What Would a Second US Civil War Really Look Like?

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[@micktrzero8401]

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. -Abraham Lincoln

[@Gangsta1168]

So how many times did you VOTE?? 😂😂

[@rogerwhite95]

We are seeing exactly this happen, increasingly, the past few years.

[@Ninjadaddy777]

​@@Gangsta1168 Keep telling yourself that's gonna matter. We all vote. Doesn't mean they get counted, or even matter. You're OBVIOUSLY blind to reality. You must have missed the last election...😂🤣😂

[@iliya3110]

@@Gangsta1168it’s not a function of voting

[@danielm5161]

An American civil war would be a riot of people yelling at the clouds.

[@jackashmore]

I find it hilarious that in the movie half the states didn’t even participate which honestly seems pretty accurate.

[@ronyolo8419]

I’m in Missouri we’re not doing shit lol.

[@jasonswitzer1748]

Where’s Michigan? They couldn’t be bothered to put us in an infographic?

[@GenericJeebus]

@@ronyolo8419 Hey same brother lol I feel like if anything half of us would hide out in the ozarks and the other half would just keep going to work since a civil war might mean less traffic on I-49 or something

[@saphironkindris]

I'd imagine that to still be the case, certain Areas like Wyoming are just... not really relevant? I don't think either side would be looking to burn down America's farmlands scorched earth style. Nobody is really going to want to march through Nevada. etc.

[@jonschreiners5006]

Texas and California formed an alliance for the “Western Forces” and that seems like the most ridiculous part.

[@aravel5249]

“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.” ― George Carlin

[@CortexNewsService]

And they don't even have to be that large. The grand total of active fighters in the troubles was 3,000, both sides combined, out of a population of 1.5 million.

[@themollerz]

See Jan 6

[@TheBaconStrip]

​@@themollerzyou can say that again! Just because trump couldn't loose like a normal human being. No, he had to be a baby about it.

[@dedgzus6808]

@@themollerz See Jan 6th trials.

[@jayr7890]

​@@themollerzor literally any group of leftists

[@alpinejonny]

This video was probably comforting back when it came out, but now in February 2025 it is just completely terrifying

[@HighInquisitor35]

'Not in economic freefall' - well shit 'Not in point of crisis' - well we only pissed off the entire world no big deal right?... Right?

[@knightfire0]

@@HighInquisitor35 Now now the economic freefall hasn't started yet. Of course if trump goes through with his tariffs that will change quickly.

[@tjofrasse]

Let's not forget that a weak USA could be in the interest of several other nations. Violent extremists could be supported and encouraged by foreign powers.

[@shinkicker404]

yeah, with the way the world is going atm... would be great if you guys weren't turning on each other. Thanks media.

[@strongmermaid4651]

Open boarders

[@ASNS117Zero]

This is 100% going on, on both sides of the argument. Probably by the same foreign powers toward both sides, honestly. A lot of the stuff that's getting Americans at each others throats is just... frankly petty bullshit. It's the kind of arguing children get into.

[@NecroAsphyxia]

Like, how many foreign powers do you think are behind the Antifa/BLM/whatever the flavor of the month riots?

[@watermenjohn4574]

You spelled CIA wrong 😂

[@AJ-lu3wx]

American ruling elite: "As long as citizens aren't climbing over our guarded gates, we are ok." This is a NOT OK view.

[@IMTC-ri9jw]

when we except jan 6 we are in trouble, something like that wouldn't be accepted by any democratic country in the west. MAGA thinks they win the election regardless of the vote count, that's a problem.

[@gogidolim]

Hancock Park and South Central are just a few miles away, and during the LA riot that wealthy neighborhood was heavily protected by the LAPD. The rioters are diverted to the K-town.

[@ericguzman4043]

@@gogidolim you know a "few miles" in LA means a lot right? plus they are opportunist not Division 1 tri-athletes, how many normal american you think can run a 5k and then have enough in the gas tank to loot/riot because chances are you're not going to be driving to hancock park in the middle of a riot.

[@Poopboy1999]

@@AJ-lu3wx I'm just grateful that we have the opportunity to reach that point. Not everyone can make it. Otherwise, such a standing is meaningless. But I certainly don't recall the cost of living being this horrible or the housing market crashing under his presidency. Also, if you truly want to see some real, positive change, vote Libertarian.

[@Ursicus-td8zt]

​@@gogidolimhonestly, good. A lot of people think that it was because of Rodney King that the race riots began. The reality was it was the Korean store owner who shot that little girl in the back after accusing her of stealing orange juice. She didn't steal the orange juice but she was murdered nonetheless, and the Korean store owner who killed her got away with it.

[@jordanjay1479]

The Revolutionary War was technically the first Civil War. There were a huge amount of Loyalists that fought.

[@kambhamra2324]

Thanks I've been saying this.

[@terryjross]

Sure…blame Canada 😅 If Americans lost that war…they’d be Canadians.

[@LadyKieraHaze]

@@terryjross What..?

[@niceguyniko]

LOL wat

[@EthanRom]

Same thought. I never understood how it was a revolution when the Americans themselves were basically immigrants from the UK. Most Revolutionary Wars across the globe are usually natives or original inhabitants fighting off a colonizer or outside threat

[@angelonemo5551]

"It can't happen here." It already happened. It can indeed happen again.

[@GotHoai]

Americans just don't realize how comfortable we are .Things may not be the best but a war in our own backyards will make things way worse, Millions will die either though violence or hunger and our lives will never be the same

[@occamraiser]

yep - that's what wars do.

[@daltonking6956]

I think that's the point, both sides wants their lives to change drastically, it's just a difference in how, and in the end nobody is going to get what they want.

[@ghostedyoutuber263]

Indeed, 1rst world problems.... are not problems. Based on obesity numbers, there will be no war. All of the combatants would die of heart attack and obesity before they could actually engage in combat... not to mention lack of metformin for their diabetes.

[@GusOfTheDorks]

Man, its almost like sometimes people are willing to sacrafice comfort in the name of whats right. Who woulda guessed?

[@jackashmore]

I think in the end the majority of Americans won’t ever do anything, small group would probs pop up but that will be squashed quick and quietly.

[@rammul7801]

If you want to listen to the opinion of a Syrian. My country had a civil war that we still live with its ongoing effects. I know about the Lebanese civil war. They are ugly. They are scary. They never go as expected. They always drag on of years or decades. They end up with failed divided states. Destroyed economy. Counties lose their identity. They are never the same. You lose your memories. Your homes. Your neighborhoods. Your cities. Your enemy is your brother. Your neighbor. Your friend.

[@craiggillett5985]

Thank you for your opinion

[@OverlyGassed]

This needs to be pinned. @Warographics do ya thang.

[@sanityshorror]

As an American, I just want to apologize on behalf of my government constantly intervening in Syria and the middle East in general. I have absolutely no control over my government, they forcefully take my hard earned money (I am self employed and work 12 hour days 6 days), and call it taxation. But the taxation doesn't go to help the every day American, it goes to the war machine. It makes me disgusted that my money has been used against my will to commit atrocious actions and/or "stir the pot" in the way that feeds the military machine... English is my second language, I'm not from here originally. So my perspective is complex and nuanced. Ultimately, I believe the USA Government are the main problem in the world currently. I think things will be better, for the world as well as for Americans, once a revolution happen. I am hopeful to see our constitution and principles reinstated. Maybe it's bias, but I know many non westerns and Europeans would prefer if there must be a global super power... Russia is preferable to the United States. This is not to say Russia is eutopia, not even closer to one. Russia has a much better track record of trying to use treaties and sticking to them unless there other party breaks it, Russia does not intervene to the extent USA does, and Russia does not have white supremacy complex such as USA. This is getting rambling but I pray to God/Allah that there will be one day global peace. I wish we will all stop fighting, and instead sit down to discuss every day things ...it will lead humanity to realize we have much more in common than not

[@Winstonrodney6989]

Your Civil war started because the government was doing horrible things to the people. Our civil war is going to start because people watch too many propaganda KZbin videos about how bad everything in our country is, even though life here is pretty sweet compared to most of the rest of the world. People are bored and spoiled and ready to destroy their country over nothing. They know not what they wish for.

[@ANTHONYWMITCHELL]

Well said sir

[@sharonsloan]

I was raised in one of the more peaceful parts of Northern Ireland during the troubles. When you are exposed to news of bombings and shootings daily, it doesn't stop you going somewhere like Belfast or Derry/Londonderry, or on a night out it makes you more vigilant. Bombs could be anywhere so you remained vigilant when out and about. You'll swerve the car to avoid a paper/plastic bag in the road, it could hold a device there to ambush security forces. I remember opening my bag to be security checked before entering shops, that becomes normal. We checked behind/under stock in shops for hidden devices before closing time. There were also things like 'bomb sales' where the shops sold everything for dirt cheap after a bomb went off. Sometimes the glass/smoke smell came out of the clothes/items, and sometimes they didn't.

[@JakeSezz]

I’m currently in grad school and one of my classes is around Social Reconciliation (which will include a 2 weeks trip to Ireland/NI next month) and this is an interesting perspective, in reference to what I’ve read thus far. As an American in his early 40’s, I feel like The Troubles wasn’t as discussed or covered on the news as much. I appreciate your perspective, especially on a topic like this video and from a recent more-West-related conflict.

[@Tmaget]

That is horrifying, and thank you for sharing.

[@drakedoss1975]

Wild

[@Vangluss]

“Sometimes the glass/smoke came out of the clothes/items, and sometimes they didn’t.” Chilling

[@Verita1975]

Same in South Africa in the 80s I remember you could not go to a shopping mall without going through a metal detector .. the Police also came to our school and showed us what a limpet mine was … also didn’t stop us living life ! Oh and all white schools had cadets .. yes we had .22 rifles and were drilled on how to march and shoot …

[@Dirt2Doorbell]

"things have since, simmered down..." This aged well.

[@Isurusish]

A British man just told them not to stockpile ammunition. They're all running out to buy more right now

[@firefly9838]

What?😏 noooooo.... we would never stockpile.... never ever....

[@Freespeechrestrictedonyoutube]

It's absurd for any European to lecture us Americans about guns and I watch this with a grain of salt because Simon is obviously a leftist with TDS. He put his passive aggressive viewpoints throughout his videos. He could be very influential to weak minded people

[@jeremyfleshman3865]

You're speaking crazy thoughts, there's no longer any private stockpiles in America. We all lost our supplies in the fire and when the boat sunk....

[@Freespeechrestrictedonyoutube]

@@jeremyfleshman3865 totally man. I lost mine in a Puget Sound boating accident. I only have fishing poles

[@DaveCorning-m4v]

Hahaha 👍 never stopped

[@jimmyrants4342]

To have a Civil War, one would have to get off the couch.

[@stewarttomkinson3356]

The left won’t

[@ericv7720]

​@@stewarttomkinson3356No, you must be talking about Meal Team Six.

[@stewarttomkinson3356]

@@ericv7720 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@Moores1920]

This👆

[@smugmode]

The South will rise again riding Rascals!

[@RonColeArt]

Famous last words... "Are you crazy, THAT will NEVER happen".

[@danielmart7940]

No, those words came before the real last words,,,,"oh fk"))))

[@pariss1445]

Extra famous with cheese.

[@michaellinderman8635]

Let's hope that fr doesn't happen

[@WilliamMorris-vo5de]

I would never say never! A rogue gov't could create conditions that freedom loving people could not tolerate!

[@hasletjoe5984]

@@michaellinderman8635 You mean like ANTIFA or the BLM?

[@CollinCook-em4qg]

Calling us a democracy is laughable. Idk feels more like an oligarchy.

[@Ohm71]

you should trust your feelings

[@Neme112]

@ContentEnjoyer-gm3ky Democracy isn't the opposite of a republic. You can be both, and USA is both. It's a democratic republic.

[@coryhoggatt7691]

@@Neme112nope. It’s a corporate oligarchy that was accomplished by subverting a constitutional republic, that maintains a veneer of democracy.

[@thanhvinhnguyento7069]

​@@Neme112 democracy's already dead. Americans abandoned it

[@1mandanceparty]

It is.

[@sleepyprinny]

As an American myself... I'm not really keen on a civil war.

[@Superbatmanbro]

As a Haitian-American That's lived here for 19 years. I agree ,and think the Civil War would mostly like be held on Twitter by sending mean tweets 😂

[@devotedtodestruction]

Sounds like a good time.

[@TheRealSykx]

​@@devotedtodestruction someday you'll mature

[@devotedtodestruction]

@@TheRealSykx war doesn’t come from a place of immaturity. We need to conserve our ideals and traditions.. not whatever the f*ck America has become. Maybe it’s you that needs to mature.

[@TheRealSykx]

@@devotedtodestruction your words prove my point better than I ever could, thank you.

[@Lyricaon]

People in my country joke that there could never be a civil uprising in the USA because there is no US embassy to stage it.

[@xanderunderwoods3363]

Ah yes Bolivia

[@GameFuMaster]

Well, if you have Russian one, then there's always the possibility as well. Or they could label you terrorists and just invade outright lol

[@proudamerican9067]

Unfortunately this is true. Great comment. I hate how our elite politicians stir up crap in other countries.

[@cameronpowell6778]

Destabilizing the eastern hemisphere while dominating the western hemisphere is an effective way to maintain the power gap.

[@stodgycat]

That's ok we have a Russian Embassy they've taken over Civil Wars in West Africa why not here?

[@hiroprotagonist451]

It's more like some Americans have romanticized civil war and have no idea of the realities of such a conflict would bring.

[@allmondangus]

Get rid of Biden and they'll be no worry He's selling us out to the rest of the world to put profit in his pocket

[@als3022]

Or see enough issues or have been victims of violence from the other side enough to see its dire necessity. And with those in charge getting rid of peaceful ways of resistance left and right, it makes violence inevitable.

[@tycertd]

Every nation has romanticized war in general, without any idea of the realities associated with such conflicts

[@xgymratx]

General Rittenhouse is STOKED

[@user-vw6so1mb6t]

That's exactly what's going on- thank you for being a voice of reason!

[@silverdragon4344]

"Countries are most vulnerable to civil war when they are somewhere between dictatorship and liberal democracy"..... 9 months after this video was released and here we are today... closer then ever.

[@OncleClara]

These are dark times indeed :(

[@Sophistry0001]

Oh, and that's 393 million *registered* guns. It's been legal to manufacture your own personal firearm since 1776

[@PeruvianPotato]

"Why is our society so low-trust?" Also Americans:

[@Sophistry0001]

@@PeruvianPotato we used to be able to mail order fully automatic machine guns that shipped right to your front door, no FFL transfer or NICS background check. This was a time when America was as high trust as its ever been post WW2. America is turning into a low trust society because our institutions have done nothing but consistently lie to us and fail us decade after decade. People are just starting to realize it is all. Its like an abusive spouse who lies and cheats and then asks "why doesn't my SO trust me"

[@tackcolin6645]

Can't ever trust a government to do the right thing😏

[@Gangsta1168]

Really.. So people didn't make guns before 1776?? 😄😄😄

[@Dan-fm9gs]

please tell me what federal agency you registered your guns with....

[@N7-WAR-HOUND]

4min since the video went up and I’m already seeing Articles by experts on a 23+ minute video

[@UnknownUser-fe5zu]

KZbin comments 😂

[@jayhub24]

Hoping to see this logical comment lol - wild

[@ibrahimchowdhury9779]

yt comments in a nutshell 😂

[@RAS_Squints]

"I have a degree from the university of Reddit so I know what I am talking about"

[@dx-ek4vr]

We are not beating the “dead internet” allegations

[@Dragging79]

I spent 8 months in Afghanistan 🇦🇫. Fuck war and anyone pulling for it. War ruins everything it touches.

[@LegoGirl1990]

Honest question: What's the alternative way to keep demonrats from destroying the country? Because I don't see one.

[@dohadeer8242]

Only someone from a particularly entitled life would write something so utterly inane. You Karens are why the rest of us can't have nice things!

[@randyboisa6367]

Yeah, sure you spent 8 months in Afghanistan, OK there then Audie Murphy! Or better yet Staff Sergent Salvatore Giunta!

[@staceyhartman6825]

Let me know when ur nads drop.

[@cmnk.556seren]

Sounds about right to me.😮 WAR is NO fun and I believe it would destroy alot of things, and kill alot of people😢😢 Like they say War is Hell!

[@hpgdovin]

This video hits differently after watching Luigi be praised as the hero he is and the government being assembled by literal criminals and the insanely rich. I'm not feeling very confident.

[@Solaris_Paradox]

The United States is most likely going to have a racial civil war rather than giving every American universal healthcare.

[@erikolsen1333]

😂❤❤❤

[@erikolsen1333]

Class war…

[@e.rojas9248]

I wouldn’t worry too much, American culture is very pro independent. Most Americans are too lazy or “it’s not my problem no point in stepping in” to do anything. That’s what mega corporations want since it yields more profit.

[@aethylwulfeiii6502]

He’s really just a Raskolnikov.

[@k.williamelliott7969]

The first civil war had clear "enemies" with uniformed armies. The next one will be a little more vague.

[@HeavyMetal45]

They usually have purple hair…

[@luckyguy600]

Dam! That is the best part. Long lines of troops curving up the hills at Manassas. Very colourful & dramatic. It used to be the glint off the bayonet, but now it will be the reflection off your cell phone screen! Never happen. Everybody is too fat/lazy/and couldn't give a poop/ unless you might get a new Apple 33 Phone out of the deal.

[@ir8free]

@@HeavyMetal45 feminazis are less likely to own guns than dog-killing karens.

[@piggy59873]

It will be democrats against Republicans. Not north against south

[@k.williamelliott7969]

@@piggy59873 North and South was the first civil war. In my opinion, the next civil war will be conservative against progressive.

[@RyanJosepher]

As a Vet, and an American, it's my Right and duty to pursue happiness, and to be able to express my civil rights. Currently I don't feel safe, happy or secure. I feel like I'm not represented, and see and hear tyranny and corruption.

[@donaldvanostrand4206]

Go touch grass

[@CraigAnderson-h2h]

Me too.

[@PeachM0de]

Someone’s a Trump supporter. Wake up and stop drinking the kool-aid. He’s a reincarnation of Jim Jones.

[@johannjohann6523]

Taxation without representation. All liberal policies of the Democrat party, who has turned its back on the American people seem to be pushing the country to civil war. Otherwise they would not embrace millions of illegal aliens they invited into the country at taxpayer expense. We have seen there are limits to a two party system where age and term limits do not keep the politicians in check. For they never retire or give up their seat only upon death. I too agree with you the corruption of the Democrats can only lead one to believe they have sold out to America's enemies. And it was the Democrats who started the first civil war, so why not the 2nd? It's in their history against this once beacon of light in the world of oppression and evil dictators.

[@finished6267]

being a grown man ain't about being fucking happy. That's our main issue, expectations.

[@johnkearns6048]

In 1906, Alfred Henry Lewis stated, “There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy.”

[@Helm-w1q]

Which is what a civil war will be like.

[@Loki.Lyesmyth]

And all us ignorant farmers and truckers have to do is cut off the food supply and fuel supply and watch the masses feed on themselves. Last time I checked, the liberal hives don’t actually grow their own food, provide their own resources or care about the actually humans who provide their ways of life.

[@myprivatewar]

9 ? 😂😂 fat America will be arming up after 4 😂😂

[@misterwhipple2870]

Yes, in an era with almost no refrigeration nor modern food-processing, everything had to be bought or gathered every single day and prepared every single day. Still, it's equally true today. If the power goes out, kaaaaaa-BOOOOOOM. There is one consolation: all the other countries on Earth are in the same boat. If the Brewskis or the Ch*nks start some sh*t, we can take them with us.

[@johnrajtar9829]

Absolute truth !

[@jimsnyder1745]

We are dangerously close to finding out.

[@marcusmoon1000]

Another important factor in civil war and unrest is a large percentage of disaffected young men. The dropping rates of men attending/graduating college, and the declining marriage rate, and the fact that 60% of unmarried men 20-30 years old are not seeking a sexual/romantic relationship, indicates that a large portion of fighting age men have less attachment to the society, whether via opportunity or family. This takes away the standard deterrents that prevent fighting age men from running amok.

[@paulmackay7265]

In recent memory the most uprisings in America happened in the 1960s and early 70s. When many of the uneducated young men were in Vietnam in a useless war. And 60% of young men are not seeking romantic relationships? By that do you mean "starting a family"? You used the term "fighting aged men" twice, so that makes me think you have a certain mentality. I think what you are saying is there are a lot of incels out there. Ya know what? That's not a new thing at all. Always been autistic males who can't find a partner. Must suck, but that sounds like a you problem. Neither of my children or any of their friends seem to be having issues with finding a partner.

[@justinmas299]

Save one thing, they're mostly soft pasty whimps. Murders maybe but an army or the like no. Not like Rome.

[@jlqe3401]

Easier to radicalize someone already angry at the system than to convince someone living comfortably that things are going south. The video literally gives us the example of well off Bosniaks in Sarajevo thinking "Naw dog, it won't happen here, it's just those crazy dudes stockpiling ammo because they're angry". No one should wholeheartedly dismiss the possibility that a bunch of down on their luck military aged males will start looking for answers, even if those involve violence.

[@marcusmoon1000]

@@jlqe3401 Yep. We have real problems when we depend on video games and internet porn to help provide political stability.

[@marcusmoon1000]

​@@paulmackay7265 Good points & questions. Thanks for the thoughtful response. I used the term "fighting aged" to connect the nebulous demographic between 18 and 35 to connect that age range to civil war. Not a mentality, just a shortcut. I mean 60% are not seeking sex, relationships, or family. They have given up on trying to develop the interpersonal connections that give men meaning, reduce their selfishness, and prompts them to invest in the good of the society as a whole (for the sake of their loved ones.) True, there have always been some INCELs, but historically, most were raised with a dad in the home, so they were shown more responsible, productive manhood. By contrast, 30% of kids are currently being raised without a dad in the home. (It is 75% in the demographics with the highest murder and incarceration rates.) That correlates with radically disproportionate rates of criminality, suicide, addiction, and homicide, and the lowest rates of high school graduation and college attendance. I am willing to bet that you build for your family's future, and that has become a guiding purpose in your life. I know that caring for my family made me more attached to the good of the society as a whole, and I do not think that is unusual. I am also willing to bet the main reason your boys are doing fine is you. Think about who they would be if their main concept of masculinity wasn't because they watched dad going to work and paying bills, solving problems without violence, and holding himself accountable for how his life turned out. What if their image of manhood was based primarily on movies, TV, and the bitter, entitled MGTOW tripe? My observations are NOT a "me thing" because mass shootings, and five-murder weekends in Chicago and Baltimore are not a me thing. Burning down neighborhoods in 2020 was not a me thing. We have canaries dying in the coal mine, and I think that one of the things killing them is a poverty of meaningful intimate relationships. Another one is a dearth of dads being intimately involved in their kids' lives. As a dad, you REALLY matter.

[@angrybob7340]

It won't be North vs South. It will be urban vs rural. Just look at a 2016 voting map. That's your sides.

[@thebluelunarmonkey]

Been saying this for years. west of I-5 and east of I-95 starting below DC and going north will be uncontested marxist territory and no need for red to invade. Red will be going after landlocked blue urban cities in the interior to evict the marxists. Can be done with seige and "borrowing" any logistics found traveling thru the deep red sea surrounding these cities.

[@40knpride]

I'd argue that yes community matters, yet I could tell you that within my town ( graduating class of 48) several lean left, majority leans right but it feels like it'll turn to the left in a decade or so. It also varies town to town

[@jasonbrown5342]

The cities starve if a conflict arises

[@gregwalker6281]

No it'll be democracy against fascist authoritarian dictatorship

[@lakers013]

I think it will be rich vs poor. If you make 100k your considered lower middle class. That's ridiculous!

[@MarkD-vg4st]

A shaker of salt is one thing. The ability of Washington DC to screw up is beyond debate.

[@Strider91]

Ahhh look, an example in incendiary rhetoric

[@bananatreefee]

Jimmy Buffett never found his lost shaker of salt. RIP

[@Ozarks420]

@@Strider91 If you don't see that our government has a two-tier legal system and a pay for play problem then you are a willing fool or just a plain old fool. Not only is incendiary rhetoric needed, but incendiary actions are too.

[@Gangsta1168]

Yeah.. Who gave power, consent, legitimacy, 💵 and weapons to those gangsters to be your GODS?? 😂😂😂

[@brandonknight431]

Especially Biden and the worst most corrupt administration in U.S history

[@hawtgarbage6664]

Welp, I'm more worried about a civil war now than I was about 30 min ago.

[@jellyrcw12]

The problem of a modern civil war is that it wouldn't be regional as much, it'd be neighborhood by neighborhood. Similar to a Balkans situation. EDIT: Everyone reading this needs to work on their reading comprehension. I said *similar* to, not exactly like. The main emphasis of this comment is that it would not have clear cut battle lines like the American civil war of the past, instead lines would vary within one state or even change neighborhood by neighborhood. EDIT 2: I will no longer be replying to most comments, only those that demonstrate a modicum of sense.

[@off6848]

I doubt that because most peoples beliefs aren't very solid its mostly group think. A group of hardcore socialists in a conservative town would quickly conform to conservatism because their opinions aren't based on anything but going with the flow

[@Tab1300]

Think more in the lines of bleeding Kansas.

[@Gizziiusa]

disagree, I think it would be more of urban vs rural. The large cities are the bastions of liberalism (which includes withing it the com-mie nutters called the leftists), (Dems) whereas typical rural America is conservative (Repl)

[@ChickenMcThiccken]

would be "town by town" . police wont play that shit

[@AL-lh2ht]

@@ChickenMcThiccken You assume the police would still be functional

[@CatholicWeeb]

"War doesn't decide who's right, only who's left." - Anais, The Amazing World of Gumball

[@dagoodguy1238]

The real quote is from Bertrand Russell I believe

[@jimjones9239]

Only who is dead and who lives.

[@MarkWeihe-oh8hb]

i love gumball i watch it with my son one of the few new cartoons i actually like, like alot lol its fucking that good very underrated show

[@5.56_Media]

You had me at Catholic but earned my friendship with the Gumball reference

[@randyboisa6367]

"I slit the sheet, the sheet I slit, and on the slitted sheet I sit."- Steve Martin

[@JoellaConover]

"Its hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions then by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong" Thomas Sowell.

[@xElenoiRx]

o/

[@jeffharris7777]

Thomas is a national treasure

[@jacobgleisner5630]

Wish more on my side didn't hate him because his color. Im also sad because more on the other side hate him for his color and what he believes. He's fing brilliant!

[@gmalonesr]

He was referring to unelected Bureaucrats.

[@Redandranger]

Once again Sowell is using hyperbole. In a democracy, the elected decision makers DO pay a price by losing their job via the ballot box. Do lawyers or doctors pay a price for being wrong? Nope. Sowell is just a bloviating bomb thrower.

[@davidhess7410]

Fighting a civil war would require putting down the phone and remote.

[@italia689]

The remote, yes. Not necessarily the phone. It's easier to communicate with others and "spy" on others now more than ever. But maybe you're right: people would then keep their phones off.

[@Pigeonsdidit]

I think you guys forget that takes like 2% of the population to collapse a government I also don’t know how divided the military is so I wouldn’t be surprised if the military split up

[@WTAF1]

Plenty of us waiting to get off the couch and go to work in the name of freedom and democracy against the MAGA movement. Don't you worry about that. 🙂

[@explosivestar1156]

​@@WTAF1and plenty of people are getting off the couch to work against the democrat movement if only we could get rid of both corrupt parties

[@warshield924]

@@italia689 No with weaponized drones they don't even need to put down the remote.

[@mathiasslim]

As an American, I just want candidates who are actually worth voting for, as opposed to voting against.

[@diypictures]

Underrated comment. But people are too busy yelling at the left or right to take a step back.

[@CraigAnderson-h2h]

Sorry, we don't have any.

[@GOFLuvr]

@@diypictures Not so much left and right so much as it's Democrats and Republicans.

[@ericscott9029]

Trump is a very underrated candidate, people just are too brainwashed to see it.

[@Fyoutube-ry1se]

Then vote for the candidate that puts America first Trump 2024 or America is done for.

[@TheBuckeyeHistoryGuy1776]

Well this video is going to get a sudden bump in views

[@Snapper314]

This Nation BARELY avoided a Civil War on July 13th!

[@TheBuckeyeHistoryGuy1776]

@@Snapper314 this nation almost got either a Batman or a Augustus

[@Dogmacracy]

@@Snapper314Do you genuinely think there would have been a Civil War over an assassination that neither side commissioned?

[@jeremybrummel3254]

Unless it's Bernie Sanders, anyone being more popular than Trump is going to be highly suspicious.

[@TheBuckeyeHistoryGuy1776]

@@Dogmacracy ask the Romans and Austrians how charged a assassination would be for a major conflict

[@Hainero2001]

Haha! "go out and stock up on ammunition". Bro, this is America. We're already stocked up. LOL!

[@bodake2557]

Not to mention we know how to make our own 😂

[@squidly1117]

I don't know what you mean. I lost all of mine in a boating accident.

[@scott7452]

@@squidly1117 🤣🤣😂😂

[@Mentallysubnormal]

Have you seen the prices?

[@UberNerd]

Everyone I know who is a gun owner has anywhere from 5000-15,000 rounds on hand. Half of the people I know save their brass because they have a reload station. The US is a very different nation to any other out there. And when it comes to a Civil War... it might not last as long as people think.

[@j.a.8970]

Class war, not culture war.

[@gettinjiggywitit5332]

At the battle of Antietam when soldiers ran out of ammo they picked up rocks and killed the enemy with them.The hate was real.

[@FrankHaul]

Sharpsburg.

[@babagalacticus]

more like early stage "manufactured consent".

[@ninjagirl226]

Is it really hate. Or is it just fear of being killed or fear of being captured? Or is it just trying to fight for your country however you can? Buy time for another brigade to arrive and help or for friends to get away? Or are they just following orders? Motives are complex.

[@joemeyers4131]

That is good since places having rocks that can be chipped to have extra jagged edges ..technique called knapping used too . Rocks can be wielded enforce well when pummeling targets ..using hard quartz stones and hard shapely cobble stones from a creek or such place . Rocks from dry waterways in deserts ..much warped and jagged kinds .

[@heathenhawk853]

at 2nd Manassas at the railroad cut the 9th Louisiana having run out of ammo drove back 2 union assaults with rocks, that is the most famous use of it in the War of Northern Aggression r

[@TheBuckeyeHistoryGuy1776]

Safe to say, this war would take elements of: The French Revolution, The first American Civil War, The Spanish Civil War, and the Breakup of Yugoslavia

[@ms.donaldson2533]

Every single thing you just said had "JESUIT" has the reason behind it. THY Father, who planted your seed of creation was NEVER supposed to be on his knees to "Trust and Believe" that the God of Government, Science or Religion would save him. Jesuit suppression 1773-1814 caused the American Revolution and the War of 1812 that hosted the Battle of Baltimore and raised "the first monument to war dead since Ancient (Canaanite) times" My old neighborhood began as Fort Marshall, where religionist expanded the fight during the Civil War and provided additional FEDERALIZATION of a religious nation the grew to a World Warring party of people. F*ck that "mission to create a new world" I like to keep things REAL

[@kenneth6847]

You left out the juntas in Paraguay, Chile, and Argentina.

[@marcallred506]

@@kenneth6847Highly unlikely that the military in the US would overthrow the government. The scenarios described are more likely

[@Americanbadashh]

It would be 90% the last one

[@kevinmcmillin870]

@@marcallred506 Our military is full of tools especially the higher ranks. They’d decapitate a baby if it meant they wouldn’t get demoted

[@dlbracer56]

"If I can make you believe in absurdity, I can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire

[@jamesnabors3643]

Like genitally mutilating children, whom science proves are 96% likely to be OK with their gender after their brain develops at age 25. And the number who are actually affected, and not indoctrinated, are a miniscule number to begin with.

[@Andy_Babb]

“What if we just inject Lysol” - Trump

[@brandonbullock9436]

"Men can get pregnant, there are 132 genders, abortion at 9 months is fine, crime and inflation are down, the border is secure"

[@jfkst1]

Hence why there is the emphasis on ignoring basic biological truths such as gender and ethnicity.

[@rinalore9416]

“Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth." *Joseph Goebbels 🤦🏻‍♀️Bad timing, I know.

[@FishingKC15]

I think a Civil war is the US wouldn't be state against state, but rather rural against urban... and urban centers would run out of food really fast if things were "shut down"

[@larrychaney2518]

i think you are correct but how correct i don't know. i think starvation would be problematic on both sides.

[@PheonixT-ki8rx]

​@larrychaney2518 rural is where the crops grow. They would be fine. The USA is 100% self-sufficient for food. We have so much of it that we export it. And since none of it is grown in urban environments and it's 99% controlled by Republicans, it's already over before it starts. The oil fields are also in republican states and hands.

[@dansadventuresacrossameric806]

Us hillbilly country folk would rock those city folk they would all rob each other while we roast turkey and drink beer

[@cohengamertv6548]

Your forgetting most allies would support the democrats

[@derekhayes9854]

We live within an intergraded economic system and an agricultural system run by monopolistic corporate giants and simple power and internet outages paralyze everything. Just give that a thought. Unless the whole country becomes like lawless Missouri in the War of Rebellion or Beirut Lebanon in more recent times I don’t see it happening. Conflicts of the type in Northern Ireland’s urban areas could happen but state police powers would intervene immediately if any working government existed (as in N.I). Just my opinion.

[@memyselfi7292]

It's better to die on your feet the live on your knees.

[@greenghost5009]

Ameen brother

[@DieselisTasty]

Your mom said different. Oh Snap!

[@Rocketrich88]

@@DieselisTasty NERD...

[@Gangsta1168]

@@DieselisTasty i bet you VOTED a lot.. 💯💯😄😄😄

[@liamjohnson2474]

don't tell his wife!

[@MrKKUT1984]

As a 40 year old American I can truly say this is the first time in my lifetime that feels like we are on the verge of something big. The current people in power on both sides do not serve the people. In fact they seemingly do everything we don't want them to do. It won't be just a civil war it would be a real insurrection if something happens. That's how most people in Louisiana feel that I speak to. I hope it doesn't get to that point though.

[@theboyisnotright6312]

I honestly don't hate trumpers. Trump is only a figure because the politicians are so completely and obviously serving the billionaires. Those are the true enemies of America. The billionaires and their toadys in government. It's not your fellow workers who is a Democrat or Republican. The blue red dynamic surprise surprise is pushed by the MSM and government itself. Think people!

[@davinxi5926]

A new revolution

[@jimboniusmaximus6018]

You can’t possibly equate the two sides at this point. I hate partisan politics as much as anyone, but if you seriously think that BOTH sides are EQUALLY against the interests of the people, then you need to get your head out of your own ass.

[@Admiralty86]

LA would be a goner without the feds.

[@aurorab6796]

Unlike what the speaker here says the fight may not be American vs American, it will most likely be American Vs Invader (or what the government keeps telling us are more American than we are).

[@F15ElectricEagle]

"What Would a Second US Civil War Really Look Like?" We'll know after the November 2024 presidential election.

[@toastercannon7941]

Hopefully we won’t

[@the7A7dude]

Oh we will..😊​@toastercannon7941

[@laserswordguy9090]

Trump dummies = democracy means killing people when we don't win

[@MrWildcatz89]

I think it’s inevitable no matter who wins honestly. Way too much division now.

[@bitbucketcynic]

Whoever loses the election starts it. Neither side will accept defeat.

[@draviddecoteau]

2:12 As an alien looking in America is on the 2/3 edge of completing this

[@secretlake5528]

In order to preserve Liberty, the masses must have knowledge John Adams

[@Gangsta1168]

He would be shock if he's alive today.. 😂😂

[@christopherboxford9556]

how the fuck do you maintain a well informed public? Most people are idiots.

[@AmrenMirit]

​@@christopherboxford9556leading by example when times get tough by people with the knowledge.

[@randymillhouse791]

That will never happen. Humans, for the most part, are lazy animals.

[@samr.england613]

@@AmrenMirit Who are these, 'people with the knowledge'?

[@M-_-O]

My therapist: you’re too anxious and paranoid, relax more Me: puts this video on 🙃

[@CollinKillian]

Stop being scared, it would be over quick enough.. Considering the south is basically armed to the point of redundancy, and the leftists can't figure out what bathroom they'll use..

[@MrDibara]

I know it's a joke, but, *the fuck kind of therapist is that?* 😑

[@M-_-O]

@@MrDibara the therapist didn’t suggest the video…

[@ChrisTopherBunnell]

@@M-_-O I'm an incredibly bitter democrat and Iraq War veteran that had my rape reports covered up with a bad paper discharge, leaving me without VA care for the resulting PTSD, attempted suicide and survived with a traumatic brain injury further complicating the mental illness, got victim-blamed and estranged by my military veteran and law enforcement conservative family a decade ago and now a draft dodging rapist and felon has a chance against a prosecutor to be POTUS. My rapist got his honorable discharge. He was never investigated. I hate the nation I served in lies just to be denied justice for a felony and denied the veterans benefits I earned, all because of bigotry harbored by the same party that got me into that pointless war. Thankfully, Biden has gotten me the help I am owed, but my therapists have a massive battle with me.

[@M-_-O]

@@ChrisTopherBunnell it a crime what happened to you. I hope you find a life worth living. Therapy helps when we do the difficult inner work. I try not to compare trauma to others, especially on the internet. Wish you the best, remember it’s progress not perfection.

[@murraybeachtel8585]

Glad you brought up how an American Civil War wouldn't look like the one we had in 1861. Many of us have a GPS pin on that moment in history.

[@SmedleyDouwright]

... for lost fishing equipment?

[@MrAnonymous1515]

It looks like the last 8 years. And will only to continue to escalate

[@golagiswatchingyou2966]

yeah US civil war 2.0 would be worse

[@PeruvianPotato]

Yep it'll probably just be the next Syria and Myanmar

[@AL-lh2ht]

@@PeruvianPotatonope.

[@fayehyuga5259]

This video is starting to get scarily accurate.

[@Ghostfury2004]

What nobody talks about is the global repercussions of an American Civil War a huge power gap will be left I just hope even with all our differences we realize how much we need each other.

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

European countries would be allowed to have an independent policy?

[@Ghostfury2004]

@@constantinethecataphract5949 on?

[@GraniteStateofMind]

@@constantinethecataphract5949you don’t just get US military protection for free

[@weybye91]

So Europe aren't required to kiss the ass of the US, and no more meaningless wars that the US starts and drags NATO into

[@afterafter7199]

And become Russian

[@Bunger3663]

British guy: "America is unlikely to go war with itself." Me, an American living in America dealing with these issues: "Says you."

[@YuniclyYT]

Right lmao

[@faxslaps5775]

I will watch this guy talk about any and every country but the US. We are too complex to have an opinion on. He should just stick to talking about Syria and Venezuela.

[@Mina-ti9nh]

​@@faxslaps5775🤡

[@eugenecrawford14]

America is not a functioning, republic, democracy, or civil government of any sort This guy is clueless

[@Sabbtuna]

Yes feed into what our leaders have done, divided us. They have divided us but they wont conquer us.

[@massacmongo995]

The more telling map for you to consider would be a county map showing the 2020 Election . It reflects a country divided into Urban and Rural .

[@letsgobrandon7297]

And all the food, water and gases come from our (conservative) areas. Not to mention leftist mostly live in cities that are easily surrounded and cut off. We have way more firearms and ammo. 85% of ex special forces are conservative. We have more outdoor survival skills.

[@JerryConverse-i8d]

You noticed that too huh??

[@ieaatclams]

That's in every single country on the planet. Latin America has conservatives in cities and liberals in the countryside

[@AlexChec]

And even more telling is a map that accounts for vote share and population density. What you get is a sea of purple suburbs with pockets of blue and red and a lot of emptiness in the middle.

[@letsgobrandon7297]

@AlexChec: Dense population is easily surround able and cut off from supplies. All the cities water, food and gases come from us conservatives. That’s only one out of many advantages we hold. The guy who made this video will probably delete this comment cause he’s agaisnt free speech unless you’re a democrat. Idk how people can’t see leftist are against the constitution unless it benefits them. It it were up to them we’d have no firearms or free speech.

[@ModernFrontiersman]

I fully expect low intensity conflict within the next 5yrs

[@jamesrizza2640]

It makes me sick just thinking about another civil war in the USA. Abraham Lincoln's quote is chilling but accurate. I don't understand why people are polarizing so much, maybe it's social media. I remember being able to talk, have friends and even date others of opposite views. We need each other, and I think this has been forgotten. Ignorance will cause a civil war. Maybe we have been so isolated from war, only seeing it on TV that we have forgotten how horrific it all really is. I leave with a quote as well; “Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it.” ― George Santayana

[@armandoventura9043]

People become polarized because they adopt an ideology, without realizing that the United States is governed by the rich, the average American thinks that their neighbor is the enemy, just for being a Democrat or Republican, without realizing that the enemy is the government It's a type of thought that cannot be eliminated without shedding blood

[@jamesrizza2640]

@@armandoventura9043 I hope your wrong.

[@MIKEArmbruster-h6z]

Maybe thats why I hate people that burn books ,destroy history, and rewrite history

[@Ironica82]

It really started with the 24 hour news cycle and have only gotten worse with social media. This nation shall fall this century. However, after watching videos like this analyzing a foreign invasion and civil war, it shall most likely be succession that shall destroy the country and create smaller countries.

[@robertfox4524]

People are polarized because our government, and our media lie to us. We are a lot easier to control if our hate is directed at each other, instead of THEM.

[@MoellerMike1977]

People want a Civil War until people have to fight a war. Big difference between talking about a war half way around the world as compared to war where the front line is people's front yards.

[@JW-qf2fx]

yeh won't happen, i get it, people are divided, but the two "sides" that might emerge don't have strong enough opposing beliefs for it to go full scale war. Won't stop US's enemies stoking the fire as much as possible online etc though. Can probably expect more riot fights around the next election

[@usrevenge]

People want civil war because they assume the military would be on their side. Republicans think the military will always side with them because conservative. Democrats think the military will follow whoever is in command/president.

[@koro_kokoro]

If people won’t get involved in Ukraine people won’t get involved in the US. Article 5 will not take effect as it will be an internal issue so no other NATO member will have to go there. The closest thing will be Canada and its allies manning the border to keep the Americans in their own yard

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

If war begins, no one ever wins. The main reason is that war never ends until BOTH sides have exhausted each and all resources. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Bloodshed never dies, little Raeniya." --Llewelyn (DD1) 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨

[@firefly9838]

Personally I liked fighting in war but yeah most people are lazy fucks

[@uJemai]

Unfortunately, the social media fuels this stuff... There isn't a middle ground, you are either on left or on right and they push each other fiercely.

[@NecroAsphyxia]

Honestly the political purity tests I see far more on the left than the right. The Far Left has gotten to the point where they are flaming people like Stephen A Smith and Anna Kasperian, both very much leftists, because they are not mindlessly toeing the line.

[@LeoMajor1]

I grew up a liberal but can't stand the far left and I see the woke side as the most toxic and divisive..... they are the types that will automatically report you for having an opinion they don't like.... they don't care about free speech... if you have an opinion that doesn't align with their agenda they try to cancel you or silence you in some way..... they are far more scarier then the republicans ever were growing up.... at least even hard liner republicans respect the notion of free speech or the right to speak an opinion that they don't agree with. The far left are the types to have you silenced or jailed and truly believe themselves the good guys and sleep peacefully at night while doing it. They remind me of a certain group in the 1930's that put themselves on a pedestal while scapegoating a group of people as the "bad guys who must be silenced and ran out of the country"

[@underarmbowlingincidentof1981]

they all view the others by their worst examples but view their own side by the best of them it's weird US media thrives off of that. "protecting the border" ? Oh thats the first step to NATZI GERMANY. "trans rights" ? Oh thats the first step to COMMMUNISM.

[@jameslovallo9603]

And if you say you're neither, both sides bash you

[@akl2k7]

​@@jameslovallo9603Yeah, there's a whole subreddit called Enlightend Centrists that does this very thing. It's ridiculous.

[@erikolsen1333]

20:07 Luigi is the hero of the people.

[@slovakiaballif24]

I genuinely want to thank you guys for not finger pointing at one side or the other as the definite bad guys who would cause everything, but acknowledged the risk both sides pose to each other.

[@VSPoliFight]

What do you think the section on "the left tooling up in response to the rights escalation" was? It was half the video where he pretended that the blm antifa democrat party sponsored t36606ism didn't happen. That the world started spinning January 6th

[@falconmclenny7284]

​@@VSPoliFightit's funny, the 'rights escalation' is only due to the political, institutional and societal power the left hold, and it's destroying the country. So you either watch that happen, or 'escalate', and then you're the bad guy. It's like when they talk about the right causing a culture war... no no, they are the victims of the culture war, and are now fighting back, they did not cause it. The whole video is proof the left wing narrative is considered the correct and just one, when it just objectively, by any metric, is not.

[@AL-lh2ht]

@@VSPoliFight got more buzzwords?

[@Cheffe919]

It's so funny how Americans still think they have two parties to chose from.

[@davianoinglesias5030]

​@@VSPoliFightthat's because it's just far right white supremacist groups that are known to gun pander

[@aolvaar8792]

Rule of three, 3 minutes without Air, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food.

[@Bill-l9i]

Some of us live off the land , raise our own food, generate our own power, there is around 11.3 million registered hunters in the U S. Of A, Thats who bought licenses, some people don't buy licenses, don't have thier guns registered and live and survive of the land.

[@austin9809]

​@user-kl8zp6mh6r will become significantly harder to do if infrastructure of cities get demolished. Not saying you won't still be living off the land but competition will become fierce amongst you and will likely fall into tribal groups given enough time

[@kregg-hy4gi]

@@austin9809 I think they know they would have to have guns to protect themselves from city folks wandering out into the country to take their stuff. Thing is when you don't know the area you are in danger. Why many country folks don't wander into Chicago, Detroit, NYC. They know they can be beaten, robbed, raped, and murdered without benefit of self defense and those cities have no real issues with criminal behavior and have prosecutors who drop charges often on criminals and their crimes. BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RED COUNTRY and BLUE CITIES. jmho.

[@cmoonkite]

Crops can be burned - not sure people will act rational - remember Gen Sherman and his total war drive to Atlanta and the burning of Atlanta​@user-kl8zp6mh6r

[@stephencox9824]

No cell phones, no internet, no govt. to come to your aid. Sounds real smart! Huh? No Hospitals, no Walmart oh my lord.

[@RealitySurvival]

Stocking up on Ammo is always a good idea... It isn't getting any cheaper. lol

[@sscalercourtney5486]

Both sides had plenty of Ammo during World War II. And over 80 million died. Having ammo doesn't protect you. Only all people agreeing to the rule of law. Understand I kept a pistol in my house for any break-in. But my military experience informed me, that in a war having ammo means nothing in living and dying.

[@jl696]

@@sscalercourtney5486 Better to have ammo than not have it. Better to be armed than not armed. Everything else is pure conjecture.

[@PeruvianPotato]

@@jl696 Till the drone strikes come in because this isn't 1937 anymore where the side with the most ammo wins.

[@jl696]

@@PeruvianPotato We had plenty of drones in Afghanistan. Look who rules Afghanistan today. The Taliban had lots of ammo before we got there. They have lots more since we left.

[@RoninMike-DR]

Guns, gold and real-estate, everything else is a gamble.

[@wDoucheCanoe]

The most unbelievable thing about this video is Marjorie Taylor Greene being a “household name politician”

[@DMM-cv5fh]

I wrote a monograph on the American Civil War in Missouri, my central thesis was that the civil war as it was fought in Missouri (as opposed to the pitched battles in the east) is much more akin to how a second civil war would be fought today. Missouri was a melting pot between north and south and loyalties weren’t geographic, but ideological, denominational, and of course political. We would see bushwhacking in a second civil war taken to a whole new level. Imagine what one modern bolt action deer rifle can do to instil fear, knowing that at anytime you might get bushwhacked. People were routinely lynched or bushwhacked then, but that was with black powder weapons. Now, also add to this that the US has a whole population of those like myself who are Iraq/Afghan war veterans who cut our teeth in asymmetrical warfare and learned the employment IEDs (improvised explosive device) since they were used on us so much. The picture I’m painting only gets worse. Then… China would swoop in like a vulture to finish us off

[@Hunzoyt]

Why would China come in to take land from us in the event of a Second Civil War? That makes no logical sense from a geopolitical standpoint. Maybe it's because you're military like my buddies, but they aren't fooled by the anti-Chinese propaganda nor by CCP lies. Remember, we are in a Second Cold War with Russia and China and we all three spy on each other. China wants to invade Taiwan by 2028 and is gearing up with a war with us for that, why would they want a breakaway state here in the US and how exactly would they get some boys from the USA to support that? The realistic scenario is China supporting whichever side of the American conflict is friendlier towards Chinese business interests, they are a capitalist nation like us. It's simple really, and it makes sense from capitalist's standpoint to do business with the side friendlier to you.

[@nielsenrenovations2160]

So here's my question... Politically, how would you see this going down with a lot of vets? It's automatically assumed that most vets are conservative, but I've seen what appears to be different than that within the past decade or so. What say you , being a vet?

[@evinchester7820]

@@nielsenrenovations2160 I'm a vet. Got deployed for Desert Storm and Joint Endeavor. I had a break for a few years and then in the summer of 2001 in July I joined the National Guard. I'd been active duty and Reservist since I joined in 1985. I am not a "combat" vet. In fact I was sent to Germany both times. My MOS was one of those that is always in short supply and you can operate around the world. I knew by noon on Sept. 12, 2001 that Saddam had nothing to do with the attacks. I knew by Friday night that of the 19 hijackers, 15 did not know it was a sucidie mission. It was later proven I was right by an interview with Bin Ladin about two weeks later. I also knew that there were not any WMD's in Iraq as Bush and Company said there were. And then, came the insurgency. Then came the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. I extended for a year on my enlistment. But half way through I switched to the Inactive National Guard. I did not reup in July when my extension ended. I didn't get called up for either one. I'd had enough. I had friends who were in the Reserves and Guard who got called up four times. I would have been okay with being deployed to the Afghan, but not Iraq. I had family on both sides of the US Civil War. And some who died. I have visited a few of their graves. One is at Andersonville. After the Civil War, Robert E. Lee was brought the US Senate to testify about the war. When asked what he thought the cause of the war was, Lee replied and you can find it in the Congressional Record his reply. Lee said, "The failure of our elected officials to do their jobs." I totally agree with that. If there is one, and I do hope not, it won't be state against state. It will be neighbor against neighbor. Religion against religion spurred on by Christian Nationalists and their religious leaders. And you will have those religious leaders and the likes of Sen. Ted Cruz, Congressional reps like Greene, Boebert, Goetz, Trump, The Catholic Church, MAGA churches and their MAGA pastors, grinning ear to ear as men, and women, young and old march off to fight. And I can tell you this, not one of their children will go. And it will be bloody. Like the US Civil War, it was brother against brother and father against son. But those who yearn for it and pray for it won't send their families to fight. The destruction to our countries infrastructure will be massive. Bridges, highway, roads, rail systems, airport, sea port, will all be wrecked. Power facilities like electric, and fossil fuels will be badly damaged or destroyed. There will be water and sewer damaged or destroyed. The internet will go down. Phone systems will go dead. Radio and TV stations destroyed or very badly damaged. Hospitals will also be targeted. Medical supplies and meds will be rationed and in some cases, not exist. And as a veteran, I will leave the country. The last of my family came here in the year 1778. They'd been coming prior to 1620. I had family fight and die in the American Revaluation. Had many who came here to escape religious persecutions. And you will see places of worship that are not "Christian" targeted. And you will see slaughter directed at their followers just like in the Holocaust. I will leave the US. I may go to Canada or the UK. Maybe even Germany or the Netherlands. There will be a draft. They will need warm bodies. They will call up retired military. Former military. And some with disabilities to put in support positions. And a lot of civilians will also die. There will be famine and rationing as well. My degree is in History. I hope it does not come about. But seeing what happened on the 6th of Jan. 2021, there is that possibility of hit happening again.

[@TSD4027]

How is China going to swoop in like a vulture to finish off the US when it can't even make it here and wouldn't have the ships or resources to sustain an invasion 6,000 miles from home ports?

[@clifthorburn776]

You should know that what everyone seen on Januay 6th, 2021 was not an attempt to overthrow the government as Liberals and RINOS have painted it to be. If there had been an inkling of that sort of action being planned the participants would have came fully armed. It is with more probability that the Deep State engaged the letter agencies to pull an enacted uprising. There is evidence to support that, as it is now known there were FBI agents wearing clothes to appear as protesters who were in the crowd and actively orchestrating the actions. Then you had Capital Police who actually were caught on film ushering people into the building. Even now there are literally thousands of hours of film that the government won't let the people view. Just too many fishy bits of info to ignore.

[@mikshawful]

The "Civil War" film was completely unbelievable, simply from the fact that there were so many unarmed folks in a country that has more guns than people.

[@carsonlantz6293]

That aspect of it wasn't the least bit unbelievable. Less than 50% of Americans own a single gun, and this is more heavily skewed if you factor in geography. 22% of Illinois residents own a gun, and you can bet that most of those gun owners live outside of Chicago. On the other hand, 66% of Montana residents own a gun.

[@mikshawful]

@@carsonlantz6293: There are still more guns than people. If there is a credible threat of civil war, i am 100% certain that most people who aren't now armed will be.

[@themanifestorsmind]

Some people have many guns while others have no guns. Some people stockpile guns, while others are afraid of guns.

[@smgwarrelics]

That movie sucked hard

[@lennysmith8851]

The “Civil War” film was trash. Very underdone plot.

[@frankevangelista2642]

A house divided cannot stand.Our enemies will see this as weakness

[@danroseveare3090]

They already do.

[@serdna9307]

The government is the enemy now

[@keithosmond5730]

@@danroseveare3090 And are taking advantage with disinformation through social media... and, increasingly, by having useful idiots like MTG parrot their propaganda.

[@ricardoperez2031]

The US would have No enemies if the US would stop making them around the world.

[@bosatsu76]

Thank a republican for that... Non stop butt hurt whining about everything in life... Threatening civil war 2.0 for DECADES now. Can't let go of the last time they tried to break America and lost... Gullible useful idiots for the disinformation warfare brought to America by the Heritage Foundation, russia, china, pakistan, and every other hater of America...

[@josephfarkas5657]

Welp. 9 months later, and now it's looking pretty certain we're headed for civil war.

[@Cheshire020]

Hopefully this will be a thought exercise we can look back on, and give a sigh of relief that it never happened.

[@tuckcollins8276]

I really hope so.

[@Ben-vu4qf]

Very doubtful at this point it has to happen. And soon might I add they’ve gone completely mad

[@MrAnonymous1515]

It has already started. Democrats want a one party nation. They don't want to power share. They want to dominate. When they lost in 2016, they went fully insane.

[@westsonrises]

There's definitely going to be internal conflict Whether it's revolution or civil war is the question

[@caliburn1123]

Yet

[@JamesHavlin-ez4gw]

This won’t be a civil war like 1860’s but a Mad Max on steroids…….

[@1schwererziehbar1]

It will be Mad Max on Ozempic.

[@tomtravis3077]

😂😂😂😂​@@1schwererziehbar1

[@luckyguy600]

Oh. So I should hold off heading down to Antietam to get a good campsite?

[@JamesHavlin-ez4gw]

@@luckyguy600 A country cannot fall from without but first from falling from within…..

[@donniebrasco4114]

Hopefully!

[@wearebecomedeathstar2658]

Actually, America isn't a functional democracy, statistically popular opinion for a bill only leads to that bill passing 10% of the time. Where as Corperations and lobbyist intrests get their way 90% of the time. That's definitionally a functional kleptocracy, not a democracy, even if there's voting to decide who does the corporate bidding.

[@browhatisthis37]

It's at least one of the MOST functioning democracies in the world. I think that says more about the world as a whole honestly

[@Rob_F8F]

Where do the stats you cite come from?

[@AL-lh2ht]

Yea that one politically charged study is such a good resources. Man I wish there was more then one paper that exists.

[@AL-lh2ht]

@@Rob_F8FI highly discredited “study”.

[@anarcho-savagery2097]

That's capitalism in action.

[@horst-kevinkrawuttke968]

If the kind of civil war you describe would happen, the outcome might be even worse: If at some point during this scenario one side thinks they're close to total annihilation, they might even try to nuke the other side, like "When we go down once and for all, we will at least make sure the enemy will, too."

[@tarnocdoino3857]

It felt more like a how to video. The true reality is that more people are concerned with distractions than life. If that stays in place, there never will be a war.

[@flpanhead]

Mr. Smartypants: "America is too sophisticated to have a civil war." America: "hold my beer."

[@nicolasolton]

Why hold your beer? Why not milk, tea, or cola?

[@LAkadian]

Popular memes are not clever and do not contribute anything, and don't deserve upvotes.

[@N7-WAR-HOUND]

@@LAkadian you must be Drowning In females

[@adamschrader328]

@@LAkadian Some are very clever.

[@PeruvianPotato]

@@adamschrader328 No they aren't. Maybe if you're a chantard sure but there's a reason why many respected political thinkers and philosophers don't just parrot formats that were already established and popularized.

[@alejobola]

"(...) but, the point isn't that America could reproduce all the horrors of The Troubles just with more cargo shorts and different accents" 🤣🤣 I died with that wry British humor

[@ms.donaldson2533]

Your comment is priceless..... "Americans" were really created in Baltimore. "The troubles with more cargo shorts" ..... while the Key Bridge is blocking the Port of Baltimore I'm a Loyalist in Baltimore, watching as the Patriots are under attack and "Trust and believe" that they should all get down on their knees and pray about "The accident"

[@fredclements6843]

Well I can tell you got most of your information from the liberal media!

[@waynemathias8074]

Excellent summary. Another famous example of ideological conflict is the Spanish Civil War (1936-39). The social fragmentation and resentments developed over many years, exacerbated by economic depression and imperial collapse. The 1936 election was the last straw, triggering tit-for-tat assassinations and the attempted coup d'etat that divided the military against itself and drew in outside forces (Germany, Italy, USSR, & the "International Brigades"). Mountains of books have been written on it. As one of the worst-case scenarios, it deserves closer attention. In our case, we cannot rule out the possibility of allies and rival powers becoming involved.

[@SusCalvin]

It always reminds me of how other states play in. No one gets to have a civil war completely undisturbed. Even being recognized internationally as the legit US government by the EU or China or Saudi Arabia etc would be a big deal.

[@off6848]

And Franco won and Spain prospered for 60 years.

[@SusCalvin]

@@off6848 As stable and fun as it gets in a fascist dictatorship.

[@adriantallent8557]

This is true. America being a global superpower means that literally the entire world would have a stake in a new civil war here. Current antagonists like Russia and North Korea would seek to fan the flames while globalist nation groups like the EU might try to arrest the collapse or smooth its outcome. Economic knock-on effects might trigger collapses in other nations like what we saw in Greece during the Great Recession. Any conflagration of violence that takes place here won't stay local for long.

[@JamesBrown-js3lm]

I’m a little concerned about the climate in America is right now and the media seems to be fanning the flames. People are getting edgy because everyone is being pitted against each other for a plethora of reasons, race, gender, religion, political views etc, just pick your favorite one. We need to stop letting the media dictate our thoughts and opinions.

[@genkiferal7178]

well, they influence laws and politicians, don't they - and we then have to live with those changes...

[@JayWalsh]

If you can understand one thing, then the perspective become clearer: if social media didn't exist, we wouldn't be talking about this.

[@kenneth6847]

If the legacy media wasn’t around we woukdn’t worry about it being seeded

[@NeighborhoodOfBlue]

Social media amplifies what would otherwise be pockets of unrest. Media as a whole warps reality.

[@Garkin58]

​@@NeighborhoodOfBlue not even reality is always as it seems

[@cjs6085]

The first one happened without it. Maybe it’s inevitable? Cyclical?

[@localenterprisebroadcastin5971]

“People who don’t know what bathroom to use aren’t a threat on a battlefield…just the classroom” 1sr Sgt Fortune 3rd CEB USMC

[@luckyguy600]

If it happens, can I write off losses on my taxes? Just a thought.

[@greatcondor8678]

You still pay taxes? I don't.

[@crasher925]

depends on the resolution honestly

[@ChrisTopherBunnell]

@@greatcondor8678 Neither do I! Not because I'm an unpatriotic crook, but because I'm a disabled war veteran and Veterans Disability is tax-free. Maybe you should try out my "hack" to avoid taxes?!

[@NateTheNarrator]

Better yet, you won't have to pay ANY taxes if something like that pops off.

[@Jason1717171717]

I can tell you with absolute certainty that 95%+ of people who think they will do something - will do absolutely nothing when the rubber meets the road.

[@Hippie-r4g]

Yep,large mouths, little brains,no testicles.... agreed 💯

[@eccentricity2277]

The greater threat is if the military fractures as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs has expressed concern could happen. We have Ohio class boomers out there that can lay waste to entire cities. It only takes one rogue commander.

[@corbinhbucknerjr558]

Ok, 95%. That leaves 5%. 5% of 350 million is 17,500,000.

[@eccentricity2277]

I wonder what that figure is realistically and also what that figure was during the first Civil War and the American Revolution? People are too comfortable now. Our taxes were lower under King George than they are now and....crickets....

[@Hippie-r4g]

@@corbinhbucknerjr558 Little minds... Big mouths... No Balls.... Any arguments ?

[@Kilonovae]

I cant wait to see how well or how poorly this ages

[@BillMcSwain]

Things have not settled down. If you thought 2020 was gonna be crazy wait until November.

[@WardDorrity]

Just wait until this summer.

[@emilysind3676]

@@WardDorritythat’s what I’ve been saying. Strap up bc campaigning is gonna get crazy and our cities might burn again worse than last time… the free Palestine protesters are already causing a ruckus…

[@scottfraser706]

Sorry but we're taking Vermont and Maine for the maple syrup 🍁 🇨🇦🦫

[@spook75a28]

@@WardDorrity BLM will be back on the attack. Riots always seem to happen on election years.

[@deebrown7160]

​@@scottfraser706 I'm coming with my waffle maker

[@jfilm7466]

When the government and influencers tell you you don't need arms, don't you really really need arms?

[@PeruvianPotato]

Yeah because no other functioning country hates each other so much that they need guns to feel safe as if anything, shows much about the low trust in Americans in 2024.

[@stewarttomkinson3356]

Yes you do

[@StephenKershaw1]

sounds like a paranoid delusional thinking....

[@apstech4618]

@@StephenKershaw1 eff around and find out though lol

[@StephenKershaw1]

@@apstech4618 pffft... you're the one that will be left where you were dropped son

[@Dab__Bod]

*hears Teacup voice* *grabs musket* Sorry. Habit.

[@elikelly4948]

Muskets are handy though, gotta say. A sword and a gun in one! lol

[@lunarsoul1737]

​@@elikelly4948isn't that a bayonette?

[@elikelly4948]

@@lunarsoul1737 You're right...and now I'm embarrassed.

[@grmpEqweer]

​@@elikelly4948 Muskets are interesting, but they take 30 seconds for a practiced person to load.

[@KenHubbard-jz1vq]

​@@grmpEqweerIM FAIRLY SURE YOUR FRIENDS WOLD GIVE YOU MACHINE GUNS OR WHAT EVER. WILL HURRY UP YOUR DEMISE

[@alexneff]

The ATF has raided a property, seizing an undisclosed amount of weapons. A number of individuals have been apprehended, and that's all the public needs to know at this time

[@dailyqwikbytes]

"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."

[@SusCalvin]

I like the field of non-state armed group economy. An IRA man, a taliban, a cuban communist etc who wants to be a full-time fighter for the Cause still needs the basic human needs met. It's like with state armed forces. A lot if not the majority of people are not frontline trigger men. Someone needs to cook for that IS fighter, someone needs to collect the revolutionary tax, someone has to collect and move kit. When you have military control of an area you can start to tax it. Local business, routes, some raw material or what have you. Groups without territoral control like the IRA could still run effectively protection rackets.

[@dailyqwikbytes]

@@SusCalvin Well the overall problem for any US faction, large or small, and the world economy is that the entire world is dependent on Mr and Mrs America buying mass quantities of mostly useless cheaply produced crap each and every weekend. Anything that interrupts that knocks all the dominoes over. We live in interesting times.

[@floydholder597]

Kind of like where do the "blue" cities surrounded by "red" rural areas get their water, power, and food from?

[@MightyAA251]

@@floydholder597 Agreed, but flip it too. Population; hungry, angry City folk outnumber rural several thousand to one. The Cities are where armies are recruited and where things are built.. Rural will have a hard time taking a city, but not so much reversed with equipment, manpower, and a will to provide for your family.

[@floydholder597]

LMFAO! You'd have to be able to find us 1st fool. And don't forget who's got homefield advantage. And are you going to be able to protect and guard all of the powerlines, gas pipelines, pumping stations and your water supply systems? And who do you think grows the vast majority of your food? Do you think you can just form a big group and come out to take what you want? We don't have to come into your cities for anything, ya'll on the other hand?

[@ivanvega169]

Here in Argentina, we're going through an economic crisis, 50% of the people are below the poverty line. Middle class is struggling, and we have the media so polarized between left and right, that they even mentioned a few times now "civil war", I don't know if our country is going to have one but I know that we are never going to unite as much as when our country plays football at the world cup, stay safe people 😊.

[@FATHOLLYWOODB123]

At least you finally have a competent and educated leader, not like America currently hahaha

[@eaglerider1826]

You missed the part where last month your government actually has a budget surplus . The first time in over 20 years .

[@classiccom1953]

At least Argentina was a Catholic country. #PopeFrancisFraudster has been poisonous to the Christian faith and seems to have wreaked havoc in both Chile & Argentina. Catholic Church has been in crisis since 1958 Masonic pope & Vatican II. Don't forget when people of the world wished to be wealthy as an Argentine, Pope Pius X back in 1904 WARNED the world to say no to Theodor Herzl's Zionist Plan to conquer Palestine. Today we face WW3 and global economic collapse. PS - Hitler the "catholic" ignored 2 previous popes and immediately in 1933 supported the Germany-Zionist relocation agreement.

[@njay4361]

I think a lot of countries are feeling the effects of decades of mismanagement and poor leadership. Which makes it easy for bad actors to get elected and make things worse. Once the people have been blinded and lied to enough, the stop being able to recognize competence and instead run after grifters and the lot. You can spot these people easily with their smugness and the ease with which they put down actual leaders and dismiss them as incompetent and corrupt. Makes it feel like we have entered some weird dystopian rabbit hole of stupidity of the worst kind..

[@JH-mr2pn]

​@@eaglerider1826 Time will tell how that surplus is used. I fear it won't be used altruistically.

[@ignitionfrn2223]

1:15 - Chapter 1 - Broken nation 4:50 - Chapter 2 - Flashpoints 8:45 - Chapter 3 - 1861, REDUX 13:55 - Chapter 4 - _Long live the missing title card_ 18:00 - Chapter 5 - Disaster zone

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

How stupid to need Time Stamps

[@FerdinandZebua]

Nice... but if I may I would nominate for Chapter 4 the title: "The Troubles of Northern Ireland"... or even just "The Troubles"

[@SaintBuick]

​@@DENVEROUTDOORMANYou sound like a peach.

[@Thioacetone1]

​@@DENVEROUTDOORMANWe got a cool guy over here 😐

[@ppp-ti1iz]

I find it funny how it’s mainly just the media + politicians who influence this type of thinking

[@genkiferal7178]

that isn't so true. our governments no longer look out for us. they are hired help and not doing the job we paid them for. they are not policing our borders. they shut down thousands of businesses and wrecked millions of people during covid lock downs, they keep making perpetual war now for decades, they allow children to have genitalia cut off in gender transition surgeries and allow people to get fired for calling a man pretending to be a women (or vice versa) the wrong pronoun at work. Our inflation rate keeps increasing because we are sending money all over for things that are not in our best interest...

[@extendedlimits]

We're all too lazy to start a civil war, but atleast it gives us something to talk about

[@billdunlap320]

That's likely the dumbest comment so far. Congratulations. Ask the Governor of Michigan if she believes someone is willing to act. They were going to kidnap her.

[@ohdearism]

Too fat!

[@andrewrankin7407]

I agree most people are but it doesn’t take many to spark something larger

[@rmf9567]

You might be right for yourself and some others but there are a lot of people that are ready and willing.. Democrats are a disgrace for the division they have caused

[@DavyCrockett31]

Speak for yourself, bum

[@Itstoolateohhwell]

The thin veneer of comfort is the only thing keeping the storm at bay. Once comfort is lifted we will see the worst of the worst

[@ronjones-6977]

No air conditioning= no peace

[@GaryWoodruff-c4k]

When the food runs out in the cities,it will move to the suburbs. And people will take what ever they want food,shelter,wo.en young girls,anything. SOME WILL BE KILLING JUST TO BE KILLING.WHILE THE POLITICIANS ARE COMFORTABLE IN A HOLE IN NEVADA.

[@genkiferal7178]

@@ronjones-6977 np pizza delivery, no Starbucks, no microchips from Taiwan

[@imperatordei6615]

Losing rights causes tons of discomfort

[@spunky718]

Bro 90% of our population couldn't survive 1 day of battle without going into soda withdrawal and wanting to go home and eat pizza

[@Moondog1109]

That's not accurate, that describes the several hundred people you are exposed to.

[@TheSilael]

If the Capitol Riot was anything to go by, some of them would go out to get targets but just get cardiac arrest instead.

[@valerieadams5656]

Fact...

[@Hard2Find]

I hate soda and I hate pizza, I get what you’re saying but it’s more that people aren’t ready for what’s to come. You can’t even dream of the chaos. I’m sure you the commenter aren’t prepared either.

[@unityxg]

Sad, but true. Most aren't prepared. I used to laugh at those prepper shows and people who "prepped" but as of late, I myself have become one and realize that 90% out there wouldn't be able to last a month without modern day conveniences.

[@alevensalor]

Well, it does appear our symptoms are checking more and more boxes.

[@CromCruachTheElderK]

Despite what anybody thinks in their anger beforehand: Trust me, you don't really want that war.

[@michaelpelzek8882]

I think a lot of people really do...

[@oscaryeager2304]

Please speak for yourself

[@TomyPesantes]

You're right no one would really want that, maybe one guy and his buddies but especially people who actually gone through war, they're not gonna wanna get into that.

[@oscaryeager2304]

@@TomyPesantes But see this is all it takes to light that fire which spreads. One group attacks this group that group thinks its that group and then it's all on fire.

[@oscaryeager2304]

@PatagoniaAries The average person can own hardly anything today. But, yet somehow we have the financial capability to support millions of illegals entering the country, foreign aid to israel, africa, and probably 100 other countries. But, for some reason I am supposed to br happy things aren't worse. Well, excuse me let's just get this over with already so they can get better for my children's sake.

[@charlesroeckeriv6226]

The best way for America to avoid any major internal conflict is voters need elect moral individuals who respect the Constitution and protect life, liberty, and property. There are still plenty of decent people willing to serve in government, if only they could be elected.

[@bscar]

Too bad that for that to happen we would probably have to get rid of everyone currently holding federal office- and all of their donators- to make sure lobbying influence is gone.

[@RandomOldPerson]

Problem is Christian Nationalist morality and their interpretation of the Constitution is opposite to the liberal morals and interpretations. Both sides already are already doing that most the time.

[@GregBrownsWorldORacing]

What the Parties are telling us is that their candidate is 'The Best America has to offer' How can we take either of them seriously? Their only objective is to win, Constitution be damned. The Democratic & Republican parties both act like they are part of the Constitution, but they are nothing of the sort. What they have collectively done is make it extremely difficult for a candidate to get much traction without joining one of their parties, unless you are running for Dog Catcher.

[@flagmichael]

The anarchist days of the 1970s would still have happened. The problem is that screwballs and anarchists find voices in the press.

[@lonpollard902]

While I agree with your words, we probably completely disagree when actually exploring it. I don't consider theocrats to be at all moral. And I don't consider supporting theocracy to be supporting the Constitution. I support freedom, individual rights, separation of church and state, civil liberties, reason, science, justice, truth, and decency. So of course I vote against the party that represents theocracy, fascism, white nationalism, anti-science, conspiracy theories, alternative facts, hate, cruelty, sadism, etc.

[@derweibhai]

The worst part is the fact this is 100% orchestrated. Even if it doesn’t happen, the fact we are even talking about it is all part of the plan.

[@PeruvianPotato]

To be fair, some guy in 1974 likely had the same thought upon something like Watergate broke out. That being said, many people really seem eager on killing each other for really no reason if you think about it.

[@SLDimarco]

Take your meds

[@Man0War_Loki]

He's right.

[@andreidarie4076]

It’s the zeitgeist. People are talking about it because it seems like an inevitability. Political polarization is increasing, demographics are rapidly changing, states’ interests are conflicting with federal interests, and financial disparity is at its highest point yet. How much longer will the American experiment last?

[@AlfonseGambino]

Exactly. The most intelligent response on this thread. Only very few get it.

[@jeannietrudell7237]

Social media is the battle ground

[@Pwnopolis]

Coulf have fooled me. I thought it was the freeway.

[@JUST_A_GUY835]

The top's only concern is that the bottom works together to to bring them down. The top only wants division. Left and right are blind.

[@guntcheck]

Both are blind, but not equally so, thinking otherwise is a false equivalence fallacy.

[@colincampbell4261]

No - the left understand distraction and divide and rule tactics.

[@blainesitter9110]

what way will the middle fall , Lol , meet me in the middle ?

[@5000Seabass]

@@guntcheck Both are equally blind, walking in separate directions. If you’re declaring yourself “right” or “left” you’re not as capable of rational thought as you think.

[@redcecrossans2189]

​@@guntcheckit the civil war is started now? I felt excited about it.

[@andreweller2318]

This was well thought out. I do think the low intensity conflict amongst militias is more likely than any large scale people vs. government or clear cut geographic or factional lines. However, I think one reason a civil war is unlikely in the U.S. is the distractibility of the people. When things start to get bad at home the government gets us more publicly involved in an overseas conflict. But support for foreign allies is becoming a devicive topic as well.

[@jvang2293]

People are delusional and think a civil war would be a quick and decisive battle and not a chaotic breakdown of society and fracturing into countless militias

[@Stable_Genius]

Yes, Americans are too phat and happy. There is just enough of us living comfortably to rock the boat. Many of these same pea-brains wanting them a civil war also work jobs to support their family. Do they request time off from Walmart to fight?

[@72tadrian65]

Daddy Trump already has said that it will be a bloodbath. 😢

[@jeffreymontgomery4091]

Very true and well said. Yes, we as a society have been "driven to distraction." Frightening it is how quickly we jump from one thing to another with little regard for the possible catastrophic consequences of such behavior. I, like the vast majority of people, need a "daily reminder." 🤦‍♂️

[@SusCalvin]

One part that spooked me during the Balkan wars was the number of militias. These militias would act alongside the national army or in support of it but also effectively run the areas they were in charge of. Towards the end of the wars, the started to fall out more with the central governments who wanted to either disband or fold them into the armed forces. But in practice it meant that the roadblock you need to pass to work is controlled by random auxiliary goons with absolutely no effective supervision. I think Amazon could afford a pretty hefty militia. Even if all it does is to ensure the security of Amazon warehouses, convoys, Jeff Bezos and occasionally beats up unionists.

[@jakeaurod]

I haven't seen the film, but I could see some of this happening. Some people are so dumb that they would blow up a bridge and then be mad that Chik-fil-A is out of food because they didn't get their delivery and blame the federal government for it.

[@marisolamaya159]

You are so right for this 😂

[@Mark-uh3un]

Yep, same people who blame the current president for every single issue their state has.

[@kevinbrown3316]

​@@Mark-uh3un, or maybe it's the people blaming the previous President for things that didn't come about until well after his 2nd term was stolen...

[@thepantscommandme]

@@Mark-uh3un Well a lot of the problems we are having is because of the current admin.

[@VSPoliFight]

​@@Mark-uh3unyou realize you guys did that as early as a few years ago right?

[@TheOnePistol]

This next election could be the tipping point. We'll have to wait and see. I got a feeling that it doesn't matter who wins at this point.

[@davidgentile5225]

Especially after the "Hot Mic" comment from the DNC about using Lawfare if they/WHEN they lose, and if that fails, they'll Start Civil war. Laughable that Soy Boys and Idiots unable to figure out which BATHROOM to use could "Win" at Civil war.

[@napalmstickylikeglue]

There's not going to be a civil war at least in the next 4 years. Anyone who is upset that Trump and Americans took back this country, only has the stones to run their mouth on social media. All we have to do is use a wrong pronoun and they will crumple.