I had the similar squeak on my Gen-y I sat in the bed while my wife moved slow down the road and listened, I found it coming from the ball, cause of powder coating inside, I added grease and went away
@Captain-Awesome5 ай бұрын
We have the same squeak and I thought maybe it was from the ball as well. I’ve got about 2300 miles on our hitch so there’s no doubt it’s broken. I plan on greasing the ball see if it goes away. I’m curious, if you see this post, do you have chucking on (Concrete) Road with yours? I still have it but it’s getting better. There are certain concrete roads roads it’s worse than others.
@GENYHITCH3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience! We appreciate it!
@NordicNevs3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!! A few things I noticed for my set up with the goosebox. You don’t have to drill for the Reese goosebox to mount the chains. Also the warranty is honored by Lippert with Reese so that’s a good thing as you mentioned and you’re right it’s a personal choice. My air bag holds air for months and usually only required about 10psi but that’s just me. I appreciate the honest review for the Gen Y. No doubt it’s a solid option.
@bradlinenberg5603 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a Mega cab SRW 3500 and was considering changing out my B&W slider. Your video has helped me to stay with the B&W. Thanks for the great content.
@julianjohnson98503 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is exactly the type of review I was looking for.
@brettpeters23062 ай бұрын
If you are looking for better ride quality and less chucking get the goose box. The pivot point in the ball mount allows a forward back cushion with the air bag and not strictly up and down. I installed one on my 43ft 5th wheel and the ride quality was drastically improved
@MrAllmotorB3 жыл бұрын
Just installed mine a month ago absolutely love it!
@SmokeyBear20013 жыл бұрын
It was pointed out to me in a RV thread that the user manual states the mounting bolts need to be re-torqued every 100 miles....i checked it out and it does state that. This seems insane to do???
@jamesglenn5202 жыл бұрын
Probably for the first few tows because the powder coat is going to compress and a little torque is going to be lost.
@coolHandLuke51503 жыл бұрын
I have a reese goose box gen 1 for 3 years. I did it space as well. But i did it from the start. It has holes to bolt safety chains, no drilling needed. My local hardware store did not stock strong enough chains or hooks I like the air ride. I have to get in the bed to hook up the chains. I just add air then. The ride is amazing. Zero chunking. I as adjust the right height on the fly. Say backing in to a steep driveway (my last house) dump bag, ass end pops up 2". No need to throw timber down to drive over. Iwould be suprized at all if you where exceeding the "Vertical load limit: 5,000 lbs" of the off set ball Been there done that "short bed problems" A tall ball or bolt the hitch in lower would be a better option if you are not worried about tagging the cab. Also "been there done that"
@dewaynehastings3191 Жыл бұрын
When I purchased mine it had been approved for the jayco Just installed mine this week for same reason doing side work I need the bed of my truck.
@LoadedUpandTraveling3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review. We are choosing this hitch from the start and this helped to confirm our choice.
@roberthall696 Жыл бұрын
Great story. Covered everything that I needed to know.
@cadexim3 жыл бұрын
Stayed objective and shared pros and cons. Nice video.
@chuckpoz19683 жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping all of Us make better choices 😎 after this I’m going G-Y for my Ram 2500 Crew short bed 👍🏻
@clyderanger Жыл бұрын
Thanks!! I was considering it .For cost a very little improvement in RIDE & extra weight. I'll stay with what I have .
@BenjaminMedlock3 жыл бұрын
New Subscriber! This video was straightforward, concise, and informative. Well done review and I look forward to future updates.
@darenm61242 жыл бұрын
I just got a fifth wheel trailer and I have to be able to haul a slide in camper for different camping when not using the fifth wheel so I didn’t want to mess with the hitch that was going to be in the bed all the time I was going from camper to fifth wheel. When I saw the Gen Y on line I figured that I was the best way to go. I had the place I bought the fifth wheel install the Gen Y and the B & W gooseneck fron the start. I have only gone short trip so far but I think its going to work. I have notice there is some bouncing and heavy movement that I have not had before. When I am hauling the camper and are horse trailer at the same time I weigh 24,000 pounds. With this new fifth wheel trailer I am going to be pushing 26,000 if not more. All the trailers I have pulled so far have always been bumper pulls that have pushed 13,000 at the most. This fifth wheel weighs 16,000 dry weight so it’s the heaviest I have ever pulled. I did see on some reviews that there is a break in the Gen Y hitch is around 2000 miles so I am hoping that the ride will get better when it gets broke in.
3 жыл бұрын
Dude! I have watched several videos that have raised plenty of questions BUT...none more than will it fit and clear my cab on turns in my Ram 3500 Short Bed Mega Cab ??? Well, I know now.... THANKS!!
@m1ll3r863 жыл бұрын
I put one on my 5th wheel a few months ago. I have only towed with it twice. I had to do the b&w ball that set back 4 inches on mine because of how far forward my gooseneck ball was installed and I had a heavy duty rear bumper. I noticed my b&w ball sits a bit higher off the bed floor and actually let it move around some. Since then I have installed a different rear bumper and can actually use the original b&w ball. But I haven't had the chance to tow with it due to my truck having some issues. But I will say the little bit of towing I have done was a smoother ride than my Andersen hitch I had.
@alanpetersen44978 ай бұрын
I also put the GEN-Y hitch on my 2020 GD Solitude 380fl 5th wheel. I also had to purchase the B&W 4" extension ball, to get the clearance from my cab. Unfortunately, today, I was backing up, and my rear wheels sank in a pot hole, and the RV hit the rear cab, and blew my rear window out. Now, I am thinking that et my height, I need to drop the GEN-Y hitch, by using only 4 bolts, instead of 6 bolts. The question is, Can I use 4 bolts to attach the GEN -Y to my RV, instead of 6 bolts? Thereby, dropping the GEN-Y down an inch, and thusly giving me added height to my RV.
@jamesglenn5202 жыл бұрын
Having a rigg that short to tow with is probably part of the rough ride problem. 👍
@witkr9042 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a Dually Shortbed? Gimme a break.
@mediocrity95742 жыл бұрын
@@witkr904 Totally agree about a short box dually. But, if one wants the Mega Cab, you can’t get it with a long box. There are several company’s throughout the US that can do a conversion to a long box.
@94ss06gxp3 жыл бұрын
About to purchase this exact hitch. Great review and video.
@bryanmontgomery40502 жыл бұрын
Gen Y needs to get approved by Lippert!! Their sales would go through the roof!!!
@whateverfits19782 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@goneridingparts Жыл бұрын
@@whateverfits1978 Sounds like a money racket to me, Goosebox probably paid for their approval, I would think the goosebox or gen y, would both put similar stresses on these campers. But that's just one of the billions of opinions on this internet.
@whateverfits1978 Жыл бұрын
@@goneridingparts agreed. Seeing and feeling the heft of the Gen Y, you definitely feel like it's safe, especially compared to the stock pin box.
@stephencourson25042 жыл бұрын
I just put one on my travel trailer I love it the paper work for the hitch said 1000 miles for the break in period
@jonathanearles22623 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply I had a morryde pin box and a anderson ultimate hitch I was hoping to free up bed space and improve the ride. I guess I will find out we are heading from central Illinois to disney fort wilderness in March.
@ConcoursOne2 жыл бұрын
Trailer saver hitch rides better and much less stress on your trailer. Expansion joints now a non issue as far as ride goes. It does however not free up box space like the Gen Y
@1StrangeAdventure2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been researching these hitches for our Grand Design Momentum 399. With such a big RV, we are looking for something that could improve our ride quality. Thanks for the info.
@slinger33502 жыл бұрын
I have the Reflection & just trying to save some bed space.
@bigearn87822 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with your RV, but I added Sumo Springs to my RV. Some others added shock absorbers. Besides air shocks on the truck, Sumo's on the RV was a worth while add-on for me as in ride quality.
@roberthall696 Жыл бұрын
Get a Hensley air ride for improved ride.
@situationaladventures3 жыл бұрын
Great info and review. Only thing I’d add is that Lippert now makes their own Gooseneck Connect that of course is approved for their frames, as is the Reese Goosebox.
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Didn't know that. I'll check it out!
@jonathanearles22623 жыл бұрын
It has no suspension and costs $855 no thanks
@texasproud33323 жыл бұрын
Good video I am glad you’re happy with you’re hitch I just think that having too it 4” higher at the pin seems like it would pitch it up too high also seems like it’s turn in too a bit of a hassle too work with and really not gain much bed space
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
Well, when I say gaining bed space, I mean mostly when unloaded and I can just remove a ball and have a flat bed. With the slider hitch, it was so bulky that I never really wanted to take it out because it was just a hassle. But to your point, you do have more bed space when towing as well. The way the camper sits now is pretty level so the nose doesn't stick up or anything like that.
@eddiebeaty81502 жыл бұрын
The hitch may be good but I'd be worried about the torsional flex this will put on the framework of the trailer
@mrkrause32 жыл бұрын
Great information! Thanks for sharing!
@tommccoythomasm2505 Жыл бұрын
FYI the reason a goose neck requires safety chains and 5th wheels don't are lobbyist , the trucking industry uses 5th wheels so they have influenced government officials to not require safety chains in my opinion both should use safety chains.
@cedwards874 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great review.
@patriot80874 ай бұрын
Great review, With the added weight on the pin Box from the Gen Y being heavier causing frame issues or being sub in some way not able to deal with the added weight on the frame?
@whateverfits19783 ай бұрын
I guess it is possible. With all the frame flex issues going on right now, I would be a little more leery of anything that could be construed as causing problems if you intend on utilizing any type of warranty. Only certain manufacturers allow pin box replacements without voiding your warranty. My rig was out of warranty so it wasn't an issue for me there. That begin said. I had my rig pretty loaded when we traveled and never had a frame issue.
@allenklingsporn6993 Жыл бұрын
All ball hitches are designed to have grease applied to them. You probably wore through the powder coating. You can avoid "break-in" noises by properly greasing your gooseball/gooseneck hitch.
@endurancechiro2607 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review, lots of good points here. I noticed you’ve got the short bed as well, before you put the B&w extension on it did you have any issues with the camper trying to come in contact with the cab of the truck when turning, especially backing up? Some of the campgrounds we go to are snug and require some tight turns and hard angles. I’d be coming from the non-sliding version of the companion, backing up gets tight on my cab, especially if I have to go up a small grade. On the road quality does your truck have the factory installed airbags? Mine doesn’t, and I get a lot of chucking with the B&W.
@whateverfits1978 Жыл бұрын
I never came in contact with the bed, but my turning was inhibited. Honestly, I was a little scared to go full lock going forward. Backing up I always erred on the side of caution and was always able to get into spot(lots of backing up, going forward though). As far as the ride, I don't have airbags, but I did have lots of chucking with the BW. Sometimes when taking off you'd hear a loud clank that would scare everyone to death. I like that the goose ball doesn't do any of that.
@switz11 Жыл бұрын
I have the exact same truck. Can you do at least a 90-degree turn with this setup? Thanks!
@neilmac4730 Жыл бұрын
Read the Jeff Cox question. His answer is there for you. The answer is no but the answer is more detailed.
@christopherwilson7698 Жыл бұрын
I think people don’t understand that the more you use this hitch the Better it gets you have to break it in from new to about 500 miles to me there’s a Major difference the more miles and time you put on it the better smoother it performs break in is crucial.
@weldong86982 жыл бұрын
Chains are required for gooseneck trailers, at least in my state.
@DM-tf6mk4 ай бұрын
Great video and informative. What type of degree turning radius did you have with the gen-y and your short bed, Ram? I recently upgraded from a 1500 back into an HD and its a Ram 2500 with the 6.4' bed. Thanks
@whateverfits19784 ай бұрын
I never actually measured it, but I would guesss 70 . The short bed on the ram is definitely a downer. I've had Ford short beds (5-6" longer) and that extra room makes a lot of difference. I never had any issues turning going forward,. I could turn full lock and not hit the cab. However, backing up you definitely have to pay attention.
@DM-tf6mk4 ай бұрын
@whateverfits1978 Thank you so much for the reply. I appreciate it. Safe travels!
@patrickhoffman63403 жыл бұрын
Great video, really appreciate the information. I currently have a similar setup as your old one ( 2019 MHC 379 RD & B&W companion sider) and have been considering switching the hitch to either the goosebox or the gen-y for two reasons: 1. The bed space & 2. I have to remove the hitch to pull my gooseneck equipment trailer. Definitely leaning towards the gen-y hitch after watching this video, just concerned about clearance (cap to cab) since I tow with a short box pickup. Any thoughts???
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
After I bought the 4" gooseneck extender I don't worry about it much. The 4" gave me plenty of room. I still can't do 90 degree turns, but I've also never had a need to.
@patrickhoffman63403 жыл бұрын
Yeah and I have been experiencing the same thing. I have yet to need the slider on my companion hitch.
@rogergraves2423 ай бұрын
U got A Short bed on U-R That ballot of U-R Problems is short bed 8Ft. Bed would smooth out U-R Ride.
@bugmanmech Жыл бұрын
Difference in the ride height of the trailer? Does it ride level with the gen-y hitch as compared to the OEM pin box? Height of the fifth wheel hitch compared to the height of the goose ball? Trailer rides nose high with my B&W. Looking to lower the nose every thing else being okay. Flat bed truck so bed clearance not a concern.
@whateverfits1978 Жыл бұрын
I think it depends on your camper. My camper had three sets of mounting holes, I put it in the lower setting. Plus, the extended hitch ball I got also sat a little higher. Where I set mine, with a stock ball, mine was about the same as the BW. I would definitely suggest measuring before installing. Once you get that Gen Y in there, you won't want to take it out to adjust; at least if your setup went like mine did.
@BenjaminMedlock2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any 2 year updates? Still love the hitch?
@stevenlycans6571 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@danielalva53623 ай бұрын
I know this is an old post, but wanted to know how your turning radius looked with the B&W 4” offset ball. I have a 3500 short bed single rear wheel mega cab and am considering moving to this set up from the sidewinder pin box since I already have the B&W turn over ball in the truck. Taking the 5th wheel hitch in and out of it when I need the bed has outworn it’s welcome. Thanks.
@whateverfits19783 ай бұрын
I don't know the exact radius, but moving it back the 4" really helped. I never had any issues backing into spots with it. I don't think you would be disappointed with this setup.
@danielalva53623 ай бұрын
@@whateverfits1978 would you be able to come close to a 90 degree turn with the setup?
@whateverfits19783 ай бұрын
@@danielalva5362 I don't think so, but honestly, I've never needed to do a 90 degree turn.
@neilmac4730 Жыл бұрын
How about backing up enough for the chains to reach and connect before backing up to finish installation? Is that a viable solution? Cheers.
@rogergraves2423 ай бұрын
Smoother Ride, It Takes Time,Bed Space yes.
@witkr9042 жыл бұрын
Installed safety chains??? That is a Federal Law on Gooseneck Hitches!! Should have came from factory with them.
@jasonlovell3934 Жыл бұрын
I have never understood why the rv industry doesn’t just use a gooseneck hitch instead of the 5th wheel setup that uses up the entire bed.
@tomb17343 жыл бұрын
My concern is Lippert won't cover the warranty with the Gen Y and will with the Reese Goosebox so I'll keep the Reese.
@bigearn87822 жыл бұрын
Who told you this about Gen-Y voiding the warranty? I would like to see that, since I'm looking at Gen-Y. I've only read from Lippert/RV manufacturer that gooseneck adapters [convert a ball] will, but not the Gen-Y as a whole unit.
@bajamedic3 жыл бұрын
I don’t like Reese for the airbag reason too.
@jeffcox99302 жыл бұрын
Great review. I am considering replacing my Andersen. I was curious what bed length you have there. I presume with BW adapter there is no issue of cap making contact with the cab. A short vid with your rig 90 degrees and how much spacing there is would be nice.
@whateverfits19782 жыл бұрын
That's a 6'4" bed. Unfortunately, 90 degrees isn't possible with this set up. The adapter helps push it back some and it helps, but it still can't get to 90.
@vickery1963 Жыл бұрын
@@whateverfits1978 70°, 80° ?
@whateverfits1978 Жыл бұрын
@@vickery1963 never measured, but I would guess around 70.
@timothymcclure33703 жыл бұрын
What year is your truck? I have a 2020 Ram 3500 and I am having an issue with my stock DRV Elite Suite 5th wheel hitch and the ride height. Until recently you could not find a replacement option for heaven trailers 21,000-24,000 lbs ones but I am interested in Gen Y. I can not decide between the 5th wheel hookup or the gooseneck.
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
2019 Ram 3500
@robertvillafane53083 жыл бұрын
I like your truck
@patbullard92762 ай бұрын
You mentioned the weight being more. Does that include the weight savings from the loss of the hitch in your bed? In other words, the weight of the pin box plus the hitch?
@whateverfits19782 ай бұрын
The weight of the camper would be more since the pin box was heavier than stock, but overall it probably even out.
@patbullard92762 ай бұрын
@@whateverfits1978 That’s what I thought, so it doesn’t significantly affect the combination weight and the weight over the truck axel should be about the same as well as the weight on the trailer axels. Thanks for responding.
@whateverfits19782 ай бұрын
Yes. That’s correct!
@kourtnayogden39093 ай бұрын
Have you found a lock that will work for it? I would like to be able to lock mine up while being stored.
@whateverfits19783 ай бұрын
I have not. Mine was in enclosed storage so I didn't really explore one.
@campersnspokes4485 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Great honest video.
@kourtnayogden39093 жыл бұрын
So you have to continue to hold back the auto latch while pushing the button to lift your front RV stabilizers to come off of the ball?
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
yes
@buckwuk79843 жыл бұрын
I feel like you could install a little clip or something somewhere to put the loop in to hold it open. Just a thought
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
@@buckwuk7984 It's possible. It takes a little bit of force to pull the cable due to the way it is routed, but if you had a clip in just the right place it could probably work. I've got long arms so it's not too big of a concern based on where my auto level controls are placed.
@alstuart3 жыл бұрын
I have the same Gen-Y hitch. I can't detach the RV by myself because I can't pull the cable and push the button to lift the RV. It takes 2 people. I like the idea of installing a hook to hold the cable in the open position.
@williameasley46603 жыл бұрын
My Gen Y is on a 2021 Rogue Amored 371 and my auto leveling buttons are inside of one of my compartments. I'm not able to do both at the same time but my directions said to slightly lift the camper to take a little pressure off of the ball. Then pull the release cable and it will stay unlatched. Then you can continue to raise the camper the rest of the way...with only one person. This works perfectly for me and I hope it helps someone else.
@motarded42142 жыл бұрын
Are you able to get 90deg to the trailer with this setup? It looks like it might move the trailer back enough that cab interference isn't an issue
@whateverfits19782 жыл бұрын
No quite 90, but it will turn sharp enough for any spot I've tried to back into.
@BuggieChief3 жыл бұрын
Can you talk about rail clearance at higher degree turns and can you get 90 degrees?
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
I have right at 7" of clearance all the way around. No 90 degree turns though. I know that's the "gold standard" for turns, but honestly I've logged a lot of towing miles and backing up in to tight spaces and never needed to turn that sharp. I realize that every situation is different and some people may need to turn that tight, but I just haven't so that wasn't really a concern for me. If so, I would have gotten the long bed. However, the interior room of the mega cab was more important to me than the bed length.
@stevensegars49662 жыл бұрын
@@whateverfits1978 and did u find the 7” clearance was good so camper doesnt bottom out on bed rails?
@whateverfits19782 жыл бұрын
@@stevensegars4966 Yes, I never hit the rails. Mostly hwy towing of course, but a few off camber turns and never any issues.
@davidsteig17752 жыл бұрын
How does it do in tight turns. I want a gooseneck over my slider. However, the goosenecks I have tried cut off my turning radius. On sharp turns I run the risk of the tongue hitting the side of my box. I dont have to worry about that with my slider hitch. Is that something I have to worry about with the Gen Y. I have a 15 ram shortbed
@whateverfits19782 жыл бұрын
you may have more turning radius with a slider since it will most likely go back further.
@lakecountyliprippers63113 жыл бұрын
How was the Gen y on turning radius before adding the B&W extension? I just bought a camper and I'm getting this gooseneck installed on it... My truck has a 6.75' bed and I'm worried it might not turn as sharp as I need it to
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
So mine is a 6’4” bed. And for me it got a little close to the cab.
@AnthonyOrtiz2474 ай бұрын
Does the extension give you the clearance you need?
@rcheas48942 жыл бұрын
You comment that the GenY pin box was heavier but how much weight did you take out with removing the B&W slider? What would be your total weight change overall?
@whateverfits19782 жыл бұрын
BW slider and Geny hitch probably weigh about the same. The noticeable difference was between the stock pin box and the Gen-y. Stock pin box was easy to lift by yourself; the Gen-y was almost impossible.
@mediocrity95742 жыл бұрын
The B&W Companion Slider weighs a total of 287lbs. The Rotoflex pin box weighs approx 116lbs.The Gen-Y weighs between 118lbs - 181lbs, depending on what model you need. So switching those out will shave 200lbs+
@clrandolph232 жыл бұрын
How did this effect your cab clearance? I currently have a pulltite auto slider that gives me just enough clearance on a 2021 keystone. I am curious how much it moved the camper back total from the companion in the forward position 🤔
@whateverfits19782 жыл бұрын
Gave me about 4" more space between the cab and the truck. I never liked how close it was with the slider and short bed. 4" doesn't sound like a lot, but it was noticeable.
@jamesglenn5202 жыл бұрын
Can you go 90° and or beyond now with that short truck?
@switz11 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesglenn520 I have the exact same truck in the video and had the same question.
@alstuart3 жыл бұрын
I recently replaced my Andersen hitch with the Gen-Y executive 5th wheel. It is a little harder to hook up the Gen-Y compared to the Anderson because the Anderson has a funnel that guides onto the ball. I am confident with more practice I will be able to get the ball under the Gen-Y on the first try. I have only driven about 600 miles with the Gen-Y. I noticed the exact same squeaking noise. Hopefully it gets better after the breakin period. I like the ride quality of the Gen-Y more than the Andersen. The main problem I have with the Gen-Y is the difficulty detaching. I have to pull the cable while my wife lifts the RV. How do you detach by yourself?
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
My controls are on a door pretty close to the front of the camper. I think there is one shot in the video where you can see me raising the camper off the ball, maybe it's the first video I did of the install. Anyway, I can work the controls with my right hand and pull the cable with my left. It will definitely depend on where your RV controls are located. Mine just happen to be in a good position.
@williameasley46603 жыл бұрын
My Gen Y is on a 2021 Rogue Amored 371 and my auto leveling buttons are inside of one of my compartments. I'm not able to do both at the same time but my directions said to slightly lift the camper to take a little pressure off of the ball. Then pull the release cable and it will stay unlatched. Then you can continue to raise the camper the rest of the way...with only one person. This works perfectly for me and I hope it helps someone else.
@MrErichonda308 ай бұрын
@@williameasley4660tye a piece of rope on a carabiner to extend it.
@jessaryenterprises3 жыл бұрын
Good video. This made up my mind as to not purchase this hitch. The flexing I just don’t like. Thanks.
@jamesglenn5202 жыл бұрын
It's absolutely no different than having torsion axels under your trailer. I absolutely wouldn't tow my large trailer Without it. It so simple and easy to use and the ride is very smooth.
@jonathanearles22623 жыл бұрын
I just installed the 4.5 K model 8055AL on my 2018 Jayco 377RLBH was not impressed with the ride initially will the ride improve after break in and how much does cold weather 26° affect the stiffness of the rubber bushings anythoughts thxs
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
I wasn't impressed either initially. It took about 1k miles for it to get better for me. Not sure what you switched from, but my ride isn't better one way or the other from the BW setup I had. I actually loved the ride of the BW, but it took up the entire bed. The ride now, after about 3k miles or so, is much better than when I initially installed. I would imagine the cold weather does have an impact on the rubber bushings, but I have done much cold towing with it. I would think once they start moving and get warmed up they should be fine.
@PeeWeeHenson2 жыл бұрын
WHEN REMOVING THE 5TH WHEEL HITCH AND THE PIN BOX DOES THE GEN Y WEIGH LESS THEN THE 5TH WHEEL AND PIN BOX COMBINED?
@whateverfits19782 жыл бұрын
Yes, BW Slider hitch weighs 278 lbs. Pin box felt like 50 or or so. Gen - Y hitch was 155lbs.
@Marcosfamilyloft2 жыл бұрын
It’s a 2019, 3500, SW, with Ram boxes.
@keithmoulding68903 жыл бұрын
Great show Will this hitch fit a 2021 Chevy with a standard bed to pull a 1998 Hithhicker without clearance problems
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
I believe the Chevy and Ram both have about 21" of bed height from the bed floor to the top of the rails. So, that should be pretty close.. Don't know much about a '98 hitchhiker. You'd have to make sure Gen-y has a model to fit your camper.
@shawnjohnson1310 Жыл бұрын
I have the exact same truck. How’s your cab clearance when making tight turns?
@whateverfits1978 Жыл бұрын
It's tight, must be careful and swing wide...
@chuckpoz19683 жыл бұрын
I would like info as to where to get the pin for the hitch you have in the bed it looks off set ? I also have a short bed and want to use my bed. Thank you inadvance also thanks for sharing that video 👍🏻
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
No affilitiation with this company, but this is about the best price you'll find. www.sdtrucksprings.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=8718&gclid=CjwKCAiA9vOABhBfEiwATCi7GNInj8_nBanEbBH6RFVwM1_Xrnu-EhDHXYz3qBJojfrdMpKr_mqdcRoCCW4QAvD_BwE
@TIiBob13 жыл бұрын
I have a flatbed with a sunken ball in a trap door. Do you think the torsion plates would make contact with my bed?
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
Hard to say without know how far it is sunken, but it would have to be a pretty good drop for that to happen.
@MrSteveKyle2 ай бұрын
Misinfo about the Goosebox. No drilling required for chains.
@roncooley56513 жыл бұрын
Did the Gen Y void your camper warranty? I heard that reese goosebox is the only one that wont void warranty but thats just what i have heard.
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
There was a section in the video about that. Honestly, I don't know. I haven't had any issues or needed to use the structural warranty. Camper is out of the normal warranty so unless I have issues with the frame, I doubt I will ever know.
@Youmissedthejoke263 жыл бұрын
@@whateverfits1978 Honestly, I think Lippert would have a tough time justifying voiding a warranty based on the use of this hitch. The Magnussen Moss act makes it the Manufacturer's responsibility to prove that the aftermarket modification specifically caused the damage. Given the similarity in design and function to the Reese Goosebox (which they have approved), I think they would have a hard time with that.
@coolHandLuke51503 жыл бұрын
Its leaverage. Goose adaptors have a ton of leavege over a standard pin box. LP did not engineer its frames to take those forces. If you look, you will find a few video where the reese goose box is being blamed for the frame failure
@craigwilliams1073 Жыл бұрын
Yep, space in the bed and a 2k increase in weight!
@RWTT3 жыл бұрын
Great videos, thanks for the information! I am thinking of going with the Gen-Y as well so I don't have to remove my B&W hitch when I need the bed. We have an '18 Montana High Country. Do you think you could have used the lower holes to mount the hitch on the 5er to gain about an inch or so of clearance? I think you are saving some weight when you consider the weight of the slider hitch along with the pin box.
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
Yes, I could have and would probably done it if I had to do over. Honestly, it was a pain to install that by myself. So, now that it's in there I'll leave it where it is. The Gen Y setup is a little lighter than the slider hitch, but hard to tell any difference there by the seat of the pants.
@bigearn87822 жыл бұрын
@@whateverfits1978 I was ready to ask the same Q as to use the lower holes. I believe the website says may have to use the lower because of the design. BUT, I think we all understand what you mean by a frustrating install and the thought of spending another 2+-hours....again to lower. I have an '18 RAM shorty. I saw another video where he didn't use an offset ball. So, with your great video, I think I'll go for the lower holes. Probably in March '22....and sell this Demco.
@wipatriot5103 жыл бұрын
While I cannot argue with the functionality of the hitch switch, there is on BIG downside... With the 5th wheel pin/plate system, the law allows passengers to ride in the towed object, albeit your camper, HOWEVER, by changing the hitch to a gooseneck/ball hitch, you lose that "ability"... Not that I would ever ride in the towed trailer, or allow anyone to ride in the towed trailer, but some do, so there is that...
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would never let anyone ride in there either.
@jamesglenn5202 жыл бұрын
Never heard of anyone riding in a trailer. I actually thought it was Not Legal to do so 🤔
@darrenlife51443 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I also have a Ram 3500 mega cab but with the factory puck system, are aware of an offset ball that works in Ram’s puck system? My GenY is on order but concerned with cab clearance.
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge, there is no offset ball to work with the factory puck system.
@davew92512 жыл бұрын
@Darren: Did you ever find an offset ball for your RAM 3500 puck system ? I'm getting my setup/rig next week and am looking and can't find anything. I did call GenY and they are saying they are working on their own version of offset balls hopefully by beginning of 2022.
@darrenlife51442 жыл бұрын
@@davew9251 no, I still have the B&W ball that is a sturdy unit but not offset. Thank for letting me know that GenY is working on an offset, I’ll definitely look forward to this. I’ve thought of a design with the ball in its position with two stand off arms anchored in two of the empty chaining receivers to prevent the ball from spinning
@davew92512 жыл бұрын
@@darrenlife5144 I can't picture what you're getting at LOL ! But you're still using the same B&W ball in the Ram center puck hole for the goose ball ? Or you're somehow using the offset ball in the center hole and then trying to stabilize it with your arm design ?
@darrenlife51442 жыл бұрын
@@davew9251 still using the centre ball and being very careful when I back into a site 😀
@ronsanchez47102 жыл бұрын
Now that you have had the Gen Y for a year, do you have any new comments/feedback? Thanks
@whateverfits19782 жыл бұрын
I have a new setup now. I got a newer camper and it has the Andersen hitch. I really like the Gen-Y for bed space, but if you're just concerned about the ride, I wouldn't buy it just for that.
@jamesglenn5202 жыл бұрын
Check out all the information on those weak Anderson hitches Folding Up⚠️⚠️⚠️👎👎 The pictures are worth a thousand words 😲🥺
@daviddavis65723 жыл бұрын
How long is the bed of truck?
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
6'4"
@miguelsalinas238410 ай бұрын
How is it having the gen y hitch with a shortened truck?
@whateverfits197810 ай бұрын
It works out better than a fifth wheel when you use an offset ball to push the camper back. My setup had a 4" offset so I could turn sharper than with the fifth wheel.
@scottadams8424 Жыл бұрын
Do you believe it eliminated or reduced bucking or chucking?
@whateverfits1978 Жыл бұрын
Completely
@SmokeyBear20013 жыл бұрын
Great video and I am nearly sold on this Gen Y versus the Goosebox. How is the auto latch system? Easy to hookup and disconnect?
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
Very easy, just pull the cord to release it. It never binds. When hooking up, it just goes on and connects automatically. Nothing to it.
@SmokeyBear20013 жыл бұрын
@@whateverfits1978 sorry one more question...did the squeaking noise fully go away? This seems to be a rare issue and maybe it just needs "broken in" when it does occur.
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
@@SmokeyBear2001 It has. After about 1k miles, I don't hear it anymore..
@SmokeyBear20013 жыл бұрын
@@whateverfits1978 I am ordering one. What is your GVWR on your camper and what model hitch did you go with? Our 5th wheel has a pin box weight of 2,090 and camper GVWR is 14,000 lbs. Gen Y recommended the 4.5k model gooseneck conversion
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
@@SmokeyBear2001 my pin box weight is around 2500. I went with the next to highest model that has a max pin weight of 4500. Geny Y actually recommended the highest model with 5500 pin weight max, but I thought that was overkill for my setup. GVWR is 16,500.
@markhunt28083 ай бұрын
Your wrong the Reese goose box has holes to hook your chains in
@JTRM32 жыл бұрын
With the new hitch and 4” offset how close to the cab can you get in degrees?
@whateverfits19782 жыл бұрын
still not as close as I'd like. Probably somewhere around 70
@JTRM32 жыл бұрын
@@whateverfits1978 Interesting, would’ve thought you would get more with the 4” offset ball.
@zane47953 жыл бұрын
Did you notice any additional noise with using the 4” offset ball?
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
no real noise difference. I could tell the ride was a little different with it being further back though.
@zane47953 жыл бұрын
@@whateverfits1978 good to know! Is your BW turnover ball location directly over the axle? Or is it pushed a little forward toward the cab like most I’ve seen?
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
@@zane4795 It's a little forward of the axle.
@edsmercina71573 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jaredfreeman85722 жыл бұрын
Do you have airbags on your truck aswell?
@whateverfits19782 жыл бұрын
No airbags and completely sock suspension.
@BobBob-dx5jx Жыл бұрын
Lipper will buy Gen-Y in a few years….
@Gopher76 ай бұрын
How about tight corners?
@whateverfits19786 ай бұрын
Never found a situation (moving forward) that caused an issue.
@kingranch85162 жыл бұрын
My concern is the bushings when they start wearing will act like slingshot?
@jamesglenn5202 жыл бұрын
What are you referring to? There are no rubber bands in the hitch. They are basically 4 independent torsion tubs. Nothing that is going to stretch and release energy.
@kingranch85162 жыл бұрын
@@jamesglenn520 really other blogs say different
@jamesglenn5202 жыл бұрын
@@kingranch8516 there are videos showing how the hitch is made. There are no rubber parts that stretch. There is however rubber pieces that compress. That is how a torsion axel on trailers work.
@jamesglenn5202 жыл бұрын
@@kingranch8516 The rubber pieces are replaceable and have a 5year warranty.
@paullutz4573 жыл бұрын
How come you just didn’t get a taller gooseneck ball?
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
The combo of higher and further back worked well. I thought I just needed height, but the distance helped a lot as well.
@keithnorris89823 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you want the air bag on the Reese. I'm learning right now
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
I am sure it's a fine hitch, but I didn't want the added part of an airbag. It was an extra step to the hooking up process and possibly a failure point.
@keithnorris89823 жыл бұрын
@@whateverfits1978 Thanx for your reply. Actually, I like the review of Gen-Y, and by no means was I challenging your view. I need to purchase a hitch (the goose neck is already in the truck,) and a great job was done in installing it, so I thought it would be best to use it for my 31 foot Montana. I am completely new to R.V. world so I've spent at least 400 hours learning all the stuff folks like you are willing to post. Again, thank you very much:-) -keith norris
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
@@keithnorris8982 sure thing! Best of luck with your purchase.
@tomm_d3 жыл бұрын
As an owner of a Reese Goose Box, I can tell you that you don’t have to air up each time you use it. It holds air for months. And you can lift off the ball without airing down. Not sure where that myth started.
@bigearn87822 жыл бұрын
@@keithnorris8982 Just FYI, Gen-Y has different models, with different goosebox widths at the attaching point. I too, have a Montana with a 3,620 hitch weight on the CAT. I'm looking at the GY48FR 25K/4.5 (2.5 to 4.5 hitch weight), designed for the Lippert 1116/1716. Which means I need the spacer kit, too.
@bross8243 жыл бұрын
Does this hitch provide cab clearance for a short box pickup?
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
You can't do a 90 degree turn, but it works well enough for me. Not really anything to do with the hitch imo. I think it's about the same as a fifth wheel pin box would be in a short bed truck.
@bross8243 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reply!
@TheDudeIndiana032 жыл бұрын
Are those toolboxes attached to the back of your bed?!
@whateverfits19782 жыл бұрын
Nothing mounted permanently in the bed. Just two portable boxes in the bed.
@mpress603 жыл бұрын
B & W ball has a 2" rise without having to move it back.
@whateverfits19783 жыл бұрын
The extender moves it back and up compared to the BW ball that comes with the hitch. So wherever it is with the stock ball, it's higher with the extender. Plus, I needed it to go back some too.
@mpress603 жыл бұрын
👍
@Marcosfamilyloft2 жыл бұрын
Can you use this system with a Ram boxes?
@mediocrity95742 жыл бұрын
No, because the bed with is narrower.
@NTM20092 жыл бұрын
Safety chains are required for all gooseneck trailers. Also yours are in the wrong spot. Safety chains are required to be attached to the frame not the hitch or the pin box plates. Also even the goosebox voids warranty. All ball type hitches void the campers warranty
@mediocrity95742 жыл бұрын
Not true at all. The Reese Goosebox does NOT void the Lippert frame warranty. Reese paid for Lipperts approval/endorsement.
@michaelkonstantellis30752 жыл бұрын
You want to get rid of that b&w companion?
@whateverfits19782 жыл бұрын
Already did😏
@anthonymontoya1537 Жыл бұрын
Extenders and spacers from a math perspective just looks bad