When African People Sailed the World

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From Nothing

From Nothing

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@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
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@carlmia305
@carlmia305 Жыл бұрын
@fromNothing have u ever heard of a story about a magical leaf sword. the blade was in the shape of a leaf and I think came from a tree. but i cant find anything on it
@abthedragon4921
@abthedragon4921 2 жыл бұрын
African maritime history honestly deserves more love and coverage than it gets, so videos like this are a welcome sight!
@slimpickens01
@slimpickens01 2 жыл бұрын
So true. However the problem is European historians finds a way to discredit any type of African history that doesn't fit their narrative of "Africa has no history"
@mdiesel23
@mdiesel23 2 жыл бұрын
@@slimpickens01 you believe that it's a conspiracy? I don't think it's historians making the claim that Africa has no history, rather internet layman or ignorant people that learned nothing else beyond what they were taught in school. That goes to those same people that claim that no other people group besides white Europeans contributed to science and math etc etc just because white Europeans happen to add contributions in modern history. People in the U.S. are taught primarily U.S. history and contributions of the majority which happens or by past favoritism via immigration policy to be white European. East Africa in particular has a long tradition of trade. Swahili is like 20% Arabic due to it being developed as a trade language. Trade routes from the coast of Africa to India and the islands in Micronesia has existed for a long time. I don't think it's a failing or conspiracy though, it's available in books and the internet. The U.S. school system has no incentive to teach African, Asian, Native American, or European history. The same way they have school children sing the pledge of allegiance to the flag. The school system is likely designed in a way that teaches you to be an "American" or at least the attitudes, beliefs, and culture that binds the citizens as one people despite different cultures, race, religion, and sex. With that, it sacrifices the aspects. Pros and cons in the education system that weights creating "Americans" over every else. From K-12 however everyone should have the ability to search and read and learn in their own direction (one of the main concept behind college. Though you don't necessarily need college to learn this.).
@safuwanfauzi5014
@safuwanfauzi5014 Жыл бұрын
austronesian have good history in seafaring. they are sea people. and arhcipelago kingdom and empires, for example 'borobodur ship', the malay ship like 'lanchara, lancang kuning. bugis 'pinsi' ship and many others.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
@@slimpickens01 actually Europeans have nothing to do with the failures of scientific advancements in Africa. Only Africans to blame for that.
@skp8748
@skp8748 6 ай бұрын
Somali*
@admirekashiri9879
@admirekashiri9879 2 жыл бұрын
Another new thing learned Zanj (Swahili) iron was prized in India I had no clue they exported their iron too.
@stevenv6463
@stevenv6463 2 жыл бұрын
African iron was super good. I learned in university that their method got such high levels of heat that the quality of steel they made wasn't surpassed until after the industrial revolution. Unfortunately they lost this tradition and now use scrap metal (similar to how traditional textiles stopped being a thing due to donated clothes). They were able to make a documentary getting a few guys to make iron/steel the traditional way though.
@EmilReiko
@EmilReiko 2 жыл бұрын
It is not entirely lost, there are pockets of domestic rural iron production scattered around.. I watch a lot of African blacksmithing videos, and the scrap steel frustrates me - because its near impossible for them to forge weld when the steel constantly changes alloy... So the technique of forge welding is nearly lost in Africa it seems - and when you look at the historical artefacts, they are marvels of complex forge welding... In India, Pakistan and southeast Asia this dependence of scrap steel also seems to cause a loss of technical knowledge. I hope someone in Africa realizes at some point, that because there is a global demand (mabye not large but its there) for bloomery iron for artisan blacksmiths, they can actually make business getting the bloomery kilns running again.
@stevenv6463
@stevenv6463 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmilReiko Do you have any information about blacksmithing in the Indian subcontinent? I know that in the preislamic and early Islamic period there was a lot of prestige to having an Indian sword because it was supposed to be good quality. And I believe the Muslim name Muhannad is named after this Indian sword (which the prophet Muhammad was compared to in a famous poem.)
@EmilReiko
@EmilReiko 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenv6463 Not much, i have mainly been focusing on the history of forging in Northern Europe (Mainly Scandinavia) and around Africa. I know that metallurgy and forging traditions in India suffered greatly when the british forcibly de-industrialized the continent. The steel that was called Damascus and was sought after in all of the muslim and persian world (as well as europe), was a crucible steel that came from India known as wootz.. The knowledge of its manufacture was lost in the wake of the British de-industrialization - it has recently been reversed ingenered by needs. What is sold today as damascus has nothing to do with the historical damascus, but is "just" patternwelded steel I have been binging a lot of blacksmithing videos from India, Pakistan, Afghanistan as they are a great inspiration, just like the African, for someone like me who is into living history and reconstructive blacksmithing. And because its a joy to see that the traditions have survived...
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
Actually the higher quality iron was found in late Middle Ages around the Arabian peninsula and before then was in Europe. The bronze in north east Africa - specifically Egypt was at one point the best.
@prophetofbara1214
@prophetofbara1214 2 жыл бұрын
Seafaring isn't just a Eurasian tradition! I'm glad more people are realizing how well Africans did in seafaring
@dann_mrtins
@dann_mrtins Жыл бұрын
There were but is not like africans had a strong sea traditions
@FromNothing
@FromNothing Жыл бұрын
They did though. Did you not watch the video?
@safuwanfauzi5014
@safuwanfauzi5014 Жыл бұрын
malay/austronesian vs sub-saharan african which have great seafaring power? and have many type style of ship and boat?
@s6748-z5j
@s6748-z5j Жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing DAS RITE!!!!!! WE WUZ SAILORS TOO FAM! WE HAD TRADITION KNOWIMSAYIN?
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
They didn’t actually. Google anything from the video if you want, the creator is wrong on every point.
@ChronologyCast
@ChronologyCast 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you so much for hosting this collaboration. It was great to be a part of work with everyone!
@HistoryandHeadlines
@HistoryandHeadlines 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! Definitely sharing this one with my ancient and medieval world history students!
@Morgue12free
@Morgue12free 2 жыл бұрын
Liking the new intro Jabari 👍
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly it's not "the new intro." It's just the one for this collaboration.
@Morgue12free
@Morgue12free 2 жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing A true buzz killer, aren't you! Oh well, it's a good intro anyway.
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
@@Morgue12free Hahaha sorry.
@veritasetcaritas
@veritasetcaritas 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see African seafaring getting some attention.
@GallowglassAxe
@GallowglassAxe 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice and I see that this focus on just East Africa but West Africa also had a large maritime trade network. During the viking age/early medieval period Dublin was consider the New York of western Europe and was one of the largest trade hubs. There are Irish records of African merchants being there trading exotic animals, spices, and technology. They were referred to as "Blue" people and we're not sure why exactly. One theory is that black is often associated with evil in Irish culture and is often associated with the pagan Norse. So since these people weren't evil they called them blue as a way of respect. Another theory is that they wore blue clothing. In Irish law only royalty was allowed to wear blue and I'm not sure if merchants had to follow this custom as well. So people wearing blue clothing for a commoner would have been quite the spectacle for them. Now we have some evidence that Africans were trading with the Irish even before the Roman times. We found in a chieftan's grave there was a monkey skeleton in it. Though we don't know if this was traded directly from Africa or that this monkey was passed on through a trade routes and ended up in Ireland.
@adamnesico
@adamnesico 2 жыл бұрын
So, Vikings series femiprogresists haven should be Dublin and not Norway? Damn them.
@TermiNation_45669.
@TermiNation_45669. 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff, where can I find more information on this, I'm interested in learning about it.
@mineassasinlol6428
@mineassasinlol6428 2 жыл бұрын
It really puts you into perspective how far could humans travel even milenia ago.
@HessianHunter
@HessianHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Colors aren't understood the same across languages so it could just be a kind of mistranslation of context. The Norse sagas use the same color terminology you're describing where people are "black" if they have dark hair or maybe are suntanned from working outside while dark skinned Africans are called "blue". Some dark-skinned Africans do have deep cool tones to their skin compared to more pink-tinted pale Celtic and Germanic Europeans so that could be why Africans were called "blue" by these northern people. It's notable that in Norse sagas, calling someone "blue" was never a negative descriptor the way calling someone "black" usually was.
@GallowglassAxe
@GallowglassAxe 2 жыл бұрын
@@HessianHunter Exactly! I tried to convey that in my post. Thank you for the clarification.
@redspiritmask
@redspiritmask 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm slowly making my way through all the South of the Sahara videos on the playlist. Only 5 left that I haven't watched yet.
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
It was a great experience watching through them all 😀
@MuriKakari
@MuriKakari 2 жыл бұрын
I love hearing more about Aksum.
@HistoricalWeapons
@HistoricalWeapons Жыл бұрын
imagine being that giraffe. poor animal must be so scared across the oceans
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
@From Nothing - you gunna tell him?
@SamAronow
@SamAronow 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo!
@nomeansno5481
@nomeansno5481 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful video.
@zacharyclark3693
@zacharyclark3693 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! It’s so interesting to see how connected the world was in the past.
@kamm6001
@kamm6001 2 жыл бұрын
woah, what the hell LMAO?? i never knew any of this. this is wild, thank you for covering this!
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
Mission accomplished :)
@admirekashiri9879
@admirekashiri9879 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome just realised after watching Hidden History's video this is your series. And you've answered a huge question I had about these sewn boats. I wondered how they kept them from leaking through out their long distance travels in the Indian Ocean. So they used pitch which they ofcourse had to maintain.
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
Yep and they were still prone to leaking no matter how well they were constructed
@redwallzyl
@redwallzyl 2 жыл бұрын
pitch and caulking with fiber. You can also cover the lashings and seam with cloth or such and nail it over it all.
@admirekashiri9879
@admirekashiri9879 2 жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing I see would have been stressful as hek when they started leaking 😂
@admirekashiri9879
@admirekashiri9879 2 жыл бұрын
@@redwallzyl I see very interesting I wish we knew more about their voyages.
@redwallzyl
@redwallzyl 2 жыл бұрын
@@admirekashiri9879 Usually someone was assigned to just constantly bail out water. Wooden ships all leak real bad. I don't think they used pumps, probably not large enough to need that.
@paxromana5834
@paxromana5834 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. African history is a giant blind spot for me and I get annoyed when my local bookstore carries fifty books on Rome and splits African history into two sections: Colonization and Slavery. Could you recommend any good introductory books to gain a general grasp on African histories?
@JayGoodTarot
@JayGoodTarot 2 жыл бұрын
Great content 🙌🏾 💯
@k.j.freeman5452
@k.j.freeman5452 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Will you present more about West African maritime traditions at a later time?
@mrnancy1114
@mrnancy1114 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff ,as always Jabari, btw the trading town of Rhapta have been discovered some yrs ago , much of it is under water , off the coast of Tanzania , and I think they tied down the trading kingdom of Punt to Eritrea, based off the genetic remains of baboons , glad you mentioned the export of early domestication of Crops to Asia, another important export was the Tamrind and the melons , see Chris Ehret on that, and yes the domesticated donkey from the Red Sea hills although that was an Africa to Asia walk to Sumer and then beyond , rather than shipping.
@mrnancy1114
@mrnancy1114 2 жыл бұрын
@@vnolan633 No but genetically they are the same.
@schrodingersmoose
@schrodingersmoose 2 жыл бұрын
Great and informative video! It's nice to see how Kilwa fits into the larger context of African maritime tradition in the Indian Ocean
@jonasMasterCraft
@jonasMasterCraft 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video! Really, the city built of corals always amazes me :O
@Imperiused
@Imperiused 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this playlist like nothing else. LES GOOOOOOOO!!!
@KenKwameWrites
@KenKwameWrites 2 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about this! Thank you for answering my unasked question! 😅
@KenKwameWrites
@KenKwameWrites 2 жыл бұрын
I respect that you engage with your sources and let us know if some info is reliable or not. Great job on this video!
@bernardheathaway9146
@bernardheathaway9146 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent piece of content for a subject that needs to be discussed more!!
@curtiswfranks
@curtiswfranks 2 жыл бұрын
This was so cool. I really had no clue at all about any of this. You have a new subscriber in me.
@Lovethemusic385
@Lovethemusic385 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! NICE opening sequence!!
@chrisbranch7214
@chrisbranch7214 10 ай бұрын
I would have named this video how Africans traded with Asia not when Africa sailed the world but this is still a great and informative video though
@zacharyclark3693
@zacharyclark3693 Жыл бұрын
Great video! So interesting to hear about parts of the world that are often overlooked in world history (in the West).
@darinmelton8866
@darinmelton8866 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information
@RDM_Corvo
@RDM_Corvo 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Really nice to understand better the africa history!!
@KentwaineWillHawk
@KentwaineWillHawk 2 жыл бұрын
You did a beautiful job with this project
@glennpeterson2477
@glennpeterson2477 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Intro!
@timeformegaman
@timeformegaman Жыл бұрын
Bro, it is so hard to find actual african history online. It is all afrocentric bullshit. Thanks for making an extrenely interesting channel about it. Subbed.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
If you actually look into any of it you would find the videos complete fiction. African traders would bring things to their ports and then foreign traders would bring them on their ships places.
@skp8748
@skp8748 7 ай бұрын
​@@yourfinalhiringagency3890 not true somalis went to Iran India and Egypt. That's the red sea and Indian ocean.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 7 ай бұрын
@@skp8748 yes they did, and they’re not the topic! What is your problem bud - we are not talking about a people who were givin ship technology by Arabs along with half their dna. We are talking about full black blooded africans. Which one of those people were seafaring? N O N E
@micayahritchie7158
@micayahritchie7158 4 ай бұрын
​@@yourfinalhiringagency3890the Mali empire was sea faring. And race is a nonsense anyway it's a cultural/social thing what's your insistence on this 100% black bs? All technology comes from a shared history with different people. We get it you think black people are stupid just say that so we can ignore you instead of trying to launder your racism
@hoyamarris6779
@hoyamarris6779 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I love it. Referral from Home team.
@Liliphant_
@Liliphant_ 2 жыл бұрын
yesss I love this topic
@hahaha70263
@hahaha70263 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@andrewbaran661
@andrewbaran661 Ай бұрын
One question... Where was the logistical supply line needed to outfit journeys across open ocean... The sail-making industry... The metal spikes to keep the ships in one piece... Barrel makers... Food stocks in quantity... The lumber industry... And the carpentry tools... And the investment in currency to pay for the expeditions... Definitely interested in the insight... Thanks...
@Aniwazoa
@Aniwazoa Жыл бұрын
very interesting!
@luziosoadgurl6800
@luziosoadgurl6800 2 жыл бұрын
Like your videos before watching it. I know its going to be good.
@nytehawx
@nytehawx 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and I love the sound track. Where can I find it?
@slimpickens01
@slimpickens01 2 жыл бұрын
10:51 it's called Nyanza, Nam Lolwe, or Nnalubaale either one was and is the original names for this Lake. Just because someone else who didn't know about comes about and supposedly "discovers" something and gives it a European name doesn't make it right. Respect the local community, it's OK to reference Lake Victoria then say it's local name.
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need to lecture me on European "discoveries." I'm already aware of how that works. I actually researched that very topic when mentioning the lake. Unfortunately there are too many names to reference as it had many names in many languages. Lake Victoria is the only one that is universal. Fortunately it seems like many African countries are opting to change it's name to an indigenous one.
@slimpickens01
@slimpickens01 2 жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing even Barby from Geography Now referenced the indigenous names. Btw how in the hell you use a black avatar with a black name but your white? Black face is so passe and despicable.
@juord
@juord Жыл бұрын
@@slimpickens01 he’s literally black, dunce.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Seafaring was also done by Africans and Oceanians as well.
@AfriasporaFilms
@AfriasporaFilms 2 жыл бұрын
A video exposing the extensive West African maritime history crossing the Atlantic and the great extent the Vatican has been involved in burying the facts will get you in trouble, but I would absolutely love and support you if you did. Great production, please keep producing!
@adiamhaile-melekot8136
@adiamhaile-melekot8136 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, Abubakari's Malian voyage to the Americas...
@soda8736
@soda8736 2 жыл бұрын
​@@adiamhaile-melekot8136 you act as if that is a historical fact. it's a story and in the story all the ships sunk and 1 came back then they sent more ship and none were ever seen again.. No west African evidence or influence the Americas that pre dates Columbus.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
Complete Nut Alert 🚨
@AfriasporaFilms
@AfriasporaFilms Жыл бұрын
@@yourfinalhiringagency3890 no one cares what “no content, no subscribers” trolls think.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
@@AfriasporaFilms that’s an interesting take, anyone with no videos or subscribers is a troll. Seems illogical, but whatever. Good luck with the rapture buddy
@weego2585
@weego2585 Жыл бұрын
I wish you covered West Africas expeditions. Great video though.
@EmilReiko
@EmilReiko 2 жыл бұрын
Are there any efforts to reviwe the extinct shipbuilding traditions? Like a number of copies of Viking ships are being built in Scandinavia and efforts are made to reverse engineer the building techniques... Clinker-building traditons have just been declared UNESCO world heritage - a great victory. It would be nice something similar in east africa, to see deep sea going Mtepe's being built again and used to tell the history and preserve cultural heritage
@Umu_Eri
@Umu_Eri 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE BOATS
@mappingshaman5280
@mappingshaman5280 2 жыл бұрын
If you love them so much why don't you marry one?
@Umu_Eri
@Umu_Eri 2 жыл бұрын
@@mappingshaman5280 ⛵
@paulreuben7343
@paulreuben7343 Жыл бұрын
all we want is balance, we want the good and the bad of History of Nations
@世鹏江
@世鹏江 Жыл бұрын
郑和下西洋带来的长颈鹿被称作麒麟
@maddogbasil
@maddogbasil Жыл бұрын
The Somali were probably the best africa maritime peoples on the continent These seafaring people were the first Africans to reach China and India With the first ever african ambassador to China being a mercantile somali adventuring sultan from the city state of Mogadishu The first giraffe ever seen in China was brought to China by the somali as a gift to the Emperor who was so shocked as he thought the beast was a mythical qirin (Chinese Unicorn) One of the largest trading city states on the spice coast of the horn of Africa It has a long and established military and trade history
@skp8748
@skp8748 Жыл бұрын
U see how it tries to frame it as swahili or ethiopian thing 😂
@FromNothing
@FromNothing Жыл бұрын
I never said anything about Ethiopia. And yes the giraffe was brought by Swahili merchants from Malindi, Kenya. Not sure why you are branding me as some shady guy trying to cover up Somali history.
@skp8748
@skp8748 Жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing wrong it left from the somalia followed by somali diplomats leaving Zhang from mogadishu that he even recognised them as muslim like the family he hailed from as stated when they went to the court.
@FromNothing
@FromNothing Жыл бұрын
You know I think a better approach to all of this is to stop with the accusatory attitude and bratty demeanor. It's not helping. You're acting as if I'm some villain intentionally lying about Somali history. Maybe you should just consider the possibility that we just read two different sources. Many giraffes and other African animals have been exported to China throughout the middle ages so it is quite possible that the Somali as well as the Swahili could have done it as separate times. The one that I'm referring to was exported from Malindi to Bengal and then from Bengal to China.
@skp8748
@skp8748 7 ай бұрын
​@@FromNothingChina is a country africa is a continent. Why not say asian and african trade. If you're going to name the Chinese you have to name the somalis. You don't conflate the Chinese with Sri Lankans.
@andujarpain2629
@andujarpain2629 Жыл бұрын
I am surprised that you did not include the forerunner of all dna tests, the national geographic dna test. Now, called Geo 2.0 Helix DNA.
@Jkohnson-db9pk
@Jkohnson-db9pk 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video, really shining a light on a ignored subject. Honestly, I think that the history of Africans, Oceanians and ACTUAL Native Americans (looking at you, kangz) needs more attention in the west. Especially in the U.S., since as we all know it has a large Black population and use to have a large native american population. Like come om! The only thing I would change is if you added Madagascar into the video somehow. I don't know much about its history to be honest, but I just thought in a video about East African sailors that the largest island in the continent would have been mentioned. But that's really it.
@IonTorch52
@IonTorch52 Жыл бұрын
Did you once promote an RPG map based on African culture and mythology?
@Dennis-nc3vw
@Dennis-nc3vw Жыл бұрын
The more I watch this the more I see how the Redguards in the Elder Scrolls were inspired by actual Africans.
@TheAtemiles
@TheAtemiles 2 жыл бұрын
Chinese got giraffes from somalia. The word they use is a somali word. Edit: also malik ambar is oromo not habesha. Habesha is 2 specific ethnic groups in modern day Ethiopia . Amhara and tigaru tribe are only ones called habesha. Even to this day. Historian make sure to call ambar oromo
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
There wasn't just ONE giraffe sent there, nor was it just one voyage and nor were only giraffes sent there. Many animals were, as I mentioned in the video. As for your comment about Habesha, again I mentioned in the video that Habshi was a word used in India to denote ALL African people despite initially only being in reference to Ethiopians.
@TheAtemiles
@TheAtemiles 2 жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing the word chinese use come from somalis... yet u didnt wanna use thkde examples lol. Also im habesha. Stop stealing my history. They called other african slaves zanj. Habeshas or abyisinna ppl were only from modern day Ethiopia. Why do u africans try n black wash horn and north African history???
@FromNothing
@FromNothing Жыл бұрын
@@TheAtemiles I'm not African, I'm American and I'm not "blackwashing" anything. If you have any problems with any of my information, all of my sources are cited on my website. They are all peer-reviewed and accurate. The word that the Chinese used during that time in history denoted a mythical animal (As specified in the video). It was not an African word.
@Shaleqa_Adenan
@Shaleqa_Adenan Жыл бұрын
This inferior tribal community are sick! Malik Ambar is never Oromo in a million years! He is one of the Adal sultanate captured slave and Oromo came later
@supremodenis8844
@supremodenis8844 8 ай бұрын
The giraffes were shipped from Malindi, a Swahili city state in present day Kenya
@Jason_living_in_hell
@Jason_living_in_hell 2 жыл бұрын
yasuke was a real historic figure. he became a samurai in Japan and he was blk African
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
That wasn't really a product of this trade though. Yasuke was a slave of Portuguese sailors.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing yasuke got where he did the same way nearly everyone and everything out of Africa did.
@MrSafior
@MrSafior 2 жыл бұрын
I though you were gonna to talk aboot the Ajuran Sultant, who is an Somalian thalassocraty, who controlled the Maldive. But this discussion on African boats was really enriching. On a less pleasant what's your opinion aboot african channel and people in general,, who openly support Putin invasion of Ukraine ? It's sad that some peoples chooce to remplace an old tyrant by a new tyrant.
@OhSanjiBoi
@OhSanjiBoi 2 жыл бұрын
What does Russia and Ukraine have to do with the topic at hand. Like I could have understood if you asked what his opinion on Russia entering the Neo colonial game in Africa. But this has nothing to do with African History at all.
@MrSafior
@MrSafior 2 жыл бұрын
@@OhSanjiBoi Well, it's just that in francophone channels, there plenty of african bot who post pro-Putin message anytime there a video on Ukraine. And there even channel aboot african culture, who use there channel at plateform to spread pro- Putin propaganda. It's seems to be more of an Fracophone problem then an anglophone one, but I think this need to be adress, or at least raise awerness, because this kind of channel are a danger for channel like "Fromnothing" who try to teach aboot African history wihout spoutting propaganda from either of the camp. Because he and other risk to be amalgamate with this propaganda channel.
@michaelliebenberg3123
@michaelliebenberg3123 2 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between a Mambele and a Hunga Munga
@BoomieV
@BoomieV Жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
A little too amazing, and fantastical
@adamnesico
@adamnesico 2 жыл бұрын
Ehm, one criticism. That there were sorgum in Shang China doesnt mean that there were african sailors in China. If that would be the case, Madagascar would speak african language/s. So I think that those early cultvations interchanges happened due to the malays, the kings of the sea silk route. Another overlooked region. I guess swahili sea trade didnt became big until the muslim age.
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
While I appreciate the feedback, just because people traded crops and farming methods with one another doesn't mean that they speak the same language. I'm sorry but that's just broken logic. Also I immediately followed the statement by saying that: "Aside from this fact however, research and evidence on early contact between these distinct regions of the world remains scant and how direct, or indirect it occurred remains open for debate until further evidence is discovered."
@adamnesico
@adamnesico 2 жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing ¿?¿? I think here there is a confusion. What I mean is, if swahilis would have arrived to china 3200 years ago, they would have arrived too to Madagascar and colonized it. I dont know if you have updated info, but as long a Ive read, Madagascar was founded by malay sailors, so it speaks a malay language. So, I think those cultivation interchanges were done by the malays, whose ancestors we know they have crossed oceans for 6 millenia.
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamnesico Once more I will refer you to the quote from the last comment. That is literally why it's "open for debate." There is no rulebook that states that Madagascar is a prerequisite for China. Australia for example was settled over 40,000 years ago but New Zealand was only settled 1500 years ago.
@adamnesico
@adamnesico 2 жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing it isn’t, but is far more near. Sailors who are able to arrive to China are able too of arrive to Madagascar, wich being far more near, should be far easier to arrive. Although certainly is far enough to not be discovered by people scared of venture towards the unknown ocean. Aniways, you said it, we have no proof of wich people made those interchanges. I guess the odds are in the most spreaded sailors ve4 europeans.
@mappingshaman5280
@mappingshaman5280 2 жыл бұрын
Well Madagascar is special in Africa. There it was the polynesians whom reached it first (if I'm not wrong something about the currents delayed bantu Inhabitation of the island) so Madagascar isn't really related to Chinese african trade.
@ndorobei4391
@ndorobei4391 Жыл бұрын
But, Malaccan traders never met them. Malacca is the only sea lane to China. Usually only from Yemen, India and Persia. Even only Yemenis who travelled to Malacca. Not all Arabs. Not Syrians or Iraqis. Their descendants, Yemenis, are still here in Indonesia. I'm an Indonesian. My grandfather was an Arab descendants from Yemen. Some millions Yemenis here.
@kiwikk8428
@kiwikk8428 2 жыл бұрын
um hi, so ur interpals got deleted and i just saw it :(
@elshebactm6769
@elshebactm6769 2 жыл бұрын
🤠👍🏿
@kaleahcollins4567
@kaleahcollins4567 2 жыл бұрын
I was always aware of the interaction of the two worlds here's a few clues . 1. How does China have Ivory things in there ancient archives because Ivory comes from tusk and tusk comes from elephants that comes from Africa Asian elephants don't have tusk. 2. Gold yes China did have gold themselves At a point but once it was gone that's it . Africa has renewable resources they always had gold especially in sub Sahara African regions let's not forget it was the nubians that was supplying the Egyptian gold . 3 . A Chinese geneticist trying to prove that the Chinese came from a totally different genome from the rest the races making them superior found out that a good 80% of Chinese males have African y chromosomes and about 30% of Chinese females have African mitochondrial DNA. Look it up for precise numbers . Then in reverse there's African families with Chinese surnames . I'm just saying
@KingZealotTactics
@KingZealotTactics 2 жыл бұрын
India has elephants and China also had a native species of elephants till they went extinct but supposedly there are Indian subspecies of elephants in China.
@jameslesley5010
@jameslesley5010 2 жыл бұрын
Has any ancient sub Sahara ship ever been found?
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
Ancient? No. Wood rots, especially wood that is in water all the time. But there are a few pre-colonial models still in existence.
@redwallzyl
@redwallzyl 2 жыл бұрын
The oldest watercraft called the Dufuna canoe was found in Nigeria and is around 8000 years old. That's not really a ship however.
@africariseup1890
@africariseup1890 2 жыл бұрын
@@redwallzyl Yep. The Dufuna is also the third oldest canoe discovered.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
No but there are plenty of wooden tools that archeologists have found older than 50,000 years old, so if there was any ships, tools to build the ships, or depictions of the ships, or models of the ships I’m sure we would have found something somewhere. Or at least a description from one of the people they’d visited. But nope.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing look at this bro. You’re completely misleading people.
@claudiaclaudia936
@claudiaclaudia936 Жыл бұрын
Can U do a video on OLMEC & Afrikaan connection???
@FromNothing
@FromNothing Жыл бұрын
There is no African-Olmec connection.
@Thomas_Oklahoma
@Thomas_Oklahoma Жыл бұрын
Only superficial similarities such as wide nostrils/broad noses and Mounds/Pyramids. Wide nostrils or broad noses is a warm tropic evolutionary human trait found in South Asia, Pacific Islands, Central America, Pacific Islands, American Southeast, West Africa and Central Africa. Pyramids were found to be the ideal structure to build toll structures for many ancients across the ancient world because they had no strong enough beams to hold up the weight of the building, pyramid structure spreads out the weight of the building.
@caioalmeida4139
@caioalmeida4139 Жыл бұрын
what people inhabited east africa before the bantus arrived?
@FromNothing
@FromNothing Жыл бұрын
Khoisan people.
@caioalmeida4139
@caioalmeida4139 Жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing Only them?
@Dennis-nc3vw
@Dennis-nc3vw Жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing Whoa, really? I thought Bantus only colonized central and Southern Africa.
@FromNothing
@FromNothing Жыл бұрын
Easy Africa too as far north as places like Kenya and Uganda.
@supremodenis8844
@supremodenis8844 8 ай бұрын
Not just the Khoisan. East Africa has been inhabitted by Nilotes and Cushites too. Bantus were the last to arrive
@Felipe_XIV-XVI
@Felipe_XIV-XVI 2 жыл бұрын
Is this channel still alive?
@itsbeyondme5560
@itsbeyondme5560 Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
Yes but this content is pure fiction
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 2 жыл бұрын
these boats are very much like Noah's ark with all the animals on them
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
Nope
@NessieJapan
@NessieJapan 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, although "sailed the world" is an exaggeration, as the areas covered leave out the entire Western Hemisphere and much of the Southern Hemisphere, both of which were populated at the time covered in the video. The presence of African coins in Northern Australia also doesn't mean that Africans themselves brought them. They could have been left by Asian traders who had acquired them elsewhere. Replacing Eurocentrism with Afrocentrism is not an improvement, especially when the history is interesting enough without having to be exaggerated.
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
So all of a sudden I'm being Afrocentric just because the title of my video confused you despite me saying in the video that "they traded with lands as far away as China" and because I mentioned coins in Australia that I very obviously said "Could have been placed there in more recent times as a hoax." You should probably take it easy on the accusations. Because I was very fair and objective with all information presented and cited peer-reviewed sources for it all.
@NessieJapan
@NessieJapan 2 жыл бұрын
@@FromNothingYou didn't "confuse" me. You gave a clickbait misleading title. Just own up to it. The coins were most likely left in Northern Australia by Indonesian traders. My objection is not to the content of your video, but to the clickbait title. Needed efforts like yours to correct historical oversights (African sea voyages) should be sold for what they are, without exggeration.
@DirtyEdon
@DirtyEdon 2 жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing ignore him, anything that puts African in a positive way is "afrocentric" to white people who for 400 years have been told that white people didn't even pass the stone age, so they can't grasp everything they been taught is a LIE!
@njandrews4105
@njandrews4105 2 жыл бұрын
Good statement you’re 100% correct
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
Is China not part of the world? Did I use words like "circumnavigate?" Did I claim they went to the Americas? When someone says "I traveled the world" you don't tell them they are lying just because they've only been to 5 countries. Again, this seems like a YOU problem. Nobody else had any issues with the title. Your gripes would be better concentrated on ACTUAL afrocentric channels that claim things like Africans founding the Olmec civilization.
@s6748-z5j
@s6748-z5j 2 жыл бұрын
AYOOOOOO WHATUP WHATUP WHATUP. DEN WE WUZ SAILORS N EXPLORERS TOO DEN FAM? DAAAAYUUUUM
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
I know shocking right? I'm sure many people have their own coping mechanisms against new info that contradicts their bigoted viewpoints on things. I see yours is two-fold. 1) Regurgitating an overused and unfunny meme. 2) Liking your own comment I'm not judging. As long as it makes you feel better :)
@tompossessed1729
@tompossessed1729 2 жыл бұрын
Stop coming to this channel it pathetic honestly
@s6748-z5j
@s6748-z5j 2 жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing DAS RITE YOU TELL EM MY NINJA
@s6748-z5j
@s6748-z5j 2 жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing DEY BE BIGOTED AIGHT YOU TELL EM DAS RITE
@tompossessed1729
@tompossessed1729 2 жыл бұрын
@@s6748-z5j You have no life do ya
@claudiaclaudia936
@claudiaclaudia936 Жыл бұрын
PACIFIC ISLANDERS TRAVELING THE FLAT WATERS
@TheAnimeist
@TheAnimeist Жыл бұрын
I come from nothing I can control.
@lloydgush
@lloydgush Жыл бұрын
18min is not enough to even scratch the tens of thousands of years of african maritime history. (this is basically horn of africa and not much, but nice) But I like you talking about material culture, honestly. Stitched boats, who would have thought... Gonna bet that technique developed before iron smiting. If I'm not mistaken egypts papyri boats are also tied, so maybe it developed from that. If I'm not mistaken, the andines also had a papyri boat, and there's several other examples. This building technique could be way older than imagined.
@Thomas_Oklahoma
@Thomas_Oklahoma Жыл бұрын
I will admit, three years ago or whenever that was, back then when I was tripping off of pseudo Afrocentrist flooding into the comment sections of mine and many other uploads on youtube, If I saw your video title back then, I would of probably jumped to assumptions tripping off of the Afrocentist without fully viewing your whole video. Skimming through some of your comment sections of your videos, that seems to be a big issue still. We all have to see From Nothing's whole video and not jump to conclusions or assumptions, just watch the whole video and hear all the points, it's simple as that, lol.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
Do some research on the topic then, your initial assumption was correct.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 11 ай бұрын
@@ILoveAsia-dk6ug did you watch the video? The real question is what did he say, if anything, that was true! Jabari straight says African traders brought giraffes to China via sea trade. WTF when? Who? What boats carried giraffes Jabari? Wtf? Absolute fiction. Then he goes on to imply grains found in in Indonesia and England are from African traders? WTF more pure fiction. Tbf it’s been a while since I watched the video. Black people did sail the oceans - but Africans did not. Black aborigines peoples sailed possibly as far east as South America while African sailers went around africas coast for the most part. None of their vessels were sea worthy for expeditions, only could keep water out for a little while, african fishermen would bring buckets of clay and grass to patch leaks in the boats, these were very short except for an occasional daring explorer they only ever stayed on the african coast. Goes on and on.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 11 ай бұрын
@@ILoveAsia-dk6ug my comment got deleted somehow so I’ll just make another. Jabari claims African traders brought giraffes to China, and that they traded grain continents away. This is completely untrue - the vessels jabari names are very small and not sea worthy- the fisherman would bring mud and grass to help patch holes as they were underway meaning these were only ever used close to shore. It’s complete bs Africans were definitely not sailing the world. Black people as in aboriginal island people sure - they may have gotten as far as South American but sure I’ll say that’s impressive and give a pass on someone saying they sailed it sure, but sub Saharan African? Nope. Never. Except as slaves sadly or in modern navys. Now why is From Nothing suspect in doing this? In changing African history. Well bc it implies something is wrong with real black history- so jabari has taken it upon himself to make things more impressive by embellishing or leaving it to the listener to surmise what he’s suggested and it’s completely dishonest and disrespectful to our ancestors and anyone else who has history as a passion Not everyone sailed the world, that’s why it’s special. If everyone did it it’d be as special as pooping.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 11 ай бұрын
@@ILoveAsia-dk6ug if it’s ok with jabari I’d love to reply but my comments get deleted now 🤣
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 11 ай бұрын
Nobody is deleting your comments, and nobody ever said anything about African traders in Europe or Indonesia. Like what?? Literally where? Time stamp please? Also you asked "what ships." I literally gave you 2 example by name. Mtepe and Beden. Further proof that you're not only neglecting to watch the video at all, but you're actively spewing bullshit. My guess is that if your comments aren't showing up, it's probably because I blocked you for this very same reason. At some point in the past, under a different name, you were flooding my notifications with bullshit assertions. Try looking in a mirror next time.
@njandrews4105
@njandrews4105 2 жыл бұрын
The Chinese went to Africa not the other way around
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
Nowhere in the video was it claimed to be "the other way around." The trade was 2-way. These African ships weren't built for nothing.
@tonyducks1121
@tonyducks1121 Жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing *"These African ships weren't built for nothing."* Don't you mean that *Chinese* ships weren't built for nothing. Can't you just honestly answer a question for once?? Once an afroclown always an afroclown smfh.
@FromNothing
@FromNothing Жыл бұрын
I said that it was a TWO-WAY TRADE. Meaning there were Chinese sailors AND African sailors involved in the trade. Hell there were many sailors involved from Arabs, to Persians, Indians, to Chinese, Swahili, to Somali and Austronesians. I literally gave you names of the ships, building methods and materials, date ranges, and written records describing them. I even cited my sources publicly for anyone to see, as always yet all you have to say is "But... but... but... it's not possible for Africans to build and sail ships to China. It had to be the Chinese! You're just an afroclown!" Go somewhere else with a better argument unless you wanna keep wasting your time with a baseless complaint.
@tonyducks1121
@tonyducks1121 Жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing Dammit Jabari, who built the maritime vessels man? Who navigated the east Asian maritime routes?
@Aj_Porsche
@Aj_Porsche Жыл бұрын
@@tonyducks1121 The is no evidence in Eastern literature that supports Subs Sailing to their lands. I doubt there is in Sub Saharan Niger Congo literature either.
@KingZealotTactics
@KingZealotTactics 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah no i believe you are misleading people with your video because you have an African centric agenda. The giraffe that was gifted from the king of Bengal to the Chinese emperor it was transported via Chinese vessels, you know the famously massive ships that were actually able to transport such large loads. The Chinese sailed to Africa and traded with the native Africans, Africans did not travel to China for trade there is literally no evidence that i have found to suggest that. The only thing that i could find about Africans going to China during that time period is when ambassador's traveled on CHINESE VESSELS to the emperor. They had a good trade relationship.
@ibrahim1869
@ibrahim1869 2 жыл бұрын
Literally not even 5 minutes of research and I already have 2 sources proving you wrong.
@KingZealotTactics
@KingZealotTactics 2 жыл бұрын
@@ibrahim1869 Sorry bud it's well documented with names/how many vessels/time period, the Chinese during that time period were fairly good at keeping records. Point me in the right direction in terms of sources please and not some biased source.
@ibrahim1869
@ibrahim1869 2 жыл бұрын
@@KingZealotTactics If you go on both the Smithsonian and Silkroadsnippets prove you wrong.
@KingZealotTactics
@KingZealotTactics 2 жыл бұрын
@@ibrahim1869 Sorry but i'm not proven wrong when we have documentation of the events by those that are involved, Smithsonian has been wrong about more than a few things.
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
​@@KingZealotTactics If you have any questions or doubts, all of my peer-reviewed academic sources are cited on my website. Don't go venting your anger at afrocentrics on me because I'm not one of them and I hate them too. Also nowhere in the video did I ever directly claim that the Chinese did not transport animals or that it was exclusively Africans. If so I welcome you to quote it.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
They never “sailed the world” unless you count slave ships actually. 😢
@FromNothing
@FromNothing Жыл бұрын
And you never watched the video or checked my sources. You just saw the title and the thumbnail and refused to accept it. I know how this works. 🥲
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing then you also know yt is plagued by black supremacists saying 💩 that never happened. Africans sailing the world - didnt happen till they were incorporated into Western European navy’s, USA’s or slave trade ships. I’m not watching your vid to learn some kind of hidden history only u know of. I’m just saying the historical truth.
@FromNothing
@FromNothing Жыл бұрын
For you to assume that I am one of those black supremacists even though I quite literally make fun of them in my videos is the sad part of this whole situation. And for you to keep insinuating that it's untrue that black people sailed is also concerning. If you're too bigoted to watch the video, I can't change that. But hopefully you at least do yourself a favor and look up the Mtepe or the Beden. Both of those are traditional varieties of indigenous African ships used nowhere else in history except East Africa. And they were used extensively throughout the indian Ocean for the past 1000+ years. Any peer-reviewed university-level resource will agree. In fact, I cite the resources on my website. Check the video description if you're interested. If you're not willing to do either of those things and you just want to keep denying it then that's on you but there's no point in discussing this any further if that's the case. If you refuse to check the sources or watch then nothing else needs to be said. Have a good night sir/ma'am.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
@yourfinalhiringagency3890 Жыл бұрын
@@FromNothing now I have watched the video, and can safely say it’s complete bs. I never said u were one of them, I said it’s a common theme on these types of videos and you seem to know that’s a fact. Yes the Africans had small skiffs, no they absolutely never went far out with them. You’re attribute to Africans trade with China when the traders were chinese, the giraffe is well documented as being part of a Chinese explorers voyage, not an Africans. The spice trade by sea was mostly conducted by Arabs, very rarely people further east, more rarely Indians, and almost never by Africans unless they were onboard ships of others. The entire vids wrong kid, you call me a bigot point blank I never called u a blk sprmc despite the bs. You’re simply taking other ethnic groups advances and attributing them to blacks. The Arabian Sea doc was made by Arabs who traded along Horn of Africa. Sailing from the Horn of Africa to India is not “sailing the world” its sailing a few countries over at best
@FromNothing
@FromNothing Жыл бұрын
@Your Final Hiring Agency Yes I know there are Afrocentric idiots out there and it makes me sad that I have to be guilty until proven inoccent because of them. And frankly I shouldn't have to waste my effort "pleading my case" to you. As for your remark about the giraffes. There were many giraffes (along with other exotic African animals) transported to China at many different times in history. It wasn't just one. The one I described in the video was transported by Swahili sailors to Malindi, India. It was later encountered in India by Chinese traders. It had been transported there aboard indigenous African vessels and no they weren't "small skiffs." I described the exact specifications of the ships and the sizes and capacity of them. I described their construction techniques, sails, and routes. I gave you names and primary sources from Greek observers as well. All of this info can be found in my sources including JSTOR (used by many universities all around the world). My videos are also used as learning material in universities. If in your head all you want to believe is "Black people were only on small skiffs and slave ships" then that is nothing more than willful ignorance and borderline racism. I will longer no entertain this discussion. Good day.
@jenniferakyiem980
@jenniferakyiem980 2 жыл бұрын
Can you upload more videos you getting slack like a african Pygmy
@FromNothing
@FromNothing 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not slacking, I just have personal things going on. I will upload again though. Also that's not very nice.
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