Retro Ups & Downs: WWE WrestleMania 9 - Worst Mania EVER

[@jayrime3474]

Wrestlemania 21 (most overlooked wrestlemania): Batista and John Cena winning their first world championships, Kurt Angle Vs Shawn Michaels, First Money in the Bank, Undertaker Vs Randy Orton

[@tinotica]

Greatest first half of a Wrestlemania with one of the lamest second half of a Wrestlemania. All the great moments started at the beginning but then fell off a cliff after Angle vs Shawn

[@youtubeman3356]

@@tinotica if only the network existed back then half the event wouldn’t be rushed due to the interpromotional matches going past it’s minutes

[@arnaldomedina3961]

Money in the back is next Sunday, which is why it makes since on why we really need to do this.

[@kidneystonermusic]

Wm19 kills that

[@jamesgordon7040]

Yeah that was a good one.

[@Reacher85]

WWE Wrestlemania 21 -Triple H vs Batista (World title match) -JBL vs John Cena (WWE title match) -HBK vs. Kurt Angle -The Undertaker vs Randy Orton -Rey Mysterio vs Eddie Guerrero -The 1st ever Money In The Bank Ladder Match Let's do this retro ups and downs since the money in the bank ppv next week.

[@shanegriffin9519]

How do you forget the best match on the card in hbk and Kurt angle????

[@NehaGupta-fe4dw]

Let's do WWF invasion ppv .It could be a very nice ppv to talk about.

[@mariom6368]

That's a fun one!

[@sinjin4563]

Yeah everything fans would’ve wanted to happen at Survivor Series the last few years especially 2018 is what they did at Invasion 2001 in terms of counting the record of the matches and building it as a story through the PPV, having it be 3-3 by the main event and giving the main event more stakes in real time.

[@bobbiesuedavis5406]

Why is the Invasion storyline so popular all of a sudden🤔 Perhaps it's because it's the 20 year anniversary.

[@HenryT316]

@@bobbiesuedavis5406 as a kid I loved it, as an adult the storyline was terrible haha BUT that Invasion ppv still holds up as an extremely entertaining show

[@johnalbent]

20 years this month....was so excited.

[@mariom6368]

I trust Simon as a modern version of a repo man.

[@FMD-FullMetalDragon]

I'd be good with that.

[@DepressyDuck]

The "fans" chanting "USA!" despite neither competitor being from the USA in kayfabe. Out of kayfabe, that would mean they were chanting for Yoko, who they were supposed to be against. Oh, America.

[@zachorykemp16]

I was there. At 11 I knew and tried to start a Canada chant.

[@nicholasokeefe3632]

They werent chanting for either they were chanting against both but mainly Bret more than likely. A crowd chant is going to go that deep lmao.

[@Atroz7]

Jokes on you American won the title in the end!!!

[@therealhatchet]

"Oh America" who walked away with the title at the end of the night bitches lol jk

[@TheSBleeder]

@@Atroz7 And not just any American. A REAL American! Fight for what's right... fight for your life! Sorry. Got caught up in the moment.

[@foxfireinferno3547]

I remember talking to a friend of mine who wasn't able to make my viewing of the PPV asking me "Who won between Bret Hart and Yokozuna?" I deadpan responded "Hulk Hogan." He had a total Blue Screen of Death moment in his brain.

[@jimbowlan5804]

That was a dumb decision I’d have just kept it on yoko

[@bury_the_elite65294]

IKR? "A fatal exception 0E has occurred in your brain, due to Wrestlemania 9. The current brain activity will be terminated. Press any key to continue. Press CTRL-ALT-DEL to continue without saving. You will lose any unsaved WM9 matches. Not that you'd mind." X-D

[@TheSBleeder]

@@bury_the_elite65294 "You will not lose any unsaved WM9 matches." I'm perfectly fine with losing Undertaker-Gonzales.

[@Hawkeye26]

"The Big Event" 1986 - Jake Roberts vs Ricky Steamboat in a "Snake Pit Match", JYD vs Adrian Adonis, Hulk Hogan vs Mr. Wonderful Paul Orndorff and more legends Make it truly RETRO!

[@EssexAggiegrad2011]

Totally

[@Jac_Supernova23]

TNA Bound for Glory 2013: AJ Styles vs Bully Ray for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship

[@TravestyJunction]

Good idea even though their Last Man Standin' Match was better at Slammiversary is better.

[@Jac_Supernova23]

@@TravestyJunction That’s fair, but I feel like this match was more dramatic than anything tbh

[@scarfacefan5]

Any TNA after 2009 is not worth anything.

[@TravestyJunction]

@@scarfacefan5 Option C says otherwise.

[@scarfacefan5]

@@TravestyJunction I don’t see it being made into an episode now do I?

[@tajunoor1311]

I still believe Macho Man gave Hogan that black eye.

[@jimbowlan5804]

Me too

[@Carpenter_King86]

Well duh.

[@jacobclark4354]

Unforgiven 2008: The 3 Championship Scramble matches, awesome match type that was never used again except once on WWECW.

[@joshuastedford1670]

I forgot about the Championship scrambles - they definitely brought something a bit different and they were quickly forgotten. I'm fully up for a Retro Ups and Downs for Unforgiven '08. Good suggestion 👍

[@Bruh-ys3sx]

WWECW

[@cloudxz92]

True it was pretty fun. Don't know why they nerver used it again?

[@NeonGhostNinja]

WrestleMania Ups & Downs: WM 9: 3-6 WM 13: 5-3 WM 17: 9-3 WM 18: 5-6 WM 19: 7-4 WM 23: 6-3 WM 24: 6-3 WM 25: 5-3 WM 30: 5-2 WM 33: 9-8 WM 34: 13-6 WM 35: 15-7 WM 36: 14-10 WM 37: 13-9

[@ryangriffiths5179]

Is 3 not done?

[@tinotica]

He needs to 2, 11 or 15. Good luck finding 2 good things about that

[@ashishtahelyani3135]

We need WM 20

[@tinotica]

@@ashishtahelyani3135 my 2nd favorite Wrestlemania ever. Yes!!

[@ryangriffiths5179]

@@ashishtahelyani3135 they skipped that year. If it ain’t on the network it didn’t happen

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

No mercy 2001. I'll keep pushing for it.

[@stefanweigl6438]

Poor simon....its like heros of wrestling all over again

[@kevintyson9059]

I'm just going to keep suggesting Wrestle Kingdom 1 every week til it gets in the poll

[@MidnightSky1821]

Seems like if it's not WWE it doesn't get noticed. Sucks tbh.

[@skyleroliver7078]

August 9, 1999 Monday Night Raw: The debut of Y2J

[@rickytes]

I was in 9th grade and recall my friend's parents bought this PPV. At the time we enjoyed the heck out of it and I was super disappointed that Bret lost. Besides Macho Man, he was one of my favorite wrestlers. Anyway, I remember when Hogan came out we were both confused but then when Fuji issued the challenge and Hogan accepted, we jumped out of our seats, and when he won we yelled and screamed in excitement. Knowing now what had happened behind the scenes, it was all a waste. But man, it was real to us. To be a kid again!

[@drrockkso8882]

I love that the crowd was chanting "U-S-A!" in support of Bret Hart (who is Canadian) in his match against Yokozuna (who was actually American). Gotta love wrestling LOL.

[@popmonika]

There's actually a gem (kinda) of seeing El matador (Tito Santana) finally stopping his paperview losing streak against Papa Shango... Until it was made into a dark match due to half empty crowd watching... But can now be watched on the network.

[@exilhamburger4802]

Growing up Tito was one of my favorite wrestles (that was after strike force) because he looked believeable. Reliable hand to get the crowd involved early on.

[@MrSniperfox29]

Luger didn't win with the most devastating move in all of sports entertainment. He won with a backslide despite the fact Perfect's feet were in the ropes (so another dodgy finish). Honestly it seems Ramon v Backlund and the Steiners tag were the only matches with clean finishes

[@SimonMillerYT]

A backslide absolutely counts as a TMDMIAOSE. Surprise pin!

[@TheSBleeder]

@@SimonMillerYT With all due respect, I think a Schoolboy is the only MDMIAOSE. If a 110-pound woman can't pin a 250-pound man with the move, it's not a true surprise roll-up. Although interestingly enough, Wikipedia distinguishes between a roll-up and a schoolboy.

[@paulolopez2649]

Simon telling his metal plate story 🤣🤣 just makes you like him even more

[@TheWaywardJs]

Please keep doing these, Simon. They're so great.

[@chunkyboyjames]

I’m gonna keep suggesting it: TNA Victory Road 2011, the Sting v Jeff Hardy incident

[@lucasofmirrah5042]

My favorite part was the fact that the crowd was probably at its loudest when they were chanting “RAZOR RAZOR RAZOR”, despite Backlund being the babyface lmao

[@blackieblackmetal7218]

"We didn't pass the title around like a potato." One of the most profound statements Ive heard Simon make in a long time. Sounds like he's sick of the current state of affairs too.

[@DamionStingerDrake]

Lucha underground Aztec warfare 2 (debut of Rey Mysterio and Matanza).

[@Tenchigumi]

16:36 Father Gascoigne makes an appearance, and incidentally, he fights a giant hairy beast.

[@jeremybooth6720]

Thank you for the double browns, Simon.

[@Powerslave226]

The wrestling world could do with Simon as the Repo Man.

[@timwright3218]

They could bring back Barry Darsow as his literal manager sending him out on assignments before leaving to play golf.

[@catisreckless4647]

@@timwright3218 That... actually could work.

[@sirelijahthethird9094]

Let’s see if the finger of power has what takes to do Raw March 25th 2002 The first WWE draft

[@robertharris4390]

That WWE belt is so beautiful looks so much better than what we see today & I love that Taker entrance

[@wolfhurricane897]

The bodysuit Giant Gonzalez had made him look like a giant from ancient mythologies.

[@michaelscriver5395]

This was my first mania to my kid self it was the greatest thing I ever saw

[@georgechambers4617]

me too!

[@GamingVids1984]

Same here!

[@RandallWI]

I feel sorry for you 😞🤐😂😂

[@michaelscriver5395]

@@RandallWI not me bro memories are memories good or bad lol

[@anachronologist2017]

Simon, you should utilize that metal arm story into kayfabe and make your new signature move the Solid Steel Lariat

[@TheLarryburns84]

this is actually pretty badass.

[@Trippette]

WrestleWar 1982 - Sting's Squadron vs The Dangerous Alliance - WarGames

[@DJDoubleCee]

I didn’t agree with Hulk Hogan winning the WWE title in the end but if the Las Vegas crowd were Hulk-a-maniacs then I can see why Vince decided to put the belt on him.

[@MephProduction]

Hogan cashed in his MITB,

[@j0njn]

Repo Man did fight at This Tuesday in Texas, how about giving that a review? 😁

[@MajorG13]

Not retro enough I suppose

[@bentarbuck6161]

given what theyre doing with baron corbin, theres a great chance for a scene between him and repo man

[@josephjames2011]

Simon thanks even tho it was titled "E" thank you for "F" Golden Up. Now about this PPV - Brown Hogan. Love everyone .

[@TheReignofHorror]

I still maintain that Undertaker vs Gonzales is the worst match I have ever seen. (Also slight correction: it was not a no contest, Taker won by DQ) Anyway my suggestion will be Cyber Sunday 2007.

[@jimbowlan5804]

Any match the yeti was apart of

[@t-bro9529]

This was definitely an ordinary WrestleMania. The only thing I can say at least Hogan and Yokozuna made heaps of money on live event attendances back between March to June 1993

[@miker4883]

Repo Man's actual last match in WWE was in 2007, in a battle royal on Raw's 15th Anniversary

[@pacman52280]

I wonder when his last match was as a full time competitor.

[@jb888888888]

He was also in the WM X7 Gimmick Battle Royal.

[@bradleybrandl181]

Royal Rumble 2010. Edge winning the Royal Rumble with an impressive return, and Shawn Michaels throwing one of pro wrestling's best temper tantrum.

[@danjennings8618]

I'm still waiting for Wrestlemania 2!!!

[@jerryjanik480]

Yes that's one of the worst wrestlemanias of all time that's worse than WrestleMania 9

[@shreder75]

I wonder how many subscribers know who David Attenborough even is. Lol

[@freighttrainsahpassing9790]

The first match between Shawn Michaels and Tatanka was good !!

[@johnstuartkeller5244]

That is the best shirt I have seen all year, and it is on a great man.

[@sktv8977]

How about No Mercy 2016 this time; John Cena vs AJ Styles vs Dean Ambrose for the WWE Championship and Dolph Ziggler vs The Miz for the Intercontinental Championship with Ziggler's career on the line in probably one of the best matches of both men's career

[@alexfarrell3250]

How does 2016 classify as retro?

[@sktv8977]

@@alexfarrell3250 They did Wrestlemania 30 and Elimination Chamber both from 2014 so why not something from 2016. Moreover, that was the time when Big Match John was still a regular on WWE TV , Jon Moxley was known as Dean Ambrose and the biggest heel of today's business Roman Reigns was still trying to get over with fans as a 'Never Giving Up Babyface'. Seems quite retro to me.

[@alexfarrell3250]

@@sktv8977 definitely not retro. Nor were the ones from 2014

[@jamesbonnen]

17:44 They did the house show circuit with them too. It was the first wrestling event for my local arena The Mark of The Quad Cities

[@scottwilson3642]

iX was the first PPV, I mean "premium live event" my parents had gotten me when I was a kid, and it seemed sooooo awesome then. Going back and watching it as an adult though, well I share Simon's sentiments. Overall, it gets a brown down from me as well.

[@SliceyDicey]

That metal plate story was hilarious. I tried to convince everyone I was Italian for a couple years.

[@flyinthebug35]

LOL Simon! I can relate! When I was 11, I told all my friends I had a new mini bike in my garage but I wasnt allowed to ride it until I turned 12 (plus I started the lie in winter to buy me more time lol). I was obsessed with Evel K at the time, so I had to own my own motorbike of course lol. My friends all believed me at first, but then they wanted to see it in person. I kept making excuses why I couldnt have friends at the house, and when pressed, used my BICYCLE to make tracks in the snow, so I could show my friends the tracks lmao. Clearly they busted me, I was so embarrassed that my old man went and bought me a real 1971 Honda Mini Trail 50 cc mini bike...and suddenly I was a ok with my friends again lol. I seriously laughed when you told your metal plate in your arm story, so I had to share mine, Cheers mate,

[@ricstormwolf]

Simon just made me realize that in a matter of a few months, Hogan buried the tag titles and stole the world title from Bret and Yoko at one event, then buries that same world title he just politicked for in Japan. Then goes to WCW and politics the belt off of Flair. The #1 NWA/WCW guy of all time. Then, brings in his buddies for a "way past our time, brother" tour. Then...Ed Leslie.. in the main event...at Starrcade. A part of us all died that year.

[@MAni04me]

Next retro ups and down Lucha Underground ultima lucha 1. A great ppv for a was great promotion.

[@jaredkennedy6725]

YES!

[@johnryall8003]

Or the "no mas" from season 2

[@jimbobjones9330]

Mania 9 isn't the worst Mania... Mania 32 is the worst Mania. This at least was short. 32 had about 15 minutes of good stuff in a 73 hour long show. Absolute garbage.

[@Nekorook]

It’s also the first Wrestlemania I remember watching. By that I mean staring at the wavy line on the TV and listening to the commentary cause I couldn’t afford the PPV since I was a child.

[@RaghavanN]

A punishment for Simon to be honest 😂Now we need WrestleMania 21 next week.The first MITB Ladder Match,Batista becoming World Champion,Cena becoming WWE Champion,Taker vs Orton,Angle vs HBK and Eddie vs Rey.

[@MrSniperfox29]

To be fair, Heenan majorly sold Ramon beating Backlund, mainly because Ramon (the brawler) beat Backlund (the wrestler) with a wrestling move

[@jonathanblaine1577]

A friend at school lent me this on VHS. My brother accidentally recorded an episode of Top Gear over the end. This 1993, when Top Gear was just straight car reviews. My friend was very unimpressed.

[@TheSBleeder]

I'd love to see you do Fully Loaded 2000. Rock vs. Benoit for the WWF Championship Triple H vs. Jericho: Last Man Standing Val Venis vs. Rikishi: Cage match for the Intercontinental Championship. (Rikishi hits a big splash from the top of the cage.) Undertaker vs. Kurt Angle Hardy Boyz and Lita vs. T&A and B Trish Stratus

[@MyMechagodzilla]

Simon...I'm begging you....please, please, PLEASE!! Do the UWF Blackjack Brawl! You have to see a legit coked-up Herb Abrams!

[@oliverthomas-couch]

TNA Destination X 2008 so Simon can watch Shark boy and Curry man vs 3D as well as Samoa Joe, Christian and Nash vs Angle, Styles and Tomko. Sorry this is late, it's my birthday and I had a bit of a party with friends

[@billcowan5539]

Simon go back and watch the first WCW vs New Japan Super Show from 1991, it has some great wrestling matches on it like Sting vs The Great Mira, Ric Flair vs Fujanami, and The Steiners vs Hase and Sasaki also Justin Liger defending his IWGP Jr Heavy weight title, it’s a great card that is really ahead of its time

[@benl7925]

Ups and Downs for Steve Blackman's, Repo Man's, or Broklyn Brawler's career

[@JL-sm6cg]

@4:45; yes you do. I learned that the hard way when I was in Army basic. lol

[@Undertakerlover1306]

I was 3 when this Wrestlemania came out. All that I remembered was the Undertaker’s entrance, and the Salt in the eyes during the main event.

[@mrpogo72]

Simons facial expressions during horrible ppvs makes the world better. 🙄🤦‍♀️🤣

[@dlee985]

I honestly didn't mind 9. Although it wasnt great.. IMO WM11 is the WORST.

[@kylegacy]

Regarding Giant Gonzalez's ring attire - if memory serves, creative services had to very quickly knock up a drawing of some attire for him as they were against the clock. They were told to draw something that was like a cross between Wolverine and a werewolf. And they delivered a cartoon drawing of what you see Gonzalez wearing: a full body suit with airbrushed muscles and hair glued to it. Everyone thought it was the drizzling shits, but Vince loved it. Said it looked scary. Gave it the green light, naturally. 😒

[@antbrooks1625]

Well they straight up disqualified Giant Gonzalez, not No Contest.

[@daveterry4326]

This was one of my first shows I stayed up to watch live (in the UK)and I loved it at the time. Kind of don't want to go back to watch it again now

[@W4ndererBen]

Can you do a Retro Ups & Downs on Summerslam 1991 "Match Made in Heaven"? It is the earliest PPV I actually remember watching and thought the Bret Hart vs Mr Perfect match was awesome. Also, anyone old enough will remember this was back when the PPV's were actually on Sky Movies (in UK) which now seems very random!

[@Matt_1982]

WM IX sucks but I have a soft spot for it. It was the first WWF PPV that I was able to watch live in my own house as my parents had recently got satellite TV. Previously, I had to borrow tapes from friends. Since this tape belonged to me, I could watch it whenever I wanted. I think I must've watched it 30 times over the years.

[@latrellmcdowell4198]

The ending of Doink/Crush was fucking hilarious!!!!

[@FSM_Inferno]

Wrestlemania 31: the heist of the century

[@adamcahn9315]

Tatanka was supposed to win the IC title, but plans were changed and he won by count out to keep his winning streak alive. A couple years later he was riding with Bret and Taker and they told him the night before WM that Shawn went to Vince and said that he(Tatanka) had a bad attitude and that’s when Mcmahon scrapped the idea of putting the belt on him. Speaking of belts isn’t it interesting that the picture of Hogan posing in the ring with the championship belt that there are dark ominous clouds overhead? A sign of bad times ahead?

[@Canadianhick]

thats the first shirt i have considered buying

[@CUniverse]

*"CEASAR'S PARKING LOT!"*

[@MephProduction]

Hogan cashed in his MITB, proves how shit the stipulation. no such thing as a bad version of doink they were all good fun.

[@jadziaezri2616]

Simon that is the most awesome shirt I want to buy one right now!

[@Naruto0s44]

Bound for Glory 2008 the rise of the main event Mafia

[@AwkwardAutognome]

Suggestion: The first Summerslam (1988)

[@davidranallo8020]

I recall reading one of Bret’s articles for the Calgary Sun claiming that the Hulk swap was to build to a Hart/Hogan match (maybe SS?) and Hogan’s departure from the WWF meant it never happened. Doubtless we’d look back more fondly if we got to see Hart put on a barnburner with Hogan.

[@jimbowlan5804]

Hogan just didn’t want to put hart over because he claimed hart was too small

[@davidranallo8020]

@@jimbowlan5804 But was that in reference to Hulk’s departure (and the need to drop the belt) or just his opinion of Hart overall? I’ve heard that Hogan was supposed to go over if he’d stayed in the company. Anyway screw HH in the A with a BFD, pls

[@wiseguy8100]

I'm nostalgic for 9. I might be the only one who likes it lol

[@leegibson18]

It still has its moments tbh but the dodgy finishes didn't help lol

[@Monaayy29]

Wrestlemania 21 next please

[@MikeD974]

Hate this mania and hogan winning I thought it was a step backwards not going forward

[@TomBailey2]

I was 8 when this was on, thought it was brilliant 😆😆😆

[@antwauneharris6663]

Now I can’t unsee Simon’s bald head with shampoo sudds

[@braedenmartin8596]

You go crazy over whenever a title change happens that’s just what happens. “Expect when it’s the 24/7 title.” 😂 😂 😂

[@matthewsmith4760]

Summerslam 2001. Stone cold Vs Kurt angle. The rock Vs booker t. Plus the awesome ladder match between RVD and Jeff hardy. Kane and undertaker Vs ddp and kanyon cage match. It was a pretty decent ppv

[@philipdavies5195]

Any original ECW PPV next please. It’s long overdue

[@arnaldomedina3961]

We really need to do WWF Fully Loaded 1999. It's my favorite PPV during the Attitude Era.

[@frankhoward6645]

Unforgiving 98 Inferno Match

[@jeansalomon8225]

Two Simon Miller videos in one day? It must be my birthday

[@jamesgordon7040]

Unfortunately this was one of the first events I had on tape. I knew it was bad as a kid, but was naive and didn’t think it was terrible & god awful. I watched this event so many damn times. I was shook when Giant Gonzalez made The Undertaker pass out with the Chloroform. I was legitimately scared. Was so happy when the Undertaker sat up and made his way out the ring. Edit** this show was pretty much an episode of Raw with a special Ancient Greece theme with Togas, Charriots & horses. I don’t understand how this show is so bad & sandwiched between two good Wrestlemania’s, 8 & 10

[@aaronfresh85]

I actually loved WM9. And unless they piped in cheers, (also vegas comps??) they were going crazy for hogan in the tag match and the undertaker ending.

[@Nermiachaos]

PLEASE do WWF IN YOUR HOUSE 4 Great White North aka Debut of Goldust

[@LeesoPskiii]

you guys should do ups and downs to the WWF invasion storyline

[@MrChristopherHaas]

just when i thought that humour is dead along comes Simon. Thank god. ifthey put every programme in the history of film in front of him and he reviewed one after another for 100 hours a week he would have all of the money

[@ibukunolabomi3779]

Can you do a Retro Ups and Downs for a TNA PPV? ig is it has to be a significant event then maybe the 2011 Jeff Hardy vs Sting Incident or is that just fucked up?

[@jb888888888]

Repo Man was in the Gimmick Battle Royal at WM X-7 though.