Is This the BEST Saddle for Cycling? ( Infinity Seat )

[@eugenebernosky1888]

Great video and review Eric. After 50,000 miles on these Infinity Seats, I think 'conventional' saddles are the weird aesthetic. I use them for road, gravel and MTB. My rides go up to 12 hours. Like rim brakes and carbon wheels, (what we did to try and make carbon wheels work vs simply going to a brake rotor and eliminating contact with the rim), bike saddles for over 100 years have been based on a bad design and optimized as best as possible by softening the concentrated pressure on the ischium, or, sit bone. Infinity Seats changed that by eliminating all pressure on the ischium, perineum region and for the most part, the pudendal nerve which combined, make up the reasons conventional seats are often associated with not just ischium pain, but numbness in the entire area. Also note that Infinity now offers the the X Series seats made with weather proof marine vinyl - best for muddle, wet severe conditions where you don't want to worry about taking care of the leather. As for price, well in the middle of the premium seat market. Considering many cycling enthusiast spend thousands or even $10,000+ for their bike, often adding carbon wheels for thousands more, buying an artesian Infinity Seat that turns discomfort into a comfy experience is the greatest bargain in bikes. As I say often, "After a 12 hour race, the only thing that doesn't hurt is my ass". - Grey Haired Cycling Dude. PS: I wear bibs with a 2mm chamois.................no more diaper pads in my bibs!

[@WheelstoWander]

Great to hear that Eugene! The way you describe the Infinity Seat as the greatest bargain in bikes is a really interesting point to make for big spenders. It would nice if people could try these more readily, as for a smaller budget these run pricey. The serie X sounds like my next upgrade :) Thanks & Best wishes!

[@pauljames9626]

I used a Brooks B17 for a number of years and used to think these were the best saddles in the world, but not using padded cycling shorts, the pressure soon built up in the Perineal area and made long rides seriously uncomfortable. I have recently been introduced (last six months or so) to the Selle SMP TRK, which has a central cut out area albeit smaller than the Infinity and I must say it's a delight to ride on - quite possibly one of the most comfortable saddles I've ever ridden. I think the cost of the infinity is a definite turn off, especially since it doesn't appear to be all that durable, but getting the saddle right is probably the single most important step to ensuring comfort on the road and buying whatever suits, regardless of the cost, is the right way to go here. Thanks for another insightful gear review.

[@WheelstoWander]

Hi Paul! I also have high regards for the B17 but they fall short in a few key areas. I have seen the Selle SMP and they look very capable. The Infinity Seats are expensive and I expect the A1X adventure to be a lot more durable. The E2 isn't really designed for months on end being out in the elements. I agree that getting the saddle right is the singel most important step to cycling comfort. All the best!

[@andreasruther8750]

There are also Brooks saddles with cutout, look out for the "Carved" version. I'll be testing the b17 carved narrow in April for a 1.000km ultra race. I'm very curios how it works out.

[@WheelstoWander]

I have seen them and I would be curious to know how you get on with it.? Best wishes!

[@andreasruther8750]

@@WheelstoWander I'll let you know once I made some longer rides with it!

[@snarkywisecrack]

​@@WheelstoWanderThanks for this video. What I want to know is if you are in the elements so much, how much crap flies up through the Infinity saddle?

[@chrislonsberry1974]

Interesting video! I have 3 bikes and all 3 have a Brooks B17 on them. After 45 years of cycling I have found these to be the most comfortable for me. That said, I totally understand what you’re saying about sliding into the pocket of the Brooks saddle. The One Infinity is expensive but I may look into it. If the saddle truly makes you more comfortable on the bike, the money is worth it! Thanks for the review!

[@williamwightman8409]

I use an original solid plastic Infinity seat and have added a seat cover. This is by far the best road bike seat I have ever had. I have never had any abrasion or hot spots in rides up to 100 miles. Highly recommend.

[@weedhopp]

Great information I ride a Brooke's with suspension but have developed issues the older I get 😊❤

[@weedhopp]

Thanks so much 😊✌️❤️

[@WheelstoWander]

Thanks Jerri! That sounds unpleasant Perhaps the combo with the Thudbuster can be interesting? Best wishes!

[@weedhopp]

@@WheelstoWander I am to short for a thudbuster lol

[@BluecollarBackcountry]

Thank you, Eric. I've been hoping for this video to see your long term thoughts. I think this will be my next saddle, Thank you ✌

[@steveretiredandcycling]

Hey Tony. Eric got it right

[@BluecollarBackcountry]

I knew you really liked yours and I asked Eric a while back for a long term review. To late for Christmas but I see one in my future. Thanks Steve

[@WheelstoWander]

Hi Tony! I hope you will enjoy yours as much as I do mine! Merry Christmas ☃️ and All the best!

[@Luca_erre]

i can Say something about It because i had One infinity saddle. First of all It's really expensive, i Remember i spent 300 euros, thinking that i m in Europe and the shipping costs from US are super High. But in my experience It was not a gamechanger, this because It's true that you can preserve your Seat Bones from the pain but... All the soft tissues around the seatbones suffer so much... This Is why i gave It away After some rides, for me It was not good as i expected.

[@desert.mantis]

I plan to check out more about the Infinity.

[@WheelstoWander]

Cool! All the best 😊

[@robertgraves3215]

Very interesting. I just bought three Selle Italias that were dirt cheap for my "town bikes " (70's vintage steel roadies with perfectly OK but beat up factory saddles ) and they are pretty awesome. For the mule tourer, I splurged 40.00+ on a Selle Italia Touring women's/Unisex saddle with a wide- butt profile . (A lot of gear now is listed as "Unisex". have you noticed that?) It's a "Float" model I think. Generally, I don't have a lot of saddle discomfort , I can adapt pretty well to almost anything (within reason) , and I discovered that padded shorts really aren't mandatory, but I do use them for long touring if they don't chafe. I love the old Avocet saddles , but figured I'd splurge on the Selle Float because I'm officially old now. We'll see what happens. When I first saw that thumbnail I thought yes, durability , and that saddle's not gonna be cheap. Weldwood Contact Cement and a binder clamp or V clamp will cure that rear section , you don't need staples. I wonder what they'd charge to repair it . Hell, If I was that CEO, I'd do it for free for you just for the good press. Yeah I do hate it when you feel like you have to keep sliding back on the saddle to be "in position". Even when you have it all the way back on the rails. That's an immediate swap out. The Avocets never do that to me. B-17's are off my radar now, too heavy, and too much obsession. And they get stolen. Folks, let's all remember that no saddle is going to forever endure the torture that Eric and Maudi can dish out year after year . I mean, Morroco for Gods' sakes lol. Great analysis . Oh and now is the time to buy bike stuff as the market is now flooded with post-Covid surplus . Onward.

[@WheelstoWander]

Hi Robert! Some wonderful insights. Good to hear I am not the only one sliding down on the B17's. I thought it was maybe because I am a bit weird or something 😉 Thanks for the contact cement tip, I will look into that! Best wishes & Tailwinds!!

[@daviddavis494]

Very good review on the seat

[@WheelstoWander]

Thanks David 😊 All the Best!

[@MarcMallary]

I've had trouble with the rails braking on both my B17 and a Selle Anatomica. So I advise getting the strongest rather than lightest frame. I weighed about 190 pounds at the time...

[@WheelstoWander]

I like some resiliency too 👍🏼

[@PumpkinVillage]

Very good review. Looks interesting but like you I would have to save up for this. Take care, Al

[@WheelstoWander]

Thank you Al! Yes, they are expensive and if I wasn't lucky with a secondhand find I might have never tried it. Merry Christmas 🎄

[@dpierre]

Salut Eric! For me, these are the 3 points of contact. So, I looked for very comfortable saddles that were not slippery with my jeans because I often ride and even go downhill without holding the handlebars. Fortunately, there are plenty of choices with the slot in the middle. For the pedals, I finally opted for the 4 bikes for the Shimano XT wide version and without the flu bolts but I added the famous Velcro strap in the slot which prevents the foot from sliding forward. And last point, the handles in real molded wood (this is not the kind of bike you leave parked in the street ;). Wood is an indescribable feeling of warmth and comfort.

[@WheelstoWander]

Thanks Didier! It sounds like you have really dialed in your bikes comfort 👌🏼 I am interested to know what brand the wooden handles are? That sounds awesome! Best wishes!!

[@theskids6]

Saddles are a very personal thing. This looks interesting, but I'm a happy long time Brooks user, the sprung version of the B17 (also without padded shorts). Great that you picked this up so cheap - that full price is crazy! I'm a big fan of buying second hand, and all my Brooks saddles have been used. People buy them, find the break-in period too painful, and give up on them. Another thing I like about Brooks saddles is that they last forever and if the rails break (like mine have) it's not too difficult or expensive to replace them. Only down side is remembering to put a saddle cover on when it's left out in the rain! Looking forward to your next set of cycling adventure videos - hope we don't have to wait too long 👍

[@joelberman5981]

Yes. It’s the only seat I can use day after day after day. I’ve been using it for many years.

[@WheelstoWander]

🙌🏼 Nice

[@Beingkindfeelsgood]

Thank you for introducing Me to Infiniti Bike seats. Dr. Vince and Diane are beautiful souls. They really care about people. Thank you for creating this video.❤

[@WheelstoWander]

Thanks & All the Best 😊

[@awildavazquez1601]

This was great information!! Thanks for sharing! ❤

[@WheelstoWander]

Happy to hear that 😊 All the best!!

[@brokensimulations]

Yes they work. Been riding on infinity’s gravel saddle. Killer after broken in.

[@r0ll1ng3r]

Selle, two SQLab, Brooks. Measured sit bones. Nothing helps. After 60 km the problems with the sit bones start. Maybe I'll try this saddle. Serious question: are you selling your old Infinity saddle so I can test it?

[@WheelstoWander]

If I had a new one I might... I hope you find what you are looking for 🍀

[@steveretiredandcycling]

Hey Eric, I only use Infinity bike seats. Best most comfortable seat made!

[@WheelstoWander]

For me too 👍🏼 Great to hear you enjoy yours!! All the best

[@andreasruther8750]

Thanks for the video! I'm very interested in alternative saddle concepts. I also don't wear a padded shorts because it only gives me comfort for a short while. Also when it's hot, the sweat does not help on long rides. I do ultracycling (like 1000km in 3 days) and bought a brooks b17 narrow which I hope will fit better than the others I used before. But it's really a niche so I appreciate you bringing this up a lot! Although the prize is a big matter...

[@WheelstoWander]

I feel the same way about padded shorts. I hope the info hear might help you in some way to find better comfort on your ultra rides. Thank you & All the best!

[@mikascamp]

I think your reviews along with your partners are extremely valuable given your extensive bike touring trip, however I think saddles are still subjective ie no saddle available will suit everyone the fact that you found it second hand confirms, I would like to try one but that price is extortionate for what you get the price just doesn't justify. I also ride without any padded shorts and have no problems with the b17 (which I love) and do think the price of the b17 justifies what you get, but im not so comfortable with the fact that its leather and can change shape over time I found it perfect out of the box so I keep it covered with a thin rain cover and ive only used proofide when it looks dull (2 times in the 4 years ive had it) luckily its kept its shape. thanks for the review✌️

[@WheelstoWander]

Thanks for the nice words! The price is steep and now that I have tried it I can say it works very well for me. I might not have tried it if I wasn't able to find it secondhand. Happy to hear you are enjoying your B17 👍🏼 Happy holidays!

[@mikascamp]

@@WheelstoWander Merry Christmas and happy new year😉👍

[@gsnyder2007]

Great review Eric. I use a Brooks Cambium Carved C19 which has worked well for me on my tours but I’m still searching for something even better. I get the point about the cost but like a number of the other viewers, I’m like, well I spend a few thousand on the bike and shouldn’t I invest proportionately in the saddle? And, I often joke with my car driving friends, that a really expensive bike setup is still cheap when compared to a car! And with the added benefit at 62 that I maintain my health through being a cycle-first person - yeah, I still drive a car from time to time, but I don’t like it and it’s only cause I’m in America which can be very unfriendly to cyclists. 🚴 Ride on people! ✌️

[@WheelstoWander]

I heard the Brooks is nice but your still putting pressure on your sit-bones. Yes , these saddles are expensive but if they fit well chances are high they are next level comfortable. Perhaps there is a dealer, a second hand option or a local who has one to try... Great to hear your a cycle first person! Nice to stay fit 💪🏼 Tailwinds!!

[@davejack3054]

Picking a saddle that's right for you is a tough task. Unless you are a bike fitter or physiotherapist with access to pressure mapping tools like that seen at 1:36min you may find that you spend money on saddles only to have to make due with what you got or admit defeat and try again. . If you want to ensure that the saddle is right for you go and see a bike fitter who has the tools to ensure that you get what fits you, it will be cheaper in the long run.

[@cheezy-rider]

I'm about a 240 lb. guy and have been having a hard time finding a saddle that doesn't hurt my perineum and sit bones. I've looked into these saddles and they seem to make a lot of sense. The new hammock design especially to distribute pressure even more. The price has always been an issue so the used market was a good idea to start. I was concerned to see the damage to the saddle considering the price but wonder if a lack of care by the previous owner might have had something to do with it? I would probably go with a synthetic material as well because the leather really gives no advantage that I can think of given the design. I would think given the price and how different this saddle is the manufacturer would have display units set up for people to sit on and see for themselves if they want to break into the market. Since I'm in the US I'm going to check on the website and see if this is an option anywhere hear. You don't see many people trying these but every one I have has always been a good review so I'm glad to see an opinion from someone with your experience and reputation. Thanks for the info and I look forward to more great videos. P.S. Any plans of riding in the U.S.?

[@WheelstoWander]

They saddle looked great when I got it. Occasionally the bike falls over because I didn't secure the kickstand enough in the touch and go nature of things (filming a lot!). Also I had the wrong leather balm that left stains on my pants so I didn't use it nearly as much as needed. The saddle has also been outside 24/7 for months in rain, snow, sun, etc. It's not designed for that use. I would probably go for the A1X version now. No direct plans but we would love to ride the U.S. some day! Thanks & All the best!

[@krølle-1]

@@WheelstoWander put a plastic bag over it at all times. even when you use it.

[@kevindean9613]

i came really close to buying one of these but the fact it's leather put me off with the rain we have in the UK .

[@WheelstoWander]

They have versions that should be more durable in the rain.

[@kevindean9613]

Could you do a review on you bamboo handlebars & do you have your handlebars higher / lower or level with your saddle .Thanks for all the effort you put into your videos .

[@viveviveka2651]

Interesting saddle. Thank you 🌻

[@WheelstoWander]

Thanks Vive 😊 All the Best!

[@bengt_axle]

They now make Infinity saddles with a fabric in the empty space. Would you choose that as your replacement? Are there any downsides to having a cutout in the center? Don't you feel the edge of the saddle rubbing against your inner thigh? Thanks for this very helpful and interesting review.

[@WheelstoWander]

I am curious to try that version! A possible downside could be perhaps spray from your tyres... I have no problem with rubbing against my thigh. All the best!

[@evanlouis8853]

Thanks again for a wonderfully informative video. I'm a big fan. Question....My issue with bike seats is not with my sits bones...it is with chafing on the upper, inner thigh in the crotch area...just one side...can you speak to that kind of irritation in regards to the Infinity saddle? Thank you.

[@WheelstoWander]

Thank you Evan! I had no problem with chafing. The seat has quite a thin profile so not a lot there to catch the thighs. I have really slim legs though... All the best!

[@IS-xk3iq]

Explained very well

[@WheelstoWander]

Thanks 😊

[@evanlouis8853]

Can you tell me please… Do you have to have your sits bones measured to send to the Infiniti company, or are the saddles a standard size?

[@krølle-1]

think you can find answers the home page.

[@WheelstoWander]

The come in one size!

[@rene5348]

Thanks for sharing, I’ll get one of those! What the brand of your pedals?

[@WheelstoWander]

You're welcome! The pedals are from the brand PedalSquad.

[@tucksiver8763]

I've used one of these for a year now. It's easily the least painful saddle I've ever experienced.

[@WheelstoWander]

That is a good way of describing it! All saddles , no matter how good, will eventually start to bring some discomfort.

[@WheelstoWander]

That's is kind of a good way of putting it!

[@tommieronen7424]

Have you tried noseless saddles? =) I have ridden those for more than 10 years and even if I got paid I would not use normal saddles. XD We are using spongy wonder saddle but there are others too.

I wanted to buy such a saddle, but unfortunately it is not available anywhere in Europe.

[@WheelstoWander]

Yeah, it's hard to get a hold of!

[@TIMMCNALLY-q2y]

I am struggling to find a comfortable saddle and I would love to try the Infinity Seat but they have a NO RETURN policy. I'm not willing to fork over $400+ to try a saddle. Too bad, they're losing a potential sale.

[@Ekwuss]

I love the consept! My sit bones have always been an issue. Great review on the Infinity saddle. ❤

[@nickweigel461]

It doesn't work as well as you may think. Sitting on the hamstring tendon will increase tensile force on the sitbone still, this won't be captured by a pressure map. Additionally you can't move around on this saddle well which further tends to increase discomfort due to sustained pressure. I'm not saying this saddle can't work better for some than traditional saddles but it's certainly not magic for everyone.

[@Bernhard20Zoll]

The fundamental problem with every bicycle saddle is the small seat area and therefore the high pressure. I think the crucial question is what the body cannot do. If this goes below a certain value, the only thing left to do is stop or leigerad. see my post Bernard

[@frbrable]

Does this saddle cause any tailbone pressure? I may try one due to ongoing issues, even though their website says they do not accept returns. I'm that desperate! (And I figure I can always re-sell it online if I hate it).

[@WheelstoWander]

You might think there would be a lot of pressure because of the construction below the tailbone area. I hardly feel any pressure on my tailbone what surprised me actually. Than again I have no direct issues... Good luck!

[@BelleToscan]

Uhhh... Very very excited to test one of these! Generally, I always hear good feedback on the Infinity Bike Seat!

[@WheelstoWander]

It could be a game changer 🤞🏼

[@Bikepacking]

@@WheelstoWanderit is

[@JanKowalski-ux6nt]

Will this saddle be good for long distance and shorter fast gravel bike rides in typical for this kind of bikes bent position?

[@WheelstoWander]

I believe it would be good for both scenario's!

[@JanKowalski-ux6nt]

@@WheelstoWander ❤️❤️❤️

[@eugenebernosky1888]

They sure do. I personally use the Seats in every ride length and position from MTB (upright) to TT, (saddles forward, nose lower, TT cockpit).

[@MichaelRobibaro]

Ive bewn through too many and still not perfect But ill take a seat wih no manhood numbness but sore sit bones, vs comfy sitbones and front numbness

[@WheelstoWander]

Yes, me too!

[@ОлегКарпов-ц9т]

Привет, рад вас видеть. 👍

[@TerryRamsey-jg8fm]

What seat does Maudi use?😊

[@WheelstoWander]

She uses a Selle Italia Donna!

[@TerryRamsey-jg8fm]

Thank you👍😁...😍

[@JanKowalski-ux6nt]

What is the name of the pedals on your bike in this video?

[@WheelstoWander]

They are from the brand PedalSquad. I really like them!

[@gregknipe8772]

thank you from big sky montana

[@WheelstoWander]

You too 🙏🏼

[@HeySeeri]

For me, the price isn't the problem but the lack of a return policy or a demo program.

[@WheelstoWander]

A demo program would be great to test before buying!

[@pauldenney7908]

Do they do a vegan option?

[@WheelstoWander]

Yes, it's called the Vegan Series.

[@stuartchester6899]

@@WheelstoWander why is it called vegan . Cows are not vegan ,they all weaned on milk ffs..what a load of utter crap

[@infinitybikeseat584]

Yes, we have seats now made with marine vinyl.

[@jeffhildreth9244]

I appreciate the engineering and the offering.. wait a year and they will be available from China for $69.

[@WheelstoWander]

I think this is still quite niche...

[@rahmanea100]

❤❤❤

[@KuanTii]

I don't know, this saddle cost over 400 US bucks. Not for the average person. Maybe when the price comes down, way down. Seems like it would work but still a gamble if I would even like it.

[@WheelstoWander]

I found it second hand! That could be a way to go about it... All the best

[@Said.Benfares-ik]

❤❤❤❤

[@StanEby1]

I like stories that lead to a good end. Yaknowhatamean?

[@WheelstoWander]

A comfortable back end ya mean 😆

[@Cycle-Tourer]

No rules for choosing saddle. Every one has it's own ass. Simple!! Beginners should try till they find what is good for them. Experienced cyclist knows what his heeds. So its much easier for him to find the correct one. I can give one tip for the beginners: The price of the saddle has nothing with the comfort. The price usually depends only the brand. Don't be tempted to buy an expensive saddle... Excellent relatively budget saddle brand is "Velo" made in Taiwan.

[@NoCarNancy]

Looks like it makes sense but weird lol

[@WheelstoWander]

It's definitely something else 😉

[@sryoungren]

Infinity definitely… look at race across America… many successful crossings on infinity. Personally, I have ridden 500 miles essentially nonstop, with no significant discomfort

[@WheelstoWander]

Great to hear that! All the best and many wonderful miles ahead 🍀

[@MarkNieuwenhuizen]

What kind of pedal you’re using? Looks like something for barefoot

[@WheelstoWander]

It is a PedalSquad pedal. They are great for going barefoot. I love them!

[@clickbaitnumberone1403]

Pretty interesting design but the money....well. I think I buy me a basic saddle and cut it out myself 😅🤣😂🙂🙃😉😊and sell it for half price of that one

[@WheelstoWander]

😆😉

[@mrjamieholloway]

I appreciate you telling us about this amazing solution, but I don't care how comfortable a seat is, I'm not paying $320 for it. 😂

[@WheelstoWander]

Thanks! Yes, the price is up there. If you cycle a lot like me comfort is very important. All the best!

[@lascelledwards9869]

So you'll ride for miles in excruciating 😢 pain , I a 5 dollar seat.... Smart

[@NoCarNancy]

This saddle is equivalent to putting your face in a massage bed. So i bet it's comfy 😊

[@WheelstoWander]

😂 Love the analogy!

[@NoCarNancy]

@@WheelstoWander Lol

[@krølle-1]

so it`s an ass bed :)

[@Easyysa]

Price makes it a permanent no for me, shame.

[@WheelstoWander]

They are expensive! Perhaps try and look on the secondhand market...

[@TheStoneProjects]

$357 - $477 great product review though

[@WheelstoWander]

Thanks! It is pricey but handmade and very comfortable. All the best!

[@oboyboyboy]

Vabs ryder is the best

[@davidrogers6287]

400.00+ for a bike seat .I dont think so

[@WheelstoWander]

I agree that they are expensive. The comfort however is next level for me.

[@the.communist]

Welcome to the bike industry

[@weeringjohnny]

The saddle itself is not too far out there if it gives me a comfortable ride but the price...no.

[@WheelstoWander]

It is on the expensive side I agree. Perhaps try the second hand market...

[@Radekulis82]

over 300 $ ,that to much for the seat

[@comounaverdura]

That saddle costs more than the bike. Ha ha ha.

[@WheelstoWander]

Not really...

[@comounaverdura]

@@WheelstoWander I was alluding to the fact it is so expensive most people will not buy it.

[@doh444]

I have used a Brooks B17 and Professional for years with absolutely no problems but more importantly, a saddle needs to look good and this really doesn't!!!!

[@WheelstoWander]

That's great! I like a good looking saddle but comfort first for me.

[@krølle-1]

i don't care if it was pink and smells bad. comfort first

[@cinakakar197]

Any saddle your ass will adapt. I bet that this saddle is no different from other saddles in giving you ass pain when you first start riding. Now that last sentence sound different for perverts but anyway you clean minded people got the real point 😅

[@WheelstoWander]

I read many reviews from people who have had out of the box comfort with this saddle. Not everyone gets on with it though!

[@krølle-1]

what's wrong with being a pervert?