Larry Bird & Kobe Bryant | Nick Wright's Top 50 NBA Players of the Last 50 Years | 7 & 6

[@WhatsWrightShow]

Did Nick get it right this week?

[@Wala_Magic_KCMO]

Nah kobe won with out top 75 player. Timmy always had help. He wasn't the bus driver on all 5 rings.

[@reganhatcher1579]

@@Wala_Magic_KCMO was Kobe the bus driver on all 5 rings? Lol. What top 75 help did Duncan have?

[@DrShwazz]

@@reganhatcher1579 Lol best player was David Robinson and he was only there for the first two rings. He was basically washed by time they won the 2003 one.

[@reganhatcher1579]

@@DrShwazz yes Robinson was in the team but Duncan was the better player from 98-99 on. Kobe had prime Shaq so was replying to the ridiculous comment above lol

[@seriousaleks8752]

I was really hoping to get Nick's reaction to recent KD news

[@asare240]

Time really does have a way of making people forget how incredibly great these players were. Wish i was alive to see Larry Legend play

[@calicoesblue4703]

No. Micheal Jordan put up 63 points on Larry Bird & the Celtics.... Larry Bird is Overrated🤷

[@hassanbaig5238]

Better than you

[@philipaguila6202]

Fun fact :Larry bird also the first player who created the 50 40 90 club in 1980s such a legend

[@danielllll521]

I personally have Kobe over Duncan (massive bias included obviously) but I think it's foolish if anyone is actually upset over Nick's rankings. Kobe is the perfect embodiment of this, just appreciate greatness while it lasts because one day before you know it, it'll be gone.

[@diegobromfield]

These media types CONTINUE to put Duncan over Kobe which is just silly to me.

[@wilkic2]

@@diegobromfield not silly. He was better, accomplished more

[@jonathanbatista6135]

@@wilkic2 he had more help. Kobe had Shaq and Phil Jackson, Duncan had The Admiral, Manu, Tony, Popovich, and Kawaii. The Spurs are also a MUCH better run organization, so if anything you could say Kobe achieved to much with such disfunction

[@Jorge-jo8oq]

@@diegobromfield why? He never had a losing season and won just as many titles. He wasn’t didn’t force the powerful force of all time out of town and make his own coach quit. Kobe is amazing, but he’s the beginning of the selfish generation that creates these delusional, empty stat players of this generation…ala harden and Westbrook

[@xavierjamieson462]

This list isn’t most talented players it’s essentially best careers/legacy. Duncan had arguably more accomplished career I personally don’t think so but it’s close. Yes he was more of a product of a system than Kobe but that doesn’t matter for these rankings. I think most people would admit even Duncan fans that he wasn’t a more talented player

[@michaelsledge3904]

Kobe in 09 was on a mission. Period

[@diallo1347]

I still think the Left hand game is still impressive. I write with my right, but I shoot a basketball and Bows with my left. If I had to switch I can but it doesn't feel natural. Larry Legend lives on.

[@JREAM302]

Boycott it first things first. Im sick of this clown talking down on kobe cause hes in love lebron. Go to instagram

[@Explorativecreator]

Thankful for your content on a Sunday… like all Sundays

[@Nbafan2000]

As a Kobe fan I love this. I have Kobe top five of the last 50. But this is a solid ranking. Love it. Good job nick 👌🏻

[@Horsbreh]

I think *one* of the things which holds Bird back from being even higher (and is something that isn't talked about enough) is the fact that he lost several winnable playoff series despite having homecourt advantage (and homecourt was a HUGE advantage back then).

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

He was also an inconsistent playoff performer

[@RL-ww5ev]

@@IknowMoreThanYou 24/10/7 🤦‍♂️

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

@@RL-ww5ev notorious choker in finals games sir

[@danielfreer8487]

it's actually mostly because of his back that he isn't ranked higher. dude won like crazy with a bad back, if he had been entirely healthy his entire career he'd be at jordan status. people would be arguing for lebron as 3rd not 2nd.

[@Abbad1579]

@@RL-ww5ev His efficiency dropped

[@randywatson2103]

Looking forward to it Nick. I’ve learnt lots about baseball over the past couple of months 👌👍

[@Gail-Lewis-Goat]

Basketball ni66a

[@csb9434]

​@@Gail-Lewis-Goat i love baseball ⚾️

[@andim.8788]

I know learn a lot about Montana and rice nick is great

[@Kruppt808]

Nick taught me he becoming a lawyer isn't that hard. Unless you have to go to law school

[@bestdressedtrapper763]

"Learnt"😂🤣

[@jfree672]

lmao "he had to win with shaq" as if it was an hinderance. that caller was a clown

[@xcwilliams7980]

Playing with Shaq was definitely a hindrance* on Kobe's personal success. If he doest play with Shaq he probably catches Kareem. If he doesn't play with Shaq he probably doesn't play in the middle of his prime with Smuch Parker, Luke Walton, and Kwame in the starting line up. If he doesn't play with Shaq he possibly has 3 or 4 rings, 3 or 4 finals mvps, 2 or 3 reg season MVPs, and most points ever. He'd be higher in this list in that scenario.

[@csb9434]

@@xcwilliams7980 no lol. Kobe wasn't in his prime at that point and definitely wasn't winning any of those rings without another all-time great on his team, and no reason he would've won more MVPs either--if anything Shaq would've been winning them on a different team since he was the better player at the time. he also definitely would not have caught Kareem--there's no way he would've averaged 8 more ppg over those 8 seasons if Shaq wasn't there. playing with Shaq 100% gives Kobe a boost because of their team success, not a hindrance.

[@voodoocustompickups2547]

He went to what, 3 finals without Shaq winning 2 of them? And only because in 2008 he ran into the Celtics. The "Shaq" argument was squashed in 2010

[@MJsPepsihair]

@@xcwilliams7980 If he doesn't play with Shaq, he isn't this high on the list

[@TellyGianoulis]

@@xcwilliams7980 Brooo if he doesn't play with Shaq he only has 2 rings get real

[@JeiSun45]

I got Kobe over Duncan… at the end of day they both got 5 rings, and Kobe was just a more dominant player and a won the playoff battle against Duncan

[@traybryant4722]

My favorite episode so far, changed my overall outlook on you too Nick

[@hurt4alleternity]

I have Kobe over Duncan but I'm not mad at the placing, glad he put Kobe over bird I never understand that one, I understand the Duncan argument I just think Kobe was better that's more of a pick em

[@williamkoscielniak7871]

What's not to understand with Kobe vs Bird? Kobe had longevity and he played with Shaq. Bird was undoubtedly the more dominant player.

[@terricarter9435]

@@williamkoscielniak7871 Bird played with Mchale Parrish possibly 1 of the most loaded teams ever so wtf r u talking about?

[@AlexBrown-xp7mt]

The reason for putting bird higher is that bird was a far better player at his peak than Kobe.

[@vanlian7571]

@@williamkoscielniak7871 ye u off ur rockers bruh, bird won with one of the most stacked teams ever. you cant say the same for kobe 07-10 team

[@williamkoscielniak7871]

@@terricarter9435 Neither of those players are Shaq, and Bird took the team without McHale or Parish to the number one seed in the east and an eastern conference finals appearance as a rookie. The very next year when they got Parish and a ROOKIE McHale they won the championship. He had to continually face Dr. J, Moses Malone and the Sixers, Sidney Moncrief and the Bucks, the Bad Boy Pistons, the Hakeem Rockets, and the Show time Lakers. Kobe played far longer than Bird and wound up with more rings. That's his argument over Bird. Being a better player, however, is not an argument. Kobe never, ever, EVER reached Bird's heights.

[@ericdupree8603]

Bird, Kobe, & Duncan are so interchangeable. They are in my 5-7 spots as well.

[@Chronz]

Shaq is clearly better than all 3

[@mindyourbuisness8104]

@@Chronz ya shaq gets under rated because he should of been even better and people penalize him for it

[@xcwilliams7980]

@@Chronz no

[@Chronz]

@@xcwilliams7980 easily

[@Alex-ud6zr]

@@Chronz Ok Skip Bayless

[@cjjoachim3277]

Nick gotta make the distinction that Kobe missed the playoffs due to injuries to him and his second best player

[@AlwaysEwok]

Doesn’t matter when it happens to Lebron so why would he mention it for Kobe? It’s fair tho but these top 10 guys gotta be held to top 1/2 standard

[@LakeShow-2481]

@@AlwaysEwok your logic is terrible. “It doesn’t matter when it happens to Lebron” you’re asking a subjective question then answering the question urself. It didn’t matter to Nick, does it matter to you?

[@brotherblack8961]

Kobe missed the playoffs in his prime fam

[@250lifestyle9]

Him and Lamar both missed 16+ games

[@12gark]

@@250lifestyle9 yes, 16. You are a 53? 55W team, so you win 2/3 of your games, your star misses 16 games (and win 1/3 of them), you end up with 48 or 49 wins. They won 34 games. That's terrible. This year Lebron missed 26 games and Davis missed 42, and still won basically the same amount of games (33). Nobody would argue that injuries aside, this year's Lakers was a good team. It wasn't.

[@saiyerugara9038]

Potentially the best video in this series imo!

[@Tonio5100]

Funny how EVERYONE Nick said held the "best player in the world" title was also tied to WINNING TITLES but with Kobe he dismissed the titles to say LeBron who won ZERO titles was the "best in the world" 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@swpdisciple]

You can tell by the quality of play though. 2007-2011 the eye test and analytics say Lebron in those years was so far ahead of the rest of the league. At that point the narrative became “how much of LBJ’s prime will be wasted before he wins a title?”

[@Tonio5100]

@@swpdisciple Even tho LeBron out his own mouth was saying Kobe was better than him around that time 🤔

[@fabricefrancois8195]

LeBron is an exception to the rules that’s what makes him the GOAT

[@Tonio5100]

@@fabricefrancois8195 Yeah when you have to make an "exception" for a particular player so he can be included with other that DID SOMETHING HE DIDN'T DO of course its EASY to be a FAKE GOAT....... Name another GOAT from ANY other major sport with a LOSING championship record thats considered the GOAT of that sport 🤔

[@swpdisciple]

@@Tonio5100 people say all kinds of things in false humility. Magic Johnson says Kobe is the greatest Laker. You believe him?

[@Privateryannnn]

I too have Kobe ahead of Duncan but that guy made the absolute worst points you could imagine. Easily dismantled his argument. That guy sucks 😭😭

[@xcwilliams7980]

Bruh, got us looking bad lol

[@FletchMo100]

Facts

[@ericdupree8603]

Mentioned Odom and Bynum, but leaves off the two most important players for Kobe in 2010.

[@yeahprep1880]

Hey remember Duncan had the same coach for 20 years literally in the top 10 there’s only three players tachometer close to such a claim to have the same amount of rings as someone that had the same coach when I had 3 to 5 different cultures speaks volumes

[@samevins1567]

That might have been the worst argument I’ve ever heard

[@BigMikeBell1]

I am surprised that Nick didn't put Kobe further down the list.

[@juwilball]

When kobe died Nick changed his tune a lot. He's fake he needs to keep that same energy for kobe that he had when he was alive

[@ExilixE]

@@juwilball i think he said he had him 11th before he died. 🤡🤡

[@juwilball]

@@ExilixE yea him and Shannon use to down him cuz they lebron fans. Nick went hard at him though.

[@DFlowetry]

@@ExilixE Nick always said Kobe was 7th or 8th when he was alive. He never said Kobe was 11th goofy.

[@calicoesblue4703]

Micheal Jordan put up 63 points on Larry Bird & the Celtics.... Larry Bird is Overrated🤷

[@Felixthecat888]

I’m glad somebody finally puts Duncan over Bird in the all time rankings.

[@QFerg]

Me too

[@DrShwazz]

Duncan over/under Kobe is the debate most people have issues with as I’ve noticed lol.

[@kushmaster210]

Been saying Duncan > kobe

[@richterscale7456]

If we are not penalizing Bird for longevity he belongs ahead of Duncan

[@juyahmad]

Same. Duncan is literally one of the most underrated all time great players in nba history

[@PrincipalSkinner3190]

Nick values longevity and consistency over peaks, so this ranking makes sense. I value peaks more personally.

[@kennedywatson521]

If this is the case why isn’t steph ahead of Bird? Seriously

[@DJSpinczar]

the timmy disrespect is just hilarious - Tim Duncan is one of THREE players in NBA history to finish in the top 15 for: All NBA Team Selections, All NBA Defensive Team Selections, All Star Appearances, NBA Championships, NBA MVPs, and NBA Finals MVPs. He is one of TWELVE players to win back-to-back MVP awards. In playoff time, Tim Duncan is one of only FOUR players to finish in top 10 for playoff wins, points, rebounds, free throws, and blocks. He is one of only NINE players to NEVER miss the playoffs in his entire career. In the span of his career, the Spurs had the highest winning percentage of ANY team in ANY sport. He is the ONLY player in NBA history to have 18-straight 50+ win seasons. He, as an individual, has more 50 win seasons than 26 ENTIRE TEAMS. He is the ONLY player in NBA history to start and win a championship in three different decades.

[@isaacsmith3901]

Kobe> Duncan 1)Duncan is an all time great defender for his position and Kobe is an all time great defender for his position but Kobe is miles ahead of Duncan offensively. Despite Kobe demanding more defensive coverage/attention, and shooting almost 50% more than Duncan they have almost identical career TS%…. Kobe also was a higher usage player but has a lower career Turnover% 2) When u compare them in the same era Kobe was more dominated. In the 00’s Kobe went to 7 Finals (5-2) on 2 completely different rosters while also having a complete rebuild in the middle. Kobe 4-1 All time when they met in their primes in the playoffs w/ Kobe almost always torching the Spurs as the best player in the series 3) While both were actually playing in 00’s and early 10’s majority of people had Kobe>Duncan…. I don’t get how that changes years later when both haven’t played another game

[@IsHeARealOneVadaRealMC]

Well argued

[@aaronblack6590]

You can’t just say “well they’re both all time great defenders” like it’s not an ocean sized gap between them. He’s also THE best defender ever, maybe worth putting that over “an all time great” lol. Timmy was leagues above Kobe defensively, took over games even on that end of the court. Kobe could shoot better and shot a lot more often than Timmy, but Timmy was ultra consistent in the playoffs and through his career. Ofc Kobe scores more taking 5-15 extra shots per game than him on much worse efficiency 🤣 Rebounding and blocks are obv not a fair comparison, but assists only being 1.7 different is kinda suspect.

[@blackanimelover18]

This is a bit disingenuous. I'd argue that the gap between Kobe and Duncan defensively is wider than the gap between them offensively.

[@Kruppt808]

Kobe had Shaq for 3 rings. Duncan didn't have anyone close to that. Shaq prime dominance will always be used against Kobe in these types of comparisons.

[@isaacsmith3901]

@@Kruppt808 Yeah and I don’t get it. U can’t minimize or discredit what Kobe did cuz he played with Shaq. No one does this with Magic and Kareem (both players who are in majority of peoples top 5 all time). Bird, Duncan, Kareem, Magic etc. weren’t FMVP for every chip. What matters is how they actually played. By the 1st chip (00’) a 21 yr old Kobe was already being considered as the best 2 way SG in the NBA. By the 2nd chip (01’) a 22 yr old Kobe was already at the very least a top 5 player in the NBA. Kobe literally made 1st team All NBA every year from 01-13 (except in 05 when he missed time with injury).

[@waltereaton4420]

Interesting rankings. Agree with many of Nick's points. Personally, if I were starting an NBA team, I'd take Bird over Kobe or Magic.

[@jonseversike]

I know he wasn't named on the NBA's list, but Pau Gasol is one of the 75 greatest players ever.

[@xcwilliams7980]

Hes not a top 25 player of the past 25 year, which is really what the list is.

[@sareaper69]

I'm sure you think Kobe is top 5 aswell

[@nicksteadman6823]

So who you taking out?

[@murphyburger7717]

@@xcwilliams7980 no it isn't

[@xcwilliams7980]

@@murphyburger7717 yes it basically is, because they didn't remove any players who were originally in the top 50

[@williest1]

Ironically, after hearing this Larry Bird breakdown I would place Shaq higher on this list.

[@derandiusmcdonald8069]

Rewatch his videos then

[@zacharygutshall8452]

I wouldn't. Bird is the greatest overall player ever

[@thedivinekingllc.7327]

If you listen to the players from the United States Olympic team in 2008 it's clear who the best player in the world was.

[@youngdb9446]

Exactly ignore what the players say n quote and instead create a narrative like nick wrong

[@chasingfelix3609]

This is false. He may have been the dominant persona at the time but not the best player. Giannis is a better player than LeBron right now (even if LeBron won a title) but he’d be taking all the shots down the stretch of an All Star Game because he’s LeBron.

[@terrystyles3486]

Bleacher report top 50 best NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron a better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 37,062✔️ Kobe 33,643 Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 3. Elvin Hayes 13,296 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron Total 3pointers made LeBron 2,140✔️ Kobe 1,827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,136✔️ Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,041✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 75.59✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings dont mean better player Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series LeBron 16-6 winning record owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt and most missed shots in the NBA history isnt even top 10 player all time thats why Bleacher report has him #14 LeBron best player 2009 in NBA Kobe just had best team Lakers with greatest head coach Phil Jackson

[@youngdb9446]

@@terrystyles3486 most turnovers Lebron less defensive teams more stacked teams and more finals losses with two sweeps and no 3 peat

[@Kruppt808]

@@youngdb9446 no team LBJ was on was ever better than the Kobe shaq Lakers. He literally had a top 10 player carry 3 rings. If LBJ had a Shaq , he'd have 8 to 10 rings by now perhaps plus Phil Jackson and Laker management.

[@MJMJ-oc6sm]

Hi Nick, nice list of Top 50 NBA Players of the Last 50 years. I have the same list as yours but few are in different ranking. I have a few situational question for you, from your top 50 NBA players to whom you want the basketball with if the game is on the line, last 5 seconds of the 4th quarter. The opposing team lead 2 points, who do you want to inbound the ball? make play? shoot to win? shoot to tie? and rebound in case the shot missed?

[@garfieldGG]

Kobe was the 2nd best player on 3 of those championship teams. Edit: OMG it was never a battle who was number 1 between him and Shaq. SHAQ during those titles was undisputed the best player on the team.

[@xcwilliams7980]

Shaq was the best player in the World at that time, and for the 2nd and 3rd years kobe was arguably the 2nd best player in the world. And for some series he definitely was the best player on the series.

[@TellyGianoulis]

@@xcwilliams7980 No way Duncan was better than Kobe in those years

[@persephone9360]

that last caller got absolutely fried 😂💀

[@Kidkinsey]

Ty made a great point. If Luka won a mvp then 2 rings in a 3 year stretch he’d probably have him top 10 all time😭

[@bradhicks5558]

The caller at the end: Wearing a Lakers jersey and lobbying for Kobe over Duncan. No cred whatsoever.

[@carteljameson8395]

Duncan ahead of Kobe has always been a no brainer for me tbh. Duncan is in most people's top 10 but I still think he's underrated.

[@kushmaster210]

Because these fan boys aka Kobe fans toxic asf

[@Darren.C.Williamson]

I believe Isiah won two straight and went to 3 straight without another top 75 if memory serves. In response to Chris call

[@yogidabear4027]

He tried to save himself by saying top ten conversation but I think time Duncan did it too

[@ebwonstia]

Rodman

[@ebwonstia]

The three players to do it are DUNCAN 05,07 KOBE 09,10 CURRY 15,22

[@jfree672]

gotta love that both kobe defenders are wearing lakers jerseys during the call. oozing with objectivity

[@Abbad1579]

😂😂

[@Joes35]

Lol nick is probably the most biased analyst out there. He’s pretty much a younger and better version of Skip

[@Abbad1579]

@@Joes35 Except he's right this time

[@blackphillip564]

There are no Kobe defenders. Their Kobe's boyfriends.

[@mrwelch2004]

Just noticed if you shifted Hakeem to PF, you could field a first and second string all time teams as 5 through 1 will all be different positions and 10 to 6 is as well with the exception of Shaq and Hakeem.

[@michaelmcmillan983]

Love ya Nick- Kobe was the best player in the league until 2010- then Lebron took over it.

[@kylemitchell5512]

Best player in the league until 2013**

[@jetsettech8804]

@@kylemitchell5512 no no it was 2010

[@DWADEDABEST243]

Nick has it right lol

[@kushmaster210]

Kobe was already broken down by 2012 while Duncan was in back to back finals

[@jonathanbatista6135]

@@kushmaster210 what? Lol 2013 Kobe averaged 27, and got them to the first round. And Kobe had just won 2 rings with 3 finals appearances, while Duncan hadn't gone since 07 stop it

[@chrisoneill4865]

Bird technically was 50-40-90 for four straight years. And has a defensive rating higher than Rodman.

[@akeemMagic01]

He wasn't a Better defender

[@DannyPR6]

Luka being already 20 all time in Nick’s list, really invalidates the whole thing, crazy ridiculous

[@csb9434]

can't believe he had Luka ahead of Trae Young

[@pollothekinglawler281]

Chill, it’s his list lmao 😂

[@csb9434]

@@pollothekinglawler281 he's supposed to be dripping with objectivity

[@XxN0NUk3B005T3RS25xX]

@@csb9434 as should lol

[@XxN0NUk3B005T3RS25xX]

Make your own list with the research behind it. I bet it's awful

[@Fernando_616]

I like that Sliding Doors reference lol

[@dbuckner1997]

Most defensive teams by any guard

[@QuestionEverything562]

I would say 4 of them were not truly earned.

[@thomaslee2558]

@@QuestionEverything562 i would agree he’s got several by his name and Kobes my fav all time bigger names get in popularity contest for these awards at times

[@zogood3495]

@@QuestionEverything562 I'm glad I am not the only one who thinks that. Imo D-Wade should've had a couple of those 1st team All-Def especially 08-09 & 09-10 Wade had slightly more DWS & better DBPM compared to Kobe.

[@evandupree6085]

People in the comments disrespecting Duncan. Dude was championships in 3 decades and in 2003 beat Kobe and Shaq together to go on an win a championship with a rookie Parker and Ginnobli. And he’s arguably a top 5-7 defensive player ever.

[@tyrekbartley2296]

He had good team for 10+ yrs and he still went to less finals. You can even remember a Duncan highlight except the one over shaq.

[@cowboysfanlonghornsfanspur5132]

@@tyrekbartley2296 hate more he’s better then Shaq

[@Joshwork13]

“The only other guy to average 20 10 and 5 in the playoffs is Giannis”.. uh Nick you’re conveniently leaving out a large Serbian 2x MVP who has a current playoff average of 26 11 and 6.

[@keithdeibert2978]

Can’t wait to see nuggets at full strength next year. It’s a shame Barton won’t be there

[@Kruppt808]

Won't have the excuses finally, when they get stomped in the playoffs.

[@nov11794]

Back to Back

[@Dboyd428]

I agree with pretty much your whole list so far. Great podcast Nick!

[@WorldBeater123]

Nicks burner account spotted

[@Kruppt808]

@@WorldBeater123 be more original troll bot

[@WorldBeater123]

@@Kruppt808 Nick is that you?

[@leonsmith6428]

I can't be the only one here that's looking forward to Nick doing GOAT JAMES...

[@brentt8940]

Hahaha. Im surprised Nick doesn’t have Jordan like out of top 5. Nick and skip Bayless are flat out haters. But can be entertaining

[@coreythomas3633]

@@brentt8940 GOAT JAMES.

[@kevindownes9474]

Lebron himself would've put Kobe ahead of him back in 08 the vast majority of media and pretty much the entire league of players agreed that Kobe was the best in the world and it really wasn't close. Nick's in a small minority here

[@250lifestyle9]

He did say Kobe was better kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIvFcptnrLWihKs

[@dariusb7322]

Nick is hater never liked Kobe

[@coreythomas3633]

@@dariusb7322 no nick is right about lebron

[@juwilball]

Lebron wasn't better than kobe in 08 see 2011 finals you think kobe in 11 loses to that dallas team if you put him on the Heat roster lol

[@dariusb7322]

@@coreythomas3633 you probably yelled Kobe wen u shoot never heard someone say Lebron wen they shot.

[@SaimuKala]

LeBron in 2008-2010 might've been the better player statistically, but not overall. 2011 finals showed he wasn't mentally ready to lead a team to a championship yet. Same with Giannis in 2018 - statistically better than everyone but not over the hump yet.

[@MrMillefail]

Yes! exactly the comparison i was looking for. Lebron 2007-2010 was Giannis 2017-2020. Except Giannis succeded in 2021 when Lebron brainfarted in 2011. Also not only his fault, the Mavs are always a good defensive team and prepared defensive schemes that were entirely new, focused on pacing and timing when during the post-handcheck era until then, defense was mostly spacing. Everybody copied them after that, but they had really clever defenders.

[@ericdupree8603]

@@MrMillefail What crazy is right around when Lebron was consistently hitting his stride in the playoffs is when D-Wade started breaking down, kinda like Khris Middleton now.

[@johnnieclemons2921]

Lebron james gots 4 rings, 4fmvps and 4 mvp. Quit hating di*k

[@toptier6132]

Stats are kinda overrated...Westbrook have better stats than curry but curry is better Elgin Baylor has better stats than lebron but lebron is better

[@coreythomas3633]

LEBRON WAS THE BEST SINCE 07.

[@jedwards40]

I admit my bias as a Kobe fan, but watching this made me think about how gross Max Kellerman’s take on Kawhi being more clutch than Kobe was. Puts them up 3-1 against the Kings with no Shaq in OT. Then scores 48!! in a close out for the sweep and he’s not even 23 yet!

[@Fraudkovic]

Bozo kobe elimination game stats are 22 5 3 on abysmal efficiency. Give me Leonard anyday. An efficient sniper who will play dpoy level defense when it matters most

[@TellyGianoulis]

Kobe was horrible on the clutch. His teammates were always bailing him out with game winners….

[@anthonycoronadojr.1778]

Guys saying bozo give you Leonard who doesn’t play through any injuries give me Kobe who won a run with a broken finger on his shooting hands clowns

[@chrisrenshaw6291]

@@TellyGianoulis false kobe scored 81 points

[@TellyGianoulis]

@@chrisrenshaw6291 He wouldn't pass the ball and his efficiency was horrible

[@ry31984]

Brosaurd was wrong Duncan did it in 05 and 07 without top 75 teammate to win a title. Plus top 75 is subjective anyways. No team never won a chip without 2 all-star quality players anyways.

[@csb9434]

It's true Duncan definitely did it and also 03 Robinson was well into decline. But yeah Parker/Ginobili both close to top 75, so is Pau though.

[@cezaryadamski8786]

No team has ever won without 2 all star quality players except Hakeem in 1994 and to some extent 2011 Dallas

[@ry31984]

@@cezaryadamski8786 Kidd and Marion was all-star quality players. Kidd is all-time great top 75. Thrope was an all-star in 92 and was the Rockets second best player in 94. He lead the team in rebounds in the Finals against the Knicks.

[@markshields5883]

I would always have Bird in my all-time starting 5

[@vision910]

I Also got Bird in my Top 7 ..if he played longer without the back injures def a top 5 player al-ltime

[@rgreen1107]

@@vision910 ridiculous reason ! Bird played injured his whole career ! Didn’t stop him from becoming the greatest all around player in history !

[@javigar133]

FACTS

[@ovgb222]

Great job at diving into the numbers, Nick, as a real historian of the game 👌. Looking forward for your top 5. Hopefully, this amazing job opened your eyes on the #1 spot. At the end of the day, nothing beats a 6-0 in the finals with 6 final MVPs, regardless of all the other accolades on and outside the court, if you know what I mean :). If not, there is still some time to edit your last vid. Happy 4th of July!

[@karvelrobinson7672]

Top 5 is easy at this point. He’s going to put #5Duncan #4magic #3Kareem #2jordan #LeBron

[@karvelrobinson7672]

I said this before the end lol

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

Nah He gonna make some weak argument to put Kareem ahead of Mike lol

[@goldysnkrs7424]

He gonna put Kareem 2nd which is gonna discredit the whole list

[@thommccarthy1139]

Nick is a troll so Mike will be 3.

[@coreythomas3633]

@@IknowMoreThanYou Kareem has 6 chips and all time leading scorer smh yea

[@bradhicks5558]

For Bird, you didn't mention that he won Rookie of the Year (1979-80).

[@mindyourbuisness8104]

I'd have bird at 4 or 5 because I care more about apex then regular season compilation stats

[@UShouldLaugh]

Dang so how high do you have Shaq? Who had arguably the highest apex.

[@rodneyperry7940]

Bird also elevated McHale and Parish to great players. They would have only been above average players without him.

[@Kruppt808]

3 mvp = he should be higher I think

[@discxography]

thanks for the continued great content nick love the series

[@rogerf111]

I like how he completely ignored Broussard.

[@peskaka15]

because he is a Bronsexual. Brushed aside the defensive teams too, twice as many as his guy

[@csb9434]

ya me too pretty funny

[@DFlowetry]

Kobe was the best player in the league from 2003-2010

[@hannibalburgess7517]

It's crazy people keep say kevin garnett didn't have nobody in Minnesota when he had stephon Marbury and Jr rider

[@Jaik71]

Larry bird at his peak is the goat 6-0 vs Michael in playoff series

[@jonnstewart2023]

So ig context isn't a thing

[@terrystyles3486]

Wrong Celtics was 6-0 vs Bulls Jordan and Bird didnt face 1on1 it was 5on5 team vs team Larry Bird had hall of famers Dennis Johnson, Kevin McHale, Bill Walton, Robert Parish

[@Sf75178]

@@terrystyles3486 exactly. Using team performance to say one player is better than another is obe of the dumbest arguments out there

[@bryanpatterson909]

Chris Broussard what about Tim Duncan chips in 05 and 07 I don’t believe any other top 75 players was on those teams if I’m wrong someone let me know

[@MrKT410]

1. Michael Jordan 2. Lebron James 3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 4. Magic Johnson 5. Larry Bird 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 8. Kobe Bryant 9. Steph Curry 10. Hakeem Olajuwon

[@danielmonsalve5304]

I think they should add stats on the screen, it's kind of hard to follow

[@DavidThompson-lm3tb]

This is definitely by far the best List I’ve seen in the NBA my life

[@christianwalker5360]

Lol I know y’all see the tennis chains he rocking though 💀 that boy eatin good

[@rgreen1107]

I guarantee Bird beats any player on this list 2 out of three categories ! Shooting , passing and rebounding ! Greatest all around player in history ! And If not Bird ? Who ? And this ranking is the most ridiculous one I’ve seen or heard ! He even has KOBE ahead of LARRY …. Complete nonsense !

[@javigar133]

FACTS

[@Jota__007]

Nick where did you rank Pau, close to the 50th?

[@jzam]

Kobe over Duncan for the main fact that he navigated a career of different lineups and different coaches and still won the same amount of titles as Timmy with a career that was arguably better and one where he elevated his team more. Debates about which of the two was actually better are always gonna be there but the consistency provided them should always be looked at here. Duncan had Manu, TP and Pop for almost his whole career and you could credit the consistency of that Spurs core as a huge reason why they were always a contender and why their title window was open for as long as it was. But on the flip side, you could even make this argument that the Spurs should have won more the way their core was kept together all those years. Same system, same key guys your whole career makes it less taxing to have to relearn and adjust every season. My personal reason why I can't put Duncan over Kobe in any list.

[@12gark]

Kobe had a lot of different teams, but won always with the same coach, and with 2 main Co-star (and Kobe was second star in Shaq era). He never won without Jackson. So at the end, Duncan won with 2 different teams (the Duncan-Robinson twin Tower, and the Duncan-Parker-Ginobili), same coach and was arguably the best player each and every year. So not, Duncan > Kobe, even if it is close.

[@jzam]

@@12gark I get your point about him winning with the same coach. But I think that just further reinforces my point about the consistency of the Spurs' core helping Duncan's career. That familiarity with Pop, Manu and TP over almost 20 seasons for Tim helped him and his team always be in the hunt. They were always somewhat contenders in the west cos of that core. And to your point, when Kobe finally got Phil back and got back into a system he knew, the familiarity helped him win two more. Kobe had to navigate through lulls, bad teams and bad coaches especially in between title 3 & 4. You could argue that in the years Kobe had Phil (aka the consistency and familiarity that Tim had with his Spurs core his whole career) Kobe won better. Kobe had Phil for 11 years and went to the finals 7 times with a 5-2 record. Tim had Pop his whole career, and got to the finals 6 times with a 5-1 record, Tony and Manu being with them in the last 5 trips.

[@12gark]

@@jzam yes, but I can put a counter argument to that: Kobe's inability to deal with other legends' ego is the reason why he didn't had the consistency of the Spurs. It's easy to say "yeah but he didn't always had Phil and Shaq", but the reality is that he went to the front office asking for a new coach, and basically fought with Shaq until it was a "him or me" situation. People always talk about the good side of "mamba mentality", but mamba mentality literally wore him and everyone around him down. Fair and square, you have to love Kobe with the full package: the iconic game winners, and the airballs. The unstoppable will and the selfishness. That's the real Kobe: a guy who wasn't perfect, but still good enough to be the best player in the history of a team that had half of the NBA top 10 on its roster for at least one championship run.

[@TellyGianoulis]

gtfoh kobe fan boy dude had shaq

[@rooseveltdarbey9493]

Kobe had Shaq for 3 of champions, Tim Duncan was the best player on 4 of his 5 championship teams. Tim Duncan also has one more league MVP over Kobe.

[@b-e-z2fresh702]

Living this serious bro. Keep doing ya thing Nick

[@Themrajester2]

Top 6 but he was never the best player in your eyes??

[@mickfoley9578]

Whoever thinks Kobe was never the best player in the world clearly wasn’t watching basketball. NOBODY WAS SAYING TIM DUNCAN WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD BACK THEN. NOBODY AT ALL.

[@mickfoley9578]

@Tyler Holt let’s go off facts lol idk if you were alive around that time or not.. but Tim Duncan was competing more for the best Pf in the game more than Best player in the world lol everyone knows after Shaq left LA it was Kobe’s league lol no one was talkin Tim Duncan until 2022 😂😂

[@mickfoley9578]

@Tyler Holt this is how I know you’re not really talking basketball and you’re just reading Wikipedia pages and stat sheets . First … you’re bringing up stats that literally weren’t even being tracked during their careers lol 2nd.. you’re using Regular season MVPs and all accolades that the media votes for if we’re gonna use your arguments then we might as well say Steve Nash and Jokic were better regular season players than Shaq and Kobe… like man Rudy Gobert got 3 DPOY… but no one is calling him a better defender than Scottie, Dennis Rodman, Tim Duncan. Why?? Because YOUR EYES will tell you that’s not true. Like cmon man talk about the game! He had more 50 win seasons… like really dude?? So basically ur saying Tim Duncan played for a better ran franchise and didn’t have multiple years in his prime where had Smush Parker as his starting PG. 3rd. You’re last sentence is super false and that’s how I know ur not talking basketball and it’s all emotion and Stats… because if my reason for having Kobe over Tim was based off who’s game looked more appealing.. then i would have Allen Iverson over Tim Duncan and that’s NOT the case. So cmon try again and talk basketball this time.

[@mickfoley9578]

@Tyler Holt the craziest part is that y’all Value Nick Wright’s opinion over NBA PLAYERS THAT PLAYED IN THAT ERA. Lol Richard Jefferson and Stephen Jackson won rings with Tim Duncan and they have stated multiple times Kobe is top 3 ever lol Im not saying Tim Duncan isn’t a goat.. but cmon man for y’all to act like the early to late 2000s wasn’t Kobe’s league is crazy lol I must’ve grew up in an alternate universe or something because I know growing up no one was putting Tim Duncan over Kobe .. he was literally going at it with KG and Dirk for the best PF in the game lol Tim Duncan just had the better supporting cast 😂😂

[@mickfoley9578]

@Tyler Holt he had better teammates ? 😂😂🤦🏽‍♂️ like cmon man talk basketball. Dude literally came into the league with David Robinson as his teammate. Had Tony Parker and Ginobili for the prime. And Kawhi Leonard for the end of it 😂😂🤦🏽‍♂️ That’s 4 HOFs and 2-Top 75 players. Kobe had Shaq and Pau as his only HOF teammates any other HOF he played with was extremely Washed like Steve Nash, GP, and Karl Malone.. so are we really gonna count them? Lol like are we being serious? Or are we just Kobe bashing?

[@Boss3Nate]

My top 5 is Jordan, LeBron, Kareem, Magic, Timmy. No coincidence I think they're also the best players all time at their position. That would be a tough squad to beat. Also got Bird #6 and Kobe #7... so close to this.

[@nonamewillbegiven2412]

You have no top 5 smooth brain and Bird is better than Lebron

[@Boss3Nate]

@@nonamewillbegiven2412 retype that but in English and as a correct sentence. Had a partial seizure trying to read that.

[@nonamewillbegiven2412]

@@Boss3Nate try harder Bron minion

[@Boss3Nate]

@@nonamewillbegiven2412 so which is it? I'm a Bron worshiper or a Bron minion? You're all over the place. Notice Jordan is #1 on my list..... comprehension is key to reading slugger

[@mattwatts33]

Larry Bird top 5 in every category on every list of all time ever.

[@marcusfrm6263]

Shooting, dribbling, defense

[@calicoesblue4703]

No. Micheal Jordan put up 63 points on Larry Bird & the Celtics.... Larry Bird is Overrated🤷

[@rgreen1107]

@@calicoesblue4703 let’s celebrate Jordan’s Points in a loss ! 0 and 6 against legend !

[@riffsthatkill2180]

Weird thing is that there's like 20 players you could put in the top 10. It's very close up near the top, just can't make the math work so someone has to be moved lower. Part of me thinks Kobe is one of the top 10, but then I could think of 10 guys I'd put above him.

[@KazzyOfficial]

#7 kobe #6 bird That's what he'll have when this premiere tomorrow. Or flip those 2

[@scavengertag]

Nice call

[@ilyasaden2900]

Kobe is unequivocally higher than bird

[@lucio989]

@@ilyasaden2900 nah kobe just gets praise because he died. Kobes main move was a fadeaway jumper that wasn't as accurate as Larry. Larry was unequivocally better at passing, defense, rebounds, just as good as scoring, only probably slightly less athletic.

[@BobBobson321]

@@ilyasaden2900 Why unequivocally?

[@kushmaster210]

@@lucio989 big facts

[@MrBezl]

I know this is off topic but how did Big Shot Bob not even get a tribute to the list. Dude has 7 rings and is one of the best clutch shooters of all time

[@danielabraham5901]

He is in the Top 50 ROLE PLAYERS. That is why!!

[@edmondf5777]

Birds apex is as great as anyone's who s ever played . His stats from 1984 to 1988 stack up with anyone . A point you don't mention Nick is and this point is so pertinent I m amazed you didn't bring it up , you rarely miss a pertinent point . BIRD IS THE GREATEST CLOSER THE GAME HAS EVER SEEN . I have Bird and Jordan joint number one and ask yourself, with the game on the line who in the last 50 years would you want with the ball in their hands ? He the greatest assassin the game has ever seen . Furthermore he made everyone around him better . Ask yourself this . If Mc Hale and Parish hadn't been teamed with Bird where would they stand on all time lists ? Jordan unquestionably had a killer mentality but I d argue Bird was an even greater assassin and was UTTERLY self assured when it mattered . I present the argument from playing experience having won 2 " Naismith " awards in my home country, Inc 50/40/90 . Love your show here and of course first things first . I agree with you 99 percent of the time but not with Bird at 7 or Hakeem at 8 . My top five . Bird, Jordan , Hakeem, LeBron, Kareem.

[@tlmarshall21]

LMAO...Love Ya Nick, especially when you're breaking down Cowherd. But it's insane not to have KOBE in the Top 5.

[@rgreen1107]

These rankings are wack ! BIRD is Top 3 , and he more than earned the right to be there alongside MAGIC !

[@XxN0NUk3B005T3RS25xX]

Lmao

[@dariusb7322]

People confuse “better at playing the game of basketball” with “team wins good career “

[@dariusb7322]

Lbj is also a great teammate passer scorer rebounder.

[@Ewalk.213]

The guy's comments about the stability of the spurs franchise under Pop and the fact that Timmy had Hall of fame players around him for his entire career gives Kobe the edge here for me. If you break down Kobe's entire career he had a mediocre team for about half of the time. Those Smush Parker/Chris Mihm teams and then those Julius Randle/ Jordan clarkson teams had no shot at winning anything....and not to mention the poor coaches outside of Phil Jackson. Long story short Kobe competed for a ring every time he had a decent supporting cast except for the year with Nash and Dwight but of course we can blame injury for killing that season

[@paradigmshift7541]

some facts homie

[@op7308]

I understand your point of view and it has some validity. But I would rather have Duncan instead of Kobe because of their personalities. With Tim I know that no matter who I trade or pick, he will try to make it work in every way possible for the success of the team. With Kobe I have to trade or pick players that fit his personality first and then his style of play. Not exactly easy as a task. I tend to consider him a slightly more impactful player than Duncan on the court, because I think the best player on your team has to be most of the time, if not always, the best offensive player on the court and if possible a good defender as well. But if we also consider (as we always should) the impact a player can have off the court for the team, Duncan is my choice.

[@chancep8985]

That guy had some of the weakest arguments Ive ever heard

[@benhernandez7931]

TY from New York need to let that beard go. But great take Nick, on both players!

[@sgcr9223]

That guys arguments at the end for Kobe over Duncan actually made me change my mind and think Duncan is better LOL

[@melekelewis2945]

Kobe is better

[@adriansellers7168]

I think you made the case for him being better than 7 !

[@diegochavez6203]

Lbj had Wade bosh Allen hall of famers and no one brings him down for it lmao

[@coreythomas3633]

All was out of their prime except lebron CMON

[@M5production]

@@coreythomas3633 Lebron, Wade, and Bosh were all drafted in 2003.

[@johnd8368]

1. Jordan 2. LeBron 3. Kareem 4. Magic 5. Tim Duncan

[@MFD00MTR33]

Broussard, "hurp da durp, Kobe is the only guy to win multiple championships without a top 75 player". Tim Duncan, " wait, you can have top 75 players on your team? After the Admiral retired I thought that was it, you're on your own now. Then I won 3 more". The disrespect Duncan gets is ridiculous. If not for the greatest shot in Finals history(and a dumb decision by Pop to take their best rebounder out) Duncan could've been 6-0 in the finals. I'm glad Nick gave him his props and destroyed that fanboy video at the end. Oh God, how can anyone play with Shaq and expect to win. Get outta here.

[@xcwilliams7980]

Calling Ginobli and Parker, 2 players that won finals MVPs "on your own". Yeah ok buddy.

[@MFD00MTR33]

@@xcwilliams7980 it's sarcasm. According to Chris if you're not a top 75 player you don't matter in championship wins. Kobe had a great team when he won with Pao, Metta and Bynum and so did Timmy with Manu, Parker and a young Kawhi at the end. But these "analysts" try to make it seem that having another great on your team somehow diminishes your achievement.

[@Abbad1579]

@@xcwilliams7980 Manu never won a fmvp

[@arvindsriram8371]

Parker and Manu wouldn’t be hall of famers without Duncan. So stop saying he played with HOFers throughout.

[@logann29]

kobe averaged 29.4 while playing lockdown d in 5 playoff series against the duncan and the spurs with a 4-1 record in those series. and duncan also had some sub par playoff moments. kobe was also the best player from 06-10

[@blackphillip564]

Duncan's 2003 run was one of the greatest in NBA history. Duncan has an NBA record 15x AllDef. Back to back MVPs. Kobe is one of the only superstars to not win a ring during his MVP season. Kobe could have easily lost to CP3 in the MVP race in '08. Lebron was a back to back MVP in 2009/10 no way Kobe was better than him.

[@spenserphoenix]

1 MVP he's lucky to be top 10

[@Noin007]

Duncan also didn't have the mid-career milti-season dud right in the middle of his prime like Kobe did. Kobe's peak is a little higher than Duncan's, but Duncan doesn't have Kobe's lows.

[@Luke24160]

As a Kobe fan this list has made me respect Nick a lot more than I already did

[@mookz34]

I am not a Bird fan, but having Kobe ahead of him is crazy talk.

[@Luke24160]

@@mookz34 if I’m being honest If I gave my list I’d have bird one spot above Kobe as well but I enjoy seeing him get love regardless

[@CannedHam2479]

Im not a Kobe fam, but Kobe is definitely top 5 all time. This list is disrespectful to Kobe Kobe>>>>>Duncan

[@goldysnkrs7424]

@@mookz34 Kobe had more all nba teams than bird had seasons cmon man

[@Landofhim]

@@CannedHam2479 how though? Duncan was more efficient, same amount of chips, more MVPs, finals MVPs, more all defensive teams and never missed the playoffs. How?

[@bunnybunny0072]

Would like to point out that Duncan won in 05 and 07 without top 75 players on his team. I don’t know why Chris says only Kobe did it.

[@AlwaysEwok]

Both those guys had the best and second best coach ever aswel. It may be a stars league but coaching especially at the top level is a huge addition to a contending roster

[@bunnybunny0072]

It’s interesting though bc yes they both had phenomenal coaching, but by the time Kobe had Phil, Phil was at the top of his game. Duncan had to allow Pop to grow into the coach he became. In 1999, when the Spurs won, nobody had Pop as a top coach in the league. It wasn’t really until 2005 that Pop really started to get his flowers coaching wise. But this really just goes to show how great Jordan is tbh bc he 3peated during Phil’s growing time. He made it appear that Phil didn’t even have a moment of growth.

[@blackphillip564]

@@AlwaysEwok Duncan made Pop. Jackson was already a legend way before LA.

[@emilioreyes4159]

37:56 what an insufferable condescending clown, really wanted to make an objective point about Kobe ahead of Tim Duncan but disrespected TD's carreer

[@WorldBeater123]

Kobe over Bird?! Not a chance. Kobe and Shaq are two top 10 players and they lost to the Detroit Pistons who I don’t believe has a top 75 player. The only thing that stopped Bird from stacking titles was running into Magic/Kareem, who are two top 5 players on same team!!!! Those Lakers are legendary and Bird still managed to grab titles and 3 MVP’s during the Lakers run.

[@brotherblack8961]

Tell ‘em again dude!!!

[@terryf3282]

Very good point i have Kobe around 10th to 11th all time it was getting silly when the GOAT debate started to consist of just 3 players Jordan, Lebron and Kobe????????

[@williamcarr5090]

Notice Nick left off 15 time All NBA(11 First team tied for second all time , and 12 All NBA Defensive teams(9 1st teams tied for most all time) for Kobe

[@mikewardii2457]

So the season he didn’t make the playoffs his missed 16 games due to injury which you give a pass too for Lebron in 2018 just wondering why. As well he has beating Duncan in playoffs more.

[@nickhurt6600]

Lebron made the finals in 2018?

[@mikewardii2457]

My apologies I meant the 2019 season first season with the lakers they missed the playoffs Lebron missed 18 games before shutting it down after they where out of contention. The year Kobe missed playoffs he missed 16 games. As well Kareem missed the playoffs in his prime as well. I think that along with Kobe beating Duncan more in the playoffs and going to the championship 3 years in a row twice to Duncan only able to make it back to back once and split those times is the separation.

[@mindyourbuisness8104]

You are comparing LeBrons end of career to peak kobe. LeBron was carrying absolutely awful rosters as well just doing it better

[@mikewardii2457]

@@mindyourbuisness8104 the team Kobe had that missed the playoffs roster was worse then the 2019 lakers. 2019 at least had Brandon Ingram. still the main point is he missed 16 games.

[@mikewardii2457]

@@nickhurt6600 I meant 2019 my apologies

[@joep84]

Duncan over Kobe all day. And completely justified as a top 5 guy.

[@Landofhim]

💯 all day

[@250lifestyle9]

Kobe 4-2 verse Duncan in playoff series

[@Abbad1579]

@@250lifestyle9 Kobe's teams were always better outside of 1999

[@250lifestyle9]

@@Abbad1579 false

[@Abbad1579]

@@250lifestyle9 How?

[@ModernFiction]

Nick been hating on Kobe his entire professional media career smh

[@Abbad1579]

How is he hating on Kobe?

[@Dapperdan972]

Look at the videos when Kobe was alive you’ll see

[@dansayles]

Do you realize that Bird was averaging 29 ppg in the 86 playoffs. Then ran into Hakeem and that dropped to 24

[@jasonmoukala8909]

What a drop off

[@arturasmarma525]

You never mentioned that Kobe was tied @1st place with Timmy as the most all defensive teams.

[@Noahdudenumbernine]

no he’s not. duncan is 15x, kobe is 12x

[@arturasmarma525]

@@Noahdudenumbernine Sorry he is tied 2nd with KG.

[@ericdupree8603]

@@arturasmarma525 Kobe started getting off recognition after 2009. His defensive ratings were worse than Lebrons during his 2nd tenure with the Cavaliers in the regular season. In the playoffs both were All Defensive Caliber.