MYSTERY GUEST: Victor Borge [comedian/pianist] PANEL: Herman Wouk, Dorothy Kilgallen, Fred Allen, Steve Allen
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@bitscolumn10 жыл бұрын
So happy you have this video with Steve and Fred appearing together as panelists.
@wmbrown64 жыл бұрын
They also appeared together on a local show where Will Rogers' life and career were looked at; the host (who later created and hosted "Open Mind") introduced them as "the Allen brothers," thus providing a twist to the "father/son" jokes on this edition of their lone joint "WML?" panel appearance. In the time of 1966-67 when Sue Oakland was appearing on an alternating basis (with Phyllis Newman and "Suzy Knickerbocker" on other weeks), one wonders what if, on one of her panel appearances, character actor Simon Oakland (likewise, as with Steve Allen and Fred Allen, of no relation) was also booked as a guest panelist, would there have been "father/daughter" and/or "older brother/younger sister" jokes? Bennett bringing up Jack Benny's "Sy/Sue/Si" routine? Mr. Daly addressing them on occasion as "Mr. Simon" and "Miss Sue"?
@audreyschwarzfeld47472 жыл бұрын
Trtrttttfffffffgggg
@drumbum3.142 Жыл бұрын
Totally Agree. (Some) Eight years after the fact but this is really cool. 😊 And Unique.. . To my Knowledge both of these Comedy Legends were/are Not related..
@Maxxq1234 жыл бұрын
Who is watching these wonderful episodes during Covid-19
@sandrageorge34883 жыл бұрын
They have done so much to keep my morale up.
@ChrisHansonCanada2 жыл бұрын
What's THAT?
@geniusmchaggis7 жыл бұрын
im now officially obsessed with WML! ive been watching a dozen a day!
@bobbyoconnor31046 жыл бұрын
genius mchaggis hi I watch the shows every day as it beats most of the modern shows in n.z.the only game shows I watch is tipping point and the chase both from england
@oaknova54154 жыл бұрын
I do too!
@davidsanderson59184 жыл бұрын
Bobby Oconnor I see you wrote your comment a year ago. I'm in the UK too and I wouldn't be at all surprised if like me you've cancelled your TV licence by now. Television is over. I have enough here on YT to keep me going for many years to come.
@geniusmchaggis4 жыл бұрын
ah laddy...i love it all...i love today TV too...just a tiny segment....there is so much crap...but you know?....thats what they said in 1972...too...TV is crap they said...in 1972...itll go on and on and we shall love it all the same...heres what ZAPPA said in 72...kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5qmgpZ7jJ5rhbs.....
@geniusmchaggis4 жыл бұрын
and heres what the TUBES said in the 70s...kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6GTkK1qaZ2jocU
@bigoldinosaur2 ай бұрын
“Thank you very much father.” Ahh classic bliss.
@broughtbackin5 ай бұрын
I hope someone reads this someday (and these vids stay up for decades to come). I just LOVE how the men celebrities get up to shake hands with both men and women. There is NO SUCH class in this day and age. It is all gone. (2024)
@jackkomisar4583 жыл бұрын
Victor Borge's show, "Comedy in Music", closed 8 days before this episode aired. It ran for 849 performances and was entered into the Guinness Book of World Records as the longest-running one-man show in the history of theater.
@puffnstuff123 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled across this show last week and I can't seem to put it down. Too bad nothing this fabulous exists today.
@LarsRyeJeppesen7 жыл бұрын
So great to see Steve back
@lilybean8356 жыл бұрын
Yes, I adore Steve
@jenniferisbell96292 жыл бұрын
I love this show! I miss Ms. Dorothy. I’m 60 yrs. old. I enjoy these older programs. The politeness, kind, well spoken is not used in a very long time.
@Rosarium20075 жыл бұрын
It is interesting that I’m watching this today. Tomorrow is the 74th anniversary of the morning my paternal grandmother went out out to get the milk bottles off the porch and spotted a large explosion off in the distance. The news reports at the time claimed an ammo dump at the local military base had exploded. Just over three weeks later another version of that “ammo dump” exploded in Hiroshima and a few days later in Nagasaki. [My grandparents lived in Alamogordo, NM in the 1940s & 1950s.]
@sandrageorge34883 жыл бұрын
Wow
@GJP11699 ай бұрын
These game shows are quite enjoyable even after all these years .Great programming is always timeless
@jmoss4917 жыл бұрын
I love seeing Fred and Steve together.
@stephaniezimbalist37573 жыл бұрын
Just 47 days after this episode aired, Fred dies at age 61.That's weird, it's also crazy that, that is what 61 looked like back then.
@drumbum3.142 Жыл бұрын
Totally Agree. (Some) Five years after the fact but this is really cool. 😊 And Unique.. . To my Knowledge both of these Comedy Legends were/are Not related..
@Bambi_Harris_Traveling_Author10 жыл бұрын
I love Victor Borge, he always makes me smile
@neilmidkiff5 жыл бұрын
In his own act he was unsurpassed -- I saw him live on stage several times and tried never to miss his TV shows -- and as a mystery guest he was very funny. But other times as a guest panelist I find him selfishly trying to bend the show to his type of humor, and at least for me he doesn't make it work; I really can't stand his panelist appearances.
@bettycogswell98515 жыл бұрын
@@neilmidkiff He made people laugh. It doesn't get any better than that...
@accomplice554 жыл бұрын
@@neilmidkiff Agreed! He was normally hilarious, but he did not work as a panelist on this show.
@hhale Жыл бұрын
Victor was an amazingly talented pianist first and foremost. That he inserted so much humor into act, and I personally found him very funny, is in a way a bonus. I saw him live a number of years ago while he was on tour through the Dayton, Ohio area. He was well into his 70s at that point and his act was still well worth the price of admission.
@Kerithanos6 жыл бұрын
"Tests atom bombs" is the best "line" I've ever seen on this show. I would have loved to see the panel try to figure that one out the whole half hour - I have a feeling there would be a LOT of funny questions.
@TheMikester3076 жыл бұрын
I saw Borge perform back in the '90s! Very funny!
@soulierinvestments10 жыл бұрын
Landmark of time. Here it is -the one and only time the Allens Fred and Steve appeared together on the panel. One time earlier, Steve sat on the panel the one time when Fred was a mystery guest, plugging his new and unsuccessful TV show whatever it was. This has to be the highest-powered writer panel ever assembled for this program - novelist Wouk, columnist Kilgallen, and writers-authors Fred and Steve. Wouk for a number of years served as Fred’s editor-sounding board -writer on “The Fred Allen Show” on NBC Radio. Fred’s other well known editor-sounding board-writer was Nat Hiken.
@Beson-SE10 жыл бұрын
Fred Allen calls Steve his " son" and Steve replies with "father". Actually they could have been father and son, Fred was born in 1894 and Steve in 1921.
@perpieta8 жыл бұрын
Love the author-intensive panel. Fwiw this seems to me to be the first time so far that the panel isn't an equal distribution of men and women.
@loissimmons65587 жыл бұрын
+perpieta Actually, there were three men and one woman on the panels for the first two episodes which were pretty much pilots without a sponsor. I forget the order now, but Arlene Francis was the distaff member on one and Dorothy Kilgallen on the other. After that, they were the regular female panelists, replaced only on occasions when they were out of town or (in Dorothy's case) on maternity leave. Surprisingly, there was no mention of why Arlene was not present for this episode. At the end of the previous episode we were told that Herman Wouk was replacing Bennett Cerf, who would be in California. But Arlene had just come back from Japan earlier that month. I thought they might mention that she was under the weather (not unusual to catch a bug in a foreign country, especially back then), but no mention at all. It was rather odd. It also seemed a bit odd to bring out Dorothy first to sit in the second chair.
@loissimmons65587 жыл бұрын
Looking up something else, I found a quote from Arlene Francis that she was supposed to be on the first show but had a schedule conflict. So it was Dorothy on #1 and Arlene on #2.
@RayNDeere7 жыл бұрын
The final CBS episode had Arlene, Bennett, Steve and Martin Gabel making up the panel (Martin having made over 100 appearances on the panel in the past)
@AaronHahnStudios5 жыл бұрын
11:25 in. As a Outback Australian Born I can firmly state Dorothy is Correct. Kangaroo's have two feet and two hands, their brief use of them in contact with the ground is incidental.
@carolv84504 жыл бұрын
Interesting thx
@michaelnivens62674 жыл бұрын
Victor Is such a treasure - so hilarious
@bitscolumn10 жыл бұрын
I was so glad you uploaded this precious gem! Sad to realize, in less than 2 months, Fred would be gone.
@dianawardrip51712 жыл бұрын
I agree!!
@loissimmons65587 жыл бұрын
This was Steve Allen's first appearance on WML since he was a panelist on the 9/19/54 episode. During the interval was when they switched to the newer questioning method of only one question per turn for the panelist. Steve reminds himself of the new method the first time it was his turn with the MG.
@loissimmons65587 жыл бұрын
Victor Borge's accent and manner of speech was still very apparent despite his attempt to disguise his voice. While Steve Allen correctly guessed it, I think Dorothy Kilgallen also would have guessed correctly had the game play gotten back to her. It sounded like she knew once Borge affirmed that he was not born in the U.S.
@robbycan4 жыл бұрын
funniest celebrity guest I've seen!
@ronflatter12358 жыл бұрын
As of July 20, 2016, Herman Would at 101 is the oldest of 44 surviving panelists from the original WML.
@su84834 жыл бұрын
Wouk died May 17, 2019 in Palm Springs, CA.
@carollee4443 жыл бұрын
Victor Borge was so entertaining & funniy!
@peternagy-im4be2 жыл бұрын
No he most certainly wasn't.
@spongevee14 жыл бұрын
I have missed Steve😍
@scottpardee63033 жыл бұрын
I have too. I’m sorry that Fred passed, away, but I was getting turned of him. Steve is funny, but not intrusive on on others.
@imkerrusin2 жыл бұрын
Fred Allen: "Are you on television?" Victor Borge: "Right now." XD
@peternagy-im4be2 жыл бұрын
Not really funny is it?
@dalej424 жыл бұрын
That’s a great panel even missing Arlene and Bennett
@robertjean57827 ай бұрын
Agree totally 😊
@RalphOnofrio3 ай бұрын
Victor Borge was a comedy genius...and a great musician.
@orgonkothewildlyuntamed63019 жыл бұрын
Victor easily the greatest combo musician/comic his piano skills underrated because to play bad/backwards on purpose takes as much as skill as playing properly
@thecandidcounterbalance14926 жыл бұрын
Cool, I didn't know he used a piano that much in his acts.
@slaytonp4 жыл бұрын
He is funny, but I always tend to get a bit frustrated, because I really want to hear him play the piano--he is so good, but he never does. (This should be in the past tense, since he's dead, but I still look at all of this acts that are available on CD and You Tube, over and over.)
@mikejschin5 жыл бұрын
At 5:00, Fred says, "My chances are fatal". This is the third or fourth episode where he makes some reference to death. Wonder if he had a feeling that his end was near.
@ibnalhaytham5 жыл бұрын
I just made a comment to that effect in a reply above, but after your observation. Glad to see someone else noticed it.
@neilmidkiff5 жыл бұрын
His high blood pressure was not responding to treatment, and apparently some broadcasting opportunities had to be turned down in his last year or so because they were judged too strenuous for his condition, based on things I've read. I am not an expert on his biography, so don't know just what was the immediate cause of his death, but it's not surprising that he felt the end might be near.
@wmbrown64 жыл бұрын
@@neilmidkiff - Almost like Dorothy's "Oh, I'm dead" asides whenever she makes a guess she thinks could be wrong, in the months leading up to her death.
@dianawardrip51712 жыл бұрын
@@neilmidkiff I doubt that treatments for high blood pressure were very good in those days and food, nutrition advice was poor. He does often mention his nightly walks which were undoubtedly part of his treatment.
@gugurupurasudaikirai76203 жыл бұрын
Sneaky Dorothy, on that first guest she had one of her wheenies and Fred called for a conference. She gauged the audience's reaction and realized her wheenie was off so she told Fred not to use it. Basically getting in a free question. Good to see Steve Allen for the first time in a while and Fred's old friend and ex employee Herman Wouk again, this time on the panel
@steffybabes3 жыл бұрын
We used to always watch this on Sunday Night in the 50s.
@robertjean57827 ай бұрын
I hid behind the sofa and watched the show😊
@loissimmons65587 жыл бұрын
It amazes me that not only did WML bring back Victor Borge multiple times as a panelist (twice in 1954 and five more times after this episode during the run of the show), but John Daly once again lauds how funny he was as a panelist. There is humor that fits within the flow of the game and humor that detracts from it. Borge as a panelist was a complete disruption and distraction to the other panelists. I always enjoyed watching his performances on TV and I like him as an MG so I am not anti-Borge in general., Even so, I was ever so grateful that they had him as the MG and Steve Allen as the last minute substitute panelist and not the other way around.
@carolv84506 жыл бұрын
I agree - he is good when he performs on his own- not so as a panelist.
@ibnalhaytham5 жыл бұрын
@@carolv8450 Agree with both of you.
@bettycogswell98515 жыл бұрын
@@ibnalhaytham DO YOU GUYS NOT LIKE TO LAUGH?....VICTOR WAS HILARIOUS....
@accomplice554 жыл бұрын
@@bettycogswell9851: Yes, as the MG. Have you seen him as a panelist?
@bettycogswell98514 жыл бұрын
@@accomplice55 Yes I have...I love him..
@MrJoeybabe255 жыл бұрын
Is anyone else having a problem with low sound on this?
@asmrdadbod24832 жыл бұрын
Does seem a bit low, volume-wise
@cindypoderino4470 Жыл бұрын
I have that problem with alot of episodes, especially from the 50's.
@orgonkothewildlyuntamed6301 Жыл бұрын
what??
@yeahnoonecaresifyouarefirst Жыл бұрын
He said is anyone else having a problem with low sound on this
@robertjean57827 ай бұрын
@@cindypoderino4470kinescope wasn't always good on maintaining the volume😢
@peggywenzel90354 жыл бұрын
I agree I watch these shows instead of TV now
@MrJoeybabe255 жыл бұрын
Herman Wouk died last year 10 days short of 104 years of age.
@antoinepetrov Жыл бұрын
This is a good double feature with Oppenheimer
@thunderball69085 ай бұрын
There's something about Dorothy that reminds me of Hermione from Harry Potter.
@yawlltube4 жыл бұрын
"Thank you, Joyce Kilmer." LOL!
@lindanitzschke13152 жыл бұрын
Wouk died just 10 days before his 104th birthday! He had lost his first-born son a short time before the boy's 5th birthday in a drowning accident. Wouk later dedicated War and Remembrance to him with the Biblical words "בלע המות לנצח - He will destroy death forever" (Isaiah 25:8).
@jacquelinebell62012 жыл бұрын
Missed Steve Allen.
@laurahoward54262 жыл бұрын
John Daly seemed genuinely pleased that the atom.bomb tester watches the show
@Beson-SE10 жыл бұрын
Steve Allen looks very different in his new glasses.
@alanrabjohns4656 Жыл бұрын
Yes I've got volume up high as it goes and I can't hear a thing !
@hhale Жыл бұрын
I've noticed the issue with sound levels with other episodes as well, some are worse than others.
@robertjean57827 ай бұрын
@@hhaleit can't be fixed as they used kinescope 😢
@thecandidcounterbalance14926 жыл бұрын
24:17 - Hah, I guess this guest panelist is not a frequent WML viewer... Awkward! That's one way not to get invited back.
@joncheskin6 жыл бұрын
Kangaroo boxer and atomic bomb tester means a tough night for the panel. Good thing Victor Borge's voice disguise malfunctioned or they might have gone 0 for 3.
@ChrisHansonCanada Жыл бұрын
BOXES KANGAROO IN VAUDEVILLE ACT TESTS ATOM BOMBS
@broughtbackin4 ай бұрын
Herman Wouk died 10 days shy of his 104th birthday!
@ChrisHansonCanada2 жыл бұрын
Awkward moment at 24:18
@andrewm54027 жыл бұрын
Did I miss something? Where is Arlene?
@neilmidkiff5 жыл бұрын
You're right that her absence was not explained. On the following week, she was introduced as "just back from Florida" -- but on the previous week Bennett's trip to California was announced, and Bennett cautioned Arlene not to flirt with his panel substitute Herman Wouk. So it was Steve Allen who must have been a last-minute replacement for Arlene on the panel, not for Bennett as implied once here.
@laurahoward54262 жыл бұрын
Fred Allen died about 6 weeks after this
@peternagy-im4be2 жыл бұрын
Voice of doom.
@ferdberffle4 жыл бұрын
Too bad we can't hear it
@juliansinger9 жыл бұрын
I think Mr. Brent's kangaroo was named Sydney. (Sydney gets billing in Billboard and Mr. Brent doesn't, which is why I'm not positive.) Dr. Kloepper got his bachelors and masters degrees from the University of Kansas, his doctorate from Michigan, and had at least three kids. (And a wife.)
@loissimmons65587 жыл бұрын
I thought that Dr. Kloepper might have something to do with the University of Kansas as it is located in Lawrence, KS.
@geraldkatz79863 жыл бұрын
How interesting the man from Lawrence Kansas tests Atom Bombs when the infamous tv movie The Day After takes place in and around Lawrence Kansas, Kansas City being the city nuked for the purpose of the movie.
@flaggerify4 жыл бұрын
Sound on this one very low.
@bt10ant3 жыл бұрын
Herman Wouk died at 103, (in 2019).
@1928gerry4 жыл бұрын
My hearing isn't that bad but I haven't heard a word in this whole segment.
@hopicard11 жыл бұрын
Herman Wouk is still alive.
@WhatsMyLine11 жыл бұрын
He got one of his first breaks as a writer working on the staff of Fred Allen's radio show! I've read Wouk talking about it in an interview, saying that whatever small contributions the other writers made, f.a. completely rewrote every script personally, which is almost unparalleled by any other major comedian on radio OR television.
@jvcomedy10 жыл бұрын
You are right. He'll be 100 in May!
@dmann11158 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's really remarkable. Especially considering all the cigarette smoke he would have inhaled for so many decades - regardless of whether he was a smoker!
@su84834 жыл бұрын
Died May 17, 2019, Palm Springs, CA
@CountryAndClassics2 жыл бұрын
MORE VOLUME NEEDED!! Also, Do You not know about the "character map" settings in Windows? the E in Borgé
@caitlinfitzpatrick8367 жыл бұрын
With the first challenger, last I checked kangaroos only had two feet, not four. Silly John!
@caitlinfitzpatrick8367 жыл бұрын
Even though they qualify the hands as feet, I wouldn't have figured it that one out either.
@ladya19536 жыл бұрын
The handler said they walk on the front feet also, so classified as feet not hands.
@cathykinn45162 жыл бұрын
Was the Kangaroo Self Employed too?! Present day TV producers should take note of this show to see you can make an entertaining funny informative show w/o obscenities & with Real Talent, not just celebs.
@robertjean57827 ай бұрын
No chance😊
@MrJoeybabe255 жыл бұрын
From a distance could one mistake the second contestant for Bennett?
@lllowkee65332 жыл бұрын
No atomic bombs in the home at this date, not even a microwave oven.
@robertjean57827 ай бұрын
😅
@steventuck15243 жыл бұрын
WHY IS THE VOLUME SO LOW???
@MrJoeybabe255 жыл бұрын
How much was the best hotel room in Manhattan in 1956? More than 50 clams? Were the out of towners put up at the show's expense?
@calliopivogiatzis22353 жыл бұрын
If anyone knows this,please comment. Was dorothy killgallen's husband ever considered a suspect in her death since there was a lot of infidelity in the marriage?
@JanetM-ro6xc Жыл бұрын
There are those who contend that he murdered her based on his alcoholism, jealousy of her numerous successes,her infidelity ( he was a serial cheater),and her child,Kerry, whom.he disowned and threw out as a teenager. She had created other enemies due her meanness in columns. However, her husband was the most likely culprit. She did not commit suicide.
@El_Ophelia5 жыл бұрын
I just realized I think Dorothy had a cleft lip or palette. I've noticed her lip on the right side has a vertical scar. Something tells me she might have been delivered with forceps and that might be what contributed to what we perceive as an altered mouth and chin.
@davidsanderson59184 жыл бұрын
Lilly Beans An interesting spot. There's a fold on her lip to the right side. Mind you, the shadows created by the lighting have over-emphasised all manner of aspects since the very first episode. The lovely Arlene for instance only needs to turn slightly to her left and suddenly dark areas appear round the eyes and crows feet show on her forehead. The combination of lighting and b&w is so harsh and unflattering particularly on the regular women panellists. Nevertheless Kilgallen always stirs my curiosity. From day one I've found her peculiar beauty fascinating.
@accomplice554 жыл бұрын
I can't find any evidence that she had a cleft palate. A forceps delivery, perhaps, but that's nothing like a cleft palate.
@keithnaylor19813 жыл бұрын
Tests Atom Bombs - perhaps the ones that go bang are put on one side to be used again later.
@LarsRyeJeppesen7 жыл бұрын
18:42 wtf? lmao
@loissimmons65587 жыл бұрын
Snippets from when it was taped from being shown on GSN, I presume. They are sprinkled in a few places throughout the video, apparently someone a split second slow hitting the pause button. It's not worth Gary's time and effort to remove those split second clips. Don't worry, it's not subliminal advertising. I haven't yet been led to contact an 800# law firm!
@MrYfrank146 жыл бұрын
that was the bomb tester's wife. John just said the bomb tester and his wife never miss what's my line. that was the wife watching what's my line.
@robertjean57827 ай бұрын
@@loissimmons6558Also not worth time for volume😊
@davidsanderson59184 жыл бұрын
HOORAY!! STEVE ALLEN. Hopefully he can show the other Allen here how it's done! If only the other Allen would shut up.
@JanetM-ro6xc Жыл бұрын
Steve Allen had a genius level IQ. It was always a pleasure to see him on TV.
@kristabrewer93635 жыл бұрын
This is the 3rd episode where Fred said that Steve was his son. What's up with that?
@davidsanderson59184 жыл бұрын
Krista Brewer Desperate, isn't it?
@accomplice554 жыл бұрын
Fred thinks it's funny. It's not.
@robertjean57827 ай бұрын
Just being a comedian 😊
@xanderytube Жыл бұрын
I think Dorothy was right, kangaroos do run bipedally...
@hhale Жыл бұрын
They bound or hop, they don't actually run per se, though they do so bipedally the largest ones can do so at speeds of 40-45 mph in typically in short bursts.
@orgonkothewildlyuntamed6301 Жыл бұрын
partially incorrect answer to Fred for saying kangaroo was smaller than him they can grow to 8' tall & 200 lbs & I know for sure Fred isn't that tall so answer should have been "yes & no" or "sometimes"
@robertjean57827 ай бұрын
The ones this boxer had were smaller then Fred😅
@cidalianeves75855 жыл бұрын
wow, the guy that testes atom bombs says he hopes they make some good....
@El_Ophelia5 жыл бұрын
They worked. We're at peace with Japan.
@thesweeples32662 жыл бұрын
@@El_Ophelia 👍
@ChrisHansonCanada2 жыл бұрын
Was Dorothy checking out Victor's butt as he walked off?
@mariechristensen83903 жыл бұрын
Regarding the man with the kangaroos…thank god we have animal rights now
@thesweeples32662 жыл бұрын
Eat your hamburger
@robertjean57827 ай бұрын
They we're never abused😊
@sbalman2 жыл бұрын
Yeah...those atom bombs do so much good. Cannot believe he said that.
@thesweeples32662 жыл бұрын
As an instrument of international politics and defense they have provided one of the longest periods of major conflicts in history.
@markfurnell6748 Жыл бұрын
@@thesweeples3266 SOON TO BE ENDED, ALAS.
@lilybean8356 жыл бұрын
With all due respect, Fred Allen is excruciating to watch. His delivery is so slow and laboured, and he's too forced. He spends too much time trying to get his jokes in and pausing a very long time until he gets the laughter he wants. I've come to dread every episode he's on.
@ibnalhaytham5 жыл бұрын
I must agree. I know some fans of the show love his humor, but I only found one or two of his remarks funny at all. Sad to say, considering his end was near, but true.
@robbob12344 жыл бұрын
I've come to dread every episode you comment on Fred.
@davidsanderson59184 жыл бұрын
He was awful. Not found him the least bit funny since he first sat on the panel.
@kovvvas4 жыл бұрын
I really like Fred Allen. His funniness is subtle
@wmbrown64 жыл бұрын
They did say Fred Allen had a face for radio . . .
@trock6577 Жыл бұрын
Victor Borge lived about a mile from me in Southbury,Ct in the fifties on a farm that raised Cornish game hens. I never thought he was that amusing, just goofy.