What would fix The Isle?

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The Pondering

The Pondering

9 ай бұрын

A lot of people are complaining that The Isle is basically empty of content. I have some ideas.
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@DjDeadpig
@DjDeadpig 9 ай бұрын
Dinogon of Eggkad
@KnIf0rTITAN
@KnIf0rTITAN 9 ай бұрын
I agree with one part, having a Matriarch and Patriarch system where the oldest male and female on the map have the ability to grow to an even larger stage.... and have a system along the lines of acting as a family group (say being in proximity to others of the same species) gives a 3% HP boost per Dino, that may sound OP but it will encourage the players to act in groups and solo players to be more wary of groups.
@feyytime5571
@feyytime5571 8 ай бұрын
They do have similar techniques right now. Gallis pack bonus where they are faster when running with other Gallis and also the diet system where Gallis pack bonus speed is determined by the diet of the pack leader so they have shown that they could implement something like this
@ranfre
@ranfre 9 ай бұрын
The devs talked before about having a family system with nests and providing boosts to players who raise other players up through that. They also talked about having a stage past adult where dinos go before eventually dying. This would mean that older players with strong dinos eventually have to start again and if they have built up a family group it would give them a place to start again and get more bonuses. There's also been talk about a dna point system to unlock perks, skins and even whole dinos which would also highly encourage people playing together in both cooperative and competitive ways to gain points for their dino dna. I think the devs have had some great ideas but we just haven't been able to see progress due to their decision to rewrite the game as EVRIMA. But I at least can commend them on trying to be open with the community about their progress through the regular dev blogs. Saw some progress this year with the diet system recently coming out and an early play-test of human characters. I'm excited for the possible future of the game, but continued patience is going to be required.
@iBeHampe
@iBeHampe 9 ай бұрын
i loved watching you play this game! was stoked to see another video! the last one with the pachy was great! but now i see why these videos have been missing.
@LaifuHaiku
@LaifuHaiku 9 ай бұрын
Enough questing, a dino must hoont
@JohnDiabol
@JohnDiabol 9 ай бұрын
The Isle is essentially abandonware, all development has moved over to The Isle evrima. There is path of titans of course which I personally enjoy a lot. I don't really mind the questing system it has all that much, you can get some really cool unlockables if you do enough of them and they do give you an incentive to traverse the map! On path of titans there is barely a corner of the map where I haven't been yet. Of course you can also set up a private server in path of titans with a growth system closer to the Isle and without the quests.
@yellowjacket5995
@yellowjacket5995 9 ай бұрын
Maybe there could be random events like forest fires, tornadoes, volcanic eruptions, etc. that force players to move around.
@ZillaMech
@ZillaMech 9 ай бұрын
next Evrima update is said to have thunderstorms, very soon.
@alienstar2088
@alienstar2088 9 ай бұрын
I truly enjoy all of your ideas and would love to see them implemented within the game. I think the biggest thing missing from many games like The Isle is depth and realism. The two biggest issues I have with specifically The Isle is A) The map is just a map, it has no real effect other than locomotion for the players B) Dinosaur stats are pretty clearly cut in stone, you reach adulthood and your stats are an exact number with no flocculation based on what you did previously. To me, a map needs to be more than a setting where you walk around in - it should feel like a player in on itself. There should be seasons, floods, storms, cold fronts, heat fronts, etc. You should fear the very environment itself because if it catches you unprepared you should suffer the consequences. Every creature should be fluid when it comes to stats, yes there obviously has to be a minimum and maximum of each stat dependent on the creature but, to me if you spent most of your childhood on the brink of starvation, you shouldn't grow up to become a fully healthy and battle ready adult. I enjoy the idea of seeking out different items in the world that boosts your attack or defense or changes your color, etc. I think there should be a level of preparation for carnivores when its time for them to hunt and herbivores should obviously spend as much time as possible keeping their defenses up in case of an attack. I also really enjoy the idea of illnesses, it should be difficult to be at your 100% best all the time, especially for creatures like Dinosaurs where nearly every moment is spent trying not to die. Obviously you will get ill eventually and that will probably dictate how likely you are to getting hunted. Predators don't often have these 1v1 battles with healthy adults many Dinosaur media like to portray, they instead target the ill, young and old - not the animals within their prime unless they themselves are on the brink of starvation. Finally, I'd like to see some mutations involved and not all of them positive. Yes I know that if mutations are implemented you'll have those few people who will spend all their time trying to breed the best mutations in a single creature but, the idea of being born with a random deformity that can either aid or hinder you makes playing with that deformity a lot more fun.
@plih1up
@plih1up 9 ай бұрын
Growth bonus at birth for spawning from a fully grown player. This would make levelling and team building faster. Most of what makes the co-op difficult is trying to help the younger players survive without starving yourself
@Taranchule
@Taranchule 9 ай бұрын
This takes me back to the Necromancer days. Good stuff.
@sevenproxies4255
@sevenproxies4255 9 ай бұрын
How about acquiring species specific combat bonuses the more of a species you kill and eat? Stands to reason that while dinosaurs had small brains, they would pick up a few tricks in hunting specific prey. So if you play as a Utah Raptor and you kill an Allo, you get a permanent damage increase that only applies against Allo's.
@quietman3473
@quietman3473 9 ай бұрын
Still a good time to just stomp around as a filthy casual one or two nights a week.
@harlanpost9314
@harlanpost9314 9 ай бұрын
1. Add wind direction & an actual sense of smell so you could detect animals in the area instead of just recent tracks. 2. Reduce growth time so you don't spend 6.5 hours growing only to die in 2 minutes. 3. Scars & broken bones reduce animal effectiveness/movement for the rest of the animal's life to discourage needless risks & fighting. 4. Allow the animals to walk backwards so tiny little predators can't solo kill an apex. 5. Fix hit boxes on bites or hits.
@sevenproxies4255
@sevenproxies4255 9 ай бұрын
They could shake up the combat system a little too. Most combat for carnivores seems to consist of running, biting and running and biting some more. And the herbivores seems mostly like they run, ram, run and ram. Mix it up a little bit with some grappling, since that's what wild animals do a lot of the time during fighting: try ro grab the opponent or prey while avoiding getting grabbed by them.
@Lu-cr1hj
@Lu-cr1hj 9 ай бұрын
are u talking abt the same game?
@TrinsicOfSosaria
@TrinsicOfSosaria 9 ай бұрын
-I'm only two and a half minutes into this video so far, but a majority of suggestions you've made are present in the Evrima/beta build of the game.- Disregard, you're also waiting for the perk system and diet system to be fully fleshed out still. Just a few more years, surely 🙃
@M0oseTacular
@M0oseTacular 9 ай бұрын
Beasts of bermuda has some of these features you mentioned but it has its own problems. Still might be worth a look.
@richard343s
@richard343s 9 ай бұрын
"Guys literally only want one thing and its f**king disgusting"
@GerMaxSt
@GerMaxSt 8 ай бұрын
Teamwork and building packs. Selective breeding for superior characteristics.
@joshuaahlnas9271
@joshuaahlnas9271 9 ай бұрын
If I can add my 5 cents to potential ideas to add to the isle which in certain modes or game styles might work is the evolutionary trait and genetic information one aquires through hunting that potential gives one access to genetic traits qualitys or alternations to the form of the dinosaur one uses. Example could be the raptors agility/ air maneuverability, triceratops horns, chameleons camouflage ability etc. Room for what ever the devs have in mind. Diversity, dynamics mixed with open world and storys leaves a very interesting realm of possibility for this game.
@TheLastRussianYT
@TheLastRussianYT 9 ай бұрын
Why does KZbin refuse to send me notifications of your uploads? Utter crap KZbin, what are you doing. You have one job. One task.
@stanisawzokiewski3308
@stanisawzokiewski3308 9 ай бұрын
Easy way to encourage map migration would be same as in real life. In different times there is more or less food in certain parts of the map. Herbrivores could smell which way is more food. Basking could be interesting if more exposed, high places gave better stamina boost.
@prognemesiss
@prognemesiss 9 ай бұрын
i think the IV system of pokemon could be an interesting addition to the isle. you could have your dino specialize in sprinting, or ambushing, or biting etc. and be a little stronger (or weaker) then the average, simply by how you play the game. this would require that you can train your dino to enable this specialization. Perhaps you can train your biting abilities by biting into trees or something, this needs to be fleshed out first before it can even be implemented.
@TheMorbidHobo
@TheMorbidHobo 9 ай бұрын
While I love the idea that the reason to continue playing is that you need to survive, and there's no way to do so without confrontation and vulnerability, the grind to grow up to the point where you can really do anything is what kills it for me.
@windrider970
@windrider970 9 ай бұрын
You should try Deep Rock Galactic. It's a very good co-op game that's a blast to play with friends, and somehow the devs figured out how to foster positive player interactions even if you're playing with random people who can dynamically join or leave. The game is very simple and doesn't require a powerful rig to run, but it has surprising depth.
@Sryd770
@Sryd770 9 ай бұрын
These are actually great ideas. Its unfortunate that the dev team that are working on the game is so small.
@menecec
@menecec 9 ай бұрын
Dang an entire vid and yet not 1 idea that hasn’t been implemented and failed
@fredbloggs5902
@fredbloggs5902 9 ай бұрын
Reptiles only have 3 drives.
@user-ve3jk4uc3o
@user-ve3jk4uc3o 9 ай бұрын
what if you had a territory system where you would have to eliminate all threats in that area and then a part of your map would become yours and you'd get some bonuses such as food being more effective depending on the size of the territory, increased awareness of other players and having stuff like the location of water marked out on the hud
@Chareidos
@Chareidos 9 ай бұрын
Foodefficiency? I don't know about that, but some smaller defense buff or something that could explained psychologically... maybe a bonus to the range of smell for knowing your territory. Something in this small extend would be fine. But calories should not change in my opinion. :) If the devs implement the planned stamina rework, those with an established rule over a fruitful territory will have the upper hand towards wandering nomads.
@Chareidos
@Chareidos 9 ай бұрын
Discovering Areas, or a kind of minigame where the specimen you play get experience with roaming the isle is a good idea. Could be combined with "establishing" your territory or something. Sharpening or increasing your claws and teeth should not be limited to one specific location in my opinion but maybe limited. I would avoid making it a mechanic like a quest-system, that feels so superficial and random as it does in PoT. The Nesting System with the Matriarch or Patriarch Bonus is very agreeable and pretty much the thing I had imagined myself in varying ways as it was already stated by the devs in some capacity! I personally would argue that Dinos should not be immortal and in order to fight their limited lifespan they would actually HAVE to nest in other players, with being rewarded not only to live longer but getting buffed.
@switzerland_swiss
@switzerland_swiss 9 ай бұрын
This is why I play EVRIMA and not legacy
@koanbonwa
@koanbonwa 9 ай бұрын
Methinks the game needs time traveling big game hunters, that you can eat. And maybe steal their Tardis and go to London and eat everyone there.
@ryanyvegaify
@ryanyvegaify 9 ай бұрын
The search for a breeding female if that isn't a thing
@milesgerschefske6231
@milesgerschefske6231 9 ай бұрын
Definitely had fun the first two weeks the meso server was up, but Definitely felt like id explorer and seen enough. I think it needs more ai herbies free roaming, going farther into the growth cycles or having packs that spawn that can take on lesser carnivores easily; forcing players to make better use of their dinos abilities and play styles would be nice. Maybe even ai spawned apex carnivores that require avoiding or a team effort would be cool, as an American i did a lot of playing when there was at most 6 players at a time
@temahoney
@temahoney 9 ай бұрын
Oh no…….I’m here again. What is wrong with me 😂?………..
@WalrusWinking
@WalrusWinking 9 ай бұрын
In the dev timeline they laid out they have elder stages, different hypos and other weird genetically modified dinosaurs. Humans, mutant human/cannibal things it all sounds cool but I've played this game for YEARS and evrima is only just getting some of this stuff. There's also ANOTHER new map they've been working on because the Evrima map is too big. I think the isle needs a few simple things one thing is shallow puddles to drink from because even the biggest baddest dinosaur is getting jacked by Deinosuchus at the moment it's fun the first 2-3 times then it gets old and then you get REALLY tired of it happening. They also need more AI as the map is so huge and your options as a predator are basically zero, can't tell you how many times I've starved. I take long breaks from this game but there's always something that brings me back.
@harbl99
@harbl99 9 ай бұрын
This is a definitely 'inside Mesozoic era' post which I'm too Cenozoic to understand.
@davidschulz5315
@davidschulz5315 9 ай бұрын
I agree with a load of these, I really just want stuff to do beyond just fighting others and hopefully something co-operative. I enjoyed my time on meso, but been in Australia I was very hampered for fighting due to ping and had little else to do than just hanging out for a random to attack me.
@jacklang3314
@jacklang3314 9 ай бұрын
The Asura servers run fairly well for us Aussies despite being in Germany.
@StrangeAether
@StrangeAether 9 ай бұрын
There really aught to be a pliocene era mode.
@Killingdillz
@Killingdillz 9 ай бұрын
The isle is the best dino game out there .
@petermgruhn
@petermgruhn 9 ай бұрын
I watched a few and you know what... it's not a fight simulator. It's a run around and every now and then there's blood and somebody falls over simulator.
@jendoe9436
@jendoe9436 9 ай бұрын
For unlocking larger dinos as more offspring are produced, sounds like Carl just wants to be noticed for his time being a mother 😉
@Thonik76
@Thonik76 9 ай бұрын
a populated server or servers cuz i cant find any oh yes and introduce the humans
@the98themperoroftheholybri33
@the98themperoroftheholybri33 9 ай бұрын
1. Flying animals 2. Aquatic animals 3. Underground animals 4. Environmental changes could give a purpose to migrate around the island 5. Didn't they mention implementing humans into the game? It might be nice to be very weak as a human but able to craft and use your environment to make traps or primitive weapons
@greatnorth3105
@greatnorth3105 9 ай бұрын
Flying animals are in the game, aquatic animals are in the game, underground animals and migrating are planned to come. Humans will be added in 2 forms, mercenaries that will scavenge the island for guns and gear and primitive humans that will craft and build.
@Roboticus_Prime_RC
@Roboticus_Prime_RC 9 ай бұрын
​@greatnorth3105 these people don't seem to know about Evrima.
@the98themperoroftheholybri33
@the98themperoroftheholybri33 9 ай бұрын
@@Roboticus_Prime_RC you guys don't even know about time travel though
@godofsquirrels494
@godofsquirrels494 9 ай бұрын
Id like AI children making it so you’d have to protect your eggs and find a mate. If you’re successful you have an npc. Non player child.
@maltardraco9555
@maltardraco9555 9 ай бұрын
If it's a dinosaur fighting sim then why not simply simplify the process. Turn it into an actual fighting game or beat 'em up but with DINOSAURS! Every developer's first mistake is being too ambitious. To fix a game, one must not add content, but remove it instead. Art is perfected when nothing can be removed from it. You can't take away Mona Lisa's smile without ruining the piece so it HAS to be there.
@Troublechutor
@Troublechutor 9 ай бұрын
Every time I think about getting this game it looks effectively abandoned. Shrug.
@farine98
@farine98 9 ай бұрын
Do you only play legacy?
@sadwingsraging3044
@sadwingsraging3044 9 ай бұрын
Unlock Godzilla!
@Roeland666
@Roeland666 9 ай бұрын
Here I was expecting a chat on how to fix UK
@Casual_Cthulhu
@Casual_Cthulhu 9 ай бұрын
Needs more Dino’s
@veiddimaddur8354
@veiddimaddur8354 9 ай бұрын
Definitely more dinosaurs
@sadwingsraging3044
@sadwingsraging3044 9 ай бұрын
RELEASE THE RAPTORS!😫
@pureeviltv2883
@pureeviltv2883 9 ай бұрын
Can you like play ark again bruv
@feyytime5571
@feyytime5571 8 ай бұрын
They really need to bring back global chat. Its a multiplayer game and they want to encourage living in packs etc. Why tf did they make it basically impossible to play with people and find packs? For the sake of realism in the expense of fun?
@bigmitchy4026
@bigmitchy4026 9 ай бұрын
we need more analysis, discussion and takes like this, and less "here's why gays shouldn't marry" arguments with Adam & Sitch. Debate them on the merits of random video game shit rather than why aristocracy is actually the same as meritocracy if you ignore how they're different and only look at how they have overlap
@bobbybfat
@bobbybfat 9 ай бұрын
Throw in some more impressive fighting animations
@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874
@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874 9 ай бұрын
Some suggestions: -More paleontological accuracy. Feathered raptors, 2020 Spinos, giant Hadrosaurs, Deinocheirus and Therezinosaurus. -Pterosaurs. Pteranodon, Tropeognathus/Ornithocheirus, Quetzalcoatlus, and Hatzegopteryx to make death from above a possibility. -Migration mechanics. Herbivores have to keep migrating in search of food. -Do something to make Sauropods more fun without making them too OP. -Dating/Mating system. Your dinosaur only gets to procreate if it can impress a member of the opposite sex. -NPC non-Dinosaur extinct animals such as Simosuchus, Didelphodon, Cimolodon, Onchopristis, and Hesperornis.
@readwatchlisten2863
@readwatchlisten2863 9 ай бұрын
The first thing they need to do is fix the map in EVRIMA. That map isn't worth exploring because it is so boring. And near impossible to see in. Second, they need AI Dinos. They don't even have to be hostile AI, but at least something to fill out the world. Adding prey mammals and small playable dinos was so stupid. At this rate, it will take them another 5 years to match the Legacy Roster. So disappointed in where the game went after 2020.
@WalrusWinking
@WalrusWinking 9 ай бұрын
They ALREADY have a new map in Evrima you can see pictures and videos of it from the devs. Evrima also has AI too however the spawn rates for the AI are low. Pigs, frogs I think there's some other AI too.
@readwatchlisten2863
@readwatchlisten2863 9 ай бұрын
@@WalrusWinking you make my point. Typical of The Isle devs to make a new map when the old one is still busted. Not to mention I said AI Dinos. I know about the stupid pigs and frogs. Adding those instead of at least bringing back the Old AI or adding new AI dinos was so insane of them. The Everima world is empty and boring.
@WalrusWinking
@WalrusWinking 9 ай бұрын
They're making a new map to REPLACE the current one. To be more friendly to the humans and other creatures coming to the isle. Also the AI Dinos WERE in evrima but were removed because they kept bugging out. @@readwatchlisten2863
@trik6979
@trik6979 9 ай бұрын
A new Lead Dev would absolutely improve the way the game is going.
@v8hyp
@v8hyp 9 ай бұрын
ultimate glazing 😭🙏🏾
@petermgruhn
@petermgruhn 9 ай бұрын
"There isn't any point to fighting." Really? Interminable vengeance jags don't count? "There isn't anything else to do." They're dumb zards. There isn't anything else to do. Should they add a "Basking Simulator" unit? That dinosaur is wasting a lot of time deforming its skeleton just walking.
@colecampbell1906
@colecampbell1906 9 ай бұрын
You should play evrima. Some of your complaints were already dealt with.
@cope847
@cope847 9 ай бұрын
I've never played the game but it looks really barren. What about a migratory mating system to encourage exploration and build up a pack with baby AI dinos to raise and protect. It would also fill out the world a bit more.
@Roboticus_Prime_RC
@Roboticus_Prime_RC 9 ай бұрын
This video is showcasing the legacy version. The Evrima beta has tons of systems that make the game far better. They have diets that force you to move around the map, flying creatures, swimming creatures, and each dino has unique abilities.
@Loriethalion
@Loriethalion 9 ай бұрын
I'm not usually cynical about stuff, but there is a special place in my heart for the types of people that are behind "The Isle". This entire video is predicated on that The Isle as a game isn't just a huge economical grift. I could go into pretty deep details about my thoughts and feelings on the subject of this game but the bottom line is that they're arresting the games development on purpose. I personally won't be revisiting the game unless It's to hang out with friends. I hope that by bringing more attention to the game you can actually inspire change and reform and not just trap more people into enriching some pretty scummy people.
@Roboticus_Prime_RC
@Roboticus_Prime_RC 9 ай бұрын
Not playing legacy might help. Evrima is 100x better.
@EvilUncleDace
@EvilUncleDace 9 ай бұрын
Play a better game.
@tex7995
@tex7995 9 ай бұрын
Get rid of dondi.
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