What you DON’T KNOW about your GUITAR SPEAKERS!

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Kohle Audio Kult

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@KohleAudioKult Ай бұрын

Feel free to ask more Guitar Speaker questions here! 🤘 Ignazio and me are listening!

@JensenSpeakersVideos Ай бұрын

Yesss! We're listening! Come hit with your questions! 😎

@kutnersuicide Ай бұрын

I want scientific data proving or disproving or even quantifying the effect of breaking in speakers.

@MadNoisy Ай бұрын

Hey guys, awesome video. I do would like to ask something about the impedance setting on an amp. I got a Line 6 HD 147 that has a 4, 8 and 16 ohm output setting (switch) and I always play on a 4x12 cab with 2 cables running from the amp into the cab so it's stereo. But with this stereo setting do I use the 8 ohm or 16 ohm? I hear people would even use guitar cables to connect their amp with a speaker cab, omg. I got decent speaker cables just specific for that. Anyways thanks 🤘🤘

@JensenSpeakersVideos Ай бұрын

@@MadNoisy all depends on the impedance of your cab. Usually the 4x12 that allow the stereo settings can be switched to 4ohms or 16 ohms in MONO and 2x8Ohm in STEREO. If that is the case, you should use the 8Ohm settings on the amp. Check the connectors plate on your speaker, it should say what the impedance load is for each setting. Hope this helps!

@geronimostade8279 Ай бұрын

Crazy! Thanks for the video. And what a nice personality he is... He actually underlined alot of my hypothesis about speaker tone. I wish i could get my hands on one of these speakers to really check them against different cabinets. At least the description sounds promising :)

@TheOtherJohnBrowne Ай бұрын

I've been waiting for this! Ignazio is a gem!

@KohleAudioKult Ай бұрын

I knew you were the first one to watch this!

@JensenSpeakersVideos Ай бұрын

haha, John, way too kind!

@TheStrykerProject Ай бұрын

Being one of the biggest impacts to tone, I'd love to hear and watch more vids about speakers; especially shoot-outs.

@KohleAudioKult Ай бұрын

Noted! I’ve got some cool stuff coming soon

@ZillaCabs Ай бұрын

Great video, Ignazio is a top guy.

@KohleAudioKult Ай бұрын

Absolutely! And you guys make great cabs from what I hear ;)

@douggroulx1525 Ай бұрын

Just got schooled. learned a lot, great interview! Thank you!

@RobertoOrtenzi Ай бұрын

Ignazio's speakers knowledge plus Kristian's storytelling, a match made in hell 🖤

@JensenSpeakersVideos Ай бұрын

The fact is that Kristan triggers his guest with the right questions and so the answers come out interesting and in a light, informal manner. Good answers come are the result of good questions!

@tonyp7651 Ай бұрын

Love this level of interview! I want more.

@willzoo34 Ай бұрын

Some fucking quality content lately Kohle!

@5150forevermore Ай бұрын

Absolutely mesmerizing. This man speaks like a true engineer.

@KohleAudioKult Ай бұрын

Totally! Only pros and no bullshit on this channal!

@metalinsights9664 Ай бұрын

Here's a question I suggest for your next interview on guitar speakers. Given that the propagation pattern of a frequency depends on the frequency level, whereby low frequencies propagate in an omni pattern from the speaker, and high frequencies are mainly directed in a beam, does that suggest that the ideal mic placement, one that captures all frequencies, both high, middle and low, emanating from the speaker, is either at or near the center of the speaker? Put differently, is there any logical or scientific basis that supports one mic placement as better at capturing the tone than others?

@JensenSpeakersVideos Ай бұрын

In short... no, there is not a scientific basis to determine the "best" mic placement. The only rule is "where it sounds good to you". Since the mic is capturing a complex system, made by many chanied non-linear elements (musician, string, guitar, pickup, effects, amp, speaker in a cab), there is no point in pursuing the "most linear sound or mic placement". Moreover the mic response may be drastically different depending on distance, proximity effect, angle, capsule size, polar pattern... it's a highly subjective matter. You move it around until you find the spot that delivers the sound you like and need. Easy? Not at all, but that is what it is! However, there are a LOT of scientific data to keep in mind when you use more than one single mic to pick up a cab, as you need to make sure your mics will be in relative phase with each other. But that's a whole different story!

@patrickfouhy9102 Ай бұрын

I've never been able to confirm this, but once upon a time when I worked in a guitar shop (2006-2023) I had heard that a majority of speaker manufacturers got their cones made by, or got the the paper for their cones from the same company and when this particular company went out of business that's when you started to see some real big changes in the sound of speakers. I think the change was rumored to happen sometime in the early or mid 90s. I'd be curious if anyone else has heard this before, or if it can be confirmed/denied somewhere. But it would explain a lot IMO if it were true. haha.

@johnnylayton1672 Ай бұрын

Great intro to speaker design & operation from you guys THANKS! I immediately wonder about the impact & future evolution of full range frequency response speakers coupled with impulse response signal conditioning to increase similarity between recorded vs live audio from this discussion -- as IRs can tune the speaker response curve on command sans need for physical changes such as speaker magnet type & mass, cone material or recording microphone placement. I mean, is that something musicians will increasingly want or will they instead gravitate back towards the sort of personalized experiences still currently available thanks to great companies like Jensen -- i.e., akin to the human voice itself where we naturally perceive the sound of our own voices differently than what we hear from voice recordings hence begging the question that our perception of any & all sound is far more personally than collectively understood?

@JensenSpeakersVideos Ай бұрын

Very interesting comment! As a matter of fact, the FRFR speakers (full range, flat response) are in essence linear devices - for how much linear a speaker system can be - meant to translate with the best possible approximation the sound of a digital system, filtered by an IR that simulates the "speaker+cab+microphone(s)" system. Thus, it should behave and playback that signal more or less lika a Studio Monitor or a PA system would, with the minimum possible coloration. Then, as we all well know, no two studio monitors or PA systems sound alike, so there are some cold hard facts to consider (linearity, dynamics, THD), but ultimately the choice of your favorite FRFR is highly subjective, just as it is when you're trying to pick your new pair of monitors for your home studio. We manufacture a multitude of speakers for Studio Monitors, as well as we make many different speakers as an OEM supplier for companies who build FRFR systems, and quite invariably those are the requirements. All these speakers either coaxia or separate two-way systems, have a "pro audio" woofer, with a thick rigid membrane and treated cloth suspensions, to grant the most linear "piston-like" excursion, and are paired with a waveguide horn loaded compression driver if the system is designed for high SPL, or with a soft dome tweeter, closer to the "HiFi" concept, if the system is designed for lower volume and maybe higher sound quality. So to say, we try to provide FRFR speaker components that have the least possible coloration, and allow the manufacturer to put them in a system that is as linear as possible, and fine tune the overall system response to their liking. Hope this answers your question!

@nicholasmullins3693 Ай бұрын

I'm so super excited to hear this speaker!

@frankbrown3717 Ай бұрын

Awesome. The your conversation with experts are a joy to listen to.

@charogenaro7024 6 күн бұрын

Nice interview! Hearing Ignazio is a true pleasure

@gastonjabaly Ай бұрын

Hell yeah i love this topic and since i have like 6 different Jensen speakers i was totally waiting for a kohle audio demo of this new one i guess im going to have to wait lol

@JensenSpeakersVideos Ай бұрын

Yes, you'll have to wait... but not for too long I trust :) And thank you for being part of the Jensen family of players!

@gastonjabaly Ай бұрын

@JensenSpeakersVideos i can totally make the video if you want i have plenty of gear

@Shadowsreach1 Ай бұрын

fantastic video. I would love to hear a video with that speaker! Thanks for the video!

@KohleAudioKult Ай бұрын

Noted!

@Peterbrendanalbert Ай бұрын

Pointless, as the sound will be reproduced by your home speaker. You'll be listening to your speaker.. I don't mean to be a bummer but it would be a completely futile exercise.

@snowandcoal Ай бұрын

Good luck with making vst that models all these variables

@JensenSpeakersVideos Ай бұрын

haha, true... but possible... for the speakers we trust the new Fluid IR convolution technique developed by Overloud and the DynIR capturing by Two-Notes. Both DO reveal the nuances of a speaker in an impressive way!

@michaelfessenden8601 Ай бұрын

I Was grinning ear to ear😊 when i saw this video. Thanks again for another video.

@KohleAudioKult Ай бұрын

Great to see Ignazio again, right?

@michaelfessenden8601 Ай бұрын

Yes, the only one I know on u-tube talking deeply about guitar speakers. .plenty about car maybe home. Speakers . Dust cap answer gave traction on that question.

@Starch1b2c3d4a Ай бұрын

Classy interview. Transparent, honest

@RobBjorgan Ай бұрын

Very interesting information here

@AndriiHryhoriev Ай бұрын

Great to hear a lot of information about reasons of inconsistency between same speaker models and overall factors impacts on final sound

@riffmondo9733 Ай бұрын

Great episode. I have learned so much about speakers here.

@cmd_f5 Ай бұрын

Excellent chat guys. I'm getting more into speakers and it's a fun journey 🍻

@riangarianga Ай бұрын

As a speaker nerd I learnt a lot from both these talks with Ignazio! And I'm glad Jensen embraces the neodymium path. The match between some of the current Celestion neodymiums and their alnico counterparts is quite obvious, I'm looking forward to learning more about Jensens. Unfortunately rare-earth metals are expected to become more expensive, I hope it doesn't end up like alnico 😞.

@JensenSpeakersVideos Ай бұрын

As a matter of fact, Neo has been relatively stable in the past few years, after a steep increases period. You know, still Neo is small in the guitar industryl, but in our sales of Bass speakers we use more Neo than Ceramic magnets, and by far. In the Pro Audio and HiFi speakers Neo is also very important, so we just hope it will stabilize in the current price bracket and won't go crazy!

@riangarianga Ай бұрын

@@JensenSpeakersVideos I'm glad to learn about that, thank you so much for your reply!

@jason.martin Ай бұрын

This was such a great and informative video, I am looking fwd to hearing the demo of this new speaker. Having IR's of speakers with different mics def helps in making purchasing choices for the real thing. Just like plug ins for HW.

@KohleAudioKult Ай бұрын

Sounding nice so far! I hope I can come up with a video soon

@hmtp177 Ай бұрын

HANDS DOWN BEAT VIDEO OF 2024!!! Please make a 3 plus hour long interview!!

@JensenSpeakersVideos Ай бұрын

Haha, don't get me started. Nobody knows when I'll be done talking!

@KohleAudioKult Ай бұрын

🙀😂

@fearlesstrooper8536 Ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for this super nerdy and interesting interview Kristian. I love the knowledge from Ignazio...he knows what he is taking about 👍

@JensenSpeakersVideos Ай бұрын

Thank you!!!

@jaibandroide Ай бұрын

i want a jensen speaker just because of ignazio

@derKleine92 Ай бұрын

Me too

@KohleAudioKult Ай бұрын

Haha!

@JensenSpeakersVideos Ай бұрын

I so need to be in video more often then! Hahaha, thank you!

@CorNigrum Ай бұрын

Using digital emulations as a sampler to see what you would buy if/when you want the real thing... interesting concept. I think a lot of people, young and old, still crave the real thing, the physical experience, and I think analogue will live on for quite some time to come. Digital doesn't have to be all gloom and doom for companies, as long as they innovate in both directions and stay relevant.

@ruipacheco8983 Ай бұрын

Another Great video. Many thanks!

@resington Ай бұрын

Hearing the nighthawk on your videos sold me one, it's in my 1x12 and it rules.

@KohleAudioKult Ай бұрын

Great to hear that!

@SHARt_murmur Ай бұрын

Love these vids, such a vast amount of knowledge, thanks!

@Epiwater11 17 күн бұрын

I can't believe i can sit thru to listen to this. I guess it is very insightful although i am not so into impedance type of thing...

@gottark Ай бұрын

Hello Kohle. Please, I would like to suggest that you make a video comparing the new Tornado Special with other Jensen speakers (Raptor and Electric Lightning), Celestions and Eminence. Thank you very much! 🍻

@djabthrash Ай бұрын

Great chat

@romanbrandle319 Ай бұрын

I would like to hear a comparison of the original tornado and the special edition.

@KohleAudioKult Ай бұрын

I have never used the Tornado 100. I just know the 65. Pretty sure they’re gonna sound very different. In case I’ll do a video I’ll probably just compare it to a V30 so people have a clear reference.

@romanbrandle319 Ай бұрын

@@KohleAudioKult Fair enough after all V30 is the gold standard of guitar speakers,

@vorpalblades Ай бұрын

Whoa, what an info dump. Great vid.

@louisburley1597 Ай бұрын

It’s not letting me tag Glenn Fricker (Spectre Sounds Studios) on mobile but someone should send smoke signals to him. He would love this. I really enjoyed this myself

@JensenSpeakersVideos Ай бұрын

Hey, we know well Glenn... somethig will happen for sure!

@nitraus666 Ай бұрын

Happy owner of a Tornado Stealth in my Fender Super 60

@CinGarrifex Ай бұрын

Are any magnets made/compiled out of smaller magnets? This is a great video thank you both so much!

@christofdonat2702 Ай бұрын

Great information, even for people, who not only work with high gain tone. Now I understand better, what it is, that I like so much about my Alnico Blues in my AC30. Speaking of these, that combo is a hell of a heavy beast. For more mobile situations, like e.g. rehearsal, I'm thinking of using a small amp into 1x12 cab with some kind of Neodymium speaker, that sounds relatively close to the Alnico Blues. Does anyone have any suggestions, which ones I might want to give a try?

@RyRyTheBassGuy Ай бұрын

I love this guy! The IR's they did for Overloud weren't for me, but it's cool that they did them since you don't see them used much (if it all) by the "big name" IR creators.

@acidbath3226 Ай бұрын

my favorite speakers!

@dariuszbrzuchnalski4417 Ай бұрын

Thanks Kristian i buy Nighthawk and Electric Light as You suggest on you're channel before and i stick them i n one 2x12 vertical cab , Man they just kick ass , sound so low and crunchy and so crisp and tide . Thanks man im over the moon with sound looking forward to buy and try this Tornados !!!! 🙌🙌❤❤

@KohleAudioKult Ай бұрын

Great to hear that! 🤘❤️

@charlesb7831 Ай бұрын

I would love to ask a question to anyone actually knowing the real story about the Celeston Wolverine speaker. From what little I read about, it was a joint effort between Jensen and Celeston, or so I've read. Reason I was interested, is it's what came in a 1989 Marshall JCM800 4010 combo I bought years ago. I still have it, but swapped a Eminence DV-77 speaker in the amp. The Wolverine is definitely a unique sound forsure!

@JensenSpeakersVideos Ай бұрын

Definitively NO joint effort between Jensen and Celestion. the WH-80 is a Celestion speaker, a custom run made for Marshall, in the late '80s. Unfortunately I have NO other information about that speaker.

@charlesb7831 Ай бұрын

@JensenSpeakersVideos really appreciate that, thank you!

@diablovarulf6568 Ай бұрын

Looking forward to a Kristian Kohle IR pack of this speaker!

@jean-pascalhuchet2020 Ай бұрын

I want hear this speaker. I love the Nighthawk

@KohleAudioKult Ай бұрын

Noted! I'll check it out asap.

@YourCaliBos Ай бұрын

These sound great , sounds like a hybrid between an alnico and a ceramic. Cheers BC⭕️

@Sylkis89 Ай бұрын

Hi Kristian! Since you're mentioning making more videos on speakers.... I'm gonna copy one comment I made in the past that you did see, but just to remind you if the idea I was trying to pitch! It's meant specifically to test speakers that are good to use with both bass and guitar, usually that means 12" bass speakers with a response curve with enough midrange and top end, or hifi speakers with a response curve that sounds good with instruments. Most of them are often referred to as replacements for EVM12L, more lightweight Neodymium alternatives with a similar sound to EVM12L. Also I wonder what would happen if someone tried using Celeston's FRLR speakers that way... but anyway: "Can you review using some specific bass speakers in guitar cabs? People online recommend Celestion BN12-300S, Eminence Basslite S2012, Eminence Deltalite II 2512, Beyma 12G40, 12" vintage CTS, and 12" Peavey Black Widow, and there's surely more I am not aware of. These often have response graphs similar to guitar speakers, but can handle the excursion and wattage needed for bass - though a graph is not enough to know what to expect irl. I’ve seen them used in setups with a modeller + poweramp + DIY cab, or for high-gain guitar and bass in home studios, or for Doom/Shoegaze. Quilter, Zilla, and Barefaced use them in guitar cabs. I think it's a cool idea to explore as an alternative to the boring V30 and/or Greenback standard. I wonder how well - from your perspective - they perform with high-gain guitar tones (possibly with a 10-band EQ in the effects loop), as well as bass tones where you mix a miced cab track with a bass cab IR track. Could you test each speaker individually and in blends, and compare closed vs. open cabs, and 2x12 vs. 4x12 configurations? Dr. Decibel from Celestion support confirmed it’s safe to use the BN12-300S this way, and I've seen people successfully use the Eminence models, not to mention vintage CTS being common in old Fender combo amps."

@KohleAudioKult Ай бұрын

Hey there! The "problem" with bass speakers is that they usually sound a lot more linear (less roll-off in the highs) then a typical guitar speaker which makes them sound rather harsh for distorted guitars. On the other hand dirty bass guitar tones usually sound great through guitars speakers. As long as you get a deep clean low end from a DI track you should be fine. Here's me checking out a few 10" bass speakers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnTVl5t8brangJIsi=NczSLcHG4iULZoW4 And here's me reamping a bass guitar through some guitar speakers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZqZcpyOq6qFo6ssi=w3-J0zkwEUwc3jS9

@Sylkis89 Ай бұрын

@@KohleAudioKultin case of the speakers I'm talking about the problem tends to actually be the opposite, they're too dark/mellow, lacking in the top end (they usually and around 4-4.5KHz so all the "brilliance" and presence suffers)... But still a lot of people swear by them! And yeah using guitar speakers for bass at louder volumes will destroy them with over excursion :(

@JensenSpeakersVideos Ай бұрын

The key problem here is that a speaker designed for guitar simply does not have the excursion capacity to withstand the impact of a clean or clean-ish bass tone. The paper suspension can't handle that level of energy in the deep bass range. It will blow very fast. The EVM12L is not a Guitar Speaker by design: it's a ProAudio woofer, that happens to sound great with electric guitar. As a Pro Audio woofer, it has a thick, heavy membrane, an extra large voice coil (2,5"), enormous magnet and treated cloth suspensions that can handle very wide excursion. That's why it can playback extremely demanding signals, such as a clean bass or synth bass, kickdrums etc. A guitar speaker can though handle heavily distorted tones, and in this regard I totally agree with Kristian: split your signal, send a clean DI to the mixer and blend in as much distortion as you like through an amp/cabinet mic'ed up. That's a good way to go.