What Went Wrong with Dragon's Dogma 2's PC Port?

What exactly is happening with Dragon's Dogma 2 on PC?
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[@flamingburritto]

After Cyberpunk. I've made it a habit to buy games 6 months after release minimum. You get it for cheaper and after patches in a better state. Hasn't failed me yet.

[@hxppythxughts7149]

Lmao I bought cyberpunk over 3 years after it released. Maybe I'll do the same with dogma 2.

[@howie3601]

That's a good decision. This game is worth the wait, and you have something to look forward to. I'm almost 30 hours in, and I'd highly recommend the game.

[@LuvLie999]

Since mafia 3 I wait for game of the year or the definitive... I rather wait for all the dlc and patches in stead of playing a game for them to update 3 months later with everything that should of been in the game already

[@denism.2590]

didn't have a rig to play it on release, so 100%ed it just a few months ago, on a max dif it was pretty fun, but worse than witcher 3 :)

[@bakester55]

Honestly. Cyberpunk was the last release date purchase I've made with the exception of Armored Core 6 and buying the premium edition upgrade for Starfield because I was playing that through game pass. Which that decision even still came back to bite me because I have no intention on ever playing Starfield again lol. Makes no sense to buy day one anymore.

[@shivamkhichar6095]

Company: releases game Modders: improve it Company: bans them ..

[@d1gw33d]

Except.. that's made up bullshit.

[@termnus77]

Publishers ego's are too fragile to accept that fans and the public are able to do a better job than the people they pay to make the products 😅

[@natel7382]

Company: sells mtx for better fps

[@jeremyvolsche6590]

@@user-rd8vm3lh2p why? Mods are one of the best things about PC gaming. I play a lot of Darkness Falls, which is a 7 Days to Die mod. I don't see why you want to punish me for having fun.

[@DipJyotiDeka]

​@@user-rd8vm3lh2pit's called minding your own business, sir.

[@thisusedtobemyrealname7876]

Adopt this mindset: Actual release date is 6 months after the beta test (corporate release date). The price of this beta test is also higher than the actual release date. So weird!

[@noahradford9218]

😂 that sarcasm got me but it's so true 😂

[@bhuvangunessee]

so what's early access? unpaid work that you paid to do!

[@chrisgeorgiou301]

Or just straight up not buy the game at all and give them 0 money so they finally listen. You can easily pirate the broken half assed pos game they gave out.

[@raytharude7670]

Doubt youll do this when gta6 comes out

[@bhuvangunessee]

@@raytharude7670 I finally played GTA 5 last year. Still haven't bought/started Cyberpunk2077. And both had been on my wishlist for years. Don't worry, GTA 6 will be same for me.

[@OnZyy]

If the game's stuttering and crashing on 4090 then what I want to know is what kind of system were the devs testing the game during development. Cuz how could they see the game fit to be released

[@hathbeenslain]

well, the game is good enough on consoles and they’re not gonna have a separate PC release just because the port sucks so 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@OnZyy]

@@hathbeenslain yeah but still they shouldn't have rushed to the release the pc port just yet if they knew the kind of problems it had. Somewhere around a million copies of the game must've been sold on pc by now and none of them would've enjoyed the game without stuttering or even crashes for some.

[@alexgalays910]

The game doesn't release when the devs and QAs find it fit for release though. They have little power in big corpos.

[@hathbeenslain]

@@OnZyy I agree that in an ideal world, it wouldn’t have been rushed out like this. but as another commenter said, it’s really the publishers who decide when something is to be released, not the devs

[@dexter5653]

I've got a 4090 and I've had ZERO issues with the game, so seeing videos like this has confused tf outta me

[@fariskhalifa8403]

I was watching a dev talked that said the RE engine wasn’t built for big open spaces filled with NPCs. It really shows.

[@dongarippo7279]

CAPCOM didn't have enough time and money to do that research before developing the game :)

[@willowispgaming1995]

U might be right. I played RE 4 remake and it was barely 60 fps on ultra for my pc. And that game was linear af

[@alexoelkers2292]

I think it probably had to do with the Denuvo DRM they put on top of the game. Thats why the game ran fine in the open world on console, was still a bit slow in cities, but once they put Denuvo on top of the game it crippled it especially in cities. Denuvo has been known to do this to games in the past but publishers still love it because its hard to crack. Games make the most money shortly after release, by the time it is cracked the game has been out for a while. Edit: Check out the Digital Foundry video on KZbin wjem they tested Resident Evil Village with and without Denuvo.

[@JogBird]

@@alexoelkers2292 omg, i tried Elden Ring on PC and the game wouldnt load because of the anti-cheat, had to refund, they even had nerve to county my attempts to load the game as time spent playing

[@FrozenAXL]

I wonder... could be bad optimization, I don't know how we could tell. Moreover, I don't have much understanding in the technical stuff, but the fact the city NPCs tank performance to that level is suspicious. It's either something else (Denuvo?) or really amateurish programming. This issue with the CPU seems bizarre...

[@denisruskin348]

You can’t justify this performance next to Forbidden West, which is actually a good port (Very rare).

[@yodatw]

Yeah Forbidden West and the games before it of that series have been glorious. They are smooth as butter.

[@J7T800]

What's rare is Nixxes botching a port. Ratchet and Clank was rough, but it got patched out quickly.

[@Hi12239]

Console master race

[@rektz2457]

Time to upgrade your pc bruh

[@puffie7825]

So far every pc port from playstation was pretty good from what I've seen. Well except for the last of us remake. That one had awful optimisation.

[@abhishekjain2444]

Talk about the cities skylines 2 disaster, especially after the jokingly absurd dlc. The whole community which had held hopes is so annoyed and angry at the devs. The whole game is mostly broken as of now, there's immense bugs, performance issues as well as the whole economic models not working. And then they suddenly drop a dlc for 10bucks with barely much content, especially infuriating when they offered such similar content, rather even more in 3 to 5 bucks and it came in a much better state. The audacity to charge so heavy and now paygating trees, (4 tropical trees....) which will help decorating and playing tropical maps can now be paywalled from maps requiring one to own the recent DLC. The DLC last I checked had 4% positive reviews out of nearly 600 people on steam. It's worth a story and how paradox is still tryna milk a lot and making disastrous decisions after decisions.

[@Geomazing963]

Very weird, over 60 hours in Dragon's Dogma 2 and I haven't had a crash or major stuttering issues that I've noticed (of which 50 hours were put in before the first patch). Idk if that's because I'm lucky or because my cpu is just that good but it's not a top end pc and when I upgraded the cpu I just picked an average one. Nothing really expensive. I did manually adjust the graphics after the introduction into the game to see if I could prevent any issues from popping up like adjusting ground clutter, shadows, clouds, and a few other things and never came across any issues. If I did they were negligible. The game didn't close for me once when I exited it and had to task manager it, that's about it for my issues.

[@jeremyf1901]

Critics need to add performance into their ratings. It’s misleading to give a game a high score that runs poorly.

[@wolfbrother9025]

Don't know what they are even talking about I'm having a blast on ultra settings no issues and all I got is a 4060

[@nathenbosher1067]

If you dont know why even comment lol

[@wolfbrother9025]

@@nathenbosher1067 because I'm trying to help the whole by figuring out where the problems are and in my setup I'm having none

[@Dragens2]

Problem is that as soon as you have a minimum 500 dollar cpu you will have good performancr. If journalists have those you won't get the reports

[@Jinkypigs]

​@wolfbrother9025 right so such part of what you said actually is of help to "figure things out". What a moron

[@exnozgaming5657]

You know what else eats up a LOT of CPU? Denuvo and Enigma. They should stop blaming all of it on the NPCs Also critics need to test games on mid range hardware. They be using top of the line PCs for review that can just brute force through any kinda unoptimized pile of shit and give it green light and normal people end up buying stuff they can't even run properly. Not everyone has a i9999 9999X CPU, XTX 9999 GPU, XXR99 99PB RAM PC.

[@kultur-vultur]

I agree that they should test on midrange cause not even half of pc gamers use high end hardware. Also complaining about frame rate for ten minutes but not showing a display capture with frame rate stats and averages is frustrating for me to watch.

[@jeremyvolsche6590]

Gamers Nexus tested it on all hardware, why you want to be subscribed to a channel like them. It's not the DRM, it's the NPCs. remove them and ther game is fine. I use a older i5 and it's playable in town. Check out the GamersNexus piece on it, has a lot of info in it.

[@Soapy_Papoose]

4090 life is good.

[@bobjoe5937]

This tbh.

[@Bambam-jg4vo]

My pc is mid as fuck, the game plays fine for me. Probably because I'm just built different.

[@thefallenone159]

After having a dragon plague wipe vernworth, performance felt good around the main town square but the closer I got to the morgue the worse it got. I dreaded every quest that had me go to the noble district or the castle as it was a guaranteed crash. The only question was how far I could walk in between manual saves.

[@smackssmacks1306]

There are a bunch of fixes for the town fps on Nexus Mods. Kinda hit or miss whether any single one will work for *you* or not, but it's worth trying some of them. I found one that completely fixed it for me, and the city runs at 120 locked now - however, the frame *timing* is still horrible, so it *feels* a little stuttery still.

[@PsychoRavager]

As a PC gamer, I rarely, rarely buy games on launch day. And this is just one of the many big examples as to why that's the case.

[@CheebsCheeby]

Yet, it's has 100000 + concurrent players on steam alone. Kind of wierd when to think about for someone capable of their own actual thoughts. You should try it. Highly reccomend.

[@konagirl805]

I'm the same. I usually buy new games a full year (sometimes longer) after their official release. That way, the game is the best it's going to be, there is plenty of info on the internet to make an informed decision to buy, and the game is still "new" to me since I've never played it.

[@dannylomacedo6951]

Yeah, same here. Also with the great reduction prices after a while the game launched

[@MercPunisher]

Yeah, I will let the desperate PC gamers guinea pig the games for me so I get a better experience. The fact I have to do that tells you the major issues with games these days, they gotta stop releasing badly optimized games, its getting ridiculous. Only one developer gets it right so far on PC, and that's Fromsoft. Day one games for me anyway.

[@KuueenKumi]

It's just smarter, as any kind of gamer, to wait. You save money (and frustration) in this expensive hobby that you can use for more games

[@beast6ft975]

It seems like all newer games are being released BROKEN

[@dongarippo7279]

We all gotta stop paying for broken products, myself included ofc! Steam won't refund you if the product get's broken after 2-3 hours, I think they can be somewhat nice below 3 hours still but.. After that they don't care much.

[@beast6ft975]

Even on console they're releasing unfinished product for $75 making pre-ordering any game worthless. Your better waiting til the game releases and goes on sale or 1/2 to 1/3 the price

[@TheRealUcanUwill]

@@beast6ft975 Speaking about consoles, what was even the point of new gen consoles, I mean beside taking our money? When we have game like this, which just by no means looks next gen whatsoever, but runs at best adequately, on NEW gen...? I thought next gen supposed to make a huge technological leap. So where is the fucking leap?

[@RAWBOT301]

There is a growing competency crisis due to hiring people based on how they look instead of merit.

[@mototoe]

​@@dongarippo7279they say only refunds up to 2 hours, but they'll give you one for 3 if your explanation is good

[@Bikewreck]

I usually don't notice when channels try to drag videos out to the 10 minute mark, but Gameranx is one of the exceptions

[@LokiofQ]

This is good to know, I was getting sorely tempted to buy this even at full price, giving it a bit more time to get working properly gives it a chance to go on sale, and I can go back and finish some of the stuff I never completed in the first game =)

[@SalKhayer]

Denuvo. It's Denuvo. This is the fkn problem, we can just say it. The game would run perfectly if it was a pirated copy, I guarantee it.

[@dongarippo7279]

What a failed release though, when people who bought the game looks forward to the pirated copy.

[@CartoonHangout]

Has anyone tested that?

[@rakuloe]

@@CartoonHangout People have tested the Steam vs GOG games (DMR free) on performance before. As well as bought vs pirated without Denuvo. Denuvo uses the CPU heavily and tanks the performance. If you add it last minute, without proper testing, it can turn into a performance hell like this.

[@TzarBomb]

Yeah, I can wait for the crack, my 3060 ti (+Ryzen 5 / 32gb) has no chance in hell of running DD2, especially with DENUVO.

[@ScentSense]

​@@TzarBombit actually does.. I have a similar setup with a laptop 3070Ti, AMD 6900HX and 32GB RAM and have a consistent 45-70 FPS with noticeable drops only in crazy fights or one specific city. 30 FPS actually feels decent in this game too for some reason, not nearly as bad as it does in some other games at least. Give it a shot, I'm having a great time with it.

[@alexoelkers2292]

It was the DRM on top of a game that was already a bit of mess in cities that completely screwed it up. Thats why early review copies weren't so bad. Denuvo has been known to do this to games in the past but publishers still love it because its hard to crack. Games make the most money shortly after release, by the time it is cracked the game has already been out for a while. Capcom has always put money before player experience.

[@dongarippo7279]

Kinda hurt reviewers credibility none the less.

[@gnomer87]

Interesting, were those review copies PC or console?

[@alexoelkers2292]

@@gnomer87 well gameranx said he reviewed it on PS5. That would explain why the PC was so much worse than the review copy.

[@alexoelkers2292]

@@dongarippo7279 wasn't really the reviewers fault. Gameranx said he reviewed it on a PS5 copy, normally they say what platform they review a game on. Reviewers did mention the 30 fps but had no reason to suspect it would get even worse on PC.

[@safwanconqurer5848]

Typical japanese corpo culture, fk Jap businesses, the national crying most.about honor seem to be the most devoid of it

[@Josufumi_4455]

He said 2 types of saving "auto saving and inn saving" but there is maneul saving in the system menu where you find your inventory

[@niknak0789]

Is that different to Juan time saving?

[@KineticTaco]

@@niknak0789took me a sec, but lol.

[@Not-Great-at-Gaming]

That's really just an "on demand" auto save. It over writes the auto save.

[@4ether607]

@@Not-Great-at-Gaming The inn saves also overwrite the auto saves though

[@Not-Great-at-Gaming]

@4ether607 Until you create another auto or manual save, then they are again separate. Providing you are not at an inn, you have 2 different save files at any given time; the auto/manual save and the most recent inn save (not 3 saves).

[@BahaaSoliman]

the only way for them to fix their framerate issues is literally through an operation called "GPU Instancing" (storing heavy and repetitive data on the GPU instead of the CPU, because the CPU isn't designed to handle that kind of problems). I haven't tackled into this system yet, but from a glimpse, I can tell you it won't happen overnight... I bought an asset for this specific issue when developing my own project, and... let's just say... it's 4000+ lines of code long :)

[@SalKhayer]

Falcon breaking down the etymology of "Save" has to be my new favourite thing. Please, more Etymology with Falcon segments.

[@haydennn1]

This was my favourite part too [':

[@TheShawnMower]

Lol yes!

[@baronvonslapnuts]

$95 CAD. Glad I waited. I'll grab it at 50% off or when someone cracks the Denuvo it came with.

[@swampssa]

Just wait a few years and you’ll be able to buy the “complete edition” for like $20. Maybe then the game will be fixed.

[@lanceh.2286]

For the Denuvo part we will have to wait much much longer. From what I read, there is only one guy who does crack denuvo but sadly he is busy with something else and also way up his high horse to even consider cracking the game.

[@igottachangedmyname]

how about till they removed denuvo on their game

[@starjadiancloneinvestigato1772]

empress is being sued right now so don't expect anything new

[@marvelsProtege]

50% you'll be waiting until Skyrim 6

[@tiagox3275]

A few days after release a frame generation mod came out and fixed all my performance issues. Still waiting for Capcom to implement it officially in the game.

[@noelwheezy]

If you ignore all the problems and you really can as its only Vernworth city area that has problems, the rest of the game in my experience has been butter smooth at a 60 fps cap. That means where it matters, the open world, the dungeons, in combat, its all been super smooth for me. And the result of putting up with some stutter in the city is some of the most fun gameplay I've had in a long while. I'm at over 90 hours so far, trying to explore as much of the world as possible and find as much of the content as I can. I am loving it.

[@tacticaladobo8967]

The problem started when the steam page of DD2 came out and it was priced at $70 WITH NO REGIONAL PRICING. Everyone was complaining about the price for months before release especially those from 3rd world countries. Usually Capcom would price their new games at my country at $40. So that $70 price tag was shocking to a lot of steam users. When it came out and the PC version had poor performance and had microtransactions that was the final straw and people bombarded it with negative reviews. If Capcom had added regional pricing I'm pretty sure people would complain less about the state of the game and it probably would have around 70% - 80% positive reviews. Capcom got greedy and they got what they deserve.

[@TaterSaladSandwich]

Dragons Dogma 2 is honestly one of the most refreshing, creative, and innovative RPGs I have ever played in my life. The dynamic damage systems with limb/organ disabling on certain creatures, the ability to use ogres as bridges, etc. I haven't played the first game, but I can safely say Dragons Dogma 2 is now one of my favorite RPGs of all time... ..when it works.

[@dongarippo7279]

Dragon's Dogma: dark arisen had all that too, except for ogres as bridges. Also dragon's dogma dark arisen actually runs. Not that big of a downgrade in graphics either imo. I mean while dragon's dogma 2 is better looking it's only as good as dragon age: inqusition. Not even better looking than witcher 3.

[@phillab4491]

Okay bad game

[@UniverseGlider2]

Same. I’m 30 hours in and having a blast. I won’t excuse the whole micro transaction thing but they’re something I couldn’t really care less about so I’m still having a blast. Plus the game honestly runs fairly ok on my setup. Running about 80-90 fps everywhere except a few town areas and when action gets super intense

[@Jodariel.]

Yeah, they did all that 12 years ago and failed to actually let people play the game in 2024. Lmao

[@TaterSaladSandwich]

@@dongarippo7279 I haven't gotten to the point in the game where being in the city is an absolute necessity, but once I do I might give Dark Arisen a try 🤣

[@JonoLB]

Yeah really the only fix for the game right now is using frame gen. 40 series cards can use Nukem’s mod, and everyone with 20 or 30 series can use Nukem + DLSS to FSR3 switch mod. Makes it perform WAY better with minimal input lag.

[@TheDreamN]

Honestly, I played since day 1 with a 4070 and a ryzen 9, I experienced quite a few frame issues. But never crashes, also the save thing was never an issue because I accessed the game/save files as soon as I thought it might be an issue. I am now at 90+ hours and enjoying every bit of it. I hope they add more content and do some qol adjustments.

[@faithlessarv]

Finally a real good review/take. it's literally the performance that tanked the reviews. T he Microtransactions is basically pay for convenience but not really needed. It shouldn't exist though for the price we pay and for a singleplayer.

[@grantjones1299]

Love yalls videos, as usual. Glad you guys are always transparent in your content. Keep it up gameranx, we love u guys

[@cocoxcocoa]

The PC port was very weird, because I have a 4090 and an 12700k, 32GB ram, and was able to run it flawlessly at ultra settings, 1440p, 32:9, with no performance issues or crashes (which is exactly what I would expect any game to be able to do with those specs). But my friend, who has basically the same specs as me, wasn't even able to play it stably at 1080p on a normal 16:9 monitor with medium settings. So I suspect this is a problem with the engine they are using, rather than the actual PC port itself. Although the PC port defiantly needed some more tweaking

[@louisday6252]

I'm surprised by all of the pc port issues people are having because I only have an R7 processor and 3060ti graphics card but haven't had any frame rate or crashing issues at all with all graphics settings on ultra.

[@retrohollandia]

I don't understand these situations; Do the issues not come up in playtesting, or they do, but are ignored and it's pushed out the door anyway?

[@boostio_music]

I have to assume it's them ignoring it. (at least in the obvious ones, like dd2) Because a lot of these games, the issues are very present the first day of release, for the majority of people. I don't see how companies spending years making a single game wouldn't know about a super obvious issue.

[@silverheart7964]

March is the end of the Japanese fiscal year. They clearly had a deal with the punlishers/people with the money, that they had to have it out by the end of the fiscal year. So it was unfinished with lots of corners cut because they clearly realised earlier in development that it wasn't going to be done. They were absolutely ignoring it and said "we can patch it later." Some games get delayed at this point for a better release but not this time. And then they sold it to people for a premium price.

[@hotpockets69]

​@@silverheart7964honestly, it's your own fault as a braindead consumer for buying games just because they get high scores rather than because they genuinely look interesting to you.

[@YourAverageG]

One complaint is the story was unfinished. I mean i was so excited to get to the new region and then i realized the story was at 50%

[@SilverDreamweaver]

They literally just dropped it the moment you walked through the checkpoint gate. Thankfully this is a gameplay-focused game, so it doesn't bother me too much. But this writing it sequel trilogy tier of absolutely horrible, lol.

[@andaysha17]

You are wrong, u need to use the the sword you get from the fist arisen, and use it once you get to the final boss dragon, climb to his heart and use the sword as an item. It will take you to the actual end game, called the unmoored world

[@YourAverageG]

@@andaysha17 dude...I know...I did it....again it was all over the place...the story of this universe is really really interesting....the execution though is so bad...they clearly cared for the gameplay and combat not the story..also pls most animations are exactly as the first one...also I would love a background to why the hell are we kings of a kingdom? Maybe I'm asking too much I know but I want to see for once a story with minute details. Probably better to read books like storm light archive

[@kenpachi1989]

I can live with that in a game with really good gameplay, but it will always be less than the masterpiece it could have been (not that it's the only issue the game has, but it's obvious they barely tried to write a coherent story).

[@YourAverageG]

@@kenpachi1989 yeah I had I fun too like 50 hours of game time. But come on why companies don't want to make masterpieces whene they have the chance. This could be the ultimate medieval rpg fantasy and they screwed up with the shit story

[@graystreak8312]

I used to work as PC / Third Party Compliance Tester for a major publisher: Bugs for consoles are easier to ID and fix since the hardware doesn't change and has limited variations. i.e. PS4 / PS5. Also, Console OEMS (Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft) have minium standards for UX, Framerates, Accessiblity, etc - if those fail your game can't ship on their platform. PC is the exact opposite - there are thousands of comibinations of hardware and no one gatekeeping quaility - So instead of investing like 100k into hardware every year and putting more folks into their PC Compat teams, they sit back, wait for the error logs to roll in and do patchs. btw, if you patch a game too much on console, you will get booted - like with cyberpunk. Lastly, I am not saying this is a good thing. it is terrible - best practice is to wait a month before playing the game and if you can buy them on discount.

[@adam-pr3ld]

I'm debating about this . I love the gameplay and the mechanics but never played the first one . What are peoples thoughts apart from performance issues which we all know would get sorted

[@WaldoIsMissing]

Campaign is shockingly short as well. I was really surprised at how quickly it ended. Yes, there’s the third option, but that barely has anything either. Word of advice, if you play, do not bumrush the campaign. It’ll be over before you know it

[@blu3dr4gon-e-d]

That is a big disappointment. Guess I'll wait 2-3 years until denuvo is removed to try the game out.

[@xblastyolo]

You need to explore more...there are main quest and side quest..if u just focus on the main quest then u will finished it sooner..I believe there are 2 ending..and I heard the true ending was way better..oof

[@JonathanJ159]

If you rush itll take around 20-30 hours but if you actually do quests and just explore i feel like you could stretch it to 70-90 hours, i feel like this game is filled with optional stuff which im not sure is good of bad since you might miss it but its also not drawn out with filler

[@aaronhumphrey3514]

I'm 40 hours in and I'm not even close to being done. Why would anyone "bumrush the campaign" in a game like this?

[@theguitarexplorium]

I dont understand this, I'm 80 hours in and still got stuff to do 🤷‍♂ You know this isnt tiktok - you're allowed to take your time!

[@Zathren]

My boy got it on the PS5 and he was happy with it. I'm going to wait till Christmas and get it on sale. Steam doesn't mess around with its sales. 😅

[@Vandakai]

I have been one of the few PC players that have had almost 0 issues outside of a lil bit of a dip in FPS in Vernworth and that is just going in but after a min there is no issue, and I am running it on a 3070 and a I9-10900k. I did turn my Nvidia card settings to Unlimited shader usage which did help as well also my PC is also liquid cooled so that helps too. The best performance for me happened when I turn the trees and grass down to low and shadows to max with shadow cache on but the shadows in the game have a MASSIVE pull-on system hardware from what I have messed with. That being said turning them down to anything lower than max actually gives me less FPS and the game looks very bad shadow wise if you do not have it on max cause the shadows can start bouncing all over the place crazily. That being said I have had a blast playing it and def think it's a great RPG underneath the optimization mess.

[@HenryAveretteIII]

7700x & 7900XTX here. I've experienced some slight slow down in the cities but nothing major. Definitely haven't had any crashes. Kind of weird that you had that kind of trouble on a 4090.

[@XiLock_Alotx]

So sad. Was the first game I’ve refunded on Steam in over a decade. Look forward to checking this out around the holidays during a sale and after multiple patches have gone out for it!

[@ihatezen]

Womp womp

[@railasvuo]

​@@ihatezen A 12 year old's bot comment

[@addex1236]

If your just going to buy it again why didn't you just keep it what you did is frankly stupid like I would get the I refunded It and therefore arent going to play it but what your doing is just dumb and wasteful

[@Jinkypigs]

Me too. But don't bet on discount as CAPCOM is a greedy bustard when it comes to discount

[@cabrelbeuk72]

Everyone has been quoting GPU but the real perf sink is in the CPU. My R7 7800X3D (with 3080 Ti) has been able to run a 45-60 at 4k for the very most of my current experience (about 60 hours), had maybe one or 2 drops in the whole playthrough (haven't finished btw).

[@aidantriantafillou2501]

You know I love Capcom for this because they put so much time into mechanics before graphics and regardless of my ability to not even play the game... Mechanics and CPU related game functions are what I tend to enjoy most about Capcom games in general. Monster hunter world had CPU usage issues when it was new and it's beautifly fleshed out now.

[@ThePyroMD]

I don’t get it. Why does PC consistently get such terrible ports?! I don’t even want to upgrade my computer anymore cause it doesn’t even matter!

[@GamingandFrightened]

Less and less people are playing on pc. Gives studios less incentive to make sure pc ports are excellent

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

​@@GamingandFrightenedeven if its true, it is huge miss opportunity .

[@dongarippo7279]

You only ever need to have a PC that is equal to a console. No need to buy 40x cards.. right now a 2070S will suffice for just about all. Of course higher is nicer and all but.. Not really needed. In general, I mean this game's release isn't how it usually goes. They can bug etc and get fixed but this is somewhat extreme.

[@DirranProductions]

Building an AMD monster rasterization rig to crush older games on my 1440p165 display. Most of the new fancy high graphics games have been a crapshoot, but it'll keep me up for AA and indie for a long time.

[@jeremyvolsche6590]

It doesn't. The issue is hate sells, and major games have a lot of attention on them. I have a midrange *on a good day* PC and never have issues. I don't even use any overclocking software or overlays. Yeah this game get's drops, not the end of the world IMO. Don't use your PC for dirty things, don't pirate, and keep your PC clean. All it takes.

[@Waynerock77]

I must be the lucky one. No weird crashes or bugs. It has been smooth sailing In 18 hours. Absolutely loving the game

[@Playradise]

Or a liar

[@justynashe]

Word me too

[@Shaved_Bunny]

Same here, weird that this game runs perfectly for me on 4k ultrawide, without dlss also no crashes and on PC

[@mine-tantrumgirl]

​@@Playradiseshut up bot their is Alot of people playing the game on PC an not having any problems so piss off.

[@Dwilly253]

Stop lying

[@jastyler1]

So far I am 18 hours in and spent plenty of time in Vernworth. I haven't experienced any crashes so far nor have I had any stuttering in game play. The only minor issue I have seen is NPC in the city will just suddenly appear in front of me. My hardware is no where near top of the line either. Intel Core i7-8700@3.20GHz NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 32 GB RAM In game graphics are all set on High with DLSS set to Quality. I have Upscale Sharpness and Image Quality both set all the way up. I also have got in the habit of setting a frame rate cap at 60 if the game allows.

[@BeardedMotawa]

no one would believe if I said i didn't have issues with cyberpunk at launch and dragon dogma. especially CP, I play the whole game, smooth fps above 160 fps mostly and never had a bug or crash. i was actually shocked when I saw people were having a lot of issues with it. dragon dogma mostly its around 70 fps for me except in the city and some places it gets around 40-50. keep in mind i always upgrade my pc to the latest hardware, but again games shouldn't be based on these setups.

[@BabuinYourArea]

Reason number 1:- Dragons Denuvo

[@d1gw33d]

The people most upset about Denuvo, are the broke ass people that weren't buying it anyway and are just upset they can't pirate it. Every time.

[@BabuinYourArea]

@@d1gw33d I bought the game? Lol

[@BabuinYourArea]

@@d1gw33d not everything is about piracy, denuvo is known for causing issues on a lot of games. Educate yourself

[@PeanutMike]

not to mention dd2 have 3 DRM. Denuvo, Enigma, and Capcom LOL

[@DirranProductions]

​@@d1gw33dI thought the whole argument with Denuvo was that the cracked version ran better than the legit one. Making people that paid for the legit one upset. I know a few companies just scrap it once copies start circulating so they keep their Day 1 sales intact, but people don't keep the perf penalties forever.

[@Sqwandle]

Once upon a time there was a man one time upon a time a long time ago

[@anon7596]

Back then it was but a prophecy, but now in the future the past has occurred.

[@BedBug1984]

Same issue that we had with Anthem, publisher forced a bespoke engine onto a game that's the exact opposite of what said bespoke engine was made for, so the dev team spent more time trying to make the engine work for the game they're trying to make, than making the game, ergo we had almost no game when it actually released. Then you add on intrusive, ancient and horrendously unoptimized DRM solutions that cause performance problems in every single game it exists in, and is, despite what people believe, not actually hard to crack at all.

[@eminencerain848]

It runs fine on my PC, the problem is people think you just need a high end GPU and forget about the rest of the system. Capcom says the game is CPU limited, that means the bottleneck is your CPU not your GPU. I have a good CPU and the game never goes under 50 FPS even in the city, it generally stays around 100 FPS.

[@gabe101science]

You can manually save. It's under System in the pause menu

[@VioletDolphin]

yup

[@James-kv3ll]

That’s just an “on-demand” auto save. It overrides your last auto save and is also overrided by your next auto save. It’s not a true save like BG3 or Skyrim has.

[@VioletDolphin]

@@James-kv3ll Capcom probably not gonna add those, :( sad.

[@James-kv3ll]

@@VioletDolphin It would be fine if the quests didn’t bug out sometimes and it inn saves weren’t so annoying (even when you get a house)

[@xenolithic9691]

None of my friends and I can play due to all the crashes. We all exceed the recommended system specs as well.

[@cylussaberwire207]

Honestly when i played the game on my PC I rarely had any issues. I would occasionally get a stutter here and there but no more than i would on almost any game. That is at least until a dragon magically spawned in Vernworth. That uh, that was an experience

[@adamlevi9295]

I played the game from day1, for me the performance wasn’t terrible but the dlss mode went out so fast and that helped a lot. The crashes though.. I’ve had an instance in a cave that a specific spot would just crash .. when I lowered the settings to low everything was fine, it’s clearly something with the graphics (the game would crash even without the dlss mode)

[@sageviper2981]

Hi Gameranx, happy Easter/ happy Sunday 😊

[@gameranxTV]

Hey

[@redmister42]

This game has been my crack for the last week

[@woosh1342]

hoping it does the same for me just got it last night lul

[@samuelkibunda6960]

20hrs in and i cant stop i love my pawn anmd other players pawns, just dicking around in the open world is glorious

[@samuelkibunda6960]

@@woosh1342 its a very specific taste but i hope you like it

[@ManinaCAGE]

For a game people can 100% in 30 hours... u must not play it alot.. or die alot.

[@brettfoss9318]

I'm 62 hours in and still finding stuff to do 😂

[@rnin5923]

It is abundantly clear that the gaming industry needs to do something.. You are not wrong this story is starting to come with nearly every major release it feels like.. Many games I've held off on buying just because of this very reason as a daily driver on the PC I look for the wisdom and great information that Gameranx provides great stuff again guys keep up the great work!

[@rahorin]

60 hours and still playing with zero issues for me. I'm on 1440p, max settings without FDR or Raytracing. Ryzen 5800X3D, RX7800XT GPU, 32G DDR4 3600. Slight noticeable lag Vernworth city but no lag spikes (more like your FPS gets cut in half).

[@korimiller379]

I've not had any crashes, though I have had two cases where launching just stalled before even getting to the opening menu. City performance does dip (NPCs just appear as I move), but I'm also not running at full bells & whistles as the machine is close to two years old so only at medium-high settings as opposed to bleeding ultra settings.

[@TamdinSol]

Same for me, only my hardware is close to 5 years old and only playing on 1080. It seems as if for many there is either "4k RT max settings - 60 fps min" or "potato" with no inbetween. I didn't expect 60 fps given my setup but I also had at least 30 in average, so the technical side has been not really any issue.

[@darshans6321]

Micro transactions + Horrible Optimization + terrible Frame rates + Denuvo = No thanks

[@6Catz]

the micro transactions arent the issue when resident evil 4 remake had the same kind of micro transactions but its sitting at overwhelmingly positive lol please be consistent what im understanding is if the game runs well then who cares about denuvo and MTX

[@christineherrmann205]

This.

[@kenpachi2607]

You know what other game had mtx the same as dragons dogmas 2? Monster hunter world and Rise.

[@ihavegymnastics]

I agree....

[@devilsadvocate2643]

@@6Catz "he micro transactions arent the issue" yes they are when they are added AFTER the release of the game to skew the notes. Beside, the game dev said "You don't need fast travel if you make the travelling interesting" all this nice chatter just to sell fast travel DLC lmao, please be consistent.

[@jesselockwood5059]

I've got about 50 hours on this game on PC as does my friend and in our experience this video is a huge exaggeration. I get some intense stuter occasionally, but outside of that it's fine. No crashes. Easily recommendable

[@guardian1127]

I’ve been fortunate as I’ve had zero to no issues with the game. My fps do drop to around 25-35 fps in first big city you come to but outside of that I get a consistent 80-90 frames on max settings and couldn’t be happier with the game. To be fair I do have a relatively high end pc and only play on 1080p so take that for what it’s worth

[@Frostwache]

After 40 hours i never had a complaint about Dragons Dogma 2 idk what went wrong it runs stable i got no bugs at all and the story + gameplay is exactly what i wanted to get from it .Will for sure spend another 40 hours if not more ^^

[@inquisitorichijou883]

Falcon looking up the definition of save was a fun part.

[@DVRKL0RD]

That’s what I was saying. 😂

[@fatrobin72]

on the plus side... if it wasn't for the DRM locking out hardware changes (including Proton version changes for those on Linux/Deck) we almost had a new CPU benchmark game for hardware reviewers...

[@JayRacer]

I know some people defend Denuvo, stating it doesn’t affect framerate. However, I watched comparison videos of cracked games without Denuvo vs. the legal copy. In some cases, games were getting 33% better frames. Also, the RE Engine IS not built for this type of game. I’m never stealing games but I will definitely wait until a 3080 can get 60+ frames in ultrawide.

[@Sir4Paco]

Could the performance be impacted by denuvo?

[@krysler5905]

Yes it is.

[@northernsoul0127]

its so weird. So many people report crashes and super low performance. I finished the game without ever crashing, however, the performance wasn't good, but it wasn't bad.. in Vernsworth I was averaging 50fps

[@Izthefaithful]

Playing on ps5 same experience 🤷‍♀️

[@djjawzz]

Same for me. 3050

[@boostedaminal4205]

Same, haven't had a crash. On my NG+. 3060ti tanks at 30 on cities consistent 50 to 60 (vsync on).

[@FzPura]

3050? Tell me your secret​@@djjawzz

[@djjawzz]

@@FzPura on low but it have DL upscaling on the control panel. My game looks just as good as this video I probably could bump it up but I’m not savy. 70hours in

[@zacharyhowell3962]

I'm having fun playing the game, I enjoy the ugrade/update to combat. However I'm incredibly disappointed (straight up I'm angry) in 1. the lack of enemy types (barring Saurians) 2. The lack of equipment diversity (disappointed in the 4 slot system vs. The clothing and then armor system) 3. Gregori doesn't feel like the intelligent force of nature that he was in the first game that in my opinion added a lot of depth and character to the Dragon. 4. In my opinion the characters don't feel all that dynamic either. All in all it feels like I'm playing a game that got 90% complete and the devs had to start wrapping up smaller facets to get the product out on time without making it look like they rushed.

[@badscientist42069]

I couldn't even play the character creator demo because it crashed every 20 minutes or so. Apparently, it was a consistent problem with 20-series NVIDIA RTX cards, even though they met the minimum (or recommended if you have a 2080/Ti, which I do) system requirements listed on Steam. I'm not sure if that's still a problem with the full game, but I don't see why it wouldn't be.

[@crownclown5341]

This is the only rpg game where i do not want to explore the city to find quest or treasure. I would just rush thru the city on what i need to do and go back outside even with the gtx 4090 it just so bad in the city 😅. But love the game alot

[@keivash2]

Odd, seems smooth on my 4070. Not sure what setting you got going on on where your bottleneck is....

[@Kilvoctu]

As mentioned by Falcon, you're going to want the mod by PureDark. While there's still frametime issues, I'm getting ~80fps in city on my 4080 super. Not ideal, but not as bad as the footage from Falcon. Definitely playable Everywhere else I have a smooth, capped 120fps

[@wolfbrother9025]

4060 laptop doing just fine on ultra in cities

[@rjwill1992]

@@keivash212700k 3070, not much lag.

[@Dragens2]

Gpu doesn't matter its the cpu you have to worry about

[@acehazume]

Runs Fine with DLSS Quality + RTX On 60+ fps most of the time, some dips on the main city tho. Here's the Specs: CPU: Intel i9-12900k RAM: 32GB DDR5 (2x16 Trident Z) GPU: Asus TUF RTX 3080 OC Edition 12 GB Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B660-G Liquid Cooling: Asus TUF lc 240 ARGB PSU: Asus ROG Strix 850W Drive: Samsung NVME & Kingston SSD Monitor: Acer Predator XB271HU (2560x1440 165hz) OS: Windows 11 Sample with Streaming (better performance when not streaming) on my channel.

[@midlifecord8318]

If you have a 40 series nvidia card, just enable frame generation. Its already in the game files, just needs one file to activate it. Super easy to do and it basically doubles fps. On my 4090 with ultra settings and 1440p, I've been getting no lower than 100 fps even in towns. Generally closer to to 200 fps

[@o0Silverwolf0o]

My guess is that the critics have hardware that runs the game well. Most users have mid to low-end builds. I run the game on a 7800x3d with a 4090 and every other part is high end, at 4k hdr max settings, no upscaling or framegen with RT on using the interlaced rendering setting, and get 70fps +, no noticable stutters hitches or freezes. I have encountered a few crashes when reloading from save after dying, but that's just a few since launch day.

[@_Smarf_]

If you're a company that sells games to pc players, it should run smooth on the average rig. People with a 4090 should just get access to a premium experience, shouldn't be a requirement, not smart business.

[@o0Silverwolf0o]

@@_Smarf_ for sure. I was speculating why the critics review scores may differ so widly from user review scores.

[@GrandeJano]

With an 5800x and a 2080 Super Im enjoying absolute flawless gameplay between 50 and 60 fps, everything maxed except textures only on high with DLSS quality. No issues whatsoever

[@GrandeJano]

@@Odyssey636 wtf you talking about when PS5 games release with 30fps? Its not a fucking flick of the wrist competitive fps, its a roleplaying game. But you do you: Spend all your money on hardware to play role playing games at 144fps...lol

[@CoCo.-_-]

probably should not even look at the ps5 version where it barely holds 30fps lmao@@GrandeJano

[@KeyoXKeyo]

​@@CoCo.-_- I haven't had an issues on my ps5

[@arun199113]

RE engine does not abbreviate to Resident Evil engine . It’s Reach for the moon Engine .

[@rotomanr1]

They're not reaching hard enough

[@shamrockjack3680]

I've put in almost 30 hours with my 4060 with the frame generation mod and its been a near flawless experience so far. 90-110 fps out in the wild and about 70-80 fps in the big cities. If you have a 40 series GPU than PureDarks mod is the best way to play right now until they officially implement frame generation.

[@estebanaviles6260]

Capcom released a patch to fix some bugs this past week. I was having a lot of issues with frames and stutter but it's all gone now, the game works flawlessly for me.

[@Koby1konoby]

That's a shame. I haven't had any major issues. Some annoyances like framerate drop in big cities like vernworth, but aside from that, it's flawless. I have a 3070 and am playing on almost max settings, and I am getting about 60-50(it's perfect for me because I was a console gamer all my life). fps. In cities like vernworth I get about 30 or 40, depending on where in the city I am. Overall, a 9/10, to be a 10/10, it'd have to have a perfect pc port.

[@kultur-vultur]

So frame rates when they drop are still on average higher than consoles locked 30 and below fps, no wonder he didn't show any on screen frame stats.

[@Koby1konoby]

@@kultur-vultur yeah. The least I've ever got was when I played on max settings, and It was around 20, so terrible.

[@RodStrykez]

Idk… I have this on PC and only have a 3080 and I only had the game crash once and the frame rate is indeed bad in the city, but I’ve had a good time exploring and completing quests for over 40 hours now. Game is far from perfect… but I find it to be a lot of fun and playable

[@WaldoIsMissing]

I have a 1080ti and no crashes after 40 hours. A few bugs and what seems to be almost crashes. That’s not my problem though. My problem is while the game can be seriously fun, it gets very samey and the campaign is short AF. Yes there’s the extra third option, but that only adds up to about the complete first fourth of a game story. That and performance, a truly useless class, the addition of further systems that make the complaints from the last game worse only to sell the solutions in a shop, the degradation of the classes, and a few other things. Then charging me $70 for a great looking downgrade. Edit: It seemed like such a long game because the massive amount of mobs they cut and paste on the way to objective. It was a little excessive.

[@gmorkins6006]

3080 myself, no crashes, I get dips to 30fps in the packed cities but that's about it.

[@whyjnot420]

I understand that making something work on PC can be harder with all the hardware options PCs have, as compared to making a game work on this or that console. That said, this has never been an acceptable excuse for the level of BS that we get shoveled on PC on a regular basis. In the 40 years I have been an active gamer and almost 25 years as a PC gamer, I have never once heard a reason for bad ports (ports from consoles>PC or arcade>anything) that wasn't just an excuse for either a) We can't be bothered, or b) our devs suck the big one. Assuming someone isn't trying to make a modern game work on old hardware (like these multigenerational releases for console, or for a more specific example, Primal Rage on SNES... Generally speaking I can understand when that doesn't go according to plan).

[@frikyouall]

Ah, so everyone is having Vernsworth lag. Good to know. I had to update my PC because my 3060ti wasn't recognized. The card I bought SPECIFICALLY for this game, and the card that was playing Palworld practically on release day with the same OS. Then I had to update my drivers because, apparently, if you have a model that's stretched or slightly discolored, it crashes the whole client. Now there's a bunch of commercial worms on my PC that I'll need several guides to get rid of, but at least I can play Dragon's Dogma II now. I really miss my functional version of Windows. 😑

[@joshjordan1486]

releasing janked games should be illegal.

[@jaysonocampo6472]

I second the motion. Specially if it isn't physical copy

[@hotpockets69]

Is the game janked or is just your CPU is an i3?

[@KeyoXKeyo]

​@@hotpockets69 his shits clearly an i3

[@Anonymouthful]

As well as selling a product thats different to what it was advertised to be.

[@EpicPianoArrangements]

Since cyberpunk 2077, I have learnt that you can never trust most of the critics. Remember YongYea going on about how great it was and then retracted it shortly after?

[@Honneylemz]

RE Engine doesn't actually mean Resident Evil Engine funny enough. It means Reach for the Moon Engine for some reason. It's definitely and engine built for certain types of games but is being pushed by Capcom on all of their games even though it's capabilities are not built for those types of games hence the problem we have with DD2. Kinda reminds me of EA's Frostbite Engine primarily built for FPS games mainly for Battlefield but was pushed by EA to be used by all their games which led to the development hell of Anthem.

[@themustachioedman]

The problem with the micro transactions (other than simply existing on their own) is that it incentivizes Capcom to keep banning modders who break the DRM to mod the game. Because what’s going to stop modders from modding in infinite premium currency or unlimited port stones etc. stuff you have to pay cash to get. They look at it as stealing digital assets.

[@zacharyanderson6836]

The PC issues is why I generally just play on console now. There are so many different PC variants for hardware and software, it is inevitable a setup isn't going to work. The companies are never going to test the combos, and generally will be like, it works with this setup, which puts everyone on the end user. Not cool, but that is the biggest downside to PC gaming, but it has always been this way. Trying to download the right physX package, get the right version of drivers. They have never really had an answer for it/

[@bhuvangunessee]

we are in 2024... what's with the 2000s mentality

[@zacharyanderson6836]

@@bhuvangunessee You think we have less combinations of hardware then we did then? The problem has only gotten worse, not better.

[@bhuvangunessee]

​@@zacharyanderson6836 The problem with DG2 is Denuvo. I have had PCs since 2001, and I have had both PS and XBox consoles since the PS3. The PC hassle you call of having to find this and that right version of driver or software is not a thing anymore, hasn't been for a while; the problem is bad optimisation of games and this was never not a problem. The problem is just made worse by the performance gap between an entry-level hardware and a top tier hardware and people not accepting that a mid end PC can still play a game as well as a high end PC but at lower graphical fidelity and FPS. The reason devs don't like the XBox Series S is because the consumer cannot accept that their game will look "less good" compared to Series X or PS5, they are worried people will nitpick. Same for PC, it's either it has to look as good as the console, but is worse cause it has to on a way wider range of hardware. Publishers, devs, and consumers, everyone needs to just accept the performance gap between hardware is meaningful now and embrace it, and also not be so scared as to use Denuvo (the people who pirate will always pirate no matter what). Till then we'll get crap like this. That's the real problem now.

[@Itsatarp1337]

Honest question, what is an average GPU/CPU nowadays? I havent played in years and got myself a new GPU/CPU for Dogma (6750xt and AMD Ryzen 5 5600X so nowhere near high end) and i have about 60 fps everywhere. Yes Citys dip to about 40-50 fps, but no where near the "it only works when you have a rocket ship". And I have everything on high, just Raytracing disabled, no stutters. Just very curious if people are actually having that much trouble and I am just lucky, or people just jump the bandwagon like they do with the Microtransactions. (They are as miniscule as buying 20k$ in GTA5 Story mode)

[@Jimbokoln]

I had last year 5600X cpu and 3070ti. I upgraded my cpu to 5800x non 3d, and gpu to a 4070. I also get above 60 with everything turned on outside of towns, in towns I get dips to 20s sometimes

[@akatsukicloak]

I have a laptop with rtx 2060, I get 40 fps on average with 60 fps in dialogue scenes. The FPS may dip for a second in an area with lots of NPC's but otherwise its smooth. I am getting the impression most people are too lazy to change some settings in the option, turn on DLSS and dynamic framerate and then complain the game is unplayable when it's actually playable even on a laptop.

[@chrisgraal7319]

The PS5 has AMD guts. Probably why it's better on Red.

[@2un7zu]

Man, I must have been so lucky. I'm having zero issues with the game. No stuttering, no slowdowns, no crashes and more ferrystones than I ever need. 73h in. Just had to do a bit of tweaking, which I always do.

[@ericmclaughlin73]

For the record the game is totally playable with a highend PC, and some mods as you mentioned, but also registry tweaks to prioritize CPU, and undock cores. The point is the game can be played with a lot of effort in the work around realm. But your point stands, the current state is not acceptable and should be called out. But the game is a riot.

[@Volthollow]

Hey falcon you're wrong. You said the only 2 types of savings are auto and inn. You can save at any point if you go to the start menu and settings ( save and continue, save and exit, exit without savings.

[@ThatGuyRaging]

This is factual because I use this feature.

[@gakkieNL]

That save just overwrites the auto save. So yeah. Just two kind of saves!

[@Volthollow]

@@gakkieNL he said that you can only autosave or inn save, that's not true, manual savings isn't autosaving. Even if it's the same file

[@mondomunoz7252]

i dont know why he said there is only auto save and inn save. You can literally press start and save(if not in combat)

[@joshuac1364]

I think the issue people are having is loading from the inn which could be an earlier save overwriting your latest save in the open world. Unfortunate miss clicks overwriting hours of gameplay on accident. Weird issue

[@mondomunoz7252]

@@joshuac1364 fair

[@KeyoXKeyo]

​@@joshuac1364 sure but that's not what he said in the video

[@TheCuriousCrusaders]

My game ran completely smooth up until I got to the dessert city and the elves inn for some reason

[@takenovergaming7189]

Im playing on a 4080 with an i7 13700KF 32gb ram, i have not had a single crash. I drop to 70fps in Vernworth, which isn't an issue. i would like to see it improved though but so far smooth sailing. Absolutely loving the game with so far 32 hours on record.

[@spazzticzeal6238]

Same I have a different PC though, all of the hated and supposedly inferior AMD build and haven't had one crash in 65 hours.

[@takenovergaming7189]

Yeah nothing wrong with AMD hardware, They've come a long way and are doing well. But yeah everyone i know thats playing it on PC is only having fps drops in vernworth no crashes. @spazzticzeal6238

[@Captain.AmericaV1]

I don't begrudge tiny monitization like they did with DD2 if it's not for greed purposes, and more for support for future DLC, it's not nearly as invasive. But when they wait until after reviews to include it that's when I call out greed and scumbaggery because it's so blatant, and anyone defending this are just as much of a scumbag.

[@ScentSense]

It was in the original game and every other Capcom game from the last 10 years. They also said that you'd be able to purchase the pre-order and Deluxe edition items separately, so I have no idea why you people are pretending they just snuck it in somehow. It was as clear and obvious as could possibly be, and exactly the same as all their other games...​ Including the original fucking game lol. Try again though, trolls.

[@MusicSkeletonKeys]

People keep repeating Capcom’s history of petty micro-transactions as if it’s supposed to legitimize what’s in DD2, or that it’s common knowledge. It’s not compelling. And it paints a creepy emotional bias that points prospective players elsewhere.

[@Captain.AmericaV1]

@MusicSkeletonKeys it should do since Capcom blatantly waited until reviews to release it, which again I'll reiterate is, at best, egregious. No one can defend that blatant behaviour, without looking like a scumbag themselves.

[@steelenutz1]

Let the hate flow through you

[@Captain.AmericaV1]

@@steelenutz1 being truthful and not confirming to this ain't being hateful. Why should people accept it, and why should people day one or preorder games in a state,only to take up to a year plus to be what it should have been on release?

[@labyrinthic4977]

Never crashed on pc with over 25hrs so far, but their is points when the graphics and performance dips in the cities but other then that solid ass game

[@ManinaCAGE]

25 hours.. 😂 i beat it in 23 hours 100% it in 28... so u should be 3 hours from having nothing new to do in game..

[@gellis24]

@@ManinaCAGEyou did not play this game correctly at all. Clearly just rushed main story and did no exploring or side quests at all. How many seekers tokens you got??? Idiotic comment

[@Nunoflashy]

@@gellis24 Yeah, 100%ing the game in 28h is either a lie, or he followed guides to accomplish it, which defeats the whole purpose of 100%ing in my opinion... Ruining the experience for yourself by watching walkthroughs and guides. I have 120h played and I haven't finished the main story yet, been exploring and doing side quests and still not seeing the end of the game, which is great, taking it slow. Around 130 tokens :D

[@SynthLizard8]

In addition to the Steam rating, they should also implement a performance rating, so it's: >Recent Reviews >Overall Reviews >Performance Rating

[@MisterBrimm]

I played it on PC, 49 hours and only a couple crashes, the occasional frame drop but they already really improved performance. I have an RT 6700 XT which is an equivalent to what's in the PS5. Late stage i9. Lucked out.

[@joeygra]

Refunded. Embarrassing for capcom

[@wandering_heart]

L on your part. It's actually incredible.

[@SLURM187]

Thanks for letting us know. We were all wondering.

[@TheRealUcanUwill]

@@wandering_heart if it can't run, it is not incredible.

[@bonquaviusdingle5720]

Same. PC port is complete ass. Not paying $60 to beta test your game.

[@wesleybaldwin1999]

​@TheRealUcanUwill this is why games should be on console only. I get it, you want a few frames. The human eye cant resolve more then 4k or 60 fps so with modern consoles and tvs you really cant say you need pc for better graphics. Theres too many random factors that are different for each pc. Dudes who watch a lot of porn are gonna have a worse time with a game then someone else. Errors are so easy to accidentally create on PC. Pcs are for creating, for work. Leave playing to the consoles.