What You Need To Know About The Vetterli

[@HuntShowdownLab]

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[@gauss2247]

i dont even know what they changed but it feels a lot better to use now

[@Morningstar.Unofficial]

Another fun fact, HV ammo give the suppressor a muzzle flash again and it can be heard from farther away which is VERY counter productive.

[@nickmclean4004]

But it brings velocity up to a more normal 350, same as base with fmj

[@gabbagandalf8337]

He already mentioned that in the video. But still good point. Most people don't know or forget it

[@worksmarter6418]

Thank you

[@eli83627]

⁠@@nickmclean4004it‘s not worth it imo honestly, the travel time is gonna be so weird anyway that i‘d either go with fmj or the base ammo, even tho fmj is gonna be even worse wirh travel time, but it‘s much better for compund fights and you might even get a good shot farer away if somebody is standing still while they‘re fighting a different team

[@nickmclean4004]

@@eli83627 anything under 250-270 that's not a (cross)bow just doesn't click for me lol 350 is snappier than 240 in close-to-mid range, but not having high pen hurts

[@stevethegiraffe4019]

I completely disagree with your cyclone ammo reccomendation. I think fmj/normal is best for either the added pen to spray at walls or the better ammo economy. I think HVs are redundant as you wont be sniping with the cyclone anyways and the added recoil will only make 2 taps harder. Love your content, excited for the new ammo video

[@HuntShowdownLab]

Yknow... I flipped flopped which to pick for the cyclone when planning this. if you look at my cyclone clips, most of them are FMJ, so I think deep down, I agree with you.

[@jamesb3497]

I was going to make a similar comment. For my money, base ammo maximizes the cyclone's spray and pray ability. In addition, the latest update came with some buffs for it, which make it a little more forgiving.

[@rumsbums3113]

Just take Dolch P

[@jcbvickers]

Wow the animation for your mascot is getting really good. It looked like you were actually in the video narrating!

[@HuntShowdownLab]

I upped my game for this one.

[@xDragonce]

3:45 I believe you meant to say "Iron eye". The trait which let's you bolt while ads.

[@HuntShowdownLab]

Thta's the one!

[@RedshirtAfficionado]

Personally I think the deadeye variant is the best. The vetterli is accurate enough in hipfire for super close range, and anything past 15m the deadeye *excels* at. If you’re really worried about close encounters, bring a melee or reliable fast firing secondary. Additionally, the low zoom allows you to function well in weather conditions that other scopes would be a disadvantage in, such as ash or heavy rain. It’s just so flexible and versatile, with not many disadvantages

[@shoelessbandit1581]

My thoughts exactly with deadeye scopes.

[@DigitalWolverine]

Can’t handle dirty scopes in fog maps. Just don’t take scopes anymore, personally.

[@Air420]

dead-eye or silenced for sure. no reason to run base unless trying to unlock the others. cyclone feels underwhelming to me personally

[@tyrionas]

I personally hate all the scopes in the game so I run all my rifles with iron sights. that's down to preference but I feel like they restrict your field.of view too much and make flick shots much harder.

[@tyrionas]

​@@Air420base vetterli is cheaper and is the best compromise for me. I agree on the cyclone though, too expensive and you lose the great handling that makes the vetterli great imo

[@gregorh.3919]

Always remember: The bigger the ammo type, the more fun Incendiary is. So Mosin Fire is the most fun because you're burning up 50m? thats nuts. Believe me, especially if you're like me and always hit shoulder instead of heads, try incendiary.. people stop thinking once they start burning.

[@MamaGrell1992]

While I personally grew to love the centennial more. The Vetterli is definitely an amazing family of guns, and there is basically one to fit every play style. Personally I love using the Silencer variant, mostly because of the better sights. The goal post sights take me time to get used to if I haven't ran the gun in awhile.

[@TheEnolarz]

Hey, it seems that new stickman model of yours doesnt have a hat. Needs a fix :D

[@GiddyFoxGaming]

I second this :)

[@tubaca3701]

If money is no object then the cyclone is the best, but for a more budget option I prefer the default vetterli

[@Mechonyo]

It would be funnier, if you would wear the two things, what your avatar is wearing! A neat leather cowboy hat and a red Bandana. Looking forward to your content and dedication for this game!

[@HuntShowdownLab]

I've actually asked around some to find one (My family did farm/horse stuff growing up), unfortunately couldn't find one. As of yet, I can't justifying buying one just for the channel, but it's definately on my mind.

[@activeentropy]

Base Vetterli with HV is one of my go to guns when I don't know what I want to play.

[@panzerfaust127]

Honestly dumdum for vetterli would make me play the gun much much more. Awesome video btw bro❤

[@ThePoisonchicken]

The fact that the title of the video isnt whats the betterly Vetterli is a bigger crime then 100 dead hunters killed imo

[@HuntShowdownLab]

I thought the trope was a bit overdone, but maybe I should have leaned into it.

[@maxtugger1859]

I really enjoy the Vetterli, it’s fun to play, has a good ammo count, great iron sights and I generally take it with flame rounds for putting pressure on. It’s cost effective for when you have wasted a lot of hunt dollors.

[@alepouna]

after watching your silencer fmj veterli video, I played for about 20 games and got at least 4-5Ks each game, I gotta say this gun is kinda cracked. I dislike the default ADS but the silencer one is much nicer.

[@PowPowPeng1]

Big fan of the deadeye and the silencer, some of my favorite guns.

[@superguy183828]

Wow, I disagree with almost every single thing you said. Which is so cool! I really appreciate this video (and all your content) and it's so cool that other people can find different preferences and there isn't a clear "meta tier list" of objectively better and worse guns. And it makes me want to get outside my comfort zone and reconsider loadouts I don't usually use. It really speaks to the balance and variety of guns for there to be something for everyone. (i love the bayonet, the deadeye scope, high velocity ammo, incendiary, etc) (but who am I kidding, I'm off to play with centennial shorty silence dumdum instead)

[@HuntShowdownLab]

Yup. Play preference and style have a lot to do with it. I've not much cared for 'meta' or 'best'. Enjoying the playstyle is what matters the most for me. The variety in hunt is such a joy.

[@hooyabaaa2]

Another good thing (at least to me) is the sights of the silenced version... You can hit things! Sparks or Winfield silenced are terrible to hit with those iron sights and i also think that Vetterli is more silenced lol (im correct?) Aside the bullet velocity being OBSCENELY SLOW, the weapon itself is the best ''overall stealth'' option in the game in my opinion. Not counting bows because they arent that good after some range.

[@Draidis]

The Vetterli is also one of my favorite guns and my go-to in a pinch. Although, I personally feel very differently about the scopes. I love the deadeye! I think it gives the most precise aiming crosshairs and allows for thsoe slightly farther away kills I would normally struggle with without a scope. However, I feel about the marksman scope, the way you feel about the deadeye. I just struggle to aim and get hits with it and if I am going to snipe, I would frankly just prefer a true sniper rifle than a gun not built for such things. We are on the same page about pretty much everything else though. GREAT VIDEO!

[@ammaterra]

Good thing abou silinced version of Vetterli is you always can warmup in accuracy with PVE targets, without noise.

[@HendorneEndohRoth]

Funnily enough, the deadeye is my favourite variant of the vetterli. I find that the scope extends my range viability enough, and makes getting headshots super easy, while suiting the Vetterli's medium range damage and velocity. Although the marksman scope is also good if I wanna fight at even longer ranges.

[@chandora01]

Great video! I was hoping with the Cyclone buffs it would be worth the price tag. Hopefully they do adjust the damage above 124 to be on par with the other variants.

[@t00nbink]

The Cyclone is already my favorite gun in the game before the buffs but now it feels very powerful imo as the lower recoil effectively increases the fire rate for me even more. If they buff it again I wouldn't complain but I don't think it's necessary

[@shoelessbandit1581]

Im surprised the deadeye was your least favorite. It's my personal favorite and i run it with standard ammo so resupplying is easy. Though my favorite lebel is the aperture version so maybe I'm just a hunt hipster

[@HuntShowdownLab]

I just struggle with scopes in general, and I feel like the dead eye requires you to switch in and out more because of the range it serves. I can't stand aperture sights for the same reason. 100% a skill issue, but one i've come to accept :)

[@superguy183828]

​​@@HuntShowdownLabyeah, really when I use aperture, I fold it down and use iron sights 95% of the time. But usually it's negligible price difference to add on an aperture, so why not, and in that 5% of time where you know which window they're going to peek, I fold it up to dial in the kill shot. It basically can't track moving targets, but is actually useful for the better away etc when you're pre-aiming a spot or waiting for an unsuspecting player to stand still.

[@shoelessbandit1581]

@@HuntShowdownLab yeah I can see why people wouldn't like it. I like the versatility that low magnification scopes give with a deadeye I feel comfortable engaging targets from 15 meters to 100. With the higher magnification scopes I feel more restricted to longer range fights that I could also reasonably use a deadeye for

[@ianlynn399]

I want to enjoy the veterlli but I just cannot get used to the sights on the base model, I'm constantly aiming too low. That's why I prefer the deadeye for mid range and rely more heavily on a sidearm for close combat. That's all preference though

[@Bllksem]

11:00 I mean whenever I’ve run the veterli silencer I take hv ammo to try and offset the velocity nerf the silencer gives. When you take hv ammo on the silencer you end up with around 380 m/s and the regular ammo has 410 m/s iirc. For me at least this helps because it’s close enough that you can kind of lead the same amount as you do with the regular veterli. Also then I take the pax trueshot with hv to stack the ammo pools and that goes up to nearly 600m/s. So for shots at 75m+, and when the enemies know where you are anyway you can shoot with that instead and have an easier time landing your headshots. I will try fmj next time, maybe now I can manage the low velocity, but ive always struggled a lot in hunt with low velocity weapons to where it just feels like my bullets are disappearing and I can’t hit my shots. Not having tracers in the game really doesn’t help with learning velocities so for most of my play time on my primaries I try to have at least around 400m/s velocity which felt pretty intuitive coming from other non hit scan games.

[@adsan7787]

Base vetterli with base ammo is probably the gun that I'm most consistent in terms of two-tapping

[@Ninja-Game]

Deadeye sights are great on many guns. My guess is if it's not comfortable for you, then you haven't used it enough or you haven't found the right sensitivity to use for it. I use different sensitivities on each different scope type. It's all personal preference and depends on your other settings too. It's important to find the sweet spot that works for you. You should be able to point blank fire and snipe with Deadeyes with ease when you found it.

[@Ribbitual1896]

I'm here for the green screen. This is a bandwagon I might just hop on.

[@hkxche]

Weirdly enough I love the deadeye with fmj. Perfect scope for close range possibilities with long range/wallbang capabilities

[@kingkracker1998]

i like the staby stab version of the veterlie

[@Thermalfusi0n]

Im a big fan of you putting yourself on the screen instead of the little stickman. I think it makes your videos a lot better ! The quality of the video itself is absurdly high and concise as always

[@Ajattaro]

Stickman is his brand tho!

[@ammaterra]

Nice video about my favorite gun. Skin for silinced vetterli from snake event is best skin in a game. )

[@kaydenb3]

Suggesting high velocity on the cyclone is a no-no.

[@DigitalWolverine]

Gonna disagree with you there! Post-update the recoil is super manageable, as long as you’re not strafing while you shoot!

[@aramathe4791]

Many hunters enter the labs, very few come out

[@red_menace1829]

BAYO-NET 🎉 and MEE-LEE 🥳 lol love your vids man

[@cyberbully7942]

does the still clue turn red and make audio for the opossing team if you had already picked it up?

[@HuntShowdownLab]

No. If you pick up a clue it does not turn red. The clip where I mention the clue being white was because we were not close enough to it. Both you and the opponnent need to be within so many meters for it to glow red. I think it's 75, but not sure exactly. EDIT: I misread your comment. Even of you got the clue, it will glow red for other teams.

[@shifty7629]

@@HuntShowdownLab it will for the opposition team, provided they haven't grabbed it (or had it grey out on them), which I believe is what the person you responded to was asking.

[@HuntShowdownLab]

Good clarification. I misread their comment.@@shifty7629

[@cyberbully7942]

@@HuntShowdownLab thx

[@cyberbully7942]

@@shifty7629 thx

[@tyrionas]

I just wanted to commenton your comparison between the Vetterli ans the centennial, there are other aignificant differences in my opinion that are qorth noting. The vetterli is significantly cheaper and the aoft characteristics of the weapon are also much better, by that I mean the sway, the recoil, etc. making it nicer to aim and do follow up shots with.

[@chasehall3367]

In regards to Cyclone- does this consider the update it got with W”Desolation’s Wake? I know they reduced both the (long) reload time and the recoil.

[@HuntShowdownLab]

No, This was all recorded and done pre-update. I should have added an adendum mentioning that. I'll pin a comment, good point.

[@MrOrdosan]

first second in and you already missed the chance to say "to get to know my favorite gun betterli"

[@HuntShowdownLab]

I avoided the trope, but perhaps I should have leaned into it...

[@CrabQueen]

Remember how everyone was frothing at the mouth about the cyclone? "Hunts getting too fast" "too many guns that shoot quickly" "it's going to ruin the game" And now no one runs it because rate of fire isnt the end all be all in this game lol lmao

[@HuntShowdownLab]

Yup. I think the ammo limitations and recoil are what hold it back. I think they'd be fine leaving the damage at 130 like the rest of the line.

[@Helldragon789]

Id really love to get into rifles, like the Vetterli, but i just feel so naked being in a compound and not having a shotgun. I feel like i cant push or defend. Its probably a mindset thing

[@HuntShowdownLab]

The drilling is a great tool for learning one or the other. I can’t stand shotguns and am using it to get comfortable with them!

[@Helldragon789]

@@HuntShowdownLab I might just need to bite the bullet and give it a shot, lol puns, for a bit then. It's so darn expensive, but ah so be it

[@КоньВПальто-е9р]

I main silenced vetterli with high velocity. To be honest, I am not concerned about muzzle and louder sound. They are still subtle enough to not to reveal your position (however that might be because I play at 4 stars) if don't position yourself in the obvious location. I think fmj are still pretty good, for improved penetration is smth I miss with high vel. Still, 240 m/s is so fkin slow. Like yeah, you lose only 40 m/s but still you shoot slower than pistols with fmj. Such slow bullet is a pain when you have a direct fight and enemies are strafing. 350 m/s is not a fast bullet, yet at least it's somewhat comparable to standard of 400 m/s. Personally, I don't want my primary gun to be only slightly faster than the hand crossbow I'm usually taking with it.

[@HalfWolf2]

A note if you didn't know, high velocity ammo gives suppressed guns muzzle flash and also makes them louder, so it's generally a no-go, but when down to preference, it's still more stealthy than no suppressor, and ofc with the new sights 1896 added, potentially preferable irons

[@КоньВПальто-е9р]

@@HalfWolf2 i guess I mentioned that I'm aware about the muzzle flash and the sound. In practice I found it to be not impactful enough to not to take high vels (however I'm still 4 stars). However in 1896 they just fkin massacred high vels. Now I don't know what to main since vetterli silenced + high vels was my main loadout

[@kudokoshi4257]

I think in variant, cyclone got me the most kills. I find it easier to hipfire mid range with it.

[@tannerhenry1356]

IDC what anyone says the cyclone with high velocities is insane I'm always trying new weapons but anytime I'm having a bad night the cyclone brings me back I cant miss or be killed with that thing in my hands!!!!!! also what is the MMR ranges for these matches that's a lot of dudes standing still!!!!! I'm a high 5 low 6 star (sometimes) player and I haven't seen a dude stand still since being a low 4 star

[@DigitalWolverine]

Great video man. But also.. May-lay.. may-lay!! 😭

[@kostjaplays8428]

Vetterli silencer

[@guilhermebreder6474]

The only thing you miss for do a perfect vídeo, was the hat 🤠

[@AndyTF141]

Hey if it is my favorite lab cowboy guy, and apparently he is good looking too, watch out ladies he is on the hunt

[@StoneKnight1]

damn you arre not the stick figure with cowboy hat?

[@V-T-W]

i liked little hat stickman... i will say you look very handsome :)

[@HuntShowdownLab]

Thanks, the cowboy will be back! He takes a lot more effort to do, so this lets me get simpler videos out without taking as much time away from the research based content.

[@V-T-W]

@@HuntShowdownLabIf you ever need help i can be of assistance

[@duplex42]

Vetterli aperture when?

[@cadmium7390]

Deadeye good for solo rat runs. Just as long you got duals for close combat.

[@thatwasmetal9179]

3:45 please forgive me but what is dead eye? Do you mean iron eye?

[@HuntShowdownLab]

Yeah, I miss-spoke.

[@thatwasmetal9179]

@@HuntShowdownLab ah alright. Thanks :) good information

[@willpickett5307]

I know that you get a lot of positive feedback for your videos but I just wanted to let you know that you have a well manicured beard sir. Signed, Your Bearded Bro, Will.

[@topside1981]

He found the best-erli

[@b0rbel]

why not the base with FMJ?

[@HuntShowdownLab]

I alternate between that and high velocity for the base. It depends on your play style, do you need more help with wallbanging or leading targets? Both are solid picks. I just tend to prefer HV on the base, but not by a large margin.

[@b0rbel]

@@HuntShowdownLab okay, thank you for answering :)

[@IShallCallHimTaders]

The vetterly just feels too off, like the bullet velocity feels bad.

[@RedshirtAfficionado]

3:46 you said deadeye instead of Iron Eye.

[@SWFrost-tg3vm]

Current state of servers makes all types of high velocity ammo irrelevant. FMJ.. is thing you want

[@wilkham2678]

Dumdum on 1876 just totally phased out base Vetterli in my opinion.

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

Hate the sights on the base.

[@Scott.E.H]

I really prefer the old style over the face cam stuff.

[@HuntShowdownLab]

I do to. He'll come back for the researched based videos. He adds a decent amount of time to my production process, so in order to not have these lighter videos take too much time away from the deep dives, i'll do this from time to time.

[@alepouna]

@@HuntShowdownLab Mix em up!

[@mikurusagawa6897]

The best vetterli is my teammate's vetterli because I can't shoot that gun for shit :D

[@ToropsZ]

Betterly is my favorite weapon too❤❤❤

[@curzzed4844]

Vetterli is simply Not for me since the centennial offers me more loadout variations

[@abbadox315]

8:01 slim shady

[@GamingZ_enith]

IS THAT A MUTTDORKING FACE REVEAL?

[@sethmiller2532]

More like the Betterli, amirite?

[@HuntShowdownLab]

100%

[@Eunski]

The iron sights of base vetterli is straight up trash.

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

As Homereel says. "Vetterli, vetterli, it makes the girls wett...erli.

[@merlosisgroovebox]

Winfield incendiary ammo,pax claw dum dum all the time every time

[@smilestheemo3365]

Vetterli enjoyers unite

[@AsBusiness-jm1rb]

invest some time to scoops. you will change your mind. it is actually easier to fight with scope. you gotta have traits otherwise it is sh.t tho

[@HuntShowdownLab]

I do like marksman scopes, it's the dead eye ones I just can't get feeling good about. I swore them off hundreds of hours ago, but perhaps I'd feel different about them if I gave them a cincere chance again.

[@AsBusiness-jm1rb]

@@HuntShowdownLab everyone got their style

[@m1cs0w]

are u ping abuser? it looks for this with ur extreme delays

[@HuntShowdownLab]

No. I get matched in NA East and West. I think on west, i'm about 50-60. I did notice there were a couple clips where the delay were particularily high.

[@m1cs0w]

@@HuntShowdownLab no Problem :) but 50 to 60 is really high... 😅

[@leviribelin7018]

@@m1cs0wdamn i get 40 on east and 60 on west

[@kamonkami]

The betterli.

[@emrekara5948]

You have Beautiful eyes bro ( I am not gay )

[@emiyamuljomdao1185]

This guy is cheater or every highlight that he post was paid actors or either 2 stars lobby 😂 So staged as hell lol

[@HuntShowdownLab]

I play in 3-4 star lobbies. If you want high skill plays, there are plenty of great channels out there. My focus is on providing resources to better understand and enjoy the game.

[@haydenlockwood5761]

First

[@TrojanSalesmen1]

well only betas and losers take the Cenny.. THe Vetterli is for normal, based and skilled players. The Deadeye is my most used actually for some reason the scopes are

[@sazoneh821]

there is no way this guy isn't a 3 star, he thinks he knows his shit but many things are just basic knowledge about the game and his gameplay is shit

[@rumsbums3113]

All you need to know is that you just don't play it... it literally is just bad... end of Story

[@Hextin]

Why do you mispronounce roof everytime lmao

[@HuntShowdownLab]

I have several words my brain just can't hear right for some reason. I mess up wolf everytime too, but it sounds right in my head.