10 Video Games We All Wanted (But Nobody Bought)

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[@Basicallykhaled]

0:33 Prince Of Persia: The Lost Crown 1:49 Mirrors Edge 2:55 Viewtiful Joe 2 4:02 Onimusha: Dawn Of Dreams 5:03 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 6:18 Max Payne 2: The Fall Of Max Payne 7:24 Chrono Cross 8:31 Lawbreakers 9:34 The Last Guardian 10:40 Shenmue 1 & 2

[@SussySerbo]

thank you for your service 07

[@Basicallykhaled]

@@SussySerbo My pleasure

[@RomnysGonzalez]

Thank you. Saved me a ton of time

[@DMBLaan]

I think the 2 biggest reasons games like these "fail" are 1. They take way too long to come out. Like who today cares about Beyond Good and Evil 2 today in 2024 who didn't already like it when the first game came out in 2003? and 2. The games change so much that they may as well be a new IP. If you played Sand of Time as your first PoP game, are you really wanting a 2d Metriodvania game for the series first new game in over a decade?

[@busterkeaton1041]

True, I wanted a new game in the Sands series, not what we got. The demo was okay, just not anything that I'm excited about.

[@Erawk]

also $70 a pop doesn't help

[@ZlothZloth]

Plus their fans aren't playing after school - they've got to work in time between their jobs and their kids' needs. Wait another 20, though, and you can catch them with empty nests.

[@CityofButterfly]

As a PoP fan AND a Metroidvania enthusiast, I would actually answer yes to #2. My problem is that Ubisoft has fucked up so many times since Sands Of Time that now I have a strict "no Ubisoft games policy" in place. Which is a shame because a Prince of Persia Metroidvania title actually sounded really exciting to me when I first heard about it. But I have my principles.

[@AhkmedTheLiving]

PoP is the PERFECT example. From dark and brooding to... whatever this rainbow unicorn sh!÷ is. Ubi is tone deaf to the existing audience in order to pursue this idea of a "modern audience".

[@guillepankeke2844]

"10 Games We All Wanted But The Publishers Screwed Up" Is what this list is more about...

[@2_572]

Preach brother.

[@Faustustopheles]

exactly

[@damienstandafer1990]

beat me to it lol

[@GearDiego23]

That would be Evolve. The game was amazing but had horrible marketing; they were promoting it as a different kind of game. FCK 2K

[@Faustustopheles]

​@@GearDiego23 I still play it occasionally! it's really cool

[@joels5150]

My hot take is that corporate executives in the gaming industry are quick to write off a game as a failure (and I think it’s totally intentional) if it doesn’t sell say 2 million copies in the first month. They do this so they can use ‘creative’ (re: dishonest) accounting to justify underpaying or (just laying off) the developers, after a product is finished and released, while the execs pocket all the profits. A good game can have steady sales for months, ultimately more than making back its budget, but the powers that be don’t want to talk about that, and the gaming media is too often complicit in going along with this dishonest narrative.

[@Johnny_the_5]

More like on release day

[@annonjames2433]

Facts

[@CameronHuff]

Just like all Hollywood movies never make a profit.

[@FelisImpurrator]

Ice cold take, literally just true

[@Betito1171]

I felt the same way for awhile now. I’m pretty sure everyone in the medium feels like the people in charge care too much about the money and not enough about the art

[@moustachemoe]

The trouble with waiting 10-20 years to make a new game in a series is that your primary fanbase grows up. People who loved your games now have multiple jobs, spouses, pets, kids, and/or a home to care for. They just don’t have the time or money to play new (especially full priced) title. They don’t want to spend two weeks of their kid’s lunch money on a game that they can only play for an hour on Saturday nights after the kids go to bed especially if that’s the only real time they can spend with their spouse. Young players don’t want to play them when they are marketed as sequels to games they’ve never heard of and there are 100 games their favorite streamers and all their friends are already playing. The game studios write them off as failures but it’s the studio’s failure.

[@mikespike2099]

Most gamers are getting wise to the fact that most games get half price sales within 6-12 months. There are now plenty of games to keep playing as we wait for that sweet sale!

[@duhmzdaih]

That and also most games are actually complete one year later or more. Paying to be a tester of an unfinished product isn't fun.

[@RippahRooJizah]

​@@duhmzdaihI do admit, Crash Twinsanity can be pretty fun. If anyone tells me that was a finished product I'll laugh at their face. And in their face.

[@TheKgr320]

Even less than that to be frank. More and more AAA games are slashing their prices after only 6 to 8 weeks, sometimes even less than that. Unless you're a content creator, or someone else who really needs that day one experience, there's really not a point to shelling out day one anymore. Also frankly there's a boat load of games I've been hyped about and then day one it turns out there's a *huge* turn off for me to actually invest in them.

[@RippahRooJizah]

@@TheKgr320 Generally speaking if it's a game I believe in, I'll pay full price for it (and this has very rarely turned out poorly for me). Plus, some games would benefit an earlier purchase. One example, don't be the guy who decides to wait a year before buying a fighting game on sale, then going online and getting mad that the people online seem to, oddly enough... know how to play the game. Another example, spoiler risks, because sometimes you have to be extra careful to not get spoiled by a game on accident just looking around on YT. Then there's also the preorder stuff. I know a lot of people say to never preorder, and all I can say is I've seemed to have had far better experiences than most pertaining to preorders.

[@duhmzdaih]

@@RippahRooJizah Well, about the fighting games, you can be the guy that waits a year before buying and then doesn't get mad at something that's easy to expect. Just take your time to learn the game before going online. When it comes to content, most fighting games nowadays are A JOKE in day one in comparison to the classic titles. Besides, characters are nerfed, patched, rebalanced, etc. anyway all the time in online games. About spoilers, I think this only has happened to me once, being spoiled on accident, so it's not a big deal.

[@Afroman_Gaming]

I will give you a hint at to why Viewtiful Joe 2 might have sold abismally. There was a Playstation Underground disc released with a demo of The Getaway as it's primary game of interest. However, among those demos featured was none other than, you guessed it, Viewtiful Joe 2. Now, at the time, I fell victim to a bug on the demo disc that was embedded in the Viewtiful Joe 2 game demos file. What it did was atrocious and it still makes me sick to this day. The bug was that if you played the demo of VJ2, it would delete your ENTIRE memory card(s) save data that was inserted into your PS2. I was notified of this bug after a couple of weeks by playstation via mail at the time. Way after it was too late and i was left wondering what the hell happened. So needless to say, even though it was not VJ2s fault per say, it left a bad taste in my mouth and I'm sure a lot of other people's at the time as well.

[@randyhamm3862]

The Dreamcast was the most underrated ahead of its time console ever created

[@Darkchao_berserko22]

It sadly released abit early which sucks because it did kicked off the 6th gen of video games. Plus they had quite a bit of good exclusives

[@Deviljho5]

Agreed 👍

[@RyzenZegend]

Viewtiful Joe 2 is 10/10 game!

[@maeburekaiser]

I'd actually say it was behind it's time. It wasn't next gen, it was a high quality competitor for the Playstation, but the next year the PS2 released and was so far beyond the Dreamcast it drowned it just with anticipation.

[@SKBoa]

@@maeburekaiser the dreamcast was better at rendering and easier to develop for, it had the better controller (the xbox controller is based on the dreamcast controller btw), the first online features in a console, and a lot more additional hardware than the ps2. The reason it didn't sell as well, was the price, the low commitment from the exc, bad advertisement, and the overall hype around the ps2.

[@tavianfloyd6589]

As someone who completed lost crown and was very impressed, it was definitely overpriced. The metroidvania market just isnt at the point where you can charge $40 or $50 at launch. I waited until i could get the game for around $25 and was happy with the game, but i cant lie, i almost forgot it existed before i saw that sale.

[@darthwiizius]

The only way a dev can get away with charging full price for a 2D metroidvania is if the first word in it's name is "Metroid". Frankly though for barely a few quid a pop I find the Ori games more appealing, that said I'm not big on 2D platformers in general, that was most of what we had in the 8bit era I grew up in so I got it out of my system many moons and cycles ago. I do love the first 2 Metroid Prime games though.

[@braddrcrushalot3785]

Has Square Enix released a game in the past 10 years where sales actually met their expectations?

[@Bman32x]

Kingdom Hearts MIGHT be the closest to that?

[@TinKnight]

Nier: Automata sold so strongly that Square Enix attempted creating a full franchise out of Nier. Reincarnation & Replicant have done reasonably well, even though their reviews are less stellar.

[@jaymaxwell8645]

FF14 makes a huge amount of money for them.

[@playername9391]

FF7 remake. fF15 Kh3. Dq11. So2r. There's alot stop using that lame excuse for FF7 rebirth bombing. Ff isn't just that popular anymore

[@ErgoDog]

FF 15 was actually huuge

[@AaronLevine-t3j]

Interesting enough; Viewtiful Joe has his own anime that was released in 2004 which is around the same time VJ 2 was released. Also, to those interested in playing Chrono Cross; it got rereleased as the Radical Dreamers edition.

[@Thomas-fb5tf]

are there any ways to play viewtiful joe now days? did anyone port it?

[@bjremix456]

​@@Thomas-fb5tf sadly no .just emulation or overpriced copies from the net

[@Pswayze23]

​@@Thomas-fb5tfCapcom likes to rerelease old titles, so I think it'll come vack

[@PLAYER_42069]

A recent game to add to this list is the Dead Space Remake. Everybody was so hyped when it was announced (supposedly), followed every dev blog & stream, community events, etc. But it only sold 2M copies. It was expected to sell 5M. Granted, it wasn't a huge failure due to the smaller budget, but it's a perfect example of how nostalgia has its limits. Not only is the original Dead Space (2008) still playable, but the target audience for the remake has moved on/aged out of gaming. Younger gamers don't care about DS, or other aging IPs, and the lack of sales proved this.

[@gambello1195]

the original is one of ny favourite games ever, i know it inside out. I was hyped for the remake but when I played the demo it felt too different, i.e. the voices, even Isaac had a voice. I just felt I'm better off with the original. I'll give it a chance tho, when it's on sale

[@michaellane5381]

I love the concept of DS, but i had no interest if they weren't remaking the games that really needed it 2&3, a great game remade i only have interest in watching as i can't handle jumpscares well is really no draw at all when it dead ends before making the other titles better.

[@fullmetalsoldier6511]

Well they changed things People didn't want changed soo that's kinda what happens when you change a near perfect game

[@lennywright5655]

@@gambello1195 what kind of sale are you waiting for? Last year during the holidays, I saw Dead Space for $20-$30 at multiple stores.

[@roonkolos]

​@fullmetalsoldier6511 like removing the annoying turret section or making upgrade nodes actually matter and not used for blank spots? If not those, not sure what you mean since it was pretty universally enjoyed across the board

[@Nickc86]

Biggest mistake Prince of Persia made was not putting it on steam

[@dhimmyjazzy696]

FACT

[@ForeverMasterless]

How could you say something so true.

[@Philpot1992]

Yeah same with Alan Wake 2

[@masonrock]

It had to be worth it or they would’ve canceled the one that is coming out on Steam soon. Epic I’m sure paid an arm and a leg for the right.

[@snazzydrew]

I don't buy Ubisoft games at all anymore. That's the only real reason I won't buy prince of Persian despite liking the series.

[@SilverSpectre266]

Outriders is an example of a game that felt like it did everything right, and still came up short. It felt like it had everything, addressed every concern, and answered every community question properly. Numerous Q&As, and they always said the right thing. If people wanted a feature or mechanic, it was probably in the game. Numerous modes and settings to address any gameplay concerns. Yet the game just did not sell well. The shooting and everything was probably a bit mid, or it didnt execute the gameplay loop to peoples satisfaction, or maybe it was too niche for what they were expecting in the mainstream when compared to other shooters. But it felt like everything else they did right, and if you looked at reception up to release, people couldnt wait. Then the game came out and it didnt pan out so well.

[@ztothepunk]

Outriders was definitely underrated and underappreciatedm

[@StoneAgeWarfare]

What really put it in the grave was being only for an otherwise singleplayer/coop game. People lost interest when that got revealed.

[@slime_ism]

Yea like you said the gameplay was mid. Nothing really stood out from any other tps where you slowly strafe around mag dumping.

[@TCPolecat]

Honestly, I have an answer for every one of those games. But the ones that stood out: Chrono Cross: I rented it and frankly hated the changes they made, so I never bought. FF 7 remake: Avoided. I didn't enjoy FF7 to the extent everyone else seemed to, and it felt overhyped to me, so pass. Prince of Persia: I want to get it, but on PC it went exclusive to Epic. Hard pass until it releases elsewhere on PC (Which is my gaming console of choice these days, given up on consoles). Mirror's Edge sequel? Sure, but only if it ditched combat... oh, they doubled down on gun-play? Hard pass.

[@TomTomW90]

FF7 OG is maybe my favourite game. And I've enjoyed Remake and Rebirth for what they are.

[@BK4LF1]

Chroncross also had its twist spoiled in a review

[@antonfowler6582]

One problem with modern gaming is the over saturation of " live service & online team based " shooters the games that sell long term are single player story driven games . Look at skyrim and AC oddessy . Thousands of hours played .

[@ZlothZloth]

Thousands in AC Odessey?? I liked that game a lot, but I don't see how you put more than a couple of hundred in on that one.

[@darthwiizius]

The games industry makes this mistake over and over. If a game goes into overdrive everyone tries to replicate it. Open World, battle royale, and now souls likes. There's no real creativity anymore, up to the 360/PS3 era there was a tonne of experimental stuff coming out constantly but now everything has to fit in whatever games just sold well. Look at HiFi Rush, good innovative game, studio gone. In the past platform owners didn't mind loss leaders because the diversity drives other sales. Now only Nintendo is happy to finance "lesser" titles like the exclusive Platinum games on their system, they don't make any money on them but know that their presence drives wider sales. Take all the niche titles off Switch and do you think they would of sold so many devices, extra controllers etc, insane numbers of MK8, Zelda, Mario etc? I don't think so, I could be wrong but I really believe that it's the software that drives platform sales that then drives more software sales. Not every game needs to take 5+ years to produce running graphics that try to make your hardware catch on fire, that's the mistake the industry is making and it has ruined the PS5 and Series era already despite them both being very capable platforms for the money. BTW I've put about 1300 hours in 100% completing Civ6 at the hardest difficulty on PC, not one single second on multiplayer, not interested.

[@ZlothZloth]

@@darthwiizius No, several companies will, but there are MANY developers out there doing plenty of creative stuff all the time.

[@slime_ism]

Say that to World of Warcraft 😂 live service games literally blow any offline game out of the water in hours played.

[@darthwiizius]

@@ZlothZloth Yeah, devs up to "AA" standard have been superb over the last decade. The up and coming studios have more passion than the established studios.

[@southernpanda33]

I played through FFVII Rebirth 3 times and both Shenmue 1 & 2, as well. I enjoyed them.

[@cubie30dimh]

I didn't even know it was out until this video. Looks like I'm headed to the psn shop.

[@drewtheunspoken3988]

I just started my third playthrough of Rebirth. I just can't get enough of the world and its characters. I'm a little sad we're not getting DLC and have to wait 3-5 years for Part 3.

[@ZlothZloth]

Oh sure. Just keep playing Rebirth over and over, while your PC mas... brothers are stuck out in the cold. I see how it is!! 😉

[@drewtheunspoken3988]

@@ZlothZloth personally, I can't wait for the PC release. Not for me, I prefer consoles, but because I want the sales to go up. I think everyone should be able to play it. Except for maybe the Switch players. I can't imagine how big of a downgrade that would be. And the Series S is why Xbox won't get it either. But I'm hoping all you PC guys make the sales for Rebirth and XVI go through the roof!

[@kevinclapson]

Some of these did it to themselves. PoP dropping as a Metroidvania at full price was a huge gamble, one that doesn't seem to be paying off. Chrono Cross wasn't billed as a Chrono Trigger sequel, in fact the only indication it may be as much was it's name. It also got some flack for how the games titular mechanic (the Chrono Cross) worked and how poorly implemented the mechanic was. FF7 Rebirth got what it deserved. SE dangled people for years with the promise of FF7 remade from the ground up with Advent Children visual assets. What they delivered was a 3rd person hack'n'slash hybrid full of retcons and a ton of filler content. With the added bonus of SE milking this cow for all its worth by breaking the remake into chapters, all full priced titles, and spread out over several years. Even people who liked what they did with FF7R are waiting for the project to be complete before they keep throwing money at it.

[@GoodBoyGoneDad]

Yes I liked FF7 remake yet I have no desire to play crisis core right now. I'll wait til it's on PS+ or Gamepass and maybe play it then.

[@jaymaxwell8645]

5:31 because people didn't want a remake! They wanted a touched up version of the original and SE never really explained that it was a reimagining during the original press rush. SE got what they deserved.

[@moisteunicorn8090]

Max payne was my earliest addiction

[@nathansaillant4703]

Agreed I've played doom quake turok re 1-re3 but max payne was a masterpiece and one of my best childhood experiences

[@alexfelix6699]

My brother and I loved Max Payne 1 and 2... was the first ever nude patch using naked Mona as the main character... game would eventually freeze, but we'll worth it.

[@PennywiseThedancingclown-ws1lh]

Same here

[@maynardperalta3188]

Same. I was addicted to Max Payne like I was addicted to painkillers.

[@pompidoudog]

Mine was heroin

[@rfitzpatrick723]

I guess I’m one of the few who bought prince of Persia lost crown 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@SlimJim58]

That makes 2 of us

[@hiro120]

That makes 3 of us

[@dannymcglynn4702]

4 of us

[@MrTrill1585]

5 of us😂

[@mizga69]

Lost crown is super fun

[@danielronan9822]

I hate everyone who is a ff7 fan and isnt willing to pay full price for Rebirth. The game and developers 100% deserve it.

[@ChaoticHoly]

10: Never heard of it. 9. Didn't want it. 8. Bought it. Whatchu talkin 'bout, Willis? 7. Never heard of it. 6. Why would I buy on PS5 when the previous game had been censored up the wazoo? PC+Mods or GTFO. 5. Didn't want it. 4. Bought it, but it was just too different from CT + that last hour exposition dump made Xenogears disc 2 look interactive. 3. Never heard of it. 2. God-awful controls is not a "stylistic choice." 1. Didn't want it.

[@basilbrush6995]

The last guardian was absolutely amazing and emotional at times. I'm glad I gave it a go in 2018, I was hooked from the start.

[@dpedreno]

The Last Guardian is a brilliant game. It was never gonna be a best seller, but it was a victim of publishers pushing to have big reveals at E3 (and other game shows) regardless of their finished state. Games should not be announced more than 2 years before their release, and even that is a stretch. Too many people live off the hype and not the games.

[@HolyHadou]

Regarding Lost Crown, Ubisoft’s rhetoric about game ownership and the fact they DRM locked a demo from multiple playthrough a soured me from buying any of their games. Rebirth I didn’t due to lacking the funds for a PS5 & the story decisions of Remake just totally killing any sort of anticipation or expectations regarding a decent story. Chrono Cross’ battle system just looked and sounded annoying so I didn’t bother.

[@hosswik]

The Chrono Cross battle system is very WTF at 1st, but after an hour it becomes basically second nature…. The problem there is of course you are having to get annoyed for about an hour before you start having fun 🤕 I still love that game though.

[@HolyHadou]

@@hosswik I have an obsessive need to level all my characters to be the same level. How does the game handle leveling the massive amount of characters that they throw at you?

[@hosswik]

To be honest it’s mixed. The leveling itself is super easy especially in a few spots… the catch comes down to 2 things. 1) You cannot get the full roster of characters in one play through. There is an A and B route in the game that is pure RNG from what I remember,… and there are certain characters that are either or. 2) Some of the characters are really unbalanced compared to others (like in Suikoden) so they can be a pain to level in certain areas.. because they suck (in combat, for some reason with the exception of 3 characters like Mojo most of the really cool characters were the worst in combat.)

[@JohnDaviesisahumanbrowneye]

Mirrors Edge Catalyst isnt a fair entry; fans of the first game wanted a sequel to the story from the first game and to see the aftermath of Mirrors Edge's plot, not a reboot that essentially made you play an alternate universe version of the same game.

[@BramTheDemon]

I can say as someone who didn't particularly like being lied to with the original FF7 REMAKE, I have no intention of buying Rebirth until it comes down in price or there's a big compilation of all "Remake" games.

[@rrudeljr]

If you take more than 4 years between games, then you have lost all the momentum the prior game brought to the table. You almost have to be starting preliminary work on the sequel at release to see if it is going to take off.

[@Qwerty95ish]

Games need to come out with the ability to make your own servers. I honestly don't give games that arnt dong well a chance because if the servers go down I wasted my money.

[@Calladim]

For $130 you can preorder the ability to lease access to possibly play the game!

[@GJPGAMESvideos]

That quick clip of Viewtiful Joe brought back so much memories!

[@jamiekjackson]

Square had a guaranteed way to print money for FF7R. All they had to do was leave the script alone, and only update the graphics/gameplay. It also broke my heart, almost no one knew what chrono cross was.

[@Pulmonox]

Chrono Cross might be a great game, but there will always be a stigma in my heart for it because it completely erased everything you worked for in Chrono Trigger on account of the game not initially intended to BE a sequel to Chrono Trigger but they wanted some kind of name recognition, but the only way they could adapt the story is to completely nullify the story of the previous game, and when a sequel does that it is ALWAYS a pet peeve of mine.

[@WhitebeardisKing]

The problem with FF7 remake/rebirth isn't the story, maybe it plays a small part but the fact is that their biggest market(Japan) isn't as invested in the ps5 as the US so of course they would lose money making it a only ps5 game.

[@hosswik]

@WhitebeardisKing Them limiting it to PS5 did limit sells and some people were upset about the story…. But if you look at the reviews most of the complaints were about the lackluster combat. Same thing happened with FF16, Action RPG’s can, and often are good… but they missed the mark with both FF7R games and FF16, by opting for watered down uninspired gameplay instead of playing it safe and using the traditional system. This is in my opinion, the primary reason why most fans are waiting for it to have a good sale before buying.

[@WhitebeardisKing]

@hosswik the biggest market for final fantasy is Japan and the fact they made both of the new games ps5 only destroyed the sells, personally I loved ff16 but I love most of the ff games except 9, sure the gameplay can kinda get repeative but what game doesn't? I mean I'd wager that alot of ff players also play things like cod or battlefield or halo.

[@KZRobbo]

I don’t really get the surprise over Rebirth sales, I quite enjoyed remake but it felt a bit stretched out, which probably meant a lot didn’t finish, so why would they buy the next section. The next one will probably sell less again, I bought rebirth but haven’t even started it yet as was a little ff burnt out after xvi

[@MaxSmalls]

I said the same thing as well. By the time I get to the end of Wallmarket I burn out. But now I have new lore I never asked for on how the plate sunlamps work!

[@GodzillasaurusJr]

Since I am European, I think I can pat myself on the back for going above and beyond - I actually bought Chrono Cross back in the day (and loved it)! ;)

[@suburbanl3g3nd497]

I think folks didn't buy the second Final Fantasy 7 remake game because they took a game that was perfect as one game and well told and then gave it The Hobbit (or other popular book turned movie that went multipart) treatment and blew it up into a multigame of one game. What's better than paying $60/$70 to get the remade version of FFVII? Paying three times to get the same basic story.

[@MaxSmalls]

Cause as a fan of the original, I ReAlLy needed a whole section that added in depth information on the plate sunlamps... 😂

[@nrudy]

I think the biggest reason the Lost Crown has mediocre sales is that on PC its an EPIC exclusive. That with the price is a good way to really limit your sales.

[@slime_ism]

I've seen this comment a lot, is there any reason ppl hate having a different launcher for a single player game?

[@nrudy]

@slime_ism I think it's just generally bloatware if you have other launchers. Like, imagine you had an album with below expected sales but you could only buy it or listen to it on Apple Music. Sure, you can get the platform to access the music... but why? Unless you're a super fan, its just inconvenient.

[@DC-FGC]

Chrono Cross deserves the loss. It's a prime example of pumping resources into areas that don't make sense(only 5 or 6 of the 45 playable characters are in any way important to the overall story) and using the good reputation of another title to get more anticipation and praise than actually deserved. The only connection between the 2 games was a late-game reveal that nothing seemed to be working towards, so it came entirely out of left field. People are still clamoring for a proper sequel to Chrono Trigger because Chrono Cross wasn't one.

[@dragonwing1982]

Agree 100% cross sucked.

[@Pulmonox]

Not to mention canonically the kingdom of Marle and Chrono was overthrown by Dalton and then wibbley-wobbly timey-wimey stuff erased everything you did in Chrono Trigger. I absolutely HATE it when sequels do things like that, but it was the only way the could stick 'Chrono' into the title and make Cross 'fit' with the other game, since it wasn't originally designed to be a sequel to Trigger.

[@dansmith1661]

Among other things, there were several connections. Guile is supposed to be Magus. Mother Brain(?) mentioned that Robo (not the OG) was terminated out of spite off screen. The CT kids cursing you out because of Time Kompression. It taking place around Porre which controls half the CT world or something. Ayla's mom/grandma being playable. Lucca's Orphanage.

[@versesZero]

Yeah as somebody who was the prime demographic back then and LOVED Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross was a huge letdown. I definitely didn't give it a fair chance because I wanted more Chrono Trigger and instead got... something completely unrelated. The links to CT they shoe-horned in there don't count. If they had given it a different name and let it be it's own story/franchise I probably would have loved it off the bat. Instead it took me years to get past the sequel let-down to enjoy CC for what it is. The fact that I'm still a little salty about this 25 years later should say it all lol.

[@toongrowner1]

Oh you telling me seperating FF7 Storie into multiple parts, soyou basicly have to pay full price for technicly one game multiple times and drasitcly changing the story to some shitty multiverse fanfiction might have been a bad idea on the long run? Who would have thought? Stop being blinded and gaslgihted by hyper realistic graphics, people.

[@MaxSmalls]

But at least you know how the sunlamps work under the plates now!!! 😂😉

[@jamesgatto72]

I definitely want to give ff7 rebirth my money. The quality and passion from the devs is evident. But games are too expensive these days. I've got a backlog and I can wait for a sale. Like most people, I imagine.

[@ryancraig110]

I wouldn't buy too much into the capcom games they have notoriously high expectations for sales to consider something a success

[@NOLAgenX]

I never realized Mirror’s Edge didn’t sell well. I bought it right away, played it to death, and even bought it again when it came to GOG.

[@Vorylenus]

Final Fantasy 7 wont sell until it is a F'ing COMPLETE GAME! I refuse to pay installments for a game that was completed and fully released originally and not sold in piece parts to try to capitalize on profits on a beloved classic.

[@BGNewsReporter]

You're missing out then. Rebirth is fantastic. If you really want to wait to play all three back to back then put aside 200-300 hours.

[@Vorylenus]

@@BGNewsReporter Oh no... I'm missing out on a game that is shorter than the amount of time I have in Elden Ring or any other Dark Souls Game for that matter. Or ANY other type of Deep RPG.

[@stevebest5038]

Ref: Final Fantasy Rebirth. I am a huge FF fan and I adored Remake. Absolutely hyped for Rebirth and with every intention to play it to death. But I still haven't bought it, for one simple reason (and the same reason I've not yet played numerous other AAA games): I'm not paying £70 for a game. And even when it's been 'on offer', it's still £50+. I'll wait, thanks.

[@rajder656]

honestly if they added regional pricing it wouldnt be AS bad but you end up paying 20 dollars more just because of no regional pricing

[@donaldfrederick501]

Max Payne 2... Jedi Academy was 4 weeks before this released and the original Call of Duty was 2 weeks later (Sandwiched between were Tiger woods PGA, EA's NHL and NBA games and Smackdown Here comes the Pain (and a dozen of games).

[@zacharypickering9202]

I hate the way video games are talked about now in days “ it sold 9 million what a bomb”. … yea, right

[@blinkachu5275]

10: Own it 9: Own it and its sequel and beat both (sequel was disappointing) 8: Never even seen it before lol 7: Never heard of it 6: Own the first, want this sequel still 5: Own it 4: Want it still 3: Own it and played it plenty when it was active 2: Own the special edition 1: Don't really care about these I'd say I did my part for the most of these :P

[@Lynxan]

Of what I did care about on this list: Viewtiful Joe: Got the first and it never clicked with the gameplay, so never got past the first. Mirror’s Edge, Got it, played it to where I did the whole thing death free, what interested me into the game in the first place. Final Fantasy 7.. the new ones, waiting for it to be done, I hate cliffhangers. Last Guardian: Got it, loved it, played it a lot more then the two games before it. Shenmue: Got the first, never clicked with me in gameplay.

[@PaleComparison]

Just want to add my thoughts on FF VII trilogy. While I love the Remake and want Rebirth to play on pc, it's just too high of an asking price for me to pay 70 usd for the same game over and over. Adding in that I carry over nothing to the next game, regardless of unlockables from previous installments of the series, it soon became a game I want but not really will ever need. I quickly went back to the og after beating Remake, modded it with better graphics and loved feeling nostalgic while getting a "new coat" over my beloved genre. 6:30

[@justinlami9573]

I had 3 of them Mirror's Edge - Even had a short-lived world record on one of the levels when I found an incredibly tight jump over barbed wire.... speedruns eventually got straight bonkers though Chrono Cross - Also had FF9, so that didn't stop me from getting both, grinded so many endings I still can't find one on-line and am convinced it was a dream now... the funniest endings were the ones where you had to get the elements casted in the right order, which involved correctly guessing which spells the boss would cast Shenmue 1 - maybe not 2? I was more focused on Grandia 2, but loved unlocking new combos and collecting the little capsule toys also had strange Japanese Nascar game, one car was named like Grasshopper or something

[@masofdas]

Dreamcast is same gen as PS2 not PS1, that be the Saturn

[@elrojojp]

Sad that onimusha 4 bombed, it was one of my favorite games in the series

[@Clasteau]

Bought Chrono Cross, played it, loved it (not QUITE as much as Trigger), played it again, still have it and pull it out every so often. Brilliant game.

[@VictorRobotov00]

Please, NEVER stop saying “Shenmue” like that. Gives me a huge laugh every single time.

[@Darkchao_berserko22]

Every single time he says it make these video entertaining

[@Rash808]

I can now never say it normally thanks to these videos :P

[@VictorRobotov00]

Haha yeah. Any in his line of catch phrases crack me up. And I also this every time too.

[@bchap1233]

Ff7 rebirth was only on ps5. Not as many consoles out there, there won’t be large sales numbers compared to Remake.

[@BuckEtheAlien]

I can't be alone in skipping some games simply because they have: insane DRM, are obviously broken up and drawn out purposely to maximize profits, or are designed specifically to suck up all of your free time for an indefinite amount of time.

[@rajder656]

console exclusivity is the worst DRM of all

[@archangel2015]

He forgot to mention the 2nd part of the final fantasy 7 remake was padded to high heaven to increase the playtime.

[@misakikoko4500]

I've only played Onimusha Dawn of Dreams from this list. It had by far the best gameplay from that series. The next Onimusha and Legacy of Kain game are something I've wanted for a long time. The only other game I played the original was FF7 and FF7 Remake. I got FF7 Remake for free with PS+. I liked the visuals and the changes to the story, but didn't like the combat.

[@rosssnyder4490]

I played the original trilogy and I *HATED* the changes they made to the series. Taking a great dark historical fantasy and turning it into an anime style video game. If you liked it, cool & I am genuinely happy to hear it but I just couldn't stand it.

[@rosssnyder4490]

I played the original trilogy and I *HATED* the changes they made to the series. Taking a great dark historical fantasy and turning it into an anime style video game. If you liked it, cool & I am genuinely happy to hear it but I just couldn't stand it.

[@misakikoko4500]

@@rosssnyder4490 I did say the gameplay was better. Story-wise I like Samanosuke better as the main character. The best overall game was the third game, but the combat was better in DoD. I didn't like Jubei, so the second was my least favorite.

[@rosssnyder4490]

@misakikoko4500 I didn't mean to post that twice. I thought the gameplay for 4 wasn't bad, but the shift in tone and the fact that they all felt like bad anime stereotypes, along with a terrible plot, just killed it for me. My only issue with 2 was one puzzle, and I enjoyed it otherwise. The first one is definitely my favorite, but I highly enjoyed the 3rd one, too

[@hosswik]

I loved all 4 games, but I understand why 2 and 4 may have rubbed y’all the wrong way lol. From Software used Onimusha as inspiration when they made Demon Souls for a reason, and I am really hoping Capcom realizes it one day…. I mean look at Team Ninja, they looked at Dark Souls and went “hey wait a minute some of those animations look familiar” and then bam we got Nioh and then Nioh 2, and I couldn’t be happier lol. I oversimplified it for comedy… but I stand by what I said.

[@georgen5882]

I think for FF7 Rebirth it's far more about what they are doing with the story and how they absolutely milked the first one to the point where the cow was clearly dead, and yet they were like "No, one more meaningless fetch quest...just one more!" That game, while good, was clearly much too short and much too bloated at the same time. When half of your game's runtime is cut scenes and side quests, you did something wrong. Especially with FF7. I liked it well enough, but it didn't blow me away. I expected more from a remake of one of the greatest RPGs ever made. I don't love the combat system, either. With the amount of battles in the game, I feel like they should have had some form of AI setting for you to use a default. Kind of like Dragon Age when it was released 14 years ago? I know some people liked it, some didn't, but for me the combat felt way too time consuming and I don't like micro managing every fight. They also spread these out too much. People lose interest after a period of time now. If the first was better then it would have had more of a chance, but it is what it is. I finished the first and it just was not a satisfying conclusion and didn't hype me up to wait almost four years for the next one. I'm sure quite a few felt that way and will hold off for a sale.

[@charlesshamseldin9555]

I'm glad you mentioned Beyond Good and Evil at the beginning. It is one of my favorite games of all time and is 100% wholly unique. If you are reading this find a way to play it please! It's wonderful

[@jovialnobody]

I played it recently, and while I enjoyed it for the most part, I thought it was pretty overrated. What makes it unique to you?

[@charlesshamseldin9555]

@@jovialnobody I love the art style and its overall 'frenchness' haha. Also, the stealth sections are amazing I would say the latter half of the game is 100% better than the first half. I love the conspiracy/government stuff in this game; it's well done

[@jovialnobody]

@@charlesshamseldin9555 Thanks for your answer! I was honestly pleasantly surprised that the dark room website was still up, I could imagine that being such a cool aspect of the game back in the day, it's still pretty cool to me today.

[@jovialnobody]

@@charlesshamseldin9555 Thanks for your answer! I was surprised when I found out the site to decrtypt the codes was still up, I think at that time that would've been really cool, I still find it cool today.

[@13shadowphoenix13]

The reason I haven't bought Final Fantasy 7: rebirth...is because I don't have a ps5. I wish I did, I wish I could buy that game. I get that ps5's are the next gen, they're supposed to be better, but square enix kinda shot themselves in the foot by making FF7: rebirth a ps5 exclusive.

[@millieplaint4087]

Exactly the development time in between games has become sooo long that to play the series you basically have to buy a new console Everytime they release a new game. It's ridiculous

[@Bman32x]

Square Enix is looking to correct this in the next several years which is a good thing. Zero reason they shouldn’t be selling their games on Xbox and PC.

[@michaelbrandse7450]

In regards to Crono Trigger; what exactly were European fans waiting for? We didn't get to play the original Crono Trigger legally until it was finally released as a part of the virtual console in 2011, almost a decade after Crono Cross came out. Unless you were a hardcore gamer that had the money to buy import, or a pirate, there was little chance you had even heard of the title, let alone played it. I only played it because, well, Y'arr, I guess. Furthermore, Crono Cross couldn't be more different if it tried. Battles didn't take place in the overworld, but instead in a different map (like Final Fantasy basically), Akira Toriyama didn't do the art, turn based battles were about this weird stamina management system and comboing (so that the accuracy on heavier attacks would go up) as well as this strange magic slotting thing. Dual and triple techs were almost non-existent (and felt like they were added because, CRAP! This was supposed to be a Crono Trigger sequel!) and due to the magic slot system, the only unique skills each character had were a number of special attacks (2 or 3 or so per character). Literally the only thing similar to Crono Trigger was that this game was... turn based. That's it. Collecting characters was pretty nifty, certainly, but not something I would associate with Crono Trigger. Progression also felt watered down, because whereas Crono Trigger had no less than 5 intrinsically linked time periods (6 if we include the final boss time period), Crono Cross had only one alternate dimension. While the concept of dimensions was neat, It just didn't have the same depth as Crono Trigger in that sense. The only things that made it feel a bit like Crono Trigger was the soundtrack, as well as that the story did link to Crono Trigger, even if the final twist/climax was done quite poorly (blonde(!?) Scala that needs to be defeated by the power of song? Why?) and the story had a fair share of plot-holes that make no sense or plot threads that go nowhere. Crono cross was a good game, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking it was this faithful follow-up to Crono Trigger and that it failed because, shucks, timing, because it wasn't. For someone who played Crono Trigger, Crono Cross was like a whiplash. Like biting into a fruit thinking it was a banana, only to find out it was in fact a lemon.

[@JanzenGaming]

Waaaaaaait... There was a competetive MP in Mirrors Edge Catalyst? I completed that game and didnt even know.

[@jeffzimmer2433]

I wanted Chrono Cross and I own the ps1 game and repurchased (though I don't like the few changes - the radical dreamer ps5 version). Very enjoyable game. No grinding really needed. You level up from bosses, not really from normal enemies and I got into the characters and their unique dialogues (since the text gave them personality with no voice work).

[@montywh]

to be fair on ME:C, sometime during the development process, it was announced that one of the consultants weighing in on the development was Anita Sarkeesian. who was public enemy number 1 in the eyes of all gamers during that time frame. so just the mention of her name would make any number of gamers decide to just not buy it for association

[@rajder656]

90% of people neither know her nor care

[@WhiteMastiff]

Onimusha Dawn of Dreams lover here! Heartbroken that it is was never included in the PS3 re-release, especially with its hidden multiplayer!

[@nekogod]

I have all the Onimusha games, one of my favourite all time series. Weird that FF7 rebirth isn't doing so well, it's absolute amazing, the combat is fantastic, probably some of the best combat in any game ever.

[@ianmitchell5979]

Catalyst did not focus on online multiplayer. Open World was the focus. Other than leaderboards and sharing time trials, I'm not sure what made you think multiplayer was the focus.

[@Zylo82]

The problem with FF7 Remake is that story wise it's not a complete game. Everyone knows that the game is going to be split into 3parts. So.... My guess ppl aren't going to even try until it's finally done. I'm one of them. Can't believe it taken them this friggin long to even get part 1 and 2 done. Part 3 will probably be another 5 years or more. Then I can finally be able to play it without having to wait.

[@snowcat5755]

Prince Of Persia: The Lost Crown - Also, making a game without it titular character, but with some "generic black guy with dreads" nobody asked for, was IQ 190 move on ubi side. Mirrors Edge - it's more because it move from fastpaced cinemalike story to boring openworld really killed it, IMHO.

[@Marshel5AQW]

I'm confused at the verbiage during the Max Payne 2 segment. You said it helped cause Take Two Interactive's shutdown, but they're still kicking to this day, and wiki for the game just says the game caused some financial forecasts to be restructured.

[@condemned7515]

Out of all of these, the only one I wanted was Shen Mue 2...Which I bought. A stark warning of how easy it is for publishers to remove our access to our games, though. Still, at least Ever Quest (1999) is still going.

[@clouds_demise]

When I ask around among my friends and acquaintances about Final Fantasy 7, the trend is that most people are waiting until the third part is released. That way they can play all three parts one after the other and have the same story content as the original. I would actually buy a physical collector's edition myself if it contained all three parts. I have only bought the first two parts digitally so far. So I suspect that the big bang for sales will come when the trilogy is complete.

[@krudmonger]

I hadn't even heard of the new Prince of Persia until this video. But then I've been living under a gaming rock since my gaming PC kicked the bucket this past winter. Also, regarding Catalyist, I'm sick of games being labeled a failure just because it sold "only" a million or two. That's a lot of eyeballs on one game out of thousands out there. Once upon a time, if a game sold a half million copies, it was a huge success. Yes, there are more gamers now, but there are also way more games competing for attention. Also, I bought Max Payne 2. It was not as fun as its predecessor.

[@timothypitcher7996]

The name of the video feels misleading. Maybe it should've been "10 Video Games We All Wanted, but Sold Poorly".

[@doormatt72]

As a single data point on the issue of final fantasy 7 remake - I bought the first, but didn’t buy the second for a few reasons. I bought a ps4 just to play remake. I didn’t want to also buy a ps5 for the same reason. The fact they released it in a split package that crossed console generations was probably one of the biggest culprits.

[@RoninGoneWild]

Huge Chrono Trigger fan. Got a PlayStation when I learned Cross was coming to America. And Cross is a great game, it’s not Trigger. And that’s not fair for Chrono Cross. It has fantastic music, a great story, and beautiful graphics at that time. It’s also a massive game. I bought it when they remastered it the first week, so Square Enix might see sales going good, so they could continue the Chrono series. A spiritual sequel is a moble game called Another Eden, and it’s amazing.

[@lawlyss]

I know this video came out a bit ago, but I thought it a good opportunity to express some discontent with FF7: Rebirth. I bought it. I logged only a few hours and dropped it. When I learned that none of my progress from the first installment carried over to Rebirth and I was starting from scratch in the next segment, all of my interest died. I did Chadley’s missions for nothing? Why play Rebirth if it doesn’t affect the third segment? I’ve repeated this frustration to anyone that has brought it up and will continue to do so.

[@fastica]

2:49 I love when multiplayer gets deactivated from mostly single player games.

[@jspntr]

i want a good mech game like armored core but easier.

[@drewtheunspoken3988]

Zone of the Enders?

[@andrewscherman6165]

Daemon X Machina, Front Mission Evolved for multi-platform, if you are on PC then add M.A.S.S. Builder to that list. Those are only a few that I personally have that include the customization that AC has, even if they are just a bit lighter in that department than AC games prior to 6. They also feature mission structure and combat control similar to AC, hell DxM was made by people who worked on the AC series previously, so. Happy gaming!

[@CarlosXPhone]

​@@drewtheunspoken3988Second Runner is better. But yeah. Not "easy," but grows on you. That's probably what he's saying. I haven't played Armored Core 6 but I plan to.

[@drewtheunspoken3988]

@CarlosXPhone fair enough. And, honestly, I liked Zone of the Enders, but it's also not the deepest or most mechanical of games.

[@hosswik]

It took awhile for me to get around to playing AC6 but it was great (I got really annoyed with people calling it a souls-like so I put it off lol.)

[@TheSwamper]

Mirror's Edge (2) sold 2.5 million copies and that caused the company to fail? 2.5 million seems like good success to me. Max Payne 2 was MUCH more difficult than the first one.

[@TheNaturalPatHarris]

6:18 one of the GREATEST GAMES EVER

[@Darkchao_berserko22]

I had no idea this game sold poorly. Max payne 1 and 2 were awesome

[@giannis_tar]

Mirrors Edge did sell well. 2.5 million within less than a year on an 8 hour campaign full price game with little marketing behind it. There is no way it had a budget of more than 30 million and those sales are more than enough to generate good profit

[@familialopez2084]

alternatively, there are games everybody bought but no one really finished. Last time, I checked the trophies of Uncharted 1 and realized that there's a really low % of people finishing the game even in Easy difficulty

[@novanexus9112]

Mirror edge, I really love it, Its rare gem to see a parkour games, in fact I don't see any parkour games anymore though :

[@khrisbreezy3628]

I only havent bought FF7 Rebirth because I haven't wrapped up Remake yet and I'm not fond of buying games just because anymore 🙃

[@CookiePieMonster]

Sperating the game like this is crazy greedy, the original had multiple discs and was charged once. Crazy people really allowed that madness.

[@lightninggreninja4676]

Same. I haven't finished Remake and I promised once I'm done, I'll get Rebirth soon

[@toongrowner1]

@@CookiePieMonster not to mention that fans asked just for some graphic and gameplay upgrades, not for that fan-fiction like mumbo jumbo. But hyper realistic graphics where more than enough to be gaslighted into that clear cash trap. Glad to hear some people finally waking up

[@CookiePieMonster]

@@toongrowner1 Never fell for it to begin with. I got friends that did and was like "Omg it's so good" all I retorted was, "And what about disc two? Three and four? Oh, they don't exist? Funny that 😐"

[@lefro77]

I think rebirths problem 100% is that it currently is ps5 exclusive. I played remake on ps4 and I'm sure most others did to, not including additional playthroughs. So being locked to a console that has only been easy to get your hands on as of like a year ago ofc it was gonna sell less. Companies set way to high of bars.

[@Bman32x]

3:44 Viewtiful Joe 2’s downfall that wasn’t mentioned was the console exclusive playable Dante. Sony once again splitting a fan base and made a lot of fans not even bother buying or playing on GC since they weren’t getting the full experience.

[@dustinmillar120]

I did play Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams and it was actually really fun

[@andrewcardona4499]

At 1:05 we finally see the return of " GIANT ENEMY CRAB"

[@cmike123]

Rebirth will probably rebound once it hits PC, but one issue was the idea that buying the first game would give you access to all subsequent games. They put that into the aether, but decided not to follow through.

[@rajder656]

it will rebound when they bundle all the gaes for the 70 dollars

[@theREALfearsKLOWNs]

Jeezus... so many good games. Both Viewtiful Joe's were amazing! Dawn of Dreams wasnt what I was expecting from an Onimusha game but it was still fun. Max Payne 2 was HIGHLY underrated; preferring it over the first. And Chrono Cross is... its... its freaking Chrono Cross!!!

[@Motorboatasaurus]

Didn't know Max Payne 2 sold poorly. Still my favorite game in the Max Payne series and every friend I got to try it at my house bought it soon after.

[@paolopontini79]

FF7 Rebirth sold half as many copies because it was a PS5 exclusive, so all those people who own the PS4 couldn't buy the sequel. Having 120 million PS4 consoles VS 50 million PS5 makes a big difference on who can buy the game.

[@Pitchguest]

FF7 Rebirth had tons of problems. Number one was it came after an underwhelming remake that changed the story of a beloved game to "subvert expectations" which we were told would have three parts. The trouble was Remake came out on the PS4 and PS5 was announced shortly after. That made consumers worried that the next part would not be released on PS4 which came true when the DLC for Remake was only on the PS5. In other words, it shut out consumers who did not have the means to buy another expensive console. Number two is the changes made to the game were so significant that it made older fans less eager to consume ita content, which is why the DLC sold poorly and why Rebirth sold poorly. Because it's not a remake, it's a reimagining. It's like adapting your favourite novel but taking out this part, changing this other part, making this other character appear way sooner taking away all the surprise and shock. It doesn't work, does it? Doesn't help that the combat system is a shambles, trying to emulate FF15 even though it was panned. The fact you can't even use summons whenever anymore just makes the game less fun. Just a few reasons why I won't touch Rebirth for a while.

[@jariroth]

FF7:Rebirth also partly sold poorly because it is a PS5 exclusive. PS5 availability was really low for the first few years of its life and lot of people are still rocking a PS4 in their living room.

[@228-Jam]

Max Payne 2 came out about 6 months after Enter the Matrix. I think given the similarities in the mechanics. Slow mo jumping through the air & how big the matrix films were it’s probably why MP2 flopped

[@Mikko088]

It was also a super short game, like 4-5 hours long. + Personally at least didn't like how simplified the story was or playing aa Mona Sucks.

[@HMAcademia]

Chono Cross was great. I loved it and it's connection to Chrono Trigger. Chono Cross managed to be beautiful with great 3d and some 2d backgrounds that looked like paintings. Music was also great. I remember playing it with a dictionary to translate because I didn't understand English very well. It was a little hard since some characters had accents or just spoke weirdly😅

[@EmberMcLain87]

well to the defense of the prince of Persia game i still want to buy it, and play it.. but when other finacle obligations have to come 1st some things like the game must be pushed to the back burner. plus the only time i really buy anymore is from October - December when i have my extra cash saved up, and can rely on sales to help me get all said games.

[@arztje]

POP - one of the biggest problems is that you had to use the Ubisoft platform to play it and many of us don't want to use proprietary platforms for every game. Pretty much has to be on Steam if it's for PC.

[@Pulmonox]

I generally enjoy innovative Metroidvanias but as I am currently in protest of Ubisoft, this one will remain unplayed.

[@andrewscherman6165]

The sad fact is that it pretty much HAS to be on Steam because the other are just plain awful to navigate or utilize. Gabe may suck, but Valve has stayed on course in trying to keep their digital storefront usable and friendly. When you consider the competition on those fronts, you would think that companies that make ludicrous amounts of income on Engine licensing fees, exclusivity contracts, and a single game so stuffed with microtransactions and outside advertising (which also generates income) could at least put some effort in to make something that is better, well, when they don't they just come off like their player base - a bunch of whiny angry children who want to throw a fit when they don't get their way