When Greed Reigned Supreme | 1992 World Cup Semi-Final: South Africa v England - REACTION

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[@Fat_Paws]

I was 10 when this happened and it still made me mad. What a farce! You would think things changed but 2019 - "Who scored more boundaries?"

[@Xandermcdonald]

This incident started South Africa on the Chokers tag , which has haunted us ever since. We have not won a Cricket world cup ever despite being 1 of the top teams in world cricket. We have never progressed past a knockout game since.(first knock out game we won was in the 2015 world cup.)

[@enigma8281]

Hey SA please play the WT20 finals with us this year, we are no less chokers(India i.e) so that we can decide who's the bigger choker.

[@damonarchary1582]

@@enigma8281 bro sa could be strong this wc..but we have to get our selection right...sa have an underated bowling attack

[@berranari1]

Check out an extended highlights of this match. England only got to face 45 overs not because of rain but because S.Africa bowled their overs slowly. So England were punished by having their last 5 overs cut off with little warning. The whole game was a farce but it was fair that England won in the end, at the time I felt sorry for South Africa.

[@mrgoono9264]

I'm a 3hr drive from the matches in Melbourne but in this 1992 World Cup I was able to drive only 45 minutes to Lavington to watch Zimbabwe play England. My mate decided the best place to sit was with the English fans who had just formed a group called the "Balmy Army". Zimbabwe was bowled out for 134 and the match looked very one sided. At least I got to have a chat with the Zimbabwe keeper, Andy Flower, who was hanging around with the crowd. An announcement declared that because Pakistan had just defeated New Zealand that Australia would miss a spot in the finals. Although the majority of the crowd sighed, the Balmy Army started chanting "We're all going to the World Cup, you're not, you're not!". This had the effect of turning the majority of the rural Australian crowd into Zimbabwe fans which may have contributed to their stunning nine run victory, the first time Zimbabwe had ever beaten England in cricket. The presentation was in the middle with the English team being heckled. The look on "Beefy" Botham's face when someone yelled out "How do you expect to win the final if you just lost to the worst team in the tournament?". Botham looked like he wanted to hurt someone. I'm sure this presentation didn't get aired on TV. A week later Pakistan beat England in the 1992 World Cup final.

[@CricketforAmericans]

This is a funny and awesome story because you were there. How crazy they lost to Zimbabwe.

[@mrgoono9264]

@@CricketforAmericans Still got my ticket for the match which was signed by Andy Flower. It cost a whopping $16.

[@praveenpillay4329]

Sad but still remember the 92 world cup with all founding memory with the biggest legends of the game, the Biggest and the Best World till date

[@hamza3065]

You need to react to Pakistan's journey in the 1992 world cup. It was nothing short of a miracle. Reactions on worldcups periodically would be a good idea.

[@FaizanKhan2]

Absolutely and not only was 92 a world cup win, it was the world cup win that funded Pakistan's first free cancer hospital for the underprivilaged.

[@pokamane6105]

Rubbish.. 😂😂

[@pokamane6105]

Lucky thats all sums it up

[@der_imperial]

That was the dumbest rule I'd ever heard. I was shellshocked when i found this out.

[@WTBob2005]

The old rules were worse. It was based on run rate solely. There was a game that had Australia bat first, kept getting taken off for rain, and the innings was reduced to 38 overs. More rain, and finally West Indies we’re given the task of 108 runs off 18 overs before their innings commenced. Even in 1989, this was a complete doddle. www.espncricinfo.com/series/benson-hedges-world-series-1988-89-60890/australia-vs-west-indies-3rd-final-65450/full-scorecard

[@usamazahid3882]

Yeah the same thing happened during the 2019 World Cup and last year's T20 during the India/Pakistan match.

[@umairazfar]

You ought to see the Pak v New Zealand 1992 world cup semi final.... more specifically the Aqib Javed vs Mark Greatbatch tussle. You will see the brilliance of Aqib Javed and one phenominal delivery where the bowler completely outwitted the batsman. Such a beautiful delivery!

[@Shourav101]

South Africa in World Cups. Screwed by the rain rule in 1992. Chocked in 1999. Messed up D/L in 2003. Chocked in 2015.

[@chittaranjanshetty4546]

Hey Guys, There is a rule called 'Over Rate' Captain has to ensure that they have to bowl certain no. Of overs in an hour. Slow rate gets captained fined and even match banned. So the broadcaster argument is bit exaggerated. Teams cannot take their own time to bowl out their overs. Even today duckworth lewis is applied to end the game on time. Sure there is a buffer time extension for rain delays which was also provided in this game but beyond a certain time, Overs start getting reduced. The problem in this game was not broadcaster but the 'Rain Rule' which negates good bowling in first Innings

[@Henry-fd3et]

England should've bowled 7 or 8 no balls to even it up.

[@ajayv9039]

This was one of my suggestions sent to Nick... Thanks guys👍

[@jehanariyaratnam2874]

The first of many hilarious exits from world cups for South Africa..... After this they were knocked out by Lara in 1996 after Windies had just lost to Kenya (who don’t even make the World Cup these days), the infamous tie against aus in 99, the tie against SL in 2003 because they didn’t know what score they needed, got bowled out for 150 against aus in the 2007 semi final on an absolute road, knocked out by NZ in 2011 who weren’t even that good back then, then again by NZ in a game they should have easily won in 2015, to the last World Cup where they were just terrible throughout and one of the worst teams. A World Cup history to be proud of lol

[@robertrodrigues7319]

Nick, Gabe, you two are absolutely awsome! Thank you so much for this video, I was never aware of this sad sad incident . As I mentioned a few months ago to you two good gentlemen , ie Test Cricket is the ONLY REAL/TRUE CRICKET, this is why I don’t regard any form of one day cricket as cricket. Money is always behind corruption in any form of sport . I agree with you both!!! Great great comments by GABE at the end of this video. Salute

[@babarazamsucks]

Yeah this was all before the Duckworth-Lewis method and this made that method happen which I’m glad you guys know about.

[@allannortje6440]

Shoutout from South Africa! Huge Americana fan, whoooo!

[@berranari1]

I heard the end of an NFL game was not shown on TV because the channel went to the movie Heidi. I can't remember what teams it was that were playing, but there was a shocking ending that the TV missed out on. But you can't have the TV rule like in 1992 cricket world cup. By the way, I love Shirley Temple!

[@CricketforAmericans]

Yes. It’s called the Heidi game. 1968. Raiders and Jets. Two TDs in 9 seconds

[@sumanawasthi8908]

That's why DLS rule was made after this Debacle By ICC

[@sumanawasthi8908]

@ferzy09 yes exactly even if it doesn't make sense to us as a team supporter but it fair coz it's a math formula

[@sumanawasthi8908]

@silverrahul Yes n it's probably as fair as it could be

[@grahamkelly520]

One of my biggest collapses was when I had $100 on Greg Norman to win the US Masters and he led Nick Faldo by about 6 strokes. Never count the money till it's over. Cheers

[@phanirajsrinivasch8108]

South Africa during apartheid were mighter than Australia.. They used to have greats like .Graeme Pollock, Barry Richards, Mike Procter, Peter Pollock and used to demolish all rebel touring teams(unofficial teams touring SA usually consisted International cricketers)..

[@nikhilhembrom8952]

I mean before there exile they were no 1 team in test cricket so nobody knows how much great moments we missed in world cricket in 22 years

[@harshitdutta21]

If this rule was there in 2019 cricket world cup final then we would have been docked of the best match in cricket history.

[@Deuwl]

I remember this vividly. I was just a kid watching this live in Australia. It was really confusing. We couldn't understand why they just didn't play the original over and just play a bit longer. It was the semi final of the world cup. Most of the public weren't aware of this bs was because of the broadcaster had made the rules. We were confused and heartbroken for the South Africans. Finding what actually happened like you guys, I was so angry and ashamed to be Australian. It was the Australian broadcaster channel 9, a free to air channel. It wasn't a pay tv channel. The time was around 9.30 to 10pm when this match finished. It wasn't like they had any prime time type tv on after this match. The whole of the world was watching. This was a dark day for humanity. Thankfully, they changed the law to the Duckworth Lewis system which is a lot better but still to this day, I haven't figured it out but compared to this 22 of 1 ball bullshit. Yes, I think if the public knew what the actual deal was, there would've been a riot

[@gzeuskraiste]

The theory of Channel 9 cruelly crushing the dreams of South Africa and cricket fans world-wide makes for a great story, and Cricket Raaz does a great job of producing an entertaining video on that basis. The only problem is he has no evidence for this theory whatsoever. Don't forget, Kerry Packer, the creator of World Series Cricket and essentially the godfather of modern ODI cricket, still owned Channel 9 in 1992, and still had enough influence to call station management on the phone and demand programming changes.

[@Shourav101]

No evidence? Did you hear the commentators in the video?

[@gzeuskraiste]

@@Shourav101 Did you? Where did he reference any of his assertions about Channel 9's influence? Any quotes from anyone at Channel 9? Can this theory be independently verified anywhere? How do you or anyone else know he didn't invent this theory out of thin air, or (more likely) take a tangentially relevant fact and extrapolate it into the wild conspiracy theory we hear in the video?

[@chittaranjanshetty4546]

Agreed, people are forgetting there is a rule called slow over rate where captain gets fined and even banned for not completing their quota of overs in the alloted time. Its easy to say broadcasters should have extended the game but what about the legal issues they could face for not broadcasting shows that they were supposed to broadcast post game. Remember it wasn't the era of hour long pre-game/ post-match discussions While the rain rule was clearly ridiculous, this broadcaster blame is so exaggerated

[@PavanKumar-fy6fq]

Just google it bro. You can find evidence that Channel Nine enforced the time limit rule, and wanted the game to end by 10.10 pm.

[@chittaranjanshetty4546]

@@PavanKumar-fy6fq I am trying to find the links, could not find any article regarding this channel 9 issue. Please share if you could.

[@nishantsrivastava9697]

I heard about the South African story in 1992 and yes I didn't know about this ludicrousness but 1992 south African team was simply inspirational.

[@LWUncleSam]

One of the reasons why this never happens nowadays in the US is because of the Heidi Game: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Game This was an AFL game between the Oakland Raiders and the New York Jets, which the Raiders won 43-32 by scoring 2 touchdowns in the final minute. However, in order to broadcast the film Heidi, the broadcasters stopped broadcasting the game on the East Coast when the Jets were in the lead, leading to a lot of upset fans who found out the final score of the game! Its not like they stopped the game - just how it was broadcast.

[@sinkalita]

his narration ❤️

[@biggzsmith1634]

I can't think why that was to compromise for rain delays and time constraints. And I the the DLS was bad. BTW West Indies are one up in the T20Is against SA

[@biggzsmith1634]

That Falcons Pats game made me swear off all ATL teams as my secondary option. Went to sleep in the 3rd quarter happy and woke up at 2 am for work and let's just say that day didn't start off with a vibrant smile.

[@reflectasahuman9209]

React to 1992 World cup Final, It is the first final of world cup history who played in field lights and color kits with white ball.....

[@rongt859]

I don't know what the comment about greed had to do with it South Africa only bowled 45 overs in the the time so the only got 45 overs to chase the runs the rain stuffed them up , the rules for a shortened game was not made up by the TV channel , that was the cricket board agreed to by the teams competing This is why the Duckworth Lewis system was bought in

[@nepalyesterday]

I love how Gabe smiles when he gets sad

[@stephenrichards2063]

Sorry guys, but this is a complete waste of time. You may need to do some research before watching or even considering watching these type of videos

[@RolandjHearn]

I'm not 100% certain that he is correct on all details. Channel 9 certainly was a powerful influence in the game at the time. In fact it could be argued that no one did as much to move cricket into the modern era as Channel 9. However, I can't verify from memory the call. I know that overrates and teams going slow had been a big issue and still is. You will often hear a call for radical rules to deal with the issue and I don't know that this was not part of the issue. It was the wrong call, but I am not convinced the only factor was the voice of channel 9. However, the rain rule was utterly ridiculous. They tried many different variations and it is what led to the Duckford Lewis method which is impossible to work out for anyone person but it is an attempt to balance out all of the factors that are impacted by rain in a game.

[@RolandjHearn]

@silverrahul I should have stipulated, "without a computer."

[@RolandjHearn]

@silverrahul thanks for that - to be honest after trying to understand it a couple of times I have accepted the idea that it is too difficult to work out as an individual. I'm happy to hear that it is not impossible for some, but then I failed my second stats course at uni so that might have something to do with my pessimism.

[@gzeuskraiste]

@silverrahul using the resource table is relatively easy as you say, deriving that table and understanding how/why, that does require a bit more mathematical background

[@gzeuskraiste]

@silverrahul yeah, that's what I'm saying. People are confusing the level of difficulty in using DLS with the level of difficulty in understanding it.

[@RolandjHearn]

@silverrahul I'm going to have another look at it, thanks heaps.

[@jadenmoses3277]

South Africa 160 for 6, west Indies 161 for 2, 2nd t20 tomorrow

[@sounav4484]

Best World Cup Jerseys till date (Good ol' 90's same theme jerseys).

[@layyah0905]

One should factor in that SA players ,during isolation,were mainly part time players working full time jobs.Yet the players always kept the flame alive that international cricket would return. Strangely Rugby Union was still played at international level until 1981 when the Springboks toured New Zealand. In the early 1970s ,two South African provincial cricket teams staged a walk off at Newlands and released a statement that cricket should be inclusive of all racial groups. At the time it was an incredibly brave action given the high handed apartheid government attitudes. Cricket did become more open,nominally,but it was the entrenched apartheid system that was the limiting factor to an international acceptance. The players at the time pleaded a double standard whereby international countries would import and export with SA ,yet cricketers weren't allowed to do their job. Later on post apartheid older players acknowledged that it was unfair to have expected re inclusion to international cricket given the apartheid situation. So that's a little background to that post Basil D'Olievera spurned isolation period.

[@WTBob2005]

They weren’t part time at all. Ever heard of the Rebel Tours ? They were very well paid as were their opponents, and the reality was that during the middle 80’s up until de-isolation, South Africa had arguably the highest average crowds and most profitable cricket tours in the world.

[@layyah0905]

@@WTBob2005 they were mostly .. My father's business sponsored Barry Richards and Mike Procter and a few pros..Clive Rice, Eddie Barlow, Ken Mcewan, Peter Kirsten, Paddy Clift and a few others played County cricket. But there were others we sponsored like Henry Fotheringham.. A few Natal players worked for us in the offseason. Graeme Pollock worked a full time job in the Eastern Cape initislly Vincent Van der Bijl worked as a teacher all his career and later for Wiggins Teape and a season at Middlesex. Brian McMillan opened a busienss during his playing career to boost his income and Pat Syncox has worked a long time as an estate agent. Other guys like the Titch Smith, Neville Daniels, Kenny Cooper all worked full time as did Daryl Bestall, Rob Bently, Jimmy Cook worked full time jobs until a few seasons in County cricket. Most cricketers were part timers.

[@asimsingh]

South Africa chased down 434 runs in ODI .. that too against australia . You guys should check that out.

[@konair77]

I remember this match. Didn't understand the rules at the time as a 15 year old but now I do and it pisses me off!

[@nevilleapple629]

This was a cool story but not accurate as far as I remember. It was the first World Series style World Cup after the Kerry Packer professional revolution and the rain rule was changed in an attempt to make it more fair then the previous rule. The end of play had to be at ten pm because of the lights curfew. Anyway cool story but rubbish.

[@jackpott2226]

You were correct the local council would not allow the lights to be on after a certain time.

[@syedakbarakbar2303]

Watch.1999.semifinal.s.africa.astralia.s.africa.is.always.unlukky.in.semi.f

[@ramram-yb9kd]

There are more rules in cricket which are dumbest to the core but still we loves the game. Btw wonderful reaction friends appreciate it. Love the post reaction thoughts you were delivered.

[@educationworld9699]

No i don't think cricketing rules are dumbest if you know any dumbest rules can you tell me also rain rule and time restriction rules were not cricketing rules

[@satheeshsomasundaram8090]

Mainly in cricket always have rules issue everytime

[@saminda]

can someone reply me the original link please

[@vikashb74]

Did you guys watch the windies vs south Africa t20 today?

[@peeyushsharma1066]

And eventually by the sheer luck of destiny and the way things turned out in that world cup,our neighbours won that world cup 😂😂... That's the reason they start praying and mentioning their god everytime a match is played. 😂😂

[@thilankajayamal6439]

Hello there! I would like to make you attraction to last over of IPL 2019 finals. That's marvellous.. Please make a video with that. Cheers!

[@ritugupta275]

Hello everyone and I have been watching cricket Raaz English since the starting and they sometimes might be a little of point but the way he narrates it is beautiful and it is completely a very trustworthy channel. @CFA fam let us not get in heated arguements in the comments and give some love to Nick and Gabe for creating these videos and keeping us happy in these extremely challenging times. Also special shoutout to Cricket Raaz English , the way that narrates is excellent and just love that channel because of the way the narration is done.

[@CricketforAmericans]

Appreciate this. Thanks man.

[@gzeuskraiste]

Great narrator and producer, yes, trustworthy, no.

[@ritugupta275]

@@CricketforAmericans No problem , man , I also wanted to ask whether you guys will be streaming some SA vs WI. I reckon that it is available for you guys on ESPNplus and willow. Please do stream some wi vs sa

[@jadenmoses3277]

West Indies vs south Africa, west Indies won by 8 wickets

[@jadenmoses3277]

@Puneet Kumar west Indies winning 5 nail

[@yuvaraj2131]

@@jadenmoses3277 haha.

[@thecactasman2324]

Cool vid

[@vickypillai9682]

Herschelle Gibbs 175

[@shaheempashua6924]

Hi guys all the way from South Africa please react to Jaques Kallis the greatest all rounder to ever play the game batting bowling and fielding top class scored hundreds all over the world took wickets and catches all over the world please I beg search the man and be amazed👊❤️

[@AyushKumar-vm2cg]

Please react to India Vs Australia World cup final 2003!!!🙏🙏🥺🥺 It's available on KZbin.

[@nikhilreddy8550]

2011 wc win was great but India was expected to win and were favorites. But in 2003 Aussies were invincible. I would have loved to watch India win that one.

[@AyushKumar-vm2cg]

@@nikhilreddy8550 I know buddy.

[@Ravindersingh-my1dy]

What is there to react..India got whooped in that match.Don't bring back bad memories

[@jehanariyaratnam2874]

@@Ravindersingh-my1dy a brilliant century by Ricky Ponting

[@harshkumarf4379]

i knew about 1 ball 22 runs but i thought it was because of some other rule ,,,, i never thought it was broadcaster doing such petty things and killing cricket

[@WTBob2005]

I’m so disappointed that this video keeps getting discussed around the place. It has so many glaring inaccuracies and omissions that it makes it unwatchable. 1. There is no way known that Channel 9 (the host broadcaster) were responsible for the calculations that led to the infamous 22 runs off 1 ball. 2. Channel 9 did not make the rules regarding the timing of the innings - the ICC did. Channel 9 may have suggested them, but the acceptance, implementation and enforcing of them was done by the ICC. 3. The video does not explain, at all, how Channel 9 benefitted financially from having the timing rules in place, let alone how greed played a part in those decisions being made. 4. It is very obvious from the video, that the supposed guilty party Channel 9, had no idea themselves what the new equation was. They were informed by the South African management what the equation was (22 off 7) and they only realised it was 22 off 1 when it was shown on the video screen at the ground. 5. There has never been anyone, anywhere, that can corroborate the story that Channel 9 “forced” the game to be completed that night and the reserve day not to be used. 6. The decision to ensure the game finished according to the rules would’ve been made by the umpires and the match referee, likewise a decision to use a reserve day. Not a broadcaster. 7. Despite repeated claims in the video, not once is it ever made clear how the host broadcaster financially benefitted from the decisions made regarding the revised target, or the non-use of a reserve day. 8. Despite repeated claims in the video about how unfair the whole process was, not once, ever, has there been an investigation by the ICC about anything untoward happening at all. 9. There has never been, not once, any complaint at all from either South Africa, England or the ICC about the undue influence and control Channel 9 had over proceedings, let alone their motives for doing so. 10. The rules regarding innings ending were set out and strictly enforced throughout the entire World Cup. In previous games, both England and South Africa had been benefitted from these rules, particularly South Africa who had a game against Pakistan basically handed to them after rain intervened. 11. The rain rule at the time of the 1992 World Cup heavily favoured teams batting first. South Africa had the choice after winning the toss. They bowled first despite the risks in doing so. 12. Not a single mention was made during the video of South Africa’s tactics in ensuring England didn’t face a full 50 overs when they bowled first. England only faced 45, losing 5 overs of productive batting at the death. 13. Not a single mention how South Africa then had the advantage of pacing their innings correctly knowing from the outset they were only getting 45 overs, not 50. 14. Not a single mention was made during the video of how the umpires stayed on the field long after it was fair for England to continue in the rain, knowing what was likely to occur, and did in fact occur. 15. It is yet another video, in a long long line, that has very thinly veiled racism, hatred and vitriol unfairly targeted at Australia, Australian culture and Australian cricket by Indian favoured parties.

[@Shourav101]

Lmao. You guys hosted the world cup for the first time and mucked it up for that sweet moolah. Except it and move on. I mean it did happen over 30 years ago.

[@andysteen]

@@eightyseven3113 ..I may be wrong but I'm sure this system had been used prior to the 1992 series....It obviously has faults..as do they all, but I have never seen anywhere that states it was invented by TV corporations...I thought the system had been first used in 1989 in a tri series in Australia and simply superseded the Average run rate system

[@PavanKumar-fy6fq]

I searched in Google and found evidence that Channel Nine did intentionally prevent the game from going past 10.10 pm.

[@andysteen]

@@PavanKumar-fy6fq fair enough Pavan...I can't honestly find anything....but I recall in Englands group games in the tournament..england played SA and I believe Englands innings was curtailed by 9 overs...and South Africas score was only cut by 11...SA had scored 236 in 50 overs....England had to get 226 in 41 Overs....luckily I think it was Fairbrother who stepped up with a quick 50 or 60..So yea whatever the rule was not fit for purpose

[@WTBob2005]

@@Shourav101 Who paid who and how ? Explain exactly how “Greed” and financial gain was the determining factor. Explain how Channel 9 insisted the game end the way it did, and the time it did, otherwise they lose money.

[@aviarora6983]

React to breakfast with champions saurav ganguly

[@vikasbhargava5653]

This was really embarrassing for Cricket as a sport.

[@gznvi4726]

Why not react on 1992 final?

[@abeylaale3700]

Yay CFA nation 😁

[@gingertoast6216]

The narrator is describing the whole thing in a tone like story-telling to school children. The first thing he says while describing apartheid, "they COULDN'T marry white people" ... the author of the video saying like it is the first essential thing for non-whites.

[@Neelinmact]

He is not saying that it was just one of those apartheid rules ,,, he also mentioned voting rules and segregation

[@manishsuthar4002]

Aussies : 😬🤫

[@abeylaale3700]

CFA nation

[@abhijeetlove123]

The Narrator is Former Indian Wicket Keeper Saba Karim..

[@CricketforAmericans]

Really?

[@NikhilChaudhariimbevda]

Video starts post 7:40 thank me later..

[@praveenpillay4329]

Ooh on the lighter side... even if SA would have won the semis, even God couldn't have stopped them from choking..... 😁😁😁😁😁

[@nithina2356]

All those dumb rules get applied england always wins... hummmm se.ell fish everywhere

[@raveeshannelaka8931]

Watch an react to Muralitharan video on the same channel.