Gases Hinting At Alien Life Detected in the Atmosphere of Venus

[@Nefville]

A challenge: every time Anton says 'you can learn more about this from a previous video, the link of which is in the description' stop the video and instead watch the video he just referenced. In that video if Anton says it again, do the same, click the next video and so on. What I want to know is how many videos it would take to get to one that doesn't reference an earlier video, aka _the source video,_ because in THAT video, all of the questions of the universe will be answered.

[@economicprisoner]

He typically references more than one previous video: so that would be a tree structure. First layer: ~1+3=4 videos. Second layer: 4+9=13 videos Third layer: 13+27=40 videos.

[@hughlion1817]

XD

[@michalmikulasi5193]

it would be fun if he said that in every single video, including his absolute first one:)

[@putteslaintxtbks5166]

If someone tries that, to find the genesis video, he may find a singularity and time will no have any meaning to him, to us, it will look like they froze!

[@Bearkat87]

Tree three videos

[@ralphstern2845]

That we can detect 3cm of additional rock on top of a volcano on Venus,is mind blowing

[@paddyfoosenschaften]

Thank you! I don’t know how we’re not all in a constant “holy f*ck!!” mood all the got dang time.

[@kspen72]

And still no clue who keeps robbing the local Denny's. 😂

[@richardbigouette3651]

My son will never know the excitement of the first images of the Hubble Deepfield. Maybe when he's my age we'll have the first images of an exoplanet ;).

[@h.c5750]

Dennys is a more complicated environment than venus to be fair😂​@@kspen72

[@johnhough7738]

@@kspen72 There's a Denys on Venus and we weren't informed? Makes good sense though ... them astronauts gotta get refreshments somewhere.

[@Ryukachoo]

The intense irony if it ends up Venus has small colonies of bacteria held aloft in the atmosphere while mars is totally dead

[@user58541]

life on Mars is probably thriving underneath the ground

[@grandadmiralthrawn3494]

@@user58541how do you come to that conclusion? It seems like we don’t know enough to say so confidently.

[@TuberoseKisser]

​@@grandadmiralthrawn3494 they said probably, they weren't stating it "confidentially"

[@1ycan-eu9ji]

we've found bacteria on earth inside rocks hidden there for billions of years, if mars was habitable at some point, they might still be inside rocks, trapped

[@dreddykrugernew]

@@grandadmiralthrawn3494 because 70% of Earths bacteria and archaea is found deep underground...

[@marknovak6498]

I remember back in the 70s a number of scientists suggested that based on atmospheric measurements from probes at the time, there must be volcanism. They were a small minority but they turned out to be right after all.

[@SpeakerWiggin49]

It's a huge jump to go from geological activity hypothesis to a biological activity hypothesis. This phosphene detection is dubious at best.

[@Nefertiti0403]

@@SpeakerWiggin49Maybe not

[@Nefertiti0403]

@@SpeakerWiggin49Jumping to conclusions I see

[@cacogenicist]

@@marknovak6498 I don't know why anyone would assume there wasn't volcanism. Venus is close to the same mass as Earth, and considering that little Mars is volcanic without plate subduction, why wouldn't Venus generate volcanism?

[@marknovak6498]

@@cacogenicist In retrospect it makes sense once we find fact. But it the absence of compelling facts, the most persuasive people tend to win out with their views.

[@dt9r]

Anton saying 'finally the evidence Aliens exist' is my dream

[@dunnagan5]

That’s when you know 100% for sure.

[@iburuma3621]

"Hello wonderful person, this is Anton, and aliens have been discovered. Thank you for watching, stay wonderful I'll see you tomorrow"

[@simonebernacchia]

He might not saying even if he was on Venus and life forms crawling over its body: "we need more evidence"

[@babstra55]

all these things ARE evidence of alien life, they're just not proof. evidence doesn't mean proof. conversely, when people invariably manufacture a new hypothetical geological process to pin this on, and they will, it's not proof that this isn't life. the systemic bias to never finding proof of alien life is SO massive no remote detection can ever overcome it, only seeing it with human eyes can. and even then people will come up with even more complex theories to claim it's somehow a mutated earth contamination. there's very little that can overcome the "it's never aliens" bias short of one coming and punching people in the face. for all we know life was found already in the 70s both on mars and venus, and we've just used 50 years coming up with a zoo of complex hypothetical alterior explanations for every single life sign we find. I often wonder if the findings of those 70s pioneers will be acknowledged as first discoveries after/if we find the atmosphere/terrain they observed is filled with bacterial life.

[@noob19087]

I want him to say it in the exact same tone of voice as usual too.

[@editingtimothy]

Hello Anton, This will probably get lost in the comment section, but you were my childhood when I was into astronomy. Thank you for your amazing content!

[@E.Hunter.Esquire]

If Anton was your childhood, you're still a child 😂😂😂😂

[@editingtimothy]

@@E.Hunter.Esquire I watched him in his earliest videos when he still had a few thousand followers when he was doing Minecraft, Amnesia, and later Universe Sandbox. He played a small part in my childhood, but still a part. I was 5-7 when I found out about him. If you look, those videos are 11-10 years old. I'm a teenager ❤️

[@E.Hunter.Esquire]

@@editingtimothy yes you are still a child, my friend :) enjoy your teen years as much as you can, and don't let anyone get to you. When you're older, you'll spend much of the time wishing you could go back.

[@XBadger1]

Anton, this will be lost in the comment section but you were my astronomy go to when I was in my early 40s. Thank you for the amazing content

[@silaskuira9124]

​@@editingtimothyDon't grow up too fast. Enjoy being a child.

[@homoblogicus7899]

Without a doubt one of the best content creators on KZbin!

[@debbiesimmons3081]

My dad worked on those Pioneer missions and was incredibly excited to find evidence of 'life promoting molecules'. He always said that in about a billion years when Venus was a bit further away from the sun, they would become actual life. He also said that there were many volcanos because it's bloody hot there, so I don't know why that's a surprise.

[@jige1225]

@@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd Yes, ok, what's your point?

[@johnhough7738]

Some used to believe that Venus was a 'water planet' in much the same way as Mars had canals. To each his own ...

[@shnoogums1]

If they do find life in Venus’s atmosphere and deep in mars surface, that “life uh finds a way” meme is gunna take off

[@matthewtalbot6505]

I’m rooting for it to be Venusian acidic extremophiles. Living 50 miles in the sky within sulphuric acid clouds? That’s just being Built Different

[@jamiedoe6822]

Right

[@manueloliveira200]

When Anton says it might be Aliens, I get very, very excited. very interesting

[@a.m.7438]

Now less scared of bears and tigers and am more scared of whatever the fuck is out there surviving Venus.

[@TheJadeFist]

Probably air borne "algae" it might be toxic but it ain't gonna hunt you down or anything.

[@adamhaze8477]

Oh my! You missed out lions.

[@cozmothemagician7243]

@@adamhaze8477 we have all seen the movie, the lion was nothing to be scared of

[@nycheeseburger1011]

It’s just waiting to hitch a ride to earth!

[@MDE_never_dies]

I’m not 😐

[@benderisgreat95able]

For the phosphene to be present in the most theoretically habitable zone of Venus is a happy coincidence in our favor.

[@floridaman4073]

Need a probe to go get a possible sample.

[@bobbun9630]

Considering the atmosphere is almost entirely carbon dioxide, you might well die just as fast in that "most theoretically habitable zone" of Venus as you would in a vacuum, if forced to endure the environment without life support gear. Only the temperature, pressure, and gravity are similar to the surface of the Earth.

[@m.streicher8286]

​@@bobbun9630 yeah "you" would die really quick on Venus, that same principle is not universal to life. At least we have no reason to think it is.

[@death5talker45]

Come On...We All Know It's From Venusian Cockroaches....Those Bastards Can Survive Anywhere 😂😂😂

[@bobbun9630]

@@dbptwg Right. However, there's a bit of an assumption when you identify a spot as being earthlike in some way that being earthlike makes it more suitable for life. Looking at just how unearthlike these places actually are is quite relevant when it comes to examining your assumptions.

[@SteelRyan]

The craziest possibility here is actually that the soviets accidentally life-seeded with their Venus missions in the 60s, 70s and 80s. We would have to come to terms with another planet being just now reshaped by life and we have no way to stop it which is both fascinating and terrifying.

[@clocked0]

Oooo

[@SomeUncomm]

Hah, I was thinking the same thing. Mostly because it seems odd that microbial life could evolve naturally while suspended in the air, but maybe that's just my personal ignorance. For all I know the chemistry could work more easily. But if not, it must have come from somewhere...

[@chocopappy]

So life is the Grey goo from science fiction, constantly working to infect other worlds. And we are the machines the goo constructs as interplanetary pollinators. Life's resilience and our desire to explore were programmed in by our creators. Great lovecraftian book idea...

[@stevenscalco5598]

I'd be very surprised if anything from Earth could live there. but life does find a way. still very unlikely but a lovely thought experiment.

[@lasarith2]

While I’m not disagreeing with you , I’m fairly certain they said it was sterilised to prevent that happening…..But…..

[@PhilipClarke-om3mi]

Thanks

[@robertfindley921]

My biggest wish is that they find definitive signs of life outside the Earth in my lifetime. That and the Detroit Lions to win the Superbowl.

[@blazedgamingkr]

I want a Browns v Lions SB. The battle would be legendary

[@Rudyard_Stripling]

Here is a hint for you, The Soviet Union's Venera 13 lander survived on Venus's surface for 127 minutes, which was almost three times longer than its planned design life of 32 minutes. The lander touched down on March 1, 1982 at 03:57 UTC and continued to transmit data until 06:04 UTC. During its time on the surface, the lander took color photos of the planet and analyzed a soil sample. Venera 13's ability to survive for so long was due to its rugged design, which was more similar to a deep-sea submarine than other landers. Exploring Venus's surface is difficult because of the planet's intense heat and crushing air pressure, which can melt and crush landers. he lander survived for 127 minutes (the planned design life was 32 minutes) in an environment with a temperature of 457 degrees C and a pressure of 89 Earth atmospheres. The descent vehicle transmitted data to the bus, which acted as a data relay as it flew by Venus. There is no life on Venus.

[@mariofeds1101]

@@Rudyard_Stripling we arent talking about the surface

[@Rudyard_Stripling]

@@mariofeds1101 Hello, you can't get underground without going through the surface lmao.

[@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88]

​@@Rudyard_Stripling um, this is about the atmosphere not the surface or below. The theory is that since we find bacteria held aloft in Earth's atmosphere there's a chance that colonies survive in Venus's atmosphere as well. I doubt it, personally. It is more likely chemistry we don't understand that's happening on Venus. But we find life everywhere we look on Earth. If it _did_ start on Venus there's always the chance it is still there.

[@Poppyrae]

First off thank you Anton you are a true gem in this world spreading your love and passion for science especially in fields most people struggle or have a base knowledge of. Your one of my favorite channels always make me excited when I see a new video pop. Up I truly admire your dedication and passion to spread this amazing knowledge and break it down so people can learn and understand without dumbing it down so it’s inaccurate. We all appreciate the love and positivity you have my friend

[@janekbrat6951]

Would be a hell of a plot twist, if venus happens to host a vibrant biosphere and that soviet surface probe from the seventies, just managed to land in the venus equivalent of the gobi desert.

[@williamwilkins8037]

I just want to say I appreciate how often you upload videos! There are others I watch that I watch all the videos they do but I still wouldn't say I watch them daily because they don't upload videos like that. Your the only one I can say that I watch on a near daily basis! And every one of your videos are so informative and it's always stuff I want to be hearing about or something I've thought about and pondered on

[@tothzoltan3993]

Dear Anton Wonderfulperson Petrov! God bless you! You’re awesome. Thank you for all of your work!

[@Conclusius68]

Anton: "It's never aliens, but maybe, just maybe in this case, it could be..." Lando Calrisian: "Oh shoot, they found us".

[@u.v.s.5583]

Donald Trump: "I will stop the war with the aliens by blasting them out of this universe!"

[@SailingSoWhat]

Even if it's life, I would bet on bacteria originating from earth, not true aliens.

[@DeadSparko]

​@@u.v.s.5583 also Donald trump: My ear My ear!

[@JosePineda-cy6om]

@Clayne151 does it matter? Earth, Venus and Mars have been exchanging rocks for billions of years. Regardless of who had life first, there's a big possibility of a "contagion" to the other sister plantes.

[@chickendmac9085]

Had to click instantly, i remember hearing so much hype about this in highschool, and im glad to deal with the hype again during the middle of college

[@seionne85]

Nice! Going into a stem field?

[@chickendmac9085]

@@seionne85 mechanical engineering, but biology ( especially speculative ) is always fascinating

[@sirLJson]

I mostly use YT for educational purposes and for whatever reason I have only now discovered your channel. I love your content. Thanks!

[@samueltrusik3251]

We really need some sort of probe to study the atmosphere specifically. Like a hot air ballon, or something.

[@oberonpanopticon]

We did, 40 years ago

[@terrymckenzie8786]

@@oberonpanopticonand ……

[@oberonpanopticon]

@@terrymckenzie8786Ig they didn’t have much equipment on them cuz I can’t find anything about the results of the program. 🤷

[@Rudyard_Stripling]

No hope for life in Venus clouds, but maybe on Jupiter, study suggests. The amount of water in the atmosphere of Venus is so low that even the most drought-tolerant of Earth's microbes wouldn't be able to survive there, a new study has found. The findings seem to wipe out the hope stirred by last year's discovery of molecules potentially created by living organisms in the scorched planet's atmosphere that were seen as an indication of the possible presence of life. The new study looked at measurements from probes that flew through the atmosphere of Venus and acquired data about temperature, humidity and pressure in the thick sulphuric acid clouds surrounding the planet. From these values, the scientists were able to calculate the so-called water activity, the water vapor pressure inside the individual molecules in the clouds, which is one of the limiting factors for the existence of life on Earth. "When we looked at the effective concentration of water molecules in those clouds, we found that it was a hundred times too low for even the most resilient Earth organisms to survive." John Hallsworth, a microbiologist at Queen's University in Belfast, U.K., and lead author of the paper, said in a news conference on Thursday (June 24). "That's an unbridgeable distance." The findings are likely a disappointment for the Venus research community, which was invigorated last September by the discovery of phosphine, a compound made of atoms of phosphorus and hydrogen that on Earth can be associated with living organisms, in Venus' atmosphere. At that time, researchers suggested the phosphines may be produced by microorganisms residing in those clouds. On Earth, Hallsworth said, microorganisms can survive and proliferate in droplets of water in the atmosphere when temperatures allow. However, the findings of the new study, based on data from several Venus probes, leave zero chance of anything living in the clouds of Venus, he said. "Living systems including microorganisms are composed mainly of water and without being hydrated, they can't be active and are unable to proliferate," Hallsworth said.

[@stevenscalco5598]

good idea.

[@susanlisson7066]

I just wanted to say thank you for not putting subtitles over your videos like so many others do now.

[@joz6683]

I believe that Venus has life. The inferred deficiency in the upper atmosphere is caused by particles the same size as bacteria and archaea. Archaea are extremophiles they could survive in Venus atmosphere. Some bacteria also perform anoxygenic photosynthesis, which uses split hydrogen sulfide as a reductant instead of water, producing sulfur instead of oxygen.

[@Astras-Stargate]

Nice to see a focused astronomical study of Venus. Thanks Anton!

[@Mr.Agnost]

Venus is the brightest object that can be seen from naked eye after Sun and Moon.

[@HolographNamedJames]

Anton, your hard work is most appreciated! Even though we’ve never met, feels like we’ve been friends from a previous life!

[@copperdragon9041]

When we do identify life, we will suddenly identify it everywhere and wonder why we doubted it.

[@stevenscalco5598]

true. very true.

[@HistorybyLeo]

I don't think most people are doubting it as much anymore this day and age.

[@jackdorward]

Just realised I’ve got u playing on my phone and on my laptop with two different videos looking at two totally different things while I tidy the house XD good job guy u got me

[@saturdaysequalsyouth]

Haven’t we been down this road before?

[@DontTrustThemSnakes]

No

[@prophetzarquon]

Yes, pretty much every test we've devised to check for chemical signatures of life, almost anywhere, has found those signatures, & then we have to figure out what nonbiological process can explain it.

[@mutantfutures]

Anton you are the most adorable person in the solar system. And a first rate science communicator.

[@MyraSeavy]

Hello Anton!! 😊

[@jim.franklin]

Great post Anton, thanks, this is getting more and more intriguing every year. Long overdue for an atmospheric mission - balloon - to explore the temperate region of the atmosphere, as a minimum we will learn about exotic chemistry, but there is that outside chance of finding non- terrestrial organisms that may help us better understand how life forms and evolves, opening a door that is currently locked shut.

[@ChrisVillagomez]

Something that always made me wonder is what would multi-cellular life be like, living up in Venus' atmosphere? There's a Star Wars book that's like an animal atlas of species on planets we see in the movies like the Sarlaac on Tatooine and Thrantas from Alderaan. They have a small section dedicated to the life living in the clouds of Bespin, which is the gas giant with a sort of breathable atmosphere that Cloud City floats in, and all of the life forms float, glide, or fly in honestly some of the most magical Star Wars images I think I've ever seen. Perhaps life would be sort of like that on Venus, or it could just be floating bacteria or algae

[@AmonTheWitch]

most like they would float, since they'd need to rest at some point otherwise

[@Lazmanarus]

In 1971 Arthut C. Clarke wrote a short story about life forms living in the clouds of Jupiter. More recently, Dennis E. Taylor wrote a story that some people found life forms in the clouds of an extra-solarJovian planet. I'm sure other stories have been written by other authors about that type of lifeform.

[@Rudyard_Stripling]

No hope for life in Venus clouds, but maybe on Jupiter, study suggests. The amount of water in the atmosphere of Venus is so low that even the most drought-tolerant of Earth's microbes wouldn't be able to survive there, a new study has found. The findings seem to wipe out the hope stirred by last year's discovery of molecules potentially created by living organisms in the scorched planet's atmosphere that were seen as an indication of the possible presence of life. The new study looked at measurements from probes that flew through the atmosphere of Venus and acquired data about temperature, humidity and pressure in the thick sulphuric acid clouds surrounding the planet. From these values, the scientists were able to calculate the so-called water activity, the water vapor pressure inside the individual molecules in the clouds, which is one of the limiting factors for the existence of life on Earth. "When we looked at the effective concentration of water molecules in those clouds, we found that it was a hundred times too low for even the most resilient Earth organisms to survive." John Hallsworth, a microbiologist at Queen's University in Belfast, U.K., and lead author of the paper, said in a news conference on Thursday (June 24). "That's an unbridgeable distance." The findings are likely a disappointment for the Venus research community, which was invigorated last September by the discovery of phosphine, a compound made of atoms of phosphorus and hydrogen that on Earth can be associated with living organisms, in Venus' atmosphere. At that time, researchers suggested the phosphines may be produced by microorganisms residing in those clouds. On Earth, Hallsworth said, microorganisms can survive and proliferate in droplets of water in the atmosphere when temperatures allow. However, the findings of the new study, based on data from several Venus probes, leave zero chance of anything living in the clouds of Venus, he said. "Living systems including microorganisms are composed mainly of water and without being hydrated, they can't be active and are unable to proliferate," Hallsworth said.

[@prophetzarquon]

Sagan, too. & also what's-his-name's guide to extraterrestrials.

[@Rudyard_Stripling]

@@prophetzarquon Sagan died in 96, that is 28 years ago, little outdated don't you think? Carl Sagan (1934-1996) - NASA Science

[@wilsonquevedo8711]

great vid Anton, this are my favourite ones, pure scientific data open to deabte witouth any previous assmption or bias!!!exciting news!

[@llewcunedda4528]

It would be fascinating and simultaneously disappointing if alien life lives on Venus but it also turned out to be related to Earth life.

[@manachromeYT]

Could still be exciting as because Venus cooled slightly quicker due to lower mass that would more likely than not mean we aren't earthlings but instead venuslings deposited here along time ago

[@oberonpanopticon]

Of course, it’d raise the question: Which planet did life start on first?

[@Gelatinocyte2]

If life on Venus ended up being related to Earth, it might have been unknowingly seeded by Soviet probes.

[@Joe-jv5mm]

There's Always the Possibility that Earth has Seeded life throughout our local Solar system, Case in point meteorites from Mar's, found on the Antarctic ice sheets, Pansperima theory

[@glorymanheretosleep]

Almost all life should work in the same processes as the life on Earth....think about it.

[@johnrickard8512]

On earth-class planets, the presence of phosphene alongside ammonia is usually what does it.

[@freemanshackled]

It sucks getting old and seeing these cool things and hearing oh that's many years from now. Astronomy is a young person's game. *sigh* lol

[@drmachinewerke1]

Yes but we had the best Science fiction books

[@cozmothemagician7243]

@@drmachinewerke1 RAH 's revolution on the moon in the Moon is a Harsh Mistress beats the Stat Wars rebels any day IMO.

[@chris7263]

I feel that. I'm only 39, but when they talk about 5 years, 10 years, and that's just for the next thing, the thing they'll do in response if they find something cool will be another long wait.... I feel time slipping away from me. I wonder how much I'll get to see.

[@seanivore]

You always mention previous videos in the description and I’m like I know I know I remember I saw I saw !!

[@johndonson1603]

I’m nearly 60 years old , if they don’t find life somewhere in the next decade I probably won’t be around to see it .😔

[@T0mbuc3et]

Let’s hope we find it soon

[@jondonnelly3]

Keep youself healthy. Aim for 90

[@mickmiah7605]

TY Anton. Really interesting stuff.

[@cacogenicist]

While there isn't a volcano presently erupting, there could easily be fumaroles and such active on Mars right this very second. There have been relatively recent eruptions on Mars at the Cerberus Fossae area, and probably other regions. Mars' volcanism is by no means dead.

[@prophetzarquon]

And here I was hoping we could pull out that nickel-iron rich core.

[@cacogenicist]

​@@prophetzarquon- 😊 there are plenty of nickel-iron core fragments out in the main belt -- from planetoids that got massive enough to become spherical and differentiated, but then were subsequently smashed up. Mars seems to have ongoing mantle plumes. Eruptions are nowhere near as common as they were a couple billion years ago, but they are still happening occasionally.

[@romeropinto7704]

You can always count on JMG for a goose bump inducing mind blow 💯

[@u.v.s.5583]

You have fallen into Event Horizon. And today our guest is Professor Avi Loeb who has just published a paper on Oumuamua as the most likely source of ammonia and phosphine on Venus! Professor, are there signs of buttons of extragalactic technological origin on the Venusian phosphine molecules and should we push them? Edit. I love and admire both JMG and AL very much. Our world badly needs more people like them.

[@bobbun9630]

It's funny how the headline always has to emphasize "possible life" rather than "interesting chemistry", when the latter is what has been discovered.

[@mabonbran8913]

Interesting chemistry that could indicate possible life... Finding mdma would be interesting chemistry that could indicate Venus was a party planet...

[@SylvanNewby]

idk man phosphene is a biomarker for sure so the title stands on its merit

[@bobbun9630]

@@SylvanNewby Phosphine. Phosphenes are bright spots in your vision, for example when you rub your eyes. Anyway, all pedantry aside, it's only a "biomarker" because life is how the phosphine we see on Earth originates and we lack explanations for how it might exist in other situations. However, ignorance is never evidence. Conditions are very different on Venus. The atmosphere doesn't contain molecular oxygen, and elemental phosphorus would be a gas under Venus's high temperature conditions. The conditions are different, so it should come as no surprise that the outcomes are different. "Possible life" is one of the more unlikely possibilities for many reasons and thus shouldn't be the first one we reach for.

[@goobytron2888]

Everything is chemistry. Life is pretty interesting chemistry.

[@bobbun9630]

@@goobytron2888 Yes. But most interesting chemistry is not life.

[@mandelbraught2728]

I seem to remember the phosphene detection being basically completely dismissed as error when it was first detected. I feel like there's a lesson here. Just because someone comes up with a plausible alternative explanation, that is not the same as evidence.

[@fritz46]

7:10 - 3 to 20 meters deep, not centimeters! The latter seems way to little, compared to what volcanoes on Earth erupt in a few hours, so I checked the source.

[@yvonnemiezis5199]

Very interesting discoveries, beautiful pictures ,and great presentation👍❤

[@Alucard0831]

Love your videos!

[@craigsavarese4554]

It seems that it would be easy enough to create a probe able to “float” in the temperate zone to conduct extended experiments/observations.

[@rustinpeace770]

How to get me to click instantly: put ‘Alien’ in the title

[@Jagzeplin]

youtubers know this

[@williamwillaims]

He doesn't like talking about Aliens much though... he's not a "fan"

[@oleksandrbyelyenko435]

Alien just means foreign, otherworldly. Nothing about gray men and stuff

[@ZombieSnax42069]

Wait a second, if we invade their biosphere, aren't we the aliens and literally abducting them? 🤔

[@craigdaubbeats-rapinstrume9185]

​@@williamwillaimsEveryone that watches this channel knows this. We know if he confirms it it must be real. That's why we click on his specifically.

[@kersplak]

good video Anton as usual

[@king_dot]

Venus really needs much more attention, it’s so much more promising than mars

[@blueberrygod8275]

How will the suits people wear be able to stand the heat? There was a soviet probe that already went there and got instantly cooked.

[@urphakeandgey6308]

Even colonizing Venus seems more promising in some regards, due to the nearly identical gravity and such. Only problem is they'd have to be floating cities, so I still think something like an O'Neill Cylinder will actually be where most humans live in the future. If we're still human.

[@Rudyard_Stripling]

Here is a hint for you, The Soviet Union's Venera 13 lander survived on Venus's surface for 127 minutes, which was almost three times longer than its planned design life of 32 minutes. The lander touched down on March 1, 1982 at 03:57 UTC and continued to transmit data until 06:04 UTC. During its time on the surface, the lander took color photos of the planet and analyzed a soil sample. Venera 13's ability to survive for so long was due to its rugged design, which was more similar to a deep-sea submarine than other landers. Exploring Venus's surface is difficult because of the planet's intense heat and crushing air pressure, which can melt and crush landers. he lander survived for 127 minutes (the planned design life was 32 minutes) in an environment with a temperature of 457 degrees C and a pressure of 89 Earth atmospheres. The descent vehicle transmitted data to the bus, which acted as a data relay as it flew by Venus. There is no life on Venus.

[@sysbofh]

The hellish part is to make something that stays working for more than a couple of hours. The hull is easy. The pressure is easy. The sulfuric acid is easy too. Batteries are easy too (molten salt battery). The surface temperature... ah, yes. Here we hit a little snag. We don't have electronics able to stand that heat (450C), and I don't know if is possible to pump all that heat away, going against... all that heat! We were researching diamond based CPUs and whatnot, but as far as I know, nothing came out of it. Yet.

[@blueberrygod8275]

​@Rudyard_Stripling Then we would need an astronaut suit that also doubles as an atmospheric diving suit that can withstand crushing pressure, and someway to cool the f out of the wearer to prevent him from being crisped.

[@logicalhorizons547]

I don’t like how some people cut to the chase that there’s no life but at least they try and prove if there is

[@ianb9028]

As exciting as this is we should consider the possibility that one of our previous probes has seeded unicellular life on Venus.

[@Jamex07]

Hydrofluorocarbons can be used in the venusian atmosphere to resist the acidic conditions in the atmosphere and fluorine is present at every altitude on venus.

[@mounyenclifton7320]

Love your explanations and observations because it helps me understand these new discoveries better. Thank you.🎉

[@Caspenar]

That phosphene discovery is really becoming a big thing if there are mission being planned to investigate further.

[@jimcurtis9052]

Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 👍☺️

[@bettywing52]

Alien life on Venus probably formed under conditions like the Earth's undersea trenches, where the incredible temperatures and pressures were ideal for the microorganisms that support the food chain there. Very intriguing to possibly find atmospheric evidence of their presence.

[@BBoldGaming]

And in school I would damn near get kicked out for talking about micro alien life on Venus …

[@hansjorgkunde3772]

They do not teach you what is there, but what they think it should be there. Every great progress in Science had to fought and defended against a plethora of people who knew better. This has to do with the Human nature of rejecting everything that is a threat to the existing picture of the world. Sometimes knowledge collides with religious ideas. Wich led to the ultimate divide of Science and Church. Galileo Galilei who found out that Earth is NOT the middle point of the Universe but circles around the Sun had real problems with the Church. But even later, the theory of continental shift, while obvious if you look at the map of South America and Africa got brushed away with 'Continents don't move' So the counsel i can give, don't watch TV it makes you become dumb and passive. Look for questions, and answers on your own. You'll find a universe never seen before.

[@BBoldGaming]

@@hansjorgkunde3772 hey thank you for that.. those are some really good words

[@hansjorgkunde3772]

@@BBoldGaming You're welcome. Don't let other decide what is true.

[@BBoldGaming]

@@hansjorgkunde3772 📌

[@djdrack4681]

bacterial spores can stay dormant in soils for 100s to 1000s of years. Its possible bacterial life on MArs/Venus could be 'dormant' due to lack of sugars/fuel. We should send a probe that has all the 15-25 ish 'major types of -oses that are used here on Earth: from Glucose/Galactose to Ribose/Cellulose, Mannose, etc.

[@fredwood1490]

Here's a strange thought: What if there are water droplets in the mid level atmosphere, condensed from just above and for some reason, resistant to the sulphuric acid or partly so. Organic life in egg form, with a thick shell that would melt in water, but otherwise just floats on the air currents at this level, meets a droplet, merges with it and begins chemosynthesis and its life cycle. As that droplet merges with other droplets, more space is acquired, perhaps with another life form, to feed on or join with or just to have drinks. As more and more droplets join, the drop gets heavier and begins to fall. Leaving the "temperate zone", getting hotter, cooking the lifeforms inside, until there is cellular breakdown as all the water evaporates. This would make a layer of disrupted organic material and, possibly, eggs laid before the older lifeform died, As thermals rise, the detritus rises with it, back into the temperate zone, making nuclei for new water droplets, perhaps even neutralizing the excess acid around it, making a new home for a new lifeform. A rain cycle/life cycle of sorts.

[@Purplebruh]

Anton, i think you should cover the cancellation of the Viper rover

[@Yellowsupercar420]

Finally some real science

[@lauravillanueva2175]

So it appears.. despite the viewpoint of those who live there.” One smiles upon the attention, Anton:) Brilliant video.” : LEv

[@RobertBrown-i4r]

Life will find a way -- not just here on tiny Earth

[@amoremorte3330333]

The saying " life will find a way" refers to life being able to adapt or evolve to an extreme environment. But doesn't say anything about life starting from scratch. Which seems much much more difficult then thought.

[@Gary-zq3pz]

That would be life like nothing we've ever even thought of before...

[@danieltal3d]

Thank you again!

[@leadbreastplate7496]

The answer is no. There is no life in the atmosphere of Venus.

[@robertsteele474]

​@@leadbreastplate7496 Have you been there, LeadHead?

[@leadbreastplate7496]

@@robertsteele474 where Venus? Are you kidding?

[@robertsteele474]

@@leadbreastplate7496 No I serious!🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@leadbreastplate7496]

@@robertsteele474 are you tho?

[@Duckfisher0222]

Speculation, but interesting. At the very least, we need to study this to determine if our search for life on other planets cannot be influenced by other natural processes. Thanks wonderful Anton!

[@Tokirumi]

if there’s life on mars, venus, and some jupiter’s water moon, this just proves life is actually extremely common and we’re most likely not the only intelligent species in the universe

[@whattheflyingfuck...]

maybe life originates in the solar system only, and spread from one planet to the next if any form of life is able to develop outside of earth it would be more likely that it explodes in whole ecosystems, than staying just one singular organism species that popped up somewhere for a one-man-show

[@mclovin69420xo]

Life on those planets will never be as complex as on earth, bacterial life can be common but for intelligent life forms like us, very unlikely

[@oberonpanopticon]

It’d only prove life was common. It’d just shift the problem to _intelligent_ life

[@EL_DUDERIN0]

This is super interesting either way, since one theory on the requisite for life is liquid water, since it coalesces on the surface (like the Earth). However a thin layer of atmosphere (56-58 km above on Venus) might be a similar concept!

[@neppilthen00b27]

Russia was right to keep studying Venus.

[@Gelatinocyte2]

You mean the Soviet Union, which does not exist anymore?

[@copperdragon9041]

Better that than murdering its neighbours that it does regularly.

[@douglaswilkinson5700]

The SU also had a political reason to study Venus: to do something the USA was not doing.

[@cookiemonster3147]

You have a great channel Anton! God bless you.

[@blizmak9889]

It's probably hitchhikers from the Russian lander. Imagine a few bacteria from Earth that make their way to Venus and thrive in the upper atmosphere.

[@matthewtalbot6505]

I would think even most known extremophiles would be hard pressed to survive the trip from Earth to Venus. It’d have to survive exiting the atmosphere, several months of hard vacuum and ionizing solar radiation and cosmic rays, reentry into the Venusian atmosphere, and then cling to survival amidst clouds of sulphuric acid, and then thrive enough to cause atmospheric changes observable from earth decades later. It isn’t *impossible*, but if these observations are biologic in origin, they would likely be native to Venus.

[@henrihamalainen300]

​@@matthewtalbot6505 Life is surprisingly resilient. When NASA retrieved the camera they left on moon on earlier flights they found bacteria and even tardigrades still alive on it. Avoiding contamination is also the main reason why Mars rovers have intentionally avoided most likely places for finding life as its extremely hard to sterilize the vehicle entirely. As such it is entirely possible that the Soviet probe brought life to Venus although it's more likely that if there is life it's going to be native.

[@objective_psychology]

No, not probably. Whatever was on that probe was likely sterilized and not an extremophile. If Earth life made its way onto Venus it could have done so from any one of countless millions of meteor fragments from impacts on Earth over the course of the last 4 billion years.

[@mctaguer]

Crazy. In the same day you post this, word of the new minerals found on Mars also possibly indicating life!

[@AnalyticalReckoner]

Im still skeptical until we observe an actual alien lifeform.

[@Rbourk252]

Mind plowing prospect for how life could potentially exist between physical borders.

[@mobilephil244]

All just wishful thinking. Venus's chemistry is EXTREME and likely to create all kinds of compounds we don't see on earth.

[@UghIHateTheseThings]

Very true, however, finding the answer is still always fun :)

[@Name-di3ku]

More and more we are finding life in extreme and previously assumed to be 'uninhabitable' environments. People are becoming more and more open to the idea of life on other planets. People are also certain we are the only intelligent life forms in the universe. Anybody see a problem? You never know what you dont know

[@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG]

If anyone's interested, I'm building a spacecraft based on a Costco Family-sized box of Arm & Hammer; I think it could work...

[@happyshadow]

Count me in, what should I bring?

[@marko-1987]

Good shout.

[@happyshadow]

@logicalmusicman5081 I don't have those, I have a pet giraffe though. Will she need a helmet?

[@rimbusjift7575]

What you smokin for fuel?

[@happyshadow]

@@rimbusjift7575 krak

[@h14hc124]

There's a fine line between 'exotic chemistry' and 'life'.

[@erasmus_locke]

Give Venus another 2-3 billion years and it'll be teaming with life. I'm calling it now

[@dingickso4098]

Forgive my scepticism, but I doubt it would happen. The possibilities would be extinguished by the sun eventually becoming a red giant.

[@manjsher3094]

Love Anton waiting for ThunderfOOt tho.

[@geraldeichstaedt]

I'd prefer to see at least a five sigma statistical confidence for the abundances of the presumed detection of those gases, and systematic errors and calibration artifacts ruled out. We have seen methane on Mars over decades with an abundance a function of the sensitivity of the detection method. With the sensitivity increasing by a factor of 1,000, the abundance of CH4 also reduced by a factor of 1,000, always just at the detection limit. So, I'd say wait and see.

[@soldaat-van-oranje]

Anton the best.

[@steefweet]

'Best' is een achterhaald concept. Helender is jezelf deel voelen van een ander; andermens' gedachten. Prijs geven werkt effectiefst wanneer je toelichting geeft. Anders is het eigenlijk niks anders dan groupie gedrag. What in particular that Anton said in this video made you (want to) comment what you commented?

[@soldaat-van-oranje]

@@steefweet wat lul jij slap. Niks te doen of zo zo vroeg heel fucking verhaal. Wat jij zegt doet of voelt interesseert me niet echt

[@acmelka]

I loved the idea ( widely held in 1890-1920) that Venus was a super tropical jungle world. That'd been cool. In some universe the solar system had advanced life on Venus Earth and Mars. Discovered during the age of steam...

[@ericfontaine2145]

Hi Anton, I haven't commented in a while just wanted to say thank you

[@anthonyalfredyorke1621]

Venus hold's so many secrets that one day we will discover, thanks Anton for another great video. PEACE AND LOVE TO EVERYONE ❤❤.

[@Knapweed]

When life began on Earth it was a fiery hell hole and we wouldn't survive five seconds in that environment. Limiting our search to planets that mimic our current climate tends to ignore that fact. Maybe life began on our planet in the upper atmosphere when its surface was almost as inhospitable as Venus is now.

[@brianSalem541]

It would be so cool if a probe explored Uranus and found traces of gases indicative of life.

[@zhaya_gallery]

After being bombaded with news.on intergalactic and interstellar travel, venus feels like the town around the mountain

[@Zegik_Niet]

i love to play my own music behind this. great musicless stuff

[@roderickrabbitskin8011]

Always worth the click

[@donkeyjoe4782]

Just send something there to directly observe. Its important enough

[@MouseDestruction]

Must be a rocky situation living under all that pressure.

[@hoosiercrypto9955]

Amazing. Yet, not surprising. Thanks 👍

[@michalmikulasi5193]

this is what i always wanted. look for life on venus. venus at least has a "normal" atmosphere. there might be life somewhere high in "the clouds"

[@TheTrueForbidden]

unrelated but that ending wave and smile always lights up my day if nasa does discover life on venus, I wonder how we could use that life to benefit us, and even if there isnt life, maybe the chemical process happening on venus could also be beneficial in some way

[@richardwadholm4019]

Hi Anton. Can you do an episode on the search for Element 120 and the "Island of Stability?" Thanks. ( I watch your show all the time.)