When Heroes Become Historical Figures

[@DrFranklynAnderson]

Daily reminder: Superman is older than Lord of the Rings.

[@patrickbateman512]

Not that crazy bro

[@marko-gj1uj]

But not The Hobbit?

[@tooper321]

@@marko-gj1uj The Phantom (1936) is older than The Hobbit (1937)

[@thesmilyguyguy9799]

HOLY SHIT

[@joezar33]

​@@tooper321The Golden Bat

[@MrPikaGammer]

1919 Joker was speculated to be part of the Red Hood Squad(?) who were gas attack specialists during WWI in Giant Panda King's Batman universe.

[@sas36265]

One storyline that did an interesting take on the concepts you've been discussing here and in that "When heroes were real" video was the comic Wanted, by Mark Millar. The story itself was a little lackluster for me, but it centered around the intriguing idea that superheroes used to be real, and a regular part of life until the year 1986, when supervillains from around the world banded together and defeated the heroes in a final war that lasted three months. They then erased everyone's memories of these heroes and destroyed as much evidence of them as they could, transforming a world that was once filled with caped crusaders and constant wonder into the one we know now, with the villains running society from the shadows. While most heroes were killed, some of them had their powers taken away and their memories altered, being brainwashed into believing they were merely actors who played superheroes. Superman became Christopher Reeve, Batman became Adam West, Wonder Woman became Linda Carter. It is later revealed in sequels to this comic that not all records of the way the world used to be were destroyed, with there being an autobiographical account from a former US president that was erased from history along with the heroes, and a hidden batcave the villains missed, where one of the dark knight's proteges has been in hiding for decades. It brings up a fascinating idea of coming across hidden records and pieces of evidence that don't match up with the history you think you know, and I hope this concept is explored further in later media. As mindbending as this idea is, it would make for a great mockumentary.

[@gimmeyourrights8292]

Wonder Woman is seen as a feminist icon now, but back in my day she was a rather controversial figure. It didn't matter that her heart was in the right place, or that the crime rate was dramatically lowered everytime she stepped foot in her satin tights, fighting for our rights, in the ol' red, white, and blue because people couldn't look past her outfit. I mean looking back, it was relatively jarring to find yourself in the midst of an armed robbery and this dame with star spangled Short-Shorts shows up deflecting bullets and whatnot but I didn't care if Santa Claus himself showed up, I was just glad ANYONE came.

[@Superlad9494]

And she didn't even start wearing short-shorts until 1973. Prior to that she had either cullottes/skorts from 1941-1950 and from 1950-1968 she wore bicycling shorts. Then we had the weird era where she wasn't Wonder Woman, she was White Canary.

[@gimmeyourrights8292]

@@Superlad9494 I might've been born in the short-shorts era, I've heard of the White Canary phase but I used to think that was made up. I remember when what I thought was another sidekick came to town, I forgot what her name was Artemisia, or something Greek but they actually came to blows believe it or not.

[@Superlad9494]

@@gimmeyourrights8292 Artemis Grace...her Jason Todd. Cassie's Tim, Yara's kinda Damian-ish splitting with Lizzie in flash-forwards...and Donna is well Grayson. The O'Niell run? If only it were made up or retconned as actually being Black Canary having to take the Diana Prince identity because of something happening with Diana.

[@icarusgaming6269]

Well it's not just the outfit. Wonder Woman's villains often created sexually explicit scenarios that mirrored William Marston's innovations in sexual welfare and psychology. The culture of prudism and nuclear families during your time deemed these lessons sexually deviant and unfit for any audience, not even adults. In modern hookup culture Marston's theories have pretty much entirely supplanted Freud, and in a strange twist of fate we partially have Wonder Woman to thank for this

[@eagle162]

​@@icarusgaming6269that honestly kind of makes me wish Wonder woman never existed.

[@ReynardIsTrying]

I actually own Gotham: 1919-1939 myself! It’s an amazing book but kinda expensive! Giant Panda King also has a series of Star Wars magazines and they are working on more DC books along with Ghostbusters and TMNT books. They are such an amazing company!

[@GenesisOrb]

0:01 - 0:09 This is how my room feels for time to time.

[@RakaiThwei]

Thank you for adding the Barbara Walters TMNT Interview footage!

[@williamcrowe2576]

I subscribed to the Bat Feed channel long ago, and I'm always on the watch for new chapters of Batman 1919-1939.

[@TRN49]

Next Avengers Mentioned? Also Great Video, Batman 1919-1939 Seems Pretty Interesting Might Give A Look

[@ryanmatthews3609]

Godzilla was on radio before the movie came out.

[@Thefellowmemeguy]

Another great example of this is a spinoff of the analog horror series the monument mythos called the Nixonverse Throughout a couple of episodes we see images of a flying man with a cape in different historical places and events. The most important moments being when we see these individuals interfere during WW2(specifically D-Day) and the Korean War.

[@danielmontero8200]

I loved your previous video on the images that made superheroes feel like they existed in our world. Thank you for making this one as well.

[@WarpingFist]

Thank you for watching

[@danielmontero8200]

​@@WarpingFistNo problem, your videos are entertaining to watch.

[@ryancialone3045]

Honestly it would be a very big adjustment if superheroes, super science, and magic existed for decades but then some events made it all go away and unless it was a truly evil and destructive force people would feel the poorer for it. Like life isn’t as fantastical and anything seems a little less possible. It’s like finding a real magical unicorn but it’s dead. And all your left with what could have been possible

[@dragon_ninja_2186]

Seeing more coverage of the Gotham 1919 - 1939 book is always a win

[@comixlover5741]

I believe superheroes should be in inclusively in different historical universes . They should I reflect our world but they should be non touchable to us because they aren’t us and it makes no sense for them to be in our world . That’s why I loved when the X Men movie said sometime in the future never giving us a date of time and Tim Burton’s Batman’s absurd reality .

[@SuperFan02]

I’m confused by the wording. But I believe you were going somewhere with this.

[@GREG_Khar-NÜ-Metalhead2000]

​@@SuperFan02he meant it shouldnt be realistic. 9/11,vietnam war,covid etc

[@tristanversluis]

Why inclusively? That would make the genre even more deprived of creativity

[@Mr.Maguro]

in the 2099 Marvel universe, Thor has become a god worshipped by religion that has surpassed even christianity in popularity. After Miguel becomes his time period's Spider-Man, followers of Thor see him as a messiah for the return of Thor and the heroic age.

[@arcadeassassin7176]

That was always one of the coolest pieces of worldbuilding in the 2099 comics.

[@nathanblevins158]

Nice to see you know about the attack on titan analog horror series. I honestly felt like I was the only one know about that series.

[@austinreed7343]

TMNT, admittedly, made some gestures towards "Here There Were Superheroes" in the original comics. The 2003 disregarded the undertones of the twilight of the superheroes in favor of having the "Justice Force" as an active group, if only because the Mutanimals were off-limits due to Laird. Sadly, nothing past 2003 have explored the concept of humanoid superheroes in the TMNT world aside from the non-powered Nobody & a few magic-users. The "Here There Were Superheroes" of TMNT would be nice to explore, actually.

[@WalkerLuiger-e3m]

I watched videos about Batman 1919 and they were good .

[@emarino9805]

Amazing video!!! Always happy to see someone using myuus music!

[@ghostwarrior3878]

And ... The thumbnail was from the Gotham 1919 to 1939 book

[@JD_1776]

ive had fun learning the "history of the court of owls" in this book series via clips on yt. Love it

[@theroaster2562]

Mr Glass.... You !?

[@J__T]

I've been watching golden age cinema epics as well as older hero films; films like Leslie Howard's Scarlet Pimpernel or 'Pimpernel' Smith and Douglas Fairbanks Sr.'s and Basil Rathbone starring Mark of Zorro and Robin Hood (both in two different scores). I recommend all of these clearly but I also watched the old serials such as 1943/1949 Batmen, 1948/1950 Superman, and 1940s Green Hornet. The one I really want to point out is 1942's Spy Smasher - a hero never really utilized like in his own serial. This WWII hero spy has only been brought back in cameos or short scenes but never as one of the main characters which is real shame given his nature. To continue my viewing of the less viewed heroes, I watched the 1990s Flash and now I really want DC to bring back Nightshade who only appeared in two episodes. He may seem to be just a dark skinned Green Hornet but there's actually more to him that separates him from this possible inspiration. Nightshade is a 1960s vigilante instead of a faux crime lord of the 1940s and he specifically patrols the poorer, rougher areas that the police wouldn't normally go into. He's not rich but he's no slacker; at his beginning, he had automotive knowledge that helped him build his own vigilante car, and at his end he became a criminal psychologist with a penchant for chemistry born from younger days. He's armed with sleeping darts, his love interest is a local club's main singer rather than his secretary, and probably most of all his biggest villain is a crime leader who transferred his consciousness into TVs to be omnipresent. And Nightshade figures out who Flash is which is rather funny given the '90s Flash actually cares about keeping his ID a secret. Next on my list of vestiges from the past is the Black Pirate; an actually technicolored film from 1926 that apparently started the whole pirate craze!

[@talkingshounen14]

Would you want to live in a world where heroes from Marvel and DC existed in real life?

[@RakaiThwei]

@talkingshounen14 No, because so would their villains. You would CONSTANTLY have World Shattering events, Crisis events, Civil Wars, etc.

[@WarpingFist]

Imagine Superman picking up your car to throw at Doomsday. Nah man, in this economy? keep me out of these worlds.

[@cantthinkofaname5046]

Depends if the villains are a package deal, cause if not I can imagine the world with superheroes not being any worse than our own

[@GREG_Khar-NÜ-Metalhead2000]

I want to live REAL early-mid 00s universe but Superman exist

[@friedfrog5447]

Absolutely

[@kingdon7795]

If we go by the logic of parallel universes then all comic book characters exist as real individuals in some parallel universe alongside you and me.

[@Teenpool2009]

Basically The Incredibles

[@thegodoflean7354]

You should cover the Incredibles universe and the Lionsgate/Marvel movies.

[@notliked42210]

So wait, is giant panda king an actual company that made a book or is it something batfeed came up with?

[@WarpingFist]

I was a bit confused too at first but batfeed didn’t create it. He’s simply adapting the content in the book

[@notliked42210]

@@WarpingFist I'm buying that book then

[@prohunter49]

I actlove these videos. Please make more

[@bryanlabady9825]

Could you do a video on those vintage Attack on Titan archival footage? I know they’re just examples but they look cool asf

[@Ashton1954b]

Oh boy you will love my series

[@thesmilyguyguy9799]

: O LOVE IT

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

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