WHAT ZZZ ENDGAME LOOKS LIKE | ZENLESS ZONE ZERO Shiyu Defense Stage 10

Zenless Zone Zero Amplifying Test - This Mode is like Memory of Chaos from Star Rail. SHIYU DEFENSE STAGE 10 A-rank Clear
0:00 Intro
1:02 First Boss
4:44 Second Boss
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Game: Zenless Zone Zero, from miHoYo / Hoyoverse, the same developer as hit game Honkai Impact 3rd, Genshin Impact and Honkai: Star Rail
#zenlesszonezero #zzzero #hoyocreators #zzzgameplay

[@MarisaHonkai]

Ok apparently the max level is 60, not 80 like star rail and genshin. Kinda explains why lv40-50 grind felt like lv 60-70 in star rail. Still, the bosses should be lv 60+? idk maybe it's just beta

[@robertoalexandermendezmore408]

max level in Genshin is 90

[@starcuddler2601]

Been watching you since HI3 days, kinda nostalgic seeing your videos for ZZZ, i hope you keep making more of these videos after release as well!

[@user-dk7ic1ci2z]

? it’s still hi3 days

[@starcuddler2601]

@@user-dk7ic1ci2z ok? have fun?

[@hanipierce5710]

I think this game shine the most when your fighting multipale enemys.

[@shinhikaru]

What I'm noticing is that ZZZ's gameplay is really similar to HI3 Astral Ring Team. ZZZ's Character Ultimate is basically similar to HI3's Stellar Outburst mechanic. It's actually simple and players can actually learn the mechanic quickly. Basically just HI3 but with Relic/Artifact Farming.

[@HirakiSHIKI]

In my opinion, I think ZZZ's combat is closer to HI3 Part 1, the big differentiator being the parry system. Other than that Part 2 and I think HI3 as a whole seems to have a more technical and in-depth combat system in place.

[@hayategojita2653]

HI3 focus on rotation, while zzz focus on combat

[@HirakiSHIKI]

@hayategojita2653 That was the case with Part 1. However, Part 2 combat is a lot more dynamic with comps and rotations, and they're not as restrictive anymore.

[@hayategojita2653]

@@HirakiSHIKI nah even part 2 still focus rotation

[@UmeDosz]

​@@HirakiSHIKInow you're just lying

[@mrhankypie7901]

It looks great. I just wished everyone had separate ultimate recharging so you could more than one ultimate during rotations like HI3

[@kaisalkaissy9508]

In later patchs. that how games evolve slowly from the feedback of players.

[@olstpa]

I like that there is only one ulti for the entire team and that you really have to decide well which ulti to use according to what you need, it really makes it feel like the ultimate ability and not just another ability, many games with teams become a constant spam of ultis and personally that bores me, I prefer that the ulti be something special and that it can be used very occasionally and that much of your damage does not depend on having it almost all the time, but obviously these are personal preferences,

[@Wawawawawa750]

tbf SP regen on early gen Honkai 3rd Characters is horrible (Himekos, Bronyas, and Theresas I'm looking at you), which basically relegates you to one good ultimate since it takes forever to get any one back then. These days Honkai ultimates are an afterthought unless you're a support bcs every DPS valk these days just have do big dmg ults (Literally, FV, Thelema, Sena, and Lantern all have ults that just time stop and do big dmg, Thelema has that time stop mechanic on her weapon but it's still just basically big dmg). They all do the same thing, do big dmg, so ultimates in Honkai these days are not special just an extra multiplier you can fit in every 1 or 2 rotations. Astral ring is THE ultimate now, an actual game changing ability that takes time to charge. I hope ultimates actually feel like something you earn and enjoy in ZZZ, unlike Honkai ultimates that look pretty but seeing FV hit for 3 Million Fire Damage on ult isn't that exciting when it has no mechanical difference to Senadina who can do the same but with Lightning Damage instead

[@teeman7137]

After playing for a week, I do understand why they did that and its not as bad as you guys think. Since its an over the top action combat, the game doesnt want to rely on ult too much (it would be draining if we had to use epic animation over the normal epic animation). Also this restriction impose the player to actually make quick choice during combat. Each ult have in fact different fonctions. This doesnt mean we wont get a team around ult in the futur thi who knows.

[@DanielSantos-kt3xh]

The more I watch anything about this game, the more intrigued I get. People are calling it boring because they haven't played yet. It was the same situation with HSR

[@Datscrazi231]

I played hsr and it got boring like so fast 😭😭😭😭 not tryna hate tho

[@turtletre324]

Same this dose feel boring to look at same move rotation not a lot to take me off of pgr if I wanted to play this field again

[@ParafrostV]

I played the cbt3 and got bored

[@veingaming262]

I mean hsr is still boring tbh

[@saikodesu4421]

Different people, different tastes for games. It’s fine if it gets boring for other people. Some will play it as a side game.

[@revengeofshadow9353]

I wish hoyo games tried to research or experiment with different things than time attacks on their "hardest" content. It is starting to feel samey after all these years.

[@UmeDosz]

They figured how to put a timer in a turn based, this ain't going away anytime soon

[@lw9194]

Anything that doesn't involve time can be cleared with cheese. Imagine you fight any enemy with lvl. 1 range attacker and just run n gun it. Maybe they can go with style meter, but then how do you measure it? By combo length might not work if the combo create too much dmg and kill the enemy first. Or the combination of the two? In the end of the day time attack is the easiest method to measure performance that involved fighting.

[@revengeofshadow9353]

@@lw9194 Not really. Can you define cheese? Why would it not be a strategy and just cheese? Maybe some people like being really tanky and sustain the fight and draw it out. Maybe some people like ramping up damage that is back loaded. The timer is just there for making people feel like they are losing out on rewards that are not even that important in the guise of challenging content which could be made more challenging without the timer, and the end goal is making money through it by selling power. So timers doesn't really measure performance, just how strong your wallet OR your time to get good gear is.

[@lw9194]

@@revengeofshadow9353 the kind of cheese as in "defeating Ganon with a stick". But again, most gacha game afaik do this (put timer in hard content) so it's nothing new.

[@loqztv]

time is the most effective way to assign ranks to endgame clears (S, A, B, etc.)

[@KniveMikoto]

Thanks for helping me overcome my insomnia

[@Sergio-gy3il]

it looks awesome, cant wait for it.

[@Ade_Browne]

the intro music is fire ngl💥

[@DarknessOne04]

Wow It looks fun I'm Hyped for the release

[@markambray7616]

how do you make the bangboo go first in chain attacks? ive only done it with bangboos as last option 😞

[@momox22917]

animation and music is 🔥

[@monkeydluffy5054]

I can kinda see myself do this a lot just for fighting with characters I like to use

[@villv5000]

nice job

[@quochuyduong9421]

it looks aweeeesoooooooooooooome

[@emiya1986]

Beautiful ending)

[@blahblahgdp]

Thank god for this, dont need to grind to end game for the same gameplay lmao

[@raeandschannel]

So... would you be a ZZZ content creator when it releases (i.e. making guides)?

[@touff333]

I love Anton so much

[@jaesthminie]

Anton looks so cool hehshshshshhs

[@TnAfeatKouha]

so basically it's memorial arena ?

[@Yeest540]

So like...arcade mode?

[@Sacrifu]

SO HYPE

[@TheCryingDove69]

Still waiting for Miyabi

[@zardon_zane1630]

The bosses feel like, HP Sponges?, their movements are too slow and they are too static, hope they improve their movesets

[@user-kb3gg1lk6t]

300s 6分鐘我肯定拿不到S呀。課金嗎？

[@kaisalkaissy9508]

That how Persona 5 would look like if it was Action RPG. it Very cool gameplay looks addictive.

[@basushen]

Persona 5 as action rpg would look like persona 5 strikers, not like yet another hoyo game

[@kaisalkaissy9508]

@@basushen For me the graphic of this game give me the same feeling that Persona 5 give me. short note _ast time played Persona 5 is in 2021.

[@kevinellvanreisyer6219]

What do i get after like 10 minutes in game fighting that ?

[@UmeDosz]

50 gems

[@Breakfree1313]

What are those enemy movesets? 😭 Are they actually bosses? Hopefully they actually have interesting moves and not just slash 1, slash 2, slash but overhead and something.

[@pivad1388]

Eh, I won't really expect any good boss design from HoYo, seeing Hi3rd, Genshin, and now this game. Bosses are either punching bags or convoluted puzzles. Really unfortunate since they have really good animations for their combat.

[@lx_kim]

should i give up hi3 for this game??

[@AsterWi]

i think you should try the game first before deciding

[@WindDevil1]

not gonna lie, that bulldoze boss is a funny idea

[@myu98_]

I wasn't a big fan of zzz but seeing a few videos made me really like it. The art and some characters are really nice for me. But Mihoyo... knowing them makes me wonde rif they do it any better Co op.. and such...that's why I quit all of their games

[@redwolfie610]

I just hit proxy lvl 40

[@supernieva2419]

gonna ask do they have elemental weakness or reaction in this game?.

[@MarisaHonkai]

It’s more like Honkai Impact. Enemies take more damage from certain elements

[@obihz2415]

There Is a short of reaction called dissorder

[@themyth3686]

I agree with the majority saying "it's just rotation for X minutes" I love the art and the arcade stuff, but you don't know what's happening during the fights

[@johnd7760]

Not like every game of that kind isn't demanding certain rotation(s) tho😂

[@ankh15]

So its just a "punching bag" type of endgame?

[@andreamarques8328]

Ive counted and the first boss has 4 moves and the second 3 moves, so, yes, they are punchingbags with a few different moves

[@hoseki4031]

The bosses just let him jump them like that, it doesn't give you an urgency to run around to potentially avoid a fatal hit, the bosses felt more like damage sponges instead of an actual opponent.

[@Salty_Gacha_Gamer]

Ngl the combat does look good but it feels way too bullet sponge kinda thing. I believe they could make the bosses better but not hide them behind invincibility frames. Kinda like Raiden Shogun boss 2nd stage but there would be attacks you can parry and all attacks you can dodge with that kind of HP pool seems like a reasonable and interesting boss to duke it out with. The construction thingy was just an okay boss and it was way too bullet sponge like. The other one even more lack lustre, it's like one of those generic souls like mobs that you fight in the tutorial

[@wearevenom81]

See I watch everyone else do these end game runs and it's the only thing turning me off on it. Don't get me wrong I don't want it easy, but it feels like such a grind to dwindle the health bar down, maybe when we get more characters out there or we can go past level 50, but I just don't look forward to a three to 4 mintue straight button mash of repeating the same combo over and over

[@david_ace]

I always felt like the game would not be as successful as his sibling but i think it will find his playerbase..from people bored of gi gameplay or those who don't like hsr gameplay or even people that stopped honkai or are afraid to start the game

[@gertruidagertruida3920]

well, I'll definitely move to ZZZ after 7 years of HI3 now that part 2 design and story becoming trash GI-HSR like chinese colossal drama

[@david_ace]

@@gertruidagertruida3920 tbh i dont have a problem with the part 2 story and character they all have an impact on the story unlike p1 when they were just carried along.. and the gacha is better so..

[@andreamarques8328]

You are right, but this game will only be successful based in being a Hoyo game, the gameplay is lackluster at the moment compared to other company games like Wuthering Waves, I hope it gets a lot better mainly on the enemies side cause Im really interested in this game

[@kurohanamaiki5344]

​@@david_acewell I mean, that's basically what HoYo wanted To find the players who played or interested on the genre &/ gameplay So despite it's not having that much of income, they'll gain the loyal players that might royal at the same time in the game Just like Honkai, not many people play the game, but it received loyal players who keep playing and whaling for the game

[@kurohanamaiki5344]

​@@andreamarques8328ah yes, why won't I be surprised to see Kuro Fanboys keep on attacking ZZZ like there's no tomorrow? Then act like a victim or becoming defensive the moment we said something about the game Come on, I'm so sick to see PowerPoint simulator when playing the game, that thing is not a release game, but instead an open beta test, not even that great with memory leak, crashing, lagging, stupid Pings, and so much yapping with the lame story except on some places Stop using WW in every single videos and posts about ZZZ and HoYo games, y'all aren't that different with GI "Fans"

[@boboverlord1]

Subtitle: Bosses hit like a truck Showcase: Each boss hit is 1/4 of HP at most

[@zeroprimo2623]

how are you liking zzz overall so far?

[@MarisaHonkai]

- Good gameplay - Story presentation is next level Wont spend money tho cus gacha and progression is basically star rail

[@KLDvinicius]

This is a mihoyo game or a Playstation 5 exclusive, this game are beautiful

[@Itukah1]

This is mihoyo game, and no, this is not PlayStation 5 exclusive, they eventually will release it on other platforms too

[@KLDvinicius]

@@Itukah1 Bro i was making a joke

[@Itukah1]

@@KLDvinicius a sorry I thought it was a question

[@andreamarques8328]

@@Itukah1well on console it is PS exclusive, since it will release on PS, PC and Phone, no Switch or Xbox for now

[@acenie]

only one character can ult?

[@MarisaHonkai]

Ye

[@andreamarques8328]

First boss had 4 different moves Second boss had 3 different moves Player actions are great but the bosses movesets/mechanics are lackluster at best and Ill get bored of them after 2-3 fights max

[@bunnyyy-mm1rk]

tragic how all progress gonna be gone 😭

[@khanhhung3246]

Is Honkai worth playing?

[@mleong75]

Yes. Despite its flaws, it's easily the best story Mihoyo has written. Gameplay wise, more interesting than ZZZ. You rotate through a party of 3. Combat flows smoothly because of QTEs upon entry. Part2 introduces aerial combat and dual ults (Stellar outburst) to the core gameplay. For cosmetics, it has the best skins as well. 5* outfits are absolutely gorgeous, loaded with SFX and not locked behind a paywall. For the downsides, the endgame is a leaderboard. So you compete with other players for scores. My advice is stick to Agony 3 - RL. So you don't have to chase the meta so much. Dps typical lifespan is about 1yr, while supports having 1.5yrs or more. This is if you want to retain Nirvana. Not recommended for f2ps at all. For gacha system, there's no 50/50 in char banner. 90pulls hard pity, that's it. Gear consists of sig wep + 3xstigmata. Part2 valk stigs are craftable. But you have to pull for sig wep. 60pulls hard pity but banner has no off-rates. Overall, I find it funny how HI3 still has the best gameplay out of all the Hoyo games for me. Despite being the oldest flagship title lol

[@funplayer05.1]

@@mleong75why is it best? No obnoxious amount of rng needed when building a character just to get the right substats While gear in HI3rd is also “premium” due to it having a seperate gacha and still being kinda necessary, they partly fixed it in part2 with everyone’s stigmata being craftable (except weapon). It’ll only get annoying if you really want to roll for affixes but that’s not too important

[@mleong75]

@funplayer05.1 Ikr. I just love the feeling of being able to use my new char immediately. Not wait for 6months for them to be decent. HSR is slightly better than GI though. Because a huge part of crit stats are tied behind LC, traces, eidolons and party buffs. I took about 2 months to min max my IL and Acheron. Meanwhile in GI, my char is still WIP almost half a year later. Like wtf. A lot of people saying HSR doesn't have off-piece making it worse, are only looking at the surface. Because GI relies on pure RNG most of the time, to get your desired stats. I also feel that it's easier to roll into crit stats for HSR Vs GI.

[@hayategojita2653]

⁠​⁠in genshin my arlecchino attack 100k damage with gladiator set in 3 days. While HSR take me 1-2 month for decent archeron, it harder bcoz this game have no free slot.

[@harfi212]

​​@mleong75 lmao, you must be a fanboy if you think hsr artifact system are better. 6 artifact slot, 2 separate farming place, no off piece, more substat option means more rng. Your luck is not a fact.

[@Yurika-rie]

yeah that looks definitely fun would rather sleep

[@hoseki4031]

zzz

[@Ynbreezey12]

This would be dope asf if multiplayer with unique boss mechanics/phases...

[@victorb5]

Seems like a somewhat fun game but the hp bars and damage numbers are incredibly unappealing for me ...

[@wolf-sa]

god to hit but not good to face weakness Leaders

[@Sakaki98]

All I know is I don’t have the time or patience for artifact farming in 3 games at once. Star Rail is the only one I really tolerate since it lets me bypass RNG every once in a while by choosing a main stat of my choice with self-modeling resin. Grinding for weeks or even months with literally zero progress solely due to bad luck(I STILL can’t get a full EM Gilded Set for Nahida even though I’ve been grinding it on and off since her very first banner) is the second worst form of endgame next to shitty Korean MMOs randomly breaking your gear during enhancement…

[@guilhermebotazzo7525]

Finally, Genshin Impact 3rd

[@RealGt-hy9jq]

hhh gg

[@ofibao8212]

So basically bosses with a lot of health and a ton of repetitive button smashing? No, thank you

[@joselubota8110]

First

[@Bollemis]

zzzzzzzz

[@menumaxibest0f]

The graphics looks great, art and chara design looks original but honestly the game looks boring. Having to fight bosses with tons of hp and doing the same rotation for x minutes. It doesn't look like there is multiple phase or a good variety of skills, plus you can only ult with 1 character... I don't feel really good about this, ppl might get bored pretty quickly.

[@mleong75]

Bascially reminds me of why I quitted PGR, even after getting crimson weave. Teammates are essentially QTE bots. Fighting with 1 char (which is the optimal way) is boring af. But at least PGR has interesting boss mechanics to sorta compensate. ZZZ so far has none. This game will get boring so quick.

[@bopdabot]

Do note that these enemies are elite enemies that appear in regular missions, not actual bosses. They're just repurposed as bosses in shiyu defence

[@ArthurJason-Constantine]

Yes. They talk the same when genshin and star rail came out.

[@menumaxibest0f]

@@ArthurJason-Constantine Genshin was the first successful open world gacha rpg and added new gameplay features like interaction between elements, star rail renewed turn based gacha rpg but ZZZ doesn't seem to be adding cool gameplay feature that other games like Honkai 3rd or PGR haven't done yet.

[@zitherwoe]

@@mleong75you're not obliged to use only one character though. if someons wants to have fun by playing then they should use all the characters in the team. getting so many characters with such good animations just to use them as qte bots is kind of a waste, but ofc it's subjective

[@einekleine7805]

😴😴😴😴

[@Nvp678]

This game looks and I mean LOOKS so good but gameplay is gonna make me skip 100%!

[@Wasabi574]

Meh

[@lvcfro]

i guess i'll be keeping Hi3 then. NEXT!!!

[@shimazutakuma1031]

This... is like uhhh, Persona game with Monster Hunter gameplay 😂

[@andreamarques8328]

I don't think you have ever played Monster Hunter or even seen what the gameplay is like

[@shimazutakuma1031]

@@andreamarques8328 it's like what you saw in this game clip, battles with thicc bosses and you have to do things over and over until you killed it

[@andreamarques8328]

@@shimazutakuma1031 oh you meant in that way, cause Monster Hunter gameplay is more like Dark Souls slow and methodical observing the enemy for chances to attack contrary to here

[@Dorankuu]

Wow the combat and bosses here look extremely boring and 💤 worthy

[@hoseki4031]

we sleeping through the release with this one 💯

[@seika4630]

lowkey more hyped for this than WuWa ngl

[@7cycles413]

Most people who play wuwa is genshin hate wagon and kuro elitist anyway

[@marielgalicha8548]

Same, I don't care how much hate ZZZ or they think it is boring for them. I would probably play this game a lot even WW is near why not play both

[@harfi212]

Ww looks good when you watching it. But when you play it, the dejavu & similarities of genshin on that game gonna be unbearable.

[@arifasatria7704]

Same, Im hyped for this more tbh, I know damn well I will get bored of WW after finishing the story, its just grind all over again

[@lw9194]

​@@harfi212 people forgot that behind all that complex mechanics it's just Kuro's attempt to make Genshin.

[@raewsyadrs4645]

Everything about this game looks great, except for the bosses. Like the dude is just standing their and spins around every few seconds. Imo for action rpgs, its not the characters and mechanics that make the combat feel good, its the enemies/bosses. There’s basically no difference in fighting this excavator boss and a training dummy. Genshin has the exact same problem.

[@StephenTheZ]

Ewww no. The best action games prioritize a good player moveset. Enemy design is important, but, you can give an enemy like 50 different attack patterns to memorize and it doesn't make for a fun encounter if the answer to all 50 of those is to just dodge through it and then get a couple of pokes in. There needs to be decision making in how you actually use your character's moveset.

[@pivad1388]

@@StephenTheZ lmfao wtf no. why are you treating like those two things are mutually exclusive? what's the use of a good player moveset if all bosses are unengaging glorified punching bags? and the opposite, what's a good bossfight if it doesn't feel good to fight it?

[@Cloudo4]

The actual game will have music, I guess. Its absolutely lame like this.

[@7WhiteSword]

kind of a shame the endgame is basically HI3rd: braindead boss, time limit for DPS check, just doing rotation. looks boring

[@itsmerota8523]

Another punching bag enemies smh. What's the purpose having some flashy move and the bosses just standing there facing their fate to death? Bruh, really wasted potential tbh.

[@arra7886]

Kelihatan boring nya ni gem

[@puturere]

ya memang begitu pola nya, kamu mengharapkan apa setelah ada dmc5?

[@ragno-monoover4710]

The 3 character limit already killed it for me. It’s very HI3 and I really don’t feel that, the teamccomps you can actually build are gonna really limited compared to other hoyo games (Hsr and Genshin)

[@marcuskane1040]

Why bosses are nothing but passive punching bags with tonns of HP? Massive let down.

[@de_vix]

All the people that are complaining about the color is too dark that the who freaking point of the game it meant to be a darker theme game if you want a colorful game go play genshin we don’t need you in this game if all you will do is complain because this game will succeed without you

[@nikki4803]

Quite frankly I feel like a few of those people are trolls but calling it dark is so odd. It's raining in the stages showcased here but every other time I've been gameplay it's been in an environment with sunny weather. It's not particularly bright and all cuz they tend to be in CONSTRUCTION zones. You know, where you'd expect a lot of gravel and stone and metal. The city looks quite lively to me otherwise.

[@Cryingbuffedman99]

Complaining deeznuts

[@Mantismobius]

In my opinion this game kind of feels old with it's design I meant the ui. I didn't know that is called ui so stop!

[@Mantismobius]

And ui aren't good either 😕

[@de_vix]

@@Mantismobiusthat the who freaking point of the game it meant to be a darker theme game if you want a colorful game go play genshin

[@yasashii_koe]

Compared to what? Have you ever played a Persona game in your life? This looks more modern than at least 50% of the Persona games out there.

[@TheCryingDove69]

@@Mantismobiustf you yapping about zzz graphics being bad?

[@de_vix]

@@yasashii_koedon’t mind this Braindead users complaining about the darker theme it will be this same dumbasses that will complain of wuthering waves darker coloring like I said this users should stick to genshin we don’t need them

[@rumi8307]

bro the battle is taking too long and repetitive, its kinda boring to see

[@xelloskaczor5051]

I see a timer, i confirm again i will not even download the game

[@lw9194]

Oh no timer, my only weakness

[@LorielII]

If this is the endgame content, I think it's not worth to try. Boss moveset look really dump @@. I expect more than that 😂

[@anomals9692]

please just make enemy attack pattern fast and hard to read wtf is this another baby game

[@Yagami-o6j]

Boring gameplay

[@renzoblanc6877]

Hi3 2 part is better tha this wtf

[@kilikilio5321]

i hate gamplay rotation. it is ugly to watch. like every character will be swapped at every 4-5 second. but still genshin is the most ugly of all. not even 2 second character is always be swapped and rotate. hope there is a game that the rotation is implement to just swap the weapon / rotate the weapon only. or at least adding that as a choice