WHEN GENIUS FAILED (BY ROGER LOWENSTEIN)

[@h.i.sjoevall4213]

One of the most well researched and well produced economy-channels on youtube. Well done sir, keep em coming!

[@TheSwedishInvestor]

Thanks a ton H. Sjoevall for the support 🙌

[@samsonsoturian6013]

"Any calls you get on Sunday you're probably going to make money on." So true it made my chest hurt from laughing.

[@Inglesao]

"liquidity is often missing when it is needed the most." Great takeaway. Your channel is great, man.

[@Kaloyan.Dimitrov]

The name of the fund is so ironical. Being called 'Long-term capital management' and the same time using such a big leverage is funny.

[@tomlxyz]

It seems like whenever someone puts a description in their name they're exactly not that

[@csongorbaross4414]

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[@unluckygamer692]

Especially when you consider that they only managed capital for a few years

[@chasejones8302]

Like "Evergrande".

[@ghostnoodle9721]

@@tomlxyz Idk google seems pretty dead on as far as the amount of data they have, facebook is dead on, twitter is dead on, snapchat is dead on, tesla is ironic af, Microsoft is ironic af, amazon is dead on, so you kind of have a point, its either right on the money or just completely wrong lmao

[@stephenkohler3472]

That was the best Icarus scream I've ever heard

[@akilansundaram2181]

One of the best channels for sure on finance. Such interesting stories, good details, good research, and easy to understand takeaways. I am sure this will be a much bigger channel soon.

[@ThisNetherNomad]

if you really want to learn about stocks you should not watch yt videos. most of them (like this channel) promote stock picking and/or similar risky things. the only channel i can really recommend would be channels that promote diversified low cost indexfunds. thats because thats the only proven way to make money consistently. i would recommend ben felix.

[@thesnackbandit]

@@ThisNetherNomadThat’s pretty much what this channel recommends: Low cost ETFs, and for those with a larger risk appetite, some principles for value investing.

[@teewhy0700]

You are the epitome of what happens when genius prevails. Thank you once again for amazing content!

[@infiltr80r]

16:40 The term you're looking for is "correlation convergence". During market fat tail events, especially on the downside, asset managers are dealing with many customers withdrawing funds and thus forcing asset managers to sell without much discretion. This is why many long-only strategies are so risky. During normal markets, the correlations are helpful are seemingly rock solid but during a 2008 style crash, it disappears.

[@ecpgieicg]

15:38 Didn't know Scholz's supervisor published on the deviation of stock market daily movement away from normal. What an interesting coincidence when B-S eq (unless you modify it) assumes normal distribution.

[@AgustinGiannattasio]

Great summary and analysis. I strongly recommend reading the book to have a deeper take on how the people in the management team lived, how their minds worked and also how the final negotiations were carried out in the brink of the collapse.

[@markv559]

Interviewed at LTCM. They flew me to London for the interview. Cool place.

[@editpodgorica7952]

One of the best videos ever ... Thank you

[@michaelcalibri3620]

You don't lose everything when you move $$$ from a company to your private beyond LLC pocket. Executives in the 90s onward created a new type of leadership: I'm going to profit as this thing collapses and make sure it collapses kind.

[@channul4887]

24:53 you're 100% incorrect here. The world of finance learnt a lot from this "event". The most significant part of this story (which you didn't mention) is the fact that this was the first "too big to fail" financial bailout. It is widely recognised as an enabler for what happened in subsequent years. It showed the world of finance that they can gamble as much as they want and the taxpayer will save their asses. And that there will never be real consequences because "too bit to fail".

[@TheSwedishInvestor]

Haha, it's a good point. Perhaps I should have said "Wall Street learned something really valuable, while politicians didn't learn a thing". To be fair I think the Fed didn't put up any money here, it was the banks that did that.

[@channul4887]

@@TheSwedishInvestor yes but it's not all about money, it was more about the call to action and reassurance. To quote the "almighty" wikipedia (which quotes a reputable source)" "Some industry officials said that Federal Reserve Bank of New York involvement in the rescue, however benign, would encourage large financial institutions to assume more risk, in the belief that the Federal Reserve would intervene on their behalf in the event of trouble. Federal Reserve Bank of New York actions raised concerns among some market observers that it could create moral hazard since even though the Fed had not directly injected capital, its use of moral suasion to encourage creditor involvement emphasized its interest in supporting the financial system .[40]"

[@kaymish6178]

Another one of those times when people mistake leverage for genius.

[@jironghuang4895]

For negative skew strategies, use fix bets; do not compound the capital.

[@tryrshaughroad551]

Hi, overall I find the video is very well-made and researched. I've got a few nitpicks. 1) Many people leverage up on illiquid investments, chief of which being real estate. I think the takeaway should rather be that if you are leveraged up on illiquid bets make sure you have other sources of income or a cash pool with uncorrelated tail risks (ie, don't leverage up on your own company, don't leverage up your whole portfolio without a sufficiently sizeable and secure cash pool etc...). 2) Hedge funds are not necessarily market neutral, actually most of them are not. Arbitrage is also a necessary component of efficient markets. 3) Investing in assets with limited upside risk isn't always bad. That's the whole point of investing in high yield bonds and shorting options (negative gamma). You just need robust risk management and use another risk measure than volatility. Expected Shortfall (CVaR) or Maximum Draw-Down (MDD) are much better at capturing fat tails if you use high quality historical data. 4) The biggest issue with LTCM that is relatable to the average investor was that they assumed that the correlations of their positions were stable, when they converged to 1 in times of crisis. You talked about this, but I think it was too brief and your explanation with business owners was too vague in my opinion and too far from reality. I think it was a missed opportunity to talk about how "risk-off" events work and why safe-haven assets hedge such events.

[@whsap3831]

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[@LeonardoGrigio]

These guys trades (LTCM) were not that sophisticated (book). They lost track of their firms leverage. The Econ studs were disconnected from the trader/key guys at LTCM. A few things hit which were not even black swan events and their leverage went hyperbolic in one direction. I thought the book was outstanding.

[@heshyrosenberg651]

20:12 there is a mistake. If 1500×(B) is worth more than A, Then B must come down and A must come up to hold the 1500:1 ratio. The arbitrage opportunity is to sell 1500 B short and buy A. Once the prices converge, then you would take Your A and exchange for 1500 B and close your short position. You profit off B coming down and A appreciating.

[@NekonataVirino]

Great video - real shame about the 21 minute advert that youtube tried to serve up in the middle - what is wrong with them? I cast videos to my TVand it’s a pain to try to skip adds as the app often freezes. KZbin puzzles me but at least the Swedish investor knows what they are doing.

[@toromontana8290]

12:00 Sounds way too similar to the Colectiv club in Bucharest. Holy shit!

[@marinamedhat.life.fun.talking]

Yes learning is More important than teaching

[@marinamedhat.life.fun.talking]

@@Roseanderson. I think someone who watches the Swedish investor will not fall for this 😛😛😛😛

[@h.i.sjoevall4213]

The point made about decreasing marginal utility is such a good point btw. When the economy is on a high people probably leverage waaaay to much (even their homes) to gain just a few percent of unrealized gains in their savings portfolio.

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[@selvoselvo1]

20:14, if B stock is traded relatively higher than A stock, if they converge, shouldn't B be shorted and not A?

[@heshyrosenberg651]

Good catch I saw the same thing. If 1500×(B) is worth more than A, Then B must come down and A must come up to hold the 1500:1 ratio. The arbitrage opportunity is to sell 1500 B short and buy A. Once the prices converge, then you would take Your A and exchange for 1500 B and close your short position. You profit off B coming down and A appreciating.

[@norelfarjun3554]

People always forget that mathematics itself is just language. It will be accurate if you use it to accurately describe reality And it will be very inaccurate if you use it to describe reality incorrectly It all depends on your personal ability to understand in advance which model of reality is accurate enough for your needs

[@johnofmalta]

LTCM strategy is like vacuuming pennies on the highway. You may succeed for a good long while but you will meet a bloody end by a full load 18 wheel truck. Smart people with expensive education will tell you otherwise but all LTCM did was use regression plus leverage. JoM

[@audiwong9622]

Interesting and presented in such captivating manner. Best of all, so educational! Thanks!

[@TheSwedishInvestor]

Cheers 🌟

[@sir_crab2080]

how ironic it was called long term

[@seankinsey4619]

Outstanding presentation.

[@pascalhasenmaier3840]

Thank you for the video. I study for my Master's Degree (economics with an emphasis on finance and finance mathematics). We use Black Scholes in every finance and finance mathematics class. It's so frustrating to know that we assume something to be true which clearly is not and build every model on this assumption. I am toying with the idea of dropping out because I cannot stand it anymore.

[@leswhynin913]

I think it's important to consider black Scholes as only a method of estimating options value, and appreciate its underlying assumptions. It is a great piece of math on it's own, when it is misused is a problem.

[@DSmith-ix1xf]

Carry on! Your dissatisfaction is a sign from your mind that you can think of a better way. Good luck!

[@mulesttia]

Hey man, do not quit. You can use your masters to question the stablishment from within

[@MrKogline]

"It's so frustrating to know that we assume something to be true which clearly is not and build every model on this assumption. " Sounds like politics and the people that vote for them...

[@orbath]

Study Extreme Value Theory. It's by far our best tool. Drop everything else. Always remember that academics are most of the time clueless about what happens in practise.

[@TheJustinBarker]

Great video, thanks for the history lesson!

[@gopalsubramanian7180]

Another wonderful video ! hey Swedish investor its me again . How about a 10 part series video of the takeaways from the book poor charlies almanack. I am sure there are 1000's of jewels in there which will be worthwhile to learn

[@stockthesis8411]

Five things that influence the market according to Phil Fisher Psychology, government attitude towards investment and private enterprise, inflation and technology- It's no wonder it's so complex. Great video as usual!

[@jacobleung1652]

good job, very informative

[@ETS186]

8:23 it's SOUTHEAST asia. Not East Asia. East Asia is the onesabove it (China, Japan, South Korea, Hongkong, Taiwan, etc). Anyways, great video as always!

[@MrArnprdu]

Anyone have the source for the snippets of buffet? I'd like to listen to the whole talk...

[@borisborski1876]

I read the book twice. This is a great video, great explanation without over-complicating what happened, which is great for a moron like me 😊

[@GanpatiRam]

Thank you❤

[@tanmaychandra9434]

Love from India, brother.

[@Thmyris]

We have 2022 version for this video, FTX.

[@davidhack2409]

Amazing video! Learnt heaps thanks so much!

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[@rphb5870]

The question is not "can" because of course we can, the question is "do they" and the answer to that is NO, that is why we keep making the same mistakes over and over again.

[@respirariqueza]

Excellent video dude, thanks for the research and the great story-telling.

[@hemantkumarsaxena7101]

Kindly provide the summaries of different investing books like where is customer yachts & 100 to 1 in stock market etc

[@hemantkumarsaxena7101]

Did not get your point...Kindly Explain

[@alexbukk556]

Great video! Really good story telling :D

[@TerraFirmaFactoids]

Well put together video, thanks for posting!

[@SJK_the_Market_ExploReR]

-:Mr. Mr. Mr. Swedish Investor:- *_Book Summary RECOMMENDATION_* :- Where are the Customer's yatch? A famous 80 year old stock market book.

[@JS-jh4cy]

What the book title

[@tomonaut]

@@JS-jh4cy Where are the customer's yachts

[@SJK_the_Market_ExploReR]

@@tomonaut yeah

[@ivanpraisemuhwezi3176]

Thanks for the video

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[@gopalsubramanian7180]

Also consider Poor richards almanack ! the auto biography of ben franklin

[@5un5hine73]

read the book about them everyone called when genius failed. definitely worth the read.

[@Sachinrenjal]

Same thing was mentioned in liars poker book by Micheal Lewis

[@kostadintoshanov]

Excellent

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[@ciaoatutti11111111]

24:34, Jim Simon entered the chat... :-)

[@mohankumar87]

I liked the bar analogy and every minute of this video!

[@andreww.8262]

They probably would have been close to the mark with their probabilities if they weren't leveraged. I'm sure they would have corrected their models in 98 if not leveraged.

[@se6586]

Very interesting video, I had not heard of this firm before. Thanks for the video Swedish investor!!! Excellent as always

[@TheSwedishInvestor]

Cheers S E! 🙌 Glad you enjoyed it

[@simonsmashup]

23:00 we have a saying in cantonese: "Won a candy but lose a factory."

[@whsap3831]

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[@augiblutz2852]

As a public service, tell people hedge funds don't hedge.

[@ahmadshakhsheer9802]

Love this!

[@joshau2346]

this is so similar to the Credit Suisse buyout by UOB

[@DaThrawn]

How could you not cite Nassim Taleb here? :D

[@ZorakWars]

Great video. My favorite take-away is to make decisions with unlimited upside and limited downside. Don't play Russian Roulette with your finances or any part of life.

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[@rhythmandacoustics]

Bill Hwang: Amateurs.

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[@toromontana8290]

Above all else, LTCM just sounds like a bad business model. A company like Berkshire invests in real businesses that are undervalued and offer a compelling product/service. LTCM just plays financial shenanigans using leverage (which is pretty much the only way to go from billions to zero in such a short time span). It should have been an obvious avoid from day 1 or at least not something you put all your eggs into.

[@Khizionic]

Great hardwork i hope you are doing well in investing

[@przemekbary]

It looks like 28 former workers of LTCM also watched the video.

[@whsap3831]

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[@prakhargupta852]

Great work!!

[@thomas.02]

It’s dangerous to have a highly levered position in illiquid assets, so….. housing market?

[@whsap3831]

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[@twbishop]

see also, pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. proverbs 16:18

[@bonob0123]

prezi? nice look

[@kingeikaiwa]

If you can control your emotions, you can win in life. But, can you really 🤯

[@okkomp]

Haward university?

[@nile305]

That little icarus in the beginning of the vid 💀💀💀

[@mm0dk0ur]

Many thanks to the best investing channel on youtube, super video as usual. Is it possible that you also make summary of the " Investing for growth" for Terry Smith; "The five rules for stock investing" and "the little book that builds wealth", both for Pat Dorsey; "Richer,Wiser,Happier" for William Green

[@TheSwedishInvestor]

I'm flattered mm0dk0ur, I appreciate your support a ton 🌟 I think I might do a vote in the community tab soon to decide on the next book, where the suggestion with the most likes will get a video. I do like your suggestions, be sure to stay tuned for the community post. I will just finish up a few videos that I've had in mind for a while first 👍

[@toromontana8290]

LTCM - before Wall Street Bets was cool

[@CJinsoo]

Why bailout LTCM? Just encourages more risk taking that is transferred to others.

[@bishnuchourasiya128]

Choo Choo 🤣🤣🤣

[@zaclawson1571]

Great video!

[@griffinsutich1067]

Which banks didn't participate in the bailout of LTCM?? Lehman and Bear. Wall Street remembered.

[@TheSwedishInvestor]

I'm not sure about Lehman, didn't they participate? But Bear Stearns definitely, I think that could have been a takeaway from this saga too. Because it seems like the same thing was true for LTCM in a sense, they had created themselves a lot of semi-enemies in the way they behaved.

[@raulesteves5264]

Goes to show that safe investing is when you assume a zero sum game + edge.

[@bethisway]

😂😭😂😂😂 when he hits the sun

[@awaischudharychudhary4480]

Great video

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[@cieslik7564]

Nothing's changed since that time.

[@whsap3831]

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[@adastra3147]

Such a Talebian video ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ just a bit slow tbh

[@andykwok7992]

Exactly the same story for FTX falling

[@leonardmilcin7798]

As usual, overconfidence in thinking you understand where the market will move. You look at those nice graphs and the trend seems so obvious it just begs to leverage yourself to the limit. Every time this happens I have to remind myself to just stick to common boring stock because there is no way I can ever those short term palpitations, I can only ever try to understand long term success of the company.

[@dimdinio1552]

Super!!

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Is this this created in doodle, or? :)

[@sunnyhing91]

Great video. Hope one day you can make 5 takeaways from Trillions: How a Band of Wall Street Renegades Invented the Index Fund and Changed Finance Forever by Robin Wigglesworth

[@233lynx]

The capital management turned out to be not so long term...

[@coacherni]

NICE ONE!

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[@blackbaron0]

Perhaps one of the reasons these lessons were not learned for the Great Financial Crash is that LTCM was bailed out and not just allowed to crash and burn. If you say well there was no choice but to bail it out, there is your problem.

[@zblus]

Does Wall Street still have these faulty assumptions?

[@harmandhami]

NYC VIDEO...

[@ggara1377]

Love 💞 from India

[@bluegtturbo]

Surely Buffett wouldn't be so dumb as to offer 250 million for that white elephant?!

[@johnpanos2332]

another example of bean counters thinking too much . a major case of scotoma ??

[@EranM]

very similar to ARK invstmnt :>

[@throttlebrah]

Stranton vs LTCM vs FTX

[@CJinsoo]

“Long-Term” means short-term gains, long-term pains. Even the faustian bargain passed on a chance atLTCM.

[@se6586]

17:46 imagine the arrogance