Evidence of Magnetic Lines Directly Feeding a Massive Black Hole

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Anton Petrov

Anton Petrov

Күн бұрын

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@whatdamath
@whatdamath 19 күн бұрын
Hello wonderful person! I'm taking a short break, spending time with the family. A few of the videos you'll be seeing are older and have never been posted before In this one we'll talk about the visual evidence of a black hole being fed by magnetic fields across the galaxy Happy holidays!
@trzyxm3588
@trzyxm3588 18 күн бұрын
Enjoy
@BoycottChinaa
@BoycottChinaa 18 күн бұрын
Wow, just taking a short break has really taken the time off your face! Thanks Always! 🎄😺🍻
@TairaKirkland
@TairaKirkland 18 күн бұрын
Happy holidays! Wishing you a wonderful new year.
@sgttomas
@sgttomas 18 күн бұрын
thank you for all your work on this channel. hope your time away gives you everything you wanted.
@Lngbrdninjamasta
@Lngbrdninjamasta 18 күн бұрын
Season's greetings wonderful Anton ❤ I hope you enjoy your time with your family 🎉
@airman157
@airman157 18 күн бұрын
Unfortunately Sofia no longer flies, NASA cut the program for budgetary reasons in 2022 and retired the 747. It's currently on display at the Pima Air Museum in Arizona. It flew out of Nasa's Armstrong Flight Research Center at Plant 42 in Palmdale California. I used to see her on my drive in to work every morning as they were prepping her for another flight, I would consider that my own personal little brush with the cosmos. Cool report Anton.
@Moxiumous
@Moxiumous 18 күн бұрын
so when did it take the picture?
@Moxiumous
@Moxiumous 18 күн бұрын
2021 damn
@stephenbell9257
@stephenbell9257 18 күн бұрын
Sofia used to fly out of my home town, Christchurch, New Zealand, when surveying southern skies.
@Trunt87
@Trunt87 18 күн бұрын
Hello Anton, have great holidays and a happy new year
@the80hdgaming
@the80hdgaming 19 күн бұрын
You can tell the older videos due to the "offset Anton"... lol
@whatdamath
@whatdamath 19 күн бұрын
I got cornered, took some time to get out
@iwayanyudhapratama
@iwayanyudhapratama 18 күн бұрын
​@@whatdamathCool Video Anton 😊
@Wildfire002
@Wildfire002 18 күн бұрын
Real Anton fan right there!😂
@jgr03777
@jgr03777 18 күн бұрын
what do you mean by offset?
@JoyThiefTheBand
@JoyThiefTheBand 18 күн бұрын
LOL, top tier fan. I can always notice by his hair or the way he talks (but that second one is less accurate).
@persalmelin7169
@persalmelin7169 18 күн бұрын
Tack!
@macronencer
@macronencer 18 күн бұрын
Well I just learned TWO new things! I didn't know there was such a thing as telescopes on aircraft... and I'd not previously been aware that we could detect magnetic field structures remotely. I just looked up radio polarimetry and was enlightened. Thank you for continuing to provide such interesting stories, and I hope you are enjoying your time with the family, Anton!
@Local_Boydidgood
@Local_Boydidgood 17 күн бұрын
This is just what I see: "2 galaxies collided. The bodies of each merged. The extreme "dust" seen at the center is a result of damage done via collision in the middles of the respective galaxies, being more dense ner each galactic center, a black hole. The smaller of the 2 galaxies was consumed in entirety while the larger of the 2 unwound one of it's arms. Perhaps the rotation of the intersecting galaxies were either vastly different in plane or the direction of travel of the 2 was extreme. The 4 jets can only come from 2 black holes playing "binary stars" with almost touching event horizons. In time, when they merge, a "wave" will be observed the likes of which we've never seen before. The mass or NGC1097 or "C-67" is traveling almost 45°to the median plane and fast." It's awesome. Thank you for the video. Cool presentations, always.
@andypaul4242
@andypaul4242 18 күн бұрын
You don’t know how many times I have fallen asleep to the sound of your voice Anton.
@crookedhead3075
@crookedhead3075 18 күн бұрын
Same!
@christineviolet1171
@christineviolet1171 18 күн бұрын
Same here, and then I rewatch it in the morning so I see what I missed.
@deafstratso
@deafstratso 17 күн бұрын
Same!
@christianclavel7231
@christianclavel7231 19 күн бұрын
Happy New Year Anton 😊
@ProfessorPhysics
@ProfessorPhysics 18 күн бұрын
Yes, it was so beautiful back then, where you could see the images instead of the AI-enhanced dead-eye stare where eyes never leave dead centre of the screen...
@oikkuoek
@oikkuoek 16 күн бұрын
Old Skool WDM! Yay! Not only do I like this format more, it took me back in time where planets collided and things were much more positive. Thanks for the feel good nostalgia trip!
@RobertBrown-i4r
@RobertBrown-i4r 18 күн бұрын
Bless you and your family Anton -- and Happy New Year !
@josephpaulduffey873
@josephpaulduffey873 18 күн бұрын
🤯. Anton, right there on top of the greatest scientific discoveries of our times. Concise, focused.
@crowguy506
@crowguy506 18 күн бұрын
R.I.P SOFIA.
@jokerace8227
@jokerace8227 18 күн бұрын
Yes, I think it's very possible the galactic magnetic fields play more of a role in shaping and evolving galaxies than we've assumed up to now. Good stuff, as usual.
@chuck6458
@chuck6458 18 күн бұрын
Totally. But is it enough to cover the discrepancy? Dark matter and dark energy.. always been skeptical of these concepts.
@815TypeSirius
@815TypeSirius 18 күн бұрын
They literally turn galaxies into what is effectively a solid object moving through a medium. Space is not empty and a galaxy is large AND coherent enough to pick up angular momentum as it falls towards the Attractor. Dark whatever is an illusion and misunderstanding.
@nadahere
@nadahere 18 күн бұрын
😅🤣😂😛LOL. Nonsense... again. It all confirms the Plasma Cosmology [Electric Universe theory 🧲⚡] and hence why conventional astrophysicists are stumped...again. 🙃 When one hears 'magnet-whatever', it has to be immediately translated as 'electric-whatever' because... ... ...[wait for it] ... ... electromagnetic theory. Ever heard of this innocuous yet pesky concept? Didn't think so. We in the Plasma Cosmology community understand the origin and nature of these mag fields. The origins are in the nature of the Birkeland currents/filaments of the Cosmic Web that are just now being discovered. The enormous amount of current fluctuates... hence the variability in the stars and EM signals [light, radio, etc]. The 'nucular' theory can't explain this nor other 'mysteries'. HA! Physicists are on the wrong road... still and will be till hell freezes over because... reputation, ego and funding. Ya, science progresses one funeral at a time. Reg. previous 'unexplained' phenomena: BS counter #1] There is no such thing as magnetic lines!!!!!!!!!!‼ and therefore there is nothing to get 'twisted'!!!!!!!! The 'lines' are but our visual representation of mag fields. STOP USING AS A PHYSICAL PHENOMENON.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone uttering this is just showing their scientific ignorance. 🤡 🎪 BS counter #2] Mag fields can't SNAP!!!!!!!!!!!!‼ That's just more scientific ignorance. Geezus!!!!!!! 💩🚽 BS counter #3] Not that I support the existence of the phenomena which the lamestream science calls black holes, but since light and all EM radiation can't exit the event horizon there can't be any bilateral interaction between the BH and the accretion disc.‼ DONE with this theory/notion propounded by this video. But if there was a interaction that caused the BH to stop instantly it would shred/jettison the accretion disc. Has this ever been observed? NO!!!! Please put this fairy tale to rest. 🤦‍♂ See my expanded comments in Anton's previous videos. 🎩
@breakingthewall2112
@breakingthewall2112 18 күн бұрын
They have everything to do with it. Burk land currents, plasma and electromagnetism are what shapes the universe "gravity" almost nothing. Fyi gravity is not what the mainstream scientists think it is. Dark matter... Dark energy lol come on they have to invent things to hold their theory together and still is falling apart
@DrDailbo
@DrDailbo 18 күн бұрын
@@chuck6458 Look into variable speed of light cosmology, Dr. Unzicker has many videos going into this topic. The observed redshift that dark energy is inferred from has a natural origin in VSL theories as it ties the energy of the photo to the gravitational potential at its origin location. Anton has tangentially covered this on occasion, referring to this idea as "the tired light hypothesis", but he very much plays it down as it is unconventional to treat c as anything other than a constant. As far as Dark Matter is concerned, my bet is on VSL coupled with misunderstood magnetic interactions of extremely high potential fields.
@bubaks2
@bubaks2 13 күн бұрын
Happy new year Anton
@jimcurtis9052
@jimcurtis9052 18 күн бұрын
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. ✌️☺️
@danielle78730
@danielle78730 18 күн бұрын
i'm currently working on a theory of gravitational tensor-magnetics (GTM) and so found your coverage of this discovery immensely valuable! thanks, as always!!
@TheZombie1984
@TheZombie1984 18 күн бұрын
Wait, based on that diagram and that gravity doesn't directly affect electromagnetism, does that mean whatever matter in the ecretion disk is becoming charged and creating the field that inevitably makes it fall into the black hole faster?
@selfproclaimednobody4614
@selfproclaimednobody4614 18 күн бұрын
Maybe so.
@gravitonthongs1363
@gravitonthongs1363 18 күн бұрын
Friction
@TheZombie1984
@TheZombie1984 13 күн бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 Well yeah, but is said friction and heat the source of the electromagnetic field? Seems like a solution to me, but I am pretty dumb.
@gravitonthongs1363
@gravitonthongs1363 13 күн бұрын
@@TheZombie1984 I believe that is what is preposed as it also explains the astrophysical jets 🖖
@jefolicr
@jefolicr 18 күн бұрын
This image of magnetic lines around this black hole is as beautiful to me as our images of the milky way's black hole.
@mdski95
@mdski95 18 күн бұрын
Vibration insulation for that telescope must have been a bonkers bananas job 🥴
@bugsy742
@bugsy742 18 күн бұрын
It’s fixed ( was ) by several soft mounted gimbals 👍🤝 very similar in design to the ones used on aircraft for aerial photography
@edd.
@edd. 18 күн бұрын
Happy holidays!
@ibeetellingya5683
@ibeetellingya5683 18 күн бұрын
Imagine one day we can track the dynamic magnetic forces in the universe like the animated global wind maps.
@nadahere
@nadahere 18 күн бұрын
I hope so because: 😅🤣😂😛LOL. Nonsense... again. It all confirms the Plasma Cosmology [Electric Universe theory 🧲⚡] and hence why conventional astrophysicists are stumped...again. 🙃 When one hears 'magnet-whatever', it has to be immediately translated as 'electric-whatever' because... ... ...[wait for it] ... ... electromagnetic theory. Ever heard of this innocuous yet pesky concept? Didn't think so. We in the Plasma Cosmology community understand the origin and nature of these mag fields. The origins are in the nature of the Birkeland currents/filaments of the Cosmic Web that are just now being discovered. The enormous amount of current fluctuates... hence the variability in the stars and EM signals [light, radio, etc]. The 'nucular' theory can't explain this nor other 'mysteries'. HA! Physicists are on the wrong road... still and will be till hell freezes over because... reputation, ego and funding. Ya, science progresses one funeral at a time. Reg. previous 'unexplained' phenomena: BS counter #1] There is no such thing as magnetic lines!!!!!!!!!!‼ and therefore there is nothing to get 'twisted'!!!!!!!! The 'lines' are but our visual representation of mag fields. STOP USING AS A PHYSICAL PHENOMENON.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone uttering this is just showing their scientific ignorance. 🤡 🎪 BS counter #2] Mag fields can't SNAP!!!!!!!!!!!!‼ That's just more scientific ignorance. Geezus!!!!!!! 💩🚽 BS counter #3] Not that I support the existence of the phenomena which the lamestream science calls black holes, but since light and all EM radiation can't exit the event horizon there can't be any bilateral interaction between the BH and the accretion disc.‼ DONE with this theory/notion propounded by this video. But if there was a interaction that caused the BH to stop instantly it would shred/jettison the accretion disc. Has this ever been observed? NO!!!! Please put this fairy tale to rest. 🤦‍♂ See my expanded comments in Anton's previous videos. 🎩 ...
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 18 күн бұрын
R.I.P. SOFIA Telescope. F 😔
@Jokers_Yugioh666
@Jokers_Yugioh666 18 күн бұрын
This is a good one Anton!
@fredh8733
@fredh8733 18 күн бұрын
its interesting that magnetic fields can reach out beyond the event horizon. the magnetic field throws protons north and electrons south, neutrons go in the black hole since they are not affected by the magnetic field
@diGritz1
@diGritz1 18 күн бұрын
Sadly S.O.P.H.I.A. is no longer in use. It was decommissioned in Dec.2022. It is currently on display at the Pima Air & Space Museum in Arizona.
@stuartschaffner9744
@stuartschaffner9744 18 күн бұрын
The magnetic field animations showing moving arrows seem to imply a magnetic monopole moment in the black hole. That is, if you integrated over a closed volume around the black hole, more lines might point inward than outward, or vice versa. I thought that this was impossible even in a black hole. This would I guess relate to the well-known theorem that a black hole has no hair. Was the diagram wrong or can a black hole have a nonzero magnetic monopole moment?
@AdenoidHynkelThe2nd
@AdenoidHynkelThe2nd 18 күн бұрын
I assume that the diagram only shows the part of the field lines parallel to the image's plane; surely in reality there would also be lines escaping perpendicular to it.
@stuartschaffner9744
@stuartschaffner9744 18 күн бұрын
@@AdenoidHynkelThe2nd , good point. However, I would expect a dominant dipole moment in the field, aligned with the rotation axis of the black hole. I'm just not seeing this here. There's also frame dragging if the black hole is spinning.
@OneLine122
@OneLine122 18 күн бұрын
It's impossible for us to create one, but it does not mean it's impossible in theory, like if you have lot's of energy concentrated in a really small point like let's say a black hole. I think there are much more of those in reality, we simply don't recognize them as such, but here it's pretty obvious.
@JoBWon-p7z
@JoBWon-p7z 18 күн бұрын
I wonder if magnetic fields were stronger in the early universe, helping black holes (and stars) to develop quicker and larger than they currently are able to do.
@OctopusWithNoFriends
@OctopusWithNoFriends 18 күн бұрын
Indeed. With everything being closer together the farther back in cosmological time we go, it makes sense that all the fields and forces were more potent and the reactions happened at insane rates... Creating stars, galaxies, black holes, and everything else at an incredible pace! And then, once an that energy dissipated, we're left with a (fairly) stable universe, with fairly stable building blocks and physics logistics working themselves out.
@JoBWon-p7z
@JoBWon-p7z 18 күн бұрын
@OctopusWithNoFriends thank you friend for responding to my message. If you'll indulge me with one more question. Do you think it's a reasonable hypothesis that, in the early universe, that the Great inflation of the universe, was directly caused by the annihilation of matter and antimatter. If so, I think a cool name would be the Matter-Anti Matter annihilation Epoch (MAMA Epoch).
@OctopusWithNoFriends
@OctopusWithNoFriends 18 күн бұрын
@@JoBWon-p7z THAT is an interesting thought... MAMA didn't raise no fool, but that's a question I don't have answers for tbh! 😕 Lol
@phaedrussocrates7636
@phaedrussocrates7636 18 күн бұрын
Thank you
@stevenkarnisky411
@stevenkarnisky411 18 күн бұрын
Some galaxies have magnetic personalities. Some don't. Just like people. I don't, but thank you, Anton!
@whoff59
@whoff59 18 күн бұрын
It's new to me seeing several jets coming out of a single black hole. Thank you for showing.
@maxmusterman3371
@maxmusterman3371 18 күн бұрын
Black hole dynamics are so interesting, but sometimes it seems like we can still learn a lot about them.
@TheVirtuosoe
@TheVirtuosoe 18 күн бұрын
Working on it 😂
@i_dont_live_here
@i_dont_live_here 18 күн бұрын
Hello Wonderful Anton!!
@KarK1ttyy
@KarK1ttyy 18 күн бұрын
Love how this shows were almost all connected to the possibly most important and craziest part of our galaxy, really really cool
@S-T-E-V-E
@S-T-E-V-E 18 күн бұрын
These Black Holes are mind blowing, there's essentially a Galaxy worth of Matter in a space the size of our Solar System!
@leighbee1764
@leighbee1764 18 күн бұрын
Love me some magnetic field observations
@Kaimelar8
@Kaimelar8 16 күн бұрын
Same here!
@JaydragonM
@JaydragonM 18 күн бұрын
During reionization is it possible that a net outward flow of electrons radially along a galactic disk could have caused huge magnetic fields that would then feed the central black hole at tremendous speeds?
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 18 күн бұрын
In a word, no. Quasi-neutrality forbids such a thing.
@nzuckman
@nzuckman 18 күн бұрын
​@@davejones7632 quasi-neutrality in the interstellar medium is an assumption, not a proven fact.
@camielkotte
@camielkotte 17 күн бұрын
The gravity lines, watching through your eye lashes makes it sharper, as if I can see poles . Fun. Like van Gogh painting. Take off glasses, clearer picture.
@leonardgibney2997
@leonardgibney2997 18 күн бұрын
Sofia was shut down some time ago after launch of James Webb. I marvelled at how it maintained its focus on distant objects from the plane.
@markmcd2780
@markmcd2780 18 күн бұрын
I'd be interested in getting an explanation for the abrupt mag lines changes seen in the animation at 6 mins. Also the dense & well-defined 'stream' of lines at the bottom winding in towards the centre from the right side. The defined 'stream' I presume is a vast ion stream but what is guiding it? The discontinuity effects is something else - what might cause such an abrupt change of direction, not just once but at least 2 times? Also, it may be a failure of the imagery but it seems like all those mag lines are trending in to the centre - where is the other 'pole'? If the animation is NOT showing mag lines but instead the regions from which polarised light is coming, why is shown as moving?
@OneZombieHorde
@OneZombieHorde 18 күн бұрын
Yeah, it's difficult to imagine a 3 dimensional shape in this 2 dimensional animation, but I think usually they do form a toroidal shaped field.
@OneLine122
@OneLine122 18 күн бұрын
It's probably relativistic effects that give that impression. Stars in the system probably affect it as well. They are the other poles.
@markmcd2780
@markmcd2780 18 күн бұрын
@@OneLine122 Possibly you missed the part where that 'ring' is ~5000 light years across? So which relativistic effects would they be & stars in which system? 😁
@FredrikEdwall
@FredrikEdwall 18 күн бұрын
Hi Anton, thank for your great video's. For those who are not scared it might be useful to check what Blavatsky wrote about Layapoints in the unverse ( it is not easy to understand all she has been writing unless with an open mind)
@baomao7243
@baomao7243 18 күн бұрын
I know nearly zero about astrophysics. But as a fields and waves junkie, i wonder if the magnetic fields are really the result of massive flows of charged particles (i.e., current) beginning to circulate around the black hole, resulting in a toroidal magnetic field, which then directs subsequently arriving charged particles into the same inward spiraling trajectory, producing a self-reinforcing toroidal magnetic field. I don’t have a sense for the magnitude of magnetic field so I wonder if the magnetic field is simply a byproduct of the circulation around the black hole -or- if the magnetic field is actually somehow instrumental in creating and maintaining the black hole. If both positive and negative charged particles experience the toroidal magnetic field as they arrive, they would circulate in opposite directions which makes me wonder whether the accretion disc is actually the most powerful particle accelerator in the universe that collides counter-rotating charged beams. Feel free to share your thoughts as i am a casual scientist on this stuff…
@OneLine122
@OneLine122 18 күн бұрын
I'd say it's in part created by the black hole, in part by the things going around it, so the whole galaxy. It's like light, it feeds on itself to move around. The magnetic plane feeds the electric plane and vice versa.
@baomao7243
@baomao7243 18 күн бұрын
@ I actually understand what you mean - Electric field coupled to magnetic field so each drives the other leading to wave propagation. Good old differential eqns. 🙂 Thank you.
@Kaimelar8
@Kaimelar8 17 күн бұрын
I think you're right. I think the magnetic field is showing us the current running into that black hole. It could be a galactic scale plasmoid, a consequence of a Z pinch (or Bennet pinch) on a cosmic scale.
@baomao7243
@baomao7243 17 күн бұрын
@ Thank you
@gravitonthongs1363
@gravitonthongs1363 17 күн бұрын
@@Kaimelar8 it shows the current in the accretion around the black hole, which is not a plasmoid
@BattleAngelFan99
@BattleAngelFan99 18 күн бұрын
YOU're wonderful!
@Daoland-Everywhere
@Daoland-Everywhere 18 күн бұрын
So the magnetig field looks like the Korean national symbol, but i remember there was also this fringe group talking about the electical universe, also often talking about these magnetig properties. So, might they be more right than commonly considered?
@stargazer5784
@stargazer5784 18 күн бұрын
No. The purveyors of the debunked EU hypothesis claim that big stars physically give birth to little stars and planets, and that stars aren't power by nuclear fusion... They claim that gravity and the curvature of space don't exist either, and that it's Birkeland currents that actually control ALL of the processes in the universe, along with numerous other absurd claims made about the field of physics, ad nauseam. It's never been argued that magnetic fields can't or don't play a role in the explanations for some cosmic phenomena. The aurora borealis seen in our atmosphere prove that. HOWEVER, at the end of the day, it's gravity and nuclear fusion that, metaphorically speaking, makes the 'birds sing and the bees hum' in our universe.
@gravitonthongs1363
@gravitonthongs1363 18 күн бұрын
We expect electromagnetic interaction in space. We don’t have any evidence supporting any EU claims against the standard model yet
@nzuckman
@nzuckman 18 күн бұрын
​@@stargazer5784 not all electric universe proponents believe the same things, just like how not all astrophysicists believe in the same type of dark matter. Stop being so reductive.
@RealQinnMalloryu4
@RealQinnMalloryu4 15 күн бұрын
I wish you a happy new years eve and a happy new years day.
@MrDevilman80
@MrDevilman80 18 күн бұрын
1:20 i like how that image almost looks like a fingerprint 😊
@yvonnemiezis5199
@yvonnemiezis5199 18 күн бұрын
Very interesting in many ways❤👍✈
@PetraKann
@PetraKann 18 күн бұрын
Does the geometry or shape of these magnetic field lines reflect the curvature of space-time caused by the black hole itself
@cA7up
@cA7up 18 күн бұрын
Hello wonderful Anton this is person 😮😅
@nickthompson1812
@nickthompson1812 18 күн бұрын
I didn’t know a black holes diet consisted of magnetic waves. What else does it eat, like for breakfast or for a midnight snack?
@thomaslemon7882
@thomaslemon7882 18 күн бұрын
Hope your ok... saw that plane crash in south Korea
@spinnymathingy3149
@spinnymathingy3149 17 күн бұрын
How are magnetic fields detected or seen? What equipment is used ?
@bobjackson6669
@bobjackson6669 18 күн бұрын
Good video.
@NiklasHolsti
@NiklasHolsti 18 күн бұрын
The image that Anton shows at 1:25 is unlikely to be a real SOFIA image, and it does not appear as such in the paper that Anton is presenting. The paper describes a scanning procedure by which SOFIA measured the magnetic field at a grid of points spaced much more widely than the pixels in the image. The figures that Anton shows later, composed of an underlying real image with superposed short black straight lines showing the direction of the magnetic field, represent the real measurements. The image at 1:25 is no doubt an artist's impression of what matter streaming along the field could look like, in the artist's imagination. This is the same confusion that happened more recently with the "images" that purport to show the magnetic fields around a supermassive black hole as "observed" by the Event Horizon Telescope, with narrow black lines spiraling into the hole shadow. Those "images", too, were graphical illustrations of what the field lines might be, extrapolating from a much coarser set of measurements of the magnetic field.
@opoaotoroiocoko
@opoaotoroiocoko 17 күн бұрын
0:07 This is the last chance I give Anton to prove he has something that isn't clickbait.
@opoaotoroiocoko
@opoaotoroiocoko 17 күн бұрын
4:14 yep. Too bad.
@karmlol
@karmlol 14 күн бұрын
I don’t understand the animation, which has all magnetic lines terminating in the black hole, but none pointing out. Wouldn’t that imply magnetic monopoles, which I thought weren’t possible? Or does the maths behind the event horizon provide an exception to that?
@MAGATRON-DESTROY
@MAGATRON-DESTROY 17 күн бұрын
1:29 notice how this this telescope is mounted inside of a jet? Hubble is mounted the same way, not in a satellite. Another strange thing is NASA is the single largest buyer of helium...
@marfmarfalot5193
@marfmarfalot5193 18 күн бұрын
Personally I don’t have any numbers but my intuition says no way could the magnetic fields at any magnitude would be stronger than early universe gravity. So direct collapse still seems most likely to explain SMBH formation
@andrewbrady3139
@andrewbrady3139 18 күн бұрын
Best guess. A heavy mass at the center of the gravity well reset. Angular momentum kept them in a circle at the well limit. Everything closer was pulled in.
@sheldonhutchison2693
@sheldonhutchison2693 17 күн бұрын
Very interesting to see the data and how it is gathered. But it will be a great day when Cosmologists and Astrophysicists learn Maxwell's equations so they can realize that magnetic fields always imply electric current flow. As they follow that thread they should soon come to the realization that black/dark things (holes, matter, energy etc.) are not necessary to explain the things we observe. And such nonsense as neutron stars and magnetic re-connection can be left in the dust bin where they belong. With a ratio of EM strength to gravity of about 10 to the 39th power, massive, inconceivable stars don't need to be invented, galactic rotation can be easily explained, and much more. All without creating fantasy villains.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 16 күн бұрын
Total nonsense. Learn plasma physics. Nobody thinks the puny galactic magnetic fields are anything to do with extant currents. And there are no EM effects that can explain the evidence for dark matter or dark energy. And nobody is proposing any in the scientific literature. Because it is a very silly claim. _"And such nonsense as neutron stars"_ Proven beyond any reasonable doubt. _"magnetic re-connection"_ Which is observed in the lab, in the magnetosphere and on the Sun. Again, proven beyond any doubt. _"With a ratio of EM strength to gravity of about 10 to the 39th power"_ At atomic scales! Lol. We are not dealing with atomic scales in case you hadn't noticed. _"galactic rotation can be easily explained"_ No it can't and nobody has ever shown how it could. Take a ~ charge neutral star. How are EM forces causing its acceleration around a galaxy? Got any maths on that?
@gravitonthongs1363
@gravitonthongs1363 15 күн бұрын
Not necessary, just best at description of reality. Continue learning from reputable sources
@mrazyone
@mrazyone 10 күн бұрын
Interesting.
@rarex50484
@rarex50484 18 күн бұрын
2:23 Antonov?
@NancyRode-u9i
@NancyRode-u9i 18 күн бұрын
🙋🏽‍♀️ anton everyday
@im415again
@im415again 18 күн бұрын
Can you do an episode of what space events will happen in 2025
@joelt2002
@joelt2002 18 күн бұрын
Interestingly this may result in a galactic compass. Something that can potentially be traced to always find the center of the galaxy.
@wwunch
@wwunch 14 күн бұрын
So as it shows divB != 0 and hence we deal with magnetic monopole within central black hole
@gravitonthongs1363
@gravitonthongs1363 8 күн бұрын
Maybe watch again
@maritamachado8710
@maritamachado8710 18 күн бұрын
I think this SMBH have a extreme rotate speed, like magnetars.
@BastilsBlather818
@BastilsBlather818 18 күн бұрын
Hopefully a better well theory gets a little more consideration 😊
@southof.nowhere6096
@southof.nowhere6096 18 күн бұрын
I'm genuinely curious what the process of of imaging magnetic lines is. Like how do we process the light data to determine where the magnetic lines are?
@gravitonthongs1363
@gravitonthongs1363 18 күн бұрын
Polarisation
@Kaimelar8
@Kaimelar8 16 күн бұрын
Yes, as gravitonthongs correctly points out, it's because of polarization of light. When light is emitted it's different wavelengths have random vectors pointing in all directions but when light goes through a magnetic field it gets polarized and you can infer the magnetic field by the polarization.
@gravitonthongs1363
@gravitonthongs1363 16 күн бұрын
@@Kaimelar8 a much better explanation than mine, appreciated 🖖
@Kaimelar8
@Kaimelar8 16 күн бұрын
​@@gravitonthongs1363😊
@Kaimelar8
@Kaimelar8 15 күн бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 😊
@efx245precor3
@efx245precor3 18 күн бұрын
So how exactly do black holes feed on magnetic lines.
@ThePhysicalReaction
@ThePhysicalReaction 18 күн бұрын
I respect how a mutant can't just go "all out" all the time due to metabolic expenditure. but besides that, what is stopping Magneto for continually practising his ferro-magnetic abilities all the time, destroying the very blood of mammals that challenge him? besides his morals of course.
@silentwilly2983
@silentwilly2983 18 күн бұрын
Sofia still operates? I thought it was retired a year or so ago.
@valorwarrior7628
@valorwarrior7628 18 күн бұрын
so the analysis concludes that the Black Hole's "event horizon" is also the magnetosphere of the blackhole itself?
@sc0or
@sc0or 18 күн бұрын
They were born massive, cause dark matter is just a space disturbance (like a dark energy expansion but in opposite direction to attempt to keep a zero sum). A normal matter just felt into such well. Then the expansion slow down, and dips were relaxed into valleys which now shape galaxies.
@BeardedGeezer
@BeardedGeezer 18 күн бұрын
How do you view magnetic flux lines with an optical telescope?
@theOrionsarms
@theOrionsarms 18 күн бұрын
Changes in polarization of light, only the light with the right type of polarity traverse the ionized medium and is received.
@BeardedGeezer
@BeardedGeezer 18 күн бұрын
@@theOrionsarms Thanks for the info. So, something like a polarized filter on a camera?
@theOrionsarms
@theOrionsarms 18 күн бұрын
@BeardedGeezer exactly, you use a filter that alow only the light with a specific polarization to be received, and you know what orientation have the magnetic fields in the emitting medium, or sometimes the traversed ones, (it work in both ways).
@Killer_Kovacs
@Killer_Kovacs 18 күн бұрын
EM Field thermodynamics
@iainnicholson4399
@iainnicholson4399 18 күн бұрын
Sup Anton
@markopecinovic4475
@markopecinovic4475 18 күн бұрын
So a black hole acts like a mono-pole?
@christopherwalls2763
@christopherwalls2763 18 күн бұрын
That’s awesome
@brettturley1940
@brettturley1940 19 күн бұрын
I hope your holidays have been peaceful
@johnsonmaje
@johnsonmaje 17 күн бұрын
Can magnetic fields emit from a blackhole?
@chriscrumly
@chriscrumly 18 күн бұрын
Is there any evidence that the trajectory of the cosmos may follow magnetic lines that directly feed back into the origin of the universe?
@Kwauhn.
@Kwauhn. 18 күн бұрын
I was going to make a monopole joke only to discover it's a quadrupole. The universe is a strange place.
@pepsicolaz
@pepsicolaz 18 күн бұрын
Just saw the news regarding the South Korean plane crash. I hope you and your friends & family are alright. 💙😔
@thomass2935
@thomass2935 18 күн бұрын
Thanks Anton! Love the video Evidence of Magnetic Lines Directly Feeding a Massive Black Hole
@rain4rusty
@rain4rusty 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for not saying those 2 bad words! You really upped your game in this video. Also the topic choice was exactly what I like so thanks again!
@life42theuniverse
@life42theuniverse 18 күн бұрын
Looks like two colliding galactic nuclei to me. Jet 4-2 and 3-1.
@joe1569
@joe1569 18 күн бұрын
A magnetic monopole ?
@costrio
@costrio 18 күн бұрын
So, If a magnetiic field coulf hold a galaxy together, would it lessen the amount of black matter guesstimation?
@blijebij
@blijebij 18 күн бұрын
No, the magnetic field can bring light charged particles to the black hole, but planets and stars is something totally different. Gravity has there a way stronger pull. It would not have a significant pull/or influence there. As it is to weak.
@ericsmith6394
@ericsmith6394 18 күн бұрын
Pretty sure the answer is no. Not because I've compared the numbers but because it would be pretty strange if all the stars somehow aligned themselves such that they feel an inward magnetic pull at all points in their orbit. I don't know how that would happen and how it could be remotely stable.
@nadahere
@nadahere 18 күн бұрын
😅🤣😂😛LOL. Nonsense... again. It all confirms the Plasma Cosmology [Electric Universe theory 🧲⚡] and hence why conventional astrophysicists are stumped...again. 🙃 When one hears 'magnet-whatever', it has to be immediately translated as 'electric-whatever' because... ... ...[wait for it] ... ... electromagnetic theory. Ever heard of this innocuous yet pesky concept? Didn't think so. We in the Plasma Cosmology community understand the origin and nature of these mag fields. The origins are in the nature of the Birkeland currents/filaments of the Cosmic Web that are just now being discovered. The enormous amount of current fluctuates... hence the variability in the stars and EM signals [light, radio, etc]. The 'nucular' theory can't explain this nor other 'mysteries'. HA! Physicists are on the wrong road... still and will be till hell freezes over because... reputation, ego and funding. Ya, science progresses one funeral at a time. Reg. previous 'unexplained' phenomena: BS counter #1] There is no such thing as magnetic lines!!!!!!!!!!‼ and therefore there is nothing to get 'twisted'!!!!!!!! The 'lines' are but our visual representation of mag fields. STOP USING AS A PHYSICAL PHENOMENON.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone uttering this is just showing their scientific ignorance. 🤡 🎪 BS counter #2] Mag fields can't SNAP!!!!!!!!!!!!‼ That's just more scientific ignorance. Geezus!!!!!!! 💩🚽 BS counter #3] Not that I support the existence of the phenomena which the lamestream science calls black holes, but since light and all EM radiation can't exit the event horizon there can't be any bilateral interaction between the BH and the accretion disc.‼ DONE with this theory/notion propounded by this video. But if there was a interaction that caused the BH to stop instantly it would shred/jettison the accretion disc. Has this ever been observed? NO!!!! Please put this fairy tale to rest. 🤦‍♂ See my expanded comments in Anton's previous videos. 🎩
@OneLine122
@OneLine122 18 күн бұрын
It would replace it entirely. I mean black matter IS what hold galaxies together. The more energy is within a system, the more mass it has, so if there is light and plasma moving along those lines, it decreases the amount of dark matter needed. Of course we have no idea how much energy is in there.
@nzuckman
@nzuckman 18 күн бұрын
​@@ericsmith6394 just because it seems weird doesn't mean you should disregard the idea. Stars have a net positive charge of roughly 77 coulombs per solar mass, and the math to show this is actually pretty simple!
@jamesalec1321
@jamesalec1321 18 күн бұрын
Maybe that's the way Black Holes pull mass into itself?
@garg1961
@garg1961 18 күн бұрын
A black hole is not what we assume it is.
@digitalplayland
@digitalplayland 18 күн бұрын
The future of astronomy is in outer space. True.
@beardedroofer
@beardedroofer 18 күн бұрын
Cool.
@johnselle4018
@johnselle4018 17 күн бұрын
You don't get magnetic fields without an electric current. The shape you are seeing is a plasmoid being organized by powerful magnetic fields generated by a large Burkeland Current.
@gravitonthongs1363
@gravitonthongs1363 17 күн бұрын
..said no reputable scientist
@nzuckman
@nzuckman 16 күн бұрын
​@@gravitonthongs1363 no reputable scientist before Kepler thought the planets orbited on ellipses. 🙄
@gravitonthongs1363
@gravitonthongs1363 16 күн бұрын
⁠​⁠@@nzuckman that is the type of unscientific assumption I expect from a narrow mind, but it was likely a suspicion from Galileo first. Electric Universe has been selling the same plasmoid story for decades with no success, so it is a poor comparison to a theory that was supported by scientists.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 16 күн бұрын
@@gravitonthongs1363 Said no scientist of any stripe! Just a bunch of unqualified mythologists.
@WholeLotta-xg9qb
@WholeLotta-xg9qb 9 күн бұрын
​@@davejones7632you and gravitonthongs should date. Dave is clearly the top
@GAMakin
@GAMakin 18 күн бұрын
I prefer to think of a "Black Hole" as neither Black, nor a Hole; but more "like" a TEMPORAL/GRAVITATIONAL Vortex -- which Science likes to promote as "Spherical"; like Stars, planets, and other "FAMILIAR" Celestial "Particles". Caution: Familiarity breeds contempt but, more often, miscognition. As in Mimetics; i.e.: the relationship between Knowledge and Desire. You know: If words could make wishes come true? 💬** 🐧 **[There is SOMETHING happening there but we don't know what it is. Do we, Mr. Jones?]
@hansnelsen3960
@hansnelsen3960 18 күн бұрын
Maybe this is the question you're answering, but why is it hard to explain how a black hole grew so quickly in the very center of a galaxy? Seems to idiots like me it just sucks up stuff around it real fast, no? For some reason it is thought it cannot happen that fast, presumably calculating its mass vs the mass of stuff nearby, exactly how near by, other factors, like what? age? etc. One imagines black hole that ate everything near by, there is nothing left, and it is alone. Would it be invisible? Black? Would Hawking radiation be visible?
@TreeLuvBurdpu
@TreeLuvBurdpu 18 күн бұрын
Magnetic fields? I wonder what would cause that. What causes magnetic fields? Maybe it's a bunch of magnets.
@Kaimelar8
@Kaimelar8 17 күн бұрын
Electricity, of course!
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 16 күн бұрын
MHD effects on pre-existing 'seed fields'. Read the literature.
@TreeLuvBurdpu
@TreeLuvBurdpu 16 күн бұрын
@davejones7632 magneto hydro dynamics? Isn't that a way of producing, uh, watchamacall. What does that produce again?
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 16 күн бұрын
@@TreeLuvBurdpu Want to try that again? In English?
@TreeLuvBurdpu
@TreeLuvBurdpu 16 күн бұрын
@@davejones7632 you want me to dumb it down for you?
@douglasstrother6584
@douglasstrother6584 18 күн бұрын
In any discussion of Unified Theories, Gravity, Electromagnetism, and the Strong & Weak Nuclear Forces are taken as the four fundamental forces of nature; the first two are part of our everyday, *macroscopic* experiences. It's curious that Electromagnetism has been generally excluded from Cosmology. It makes sense to use *all* of the tools in the toolbox. "Magnetohydrodynamics & Plasma Physics" is discussed in Chapter 10 of Jackson's "Classical Electrodynamics" (2nd edition). Revisiting the concepts in "Cosmical Electrodynamics" by Alfvén & Fälthammar, and "Physics of the Plasma Universe" by Peratt deserves attention, especially in light of contemporary observations from JWST and other observatories.
@gravitonthongs1363
@gravitonthongs1363 18 күн бұрын
It hasn’t been excluded from cosmology, that is just the story you bought into. Gather current information from reputable sources.
@davejones7632
@davejones7632 18 күн бұрын
Peratt's stuff was nonsense. And Alfven lost the plot when it came to galaxy formation and even star formation. Nothing to see there.
@nzuckman
@nzuckman 18 күн бұрын
​@@davejones7632 who are you to say that?
@nzuckman
@nzuckman 18 күн бұрын
​@@gravitonthongs1363 you must not have ever taken an introductory astrophysics course because they love to beat the "electromagnetism isn't important" drum in the textbooks they use 🙄
@gravitonthongs1363
@gravitonthongs1363 18 күн бұрын
@@nzuckmancite one textbook that quotes your pseudoscientific assertion
@benmcreynolds8581
@benmcreynolds8581 18 күн бұрын
So we know how important of a role Photons/Light plays. We know how important Magnetic fields are around our planets & stars in our solar system. So it's gotta play an important role within Galaxies
@jameshurley224
@jameshurley224 18 күн бұрын
Interesting, what about the effects of fields on other objects? Any possibility this may help identify what gravity actually is and what causes it?
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