When can you walk normally after limb lengthening surgery? - Mobility Phases

[@MrKaplanFilm]

Dear Victor, I have to say what great content. You have such a positive attitude and energy. And in contrast to other people you engage (C)LL in such a non-sensationalized, scientific, "casual" but yet informative way. You truly bring a pragmatic view on this topic. Props to you sir!

[@Cyborg4Life]

Thanks I appreciate it!

[@richierich1984]

This video is incredible - love the graphics, chart and demos. Thank you for taking the time to explain the monthly progress in regard to being able to weight bear and walk normally again, Victor!

[@cindymbonilla752]

I recently had a limb lengthening surgery back in the end of August but I suffered a setback in the beginning October & I needed to get the nail removed so the surgeon could place a new nail in my left femur & this is good information for me because I had the surgery done twice & I have a long road to recover but I know I can do it

[@Cyborg4Life]

Sorry to hear about the setback. You have a strong mindset which means you've already won and will make it through ok

[@JonathanHernandez-dl8eb]

Cindy! Are you from SV? Where did you get your surgery? US?

[@cindymbonilla752]

@@JonathanHernandez-dl8eb I’m Salvadorian American & I was born in Houston, Texas US & I live in Long Island, New York & I had the surgery in Hospital For Special Surgery in Manhattan, New York, US

[@Road_to_recovery]

@@cindymbonilla752 I m going to have this surgery in a couple of weeks, is there anyway I can contact you please?

[@cindymbonilla752]

@@Road_to_recovery How would you like to contact me?

[@fatimaageel4339]

Love your channel and all the valuable information you provide. I’m considering LL using precise within a few months time and your insight is a big factor Much love from 🇸🇦

[@Cyborg4Life]

Wish you the best!

[@strawberrysoup202]

What could make the recovery time much shorter to be able to walk normally? Is stretching the biggest factor?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Stretching is for muscles. Bone healing is for support. So both are required as well as stability and endurance

[@Road_to_recovery]

Thank you I found this so helpful! I will undergo Fitbone surgery this month and will make a blog and videos to help others as there is so little info and feedback from other patients out there. All the best to you

[@Cyborg4Life]

Nice! Keep us posted. Love the username - very similar to "Road to Resurgence" haha

[@ZelenoJabko]

And where is this blog? How did it go?

[@Road_to_recovery]

@@ZelenoJabkoit’s instagram.com/road.to.recoveryxx?igsh=MTgyMGZ5NG5jNnZzMA%3D%3D&

[@harshitareddy3760]

Make a video on guichet nail in detail. Would be very informative.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Dr. Giotikas spoke about it briefly in his interview. What more do you want to know? It twist-clicks to lengthen and can handle a lot of weight. Plus, no more direct free promos for nails. I mean look at NuVasive…they’ve made a fortune off me! 🤣

[@SA-Aries]

Hello Victor, tysm for coming ahead and talking specifically about limb lengthing matters. Further I wanted to say that to increase inches 3.5 inches helping many people but on other hand there are many people who wants to add atleast a foot to their height. Please put light on this. I really want some kind of research to be done in this area. After one year of study I too will try to focus on this area because I want an answer to my problem and I know it can be done. Please guide me through about the possibility to increase 12 inches that to with minimal invassive and less painful way. Thanks a lot

[@mikegreenskywalker]

Very informative and well explained :) Thanks , as always.

[@10cmontibia66]

Can you try interview more indian surgeons like Dr Manish Dhawan, suhas Shah?

[@Cyborg4Life]

I have a list of surgeons I'm going to look into in the new year. I'll check into them also thanks!

[@thanmayjains.b2353]

If you gym guy and doing leg workouts for over a years and you decided to lengthening your legs After lengthening how much time it will take to workout as same as before a surgery

[@Cyborg4Life]

Most surgeons say their patients that have achieved pre-op athleticism took about 2 years after surgery

[@iamnotoforiginald9206]

I'm 108 pounds 5'2 atm and am getting the precise 2.2 in spain. My LL doctor told me that it's pretty likely, not 100% though, that I'll go straight to using crutches for 2 months when the consolidation phase starts, so right after lengthening.

[@Cyborg4Life]

That's good news yeah you're lighter than most that's for sure

[@Nicola.M7]

How much did it cost you in spain?

[@iamnotoforiginald9206]

@@Nicola.M7 47K

[@Nicola.M7]

@@iamnotoforiginald9206 what's the place cost?

[@iamnotoforiginald9206]

@@Nicola.M7 Rent + transport + food for those 3 months ended up a few K by themselves

[@kareemnooreldeen3341]

This chart is really awesome & helpful amazing as usual cyborg 👏🤙👍🥂

[@ziyogeclips2998]

Let's say I do precise 2 on my femur to gain 8 cm, I'm going to stay in Turkey for 3 months for the rehabilitation, does this mean I'm going back to my hometown with a walker to be able to walk? And it will take me 7-9 months in total to be able to walk again? Also can you please speak about the 2nd surgery for removal? When is the 2nd surgery required? After 1 year? (assuming I did precise 2)

[@Shah_creates]

Thank you for your excellent videos! This is well-researched.

[@jakemuler6952]

When can i expect to stand and walk after a quadrilateral simultaneous lenghetining

[@cellshaded]

I can't find the answer for this anywhere. Does the bone heal as strong as it was before or does it have a weak point now? I'm interested because I'm into snowboarding and would never want to give it up, so I want to know if doing LL will affect that in the long-term?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Yup here ya go - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZyuo2Zvh7qSmNE. You'll be fine in the long term too if done safely - kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6K5qYd5gs-ojNE.

[@BeepBeep159]

Got my surgery done on tibia in april. Fixaters were removed in july. I still can't walk normal after 4 and half months. My bones consolidation is very slow and Achilles is so tight. You can't do much when bones are broken. I have swelling on both legs when i do stretching it gets worse and come back to some point where i started stretching. Also swelling makes legs bigger so because of stiffness you will feel joint pain. So think 50 times and ask patients 100 times before tibia surgery.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Oh wow sorry to hear that. I wonder if that ballerina foot (equinus) contracture will resolve or might be too far. How much did you lengthen?

[@BeepBeep159]

5.8 CM

[@williamhleza1995]

@@BeepBeep159can u walk normal now I’m considering doing the surgery

[@BeepBeep159]

​​@@williamhleza1995 i can walk without crunches but my calfs are always swollen and walk is painful. if you want to do the femurs not the tibia. And don't go to turkey. Greece is a good option, one of my friend got femurs done in Greece he had no issues.

[@user-hc3tc9wh3r]

Internal or external

[@RAEV3NN]

What about when you have to remove the nail after one year. Is the time periods the same or faster

[@Cyborg4Life]

Much much faster. You can expect about 1 week of taking it easy then a rapid rebound over the next 2-3 weeks to very high function

[@mr.markusi]

Danke!

[@SA-Aries]

Also please make some few groups where solutions can be shared or healthy interaction can be done. Please connect people of different fields which might be helpful in new researches.

[@Cyborg4Life]

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[@montaignedarbyakwallstreet7602]

Excelent. Best video ever

[@LeGoauld90]

Have the smallest precice 8.5mm in my femur (1 side) and I walk with 50% of my weight on this leg during distraction

[@Cyborg4Life]

Wow really!? That's awesome So it was for discrepancy. How are you doing now?

[@icecold4085]

Hey Vic, can doc's prescribe strongest painkillers if you are reliable? I'm wondering since I want minimal discomfort in this aspect (I still am wanna give 100% of myself in physio)

[@Cyborg4Life]

Sure so the pain meds they prescribe typically range from potent (narcotics) to standard (Tylenol) and sometimes muscle relaxers etc. These surgeons deal with severe trauma cases so they're really good at helping patients manage their pain after LL.

[@yvrfhnh]

Is epidural anesthesia available for precice?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Yeah most surgeons offer it as an option

[@xs2278]

Does the recovery varies based on the x cm gained? Like 2.5 cm tibia would probably take half of that amount?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Yeah for the most part - bones would heal sooner and the soft tissue wouldn't be dormant as long and would rebound faster.

[@loia5tqd001]

Thanks. I had my answer.

[@PMRDattebayo]

4 cm femur and 4cm tibia with Stryde or precise is how much time?

[@HASH562]

1 cm takes 10 days so if you do the math 4 cm on the femurs + 4 cm on the tibias = 80 days or 2 and a half months

[@thorfinn7063]

Vic growing out the beard!

[@Cyborg4Life]

Trying! Not sure how long I'll keep it though

[@thorfinn7063]

@@Cyborg4Life haha. I’ve never seen a full beard vic lol

[@Cyborg4Life]

@@thorfinn7063 lol me either...kind of scares me!

[@DamasVamps]

When you say consolidation is 12-16 weeks. Do you mean my bones should be nearly healed at 16 weeks?

[@Cyborg4Life]

yeah about 12-16 weeks after lengthening phase is over so about 6-7 months on average

[@matchme3594]

Hello Victor, is it biomechanics that your body start walking normally again or you need to retrain the body to walk normally with PT? Thanks in advance.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Mostly PT. When was your surgery? Which bones did you do and how much did you lengthen? Also, I have a new service coming out with virtual PT that will actually teach you how to do this faster. Should be launched in next 2-3 weeks. But much of it can be attained sooner

[@Ryan-ez7jn]

When you say it takes 7-9 months on average for a person to walk normally again is that from the start of the surgery or after consolidation?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Yeah from start of surgery

[@kennethmclean3679]

Hi Victor, I like your video content bit I have sent in several questions and you have not once replied, which is disappointing . I guess I will just call the centre in Montreal myself and start the process by asking these questions there since you are too busy or not interested in questions from Canada.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Hello there Kenneth, so sorry for the delay. I have been really busy doing a project on the backend. Can you reply to this with all of your questions and I’ll answer them for you or if you want to email me directly that would be best. Thanks and sorry again.

[@kennethmclean3679]

@@Cyborg4Life Hello Victor, Thank you for the reply. Where do I find your email address so I can send questions and get replies? Im not on social media. Thanks Kenneth

[@DamasVamps]

If normal walking is 7-9months how much after that is full recovery.

[@dacawone]

Weighing in at 223, I don't think I could've done precice 2.2 with only 50 pounds of wb on each side.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Lol me either

[@rafaelg092591]

One question that bothers me a lot. What are the side effects in a long term?? That when you get older, you might lose mobility in your legs with instability & pain

[@Cyborg4Life]

I have a video on that too. But unlikely anything really

[@awstenknight535]

Dear Victor, what is your opinion on patients who say their walk hasn’t returned to normal, 1-2 years post-op? Is their gait permanently altered? Thank you.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Hmmm yeah seems they either didn't do their physical therapy or possibly they did over lengthen and yeah things could be affected unless they get a soft-tissue release

[@DamasVamps]

Any tips on walking normal sooner with LON on femors. I did 7cm and is about 8 months in but i have a werid limp / waddle its getting better but any excercise you know off.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Hmmm hard to say. I mean it sounds like soft tissue

[@DamasVamps]

@@Cyborg4Life yeah I think soft tissue too but will that just go away in time.

[@hikodzu]

Nice information

[@cientita0725]

Dear Victor, I'm a quadrilateral patient in the middle of distraction phase. I currently weight 96lb. Does it mean that I can walk around with a walker since I'm less than 100lb?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Probably not. When you take a step on one leg it will distribute more force on the leg than just 96lbs and could affect weight capacity of the nail

[@bouggyman180]

Can you run/jog for long distance? A couple miles?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Yeah and so can stature patients

[@LJ-bh1tt]

What crutches are the best to keep upper weight off the legs?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Walker is best

[@nman1230]

If someone does 4 cm on femurs would they alter their biomechanics enough to notice a change in running and walking gait?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Probably a bit but you'd adapt so much faster than if you did more

[@kaji6537]

When can we go back to work after doing tibia 7.5 cm i.e long standing chef job

[@Cyborg4Life]

Tibia 7.5cm is a bit much. I don't recommend anyone do over 5cm but it would take about 7-8 months IF everything goes well

[@FearGod101]

Victor can you make a video on parts of the price for each inch that you desire 1-6 inches per device.

[@Cyborg4Life]

I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean how much does it cost to get say 3 inches of length?

[@FearGod101]

@@Cyborg4Life yea because they didn’t add specific like paying for pain killer, staying in their hotel and usually increase in height for both the femur and tibia.

[@Cyborg4Life]

@@FearGod101 Oh I see. Yeah I'm not even 100% sure of every LL clinic's exact price as it is always changing depending on service or device offered. The most accurate way is to reach out and inquire. If I made a video on this it would need to be updated so frequently but perhaps on an upcoming patient roundtable we can discuss this also

[@FearGod101]

@@Cyborg4Life ok thank you 🙏🏾 😇

[@sallemkhan2811]

Sir please simply tell the range from the day of operation no normal walk

[@Cyborg4Life]

Could be fast or longer. Uusally for 8cm it's about 9 months without weight bearing nail and 5-6 months for weight bearing nail

[@sallemkhan2811]

@@Cyborg4Life sir you have a very good style of speaking and deserve more subscribers but your content is restricted to some people. Broden your content.love your way of speaking

[@sifisothejaguar4795]

Can you do both? For example 3cm on the tibia and 3cm on the femur?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Yeah you can but most would just do one to avoid time ti takes to recover, money and potential risk. 6cm on femurs isn't extreme and proportions are usually maintained decently

[@SainBukhari-yq8gn]

Hello bro may I ask u something my right leg is polio effected but I can walk and run but my right leg is weak then left and small then left leg and if I walk so much sometimes I put hand on my leg but not so much my question is can I walk and run like normal people and how much time to recover and able to walk normally like u people without limp if u have little time to guide me its help me to to prepare for this kind of operation of if u think or suggest me for any kind of other treatments tell me pls I'm really grateful to you Pls answer me sir as soon as possible

[@Cyborg4Life]

Hmmm have you consulted about possible treatments with orthopedic surgeons?

[@SainBukhari-yq8gn]

@@Cyborg4Life really grateful to you for ur kind respond yes when I was young they said if ur boon is flexible they try to get long or they cut the bone and fix something and make it bigger that's time I was 16 years old but now 40 years and I want to walk like normal person only my limp finish I just wish now I see ur videos it's give me strength and ur talking style is impressive my English is not good but hope bro u try to understand me and my feelings from the childhood not play with only stand if I run my age fellow laugh u can say I'm complex person I want to finish it now medical science is so high that's why I ask u can u tell me limping person after leg lengthening surgery walk like normal person.i know u r busy but I never forget u reply to me.only I want to know or u know any hospital in the world or any Dr who guide me for this if it's possible thanks bro.here in Pakistan I hear about this operation but I don't want to take any risk and in ur country or any like urs there is perfect treatment and I can able to walk normally very soon. GOD bless u n ur family life is good lunch for u thanks again ur videos motivated me

[@Cyborg4Life]

Hello there and I understand. Yeah there are plenty of good surgeons. Perhaps you can email me directly and I can help direct you in the right direction

[@iGobyy]

im a guy. if i can do split, can i reach 12 cm on femurs alone?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Nope

[@uo9zzzyxwvutsrqp0nmkjihgfe43]

Will you be normal after getting limb lengthening surgery?? What are the risks

[@Cyborg4Life]

Your anatomical structure and biomechanics will be different but after enough recovery time the body can adapt and you should be able to do the same things as before

[@ThePassportPapi]

What about quad?

[@Cyborg4Life]

A bit longer depending on things but probably 9-11 months

[@JB23669]

Is stryde back available?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Nope not yet

[@sudhinkumars7940]

Omg.... My comments toooo

[@l2rlive520]

6 cm femur is risky?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Not really in most patients

[@YuinAstrophel]

I'm a happy 5'10 but I have bowed legs and stubby femurs. I would love to fix my bows and lengthen my femurs since it would be easier to doggy style.

[@jonadams5547]

Any thoughts on swimming during recovery?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Yeah surgeons say it's fine if you have internal nails after incisions heal 2 weeks in. But be cautious of course

[@zaenqureshi5032]

Do you feel like your walk is funny or rickety ?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Not mine but I only did 4cm tibia. Others are fine too. It's those who haven't rehabbed well who have problems. My walk is not perfect for other reasons related to my discrepancy

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