I have X5 and it was so unstable, so I have done a diy string alignment on it. I went very brave and put 2mm toe out. Now it has become stable and very predictable. Thank you for your informative tutorial. Somehow my local garage had put 1mm toe in on a 4x4! Thank you
@YSKhongDriving6 ай бұрын
Thank you. Note that you should toe in the rear and toe out the front ya? Enjoy your car!
@ThePen0776 ай бұрын
@@YSKhongDriving yes I did 2mm front toe out and roughly 0.8mm toe in at rear, now very stable. Thanks a lot
@haridaspillay4 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always! Very informative and delivered in a simple, easy to understand manner for the layman. Thank-you Sir!
@soongalfred25153 жыл бұрын
I just love the way Uncle Khong simplifies the mechanics. Learning a lot!
@tony18604 жыл бұрын
Hi Uncle YS, you are a Jack of all trades! You always look out for your audiences from different levels! Really appreciate all those thoughts and preparations behind the scene! As mentioned from my previous comment of your previous vlog, I started from ground zero from watching your part 1 alignment tutorial and I now have the basic ideas of what to look for from my local workshop. Your Genting run vlog of the Peugeot with Jennifer is kind of ranked head to head with this......😁
@jjlow27594 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the explanation, Uncle.. i always wanted to know about toe especially when im playing gran turismo sport where i can adjust all kinds of settings. Much more to learn! Looking forward to more of your informative videos. Kudos
@4G124 жыл бұрын
Excellent, layman friendly lessons. It's great that you share your real world experience and mention the importance of compensating for real world dynamic situations. Cars aren't completely rigid bodies, their suspension systems have a finite amount of built in elasticity from components such as rubber bushings and even the steering tie rod as well as control arms and rods, though made of metal alloys, DO have a small but perceptible amount of flex, especially for those of us who know how to safely push our cars to their limits. Long story short, acceleration provided by the driven wheel toes the wheel in while braking causes toe in. Non-driven wheels toe out when dragged along at steady speed or under acceleration and deceleration unless you're running the car in reverse.
@Carfluenza3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Uncle for creating the video! Easy to understand yet detailed information. All this while, I just send my car to the workshop for this but don't really know what they are doing. All the curiosity started to build up after the autocross session that I joined. I found all these things are really interesting to learn. Looking forward to more videos like this!
@YSKhongDriving3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@tiamofj8424 жыл бұрын
Again...clean and clear ultra CONCISE explanations. Kudos Chief. And yeah..me old enuff ti remember Kan Chee Hong, Karamjit and even Yoong Yin Fah( Hanifah Yoong) and Albert Poon and helll yeah....I'm an Old Git!!!😁😁😁
@nghonleong4 жыл бұрын
Thanks and I certainly learnt something new from this video! I am not a young driver but yet, I now can find a good way to explain the need to toe in or out!
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
Glad we could be of help. The idea is to spread knowledge for everybody.
@kentteoh12604 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Uncle KHONG for clarifying everything in details. REALLY REALLY learn a lot from you
@riz84503 жыл бұрын
Trying to do the realignment on my front drive Dodge caravan, some people saying to toe in while others saying toe out, now I understand. thanks a lot
@harvard_lee4 жыл бұрын
Uncle, thanks for the toe in and out tip. Now, I understand the logic behind it.
@shahrulnizam47134 жыл бұрын
Thank you uncle, I just realized my old fwd car's rear toe are toe in in the left and toe out in the right, hence why it got weird feeling when into cornering and under braking
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
Actually the steering will centralise and your steering wheel cants to one side.
@sathiyaveloce14 жыл бұрын
Good video Sifu. We spoke about this during the smart44 training back in 2004. 😁
@richardyong10534 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Uncle Khong. Very useful information.
@johnsonlimsheng4 жыл бұрын
This is a very educational video.
@seshachary5580 Жыл бұрын
very educative. Thank you regards
@rcaddict19363 жыл бұрын
that's an original Tamiya Hotshot released in 1985. Tamiya's first ever 4wd buggy.
@braderyoutube19832 жыл бұрын
ty uncle. now i understand
@paultakela33333 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation
@dhillonsavee3 жыл бұрын
You are Bruce Lee of Alignment...
@crunchtimeeats3473 жыл бұрын
Some of us autocrossing the miatas would toe out the fronts for better turn in. Not sure about the dynamics but it sure did work. A compensation for improved Ackerman or limited caster maybe?
@YSKhongDriving3 жыл бұрын
Usually toe in helps the turn in.
@crunchtimeeats3473 жыл бұрын
@@YSKhongDriving that’s what I have always believed in too, and yes, also adjusted my RC cars growing up! But driving is believing. Looks like it’s an autocross thing, and may not be suitable for steady state corners like track use. forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=502691
@YSKhongDriving3 жыл бұрын
Possibly. I set my cars with rear toed out for tight circuits.
@GTN34 жыл бұрын
Hey Khong, great subject as I have been doing my alignment this week. I have Prius and because they toe in the rear , I wasn't sure of my measurements. I got to a machine that showed I was .23 deg. Out. Using calculator, I need to move 1.5mm BUT, One big question: Do I really only move half(.75) because the pivot will cause the other half, or is this already accounted for? Thank you for any info!!
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
You don't calculate. You look at the screen and to hen you adjust. Only the front will centralise. You have to set the steering straight first, then lock and adjust the wheels individually. Make sure thrust angle is zero.
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
All readings should be based on setting the steering wheel dead centre, and each wheel is adjusted based on this. While it is true the front will self centralise, you still need to adjust each wheel individually and not go for total toe or else the steering will go to one side when the car moves. Same goes for the rear.
@fizsleeperz4 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! this is very informative
@johnlee25404 жыл бұрын
MCO can have enough time to wash car cushion , carpet and sun dry it .
@lotuswithraymondcartalk4814 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you sir.
@akoswifter3 жыл бұрын
thax uncle make me some idea to diy alingmeny my kelisa..thax so much..
@ariesr48834 жыл бұрын
2006 Rsx type S FWD: front toe out 2mm total... front camber -1degree both.... rear toe in 2mm total.... rear camber -0.5 degree both. Vehicle with 2.75 inch drop. Alignment specs look good? Or any suggestions? Thank you
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
Looks good. I bet the t drives very nicely.
@ariesr48834 жыл бұрын
YS Khong Driving thanks for the reply!!! Btw were you in a couple of movies before?
@gbob19803 жыл бұрын
Great video sir, how about AWD car like an EVO, what setting should be suitable?
@YSKhongDriving2 жыл бұрын
Depends on driving style.
@johnlee25404 жыл бұрын
Love this much 💌
@kien50254 жыл бұрын
uncle, maybe you can do a video on open vs closed differential next
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
You can find stuff like this on the internet. Could be too technical. Even our alignment videos are a bit boring for many.
@01698051274 жыл бұрын
Good Info content !! And i would like to ask what is the best wheel settings for the front wheel drive cars, to have feel more stable when turning corner ?
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
Toe out the front and toe in the rear.
@01698051274 жыл бұрын
@@YSKhongDriving thank you uncle Khong, Goodnight 😉😉
@fezzypc76954 жыл бұрын
Thank you uncle
@paulvandams16343 жыл бұрын
What about the instability of the car when u set it at toe-out for frontwheel drive. Yes it will be compensated when u apply the power but what about driving 200km\h en release the throttle. The car will be very sensitive for tracks in the road that form by heavy trucks etc.
@YSKhongDriving3 жыл бұрын
Why dont you try it first? No point theorising when I have already done it. My Golf R is set to toe out in front.
@paulvandams16343 жыл бұрын
@@YSKhongDriving it's actually a question...I'm curious for the theory behind that? because i am designing a suspension and writing a report about what different setups do to the behaviour of the car. And nothing better than some explanation from a pro!
@andytew4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Khong, nice video, learnt a lot from you, I have a question, what about AWD car such as Kia sportage, do I toe in or out for front and rear wheel?
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
Follow the same format as FWD cars.
@andytew4 жыл бұрын
@@YSKhongDriving thank you so much Mr. Khong
@chardjapanvlog29403 жыл бұрын
Good video sir
@focalpolyglass73374 жыл бұрын
Tq so much, great explanation uncle ! I have driven a stock Mini R56 how to have an agressive steer like that car in my Swift? Anything to do with the camber?
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
All the various factors combine to make the handling what it is. Your Suzy has a Torsion Beam, I suppose?
@focalpolyglass73374 жыл бұрын
YS Khong Driving ya uncle, torsion beam. Mini is independent rear if I'm not mistaken. But i suppose it's mainly because of steering rack ratio. Anw after upgrading parts I'm really satisfied with swift handling on touge. Greetings from Indonesia uncle Khong!
@shiencher64204 жыл бұрын
Hi uncle YS, may i know what's the good alignment setup for stock Evo 7 in SIC. I got few suggestion from friends and i still wondering which to go. Running 245/40/17 on 17x9jj et20. 1. Front camber -3 , toe out -1.5 or -2 total. Rear camber -2 toe out -0.5 or -1 total. 2. Front camber -3 , toe out -0.5 or -1 total. Rear camber -2 toe in 0 or + 0.5 total. 3. Front camber -3, toe in 0.5 or 1 total. Rear camber -2 toe out -0.5 total. Hope you can advice , Thanks!
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
No.2 would be a good set up. No 1 and 3 are set ups for very short circuits, low speed, like autocross. For high speed course like SIC, it is better to toe the rear wheels in for more stability.
@shiencher64204 жыл бұрын
@@YSKhongDriving thx u uncle YS.
@ahmadfirdaus29903 жыл бұрын
Can you give recommendation toe out for myvi and old honda city idsi .. for normal driving... Should go with -0.6mm both side or what?
@YSKhongDriving3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is a good number to start with.
@eric69554 жыл бұрын
Hi Uncle Khong, what alignment equipment brand is good ? Is Hunter alignment machine good ?
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
Hunter is one of the good brands.
@truckman71234 жыл бұрын
Hi Uncle, the car manual wrote:"The rear independent multi-link suspension is OE adjustable for Toe only. " So can d normal tyreshop perform rear wheel alignment?tq
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
Yes, in this case it is for toe only. Defining "Normal" would be the challenge. A car can be driven, but can the normal person drive? Depends on the skill level, right?
@truckman71234 жыл бұрын
@@YSKhongDriving cars r designed to be driven by normal person. But d alignment m/c has to be performed by a trained person. I have seen PPL not knowing how to use ruler correctly. We have vast number of tyre shops. But only a handful of Alignment trained person fr my experience of alignment visits.
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on. Any machine is only as good as the user.
@ndck764 жыл бұрын
Good info. However When I walk, I notice I'm toe out. So I guess I'll walk straight. 😂
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
If you toe out, you are likely to waddle like a duck. Do a bigger toe out angle, and look at yourself in the mirror, hahaha.
@cuatroscandiacus4 жыл бұрын
Hi YS, is trail braking/left foot braking essential during a turn?
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
Trail braking and left foot braking are two different techniques. Not essential if you are going at normal speeds
@jandolezal10624 жыл бұрын
Hello, great video! Could you take a 2gen Perodua Myvi to Genting? Thank you!
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
Anybody have one?
@adrian66554 жыл бұрын
@@YSKhongDriving I have one sir, but its not in stock condition. Rubbing on sports springs.
@MrSeichong923 жыл бұрын
for civic fc 1.5t is suggested front Toe out not more then 1.5 rear also toe in not over 1.5?
@YSKhongDriving3 жыл бұрын
Not more than 1 mm
@stevenwiranto67013 жыл бұрын
Uncle, What about awd car like subaru sti? What toe setting (front and rear) would you recommend? Thank you
@YSKhongDriving3 жыл бұрын
For normal driving, I would set front toe out 0.8mm each side and rear toe in 0.8mm. For aggressive driving you would need about 1.0mm.
@stevenwiranto67013 жыл бұрын
@@YSKhongDriving thank you so much for the reply uncle..... really appreciate it 🙏
@stevenwiranto67013 жыл бұрын
@@YSKhongDriving Uncle.... does the toe setting effect the steering respons?
@DC-nk9jx2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but what is the airspeed of an unladen swallow ?
@YSKhongDriving2 жыл бұрын
No idea what you are talking about
@ngcheecheang46294 жыл бұрын
Uncle please recommend some tyre shop with good knowledge....thanks
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
Usually I tell them what I want. Then they follow my instructions.
@ngcheecheang46294 жыл бұрын
@@YSKhongDriving can give example like what kind of instruction u gave?
@ngcheecheang46294 жыл бұрын
for front wheel drive car*
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
I tell them exactly what I want, then they do it for me. For front wheel drive car - I said in my video.
@khdhr4 жыл бұрын
Thank for your explanation uncle. It has helped me understand better on allignment! Btw may I ask, my car have this issue where the steering always want to steer left, even after doing balancing and allignment. I have changed the lower arm bush yet it still steers to the left. Also I have this vibration issue when reaching 140 kmh or higher, and it is not only on acceleration. After doing on wheel balancing, it improved a little bit but after few weeks will go back to "normal". What could be the issue here from your experience?
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me what car you have, and also send me a set of your alignment readings. Pulling to the left is likely a caster condition, or right hand camber is excessive. Vibration could be tyres and could also be gearbox mounting. Bent rims can also be a possible cause and lastly, flat spots on your tyres.
@khdhr4 жыл бұрын
thanks for your reply uncle! im driving a mk6 gti. i dont know the exact reading, i always assumed the shops know better hahah what is the correct reading i should be looking at for my car? maybe its the gearbox mounting causing the vibration due to age of the car. if wheels are bent, it can be detected while doing balancing right? really appreciate you taking your time replying my questions..
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
Look at the rims, could be bent, or flat spots on the tyres.
@YSKhongDriving4 жыл бұрын
t.me/joinchat/Pdt8mRMb4FhH7evXd6U4UA Come join the Telegram group. Can talk better there. Many Golf GTi owners there too