What Vex PROVES about League of Legends

[@Skooch]

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[@itismejj5376]

D E E C E

[@gurpreetkhamba5399]

Just checked, my phone so old, it isnt an option no more.

[@Asfragged]

2 minutes of ad skooch, goddamn

[@scettico...]

deece

[@MrIcezGaming]

What's not to love? Apple products only.

[@gumbarius]

Love how the anti mobility champ is also required to be dashing around like it's nothing, because the same idea with Poppy simply cannot catch up with the others except if the dashes are targeting her

[@thetruestar6348]

I kinda hope they buff Poppy at least like just lower the cool down of her W so she can deny Dash is more

[@GarnetDust24]

I think I nice poppy buff would be for her w to block more than one dash. Maybe as you level it up it increases the amount you can block?

[@mackerzz7147]

@@thetruestar6348 I mean they did just buff her passive so she is getting buffs

[@jimbojimb1382]

@@mackerzz7147 i wouldn't rly call lowering the cd of her passive that good of a buff, it genuinely only helps her win matchups she already wins more effectively and makes her loosing matchups a bit easier to handle farm wise, but her kit is still stuck in this limbo where "she can do her thing if the enemy does this and ONLY if the enemy does this"

[@evgeniblanchard675]

No poppy also protecc ally against dashes. She is just complicated to play and not realy popular.

[@El_DobeS3nsual]

"because once a character is too mobile that's it, they're a problem forever" This made me remember "The Fast" video...

[@mark030a]

*Jhin laughing spasthically intensifies*

[@JordanAdventure1]

i miss that build....is what made me play jhin in the first place, although i admit it was annoying as hell to counter it.

[@NANIKANSEIDORIFTO]

People often forget the insane advantage that is having more movespeed than your opponent. And we're not even counting dashes and blinks.

[@dokusha519]

The fast has a special spot in my memory

[@slippers8000]

@@NANIKANSEIDORIFTO same with animation cancels lol.

[@Catspirit123]

as someone who mostly plays mid lane mages against a sea of assassins, I'm very much looking forward to Vex

[@TheThomas2730]

yeah especially because she is weak against normal mid mages. Problem is, all these assassins can ban here. So no big deal for them.

[@tdmc6428]

@@TheThomas2730 yeh I really want to play vex but I don’t think I’ll ever get to play her as she counters assassins, a good chunk of non assassins and lmao yasuo, giving you passive procs every auto basically

[@Salseitito]

Vex also counters mages as a main xerath i can only say wtf is riot doing pls nerf mobility what do they do another mage assasin atleast this mage counters other assasins

[@cannedsquasher5923]

@@Salseitito if you are playing Xerath vs Vex and are getting poked out of lane you 100% deserve it. All her abilities are telegraphed at range, it is unbelievably crazy how easy it is. Even with 100 ping I can dodge it at a certain range fairly frequently only getting hit because of my own mistakes. She's OP vs melee champions, meh against about everyone else.

[@Felen009]

you can just play malz and shit on all of them tho

[@sugardaddyscav5834]

Vex is a breath of fresh air in the mid lane. There is never a time I say "oh ffs" when I see her picked mid because she's a decently balanced champ that isnt dashing around ignoring my offence and can be outplayed. She has good damage sure, but she's a mage and if not played correctly she's blown up easily. Over the last couple years champ design has gotten so out of control to see a champ with skill descriptions that are not Bible passages or take a masters degree to understand is so refreshing. That and she isn't a hot guy/girl with less clothes than a stripper instantly makes her more interesting than other releases. We need more monster/yordle champs Riot.

[@catur_a.C]

Unfortunately it's probably gonna be nerfed till the point where it'll be unplayable as many kiddos cry because they cannot instakill a mage while just running towards them pressing a bunch of random abilities and that this mage can actually fight back and counter them... I literally saw people getting angry because they lost a team fight after wasting ALL their abilities on the tank (late game Zac) and when vex came in she killed em with the abilities she have (which are specifically made for team fight as they can hit many targets at once and deal great damage), so this guy actually complains that he could not kill a mage with basically AA against a full combo of R→E→R→W→Q→R repeat... This is probably the same people that ask for a Yasuo dps buff and more health as well as a "Master Q" healing passive...

[@jadenburns314]

She’s also trying to find a way to kill herself in the lore so like..relatable every game almost lmao

[@__lifeline__]

I have Brigitte PTSD from Season 10 of Overwatch, and one thing I can tell you is that you should NEVER make a character to solve a major balancing issue. To solve it they always end up giving the champion too much power conceptually, and as such either fails or turns the game on its head and becomes really oppressive.

[@DrunkTigerGrill]

Let’s hope vex does to league what brigette did to ow Fucking kills it and makes it a joke

[@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627]

@@DrunkTigerGrill You're dumb if you think Brigitte was what killed the game.

[@otterfire4712]

I'd say the problem with Brig was that she did almost everything a support should do in OW. That is to physical, lasting presence on any objective. Passive let her keep tanks and nearby allies healed up over time and had E to do burst heal. She had a shield to block some damage or splash and to also shield bash. No other support, save Lucio offers as much value and even he lacks the health pool compared. Pair this into the fact that Brig was released around the dawn of the GOATs meta, which demonstrated the power imbalance of tanks and supports vs DPS. I don't think Vex will be too broken. She's good, but depending on numbers, she may not make a big splash like Akali or Zoe. This is partly due to champs like Morde or Udyr who simply run down champs.

[@BrotherVoidBomber]

Overwatch is a great example of power creep with the characters. Moira pre patching was nutty, and Brigitte wasn't the thing that killed overwatch but it was like the nuke of power creep.

[@BoneWalker]

@@otterfire4712 "Clerics are a perfectly fair and balanced class" -- Cleric players

[@jacedaniels1812]

"every silver Yasuo is shitting themselves" as they should be, league is gonna be a mess and I'm here for it.

[@ReigoVassal]

What do you mean "gonna be mess" when it's already it is.

[@belaf1329]

Always has been.

[@TheTankyCrowbar]

I would love a character like Ares from Smite to counter the mobility creep. Gets 3 chains which cripple (unable to dash or blink) but each one requires you to hit the last and it requires a fair bit of skill to land them all.

[@alejandro_rodriguez_99]

Or something like Smite's Morgana, that has an ability that do damage at enemies hitted with that if they use mobility. Cripple is better in longterm, specially because except cassio, there isn't a champion with that effect.

[@slapmeelmo2411]

And then he just blinks into your team and uses his ult from back when beads had a 180 second cd- 3 times the CD of his ult

[@iyadshabat7852]

@@alejandro_rodriguez_99 singed also has a ground but its singed, so yeah, only cassio

[@alejandro_rodriguez_99]

@@slapmeelmo2411 well, in lol everyone can buy quicksilver, the problem is that there isn't a magic option.

[@xtremo1killlercombat]

Fucking loved Ares before Lowrez fucked Smite

[@allanime01]

Her own character insights article literally has the word for word line "You know whats really annoying? Dashes" so like yeah this entire video is facts lmao.

[@notacreatureoftheabyss]

i'm surprised that a champ doesn't have a TP as a *PASSIVE* at this point

[@matthewr1207]

Technically shen does

[@vitorciatteidepaula4601]

old reksai

[@iyadshabat7852]

Big boi tahm, sorta

[@notacreatureoftheabyss]

@@vitorciatteidepaula4601 *passive*

[@EddyConejo]

@@matthewr1207 No he doesn't, not even technically. It's his ultimate, not his passive nor the passive of his ultimate.

[@mrDjuroman]

Skooch: mobility creep is a huge problem Also Skooch: They should remove all point and click cc from the game

[@mr.joesterr5359]

I think those are both demonstrably good things for the game. Point and click cc isn’t the only way to counter mobility….

[@Uwhwvwgwh]

@@mr.joesterr5359 this change and I love

[@Frumpbeard]

Meanwhile, DotA has an item that gives you a 3.5s point and click polymorph.

[@umbranight1628]

And both are true

[@JesusChrist-bx8ge]

@@Frumpbeard dota is cursed

[@hydrophobic5851]

"garen won't be able to do anything if the enemy dashes away" Laughts in 600ms

[@osokratos]

There will be no "OP PoG champ" if there's an OP PoG champ that counters all other OP PoG champs.

[@olufade11]

No they just made the most op champ in this case. And I've played her. She is op with the current ratios

[@toubsterLP]

@A.W. Stephens and its also no fun

[@speeddemon9616]

That's BS logic cause Garen is till the most OP ass on the rift, with his so called basic kit that has Passive = did you touch me, cause am still full health Q = silence < fucking silence, dash, empower, and auto reset W = Literally a better Allister ult on a 13sec CD E = I can rush attack speed boots have sustain dps, while playiing with one hand R = you can't be out of range of this, cause if I press this you were in range and now you just can't be out of range and am and assassin now Zed Talon got nothing on me, cause if i kill u your dead (cheeky heal nope, flash my combo nope)

[@sp0pie928]

why are you typing PoG like that

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

@@sp0pie928 because they mean "piece of garbage" instead of the twitch pog.

[@KidoRampage]

Poppy looking at Skooch when talking about champions countering mobility creep: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@roseroberts7556]

There's also Taliya. They counter mobility. They must be meta too right? ..Right?

[@frankhorrigan1508]

every mobile champ: "yes"

[@SojournerKai]

Fun fact, Skooch did talk about Poppy in this stream as a fun character that ruined the game for a bit when she was first reworked. I cut it out of the video in favour of staying truer to the Vex narrative though.

[@kooldudematt1]

"Yes, yes Poppy and Taliyah are jokes"

[@banditcraft8850]

The last time they made a yordle they made kled and they had to wait until the man who did the VO for him to evacuate his massive balls sufficiently far from riot HQ for them to feel safe for that kind of energy. It only now just happened.

[@Grimdock]

Fun fact: He also voiced wukong ;)

[@Cheesecakeman105]

@@Grimdock he's also the OG English voice of Shinji Ikari

[@Ellebeeby]

@@Cheesecakeman105 shinji! Get on the lizard!

[@FinalWynn]

I just love her design, the shadow she has and how it moves just awesome. But yea she will be perm banned becouse 99% of mid/top/jungle players choose champions who dashes/blink. Also the problem with mobility is actually what you are against. They removed more and more point and click hard CC and all of the sudden there is no counter anymore to flashy champs becouse skill shots most of the time are too slow and those champions can avoide them.

[@JordanAdventure1]

"Once a character is too mobile thats it, they're a problem forever" *Sees yone* Yeah...it does

[@TurbinationE]

I feel like Lee Sin is the best example. He will never not be viable just because of how mobile he is

[@zerospectator4119]

If only the other champs are updated to have mobility too but they dont so...

[@thedevildarksoul9727]

@@zerospectator4119 yea it's such a rip, if their was a bit more dashes, move speed buff, move speed debuffs, or walls it's make the game more interesting but at the same time more toxic.

[@theyeetusmaximus170]

Irelia

[@forsaken9676]

Is it weird that I'm hyped for an anti-mobility champion when I myself play a mobility-based champion? Especially a character that relies on that dash to get around teamfights. Idk maybe just me wanting a new character archetype to come into the game.

[@Giant_Dad]

Not at all. It's a desperately needed aspect of the game.

[@flameofmage1099]

No. I main Rakan, she ruins my life, but I'm glad she exists

[@mausebas]

My problem with her passive personally, is that she probably will have the Cassio/Singed problem where she counters champs with little to no mobility WAAAAAY more than she does to champs with a lot of it

[@a.arrondel6379]

She looks rather short range, and she can only apply passive once with no enemy dashes, so I think it'll be fine

[@greatninja2590]

@@a.arrondel6379 her ult seems very long

[@5frogfrenzy]

@@greatninja2590 but flies her directly to the target

[@greatninja2590]

@@5frogfrenzy so you press the W for that right and fear them.

[@minhminh-wp5lg]

Vex is not a counter dash champ, she only punish champ like ys or ire for dashing in front of her

[@stranger4537]

*takes ghost to counter her q *Runs away at the speed of light after getting hit by her e

[@0MidnighttheDragon0]

"riot is cancelling flash so everyone can go ghost for halloween!" he's gonna catch 'em all cuz he's Skoochie Phantom, gonna catch'em all cuz he's Skoochie phantom

[@Swordkiller55623]

I hate how I was singing this in my head in the theme song voice. such a good cartoon

[@0MidnighttheDragon0]

@@Swordkiller55623 it really was. just too bad Butch proved to be such a manipulative narcecist.

[@minhminh-wp5lg]

Vex can't cancel blink and only cancel dash if she fear them

[@0MidnighttheDragon0]

@@minhminh-wp5lg Um...okay? What does that have to do with my comment?

[@minhminh-wp5lg]

@@0MidnighttheDragon0 oh sorry, wrong comment section

[@Warlitzor]

Skooch: Aw this is gunna hurt my foot so bad. Also Skooch: *kicks phone onto slipper* Me: *confused internal screaming*

[@Kylesico912x]

Honestly makes me wish there was more champs like Vex. Maybe an item. Mobility is rampant in league but as it stands, Poppy and Vex are the best bet against it.

[@snakehorde]

There is stridebreaker, however this items counters mobility with huge and long duration but anihilates any non mobility based champion...

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

Even if there are, what would the item type be? For it to be fair, it'll have to be present for EVERY class because every class wants to counter mobility. You can't just slap a tank item with anti-mobility and call it a day because that shows bias. "Why are tanks given this item but not us other classes?" it's the Zhonya/Mejai argument all over again.

[@octaviozd2435]

An item would be the best, Vex could be the new Morgana, if it is the only thing that counter Yasuo, Yone, Katarina, Zed, etc. The easiest thing will be to ban her, so I think she will have a similar ban rate As long as assassins are viable in mid, they will probably be the most popular class and will ban Vex a lot if they feel there is 0 counterplay. After all, Vex will be her greatest threat, not even Cassiopeia will be worthy of banning.

[@octaviozd2435]

And when assassins are no longer viable, Vex's ban rate will drop because she will not be so dangerous and will have problems playing against other higher range mages

[@DragonSlayer3050]

*kicks phone* a couple minutes later "I just got this phone recently and I'm glad its in safe hands"

[@shnobz_kotik]

No one will ever play Vex because every 12 y.o. assassin main in every match will ban her every time. She will be literally unplayable. Because kids will never let you ruin their fun playing their "high skill and perfectly balanced" assassins.

[@cayoticsgaming2328]

I mean if that was the case, kindred would be banned all the time, zilean will be banned all the time, taric will be banned all the time, those are champs that arguably cock assassin's over harder than Vex, poppy would be perma banned, Cass would be perma banned, Nautilus will be perma banned, Leona will be perma banned, you get the point, Vex will be banned for a bit at the start like every new champ for example like akshan but then will fall off the ban list like every new champ to a regular ban rate, there are assassin's that Vex can't counter after all, for example Nocturne, and Vex unlike some other champs actually requires a bit of skill to do her countering which means there are possibilities to outplay her, since there is a window you can go on her or someone else, I think you are being way to negative for no real reason

[@icarusunited]

@@cayoticsgaming2328 Not really; Kindred ain't nothing, Zilean ain't nothing, and Taric is arguably less than Zilean & Kindred. Since it has a windup. Vex's is a passive. Taric, Zilean, and Kindreds are all ults. Poppy is on a long-ass W & is the only anti-dash champion. Which makes her a decent champ... otherwise she'd be a bad/mediocre champ that has a cool ult.

[@icarusunited]

Honestly tho, Vex counters almost all assassins. They dash/blink in, you auto, they get feared, you get away/burst them to death.

[@mihailovasic4623]

@@icarusunited You use a basic ability, not an auto to ground them.

[@Zelorp]

Difference is nobody plays those champions. League players, by and large, hate playing supports/tanks, but they love playing assassins and mages. Vex is fundamentally a mage, so people will actually pick her at a significant rate.

[@ayuub1]

2:11 When the ad is done

[@DesternFoxxFTW]

honestly, I wasn't looking forward to this champion that much cause of the design, but honestly, you're absolutely right with the dash thing

[@utelvescaro1998]

Honestly?

[@egrolol6620]

@@utelvescaro1998 Yeah??

[@buberoini]

I totally agree @Destyf . I hate this champion lore wise, but ruination as a whole was screwed up. This anti dash thing is awesome, im just not sure I like her having a reset dash.

[@saltlord_]

I'm glad that it's not a conventionally attractive anime character for once.

[@hetoverseo3887]

@@saltlord_ I'm glad that it isn't a shirtless male too

[@jackthompson2582]

“We can sell two skins on these guys” Skooch don’t do me dirty like this, I’m still malding they made Brave Phoenix Xayah and no Rakan skin :(

[@snowpawzvideos]

dw brave Phoenix xayah & iG rakan amiright

[@zeroderorero3948]

The reason why I look up to vex release is because it hard counters the cancer that is Irelia right now

[@forthy831]

@Riweuh yes

[@franconunez925]

Keep silent, or you will conjure the Irealia mains to tell you to "git gud"

[@reinstriver5432]

@@franconunez925 I mained the old irelia :) I hate the new one though :( quit the game after the rework happened in S8

[@franconunez925]

@@reinstriver5432 I mean, I don't know much about Irelia pre rework but those who play actual Irelia, they seem to see balanced to idea of free self healing dashes with resets(and also, having a good amount of mana).

[@CringeUser-1-19-1-2]

@@franconunez925 for some reason they also think it's balanced when they 1v2 against champs that are 2 levels above them

[@alexmcfly31415]

"Mobility is OP" "Just counter it with hard CC bro" "How am I going to hit the CC?" "I dunno, pick Twisted Fate"

[@hanshysher6266]

For some reason the champions in meta right now are hard mobility champs, mages are only playes as a neccesity

[@matty_nic8478]

Love how he stopped talking about The Samples That Sell, when he arrived on Ornn 12:27

[@Mineadicto12]

Riot: The mobility problem is solved and it will never come up again. "A couple patches later, it came up again"

[@freshlymemed5680]

Riot: "So anyways we removed it because the Irelia/Akali/Ahri/ *Insert waifu bait champ with a dash* mains are mad they can't play their champ.

[@whitejester]

@@freshlymemed5680 and boycott skins

[@octaviozd2435]

@@freshlymemed5680 and why should they be "unplayables" unknown LoL analyst on youtube with an anime image?

[@zekraax35]

let’s not forget when battle song would turn the entire team into Usain Bolts with 8 legs that also had rockets on them.

[@AurelionSass]

As a space dragon main, i gladly welcome Vex. Put those assassins in their place, you sad, monotonous creature!!

[@TheIrrelevantYT]

As an ADC main, these days I play with team and try to space perfectly, but there's no such thing as spacing perfectly when everything jumps over your tanks and into your squishy DMs.

[@snowsleaves]

And complaining about Galeforce? It's a 90 second cooldown, which is much longer than the mobility mythics for every other class. Hell, most ults come up faster than it does.

[@TheIrrelevantYT]

@@snowsleaves I think the issue is when AD champions with good mobility take Galeforce.

[@Philip7710]

@@snowsleaves adcs aren’t supposed to be more mobile than assassins tho thats their whole gimmick but u have champs like kai’sa, vayne, xayah, lucian etc that completely shit on assassins bruisers and tanks being mobile is an issue tho

[@asatisfactionpill308]

skooch:" I m glad that VEX isnt the most attractive champ" Me:* closing tabs , clearing search history and data *

[@iyadshabat7852]

Go sit in the corner and think about what youve done and who you have become

[@ilianc.r.9236]

@@iyadshabat7852 I think that everyday as I reflect about my actions.

[@lilshadow48]

yordles are love, yordles are life

[@generalgrievous4738]

Bro

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa6552]

@@lilshadow48 yordles are goblin demons that feeds on pain you sick fu)-k

[@ExorPraetor]

Skooch: "Flash won't be meta anymore" Me, a Ghost Mundo main: "I've been looking forward to this"

[@eeeecca]

i dont think gwen gets countered by vex because her W is 200 years stronger

[@dimyell]

Just stand inside of it or wait it out for fucks sake.

[@UgsOfLorian]

Found the Gwen main

[@dimyell]

@@UgsOfLorian main Morde and Taliyah but nice try.

[@mr.joesterr5359]

@@UgsOfLorian More like tank main that has no counter play to gwen cause her w is beyond fucking broken

[@dumbino7745]

just get into near melee range of a melee champ with a dash or just stop playing the game until it runs out 4head lol. for real tho when the only real """counter""" plays for a champ is to put yourself in an actively bad position at best or straight up not getting to play the game until it runs out at worst then we have a goddamn problem.

[@sayaamami9512]

Skooch: Im happy Riot finally does something against the mobility in the game. Poppy: Am I a joke to you?

[@Indrodaeica]

I think that point and click hard cc is fine on some characters like fiddle where its their entire identity. The point of fiddle is that he goes in and fears everyone, but its a conditional multi fear or he looses a ton of damage to fear a single person.

[@LesserLordKusanali]

But Vex doesn't have point and click cc

[@tatzecom]

@@LesserLordKusanali *laughs in Vex W*

[@LesserLordKusanali]

@@tatzecom i mean, it's not like it's forced like a point and click. you can simply just not get close

[@tatzecom]

@@LesserLordKusanali thank God vex doesn't have anything to get close to me then, right?

[@sebawuba8533]

@@tatzecom she has to use her ult to be fair also, this is way better than any other point and click cc in the game since you can punish her for getting near considering she's a control mage granted she gets a shield, but serpent's fang exists to counter that, and assassins have way better damage close range than vex does anyways so you can just ooga booga burst her to death

[@AprilFools242]

Riot: Oh no guys! We've introduced too much mobility, what are we gonna do? Maybe we should slowly tone it down Aaron from the Overwatch team: Nah mate, just introduce a champion that directly counters your problem. That's never gone wrong before!

[@Neomeniaaa]

the difference is that league has over 150 champions, many of which counter vex. And Overwatch has barely any heroes in comparison, making such a heroe a problem more easily. I mean we have counter dash champions already. Poppy with her W, cassio and singed with their ground, probably more champions i cant think of. Either way, i'd love for riot to implement more champions like this because it offers counters to mobility while not making everyone just buy the anti mobility item.

[@jeejee9427]

@@Neomeniaaa The problem is that Vex will never fix the mobility problem. Poppy does that too, but she's never picked, because she sucks, so that means the entire healthy gameplay of the game relies on whether or not Poppy is meta, and when dashes are countered by Poppy, that means Poppy becomes a problem. So they didn't fix anything, they just did a temporary replacement. Same with Vex, once she comes out, she will just be the next annoying piece of shit, because she HAS to be strong enough to be picked, and even when she will be, ADCs for example will STILL pick Galeforce. They need that to survive. Basically, the entire balance has all just been a bunch of bandaid fixes one after the other, and it can all be traced back to like season 7. Instead of fixing mobility creep, they gave a dash to ADCs (who are designed around being immobile and easy to lock down) and made Vex. But you know what's the funny thing about Vex ? If you play a dash champion, you're just going to ban her, and nothing changed.

[@Neomeniaaa]

@@jeejee9427 thats why i suggest more champions lile vex who have a dash counter. Vex alone wont solve the issue, but if they bring in multiple champions like her pick van will be more healthy because you cant just ban all of the anti mobility champions without leaving other strong champions open.

[@jeejee9427]

@@Neomeniaaa And then you end up with a meta dominated by anti-dash champions, and you can't nerf them because then you end up with a meta dominated by dash champions since you never fixed that problem in the first place. That's literally the whole Sustain/Grievous problem all over again. Or the Burst/Healing problem.

[@Neomeniaaa]

@@jeejee9427 sustain and grievous is just an imbalance. Everyone now gets grievous because sustain is too op and prevelant. Afaik it wasnt an issue before the item rework. At least not from what i saw and noticed. Currently too many champions have mobility. We can already counter movement speed mobility through the use of slows(although those champions arent rlly meta, which is another issue), but we can't really counter dashes. There are only a handful of counter options for that, and basically no counter to dashes means that you can dash without punishment or risk of being countered. I personally think that adc's get the dash item(forgot its name for a second haha) so much both because there is no counter to dashes, they need a dash because everyone else does and they dont have a counter, and the other adc mythics are less good. Thus to me it feels like this item is more a bandaid fix for adc's. When you fix the core issue of not having counters, such an item loses its value immensely, and maybe it should be removed entirely. I also have a problem with prowlers claw but mostly because it allows assassin's to go in without even needing to use their dash making it easy too safe. But why should they need such an item currently? Because everyone has a dash and can get away from them. So again, why not have counters. Something i just thought of that could also maybe work is a support item which also counters dashes but it would be hard to balance that given the fact almost everyone would want to buy it. Either way, i think fundamentally it is a lack of counters that is causing the issue, not necessarily the amount of mobility in the game.

[@vytasdauksa2401]

I swear to God skooch looks like the dictator in the comedy "Dictator" just without the beard

[@tallyns.3558]

Now that mention it he kinda does lol

[@letsrank9349]

I searched it and yeah! He does😂

[@kingslayer4808]

Yeah, He's Aladeen without the beard! 👌🏻🤣

[@angel06xpr25]

Aladeen you are right!

[@mausebas]

are you having a boy or an abortion?

[@BobbyCorwen42]

Fair counterpoint I feel: Point and click CC actually counters mobility. I quite like its presence, in fact, as I find it a very necessary counter to the zeds and akalis for the champions who are meant to be immobile.

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

Mobility is one thing. UNTARGETABILITY, though, SHOULD NOT exist. Yes, I also mean Zed and Yi.

[@iambumbo7534]

"hey devs can you nerf mobility abit please?" devs: *vex*

[@lukevaillancourt4071]

100% that’s how all KZbins should do the “are not subscribed” call to action, it was quick and everyone knew what you were talking about but you spared people from skipping it

[@Stryxion]

In Bloodborne there's a mechanic that you take more damage (or have less resistance) if you get hit in your dash animation [its in the attack animation aswell but thats not the point here] something like 20% more damage (just a random number; balance needed) would nerf all mobile characters in a way that mekes dashing a risk and reword decision instead of a "get out of jail" free card

[@valimaa1006]

Holy shit this is actually good idea.

[@Stryxion]

@@valimaa1006 thanks ^^

[@Illegiblescream]

This is part of Soulsbornes hidden Stability mechanic. Stability effects shields, poise, and armor in most games. While unstable, from using mobility, attacking, or being knocked around too much, you take a lot more damage.

[@HassanKhan-wq3tk]

doesnt nerf blinks. kat is still op

[@senseithomes]

@@HassanKhan-wq3tk she should have decreased resistances for a second after she blinks then

[@inigo137]

>wants all point and click CC to be removed >wants old sion back LMAO

[@hanshysher6266]

*Confusing Screaming*

[@ExecutionerThel]

Skooch: “Mobility creep is a problem right now” Every leona spammer in solo q*: “Is it though?”

[@Keurgui1]

Leo has a dash :0

[@FenrirAlter]

@@Keurgui1 but it's limited to going in. Not like other champions that can use it to disengage

[@freshlymemed5680]

@@FenrirAlter Not that it matters. She goes in so the enemy adc doesnt get to walk for a whole minute.

[@ryry8533]

8:13 idk pretty easy matchup tbh. when she doesn't have fear go in you win not hard to understand don't understand why people think just because a champion has dashes they cant beat vex.

[@Nightmare-fe9hr]

I advocate for making deadmans fully charged auto ground targets

[@CringeUser-1-19-1-2]

honestly that sounds pretty cool

[@snakehorde]

Why not, here's a comment in the hopes it will promote your idea

[@snakehorde]

"KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits."

[@protolight1654]

That sounds great Nerf the dragon again And the cosmic traveler too

[@the-ghost-6669]

I’d like to mention back that : - point-and-click cc is the exact best counter to mobility creep, precisely because you can’t dodge it once cast, so removing it is making mobility better. - Varus only play prowlers because of the mythic passive and not the dash, which is now limited on champions, so pretty much impossible to use for a squishy adc.

[@tatzecom]

point and click CC punishes immobile champs more than mobile ones. Point and Click CC is bad.

[@freshlymemed5680]

@@tatzecom I can agree with that but its honestly a necessary evil. I remember winning a game where there was a fed Fiora and I was playing (prerework) Fiddlesticks support. E + Q and she couldnt do a damn thing and we won the game off it. To be fair, any champ that loses hard to point and click cc probably loses to any form of cc to begin with.

[@the-ghost-6669]

@@tatzecom Actually, any form of CC punishes more immobile champions than mobile ones, because they cannot flee as much after the CC expired. Hence, this “property” of point and click CC to punish immoblity more than mobility is not specific to the fact that it’s point and click but because it is CC. The main difference though, is that hitting a cage as a Morgana against a good Hecarim is way harder than on a Varus, but TF can hit gold card with the same ease. That being said, I agree with you that point-and-click CC is in fact bad, because of its lack of counterplay : only stasis and untargetability (and projectile walls) can protect you from it, which are either not available frequently enough or not available on many champions.

[@shaunroberts2037]

Skootch, I got a bronze theory for you: neeko and shako - quadruple shaco. Go forth and make the enemy cack their dacks

[@Aramendoa]

This is why high elo is overestimated

[@Lothric_Potato]

2:12 to skip ad

[@hi-uz6uo]

It proves that not everybody in ruinterra is a prettyface fanservice character

[@mocod_2402]

I see you haven't visited R34.

[@Eldani-xr1rf]

Yeah , the rest are edgy anime bois and girls

[@HelloIamaBear]

They took a yordle and made it an egirl bro it’s pandering as hell

[@ivanergovic2634]

Lmao jotaro u fcked up

[@unboundnevada9908]

She is hot tho

[@fdgamerml6157]

Skooch: "League has a gigantic mobility problem" Me, a silver player, going Morderkaiser against a platinum Riven: *PAIN*

[@k_Why]

Morde shits on riven

[@rickissad1400]

@@k_Why it all comes down to Morde picking bone plating. If Morde gets bone plating, Riven's game is over, if for dome reason he doesn't take it Riven shits on him.

[@DamianSzajnowski]

It's a playable lane both sides, Riven needs early lead to do anything mid game, though.

[@JBuggyD]

or yorick

[@cristalmyth09]

Buy serpents and never fight without a wave or minion next to you

[@Gormezzz]

Jesus those phone cases are insanely expensive

[@EmrysMerlin8807]

So I think she's kinda like a hybrid between Morg and Fiddle. First champ in a while (read: years) that I'm actually planning to pick up day 1.

[@malice3331]

Hard disagree on point and click cc, It forces the high mobility assassins like akali and zed, to stop and think about their next move if the enemy has a pantheon or fiddle. It shouldnt be plentiful sure, but i think its needed.

[@fntp1390]

"Vex can be played support" Kalista players:

[@Keurgui1]

Mage “support”

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa6552]

yall should stop crying about carry supports tbh :/ not every support wants to sit down and peel for their adc while getting called an egirl on return

[@Keurgui1]

@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa6552 “not every support wants to actually support” Ik and it’s a bad joke

[@leticiabastos6245]

well in soloq you cant really trust anybody on your team to carry, so the best option is to become the carry yourself instead, which is why mage supports work.

[@Keurgui1]

@@leticiabastos6245 if you’re tryna carry yourself then don’t play support Pick a solo lane, outplay the other guy and 1v9 since you’re so good tf

[@justacoconut]

"They can't dash if they are dead" -Tsun Zu art of war

[@in4mati0n57]

Vex: *Uses W* Ivern: "Why doesnt my shield do that ;-;"

[@DerVasto]

Because they don´t want Ivern to be good, like ever. We had that once, one of the few instances Riot struggled to hurry and kick Ivern in the nuts. He was never good again since then.

[@mrdeafter]

Why would they fear Ivern tho it not even make sense

[@lunaemperor7770]

@@DerVasto he wasn't just once good but multiple times

[@DerVasto]

@@lunaemperor7770 Well, it wasn´t that often still I guess, I just remember his shield being the biggest problem. Nevertheless, they´d rather ultramobile assassins be a problem for multiple patches in a row than letting Ivern be even remotely good again.

[@Flynnick]

They could release a summoner spell that has the "grounding" effect, stopping the target from using any mobility

[@lorenzolombardi3369]

The fact that this champion can destroy assassin's and hyper carries makes me so happy

[@tatzecom]

assassins yes, hypercarries no. hypercarries are already weak enough

[@blackfire6009]

Unlike cassio or singed, where it's an ability with a fairly long CD and so impacts more low mobility than high mobility. Here it's a passive whose CD gets reduced easily and is activated by the enemy actively using dashed.

[@lorenzolombardi3369]

@@tatzecom good

[@whitejester]

Have fun, the assassins are gonna be smart and boycott their assassin skins until Riot buffs them up again.

[@LuuneTheMoon]

People when riot releases a new character with dashes: oh no not again Me, a poppy main: great, one more dash to counter and annoy with!

[@foxxplayer]

Even champs with the smallest mobility, like Illaoi's W is a leap(aka a dash) is countered by vex. Also who ever takes an Ivern's Q is technically dashing to someone

[@drachenrecke5090]

But then again how often do we see Ivern?

[@Philip7710]

Flash is countered by vex

[@aa7146]

@@Philip7710 all she gets is gloom. She doesn’t get her passive up if it’s down

[@tsuntsunpenguin6530]

just a small point re: prowlers, Varus gets it over duskblade not because of the dash active (not very often does varus want to be in melee), but because of the mythic passive (prowlers gives lethality, duskblade gives haste)

[@IsaacPEF]

I love Yordles and monsters, they are my kind of favorite characters because they can develop very fun concepts and less... Safe and without risks than the usual ones... So you already know the state in which my soul is when I I realize that Vex is the last yordle champion that they have released since the last 5 years (And now imagine what will happen to the monsters) Anyone remember that Teemo is basically/supposed to be the franchise's mascot? Or what, now that place belongs to Ahri?

[@unlimitedarcher5139]

I also yearn for a new actual monster champion like Rek Sai. Something more feral. As for the mascot, it feels like it changes every couple years. Right now it’s probably Jinx as like the “face” of league. But I remember over the years it being a few others for varying periods like Annie, Katarina, Ryze and Teemo(at least I saw his hat being sold a lot). Maybe Ziggs too. He was used a lot for the rotating game mode art and his face is the Nexus blitz map.

[@goldenmajin4073]

Weren't Ryze and Katarina also mascottes of the game appearing in most artworks and skins, until Lux came out?

[@IsaacPEF]

@@goldenmajin4073 Well, maybe the mascot issue has already been irrelevant with so many champions.

[@mariobaic6180]

The only people excited about vex are people who play blind pick and aram, because we all know people who play high mobility champs are gonna keep her perma banned on ranked.

[@InfinityImplosion]

I've been yelling at Mobility since season 6 when you would ult as Zyra, and it wouldn't matter.

[@llGemini19]

I completely agree! But I've been yelling about it since they started introducing more mobility champs lol I genuinely feel that in order for not only mobility to be toned down, but for mages to become relevant, they need to make a few mages kits have some form of stopping mobility or something.

[@lamedrian2444]

Vex proves league of legends can have hot characters.

[@iso1793]

yasuo mains love this champ :))

[@kailet1997]

Yasuo haters legit love this champ :)

[@Ntwinzz]

Yasuo: ff in 10minutes, ggs open mid

[@Nameless-jp2hj]

nice pfp

[@ad16]

@@kailet1997 fr

[@ericlim3609]

Playing an immobile squishy in solo queue is basically asking yourself "I wonder when someone will decide I don't get to live anymore"

[@smolblondboi8038]

"Make zed a jungler" and "Let's remove every ad scaling on shyvana", are like two sides of a coin, one day they're like "Yay diversity !" and the next they're like "well f*ck you if you like this champ"

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

The fact that they're buffing Talon fucking jungle just makes ignite users more oppressive because of how stupidly easy it is to pilot him.

[@Raiko01]

I cant wait for a megapatch where riot significantly increasses every champ dash cooldown

[@illiji915]

reduces*

[@brokeng1637]

The fact that we never had a new voidborn since december 2014 is maling me really sad since it's my favourite brand of characters (i main cho'gath and vel'koz and Kha'zix is my go to champ when autofilled jungle)

[@Zelorp]

Riot basically retconned the void, so…

[@justaguywhoislost947]

Still waiting for a newborn or/and a Darkin But hey, I'm sure after anime girl n°98 a monster looking champ will be released

[@snakehorde]

They said to us to look forward to 2022... With a picture of velkoz... The empty gate to oblivion still clings to this post about monster champion... I believe... This will be their chance... And if not... I will support nickyboi by launching a crusade through China, slaughter the tencent owners with a naginata, and then ask the creative team to make us an eldritch abomination for a new character.

[@markopusic8258]

@@justaguywhoislost947 I wouldn't expect a new Darkin anytime soon. The Shurimian Ascended are already a rare breed in Runeterra but most of them are either dead or already present in the game. Most of the Darkin got slaughtered and those who didn't are imprisoned there isn't exactly a lot to do with Darkins anymore. Void champions though? I totally agree we got fucked over for years with those there's so much to do with voidlings.

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

@@markopusic8258 I disagree. Unless they retconned the whole "5 remaining darkins" in the lore, there's still two darkins teased and one is already referenced in Varus' lore.

[@SavveGaming]

I’ve always said certain skills should have a “grounding” effect. The changes to singed’s Pool and Cassiopeia’s miasma were great for this, but there’s plenty of other champs that could counter mobility in some capacity with small tweaks in their kit ie, Morgana pool, Ivern bush, nasus circle, trundle pillar, taliyah’s worked ground, Nidalee traps, Jhin traps, swain eye, etc. Rather than figure out how to create anti mobility champs or buffs to older existing champs the dev team was lazy imo and decided to just give everyone access to some mobility through items. It’s a band aid fix but I do like a lot of what’s been happening lately. Lots of good changes for overall health.

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

Morgana's W when she and Kayle were modernized used to ground, but Rito deemed it too broken because the cooldown goes down on champion/epic monster/large monster/large minion hit. Poppy grounds champions cancelled by her W. I do wish Rammus ult grounded everyone hit by it. It makes sense thematically. He literally sends seismic waves. You shouldn't be mobile when moving on shaking ground.

[@renanmonteiro7484]

Taliaya e?? Wtf taliya e does dmg if you Jump, and you want him to stip jumps???

[@magico1231]

I mean, Poppy also counter mobility so that ins't new to her.

[@guest_zzroman2076]

Yeah but only recently she's moved out of top lane into jungle, before that she was just the Camille/Irelia/Riven counterpick.

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa6552]

plz report this spammer

[@greatninja2590]

but she doesnt really one shot people.

[@LomboLombinho]

@@greatninja2590 seems like you've never wall stunned an assassin or an adc as poppy

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

@@LomboLombinho To be fair if you got stunned by Poppy into a wall, that's on you.

[@savandoa9498]

Remember Poppy? Her W doesnt even stop half of the mobility anymore..

[@ADoomain]

A character put in to counter the overwhelming amount of mobility. Now where have i heard this Brigitte, and we all know what happened after that

[@chrischen1771]

The Nasus comments @11:51 were golden. Imagine Nasus throwing his axe at you like Olaf and then beating the daylight out of you like Sett.

[@tora2538]

It would be cool a mythic item with an anti-mobility active or passive Active could be completely stop the dash, like poppy's W. Passive could be reducing incoming damage from the mobility user for a while. There are mobility items, why not anti-mobility items? That way you cant ban the fcking item xD

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

Because then it would make those champs obselete. Why pick Poppy when you can build x item on 5 people and completely cancel dashes? Reducing incoming damage is a fucky mechanic. It always will be. It has be a flat amount instead of a scaling one for balance purposes. If it's a tank item, it'll also make Frozen Heart and Omen obselete because literally everyone dashes these days, so that item will infinitely be useful. There are mobility items because there are champs who need it, as much as they hate it.

[@Ceracio]

@@Geheimnis-c2e I doubt it would make them obsolete. Kraken Slayer didn't make Vayne or Kai'Sa obsolete, Zz'Rot didn't make Malzahar obsolete (he already was lol).

[@vibeatzproduction2612]

@@Ceracio the thing is That Krakenslayer buffed all champs dps and vayne and kai sa just happened to be getting MORE DPS. Your example isnt good.

[@ashleyneku5432]

@@Geheimnis-c2e Poppy isn't picked because she stops dashes. She's rarely picked in general, but when she is, it isn't to mobility cancel.

[@rainbowturtle2734]

See also GW, nope we wont nerf healing, just buy this every game or lose

[@JudgeNicodemus]

Who'da thunk all it took to mess up mobility creep was an angsty yordle teenager?

[@angeloparavella3017]

i would love a character who kicks his phone against his enemies to assert economic dominance

[@kj-ng9fo]

proplay be like: *bans the thing that counters mobility* "problem solved"

[@okitoudaeus1316]

that time when volibear can cancel dash

[@Soulxstar]

Honestly I would love to see an anti mobility item rather than a champion

[@Duarte_GB]

The problem with that is that it becomes kinda mandatory most games, wich is pretty much the current problem with healing and grevious wounds

[@Soulxstar]

@@Duarte_GB i mean... Yeah but mythical items are also mandatory but that's no big deal now isn't? Besides if this hypothetical anti mobility item were also a mythic you get the choice between them, is it worthy build an anti mobility or a mobility item?

[@Duarte_GB]

@@Soulxstar mithics have options adn they serve a different purpose however if you make a dash stop mythic it wont see use because its too specific and cant complement champion kits. Point is you comparison its item rarity not its effect so it doesent make any sense

[@bruh3457]

@@Soulxstar there are ~3 mythics most champs can build effectively, and some champs (like kog maw) don't even need their mythic most of the time

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

@@Soulxstar It's not that simple. I mentioned this is another comment but the tldr is, what would the item class be? A fighter item? a tank item? an adc item? a mage item? a support item? Pick just one of these and you're risking bias. Everyone wants some way to deal with mobility so you can't just give one item to one class and be done. And depending on what item it is and the stats it has, it'll be inaccessible to the other classes or suboptimal at best. It's like Serpent's Fang. You're a mage but they all have shielding. Would you really build Serpent's Fang just to punch through said shielding?

[@k1nk1ne]

Meanwhile what taliyah's E does to mobility : "Khemkhm, you should stop khemkhm"

[@Axryuu]

As an usual mage player that I am I love her kit, I mean you can't play Velkoz, Xerath, Viktor, Brand, etc because you get ultra countered for so much mobility of every single new champion, is not just Yasuo and Zed any more, even if you play a character with some cc like Lux, Ahri or Lissandra you still have problems dealing with this characters since they also have more damage than you most of the time, Vex is awesome, and there should be more characters like her

[@Philip7710]

Yeah u still cant play these champions because vex will just outrange, outpush, outburst and outroam you

[@АндонВасилев-к8ю]

Yea they have less dmg because they can kill you from across the screen without even getting close to you

[@Axryuu]

@@АндонВасилев-к8ю in a game where most characters that have dashes also have insane damage, makes so that having range on habilities is efectibly a loss for your character, there is no comparisson, having dashes is far better than having range for your habilities, especially if you have more damage than the character with range, at the end is efectively the same

[@PatVX1]

Editing is still on point. Absolutely beautiful.

[@Inressa]

Love the Night in the Woods music at 8:43. If you can't tell from the PFP, I like the game :)

[@pandemonium922]

Glad I'm not the only one that noticed

[@joepotatoe3561]

i ve looked everywhere to make sure it was,thx for the comfirmation

[@Xertaron.]

You know at this point it's like gathering 100 people in a dark cave. It's easier to give one person a torch instead of placing lights around the damn place.

[@TheFortySeventhPlatoon4700]

Imagine if they just have Poppy two charges on her W, then we can have another Vex that’s at least a tank

[@Bonovasitch]

I can already see the theory-crafting now involving Poppy and Vex as the ankle-biting fun police roaming around noping everyone's dashes and blinks

[@deHExi]

I love league so much but I'm too scared to play. Don't want to ruin people's games, but your content helps keep me in touch, thanks!

[@potmki6601]

I love your rants and editing just kills me further

[@lucayaki]

Yuumi is technically a Yordle, so it hasn't been *that* long without yordles

[@ChaDanno]

Old voli used to be great for anti dashing, and then they reworked him and added more mobile champions. I miss old voli 🥲

[@mobiust708]

Back in the day, and I mean before Riot called season 1, season 1, the time where even urgot was a new champ, here was a list of the "mobile" champs. Warwick cause flash into point and click ult, udyr cause movement speed, amumu cause bandage toss, kass cause kass, sivir cause ult, akali cause ult, katarina cause resets, etc etc. Back then, all it took for a champ to be "mobile" was the ability to have at least 1 solid way to boost their movement speed or close/open the gap. Current league? Sivir would never be considered "mobile". When irelia came out, there was a pretty huge outcry because we saw a champ with a huge amount of stuff in her kit, plus easily spammed low cost mobility. We all warned riot that if they kept making champs like that, with so much mobility, they would completely overshadow all current non-mobile champs. And oh look, pretty much every single old non-mobile champ has needed extensive reworks to be made relevant or has needed massive number/item buffs.

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

Funny because old Irelia isn't as fucked as the current iteration. Irelia still functioned as a diver. She can't reset if she doesn't kill.

[@sebawuba8533]

Even then, I feel like controlled mobility creep is necesarry to make a game fun. Old league, as much as everyone's rose tinted glasses say otherwise, was objectively a pretty bad game compared to the current iteration. It looked like it was a generation behind, most movesets were super uninspired, etc. While riot has been going a bit overboard on the mobility lately, I feel like they're going in the right direction in terms of making their game...well... fun.

[@mobiust708]

@@sebawuba8533 I disagree. As one villain from a pixar film once said "if everyone is super, no one will be". Old league was not better or worse, it was different. The big plays back then were more often based on how well you could position yourself, or how well you could control vision. You had to be a truly good player to get major plays. Today? Kits hand feed you plays. No one is impressed when the zed or yasuo uses the obscene mobility and aspects of their kit to 1v2 an immobile adc and a supp without hard CC. When you watch old league clips where a kog is stutter stepping, dodging skill shots, and working multiple enemies down while maintaining perfect distance and positioning? That is impressive. "Fun" is subjective. The worst feeling is when you are beaten by a kit, and not the skill of the other player. That is what league is mostly these days. There is a reason why so many people play overloaded champs.

[@netesky1889]

"making zed a jungler." Me remembering zed came out with him being promoted as a mid-lane assassin and jungler.

[@Kisuke323]

As a zed player i have to say - yeah, Zed junge is a viable option. Just try it. It is fun ;)