When Death Actually Meant Something In Dragon Ball

[@JohnnyX225]

My main question always has been…If Future Vegeta stayed alive instead of Gohan for the same amount of time. Would he have been able to defeat the androids & would trunks have been stronger as a result? I know that Gohan being alive brings such a more tense tone like you said in the video plus more fans are more attached to Gohan than Vegeta,( more like a lone wolf type of vibe from a noble character throughout the series as well as being Goku’s son) but the question always was how strong was Vegeta in contrast to his future version compared to Gohan cuz I seen that he was a super saiyan without the knowledge & with knowledge he still lost but was comparatively closer to stronger androids of the time of their battle.

[@nathanlamont9920]

I doubt Vegeta could last as long as Gohan or even Trunks for that matter. He pride won't allow him to make tactical retreats, especially multiple of them.

[@JohnnyX225]

@@nathanlamont9920 I thought that too until I think about how long he remained under frieza until he was strong enough to challenge him.

[@Eric6761]

​@@JohnnyX225to be honest, Frieza was a Special case since he knew to some extent how powerful was Frieza and had means to defeat Frieza but Vegeta against Androids in manga was implied that had no Super Saiyan

[@zenkairanger]

@@Eric6761 Agreed. He didn’t have Super Saiyan in the future timeline. Seeing Trunks transform into a Super Saiyan and wiping out Frieza, that plus hearing about the Androids coming in 3 years, definitely pushed Vegeta faster to transform. All that on top of Goku being a Super Saiyan. All of it drove Vegeta mad. Even if future Vegeta had super Saiyan when the androids attacked, he wouldn’t be nearly as powerful. Good looks for reading the manga my dude. Everybody assumes Vegeta was a super Saiyan in the future due to the history of trunks special.

[@Eric6761]

@@zenkairanger thanks and as a Fun fact: Dragon ball Raging Blast 1 although not canon actually got into Vegeta mentality and Vegeta even said to himself in the game: "I can't believe they are Super Saiyans...but if they can do It! I can!"

[@zenkairanger]

This was worse than Bulma dying on screen in front of Trunks. That walk to Gohan’s corpse in the pouring rain just hit different.

[@Nev1812]

🌧️ 🚶🏼

[@Banjo1756]

better the piccolo dying and being revived off screen in the super freeza ark

[@JeffreyDahmerTheGoat]

bulma dying in real life is the saddest

[@mdxque8393]

Definitely one of the best animated sequences in Dragon Ball, Trunks transforming in rain. A beautiful and sad scene for sure.

[@QaamansLand]

What did you edit? I read the original comment but didn't see a change

[@crimsonking4151]

Then DBS made a shitty remake of the scene and watered it down

[@mdxque8393]

@@QaamansLand Sorry. I thought it sounded like “the best animated Trunks sequence” which I thought just sounded weird.

[@tlst94]

@@QaamansLand What if in an alternate timeline, Toriyama made the manga version as cool as the anime special? With Gohan's arm loss being shown, along with his fight against the Cyborgs, and Trunks first going SSJ in the rain.

[@SovereignReaperX]

Future Gohan is probably the most tragic character in all dragon ball. And I would love a manga or anime special that focused on gohans feelings and time through out the android threat. Imagine if Gohan got tired of living like this and that's why he was so hell bent on fighting a battle he knew he wouldn't win. And his death mark the last stand of the original z fighters and instead of him dying like Goku with a brave smile, he dies in agony blood and rain, Never seen after again.

[@0vern9K]

The fact that he died so normal to. No self monologue, no last heroic stand. He’s probably the only character with a realistic death. He was just flat out killed, his screams even echo out then slowly die out as he’s dieing. Shit was fucked up.

[@DaBossMn]

The Kakarot DLC honestly made his death feel a lot more impactful since it does add some side quests aside from the story we’re all familiar with

[@Allmenshouldrespectallwomen]

You play with cartoons?

[@Eric6761]

Another amazing detail is that Gohan can't win the Androids even when the game tries to give you the "hope" to beat them, i only saw something similar in God Of war 2

[@hunterXhamster]

​@@Allmenshouldrespectallwomen you like your own comment?

[@marthaawah8948]

@@Eric6761 damn thanks for reminding me of that scene personally i thought of beyonetta 3

[@lordnul1708]

​​@@Allmenshouldrespectallwomenyes little kiddo, video adaptations of Japanese animation exist. A good chunk of them are unironically good, Berserk is a fairly definitive example, and so is DBZ Kakarot. And they are always better than the live action adaptations, and especially better than the Netflix adaptation. Also that self-like you put on yourself just adds to the childish nature of your reply. Anyone who makes fun of someone else's hobby is inherently childish. Yes, even if that hobby is video games or animation.

[@SaucemanK]

The history of trunks is truly harrowing. When I was I used to not want to watch it because seeing the world destroyed and everyone dead was really messed for me at the time. Definitely one of the best parts of the series.

[@ohhellwhereami2574]

Now that timeline is gone fr , everything gohan sacrifice was in vain :v Aside from trunks

[@JustSomeDude848]

Future Gohan is overall one of the saddest characters when I really think about it. From the age of like 4 he had to struggle. From the Saiyan saga watching his dad and piccolo die, then the frieza saga, a small time of peace then the androids come. There was almost ALWAYS another menace to survive against. From there he just did what he could against the androids and ends up dying like it was nothing. If not for trunks it would have been for nothing.

[@CannibalCowboy51]

I agree. Gohan's death in the Trunks special definitely hits differently than any other death in all of Dragon Ball. My 9-year-old son and I have watched all of the dragon Ball anime and that was the only movie he didn't like. He said it was too serious.

[@mrm64]

I will always love how dark this special is. It's like a never ending nightmare, really shows how horrifying the Dragon Ball world is. To me, future 17 and 18 are the scariest villians in Dragon Ball history. They're not aliens like King Piccolo, the Saiyans, or Freeza. Not some magic djinn like Buu. They're cyborgs. Part HUMAN....FROM Earth. They're literally wiping out their own kind and for what? Because they can. TFS stated that perfect. "It's not about why, it's about why not". That and 18 and 17 are good looking young adults. A very twisted imagery, how something so "beautiful" could cause so much horror for decades. I can only imagine how many countless people were lost in the mayhem, children included. Truly a Terminator-esc story (Toriyama being influenced by said Terminator series.) I also really feel so bad for Chichi, losing Goku in such a tragic way, only to lose her son in a more brutal way 10+ years later...

[@nostalgianetwork1225]

I can say Vegeta would be at least a little proud that Gohan went out like a warrior

[@xylynthian753]

I don't know man he literally died to the energy blast volley. That attack had a 0% kill rate before him.

[@scenicguy9610]

⁠@@xylynthian753he wouldn’t be able to judge considering so does the final flash lol

[@hortinus]

​@@xylynthian753Full Power Energy Wave from BT3 😂

[@xylynthian753]

@@scenicguy9610 You're not wrong lmao

[@jakd2962]

Great video. I would also like to add that another tragedy in Future Gohans life is that he had to let his dream of being a scholar/academic die due to the androids. He was no longer able to pursue school and become the scholar he and his mother wanted him to be. He had to become a fighter which he ultimately hated becoming as this was not his true nature. It’s like the equivalent of goku no longer being able to be a martial artist. As gokus dream is to be a fighter that fights other strong people, same way gohans dream was to be this great knowledgeable academic. Unfortunately he could never realize that dream which I believe just adds to his tragedy.

[@jackwei22]

The Saiyan Saga was pretty brutal in the sense that so many of Earth Special Forces got slaughtered in a hopeless resistance to the Saiyans which is the first time Gohan himself saw his friends die and not been able to save them or do anything about it that traumatised him especially Piccolo giving his life for him that set the tone for him.

[@laidbacklarell6997]

Before I seen the Thumbnail I already knew it was Future Gohan 😔🙏🏿

[@Allmenshouldrespectallwomen]

So this cartoon character died and your sad about it??? Or did the voice actor die? I don’t understand

[@JACQUEZ23]

​@@Allmenshouldrespectallwomenoh u one of those huh

[@laidbacklarell6997]

@@JACQUEZ23 Haha I know I was thinking the same thing 😂☠️

[@user-pn9xp1gz2l]

The fact that the future timeline is the original timeline is so depressing and dark. All of the characters we know and love are dead. The characters that we are watching during the android cell and buu saga leading up to Super are alternate versions in different timelines

[@snazzywave]

I just thought about something, when Trunks becomes SSJ, it’s treated with such an incredible weight. At first it feels like the tables are turning until Trunks tries to throw hands with the Androids and nearly dies but gets rescued. Although we do get a satisfying resolution at the end of the Cell saga, it shows that even though Trunks achieved the SSJ form and probably trained during that time skip, without time travel and training with the proper resources, he would’ve been cooked and the earth would be doomed.

[@darkthunder168]

I love Gohan being the reason for Trunks to achieve SSJ instead of Trunks just having it in the manga, that scene ALWAYS GETS ME, it is just beautifully done all around, Future Gohan's death is the most iconic death in DBZ imo

[@Am1nTheSaiyan]

For me the saddest death doesn't have to be only a permanent death It's a sad moment in terms of scenarios itself which is for me goes to krillin 2nd death against Frieza That moment is really hella underrated in the anime community

[@SRT_DRE]

Uh, no. Cause Krillin came back right after that. The future timeline deaths are much more sad.

[@ohhellwhereami2574]

​@@SRT_DREwell hope were close to 0 , goku was losing, krillin would've been dead forever if legend didn't come true

[@souperhappydrinkingcoffee5130]

And goku realised nameks balls were gone and that krillin wouldn't be allowed another resurrection with earth's dragonballs

[@SRT_DRE]

@@ohhellwhereami2574 but that’s head canon bro. We all know Goku has plot armor and wasn’t losing to Frieza.

[@SnowRabbit-bq5yc]

​@@SRT_DRE get Gohan's meat out of your mouth bruh

[@SRT_DRE]

1. Future Gohan’s Death. 2. Piccolo’s death in GT. 3. Bulma’s death in the Goku Black arc. 4. Goku’s death in the Cell Games. 5. Goku’s death in GT. 6. Angry trucker death after Vegeta blew him up fighting Android 18.

[@Karma-dy8xc]

honestly future gohan had it rough the most out of all the z characters (yes even vegeta since he eventually recovered past his trauma…) dude was forced to fight throughout all of his life without the amount of peacetime that his present self had… as for the video itself, its really sad that some of the death feels nothing when we look at krillin (present), any of the people dying on earth (present), and anything with buu or anything like that since the dragon balls are here to fix everything and thankfully we see some deaths that mean something

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

And the Sad Thing is thats how history was supposed to go untill Future Trunks went back on time

[@Eric6761]

Another amazing thing is Future Gohan feels like a progression of Gohan, in some media that deals with Future and Past conecting a character in both times either feels the exact same or so diferent that feels weird him being that way without a proper explanation, Gohan for me is middle ground because it feels Gohan but It makes sense why he feels diferent and the animations made him a good character in a special of less than 2 hours

[@kittiekatherine]

At this point in the story the characters shouldn’t even have fear. I remember watching Goku and Krillin crying over Roshi during the TOP and thought now you know death ain’t never stopped any of you.

[@supersaiyangodvegtio9590]

History of trunks is def sum else man, da music, da story tellin, da odds and how future gohan went out like dat mannnj shii b hittin💯. Tho theories and ideas be goin in as imagine if vegeta was alive along wit gohan perhaps they could’ve won maybe maybe not, it’s def interesting to wonder about. Buh man future gohan death truly sum else.

[@DenniDownBad]

My favorite character in all of Dragon Ball is probably the most tragic. Future Gohan was really cool and it hit me like a ton of bricks when he died. Kinda unfortunate he boils down to a plot point for Future Trunks' development. And yes i "enjoy" the anime adaptation way more than any other adaptation but the Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot verison is probably the saddest.

[@prodsage2719]

Future gohan didn't desreve to die so helplessly and brutal. Not only did they jump him but left him face down in a puddle

[@Dontdoit_]

I can 100% agree that this is the saddest death in the series. And Future Trunks is a highlight of the series

[@Itsjustlikemagic]

I think Toriyama’s whole point of Gohan’s death was to show the passing of the torch. In the past timeline, Goku passed the torch to Gohan to save the world. In the future timeline, Future Gohan passed the torch to Future Trunks to save the world.

[@Emanuel-wu3zn]

Crazy thing is Future Gohan and Trunks were the last two Saiyans left at that time until Gohan died leaving Trunks to be the final one. The prince’s Son 👑

[@sagittario42]

i just realized. 17 n 18 killed literally children. not just teens or adults. not just animals and plants. literally kids. how long have these two sunk into their own power.

[@vaporized55]

Hey have you ever played dokkan cuz right as you brought this up theres an lr about future gohan you should see the animations its pretty heartwarming. The unit in the games serves as a what if goku and picclo joined gohan in a final kamehama instead of just not helping him.

[@QaamansLand]

No but several of you have pointed this out. I uploaded this video because it was a sad video in theme with September 11th. It's just a coincidence.

[@vaporized55]

@@QaamansLand oh, well have you seen the video game animations at least?

[@Takayukixblade]

also future Gohan the death theme in dubbed Had me Bawling as a Gohan fan It felt like Someone had my heart in a choke hold the death scene still has me cryin in 2023

[@QaamansLand]

That's why the comment section is awesome. I forget details too.

[@kooyah6420]

I just realized this was the only instance where Vegeta's Technique actually did something, and it's not even in the main timeline 😂

[@PriaMason-o8y]

Love your video qaaman very enjoyable ❤❤❤

[@herohut725]

I've been saying we need a 12 or 24 episode series of this timeline. That's 13 years of canon story that they could tell. What Gohan went through growing up would be great. Maybe he could run into that timeline of Videl for a short time, his training, first super saiyan transformation. Gohan being face down in the water when Trunks finds him was way more dramatic. Much better.

[@JjJj-lx7xx]

Agreed

[@herohut725]

And another thing, if Bulma is so smart, why didn't she take some *ahem genetic material from Gohan when he was of age of course. She or someone else could birth more fighters. At the very least they could amass a crew at some point.

[@black2785]

“His emotions is a gift” so true, maybe that’s the essence of beast Gohan

[@zo615]

Beast gohan is dogshit

[@bdhuffman42]

Isn't it technically possible that 17 and 18 got stronger over the years, too? Dragon Ball Super has shown us that just occasionally fighting regular humans gave him stupid increases in power. Maybe it wasn't just that Gohan and Trunks weren't training enough. Because they can't feel the androids, they didn't know they got stronger.

[@Shiyoken]

Originally they were written to not been able to get stronger; hence the infinite energy, compared to 19/20, with no infinite energy but the ability to gather energy

[@Cratossama]

They could’ve wished Gohan back but instead Krillin wished for the bombs to be removed from the androids and Trunks didn’t have the balls to tell them

[@Rikoyasha15]

Anime and manga probably didn't show cause it wasn't what they were probably going for, but I'm kinda curious what all was going on in Gohans head. For example, if he was much more depressed then he let on to us the viewers and around other characters. Cause if he's down, that would affect Trunks and Bulma. - lost friends and both father figures. - alone with no one to help train and guide him at a young age. Till Trunks is old enough. - He may have cut off connections with his mom and only ever seen Bulma cause of Trunks. If Kakorot game is anything to go by, he lives alone in the mountains to keep the few ppl he has left safe I they ever track him down. - all that stress wondering if they'll ever get the jump on him, having to train carefully not to get their attention, having to heal the long and old fashion way, losing his arm, keeping a brave face around the few remaining ppl. Idk what Gohan was thinking, leaving behind a weaker and in experienced Trunks by himself, I almost want to say it was depression or he was just done and didn't want Trunks to get dragged in his suicide mission

[@Xlen-omega]

The saddest deaths in no order for me Krillin's first death in Dragon ball. Future Gohans death. Vegeta's final atonement. Piccolo's death in the sayain saga. These deaths are the ones that hit me the most for different reasons.

[@SRT_DRE]

Not Piccolos death in GT? Sheesh.

[@Xlen-omega]

@@SRT_DRE Nope just didn't feel sad.

[@SRT_DRE]

@@Xlen-omega you clearly forget about many deaths in the DS series if Piccolo’s death in the Saiyan Saga is in your top 4 😭😂

[@Xlen-omega]

@@SRT_DRE His death in the sayain saga had better build up. Coming off original Dragon ball.

[@SRT_DRE]

@@Xlen-omega better build up? Piccolo wasn’t even a fan favorite at that time. He was a bad guy before Raditz showed up and he died in the same arc.

[@TrvisXXIII]

Great commentary, man. I can tell you dug deep to get every nuance out of this topic

[@QaamansLand]

Thanks. After reading all of your comments I actually thought of new stuff

[@TrvisXXIII]

@@QaamansLand my comments? Lol or you mean the audience in general 😂

[@McGomezAddams]

A tear jerker for sure!

[@deviousj5868]

Yes this was one of the most depressing things in anime history.

[@Bardocksssj]

Absolute banger of a vid

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

I never really felt sad when goku died to Raditz mainly because i never had read or scene dragon ball untill later on

[@newhybrid101]

rest in pepperoni gohan

[@QaamansLand]

Huh?

[@icyd1amond]

I'd have to say, Future Gohans death and Vegetas death in the Buu saga are the 2 saddest deaths in the franchise even though Vegeta does return. It really showed a turning point in his character and that he's fighting for others for once.

[@loganw1232]

Been planning a dragon ball story about death. Or a villain that has the power to end the existence of a person to the point they aren’t in other world or the dragon balls can’t bring them back. They are “gone”. The villain also seeks to collect all the dragon balls to increase his power so he can end Zenos for ending his people.

[@MrMartellSincere]

Rip to future Gohan and entire universe and other world 😮😢

[@mrmampmamp]

That's tough, Qaaman. I was in shock when Kuririn got killed by Tambourine. Buddy went to collect Goku's stuff and never came back. That was brutal.

[@LOCKED-ON]

I think Kakarot really amplified this scene to make it much more saddening. In the end I knew Gohan was going to die, but him fighting the Androids again and seeing all of the vigor he had the whole fight just disappear and the Androids just slowly beat the crap out of you just makes the scene all more worse. I think what really hits home is knowing you can’t win but you still fight.

[@MSCLeap75]

Death mattered more when the dragon ball wishing rules were more strict. Like you were scared for characters like Krillin to die one more time knowing he wouldn't get another chance. So the hellhole he was in on Namek was mad intense until he horribly went out by Frieza.

[@KingSalaman]

RIP future gohan 😢🙏🏼

[@Eric-gp3hi]

Yes I agree Qaaman Future Gohan’s death is one of the most tragic depressing deaths in Dragonball especially since Future Gohan lived most of his life training alone and losing his dad Future Goku and his second father figure/best friend Future Piccolo and uncle figure/best friend Future Krillin. Future Gohan never got to meet Future Videl, have Goten as a brother and have Pan as a daughter. I wish we could have had Future Gohan meet Present Gohan, Goten, Videl and Pan.Those would make interesting actions. The good at the end Future Gohan’s legacy lives on through Future Trunks and Future Trunks will continue protecting his new timeline in the memory of Future Gohan who lives in his heart forever.

[@QaamansLand]

Damn, your comment made me think about more points I could have said...

[@Eric-gp3hi]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@QaamansLand Yes Future Gohan’s life is depressing and it really makes me think Future Gohan could have had his ideal life just like Present Gohan achieving his dream of becoming a scholar, having Goten as a brother, having Future Videl as a wife and Pan as a daughter. I think if Future Gohan would have some pretty good interactions and would have a lot to talk about with Present Gohan, Goten, Videl and Pan.

[@abdulbah2176]

Another point about the rain in the scene is that when trunks finds Gohan, he starts crying but the rain blends in with the tears that you barely notice it

[@BrazilBoi55]

Krillins death on Namek was also pretty wild because he had already been resurrected before that and it felt like for a bit that he was never coming back

[@Mandalore_ultimate]

Indeed the saddest Dragon Ball death

[@supremeraizen561]

8:29 We’re just going to ignore that transition?🔥🔥🔥🌊🌊🧊

[@QaamansLand]

I don't follow your comment. What about it?

[@supremeraizen561]

@@QaamansLand I’m saying when Gohan rolls and then it cuts to 17 rolling into a kick so smoothly. That goes hard🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@forbiddenkatana2620]

Man I remember seeing this when I was young, gohan was and still my favorite character so when I seen that i got on Budokai Tenkaichi 3 and started beating the brakes off of 17 and 18 for an hour 😭😂

[@extremelegendsupreme4596]

I’d probably say future gohan tbh,but then again king kai could’ve easily helped revive him.

[@Allmenshouldrespectallwomen]

When rules and logic don’t make since in their own universe it’s not good

[@mike_datzmag1c21]

This special messed me up as a 9yr old...but the person I Feel the Most for was Future Chi Chi...not only did she lose Goku to the Virus but I remember when mentioning Gohan fighting the androids, saying "I don't know what I'd do if I lost him dad"(talking to Ox King)...to know how much Chi Chi loved Gohan and how he was her baby(like most moms feel for their child/chlidren) I know it BROKE her to hear from Bulma what happened..I'm getting chills just thinking about it😨😣…it’s wild this was the original timeline/intention of how dragon ball would be

[@QaamansLand]

Blue?

[@mike_datzmag1c21]

@@QaamansLand how do u mean

[@QaamansLand]

You said Blue in your message

[@mike_datzmag1c21]

@@QaamansLand ohhh it’s probably cuz I posted the emoji from computer and not my phone but yea I feel chi chi might’ve checked out not too long after hearing about Gohan smh 😞

[@anthonywomack2260]

Dam this is sad, I'm gonna watch when Future Trunks kills the andriods after this lol

[@QaamansLand]

What is sad specifically?

[@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb]

Love the History of Trunks tv special

[@QaamansLand]

Reason?

[@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb]

@@QaamansLand because of Gohan vs 17 fight

[@JohnSmithIlIlIlIl]

...and then the next scene is an Eye-Catch of Baby Trunk Crying and Little Gohan looking at him like "WTF is your problem?"

[@Agent-57]

The reason future timeline feels so dark is that we are used to people coming back from the dead in normal timeline. Removing that saftey is what makes it really worse

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodGeek99]

I love history of trunks and future gohan may be my favorite version of the character but I'm good on it, i may have seen it once or twice and the abriged version lol. It's just to sad and depressing for me to rewatch

[@Allmenshouldrespectallwomen]

I see this cartoon is important to you. I think my little cousins watch this stuff

[@mike-the-guy8922]

@@Allmenshouldrespectallwomen Jerk.

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodGeek99]

@@Allmenshouldrespectallwomen i grew up watching dragon ball lol

[@AdrianCox-w3o]

my saddest death in all of dragonball z was vegetas finale attonment in the buu saga even through they bring him back it was a kind redemption for the character and to see he did everything he could stop majin buu was amazing

[@sageoverheaven]

Vegeta nooo VEGETA YEESSSS

[@orenges7034]

I’d say some contenders were also deaths like Krillin from the DKP arc, Goku from the Cell arc and maybe Tien from the Saiyan arc

[@soulrobinson5731]

For some reason, I feel like future Gohan would’ve won, I like that beam struggle between him, and an android, they remind me of the present Gohan, one arm against cell and defeated him.

[@mostcreativename1]

Real question, do you time these for what's happening in the fandom? Like this is actually insanely perfect timing for what's happening in dokkan and what happened semi-recently in DBH

[@QaamansLand]

Nah I did it because of september 11th being a sad day

[@mostcreativename1]

@@QaamansLand oh. I can't tell if joking or...? Either way I thought it was good timing in that sense. Do you have Discord Mr Qaamansland? I've been watching you for ay this point around 10 years and I don't think I've ever thought to ask if you do

[@demi-femme4821]

There is kind of the lingering questions of "what the hell was Piccolo doing, why doesn't he come back for 24 hours, surely he's strong enough to kill 17 and 18 after 13 years of training in Otherworld" and "what the hell was King Kai doing, why didn't he ask the Namekians to revive Piccolo, surely he would care about Earth enough to want to ask that favour of them and surely the Namekians would want to return it." Yeah, establishing consequences in the "wish away consequences on the magic dragons" manga is going to naturally be hard to do without raising some questions. Even if we assume that Vegeta went to Hell and Goku couldn't come back because he died of a disease instead of in battle, that still raises a LOT of questions. TBH it speaks to how much better off Dragon Ball would be without its titular artifacts having the power to raise the dead. They ended up doing that better in Super with the Goku-Black arc where they establish that Black destroyed the Super Dragon Balls and killed the Namekians.

[@sourlesscream1272]

If you haven't seen OG, watch it and don't read I'd you don't want major spoilers. Honestly, for me the saddest death was Krillin. No not on Namek, but in OG when he was killed by Tambourine. It was the first death in the show, well at least apart of the main cast, and it had wait. Yes we knew the dragon balls would work in bringing him back because of the Red Ribbon Army Arc. But we didn't think about that, we thought about this child that we see grow into becoming Goku's friend. You felt for him. And it made it even worse later in the arc when King Piccolo got his wish and you knew Krillin would have to wait even longe-- then he destroyed shenron. Hope, at least for me, was gone that we would never see Krillin again as their was no way of bringing him back. It made Goku's journey feel so earned when he got the win and three years later when Krillin finally got to thank the man who brought him back to life. All of this being in direct contrast in how the series, up until this point was, being a light hearted adventure comedy with a martial arts twist to it. Yes Future Gohan's death is truly sad, but it came at a point where we are desensitized to death in the series despite knowing that he can never be brought back without the knowledge of where new Namek is. Added to the fact that it is a different timeline, that has little to no effect on our timelines events outside of two arcs in the show. Definitely hits hard, but I don't consider it the saddest moment in the show for me.

[@kshitijchauhan1479]

correct title : "giving future gohan a blow*"

[@QaamansLand]

Huh?

[@supersaiyangodvegtio9590]

Aye Broskey side note did u ever get into dragon ball deliverance? Or nah?Me personally I dnt think u would b disappointed fosho

[@QaamansLand]

Link?

[@supersaiyangodvegtio9590]

@@QaamansLand kzbin.info/www/bejne/roO7n2hpbaZ9f9ksi=HZotWZ6oVGHnf7fE

[@supersaiyangodvegtio9590]

@@QaamansLand gotchu Broskey I just sent u the link , it’s 3 episodes rn I believe it’s on goin and I believe the creators are working on episode 4. And since piccolo is ya fav character if I’m not mistaken you will def like it💯🙏🏼🔥

[@QaamansLand]

@@supersaiyangodvegtio9590 Where did you send it?

[@supersaiyangodvegtio9590]

@@QaamansLand In this comment section like the replies that we are using rn, I’ll try to make another comment wit the link hopefully it will work

[@ironrevenger9386]

GOHAANNNNNN!

[@CoVa923]

The rain also in a way shows/could represent the blasts that the androids used to kill gohan

[@eranshachar9954]

I agree 100 % with that. Although I must admit any death of Kuririn broke my heart but it was reversal unlike the HOT timeline. Makes me think of the Namekian DB and maybe they could have been used but it doesn't work like that in a timeline which is meant to be dark. There is an inconsistency I don't understand in DBS- We clearly saw Yajirobe die against the androids. How is he alive in the same timeline in DBS?

[@TaariqBethea]

They retconned his desthv

[@eranshachar9954]

@@TaariqBethea True

[@xShinigamiRyukuux]

Yajirobe being there for the fight was only shown in one episode of the anime. The manga, and any other part of the anime doesn't have him with the rest of the Z-team. Also, he says in Super that Korin gave him the last of his Senzu to save him.

[@darkbisongaming3406]

Him picking up gohan lifeless body made me almost cry.

[@miguelperez9906]

I personally feel like the anime death was better especially with the whole fight being a lot more even because it makes it feel like gohans death is a much bigger loss than in the anime. Seeing as after watching that fight and trunks’s statements about him being able to keep up with one Android in the show proper it’s like they were just a hairs breath away from winking before it got cruelly snatched away. Plus gohans sacrifice being what pushes trunks into transforming during the rain is golden. Also I kinda like it when a character with a disability shows themselves to be a badass, future gohan and guts would probably be best buds

[@Eric6761]

I agree because in manga 17 said: "Not bad but just so you know, i was almost using my 50% last time" and in the anime 17 and 18 went like: "Okay, we need to take him down for good"

[@wattsify003]

I can't believe that so many people don't realize that in their first battle vegeta was clearly more powerful than goku. In his great ape form he crushed the already drained goku, but let's be honest, he really didn't even need to transform. Vegeta was in control of the fight even before this but let his rage get in the way. After rolling off goku's kamehameha beam he was still far and away in the lead as far as endurance goes. Only through a team effort, a lot of luck, and vegeta making a couple bad decisions, were our heros able to come out on top.…..

[@QaamansLand]

What does this have to do with this video?

[@wattsify003]

@@QaamansLand glad you ask… just thought this video was good but kind of point less for the ppl that “cried” or say that’s it’s sad that Vegeta “sacrifices” to buu or Goku doing the same with everyone else… let’s be real, death in DBZ is not emotional at all. So I decided to talk about better arguments. Death in Dragonball is as meaningless as jesus “sacrifice”. You “sacrifice” yourself to be resurrected, all chill and keep living with no repercussions what so ever.

[@perturbedbatman2009]

It’s particularly grueling knowing what Future Gohan’s life was like before the androids. Both versions of the character were kidnapped at 3 by their uncle Raditz who wanted to force Goku to eradicate the Earthlings, both were trained hard by Piccolo and had to face the Saiyans, and both had to go to Namek to revive Piccolo and the others. But for canon Gohan, his life got better afterwards in the grand scheme of things. Yeah, he still had to somewhat deal with the android threat (really just relying on Goku to take care of that) and then had to face off against Cell and had his father die because of his mistake, but the world was pretty peaceful for 7 years afterwards. He got to go to high school, fall in love, graduate and pursue a career as a scholar, and have a family. Future Gohan’s life only got worse after Namek, as his father died much earlier on, all his closest friends and Allies got killed, had to train for who knows how long to obtain Super Saiyan while most of the Earth got obliterated and he couldn’t do anything about it, had to become a mentor to the only other person who had any hope of beating the androids, and either went out sad (manga) or like a hero (anime). Outside of the first few years of his life which he definitely didn’t remember, his life was hell.

[@QaamansLand]

You forgot losing his arm. How would you edit that into your original comment?

[@Zoubida214]

The most depressing thing is that dragon ball story whithout the time travel is supposed to end with the death of all the z fighters and also trunks who is killed by cell, so all the saiyan are eradicated

[@OrangeProtagonist05]

R.I.P Future Gohan . . .

[@winterburden]

Qaaman here today! 🤩

[@lightyoshiman]

another problem with death in dragon ball is that none of the characters learn from their mistakes the dragon ball's erase it so they don't have to change but its not just the dragon balls whis also had a hand in some of these instances too like in resurrection of F after the battle goku and veget reflect on why they lost and said they could have did better if they worked together yet pushed that ideal out immediately I'm pretty sure if death actually stuck they'd have a different view on how they fought. In fact its because of the dragon ball's that the granola arc was so lame like so what if goku and vegeta died on planet cereal their loved one's just wish them back and its like nothing was gained or lost (didn't help that the antagonist's were going to die anyways regardless if they won or lost)

[@redjirachi1]

The future timeline is a stark reminder of how screwed everyone would be if death was permanent in this franchise

[@lawrencefitzgerald4744]

To me the saddest death was Vegeta's against Buu. It was the ultimate moment of character development, and in the end, it accomplished nothing.

[@nicechoicee]

this is 10 min of me trying not to cry for my boi

[@GouFPS]

the og future gohan is dead but in the otherworld, the gohan from future trunks's timeline sadly got erased. We don't know if zeno erased the OG timeline u7 or not.

[@angel_in-black]

Yea I miss these days. Now it feels like nothing is ever at stake(with the exception of the universe during the tournament of power arc). There were rules the dragon was restricted by and not everything could be undone. When everything works out for the protagonists, there’s no investment and where’s the fun in that? I’m one of those DBZ purists who say, they just don’t make DB like they used to!

[@mikederdrache3305]

Imagine future gohan meeting present gohan. Blue would cry seeing himself happy like that.

[@QaamansLand]

Blue?

[@mannyswift]

Future Gohan’s death was one of the saddest deaths in dragonball

[@KingSalaman]

How old was high school gohan compared to future adult gohan?

[@QaamansLand]

Depending on the anime vs manga it ranges between 16-18 ( so future Gohan is 5-7 years older )

[@KingSalaman]

@@QaamansLand thanks, he lived a short live :(

[@LuigiNico73offical]

17 literally spams vegeta 😭😭💀

[@QaamansLand]

Timestamp?

[@fullercrane1795]

Gohan was also using one arm when fighting Cell. If I recall I think Gohan blocked a shot that would of killed Vegeta and it broke his arm. Its weird Future Gohan dies. And kid Gohan that had trained with his father. Obliterated Cell. All he needed was a mentor.

[@piexpi4861]

this timeline could be a anime itself

[@jackking6191]

I might be wrong but didn't shenron say that you can only revive a person once??

[@lesterwilliamsjr649]

I wonder do Dragon Balls still work if they are in a different timeline then the 1 they are created in? What is stopping Trunks from going back in time and asking the Z Warriors from borrowing there Dragon Balls for 5 minutes.

[@TheBillhs]

easily,there's been more impactful deaths(like krillin) and argueably more emotional deaths(again krillin,anger...well for our characters i think he sucks)but future gohan's has to be the saddest for sure,he's my favorite character actually

[@christiansamaroo]

He also became the first character to die by kei spam