What we know about the worldwide outages for industries using Microsoft

A technical problem that global cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike says it has identified in its software and is working to resolve is causing massive outages around the globe for businesses, airlines and people using Microsoft. CrowdStrike provides antivirus software to Microsoft for its Windows devices. CBS News senior transportation correspondent Kris Van Cleave has more on how airlines are responding to the outage and Jamil Jaffer, founder and executive director of the National Security Institute at George Mason University's Scalia Law School, joined CBS News to discuss how an incident like this happens.
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[@kuruptzZz]

The incompetence is staggering. I can't imagine anyone deploying an update like this affecting so many businesses, before testing it in a closed environment first

[@ricardodelacrvz1400]

it can be hacking we never know

[@ctakiute]

everything is planned. Microsoft shares didn't fall as it should.

[@kittyl7333]

And even if it's a hack the world will say it's not to avoid world wide chaos/ panic

[@onmywayto974]

I think it is a hack as well. When AT&T was hacked we didn't know until it was all said and done.

[@donaldcastillo2408]

There is so much incompetence in so many different industries, I'm wondering if it's all DEI hiring related 🤔

[@denzelwashington9012]

Now imagine if 45% of the population had neurolinks and an update like this went live lmao

[@Shaojeemy]

New fear unlocked

[@bigdreams5554]

Watch Ghost in the Shell. The future is coming

[@amarchowdary007]

Elon musk need to see this 😂

[@ellismarsalis6064]

@@amarchowdary007I’m sure he’s all over this. Taking notes. He will one day try to be the ultimate Sith Lord.

[@Castaway.....]

😂

[@Cakebattered]

CrowdStrike sounds like the name of a hacker group

[@kristenmarie9248]

🎯💯

[@peterdamian_7]

Beyblade buuuurrrsssstttt Quadstrike!

[@beckerlegjames]

😂. I was thinking the same thing.

[@midnightdaemon6844]

It's a magical name! Lol. 😂😂😂

[@lpk6372]

Cool name

[@manav.bathija]

Netflix gonna make a 8 episode show….😂

[@hond4h34d]

8 episodes of repeating the same 3 points over and over

[@lpk6372]

Mr robot already exists but it would be cool if we had a documentary on it

[@kd-123-kd]

the netflix ai is already working on the series, first episode comes out tomorrow

[@mpgingdl]

This is what happens when efficiency overrides resilience.

[@ricardodelacrvz1400]

thank god I bought some stock this morning before wall streets close

[@jurassicthunder]

that's what happens when everyone is dependent on only few big tech companies.

[@danc9440]

Over the past couple of decades, but especially true since 2010, large companies have put way to much emphasis on efficiency at the cost of quality and resilience. Short terms profits over long term stability!The way of the new world order. Sad but true...........

[@lpk6372]

Profits over professionalism

[@lpk6372]

​@@danc9440nothing new about that that has always been the goal of a certain kind of capitalism

[@levmoses742]

The price of monopolies. Seems having various contracted alternatives would be safer in some errors.

[@BrianButterworth-s4z]

So, if radio is down in places and emergency numbers are affected, then no body can know of a public emergency.

[@peterdamian_7]

😨

[@FireStick-nu4pn]

Crowdstrike also secures our elections. Let that sink in.

[@alphabanks]

My main concern is the emergency systems such as 911 and hospitals.

[@DavidRamos-sr8cx]

The price we are paying for making everything cloud. 😂

[@zfr33ze87]

And AI will only make it worse

[@thelonewrangler1008]

And allowing a small handful of companies monopolize everything

[@tylerwinters2237]

It has nothing to do with the cloud but go off

[@smonster]

it has nothing to do with "cloud". It's governments still relying on old Windows servers instead of Linux.

[@SupahGeck]

​@smonster it's not just old servers and it's def not just the government, considering we're talking about nearly every airline and several banks.

[@ckennedy1973]

A Skynet funding bill is passed in the United States Congress, and the system goes online on August 4, 1997, removing human decisions from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn rapidly and eventually becomes self-aware - T2 1991

[@ytzpilot]

Skynet is real

[@terranceaddison4599]

Looks we haven't learned a damn thing...

[@GrimGalore]

Perfect timing. God knows they needed something else to talk about.

[@zachcarter3186]

Getting tired of tornadoes ?

[@RiDankulous]

There’s so many repeated news stories about issues in the past and they’re just lame attempts to put news out, and recently it’s been about the assassination attempt, Biden, and then the Republican convention. I don’t click on anything about Republican convention. There’s nothing new coming out about the assassination attempt and nothing really knew about Biden and people called for him to step down as candidate so basically they are all boring topics

[@jeffdunnell6693]

Sweet diversion from politics

[@zachcarter3186]

@@jeffdunnell6693 Sweet diversion from those starving kids in Africa

[@anon69_q]

@@jeffdunnell6693 This has hurt a lot of powerful entities. If this was intentional, people will find out.

[@JustMonday-tu4rx]

I am just a simple PC user. But. This explanation doesn't make much sense. First - a trial run should be done the triple check whether the update is functioning correctly. Second, why is such update done at the same time around the globe? Doesn't make much sense to me. Which update is so urgent that not any possible error was calculated and considered?

[@kenmore01]

Agreed but I think the reason it's affecting all at once is because it's a cloud based service, so everything is dependent on it in real time. Hopefully it's a wake-up call.

[@JustMonday-tu4rx]

@@kenmore01 have no idea about that. Do you have an idea why out of 105 cloud available countries and 180 Microsoft available countries according to reports oy the US, Europe, Singapore and Hong-Kong are affected?

[@kenmore01]

@@JustMonday-tu4rx I believe it's because they all subscribe to this service which interacts in real time, but online. When they released their "update" which has a bug, they all downloaded it around the same time.

[@dagobello]

This is what you get when a cyber security degree takes 10 weeks.

[@bigdreams5554]

10 weeks? Mine is from watching KZbin videos

[@paulacastro5128]

Or allow one company to monopolize cyber security protections

[@MarkCams]

If you're on the field of programing, DOT, HASHTAG, SIGNS, SLASH, small things really matters.. don't ever forget that.

[@bigdreams5554]

Suddenly buying a NAS, physical media, knowing how to use a map and compass, and not being afraid to call someone instead of using Teams all day seems like a good idea

[@brianm2238]

starbucks couldn't even give me a hot coco this morning because their maker was down due to this...

[@HuplesCat]

It is a sign. Save the planet and your wallet and make your own at home

[@boyasia5874]

I brew my coffee at home, transfer the coffee in a Starbucks paper cup with cover..

[@goodone5590]

Who you think you are? Shame on you!​@@AnX8765

[@-AstroLogical-]

@@boyasia5874 😑

[@user-wf8ol5hv6k]

Oh No! What will you do? How will you ever manage

[@RickG-o6c]

They call it a blue screen of death, but dont worry about it. 🤔

[@joesterling4299]

BSOD is a Windows term that goes back decades. It just means that Windows itself crashed. That's what bothers me the most. Why is the operating system (Windows) crashing because of a bad Crowdstrike update? The OS should never crash. This points to a flaw in Windows, in addition to a bad CS update that should never have been deployed without initial testing in a closed environment.

[@redburban1394]

Skynet is waking up.

[@chi-jenyang9752]

In the future when AI is widely adopted everywhere, AI will have no difficulty in wiping out humanity.

[@johnl.7754]

But will probably have less human errors as we are facing now

[@bigdreams5554]

It's already here.

[@lpk6372]

Good all for the Rich's profit margin fk humanity if we couldn't be a better species then what we have now

[@veramae4098]

This is why SkyNet will never happen.

[@davidpecchia2961]

We seem to be doing a well enough job on our own. Relying too much on technology.

[@pauleades9037]

Demonstrates the importance of resilient business continuity planning and the dangers of over reliance on digital systems without the analogue backup of critical systems.

[@jonstirling9169]

Did someone not check this deployment at small scale first? I’m having trouble believing this.

[@LaughingPyrate]

This isn't the first time a bad update downed a lot of systems. It's just that usually when this sort of thing happens it's a little smaller scale and less noticeable to the public.

[@meoff7602]

This isn't something you want happening under your watch. Alot money was lost today. Law suits will be filed.

[@flynnstone3580]

How many people over 50 remember life being much better before the Internet?

[@zachcarter3186]

The 80s were a long time ago

[@flynnstone3580]

@@zachcarter3186 not really, you'll see.

[@mrbob19561]

I do.. less stressful I'm 69

[@XirevWoW]

There are also over twice as many people nowadays than 50 years ago. Computers make everything more efficient.

[@realgtasacramentodashcam7292]

The internet was around in the 1980s and before but computers were considered nerdy and geeky and if you were into them you were picked on.

[@jmacdono]

The caption for this video makes it seem like this is somehow a fault with Microsoft. It's not - it's 100% the fault of CrowdStrike and its issuing this update without (apparently) properly testing it.

[@dabrams84]

Which news site do you suggest for me to read more?

[@TAELSDOLL]

ikr. its cause no one knows who crowdstrike is and putting it on the title gives less clicks. disgusting human behavior

[@olympian3]

It’s the fault of Microsoft for relying on them!

[@syuaip]

​@@olympian3You dont know what you are talking about.

[@50PullUps]

You said it J-man!

[@cynthiaslater7445]

In the end, the consumer will pay. Whatever happened to risk management?

[@kristenmarie9248]

😂 That's the agenda plot! 🎪🎬💡

[@earthwormjim6962]

This is what happens when you relentlessly lay off thousands of expert employees in favour of "AI" out of pure greed.

[@mirandatarantella]

Bingo!

[@djsatan88]

Crowdstrike seems to have such an excellent QA team.

[@Anthony-dj4nd]

Y2K24

[@kh5603]

Spiral of History

[@albertoserrano67]

Lol 24 years in the making😂

[@hannacook859]

1970

[@timothyslaughter476]

Y2KPOINT24KYJELLY

[@huudang3419]

Microsoft must explain and with proof 'exactly what Crowdstrike does in Microsoft Operating System'!

[@frankcolliton10]

Sarah Connor, we need you !

[@theartsyintuitive]

Payroll with adp was messed up at work no one got paid today.they said monday

[@wanderlust0120]

Crowdstrike's new motto: What goes around comes around

[@kdftrwz6276]

It’s Skynet !😱

[@MyTwoCents2]

The terminator has entered 😎

[@bigdreams5554]

Yup. Weakest link in our security chain: software updates!!

[@groomerkiller3947]

We are not dead yet. Chill!!!

[@redavis6581]

Life's become the film Idiocracy within a southpark skit.

[@majortom8047]

I spent many years in the IT world. I have one big question: Was this software tested thoroughly before installing, or was it a rushed mistake?

[@Sacto1654]

It came down to the fact we had a spectacular _single-point_ failure that took down much of the Internet. This is going take at least a day to resolve as Crowdstrike pushes out a corrected update to their anti-malware systems.

[@olympian3]

This is caused by over reliance on one operating system. These companies need to switch to linux distros.

[@XerrolAvengerII]

the bigger problem is the bad crowd strike update prevents machines from getting a new corrected update without direct intervention by a technician on each machine. it's going to take a lot of labor hours to hand hold every single device affected.

[@malavoy1]

This isn't a Microsoft problem, it's a problem with Crowdstrike, an antivirus sold to business's.

[@F40-c4i]

Exactly it’s an dev/IT issue with too many services using the same service.

[@merrillslaven6921]

The issue is not with Microsoft computers. It is with the outside security company creating bad code.

[@chrisgast]

If I was an administrator, I wouldn't work for an employer that insists on sticking with Microsoft for the long haul. I may not be an administrator, but at least I still have my sanity and dignity.

[@ronaldschultenover8137]

This did not happen in the past lets go back

[@puffito23]

Did you try unplugging the device and plugging it back in?

[@tpliscon4662]

Does anyone really except anything less in this day and age? The almighty dollar is driving humaity into the ground quite literally.

[@Cukito4]

What does "except anything" mean?

[@tpliscon4662]

@@Cukito4 it means just that, "expect anything" in today's world.

[@JadeTheCatt]

All of the gas stations are down

[@OM-bs7of]

Switch to Linux. Less headache, more stability

[@VictorEstrada]

this is what happens when organizations don't do proper controlled patching. I'm sure this shed some light at each organization, including Microsoft, because their Azure/ M365 apps were affected.

[@whatdoyouwantfromme1029]

What idiots came with the idea to let the whole systems in the whole world run by computers ❓😑🤷🏻‍♂️👎🏻

[@bmwlover56]

Because it's cheaper than people. Greedy profits over people, duh

[@whatdoyouwantfromme1029]

@@bmwlover56 you are so right 👍

[@whatdoyouwantfromme1029]

@@AnX8765 exactly 👍

[@zachcarter3186]

Your grandparents

[@whatdoyouwantfromme1029]

@@zachcarter3186 NAH!!👎🏻😑

[@williamd7161]

This is what happens when you monopolize cyber security!

[@synchronistory]

Here's what's going on in the much larger context. There's a remarkably intense planetary configuration in the astrological and astronomical sense, that indicated a series of intense energetic dynamics occurring during around this very period. From seismic activity to technology to overheated tempers to geopolitical and very "head"y leadership dynamics (e.g. "the bullet") ... even to meteoric occurrences (the extraordinary meteor crossing the midday sky in NYC the other day). Pam Gregory is a world-class astrologer and many others have also noted this configuration in the July charts. In other words, it's bigger than just what the media understands. It's actually "heavenly", but also worth noting and not overdramatising. Try to surf these energy waves with as little drama and as much compassion as possible because Earth is alive, and at the affect of cosmic vibes :-).

[@dastrnad]

Where’s the TLDR summary 😂

[@kajojo2399]

What you can find beyond the powers of my Stand is where you need to go in order to find Heaven. What you need is a trustworthy friend. He must be someone capable of controlling his own desires. He must be someone who is not interested in political power, fame, wealth, or sexual desire, and who chooses the will of God before the law of humans. What I also need is the lives of more than 36 humans who have sinned, because those who have sinned harbor a strong power within. There are 14 phrases that one must keep in mind. I'll engrave these words onto my Stand so I won't forget them. What is most necessary is "courage"; I must have the courage to destroy my Stand momentarily. As it disintegrates, my Stand will absorb the souls of the 36 sinners and will give birth to something utterly new. Whatever is born will "awaken". It will show interest in the 14 phrases that my trusted friend will utter... My friend will trust me and I will become his "friend". Lastly, I need an appropriate location. North latitude, 28 degrees, 24 minutes, West longitude 80 degrees, 36 minutes... Go there and wait for the New Moon... That's when Heaven will come.

[@synchronistory]

@@dastrnad good one😅 (only meant for folks bored waiting on lines with no internet connection to read it lol)

[@dastrnad]

@@synchronistory well, I gotta say I loved the last sentence!

[@olympian3]

Yeah there’s two full moons in Capricorn this cancer season, had somebody say everything that kicked off four years ago is finally wrapping up

[@yesterday1396]

Another sign that we're deep in the late stage capitalism era.

[@angelasoWA]

It’s not Microsoft, Crowdsource software installed on Windows did an update that messed up.

[@Saikat452]

Why the name is CROWD STRIKE...

[@vintran9777]

That's the result, when all the eggs are in one basket.

[@FireStick-nu4pn]

Crowdstrike also secures our elections. Let that sink in.

[@mjblue84]

WHAT???????????

[@_Just_Another_Guy]

And still Microsoft will continue to push their annual subscription services for everyone of their softwares. Remember when you bought Microsoft Office and can actually open and use Word or Excel without signing up for a subscription service?

[@50PullUps]

Yeah but the problem at hand is CrowdStrike’s fault, not Microsoft’s.

[@xzaviertariq5692]

If only it wasn't a completely separate entity that released an update that crashed windows computers. And the only windows computers that crashed are if you pay for the service that crowd strike provides, and apply the latest update, your computer will crash. This is not Microsoft's fault at all I don't understand why we keep on thinking it is. Microsoft already has their own antivirus that doesn't crash their computers called Windows defender. Crowd strike is a third party antivirus that you have to pay a separate entity to use. This is not a Microsoft problem This is a crowd strike bringing their customers down problem

[@PHARA0H]

I just wanted to point out that they dont say blue screen of death.

[@Craigreagormusic]

The guy in the interview did. I hate that term.

[@soulchorea]

yeah, the fact that the error happens on a blue-colored screen doesn't mean it's *the BSOD, in the classic sense. But everyone has used that term for any blue error for decades so it's a tough battle to pick at this point lol, waste of energy. But it secretly drives me nuts tho

[@AlabamaSkunkApe]

I seriously doubt this issue was simply a mistake in the update code. They are likely hiding something far more ominous.

[@esghsepro]

I tend to agree...I am no tech person, but a simple update won't go against the building foundation of the system and interact this violently. Food for thought....how vulnerable we are in today's world

[@Augfordpdoggie]

yes. just wait to see how much is missing from your bank account

[@esghsepro]

​@@Augfordpdoggie hope not 😢

[@PhrontDoor]

It was easily identified as a bad channel file in the update. Nothing 'ominous' ya pinhead.

[@proxy3386]

@@PhrontDoor yeah

[@cultytalk]

What a curious company name "Crowd - Strike" hmm. And they want a cashless system 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@JudiStewe]

Oh the cashless token system!!! At least right now I could go give my neighbor 2.00 and get 6 eggs to cook with if I needed. Cash will always be around!

[@DREWDOWN3]

I was stranded at the airport. I tried to book a hotel in the meantime, but hotels are having issues too. Tried to rent a car, couldn't do that either. It's a mess.

[@nkd8074]

And so it begins

[@veramae4098]

This is why "SkyNet" will never happen

[@Pure_Presha]

Wasn't Kaspersky recently banned in the US too?

[@user-wf8ol5hv6k]

Yes. Guess the gov wishes to rely on Norton. The company that installs a backdoor on its users machines.

[@GivePeaceAChance12]

As a systems analyst we always did a notified release, first to 1 or 2 of each unique tyoe of site, then major rollout with notification!!!!! How the eff is this going on?!?!?!? And its always been know that windows is so huge and prone to bugs!!!

[@dhananjay8730]

Crowdstrike is now named cloudstrike.

[@Cukito4]

He said it! 2:02

[@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394]

I smell Mr Robot.

[@nolanpolansky]

yayayayay…. so sad that it will happen but only in the benefit for the rich.

[@ps9469]

Is this the future of consolidated cloud services, a single update (sorry, glitch) takes out the planet? What is that old saying something about putting all your eggs in one basket?

[@jdanon203]

Basically. But just think of how awesome the "everything as a service" model is and how much money a handful of IT companies will make!! So what your life will markedly shittier, but won't anyone think of the quarterly profit margins?

[@olympian3]

Yes, it is

[@bobbullethalf]

Glad I’m not flying today.

[@jinzom2600]

Ain't nobody applying to work at crowdstrike now. Nobody wants to be associated with them right now

[@justmejenny7986]

Exactly why I still have a landline phone and keep cash on me. Also food, water and necessary items for a month. You learn as you go. After a couple of emergencies and going without power made me start doing things a little different.

[@abgzulkifli]

Who wants a cheese burger

[@deathcannibal13]

I want a chicken sandwich

[@terranceaddison4599]

With some BBQ sauce and some waffle fries

[@jacobchitwood4365]

This isn't just some mistake. Why tf is no one taking this seriously?

[@marklomonaco8308]

because it IS a mistake.

[@MatchaCocoaDog]

@@marklomonaco8308 That's the official "story"!

[@jacobchitwood4365]

@marklomonaco8308 how? There are procedures that are implemented to prevent this. It doesn't just happen.

[@esghsepro]

I tend to agree...I am no tech person, but a simple update won't go against the building foundation of the system and interact this violently. Food for thought....how vulnerable we are in today's world

[@RawkLobstah88]

​​@@jacobchitwood4365 If a company is doing their due diligence? No, this doesn't just happen. But CrowdStrike didn't do their due diligence. They didn't properly test. They didn't roll out the update in waves. They didn't allow IT for companies to test before installing onto workspaces or machines. This is CrowdStrike not doing what they were supposed to do. It's not a cyberattack, this isn't a security concern; this is just a buggy patch. It's just such a buggy patch that there will probably be laws made about this, on top of the probably trillions that will be sued for.

[@Tobazhniazhi]

It has begun......

[@matthewsocal2540]

If questioned, what would you say if your answer was literally your job security?

[@theeTJ]

Me, an IT professional for over a decade, sitting at home with a CB radio and telecom/POTS tools in my closet! 😂😎

[@LeoValencia-zo6pt]

This looks like a test run. Hopefully we did not use Microsoft operating systems for everything. We arent that dumb right?

[@50PullUps]

You mean CrowdStrike. Microsoft isn’t to blame (in this case)

[@X_crypto1977]

No one company should be have the capability and ability to make this much of a MESS!!!!

[@UnitedCorporationsOfAmerica]

Oh, please. More distractions.

[@mytamal123]

There was no need for Elon to make comments on Microsoft, let him make cars worthy of China and India.

[@gfish9636]

Hear ya big baby 🍼 ...you sound hangry

[@selanryn5849]

@@gfish9636 Here*

[@Palenque_pupikaka]

Only china 😂 not India India demands Quality and class Thats the reason indians are not much into the box buggies running on batteries

[@johnmccormick3147]

This is just the beginning. If you think This is going to keep going you don't know what is going on.

[@Ryan_Christopher]

I dabbled in Ubuntu 14 years ago just to give new life to an old Win98 Compaq Presario laptop, then forgot all about it several years later. Looks like I’ll have to brush-up on that know-how.

[@AmriTarsis]

Great News Update !!!! Perhaps in addition to Cyber Security You should also engage Risk Managers for the discussion. it is technically impossible to avoid 100% any technical failure. What happened today was just the manifestation of the worst case in a regular risk analysis

[@ezmillrezmillr1065]

What's their backup plan. This was bound to happen. They need to have land lines in place just for this reason. The computer hackers are getting out of hand.

[@skyMcWeeds]

Linux supremacy

[@francislalhmuakliana766]

I second this!

[@TrueMystique]

I third this notion!

[@pranjalindurkar3599]

I fourth this!

[@awesomereview2358]

I fifth this

[@Castaway.....]

NICE!

[@fred8174]

Was the update tested before release? If not, why not?

[@DRventura333]

As layman with no technical background, one would presume with any new "update" one would use it in a phased and with some test live systems before it is massly distributed. Would this not be possible with whatever this update was? Major systems seem to have been affected, critical systems like 911, medical databases, people's online bank account, airline ticketing system, people's home systems, etc,. This is very dangerous as who knows what else might be affected and further ramifications. There are already too many data breaches causing many Americans major financial issues/losses. Do Americans now need to be worried about IT companies causing issues with regular system updates?

[@minhluu5953]

What idiots at Crowdstriker launch this update without testing it first.

[@trvst5938]

‼️ The result of monopolization. ☝️

[@rkw2917]

The tos is pretty clear "Do not use this software for anything important, no guarantees"

[@Paul_425]

Human error when setting up automation. Now they need to roll back to the previous version and that usually leads a mess and loss data.... Rolling back software after an update can be really tough. It often means dealing with data incompatibilities, potential bugs, and loss of new features. Plus, it can disrupt users who are already adapted to the new version. It's like trying to undo a big change without messing things up even more.

[@Cukito4]

Why are you NOT specifying Microsoft Windows computers that have CrowdStrike installed?

[@keysglim]

We shall be asking ourselves, how to contain this domestic only, instead of the world wide issue.

[@TMac-g8p]

If all internet goes away.. then the only way we make money is drilling. The only way we pay for things is either goods or cash. Dont rely on tech

[@solidorsharp3091]

Likewise, legal offices. Cyber security ?

[@50PullUps]

This isn’t a cybersecurity incident. Someone (or a team) at CrowdStrike really, really messed up. Incompetence, and not guided action, led to where we are.

[@magnusharrison2715]

We Mac users don't have to be bothered by crippled software

[@Annewelch435]

A wakeup call that there is something coming. When the electric grid is down and food chain becomes completely broken then there will be real panic😮

[@MrXeroliphe]

It's not a Microsoft error I wish they would get actual technical people to report this instead of a bunch of clueless producers, they sound ignorant.

[@kristenmarie9248]

5:45 💡🎯💯 And, THERE'S THE DISTRACTION! 😂

[@waynebrady7439]

Why bother commenting they remove them and say it's hate speach

[@zachcarter3186]

Sure they do

[@user-pd8ko4yl6v]

Glad I''m using Linux 🥰

[@icomment2226]

How do we protect ourselves from a *real cyber attack* while everything is offline? I.E., when “the thing” that is supposed to protect us is not protecting us, ...., then what/who does the protecting?

[@Adornments4U]

Microsoft has been forceing downloads, shutting off devices, unable to turn >sign in

[@rinsomatic9295]

I'm both MAC and PC user, still I can't work with my MAC, cos all data are on the server, and server shut down as well. No point. I can only access internet. I have half day watching youtube at work for my amusement.😂

[@dontblameme6328]

Mac users never do any real work anyway.

[@chandler6869]

Make it the whole day. This may take days to fix