Punishing Gray Raven vs Zenless Zone Zero vs Wuthering Waves vs Genshin Impact (Combat Comparison)

[@Amoryxch]

Timestamp: 00:01 - 02:10 Punishing Gray Raven 02:10 - 03:58 Zenless Zone Zero 03:58 - 05:50 Wuthering Waves 05:50 - 07:55 Genshin Impact Note: Using PGR new gameplay would be too overkill, i want to give others a chance and same goes for wuwa for other bosses. Looking for a helpful & awesome discord wuthering waves community? Join now : discord.gg/Jinzhou

[@naturallyagoraphobic]

@@Amoryxch reasonable note

[@zippo718]

So a comparison comparing nothing.

[@kizumagaming]

*He knew it would be too overkill* 😂

[@akward8246]

@@zippo718 wdym it compares current hoyo vs past kuro, enough for any people with functioning brain to understand the difference.

[@Firstname-b9j]

@@zippo718 it was meaningless to compare the two. The difference is too obvious

[@ekzsuncz7610]

I'm forever grateful that devs like Kuro exist. Specifically devs that said "No auto, no idle, no easy gameplay. You want to be good at our game then STUDY IT." In a market full of gamers that want easy to play mobile games, that kind of move can bring down quite a chunk of your total profit. Kuro stick to it and thankfully the players also stick to Kuro.

[@thomaskennedy5728]

That hardcore gameplay market is big on PC but not on mobile.

[@goodbro2046]

The problem I see her is that wuwa is new, wait 1 or 2 years and we got powercreep characters that will break the game.

[@mostpolitebot1464]

@@goodbro2046 just like what happened in their other game pgr right? pffffft ahaha

[@kskr8610]

please just stop glazing kurogames as some kind of saints lmfao lmfao you know for a fact that 99% of content still can be cleared at any skill level as long as the characters are built

[@Zero-x7v5f]

​@@mostpolitebot1464too bad, the powercreeping character in pgr atleast take 1 year+, unlike other...🥱

[@Kokoadayou]

As a veteran Genshin player, after i try playing Wu wa, i feels like i need to step up from Bored fighting gameplay to combo, dodge, parry, counter gameplay, it's so fun!

[@kokomistark]

legit

[@SmilingCardinal-ei2zf]

Agree🔥

[@poooooya6369]

it's is like playing a same game too much. and you want a fresh air. but it doesn't mean genshin is bad.

[@poooooya6369]

and I don't play genshin nor wuwa. I'm just watching u guys desired to make a game "better" than other game like the other are unplayable

[@ricecola9609]

​@@poooooya6369Genshins alright, but the fact that they don't listen to their playerbase unless someone either doxxes employees, reviewbombs their game and any other companies they collabed with, or are threatened with the CCP makes the game a pain in the ass to deal with.

[@KangHaerin1]

This person had to nerf the pgr footage because if this was a current gameplay of a recent gen pgr character it would be overkill for the rest of these rpg competitors 😂

[@ikhwansaputra4707]

It is actually an older bosses like 2 years ago

[@midnight-blade9413]

its an older boss 2 years ago might be 3

[@Ari-ek1dx]

Imagine they show CW gameplay, others wont even stand a chance

[@pikaachoo3888]

​​@@Ari-ek1dxImagine if he showed the new Lucia-Oathblaze showcase. It would be coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb moment

[@SmolPetals]

@@pikaachoo3888 No need, Lee Hyperreal alone is enough lmao

[@ChaffleWadapon]

GI: Puzzle disguised as a battle ZZZ: * Constant left click and space bar WuWa: * screaming internally * PGR: WHAT IS GOING ON 🗣️🔥🔥🟥🟥🟥🟨🟨🟨🟦🟦🟦⚔️🔫🔪

[@HazardTone]

Lee Hyperreal: Hey eat this piece of nuclear ion cannon 🔥

[@AMtRAGEdy]

HSR: *game plays for you*

[@spinylightgaming]

Thats honestly the best description for pgr puzzles

[@davidm4171]

Yea my bro, you're playing Candy Crush in the middle of Souls boss!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@HazardTone]

@@davidm4171 probably the most ideal than giving it a skill button. It synergized well with the matrix and memories.

[@clayne1723]

After playing WuWa it’s impossible to go back on Genshin anymore, it feels so slow and combat feel so bad now

[@goodbro2046]

Genshin combat Was never the main focus of the game. It's more the storys and the characters.

[@victornguyen1175]

​@@goodbro2046 As someone who bounced off the story and characters super hard and never really liked it, it always seemed to me that they just focused almost completely on exploration and nothing else

[@Je_suis_en_vie]

The fact that even Primogems don't tempt me to go back nor their characters.

[@mht01001]

​@@Je_suis_en_vietrue

[@SkyruHiroz]

what's fun of the story seeing a character's lip cannot sync to what it's saying it feels like he/she not part of the story@@goodbro2046

[@damianadivine4368]

I used to shit talk gacha games. I used to be a part of the "they aren't real games" squad, then I played PGR and WuWa...

[@pikaachoo3888]

You are now one of us. Welcome to the gacha my friend 😂

[@heheboi9435]

Welcome to this "drama" community

[@Hollow__Heart]

I would still say they are held back by their monetization method. I would gladly play a game with WuWa's combat but DMC's or Bayonetta's level-style story progression. Still though, I enjoy wuwa a lot.

[@qeinz]

I'd advise to interact with the community as less as possible because it's toxic as fuck.

[@YOUHUOUGGHHH]

Welcome to the club, enjoy you're time here and please spit on the hoyoclowns whenevrr you see them

[@pravum3150]

My observation is that Hoyoverse action titles just have a lack of rhythm to a fight. The back of forth of the camera, the dynamism of the frame, and the trading of blows by you and the boss.

[@cucumbers366]

In hoyo games you just wait for afk-window for hitting a boss. Kuro's games is about permanent hit-dodge-trading with boss

[@fashyakupercent20]

even honkai impact 3rd combat is so abysmall compared to PGR. "Kuro is just a company that always copied hoyo works with PGR and Wuthering waves" they said. But they cannot explain if Kuro did copy, why did they done it better?

[@silverX3870]

​@@fashyakupercent20 True, I think it's better for hoyoverse to focus on the story for their games since that's clearly what they're best at and something that they do better than pretty much any other gacha game ever made

[@megatbasyarullah4859]

​@@silverX3870ehh. I'd say storytelling rather than story or plot as a whole. Arknights story is amazing and far better imo, just the story telling is inferior (since it doesn't have all the amazing animations and cutscenes hoyo has for immersion). Nikke, despite its..... Fan service actually has a good story as well. And lets not forget the goat fgo.

[@megatbasyarullah4859]

Yeah when it comes to gameplay hoyo always focus on how to make it flashy while kuro focuses on how to make it sweaty

[@carloconsignado4065]

PGR still stays as my top action RPG game on mobile. Next is Wuwa. The other are miles away and are like cake walk when you get used to PGR and Wuwa-level gameplay and bosses.

[@megatbasyarullah4859]

Pgr combat + zzz animations, storytelling and cinematics + WuWa's open world setting = the perfect gacha game.

[@sirmeowmeow7319]

​@@megatbasyarullah4859nah. fck open world. a waste of time running around the map

[@heppelhopv2]

@@megatbasyarullah4859 Low end players will be saying the game sucks cause they can't even run it.

[@ILoveWarzoneInTheComments]

@@megatbasyarullah4859 might as well put elden ring in mobile

[@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz-z7i]

@@heppelhopv2true lmao, I see so many complaints and ppl hopping on the bandwagon saying the game lags too much when they’re literally playing on an iPhone 6 or a 2007 dell laptop 💀

[@Aicy2008]

PGR has an advantage on WuWa because its not an open world so they can put more crazy stuff without breaking the map, but both are the best, Kuro Games truly are Goated

[@matthewalexanderpugar3719]

And it is easier to grind

[@sirmeowmeow7319]

tbh i got tired running around in open world games. i prefer instanced games instead. no need to waste time running around looting stuff

[@DelusionalMf618]

​@@sirmeowmeow7319Same. Open worlds are great, but they often take too much time. Probably why I prefer PGR and Souls games compared to their open World counterparts.

[@Firstname-b9j]

@@sirmeowmeow7319 yeah, weeklies on closed world games like pgr where everything is easily accessible is just the most relaxing thing about pgr.

[@dekirianto5853]

Same like hi3

[@zedeon6299]

Literal elden ring boss vs stationary damage sponge robot 😂

[@fashyakupercent20]

sadly, people would still denial about this😂

[@sirmeowmeow7319]

​@@fashyakupercent20ill try giving this video's link if someone tries to argue

[@Zacrone77]

Elden ring would laught at this boss tbh. And the boss in this video, doesn't give justice to ZZZ. The final boss of the third chapter is more representative Or maybe Ethereal in general

[@pikaachoo3888]

​@@Zacrone77you mean the part 2 boss that stands still 50% of the time and throws the occasional laser and energy balls? Lmao.

[@RHDYTstudio]

@@Zacrone77yup, this whole video is just messed up by the boss choice. Even the wuwa one they couldve shown the hologram Tempest Mephis

[@kurosakirenji879]

One of the best thing about the scar fight in wuwa is sometimes he parries me, the player.

[@Cozy10101]

Dont think he would be the last one to do so. CN PGR (even global now aday) bosses can parry the player and used player matrix (your own mechanic) against you for years now and i dont see why they wont implemented it more into WuWa aswell.

[@ZalZal15]

It also applied to memphis esp in hologram high diff

[@TuanLe-gl4yt]

@@Cozy10101 in later with hologram boss. if implement so hard people wont play the game :L

[@forhue4920]

​​@@ZalZal15 how would u know if an enemy parries u?

[@aoikazuma3781]

@@forhue4920 your character will get staggered for a bit

[@Zilllow]

WuWa bosses have personalities and style they make combat experience 100x better. The adrenaline u get to avoid getting hit by these bosses is making the game experience so amazing. You feel like its not just a stage that youll just surpass, what you actually feels like in the game is that guy is ready to whoop your ass so I gotta get ready. It gets me to flow state 🐦‍🔥

[@blueberry7478]

But he chooses the easiest one 😭

[@Ansxl]

Once you've mastered/get used to PGR's perfect parry/dodge WuWa won't be that hard (though it wasn't that hard to begin with unless your fps is low)

[@Zilllow]

@@Ansxl it's not about the difficulty but the fun engagement when you play it

[@Ansxl]

@@Zilllow Oh mb, I misunderstood it, sorry bout that, but yea, that feeling when you could dodge or parry something perfectly is 🔥🔥🔥

[@suu6652]

The combat of every game its good... i just cant feel the same after beating a boss every time with less effort just to farm his ass... idk what kind of difficulty ppl think these games has but for me, outside the tower in WuWa everything its just easy... its same with every gacha game i'm playing... its everything easy except for 1 or 2 modes... PGR for me is the Babel Tower WuWa is the tower aswell Genshin impact i didn't find any hard there (i'm not playing anymore too) ZZZ i'm still low lvl so i don't want to talk about this game

[@Draygoon3l]

1. PGR 2. Wuthering Waves 3. ZZZ 4. Pou 5. Flappy bird 6. Genshin

[@tsinosraredrum]

nothing true more than this

[@megatbasyarullah4859]

Ahh pou how nostalgic

[@Amoryxch]

Valid 😂

[@Daddy_Of_soraML]

What's pou​@@megatbasyarullah4859

[@BrandedBreacher]

Combat wise? Tru Overall? PGR is lower than ZZZ.

[@ZETxZ4]

It makes me really happy to see everyone supporting PGR. While some people may find PGR combat to be too crazy, one thing you can't deny is that it DOESN'T look like a mobile game at all, it's just too insane compared to literally any other one out there and it's not even close. Everytime I see someone doing a PGR reaction their jaw just drops lol.

[@Odzwinter]

I love crazy combat game.

[@ciphe5391]

As a pgr enthusiast since it's very beginning. I can say that dear god are some of the fights hard AF, the one baby thing for the first fight (I play Chinese so got no idea wt it's called in eng) is actually hard AF if you ignore the whole parrying mechanic. Also the characters in pgr are by far the most complicated of any game I've played period. I have alpha upgraded with the new skills but I've never properly learned how to use her new kit at all lol

[@ZETxZ4]

​@@ciphe5391 PGR combat is a thing of a beauty if you don't play the meta strat, there's a reason why so many Rexlent and Blanc videos are so good, simply because you have the option to not spam it and just play for style. I hate when people say PGR is braindead gameplay, it sure has a part of it that it is(War Zone, PPC,Norman...), but you can also just play however you want and if you don't like the braindead gameplay, just focus more on playing Bosses on Celica Class. They truly need to fully permanently implement that style gamemode that they were trying it out a few patches ago, I guess they will do it so when DMC collab happens.

[@chaska8144]

easy

[@LostSerenity]

the showcase for wuwa should have shown crownless hologram. scar is just a meh to fight.

[@LemonPop93]

scar nightmare mode weekly boss would've also been better. I fought him and ma gawd was that something (imo lol)

[@p4ntom87]

@@LemonPop93 scar gets crazier in the final floor of illusive realm

[@yehua3412]

​@@p4ntom87 even my lv.3 turtle shield broke in 2 hits lmao.

[@drekhunter]

That would've been overkill.

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

I think it's fair, because PGR only used Hetero mother and Lamia for their boss fights.

[@FireBlueZ]

Should've replace ZZZ with HI3rd as it is the direct competitor to PGR right from the start. But let's all be real. PGR is peak combat in gacha games in general.

[@megatbasyarullah4859]

Yeah but hi3 ain't as popular or hype as zzz. I just see it as a waifu simulator lol

[@FireBlueZ]

@@megatbasyarullah4859 Well yeah, but ZZZ is just a completly different game. It didn't feel like Hi3rd nor PGR, or even any other gacha game that exist rn. So far the combat style is still new and will probably get a lot better someday.

[@megatbasyarullah4859]

@@FireBlueZ idk i don't think its anything new. Rather than new its more like a modification to an existing system. The switching characters is basically a flashy qte with animations and crazy camera work. Parrying is still parrying just done by switching characters instead of the character used on field. Nothing new for me

[@yehua3412]

​@@FireBlueZ it's aether gazer but reskin

[@FireBlueZ]

@@yehua3412 Isn't Aether Gazer just one man army with 2 other character only work as support?

[@GreyEnfield_CRYSTAL]

Bro using Gen1 construct for PGR, while we are getting Gen3 construct on the next CN patch

[@thegamiac9539]

Gen 1 has much better gameplay that is not ult spam

[@luxifer185]

would be too easy to clear, even though it's gen 1 Alpha, they still gave her an upgrade and she can still do dope shit like that

[@muhammadsulaiman5471]

​@@thegamiac9539gen 2 characters are ult spam because meta made them that way If you play close attention to the story locked characters they don't ult spam

[@FLASHY_WOLF]

​​​@@muhammadsulaiman5471 The new fire, lightning Lucia? She have 3 ult animations😂

[@blueberry7478]

Lucia 🔥⚡️ is coming!!! 😃😃😃😃

[@AzA609]

Quitting Genshin for WuWa is like moving on from a toxic ex to a perfect marriage.

[@haku1145]

Except that the families of both the ex and the new partner are both insufferable. (aka, the loud minorities of Genshin and WuWa fandoms who only spread toxicity and fight over stupid sh*t)

[@omeganoelf.6173]

You are not obligted to listen to them though. You can 100% play the game without interacting with the toxic minority​@@haku1145

[@lunosse9886]

@@haku1145WuWa players have the right to sht upon Genshin because most WuWa players are ex genshin players who saw how mihoyo treated their playerbase. It’s as if players will stay with a company if it treats then right idk. Mint picking will be daily for genshin players though

[@haku1145]

@@lunosse9886 You literally just proved my point 🤦‍♂️ If you think that people enjoying a game you don't like gives you the right to treat them like sh*t, then you need to get off the internet and do some serious self-reflection, buddy. If you must insult something, then insult the game. Not the player.

[@josephwong5859]

@@haku1145 right? Haha I agree with you. These people can’t let go of Genshin because there were once the toxic community of Genshin now all go Wuwa and start their stupid agenda again. Like if I enjoy my game I am playing I don’t need to compare. I know my game flaws and pros but I still play it. I won’t go stupidly defend and cal other out for playing it or not playing it. It’s what both toxic community now is doing haha.

[@417Lmao]

Thank you for using CA in this video, because gen 2 character is just too overkill

[@GreyEnfield_CRYSTAL]

Can't wait for gen3 😂😂😂😂

[@sium4364]

Exactly lol, it would have been extremely unfair

[@SriAnrod]

@@GreyEnfield_CRYSTAL gen 3 has come first character is lucia they added air combat too.

[@whetfishfin177]

​@@SriAnrodLamia already have air combat before Lucia

[@GreyEnfield_CRYSTAL]

@@whetfishfin177 lamia flooding the stage and swimming in it, this guy "she flies" 😆 lol

[@megatbasyarullah4859]

You know the toxicity is high when a disclaimer needs to be put😂

[@Khn_2102]

Literal Coughing Babies vs Hydrogen Bombs

[@YOUHUOUGGHHH]

Yup those toxic kids or mentally ill adults ftom the hoyo fandom needs disclaimer before they go berserk😂

[@k-BlazeWW30]

​@@Khn_2102😂 hahaha iagree 😂 Baby combats from Homieverse Nerd vs Kuro games of Chads

[@KnK-loooinm]

​​@@k-BlazeWW30 really you guys are so racist you are hate genshin more than anything and i don't know why and does when something is bad does need to be hated , and like elden ring does has hack and slash combat no and does elden ring need to be hated because of its slow combat , every game has its own combat don't be racist bro and i think you are all have genshinphobia

[@HowAreYou2]

​@@KnK-loooinmracists? this is game bro it wasn't that deep

[@KniveMikoto]

Some people get off knowing they play the "superior" game than the other. I respect gigachads who stay on their lane and simply enjoying their game.

[@animebloodkurenai1997]

Exactly lol

[@TethoSama]

I enjoy all games, enjoy them all and share the fun with everyone. No need to dirty it with ugly feelings.

[@AsterWi]

at the end of the day theyre all gacha games or something like that

[@patata4799]

As a genshin player I love Wuwa

[@MarionFR]

Gigachads are those who understand that developing yourself and rising your standards is more valuable than stopping to enjoy whatever mediocricity. Like those crazy Jenshin stans who refuse to see reality and trying to gaslight others cause they are 'simply enjoying their game'. Get it right.

[@eijey9803]

I remember Bianca abystigma Vs Red mist Crimson Abyss(Babel alpha). Ffs that fight for me is too satisfying man, my andrenaline was spiking from excitement. Babel alpha is imo a tribute to alpha after she got kicked out of the meta. PGR imo is way ahead of its competitor in terms of combat even till now. Their creativity with buttons, character combat mechanics is way better even if there's new mobile games are poppin out of nowhere.

[@mao38]

Did somebody say red mist...

[@pretz313]

Fr they need to add that alpha in celica class

[@chuunibyou759]

Did you just say *RED MIST?*

[@eijey9803]

@@pretz313 rex said enjoy it cuz its never coming back, he damn right 😢

[@ranninotfromeldenring2832]

IS THAT THE RED MIST

[@Ilovereed]

This is not even overkill anymore, it's genocide

[@Stormvan-f8w]

Oy vey

[@triheriyanto3122]

Free🇵🇸

[@imcat1236]

even wuwa from Kuro cant compare to PGR 🤣🤣🤣

[@Firstname-b9j]

@@imcat1236 and they're both by the same company 👍

[@jwkwkwkwmenenen70]

based reed pf

[@6ry6hr]

PGR and WuWa gave me chills. Both are crazy good to watch. The WuWa clip felt like a anime. Was too clean 🔥

[@davidfrost5995]

@@6ry6hr id recommend watching more pgr clips id recommend rexlents no hit boss fights with crimson weave, absolute cinema

[@heheboi9435]

I'm a WuWa player and literally only playing ZZZ for fun after stressful hologram bosses. (I have nothing to do in WuWa until mommy Changli banner is dropped)

[@VanceWeebin]

Same. I can find the enjoyment in ZZZ while I wait for Changli and grind echos

[@sanholo5153]

yup, chilling on zzz after beating holos. As wuwa glazer, zzz is kinda fun and def less stressfull than wuwa. With that said.. mommy comming home next week.

[@yeqiu5235]

Should've used Bambinata, her moveset is gorgeous and the puppet on string design is amazing. Watching her fight is like watching a dance, it's just nice to look at. Bambinata is not littered with so many special effects like gen 2 character, but also not very basic like character from the launch, she just have enough special effects to make you appreciate what's going on. Going to be honest, A rank characters in PGR have been the most fun I've had.

[@shinsekai101]

One character i really wish to see in wuwa is bambinata. I started PGR when bambi was festured. Immediately main her until now. Spent all resources to SSS3 her lol. Even weapon too

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

All A characters starting from Haicma all have incredibly slick moves

[@jpcraddle]

You can really spot a SKILL ISSUE player if they have having hard time to see the gameplay of PGR and thinking its a SPAM button fest game. try spamming fighting trailblazer at least. imma bet they wont last longer 🤣

[@CoFF3e_Man]

heck! my brother got bodied by Roland because he was button mashing way too much lol

[@zamirroa]

Roland bodied me when I was new. Then I new I had to be careful as the same way I play dark souls

[@TethoSama]

@@zamirroa Him and that Rapier dude bodied me when I was new and I still get bodied by them when I get too lazy or overconfident. Just like what that line in Darkest Dungeon says "Overconfidence is an insidious poison" or something.

[@TheOshinoMeme]

Hyperreal gameplay is not there... The author have shown tremendous mercy !

[@revoir139]

Not to mention crimson weave, capriccio, scire, echo, lamia and epitaph. Also future character Luna:Oblivion, Lucia:Pyroath, Nanami:Startrail and Ishmael.

[@Steven-bf8gw]

I play both, but i thing not even wuwa can surpass pgr right now, maybe next years

[@Lesturn]

Both Wuwa and PGR are made by the same developers (Kuro Games), Wuwa is still relatively new, but it’ll catch up eventually

[@dedcet634]

well they nerfed ww boss like parry them makes them knocked unlike pgr,so even casual can beat the game

[@megatbasyarullah4859]

Kuro made wuwa to cater more for casuals. But who knows. Its like pgr gen 1 characters and old bosses. They were also not that hard back then

[@htet2002linn]

Well wuwa is supposed to be casual open world game. Who knows kuro will make it follow pgr path.

[@CoFF3e_Man]

@@megatbasyarullah4859 Funny to think we were having a hard time during Aife's memory rescue lol

[@ardee9337]

There's a difference between all style, less substance and style and substance perfectly balanced and watching this video it's very clear which is which.

[@thisjizz8895]

That's so humble. Imagine if it was Primal Projection for PGR boss showcase

[@KuroXHoyo]

Tbh all games combat (ACCORDING TO HOW THEY LOOK) is just awesome

[@KnK-loooinm]

That the comment i was waiting for you are the one who is accurate bro and some of the rest are so brainrock

[@KnK-loooinm]

@gnobs-c8f what are u shitting about , i was looking for goods and positive comments and then i see this and i like it so what wrong with you And secondly does jesus died for language or for religion 😂

[@Brother_Zeke]

i remember when hoyo fans on twitter and subr used to talk shit about WuWa and PGR's combat being 'too teleporty' and QTE reliant then play zenless zone zero like 🤦

[@Shieruzu]

Ofc, its twitter. Believe it or not, theres also a handful of toxic kuro games fans in twitter. Also PGR vs ZZZ is not really a good comparison as its always been PGR vs HI3 as a close rivalry

[@dekirianto5853]

Everything in twit is weird you know

[@shonehellsing784]

ZZZ isn't even that teleporty like those 2

[@Shieruzu]

@gnobs-c8f w h a t

[@Aiva765]

Wuwa lack enemies like hive mother that can do consecutive parry, it will be awesome to see one in wuwa later

[@Kurokawa_Mitsuki]

There's two boss which is Thundering Mephis but only on higher stages of Hologram where you can parry the clone and the main one and Crownless which is crazy at Winged form. Maybe 2.0 will introduce something like it that's not Hologram only. We still only have a few characters that can easily parry continuously.

[@-IGRIS-]

​@@Kurokawa_Mitsuki there's also mighty lighcruser the level 120 Overworld boss

[@Kurokawa_Mitsuki]

@@-IGRIS- oh yeah I forgot about that. Heck that boss made me sweat for 50mins since Jinhsi is my only lvl 80 while the other characters are underleveled. It's parry is so random for me sometimes I miss one and one character dies.

[@zealgaming8161]

Hologram Crownless and Mephis will go ham on your at times having you dodge 5+ times in a short window.

[@hikarii53]

Doesn't Crownless have one sequence where all the moves are parryable? I'm not sure though

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

Using PGR's ost on Wuwa's footage makes me sad Vanguard hasn't made any Wuwa's ost yet

[@HazardTone]

They have it named Flow

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

​​@@HazardToneAnd it didn't make it in game, Wuwa Deserves more songs

[@TethoSama]

@@takebacktheholyland9306 They are now gonna be the Director now from what I've heard so ye.

[@sleipnir_8364]

The thing about PGR's bosses having quite a lot of pauses is that they give you time to "play" your character optimally. PGR's skillsets have like insane synergies or "Forte Circuits" that the minigame is quite different for each.

[@kuratse205]

Genshin boss fights looks and plays like a raid boss fight that you'd see in WoW or other MMOs, PGR boss fights look and plays like DMC bosses, and wuwa is a kind of inbetween where it is somewhere between a raid boss and an action game boss. ZZZ is just... a hp sponge. Genshin would be really good if they actually tried to make the boss fights be played with other people similar to WoW raids, where you actually have to work together to beat them. And then just do what WoW does and give a chance at special equipment to drop once in a while. Mihoyo games have their bosses feel very rigid and unresponsive just like raid bosses. But they dont allow raid parties and actual teamwork to make the gameplay interesting enough.

[@MrWilliGaming]

no that wouldn't work for two reasons. reason one their netcode is hot garbage. reason two genshin characters tend to be extremely shallow on their own

[@KnK-loooinm]

Yeah bro i like what you said but for example genshin cant do that because this style of combat , is become genshin style which is slow paced and i hope some people know that because every game has its own combat but its pity that some people don't know that 😓

[@bimoprakoso2820]

Bro, Genshin is more HP Sponge than ZZZ at least when I see it 😂

[@kuratse205]

@@bimoprakoso2820 yeah but I dropped genshin 2+ years ago already

[@bittersuet]

that ZZZ boss does feel like an HP sponge, but it's an unoptimized team with probably 0 or bad equipment and bad gameplay in a test version of the game.

[@mikhayel3105]

Thanks for this video, I no longer have any FOMO because I am already playing the best game (WuWa). If I was someone who never played genshin I would say it looks the most polished of all but having wasted 3 years on rage inducing fights (because of how badly they are designed) I no longer have that delusion. Wuthering Waves is basically anime style Elden Ring with beautiful open world, engaging gameplay and amazing character designs, I don’t think any game currently in market can peak that experience for me that I am getting in WuWa.

[@sensha5470]

The key difference here isn't actually difficulty. Wuwa bosses have pretty easy attacks to dodge, since you're expected to go hitless. The thing that makes them feel so intensive, is that they're almost always doing *something*. Periods where they stand still are brief. They size you up for a second or two at a time then go back to throwing attack patterns at you. Every other game here, EVEN PGR, the bosses have times placed into their kits for you to slap them with a full combo. For wuwa you have to earn those (and they aren't actually all that long either)

[@toufiq309]

one best thing about Wuwa is that it feels like you are actually fighting bosses instead of just a training dummy with alot of hp.

[@KelvJason]

If PGR and wuwa are in the conversation you can't compete. They have the best combat in Gacha games.

[@mohmedabdo4681]

I found someone who summarized the GI combat well. It's basically less about your skill with a character and more about your team synergy and rotation

[@Appl3-1948]

Why was the gameplay for Pgr such an old fight? I mean it still looks amazing

[@OnlyFun-xd5tl]

Bro didn't use CW Alpha for footage. Bro was being kind ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️🙏🏻

[@solonight61]

she didnt use lucia pyroath what a kind man he is

[@unloyal4847]

2 Has actual combat mechanics while the other 2 has HP/DMG increase as artificial difficulty, lmao.

[@matthewalexanderpugar3719]

More like stylish dealer amd damage dealer the way to represent the strongest

[@TheBoltMaster456]

Basically one is DMC and the other is....Yeah actually no actual proper game can be compared to Genshin in terms of bosses, Genshin bosses are just that bad LMAO!

[@ayon3540]

Pgr would be one of the big three if they had budget for advertising

[@StrongestGrade1Fixer]

ON GOD

[@StrongestGrade1Fixer]

ig pgr stays a hidden gem til they rack in that wuwa money

[@zamirroa]

Pgr needs cinematics and voice acting like ZZZ. The game is a gem in combat and very good in story

[@hikarii53]

​@@zamirroa Unfortunately I don't think voice acting would work in a novel like story because of how long they can be. BUT I think they have A LOT to do in making the novel like story become more enjoyable that what it is currently. Right now, unless you can very well absorb the style of narrative writing of PGR and can read long ass stories, it's gonna be hard for you to enjoy PGR story.

[@zamirroa]

@@hikarii53 i mean voice acting with actual scenes and not novel format

[@qeinz]

for Genshin at first, it was fun to learn about elemental reactions and experiments on them. but it's getting tiring at the end game. Wuwa combat is challenging. the bosses' movements are also fun to learn, the perfect dodge and parry is satisfying and rewarding after you learn about the bosses. especially in hologram bosses, they can kill you in 1 hit. it's not really casual player friendly though. I haven't played PGR that much and never touched ZZZ too.

[@pandalin4111]

what i learned from this video is that scara phase 1 actually had some mechanic to do that i never saw before cause i just run up and bitch slap him into phase 2

[@shikanokonokonokonokoshitantan]

u can even kill him by using those flying cabbage without u doing anything tho, which is funny

[@davidfrost5995]

I just noticed that the wanderer boss from genshin is a remake of a boss from hi3rd, ngl hi3rd did it way better

[@eebop.]

Oh are you talking about wotan?

[@davidfrost5995]

@@eebop. Nah I'm talking about the clock boss

[@vyamayuri]

​@@davidfrost5995Not that clockwork mecha 💀

[@nanashii_kaiserrin]

​@@davidfrost5995 im having early elysian realm ptsd's

[@davidfrost5995]

@@nanashii_kaiserrin fr I was stuck doing the easiest difficulty for a while till he left

[@ahmeduouo4103]

I don't mean any insult or anything . but wtf why the boss in ZZZ just stood there for 20 sec Just taking dmg 2:17 after the first attack

[@Amoryxch]

You can just spam and win in zzz for now.

[@dairenchannel6172]

Their interval of attacking are way tooo slow indeed

[@FateShadow643]

They are using electric characters that applies the effect shock to the enemy. Shock cancel the enemy’s attack and if it’s a machine type then it will get stunned for a brief moment.

[@ngocdangduc3772]

​@@FateShadow643 I didnt know the maschine part tks bro

[@dekirianto5853]

Perfect dodge and shocked that's why

[@RazanDarisAM]

i like how you used “Bury The Light” song for Punishing Gray Raven background music 😂😂 it just fits so well!

[@Sk_Senen]

Ok PGR and WUWA are just peak.. PGR has brutal and visually amazing fights WUWA has very clean and breath taking moves.. literally my dream game

[@monikaneechan5375]

I still can't believe that genshin most impressive boss fight is a Genesis 2.0 from FFVII CC

[@drekhunter]

Impressive as in? Diffuculty peaked with the Raiden boss fight (not a high peak but meh). The thing is that Genshin weeklies are extremely polarized, Stormterror is a joke, Andrius has too little HP to even show his whole kit, Childe got nerfed because the babies cried, Azdaha is just a high damage shield check, Signora is just visually impressive but the fight is waiting twice for two DPS windows and DoT, Raiden is the only good fight, Scara is waiting for two DPS windows again, The guardian of Apep is DPS window followed by bad monolith defense followed by DPS window with a instakill mixed in, The Narwhal has some impresive music but that's about it, the whole fight is just waiting for that thing to do something and Finally Arlecchino that has like 5 mechanics that in the end don't matter because you can deal more DPS by ignoring them. Being honest if I wanted to brag about a Genshin fight I'd pick Raiden but it would be kind of fake advertisement since it's the only one that barely pads the timer (but still does it).

[@a4arick106]

Genshin's good boss fight is only Raiden Shogun, and not in her Shokukami form

[@monikaneechan5375]

@@drekhunter i meant it as a sarcasm, we all know that the genesis fight is full of BS mechanics.

[@TheBoltMaster456]

@@a4arick106 Childe was good before the nerf, now he's good but way too easy.

[@LAIN_BALAD_AING]

Mihoyo : here will you havo to live it 😁 Kuro games : just activate your fighter sense 🗿

[@RandomUsername101s]

PGR effects are on top, way too good that the one problem is you can't see shit during combat

[@Cozy10101]

Thats the reason i dont use bloom when i do end game content too, cant see shit with particle and glow effect every where xD

[@WilliamMiao-of9sw]

Turning down bloom would help a lot

[@hobbes4011]

This is a nice side by side of these games, it's kinda neat to see the direct comparison. And while I definitely prefer WuWa the most, I feel like the boss choice for Genshin could have been better. There has to be a better example of a Genshin boss fight than Scara; a fight you can win pretty much without attacking (the little floaty turret can do all the work).

[@drekhunter]

You're describing Raiden, that's the only fight that doesn't revolve around waiting for something to win and the mechanics are actually engaging being honest that would be the worst choice for Genshin because it the only one that does that, all the rest of them are like Scara, wait for X or the mechanics don't matter at all.

[@mostpolitebot1464]

correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Alpha CA the very first limited character of PGR? her animations looks sick and still holds up to this date haha I also believe that urban legend that she has 40+ sheathing animation

[@muhammadsulaiman5471]

And guess what her sheathing animations also has lore behind them

[@Zero-x7v5f]

and CA frame sfx still the crunchy one is so satisfying to hear

[@keizuna1097]

Salute to those play Alpha with style parry 👍 i cant done that play style easily Imo PGR n Wuwa still best combat...ZZZ probably below both of those but where Hi3rd...i wish i wanna see it too...n finally although genshin not have good combat experience...the thing with ost kinda memoriable but again ost is based on own opinion...so yeah overall pgr has good ost compare to wuwa...n genshin even i nver played but seeing those boss ost...i think that pretty good ost

[@Amoryxch]

No doubt

[@speedwagon914]

As much as i like the design of that boss in zzz There's absolutely no movement whatsoever and it doesn't feel like a fight but more like how fast can you kill it

[@WanshiLucidDreamer]

Bro tried to Nerf PGR so hard 😂

[@rebraen1]

just discovering this. And you had vergil theme song. Ok now I have to play PGR

[@sirmeowmeow7319]

tbh. i like zzz as a whole with the exception of its combat. if only we can put pgr combat into zzz then it would be perfect

[@drekhunter]

I'm sure Hoyo could release an Anime gacha based Need for Speed, make the worst driving simulator in human history and it would still sell like crazy. Hoyo is becoming Apple.

[@a4arick106]

you telling me you also liked the TV Section? because personally speaking that section is Hoyo's worst mistake in their game design

[@jabzkeepit3519]

@@a4arick106Right? The TV section is also aesthetically depressing… dark, gloomy and hard to see. It looks more depressing than the color palettes of WUWA CBT1.

[@Hyvexx]

@@drekhunterYou mean like the MCU. They’re at the phase where they haven’t overstayed their welcome yet. But if they keep pumping out games, eventually the fatigue will kick in.

[@reko8324]

And then to some idiots to say PGR copied lmao

[@Dokkae2bi]

Really had to nerf pgr to make it a fair competition That genshin fight was like playing the rejected little brother of a crash bandicoot boss fight aint no one gonna be calling this complex combat man

[@goodbro2046]

Genshin never had complex combat. But at least Genshin got the best looking bosses, with the coolest theme songs.

[@njkwon7378]

​@@goodbro2046 bro havent heard any pgr boss song, I mean raiden ost is good but it can't top narwhal or hikari

[@goodbro2046]

@njkwon7378 I looked both up, they are good but can't top Childes or La Signoras ost.

[@njkwon7378]

@@goodbro2046 nah, but I respect it since it's ur opinion tho I mean every person has their own personal taste... also pgr ost pumps me up more because their music are more on edm trance while on the other hand genshin is more on orchestra..

[@njkwon7378]

@@goodbro2046 also pgr boss are also cool looking try watching rexlent lee vs primal projection

[@Emytrix]

6:46 what is happening lol

[@ligmasphere901]

wtf did I do with 2 years of my life playing genshin

[@dimasanggayuda3966]

It's illegal to exclude HI 3rd in the list

[@Amoryxch]

This video is meant for the new Kuro games vs Hoyo Games category. As hoyo advertised their zzz as combat focused game and Genshin is a open world rpg so both games meet their expectations the best but yeah hi3 would be good, maybe a new video for it.

[@hiteshmaurya9889]

use Apho footage too for honkai.

[@dj.deeznuttz7659]

That game is trash that’s why

[@kyarumomochi5146]

HI3 sucks ass rn.

[@dj.deeznuttz7659]

@@kyarumomochi5146 big facts reason why I stopped playing it .

[@drekhunter]

"Stand still" says the girl in ZZZ The robot attacked 6 times in almost 2 mins... The PGR enemy first fight took 45 seconds to do the same amount and it was with the intro cutscene and the stun being in there and around 30 seconds for Scar... Hell even Genshin took 1 minute for Scara to serve 6 really telegraphed slow attacks with a stun in the middle that ate like 10 seconds. Let that sink in, the enemy is somehow more passive than Genshin third slowest weekly. Well I guess ZZZ got a training dummy before Genshin.

[@bojo7667]

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[@sirmeowmeow7319]

​@@bojo7667 artificially debuffing ur characters lol. all of them are 1 hit away from dying

[@leo-um3pj]

honestly i feel like genshin is just a dps check

[@drekhunter]

@@leo-um3pj Yep, it is, there were a couple of times it wasn't but long gone are those days.

[@joestylechannel4939]

​@@drekhunter have you checked out ZZZ boss's fight 'Dead End Butcher'? Every boss have different combat I guess.

[@babadookdi4921]

Kinda surprised to not see Aether gazer in these, but regardless PGR and WuWa are my favs.

[@zamirroa]

It guess the video would be too long

[@fernandomota1448]

From its launch until today, PGR still has the best combat system of all mobile games, whether gacha or not.

[@michaelcross9720]

Hardest boss in each game (for me): PGR: Iron Maiden Phantom WuWa: Hologram Crownless Genshin: Arlecchino ZZZ: *THAT F- ING UNITY CRASH NOTICE*

[@endarion88172]

you can solo facetank arlecchino with kokomi lol

[@meimeiQAQ.3668]

no way you struggle to that-

[@bimoprakoso2820]

Bro, the hardest boss is the Whale 😂 I mean, before an actual fight, I got sleepy of that fucking shit 😂

[@jesterscreamtherapy]

Man that was not a good example of ZZZ

[@bi7630]

The best imo is pgr and wuwa. Kuro knows their combat

[@CheztaAhmad]

that PGR showcase is a bit off. If you want to pick those 2 bosses, maybe show it when they hit their special moveset(?). Lamia is a long drawn-out fight, but the best part is after she stands on top of the tower and the battlefield becomes underwater. Hive best moments are, i think, parrying (shown here) and the acid rain. well those are my thoughts. Its sad that the chosen boss was not the twins or lilith.

[@sonlo6188]

I don't have any thought like :"WTF IS THAT DMG AND SPD DUDE ?" even in hi3 and 3 game above beside pgr so yeah, pgr win this

[@trantuean1916]

If i remember correctly there's only several char in pgr actually have parry mechanism included alpha.

[@Scrat4357]

All characters in PGR can parry

[@meimeiQAQ.3668]

opposite actually, it depends on the bosses some bosses has parries some don't but majority of the new bosses in game has parries

[@deklineansah]

I’ve never played a mobile game that has the same action animations as PGR….it’ll forever stay on top

[@GabrielRodriguez-tg3fy]

Only missed Honkai Impact 3rd, since it has the same combat style

[@Goodowski]

PGR will still remain the best of the all

[@franciscarranza4670]

I really like the stagger mechanic of wuwa, like you need to work for that with parries and counter attacks

[@azalkia]

for my opinion from best to worst is 1.pgr 2.wuwa 3.gi 4.zzz

[@SmolPetals]

This is a good example showing good combat is not just about how good the character designs (appearance and moveset) are or how hard the game is, but enemy and boss design are also a great part of it.

[@lilblkrose]

jfc ZZZ hurting my eyes how bright and flashing it was going so often. I didn't have the maid, but I swear the game is not this bright.

[@Mizu.405]

PGR and WUWA have complex mechanics and system that new players might find it hard. While Genshin has a balanced gameplay and environment. So Genshin is an overall friendly game with open-world stunning graphics.

[@KurayamiHUH]

Ahm Skill Issue

[@Scatterblades]

for zzz. try the twin dancer. it has a very good fighting speed. tho like every enemies when stunned. they stay still.

[@Scatterblades]

@@Marc-rw3dd dunno what narrative are you talking about

[@Marc-rw3dd]

@@Scatterblades wrong comment, my b

[@SmashTheAdam]

Yeah, and should have honestly used attack or stun characters instead of focusing on Rina and Soukaku which are support characters that aren't supposed to take much field time (both of them just need to use their ex skills and swap to the next character), I don't think ZZZ is the pinnacle of action gameplay, but I really think this video didn't do it justice with how they showcased it and choosing the slowest boss in the game

[@thatskyshu]

zzz parry system feels so fun!! i also wanna play pgr but i've already got wuwa, genshim, star rail, zzz on my potato laptop !! IT CANNOT HANDLE MORE sadly...

[@Andrenaline24]

zzz thật là hoài niệm tôi cứ ngỡ là game trên Playstation ở những năm 2000

[@thisjizz8895]

Scar's 2nd phase looks straight out from a soulsgame lol

[@Turbulentwaves]

Tbh you should have picked the more recent characters for PGR, considering that these games you are comparing it with are pretty new, except GI. Alpha CA is like 3 yrs old lol

[@HazardTone]

Nah Crimson Abyss is the okay other unit will be overkill

[@Amoryxch]

It won't be fair because other units are way too good, i wanted to make an equal standing

[@SHION0311]

LoL 😂​@@Amoryxch

[@Averageguy1221]

Bro Gen 2 or Even The new Lucia Oathblaze would be Overkill comparison to other games 💀

[@zani赞妮]

if you want to compare other games, compare the best of the best, not in equal​@@Amoryxch

[@regulardude1579]

For genshin, Arlecchino weekly boss would be a better comparison with an action oriented team comp such as Alhaitham spread or even Itto full geo. OP here used a bloom team on a boss not good for close encounters. Genshin's boss mechanics vary a lot from each other with gimmicks. Offering unique experiences each.

[@izeik]

hoyofrogs vs korushills is literally piss vs poop battle ICANT

[@tobubiify]

All i want is ZZZ presentation and PGR bossfights

[@Flam3blast]

I might even try PGR because of this , cuz i see way smoother animations , unlike the route Wuwa is going , sorry but all featured characters are clusterfucks of effects .

[@invarkul7831]

ZZZ: they move once in 2 hours and it tickles Genshin: they move once in 1 hour and it hurts but you have monstrous amount of healing\shields Wuwa: they move quite a bit and it HURTS Wuwa holograms: DMC boss but they one shot you

[@risingstar9903]

Kind of feel bad for Genshin to be honest, it has so much potential. The boss designs, the boss theme music, which hoyo dominate every time, to even its attack animation are beautiful. All of that just for the boss to barely move around, predictable attacks and just overall way too easy to kill. Like we’re fighting something that has the power almost equivalent to a god.

[@KnK-loooinm]

Yeah bro but people seems forgot fast because they are so hyped for wuwa , they forgot genshin give so much attention to its characters design music and everything but in style of slow paced so nothing wrong with that , so can anyone criticising elden ring with their slow paced combat no but they give attention for their game so no hate guys

[@thomaskennedy5728]

The game is for casuals,that's the only reason because of big casual market. Although it lacks only in combat and movement. Character design is more diverse and music is better,the world is more beautiful. The story and lore is also top tier.

[@zangzang99]

GI : Chemical aura shit PGR: Flashy lightning combo wombo ZZZ: Not too flashy combo wombo Wuwa: Fookin Wuxia aura shit WUWA win.

[@namishun1558]

Did you specifically choose the worst boss in ZZZ?

[@di-gun5791]

lol for real, guy just wanna hate. should've showcased one of the hz elite dual fight, that actually represents the combat. or the twin ballerina at least.

[@SmashTheAdam]

And using supports too

[@Penguinable_]

It's fair since he used beta footage for wuwa and a 2 years old boss for Pgr

[@Zynqr1]

Pgr and wuwa having no auto battle is the best

[@HazardTone]

Are you the owner of wuthering waves cafe right? In FB

[@Amoryxch]

@@HazardTone yes

[@Kamusari011]

​@@Amoryxchohhh I'm a member too. So it's yours. I'll sub!

[@LostSerenity]

​@@Amoryxchim also a member. try to showcase hologram next time. atleast we can showcase realgameplay of wuwa

[@Firstname-b9j]

Fk, imma sub now

[@frostlunawinterhazel5125]

+1 Sub

[@kuwainani1534]

I think the best comparison should be the hardest boss and the Strongest character in each game to see which is more challenging and no one would have any reasons to complain about handicaps In my opinion.