National Security Multi-Mission Ship (NSMV) I - Empire State VII - Arrives at SUNY Maritime

[@jerryodell1168]

Another remark about the consoles. Who decided to make the edges sharp? Having over 7+ years of sea duty in the US Navy, I know all edges should be rounded to reduce injuries when a person is thrown into them in heavy sea. Believe me it happens often. Yes, blunt edges still cause hurt, however, usually not as bloody.

[@andrewd6906]

This is great my ,daughter trained on Empire VI

[@kp6215]

Lucky her my generation not allowed because my dad paid for college for me to find a man to support me the rest of my life where my brother was to do great things allowed to attend the college of his choice of California Polytechnic San Luis Obispo that four years later was impacted in 1971 this they declined yet my brother failed to tell the family that I would have been accepted if I had spent one semester at local junior college in that county that automatically allowed transfers to that college thus I never became a History teacher because the other college Cal State Northridge had too many students couldn't get the classes I needed for two years then CA had too many teachers no jobs in 1973. I was pulled from college and learned the truth from my father when he got mad because he blamed me because my behavior may be investigated by Elanco the corporation that my brother applied for a job. Instead my brother got offer to work for Del Monte in San Francisco but had to have high number on the military lottery for Vietnam war because political issues with poor kids getting drafted the college students got deferred. Please do a show about Grace Hooper because I returned to college for a CIS degree but had to choose between my college or medical care for my mother in 1984.

[@RobertTagg]

Great video again Sal. One correction. TOTE was the contract administrator and ship construction supervisor, but they did not design the ships. Both the concept design and guidance contract design were done by Herbert Engineering with funding and oversight directly by MARAD. Philly Shipyard and TOTE contractually were able to build any ship meeting the overall specifications, but very few deviations were actually made from the guidance design package provided by MARAD.

[@frankmiller95]

Not mentioned here is that TOTE was owner of the ill fated "El Faro" and by many mariners considered to be at very least partially responsible for promoting a culture that resulted in her loss. ln less polite terms, TOTE has blood on its hands.

[@merrygulls]

On the official "Signing over"of the Empire State VII morning, flying proudly on top of the ship was the pennant of Kings Point...

[@wgowshipping]

Well, at least for a moment KP had a ship. :)

[@gregbluefinstudios4658]

I think it's an amazing type of ship. Great for training, and an awesome Multi Use boat. No idea why the Navy is NOT considering this, as a replecement for a few types, other than, "It makes too much sense"

[@DashPar]

Not enough pocket money for the politicians on such a transparent program. 10% for the big guy, 25% for certain senators and congressmen.

[@zorbakaput8537]

You know what they say about multi use? def: Not very good at anything.

[@robertlabrenz7938]

Could form the basis for a new command ship, easily.

[@markthompson2079]

Thank you very much Sal. You always give me a entertaining and informative video, but more importantly you make me think. I don't know exactly how you do all of that but I'm grateful that you manage to do so. You content is very much appreciated, thank you.

[@wgowshipping]

I appreciate that!

[@erikjohnson3255]

I can say that the conversation has been had among us worker bees at MARAD to use this hull for other platforms, to include the T-AVBs (I can't speak for leadership, just hallway talk). There are a lot of moving parts that have to fall in place, since these decisions involve multiple Departments and Agencies. The strategy makers will more than likely look at what the future of the USMC's mission will be in regards to using platforms like the CURTISS & WRIGHT. Can this mission be done in a way that does not require a large ship? But the hull is in production and the production line is churning. It would be good to take advantage of that for other vessel platform construction projects.

[@BrettBaker-uk4te]

Then again, Uncle needs to buy a bunch of container ships to move cargo during wartime. Maybe Congress can move fast enough that the container ship line can be open for 50 more for MSC.

[@mrahob275]

Neat tidbit for ya .. There is an older gentleman serving on her delivery crew by the name of Doug Faunt, I worked alongside him on the SSV Oliver Hazard Perry project .. A survivor of the S/Y Bounty incident. Great guy with a great life story !!

[@laurenglass4514]

Reading the list I didn’t know Texas A&M had maritime training! Shows what we don’t know

[@paulyg21]

Sad you were not able to get up there and tour it yourself Sal. In the SUNY press release they had a contact to call to get on the press tour list. I think if you called they would have accommodated you. The console in the picture is the training bridge console.

[@laurenglass4514]

Great pictures

[@donalddodson7365]

I hope the "snub" of not inviting you to the festivities does not stop you from doing several episodes showing off how truly important the ship and the process has been. Maybe we can tag along on the inaugural winter cruise? 😊

[@harrybaulz666]

This is awesome! A fleet of 12 navy tenders would be great!

[@kevinshortell7604]

Interestingly enough, Google Maps / Google Earth shows the Empire State VII under construction in the drydock at Philly Shipyard. Neat!

[@QALibrary]

what a great set of ships and about time the USA brought 10+ replace ageing ships

[@nordisk1874]

To go from graceful lines of the VI to the converted ferry look.

[@josephpadula2283]

Empire State V alum and VI instructor . It was way past time for a new ship!

[@nordisk1874]

@@josephpadula2283 oh I know the TSES VI was on her last legs and duct tape and prayer. Post cruise with raining in the holds cause refer flats were thawing out is understandable.

[@julissongs]

Thanks for the video !! My nephew is currently in school there !!

[@JK-zw8ec]

Thanks!

[@wgowshipping]

You bet!

[@Glen.1966..]

Great insight into these new training ships , and has always very informative! Always keeping us updated on various issues / news. Well done Sal! Big thumbs up! 👍👍👍

[@MrTylerStricker]

How many countless times have I driven across the Throg's Neck Bridge & wondered "What are all of those cool, naval-looking buildings under the spanway?"...little did I know that there Saul was, sitting in a classroom, waving at the traffic going by. 😅

[@coolhandluke1980]

Another excellent report about the Maritime Industry and Education. I have really enjoyed your reports and this one especially as it impacts our mutual Alma Mater. How excited the Faculty and Cadet Corps must be to receive such a valuable and modern training ship. We had to contend with a ship built in the 50's, built as a troop transport with many systems being antiquated and manually operated, but I agree with you that she had beautiful lines which stood out especially with a fresh coat of paint. I hope that they post some videos of future cruises and walk throughs of the new vessel. Keep up the great work and Happy New Year!

[@sw0i]

Great story, Sal. As a former relief worker who, on the very same relief operation (in the USVI after Hurricane Irma) was first berthed in a "rack" in a troop berthing area on the Wright and then moved to a double stateroom on a cruise ship that FEMA chartered for the purpose, I will say it's great to see something more suitable for the task. As a side note I'm at Derecktor Shipyards in NY just wrapping up a refit and I will be steaming past your alma mater in a couple of weeks, so I'm looking forward to seeing Empire State up close. Her predecessor was a regular landmark on our way to and from LIS.

[@raycollier301]

Steely Dan did say "No I'm never going back to my old school"...but your sentimentality makes sense. 🙂

[@roderickcampbell2105]

Ah, yes, Ray. But that was Steely Dan's old school not SUNY, NYC. Upstate. Now I have to play the song. And also I live five minutes walk from my old school.

[@nicksanta]

Hello! I discovered you on You-Tube. Thanks for your insight and all of your good work. Regards!

[@donmedford2563]

From wiki: "While primarily a training ship the NSMV class is also to be equipped for disaster relief: a Roll-on/Roll-off side ramp, container space and crane, and a helipad.[8] Though a helicopter cannot actually land on the helipad." What is the purpose of a helipad if you can not land a helicopter on it?????

[@johnbuczek3804]

The picture at 3:40 is the training bridge. The NSMV series has a separate training bridge one level below the main bridge/wheelhouse.

[@laurenglass4514]

Thank you for all the great information!

[@bslturtle]

I was interested in this until you said TOTE was doing this. I did standby for TOTE in Tacoma, Wa several times. Their old new ship was really nice until you had to do maintenance. Stupid stuff like the console you mentioned here. Many of the engine room pumps were accessible only through major stripping of other eqpt covering them. Never saw anything like it. It was too bad, otherwise it was a nice ship.

[@maxmacdonald7174]

I see why they built that overly long control panel. Keeping the price down is the biggest one. You can do plenty of testing in shop before installation. Taking care of systems electronics noise from interfering with each other and fix it beforehand save money and time.

[@captiannemo1587]

If only all naval programs moved this fast…

[@phil20_20]

🚢 .............. 🚢................ 🚢............ ...........😅

[@michaelimbesi2314]

Philly Shipyard is a particularly efficient shipyard. It’s effectively a copy of a yard that was built in eastern Germany after the wall fell. As a result, it’s well-planned and fairly heavily automated, especially for an American yard.

[@robertguttman1487]

That is probably because this is NOT a Navy program. If the Navy had gotten involved in this it would have taken a whole lot longer and ended up costing a great deal more.

[@benjmaz3251]

As a current MUG at maritime I can say the limited time i’ve spent on the ship has been nothing but enjoyable. During indoc we spent 5 nights on the ship and the ac was so nice instead of being in the hot dorms and standing a quarterdeck watch and going on a round of the ship at 0300 is both an enjoyable and terrifying experience because it’s great to be able to walk around the ship but it’s very easy to get lost especially on your first one but I can’t wait for sea term 2025.

[@AllNighterHeider]

Love the Borg reference Thanks Sal

[@phil20_20]

The bidge looks like a hotel counter. 😅 'no luggage through here'

[@sailingirwin5489]

Great job Sal, I graduated Mass in 87, just a bit before you! My son is hoping to sail on Mass’s new ship but the delivery timing is touch and go. Love the channel! BTW, the SUNY president should be removed for overlooking your invitation!😂

[@roderickcampbell2105]

Hi Sailing. Very nice note. It is a great channel. I would settle for the SUNY president telling his/her staff to put Sal on the darn maritime VIP list. I hope your son gets his berth. Best.

[@BenMerideth]

It was raining lol. The bag pipers was marching around in the rain. I went on watch at noon. I was part of the delivery crew, 3AE

[@CigarAttache]

What?! No invite? I'd be ticked too Sal

[@wgowshipping]

I know!

[@kp6215]

Louisiana Governor emergency because the Mississippi has drought with salt water going up the Mississippi preventing shipping and harming drinking water . You should do show about Mississippi River drought.

[@seldoon_nemar]

If only the LCS program was this successful

[@josephpadula2283]

Could you get an engineer as a guest to talk about the design ? This is the first Diesel trying ship for NY, up to now they have been steam . Running a steam plant is different than diesel much harder to teach . Yes I know most ships are diesel now ,except a few LNG tankers. But now that the Navy dropped steam plants except for Nuclear it seems a loss ….

[@donalddodson7365]

@josephpadula2283 Sadly, the People's Republik of Kawlifornia has declared war on all things diesel. Maybe #5 will be garbage-gas fired. 🤔

[@rogerlafrance6355]

After seeing the bridge on the new Princess, it does look old school, but if you have all positions filled with two or three at each, logical.

[@ginog5037]

Ok Sal, a very cool ship with its drop down thrusters...

[@3ATGL]

I think I understand why they might refer to them as "National Security," to get funding, I think a more peaceful category title would be more appropriate.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

Wow. I was seriously considering that school for college. The Summer Cruise was big attraction. Plus it seem like a nicer atmosphere than Annapolis. It's kind of an oddball location however. I don't think most people in New York City even know about the school? Kind of makes me wonder if I had chose to go there, instead of Temple University?🙇🏽‍♂️ Well, Temple had better girls than Maritime...

[@TheSubHunter1]

I could see these being great replacements for mercy and comfort As tenders I don’t think they would be suited for that though

[@robertlevine2152]

Sal, Any particular reason the USMMA (Kings Point) was not included in the new training ship program? I understand why the Great Lakes Academy was left out, and like you, I don't agree with the decision. I agree with your comments on the bridge design. Not only is there a long walk to get around the console, but the area behind the console seems to be very crowded. Bob

[@jamesmurney1374]

USMMA cadets do their sea training on commercial vessels instead of a dedicated training ship.

[@bryanachee7133]

@@jamesmurney1374 and that hasn't been going so well, has it?

[@laurenglass4514]

Almost on time and on budget! Guess the gov will have to get that program back to take longer and increased budget😂

[@panhandlemikee5573]

Having the US Navy use this ship for Navy missions is a great idea. But many program manager admirals would not be needed. The procurement is too logical and efficient. The recent Navy boondoggles with the LCS, Zumwalt destroyer, and the rail gun cost billions and screams for a new procurement system. I can only hope.

[@greyjay9202]

Who chose Tote as a partner in this privatized venture? They are the people whose sloppy maintenance, training, and crew issues, contributed to the sinking of El Faro. By the way, didn't Maine Maritime recently take delivery of a new training ship?

[@darrellyoung9586]

Hmm, class of '89......well, I was the class of '70 at CMA. We were the last class to sail on our training ship. It went off to scrap. They have since had several other training ships........newer, but not necessarily better. I think these new ships will prepare the cadets well for the newer merchant ships that now ply the worlds oceans. Your comments about the bridge design are well founded. Perhaps Tote and the Philly shipyard will make a modification.

[@dalevonthun5257]

The Borg metifor was funny.😅

[@M167A1]

Tote put the same effort into this ship that they did into the El faro.

[@donalddodson7365]

Wake-up call to the US Navy? The Nation Founders' federal system works! State Maritime Academies can design, build and launch while our US Navy diddles, twiddles and retires the LCS's. Go Mariners!

[@jimash2607]

What fuel will these vessels use? Will they need to be upgraded to new fuel?

[@austingregg2144]

Was Tote really the best choice considering what happened to the decrepit El Faro?

[@rdsexton57]

How about a report on employment prospects for US maritime academy graduates? The ship looks great, but are the shipping companies hiring US grads?

[@chrisb4647]

Could you get a vessel the size of ES7 thru the lock system to Great Lakes Maritime?

[@wgowshipping]

All of the 15 U.S. and Canadian Seaway locks have the following dimensions: Attracting vessels 227.7 meters (740 feet) in length to transit. Attracting vessels 24 meters (78 feet) in width to transit. Attracting vessels 8.9 meters (26 feet and 6 inches) in depth to transit. NMSV are 524.5 ft long, 88.7 ft wide and draw 21.4 feet. So, too wide.

[@chrisb4647]

So the one case where, "You gonna to need a smaller boat" @@wgowshipping

[@chrisb4647]

and if you are still in Annapolis, "The Old Stein Inn" is not a bad place for German beer. First two rounds are on me.

[@196cupcake]

3:59 Dukes of Hazzard hood slide

[@robertguttman1487]

All of this started as a result of the Hurricane Katrina disaster, in 2005, after which the Empire State VI was sent to New Orleans to support the relief effort, in which the ship proved very efficacious.

[@kp6215]

I do wanted to spend my life in the mountains or the sea on sail.

[@emom358]

All bid items should be on time and on or under budget.

[@carltontweedle5724]

So it is a jack of all trades but master of none. Lets hope it masters staying above the water. Money saved means lives lost, build a ship cheap the crew suffers.

[@macnachten8822]

Once again, we see Great Lake mariners taking a back of the bus position in overall needs. Apparently, the US powers that be do not feel that Lakers hold any position or contribution to American trade and therefore, the training of new mariners and officers is currently more than adequate for the long future ahead...well, I guess that is part for the nautical course the US is playing on. Sad though, isn't it? The slow death of a necessary fleet and the sailors who ply the lakes? Who knew this was to become the direction of short sighted politicians and senior sailors who haven't worked a deck in a decade? Truly sad.

[@jamesmurney1374]

They have too much beam (88 feet) to get through the St Lawrence Seaway. (78 feet max). Great Lakes would be better served to partner with a Great Lakes shipping company to add berthing to a vessel trading on the Lakes and then rotate cadets through.

[@LackofFaithify]

One word: Shareholders. TOTE doesn't have those. When a company decouples with the almighty Quarterly call, its like the spell of shitification magically disappears and you can actually plan and strategize and have actual growth and a solid business instead of firing half your talent pool to make the latest 3 months look good.

[@eliasthienpont6330]

🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁LION c LIKE No. 10

[@peglegpete6656]

What per cent age of the time will these be used?

[@squid0013]

Texas should have received the first, being without a real ship of their own for oh, only 17 years. I have some issues with how MARAD has treated TMA

[@SteamCrane]

"National Security" indicates that these are going to deploy to the Rio Grande and Detroit River.

[@kavemanthewoodbutcher]

I detest the lack of consideration and respect shown towards our beloved Doctor Captain, in not being given a place of honor at the christening.

[@patrickk9440]

The engines don’t even have purifiers for their fuel and lube oil….

[@R32R38]

Probably the only college that's literally under a bridge.

[@josephpadula2283]

Are you Trolling??

[@kp6215]

I am 72 when women weren't allowed as men thought we brought bad luck.

[@beeble2003]

They need a better name than National Security Multi-Mission Vessel for at least three reasons: 1. NSMV is awkward to say, as yu point out. 2. Calling it "national security" makes it sound like a spy ship -- I assumed it was going to be the US equivalent of the Russian _Yantar._ 3. Two missions (training and disaster relief" isn't "multi".

[@SuperDave_BR549]

This will come in handy to house all those undocumented tourists that are taking advantage of NY's sanctuary law.

[@jamesonpace726]

Politics makes everything better. No, not really....

[@jamesalles139]

4 Al Gore's rhythm thanks

[@jamesjross]

Sal... I've heard you on podcasts in the UK as a guest/expert - I'm dumbfounded as to why they didn't invite you.