What will happen to KTM's MotoGP project?

[@cocky_potato]

I'm sorry, but I just don't see the good old "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" relevant for quite a while now. No one cares about motorcycles anymore; like, no one. The new generations have no interest in riding and no money for what is becoming a more and more expensive hobbie. It's not just KTM in dire straits, it's the industry as a whole.

[@ALIENdrifter66]

Your reasoning makes sense for Europe and the USA, but there's a big error with that reasoning. The largest motorcycle market is by far in Asia, that's where real money is made, and in some of those countries people really like to buy the brands they see racing. That's why on the last years, MotoGP has been racing on Indonesia and Thailand. Those markets allow you to sell millions of bikes every single year, and it's going up every single year. Of course, the main market is focused on 125-400cc motorbikes, but the amount is so big that it's more profitable.

[@Blackirish__]

@@ALIENdrifter66Asia is big on 🛵

[@Blackirish__]

The price of motorbikes these days is astronomical 40k euros for the new Hyabusa is a joke for most people these high end bikes are recreational with speed limits and cameras everywhere city’s getting busier yeah the hike in prices just isn’t worth it

[@maxflight777]

agreed , its sad.

[@Blackirish__]

@ I think they started with subscriptions and having to pay more to get track pack etc, people are sick of subscriptions and getting fleeced classic case of using a software upgrade to make more money, like Netflix I think it was initially wanting more money to see content in 4k it’s disgraceful

[@timothymills733]

They are gone. Corporate announcements for public consumption at times like this are meaningless. Racing means a lot for people in KTM that work in the racing department. No one should kid themselves that anyone in KTM management looks at racing as anything other than a business division that needs to demonstrate they are bringing in more cash than they cost. Suzuki have quit factory supported racing, now Kawasaki is gone, and those companies have a much greater history in racing than KTM, and yes, I am counting dirt bikes. Those two companies are running motorcycle businesses in the same world, and are both financially healthy companies, yet they did not see the economic benefit at this time, so why would KTM be different especially when they are bleeding cash?

[@deabreu.tattoo]

kawasaki isn't gone, they just changed to their boutique brand in order to be able to enter a more specialized bike with higher-end parts that they can sell for an extra premium - you expect a bimota to cost much more than a kawasaki

[@cicadasbuzzbee]

​@@deabreu.tattooI believe we are talking about MotoGP here, not WSBK, as WSBK only uses normal production bikes.

[@maxflight777]

Timothy Mills ...I agree. ( lots of wishful thinking around the two MGP teams) ... they won't survive

[@deabreu.tattoo]

@ oh, I thought you were talking about wsbk indeed. Kawi’s been gone from MotoGP for what, 10 years? 15? Lol

[@bryan-u4f]

Looks like Miller dodged a bullet in MotoGP.

[@BlackRose-vi2yg]

He was on holiday this season anyway

[@charliepyle1626]

@@BlackRose-vi2yg did you see the rear wheel chatter, did you wonder why the other 2 kept falling off?

[@philsaunder9690]

Guessing anyone that was thinking of buying a KTM is having second thoughts now. If sales were not on target this year I can’t see them improving any time soon. Fingers crossed they get through this.

[@charliepyle1626]

I don't think second thoughts, im'e thinking run a mile. Sad because they made some nice bikes

[@LowQualityPigeon]

I was sad to ses Suzuki pull out from the Racing scene but now i realise that it was the best thing at that moment for the brand. Kawasaki did the same thing in 09 and saved themselves from poring cash and getting no return. Sometimes it is fine to leave aside the "Racing Heritage" and focus on how to make the brand survive. KTM should do the same thing after 2025 season to focus more on their road bikes.

[@xipingpooh5783]

You can’t tell me KTM says their MotoGP Team won’t be affected and actually believe it. They are trying to put lipstick on a pig.

[@graemesydney38]

I would imagine the effort will to be maintain the team so it can be sold as a separate walk out, walk in going concern - team, technicians, riders, design rights, staff, VIP lounge, sponsors, box and dice. Buyers??? Triumph, BMW, a Chinese or Indian brand?

[@Phuc_Yhou]

None of those manufacturer's have any interest or need to be in motogp, its bikes are irrelevant to what those companies sell, with the very limited free TV coverage there's no advertising advantage compared to the internet these days.

[@robertw413]

It’s strange to me that they are even in MotoGP. They don’t sell superbike or supersport bikes and have said they won’t make another road registered superbike because it’s too dangerous. I mean if you win on Sunday it’s not like I’m going to buy some adventure, commuter or mx bike because of it. So all that V4 tech for bragging rights. Makes no sense to me and may not to the bean counters.

[@deandee8082]

you can patent and sell development, big money

[@sburns2421]

Would not be surprised to see Red Bull take over the MotoGP project completely. Liberty Media can claim a crossover F1 to MotoGP was the plan all along. Anything on the lower classes may get the axe for 2026.

[@23DuDe]

Honda takeover engine supply for Moto3...?

[@ianjohnson1207]

KTM will no longer run GAS GAS and Husqvarna in moto3 next season

[@23DuDe]

@@ianjohnson1207 what about engine supply?

[@sikador8627]

KTM motorcycles are a lot of fun to ride, but when they break down, it's a disaster. The lack of spare parts and long waiting times frustrate motorcycle owners who wait months for their motorcycle to be repaired. The quality control is hopeless and additional fees for equipment that turns off after 1,000 kilometers are the main reasons for customer anger.

[@salttea8926]

KTM is like a family for MotoGP, hope they will do well financially.

[@Dr_Snow]

My concern is about what happens with MotoGP (all classes for that matter) if KTM simply doesn’t have the funds to continue their investment 😮

[@Luchingador]

looking forward to pick up a cheap KTM

[@martelmarteau4502]

.... and reliable ....😉

[@ClassicTrialsChannel]

Not great. just because they are restucturing, that doesn't mean in the next 6 months to a year that they still wont go in to bankruptcy . it just means their hoping it stops that happening

[@CrashMotoGP]

Yeah, it’s looking very bleak.

[@tjroelsma]

The sad thing is that KTM has nobody to blame but themselves. They made the choice to put almost all their R&D and their best mechanics into MotoGP at the cost of all other divisions and now they're facing the consequences of that ill thought out strategy. From all the complaints about KTM bikes, it's clear both the R&D and the quality have taken a huge hit and their products aren't reliable anymore. Add to that that they're competing in a very competitive market and the downfall had to come quickly and devastatingly. KTM seems to have completely forgotten, or ignored, that it's the commercial divisions that pay for the racing division, not the other way around.

[@ianjohnson1207]

KTM are in this situation due to over production and a bigger slow down in motorcycle sales than expected They also lost an absolute fortune on their electric bike and bicycle division The R&D department have nothing to do with the production of motorcycles

[@tjroelsma]

@@ianjohnson1207 Those problems can relatively easily be overcome. The huge peoblems with quakity control and desgn errors are much more serious and not that easy to solve, as those directly harm KTM's reputation.

[@ianjohnson1207]

@@tjroelsma “Those problems can relatively be overcome”!!!! KTM motorcycles overall have no more reliability issues than any other manufacturer Two friends have KTMs no problems both my Yamaha and Triumph had recalls

[@jjohnnyqquest7900]

They need to ditch motogp, and save the company. Period !!! That simple 😊

[@graemesydney38]

Maybe go back to their roots - offroad champs. Apparently the reliability and reputational damage brought by the road bikes has been an issue.

[@chrisdadda]

Wow, this is sad news. Does that mean Dorna may have to instill a salary cap on what is spent on MotoGP to balance prospects for future teams? The sport cannot afford to lose another manufacturer or we wind up rebranding again to DucatiGP!!!

[@Moonlit-Knight6171]

True story. One of the reasons I recently declined to buy a CFMOTO was because I didn't have confidence and couldn't confirm if the Chinese bike still contained legacy KTM engineering such as oil starvation to the camshaft. Let that sink in for a minute.

[@charliepyle1626]

Jack is probably counting his lucky stars. I was looking at a 1290 at 26k, then it was 2k to unlock it, got a suzie 800 for under 16k. I know there is no comparison, the 800 has a seat you can sit on and travel.

[@billsmart2532]

KTM produces one really nice lightweight sport bike: RC390 , but no supersport or superbike. (?) Beyond Moto3, they got way ahead of their products. Participation in MotoGP is not an economically justified representation. When this chapter of their book comes out, it will make an interesting read.

[@richardyorke9055]

Every company that gets in the shit bins off all racing commitments straight away. I'm not sure it's going to be justifiable for long. Tragedy

[@woodrowbeckford7610]

The trouble KTM is having is just an indication of what's going on with all motorcycles. In the end only one will remain, Honda.

[@ewganhoff]

And Honda have absolutely knocked it out the park with the new, 150hp, 1000 Hornet for £9000! That makes every other manufacturer look stupid.

[@Terraceview]

@@ewganhoff Best deal on the market now.

[@12346rossi]

@@ewganhoff agreed new bikes also vans, are so expensive now paid 6995 for a brand new cbr600rr in 2006 double the price now for essentially the same bike

[@ewganhoff]

@@12346rossi £7K in 2006 is £11,800 today, so that CBR is actually cheaper today. Just for curiosity I did the backward calc for the Hornet 1000 and it comes out to £5,300 in 2006. That is mental cheap.

[@Chris_Page]

KTM filed their insolvency documents today they owe €2.9 billion

[@ianjohnson1207]

KTM AG declares insolvency with €1.8 billion in debt; total liabilities across three entities reach €2.9 billion. There’s a difference between debt and liabilities

[@the_derpler]

Will not be shocked if this is the end and Pedro will get scooped up by Honda or something.

[@ganjabobby]

Yeah or Yamaha sitting on that one year contract with Miller

[@Vahu19]

latest info... debt of Pierer Mobilty Group is actually around 3billion (not 1.2 as previously mentioned). they need to bow out and come back in 15years if they will still be a brand

[@porkchopexpress199]

A possible redbull bmw on the horizon in walks toprak

[@rotorairgroup8409]

I hope that they come to MotoGP but while KTM remains

[@andremichau2455]

Sad for KTM. Executive management to blame. Maybe Redbull will swoop down and 'save' them.

[@RobinWinterton]

With depts of a reported 3 billion euros, I can't see KTM coming through this. I was thinking of buying a 990 Duke, not now though!.

[@alanhow3575]

As far as enduro machines, many jumped ship from KTM to the likes of Shirco, Beta etc and Yamaha because KTM were trying to be TOO innovative which created unreliable and underperforming products at premium prices. Why would you if you can’t spend the same or less elsewhere on reliable machinery?

[@rackbites]

Honda should buy their MotoGP project ... cheaper than whatever the farq the HRC factory is trying to build whilst achieving zero results ... not looking good for Liberty Media ... I mean we have the new logo and all ... Miller must be happy with his move ....

[@svenhollis-lifts]

Not looking good for Liberty Media? In what way? They are absolutely cashed up and have made F1 undeniably profitable with sponsors, rebranding, marketing and holding races where they never raced before. They will do the same with MotoGP, Liberty Media will be the reason motorcycle fans will still have Prototype motorcycles racing into the 2030’s and beyond!

[@MC-ht6lw]

Agreed!​@@svenhollis-lifts

[@PeteTex10]

They should start making just 2t enduro/mx motorcycles

[@Gmh6477]

Impossible to meet emissions regulations with a 2 stroke.

[@MPD622]

Seems that maybe a class action law suit for engine reliability issues and trying to sell subscriptions to access hardware already on the bike hasn't gone too well...

[@andyballard1883]

Those statements sound like such wishful thinking and spin but the bottom line is when your losing that much money there is a fundamental lack of market for the brand. I can only think the motoGP program continues if Red bull are financing it and will ultimately take the Grid slots as collateral against the mounting debt.

[@nialbarnsley4108]

I think the last 2 years they have ploughed a shit ton of £££££ into moto gp to try to win. But pedro acosta just ate up all the dough constantly bining his bike like 10 times a race weekend

[@resQ-av8r]

you mean the crypto-bro three wheeler didn't save the brand .. shocking. Mercedes Group finally has chance to get a motorbike arm like VWgroup's Ducati & BMW motorrad .. after all what is more German than Austria ;-) but please get rid of those ridiculous 3 wheeler.

[@Andy_ATB]

What about MXGP, Enduro, Dakar Rallye Raid?????

[@patrickoneill9442]

I'm gutted cos KTM are an iconic brand . Starting in motocross,from the early days they were they different from all the Japanese machinery.would be sad day for KTM to leave MOTO GP.

[@MartinMcMartin]

It was win on Sunday, sell on Monday for a century. Not so much now.

[@FloydCourtnell]

Still great motorcycles. Get one while you can. Other wise it will go like concord. Back wards

[@John_Smith__]

Yup, last time they won was 2021 With Miguel Oliveira MO88 in Barcelona. but I do not think they are going away anytime soon. There is a serious world economic crisis coming and motorbike sales suffer. High end motorbikes suffer more. So KTM will simply have to a less expensive product offerings. I must remember everyone that the best selling motorbikes are Low-powered scooter but By Far. KTM has no offer on that segment. About the Brand tho they are Super Strong. KTM is one the most recognizable Brand names out there! They have indeed a Fan-base and motorbike fans all oer the world consider KTM obviously for what they are ..a TOP Brand with Top Motorbikes. KTM will come out of this restructure process Stronger.

[@raa729]

I just hope I will be able to find parts for my 1290 sdr for years to come. Just glad I got gen1 which is relatively bulletproof and doesn’t really need any help from dealers that will be gone and can be fixed by a decent mechanic. Poor sods who splashed on new 1390 recently 😂

[@stuartbignell2330]

I will be surprised to see KTM in MotoGP IN 2025. The future of the company is not reliant on MotoGP. It will be hard be laying off hundreds of employees and then spend millions on MotoGP.

[@olivertoeknuckleiii2093]

Hey KTM - build and sell a street legal V4 Superbike! Wasn’t this the purpose for going MotoGP in the first place? Make it fast and not-to expensive, and people will line up for one!

[@othgmark1]

No they won't Ktm built a pretty decent superbike in the past. Nobody bought them. They do not have the cachet of Ducati. The overall market for liter and up Superbikes is getting worse by the year. Adding another brand just dilutes it more.

[@cheeseburger3209]

Yeah that'll solve everything. I'm sure all the people laid off across the world would be lining up out the door and up the street to buy a 200bhp road bike.

[@jamesb.walker9177]

They are unfortunatelly doomed, thir debt is up to 3B Euros and no way that the public admistration will let them use 120M per year on MotoGP. Best case scenario they sell the motogp project to BMW and keep the smaller categories. It is a real shame though!

[@GrahamJackson-j2s]

I'll buy one if they are goin cheap.

[@ewganhoff]

And here comes Honda with a 150hp bike for £9000! The Hornet 1000 makes every other manufacturer look incredibly dumb. Not least KTM with the 1390. If you think 30hp, zwhen we're talking 150+hp makes a difference on the road, you are a noob, a squid, and you don't know what day it is.

[@Markc88825]

Think of the small business suppliers that won’t get paid.

[@BlackRose-vi2yg]

I can see them having to sell their MotoGP business. I cannot see them being allowed to spend that money on racing when creditors have outstanding accounts.

[@SlimScheibe]

Red Bull should just buy out their MotoGP support and design staff and become a factory team like in F1.

[@vthirteen]

I’m sure the people laid off will be thrilled that their projected wages are being gambled on MotoGP !

[@christosphillips3568]

What KTM needs to do is rethink and re-design the front end of their bikes! It looks appauling; many potential buyers are put off from that paying mantis insectocidal f..in look. They dont do justice to their tech with what they adopted as their "KTM LOOK"!!! If a bike is not nice to look at then its like you are sending it to the fight with one arm tied up . Just my two cents.

[@captaintoyota3171]

No it wouldnt solve anything. 2021 lots of ppl bought bikes, ktm and others upped production. BUT kawasaki etc will tell you the mass market superbike is DEAD. Bikes arent offering benefits advancment enough to really help the market. Ppl just dont buy new superbikes anymore.the x bow etc cost vs sales where horrid. So ktm screwed themselves overproducibg and expanding. So its possible they restructure etc but they have motogp contract thru 2026, upgrades and r&d will drop. Acosta must hope the pre restructure upgrades are enough. Cause 2026 ktm may be gone. Bmw ducatti aprillia can justify a premium price and keep the small production market alive. Ktm reached too far and strayed from the bespoke premium bike for mass market, which like i said it doesnt exist

[@otter7467]

@@captaintoyota3171 Nah this dude isn't wrong. I did look at KTM's when I bought a new superbike this year. Test rode a ton of bikes (SFV4, PanV4s, R1, SupDuk, GSX1R, etc), and I loved the feel of the Super Duke, but I couldn't get over the looks. I ended up with an RSV4. MotoGP really doesn't make sense for KTM. KTM doesn't even have a street legal Superbike, so why bother with MotoGP? I'd love a KTM V4 superbike with lights but the best they offer are bug faced Naked V2s. Outside of the dirt side (had a 701 in the past), the bikes are ugly. I disagree with the superbikes are dying (I accept I could be wrong), but with all cars costing more and performance cars becoming completely out of reach for most. What other option would a speed obsessed lad have but superbikes or hyper nakeds?

[@oceanforth21]

@@captaintoyota3171 I would agree that the superbike is dead, but KTM doesn’t make mass market superbikes. They have their upcoming 990 RC R, but that’s a torquey twin for the newly emerging “modern” supersport class, which everyone seems to be interested in dipping their hands in

[@fearme46]

@@otter7467to offer a different perspective, I’ve owned a Tuono, Street Triple, R1, GSX-R, Harley’s etc etc and this year I finally pulled it he trigger on a Super Duke 1390. It’s definitely not a “pretty” bike, but I love the looks of the 24 model. It looks and rides insane, the most fun, crazy yet practical bike I’ve ever owned. I love it! People keep blaming KTM’s issues on cams, looks, reliability but it simply comes down to their management dreaming too big, too greedy, too many companies, too many bikes to sell in a horrible worldwide economy.

[@Gmh6477]

The moto GO team could carry on if it’s set up as a separate entity

[@JoeEngineersThings]

I don’t understand why they race MotoGP but have such limited sport bike options for consumers.

[@ianjohnson1207]

All the R&D ends up in all their motorcycles

[@captinktm]

History repeating it's self. The last time they failed at MotoGP they also went bust. Their products are no longer reliable, they have had major issues with many many different bikes. I have personally owned at least 30 of their bikes ( and worked for them) up till the carbs disappeared, would I buy another one? Not a chance. They bought Gas gas and Husqvarna because there KTM sales were dropping, mainly because of reliability and they were expensive and of course every man and his dog had a KTM. They were a victim of their own success. Conning people to buy other brands which are just a different colour was never going to last. Will the Austrian government bail them out again? I doubt it. They will sell of Husqvarna and Gas gas to the Chinese, or the India will buy the complete lot. Will they win MotoGP ..............not a f....in chance.

[@Davidkxf]

I can't see that arbitrators allowing this project to continue while they laying hundreds of staff off, I won't be surprised if BMW buys the MotoGP team.

[@neilr4867]

Hopefully they'll can it and go back to focusing on their dirt bikes. That's what they're good at

[@Phuc_Yhou]

No one wants sports bikes anymore, electric cycles and electric motorcycles are what young people want, the old guys want cruisers or sit up naked

[@bendavies6775]

A ready made race team for Lewis Hamilton or BMW?

[@paullacey2999]

KTM should have been improving the build and reliability of their bikes instead of so many race programmes,And not buying into loads of motorcycle brands.MV Augusta has been a boom and bust story.KTM,Husquavarna and Gasgas all compete with one another with similar bikes too.

[@cosmiccharlie8294]

Wrong question perhaps. What will happen to MotoGp in 2025 and beyond?

[@claudinostemarie9769]

Ducati has too many bike in MotoGP that's why they are so competitive they get a lot of data to improve their bike 8 bike or 6 bike is not fair MotoGP need to put a limit on the number of bike that every team get i think every team need to have 4 not 8 or 6

[@AaronCarloGullaDeGuzman]

I think Red Bull will buy KTM just like 20 years ago in F1 when they buy Ford for $1 dollar and invest $300+ million

[@graemesydney38]

They MIGHT buy the MotoGP team (not KTM)

[@red.riot.2280]

I hope they get a good investor and someone with business sense. Ditch gas gas and the new MV. Husky makes sense in all the “other” sales. Be good if someone like Red Bull or someone else to buy the majority and quit sending their product to elsewhere.

[@Terraceview]

100K+ unsold motorcycles... let that sink in. It seems like it's over unfortunately for KTM MotoGP if they don't stop paying all their management stupid money.

[@jamescampbell4334]

Does KTM really think a win or two in MotoGP will fix their woes?KTMs inability to make cams last, compounded by not stepping up with warranty repair authoritarians on customers bikes, will NOT be wiped away by the top step on a podium.

[@jarnosaarinen4583]

not surprised

[@speedtrap420]

$$$ killed the OG KTM MotoGP(motor was built, never raced) project back in the day, I can see this round of money troubles doing it in again. $$$ killed the OG Aprilia MotoGP 3 cylinder once upon a time and them Kawasaki and Suzuki guys have yet to return. If KTM survives, good on them, however if they ditch out, the peoples champion(Pedro Acosta), might want to hunt a Moto2 team for a ride. Cheers!

[@jeffreykneeream8013]

hopefully KTM can regroup

[@sungerbob1786]

every motorcycle manufacturer complains about new generations not buying bikes anymore sells dropping constantly yet bikes prices going higher and higher every year and its becoming much harder to buy a motorcycle.. and for the ktm, its not ok exiting moto gp to cut down the expenses like suzuki did, but its ok to lay off hundreds of people right? im not even sorry.

[@85antone]

Too many brands and some poor management decisions - I wish them well

[@manutd19880728]

Well, its time for BMW to buy KTM and rename the project.

[@caltiki3090]

Racing will not save them at this point…………

[@smith2781]

Normally when a company feel a financial crisis the racing team is the first to go. So when the new regulations happen in a couple of years they might pull out. Unless Tata keep funding it like the Arabs did when McLaren hit problems?

[@ChristopherZarate-g1s]

I think KTM will be bought by Redbull, that is the most logical right now.

[@htssoutboardsboatstrains9784]

I think KTM needs to dump all this esoteric stuff and get back to their basics. Race bikes for Enduro & Moto. The over sea's stretch hurts the brand in the eyes of their core customers. Those dual purpose disasters need to go as well. They have lost the trust in that market with the can shaft and other customer relations issues. Ditch that line and start from scratch when the business model is right. Continue with the Motocross and Off road market with the conventional bikes.

[@reinhardtkefa5867]

Motogp is one weird organization..... I recently noticed that teams are just competing for marketing...Whaaat...???? Dorna should pay these teams...no team should have more than one satellite team...cost cap for official manufacturers... They should be a pay package manufacturers and satellites ..... am eager to see what liberty does

[@KepleroGT]

All teams except Ducati now have one satellite team. I don't know what's the problem. Forcing a team to leave or a new manufacturer to join isn't doable

[@luiginiolu6842]

The reason there were 8 Ducatis was to fill the grid as previous manufacturers pulled out altogether in the last few years. Now it's good that Yamaha has decided to field a second team with Pramac. There aren't exactly many manufacturers currently knocking at the door of MotoGP, in fact there aren't any at all. Hopefully BMW in 2026/7, but that's not a given, and judging by their past like in F1 they can also be a bit fickle and unreliable. The European manufacturers are all at risk, Jap ones are slightly better placed as like Honda they sell lots of small capacity bikes in Asia, but the top racing operations will either be scaled down or closed. Very likely that the future will be Chinese and also probably Indian manufacturers that will take over.

[@tonygee3284]

There Moto gp team is gone

[@40indyuk]

They bought MV ? that down the tubes too ?

[@raa729]

Most likely CF Moto will buy Ktm brand and sell cheaper bikes in Asia. They are doing that already in limited capacity

[@cheeseburger3209]

CF Moto don't have 3 billion dollars and the CCP ain't going to loan them that kind of money.

[@12346rossi]

where do you get 20k from to buy an R1 for example - it will cost me a divorce - smaller cheap 2 strokes machines are the way forward

[@2heavyb517]

Their optimism seems more like a scared kid whistling past the graveyard

[@23DuDe]

Moto3 engine supplier and associated costs...? And CFM won the championship in 2024... MX and SX have been dominated by Honda mainly Enduro is their only success and even then it's probably more a Husky brand that's dominated. 790/890 issues... Overpriced bikes compared to competitors Ebike and related genre's just shows the underlying issues Then we can move onto of the lack of 'new' bikes after the teasers of 2021 I still think half the issue is supplying bikes that are too expensive in a world market that is reeling from covid costs payback and the impacts of cost of living crisis occurring in every country they sell in.

[@OzzieBird]

KTM doesn't sell anything close to what they race in MotoGP or Moto2 or World Superbike or Supersport. Dear KTM... Duh !!! Your Off Road bikes sell and do reflect what is raced. Get a clue. Or go out of business.

[@monarch29balisongs]

Just a bunch of drama redbull make alot of money

[@NMdesertracer]

They need to ditch MV and GasGas!

[@GregOwens-vh4se]

Get some.

[@Bin-911]

If they are getting bankrupt then why do invest in some shit bike r&d like 1390, 8 90, 790. ,990 which doesn't even make much revenue or not best selling

[@StringTone-t6v]

Karepmu cit cit cit karepmu kene wes kadung ajur podowae ...bales nyowone.

[@ROBOTRIX_eu]

[@FloydCourtnell]

Also. I agree that they shouldn’t sell super bikes on the market. Because idiots die. And that don’t help That’s why they don’t. Super bikes They are for experienced track riders. Learn and have fun guys and dolls

[@ianjohnson1207]

They don’t make super bikes

[@FloydCourtnell]

@ yes that’s what said Although they did have the rc8r

[@ianjohnson1207]

@@FloydCourtnell You obviously don’t own a motorcycle

[@GeorgiaGrowGuy]

KTM would not be in this situation if they did not make shitty bikes.

[@maxflight777]

🤡

[@Commander1991NOR]

Anyone thinking KTM will go bankrupt lets speak in 1 years time

[@maxflight777]

You deny facts ?

[@cheeseburger3209]

​@@maxflight777copium

[@Jungleland33]

This is the result of treating your quality control and customers like shit. Tbphwy I'm surprised they lasted this long. I'm genuinely sorry for the ordinary staff as they had nothing to do with this.

[@maxflight777]

Bullshit

[@jjohnnyqquest7900]

I love these bikes, but they’re too expensive !!! Maybe lower the prices, and maybe people will start buying ??? 😅😅😅

[@marksimpson5218]

So it’s nothing to do with reliability then?

[@maxflight777]

The bikes are fantastic value.

[@ianjohnson1207]

@@marksimpson5218 No more issues than any other brand

[@graemesydney38]

I suss KTM will just be one of many in both the bike world and the car world. There are many factors in play; aging populations, growing wage disparity, cost of living/housing, war and inflation caused by war, and the disruptive effect of the Green/environment on the I.C.E.'s future. And then we have the wild card of Donald J Trump and this potential negative effect on the world economy.

[@cheeseburger3209]

Or potential positive effect of DJT. Economy was better for me back in 2017