wasn't true, Onin would have never received those ____ threats and players wouldn't be so desperate to discredit Acola whenever he is in discussion for being number 1. There are people who actually hate Steve but respect Steve players, but not too many from my experience.

[@Htiy]

Mw at the end 🙂 Hears team galactic music 🕺🕺🕺🪩🪩

[@RocketOtto]

Sad to see Kameme go mans literally my inspiration for Sora in smash. But I’m not mad and I see him in a new light 🫡

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

Honestly the viewership in Umebura compared to LMBM honestly seals any sort of “viewership” argument ever lmao Not everyone in NA would’ve been able to see it live because time difference and yet many really have seen more of Umebura than LMBM. That’s actually crazy

[@trilogy5188]

no just checked

[@GHeinz]

i love how it's "cheese" when incineroar does it, but when it's pyra/mythra, "they're just a top 5 character" lol.

[@justice8718]

Pyra/Mythra do not have cheese. Nothing they do is out of nowhere or repeative.

[@boiledfrogs1]

larry u are my best friend

[@TheShinyHaxorus3D]

@1:27 nair into Fsmash is a thing???!!! Why don't more Ryus do that????

[@nathanlevesque7812]

The people who don't watch sets that only have bland characters, like swordies, just dip without doomsaying. On the flipside most of the Steve haters will watch his sets just to complain, but they don't even need him to be in the set to complain about him. On the one hand there are people who are actually bored, and on the other are people who are the exact opposite of that but can't break kayfabe to admit that they live to hate heel-characters.

[@postboy2242]

Tweek smiling like a child... murderer

[@frankunodostres473]

I'm very out of the loop but since when do people hate on samus?? such a cool, classic mid tier character lol

[@Pateissier]

Mid tier my ass 😭

[@frankunodostres473]

@@Pateissier is samus high tier? like I said I haven't kept up at all.

[@christiangould6364]

Idk, the viewership argument def. applies to me, since lmbb is the first tourney I’ve watched in a while, and the Steve ban is what made me want to watch it

[@ItBeHowItBe47]

And I don’t watch Steve banned events, so we cancel out.

[@Legendary_Honey]

LMBM was 100% more hype because Steve was banned. I don't think there's any point in arguing otherwise. Player motivation without him around is visibly so much higher, and the sets are better because of it.

[@playboybrendo103]

6:46 bro all facts with everything you said about Tweek , bro is beating everyone consistently besides Acola n Gluto .

[@rinktheredlink9317]

From my viewer stand point I like to watch entertaining smash. And when I see Acola in top 8 I tend to not even bother watching. Light, spargo, Leo, tweek, skyjay. When I see players like this I know im not wasting my time and im going to see something amazing. It's not that I don't respect Steve players or think he should be banned necessarily I just dont want to watch them play. And I don't watch them play.

[@cameronstrouth7614]

Larry Lurr.

[@Rakath]

Skyjay in the crew battle was unhinged. 10 stocks. And only the three Tweek Banjo stocks could be argued as gifts. (1 from Jakal, 3 from Kurama, 3 stocked Webb just clean, then 3 Tweek & Kazooie.)

[@an-albinocrow33808]

it's crazy that the LMBM top 4 was the same set of players and damn near the exact same order... turns out all four of those guys are really good at the game! (neither part of this sentence is sarcasm.. I am being genuine here)

[@warrenlwolfe]

Shoutout to Kameme what a good guy and a great player. Will be missed!

[@Atomic_MVS]

Wait didn't skyjay get second at a Pound bracket, under riddles? It was the one that the winner of pound qualified for the final ssbu summit

[@timjim7163]

Collision

[@dagoat1945]

Love you larry

[@crazykhespar8487]

8:05 My friends and I stop watching streams (we watch them kinda like football sometimes) when Steve comes on. Sonix used to be annoying too but at least the play looks clean and he can turn it up to 11 and roll people. Steve is just... I feel it could be so much more creative than it is. It also invalidates so many matchups, a lot of which we enjoy watching. The slow play from Steve is also so much more boring. You cant really approach Steve effectively without a mistake on the Steves end.

[@crazykhespar8487]

Just my experience. Should it be an anti Steve argument? Idk but I dont like watching his matches at all. Easier to stop watchin and smoke and talk for half an hour, maybe the BO5 will be over by then (if we even remember to put it back on)

[@erickalvarez6486]

8:20 bro everyone in japan has more views than america, like Gakt has more views than probably even VoiD and more, plus everyone in Japan has a pocket Steve, viewership has nothing to do though.

[@ItBeHowItBe47]

Port priority where Steve was legal had more average and peak viewers than lmbm

[@CaptAUGseome]

Nah Steve is too good. He's like meta knight in brawl and bayo in smash 4. Just ban them. Nintendo will never nerf him. Yet they nerfed much worse characters in the past. So we as a community need to decide what is fair.

[@101academics]

Acola is carried. I don't think many people consider him number 1 as he gets wrecked whenever he chooses someone other than Steve.

[@Pop-735]

Gluttony without Wario, Light without fox, Sonix without Sonic, Can they become top player？😅 I don’t think so😂 It mean “what you say is off the mark”😊

[@tracque_5677]

Or he has… a main? I mean no one is saying Steve isn’t busted, but you can’t really expect anyone to do just as well with their secondaries as their main. Pretty much the only person in ultimate who has done that is MKLeo.

[@101academics]

@Pop-735 except all those characters are nothing compared to Steve. Nice try though.

[@101academics]

@@tracque_5677 who happens to be the most busted character in Ultimate.

[@ItBeHowItBe47]

I’ve seen both acola and gluttony play secondaries in bracket, but I’ve only seen one of those two take games with their secondaries and it wasn’t gluttony.