When is Art Style an EXCUSE for Bad Art? || SPEEDPAINT + COMMENTARY

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[@mayuravirus6134]

If someone can copyright art style Disney would actually sue people left and right like they always does art style can't be copyrighted

[@Almonds24768]

I am sue everyone who gay

[@n908qd7]

oh lord, imagine.

[@NYK1845]

Oh shit then rip samdoesart

[@IApologiseForQuitting.213]

Rip all budsforbuddies clones.

[@-themightymittens-]

If Disney copyrighted art style I'd be so dead lol

[@rubyred6608760]

I think the problem with art style theft is that people are too obsessed with originality. This mentality of unoriginal = bad is perpetuated alot in the community, and I think it sets an incredibly unrealistic standard for people. It is almost impossible to have a completely “original” artstyle, simply because of how many artists there are. No matter how original you think you are, there’s probably someone out there has a similar style. Not everyone needs an “original” style. OH LORD THE LIKES

[@akiarasenpai8978]

Well said. There's always references and inspiration that are used. Nothing's truly "original". There's always going to be someone out there with a similar idea or style.

[@InnocentMage64]

Personally Ive seen a lot of non artists discount well made art just because it wasn't original or new and different, and thus less than and bad. It's a shame to see and hear honestly, that some people can't see past a specific thing to the effort and care underneath it.

[@autumnsartstudio]

@A𒈙𒐫A𒈙𒐫A𒈙𒐫𒈙𒐫A𒈙A𒈙I𒈙A𒈙T𒈙O𒈙Y𒈙O𒈙M𒈙A𒈙R I've been told by family to start doing landscaping because locally that's what is gonna get me noticed... I don't want to be another Bob Ross or Thomas Kinkade. I've been raised with cartoons and animes and the thought of doing landscapes all the time (because if you do landscapes and people on the same social media page the algorithm apparently doesn't like when you mix art mediums and styles) I wouldn't be doing art anymore. Heck I'm at that point now in asking myself...whats the point? We're at the point in technology where a computer can compute an entire image for a commission for free in minutes that would take me a week. What's the point in pursuing art as a career now?

[@HeyDudeYouSuck]

When I was a kid, I would always try and have my own original style because I don't want people to say like "Oh, this art style looks like it's from this artist! You cannot steal their art style! Oh, and I also think you're stealing this art even though you made this. You better not steal their art style or else I'd accuse you of stealing from said artist!" type of stuff. But I also try and copy and take some references from other artist's art style like Disney or like a 19th century cartoon art style. Now, I am just having my own original style while also taking influence from my favourite artists. I think it's ok if you don't have an original style, as long as you put your own style and other artist's styles and making something that looks unique. Edit: Just take inspiration and references from other artists then (in my own experience) become more better at art. I do it all the time.

[@huntsman9316]

True but I prefer to have an art style that's recognizable to me and isn't shared with thousands of people. I don't like hearing “wow this looks exactly like [famous artist]’s style.” I'm ok sharing it with a few, but not a thousand. That's why I stay away from the anime style.

[@thealicornartist34]

Art styles also change over time. If someone shouts the "it's just my style" it may be true, at least in that moment of time. I've gone through a couple different style changes in my life, and changed my style as I grew up to better suit what made my brain happy.

[@Asra_..]

THIS!!! I changed so many brushes,way of shading,rendering and even apps before finding what was best for me. One day I'll probably just go "what if I drew eyes differently this time?" Art is about experimenting.

[@thealicornartist34]

@@Asra_.. yes! I used to try out different styles ALL THE TIME, sometimes mimicing others, figuring out what I liked about the styles I thought were cool. The shading in my webcomic for instance, in the first 100 pages, is wildly varying, because I was figuring out my shading style, and now I have something that pleases me. Also! Absolutely try drawing eyes differently. Even if just for fun, you never know what may happen

[@jeggzzzz]

I lke how you worded it that way..."what made my brain happy" cos I can relate to this.

[@dominic_19077]

The moment someone goes “I don’t like how you draw noses” is when I tell them “Then it’s a good thing you don’t have to use my noses in your own art, isn’t it?” On that note: if you’re not sure if someone is doing something on purpose or not, you can always ask them. (Either way, unless someone ASKS for help with something, I don’t offer critique or critisisms in the first place.) Oh, and I also want to say that if someone doesn’t WANT to fix their mistakes, that’s also valid. Not everyone has to strive to be a great artist. They are absolutely welcome to draw whatever they want as long as it pleases them. Some people just enjoy doodling, and that’s perfectly fine.

[@musingsofmessa]

That reminds me of the time someone on Discord said something hateful about one of my artworks. Something along the lines of, "For the amount of time spent on it, it doesn't look that great." To which, the person didn't know how much time was taken for the artwork. If I remember correctly, it was around 7 hours. A lot of people gave him sh*t for it because what he said went against the server's rules. They didn't have to stand up for me, but they did, which helped me feel a little better. :3

[@cherrina44.]

@@musingsofmessa how awful; - im sorry for what happend but glad it had a nice ending :'3 Everybody has different time with their art, no need to shame others just because it took a lot in a piece, we are All still learning, in time you will be quicker since your body and mind will remember details that you will be able to manage in seconds hehe but for now Enjoy your time and your art, they are valid♥ (ofcourse being humble is very important)

[@cherrina44.]

Very true on that last part, not everybody wants to be a pro at something like art, But I see this would be for the people who are problematic. A lot of people are envious and egocentric who goes around the art community to bash on other's art but when it comes to Their own art they go as ''is just My Style!'' Sometimes people ask for criticism of their piece expecting other people to say ''Wow! amazing!'' but when they actually get pointed out on a detail these go ahead with ''is just my style'' and so on ^^;

[@macroman91]

​@@musingsofmessa That's actually a very helpful comment - if you're spending an inordinate amount of time on something, perhaps you're doing it wrong? You might be able to achieve better with a different technique, better art supplies, etc...

[@musingsofmessa]

@@macroman91 For me, the amount of time on an artwork doesn't matter. As long as we have fun making our art, you know? :3 My usual time with an artwork can be between 2 and a half to 7 hours (it varies with each artwork, too - not all pieces take the same amount of time every time, if that makes sense), but I feel it just depends on my mood and workflow that day. :D

[@n908qd7]

If you don’t want to improve, then don’t. That’s perfectly fine. If you want to improve, then improve. That’s perfectly fine. Just do what you want. I’m not stopping you. Have fun, do whatever. Idc. Just don’t bother me pls 😶

[@musingsofmessa]

For me, I started out drawing realism back in art class. And when I got into digital art almost 2 years ago, I've been experimenting with my art style (as my style is inconsistent). Experimenting aside, I have some experience in drawing realism, anime, and semi-realism. Some sketches turn out better than others, and all artists have bad art days sometimes. In the end, it just takes patience (no matter how frustrated you get). :D Now I'm onto simple but stylized "chibi" characters. Which fits the kawaii art style aesthetic I'm incorporating into my art. :3

[@n908qd7]

That’s really cool!

[@charles-rl7op]

I think your artwork looks really cool keep on going ☺️

[@bibule]

There’s when you draw something “inaccurately” on purpose not because of style, but because of some kind of physical condition/deformity that the person or character you’re drawing has. I have a character who is microcephalic, if I went to draw her, which I will at a moment, of course I’m going to draw her head smaller and disproportionate. That doesn’t mean I don’t know my anatomy.

[@insertunoroginalnamehere6189]

I think it's fine if you are actually intentionally making the anatomy unhinged. Like, if you want to make a really weird painting to express yourself or you just want to make a really weird looking artstyle, it can still be good in certain cases

[@meli_lemon_real]

i always wonder what makes art good in my mind. like objectively. sometimes i look at art and go “wow, thats perfect” and other times “that could use improvement.” i think the 2 biggest factors of what makes art “good” is general anatomy knowledge and color/shading knowledge, at least in my opinion. art doesnt have to be realistic to be good, but the proportions should make sense. intentions matter

[@jewelxiat]

There’s an artist I used to know that had HORRIBLE grasp on anatomy. I thought it was atrociously bad. I think, part of the objective part of “good art” may come from the Uncanny Valley factor in a human’s brain, since we are hard-wired to recognize artificial traits. Of course I never criticized them, because who am I to give unsolicited advice, but I definitely recorded it in my head because if that was art I deemed “bad art,” then I definitely wouldn’t want to make the same mistakes. The rest is mostly preference, I think. So “objective” is a fine line to make LOL

[@meli_lemon_real]

@@jewelxiat exactly!!!! you worded it so much better than i ever could thank you

[@Nevri.]

I never had issue with stylization. It often enhances drawings and makes them more interesting to look at, but I was always assuming that even when doing so, you still need keep the proportions and proper anatomy correct. Then I got my mind blown when in 1 video artist explained how when you draw different poses etc. you often want to bend anatomy a bit to make them look better, because drawing them "correctly" would feel more stiff and less dynamic.

[@sarielsworldella1723]

In my opinion, all that matters, if you the artist likes it. If the artist likes it, then it's good. Sure, maybe in the future they won't like it ( like how I really should update my icon, it's atrocious...) but if they like it now, let them enjoy and be proud of what they made! It's all subjective, a hobby is something you do to have FUN, NOT to labour or stress over. Have fun, draw the dumbest things, and the weirdest proportions, we all start somewhere and go whichever. Don't stress!

[@insertunoroginalnamehere6189]

I agree! Though if people specifically ask for constructive criticism from others, because they want to see where they can improve, that's valid as well.

[@QwerpOS]

Lots and lots of kids use the whole "its my style" thing as an excuse on places such as Pinterest, most notably on anatomy tricks and corrections. Often, it just comes off as if they know that their art isn't anatomically accurate, are insecure about it, and then lash out at anyone or anything that dare remind them of that fact, which is sad but whatever. The issue, however, that I've seen, is that a lot of these kids use that as an excuse to go and harass the people offering the advice, which is immature. The thing is, all art is subjective and can be drawn however a person pleases. However, if they were content with their art, then they wouldn't feel the need to even comment on those pins or posts, and until they realise this, they won't be able to grow as artists... or people, really. This is more likely a product of people basing too much of their self-worth on how others view their art or that of others, so you end up with this problem.

[@n908qd7]

This is so true. I had to convince myself my art isn’t as good as I think it is in order to progress. It’s so weird how that works.

[@HeyDudeYouSuck]

This is actually true to me. I've said to people that "This is my art style, stupid!" in frustration. Then when I look back at myself and my old drawings, yeah, I was indeed too stupid. My art style changed from a cringy anime drawing by a 10 year old (yes, I was 10 at the time) into a 19th century semi-realism kind of art style (though I do mix it with some anime influences). Though I never harass people for saying that my art or art style sucks because that's wrong. Jesus would've probably lightning striked me if I did.

[@miau5878]

omg i thought i was the only one that sees "it depends on ur art stlye tbh" on literally any piece of helpful advice that even stylized artstyles do

[@giovannajooj]

@@miau5878 every single time i see a tutorial on pinterest this happens

[@beephobeea6050]

exactly! i love ur op:)

[@rollerskating_salmon_that_3935]

I don’t understand why people get so riled up about “art style theft”, it’s just a similar way of drawing and when I see artists that have a similar style to me I get so happy because I draw what I want to see and other people also draw it too

[@beephobeea6050]

Pretty sure people don't like art theft because they spent quite a while articulating their style. But it's always a lopsided argument because they probably copied someone else's something in the process.

[@droppedcombofiend2707]

There's many reason people get riled up. People get riled up about art style theft because someone is benefitting off of countless hours of another person's work. A striking and unique art style is hard to develop. Also, if people start stealing your style, it devalues your work, as now it's harder for you to standout. It also takes away the possibility of commissions. If there's another artist using your style, they can very easily get commissions that would have been yours otherwise. Especially if they're intentionally undercutting you. There's also a massive difference between having similar styles due to liking an element of a person's style and incorporating it into yours, and full on style theft. For example, let's say you like the way an artist does eyes, so you starting doing them the same. The way you do things like noses, lips, proportions, rendering, and color choice is all different still. So you both still have individual styles, even if there are similar parts. But let's say you steal everything. You use the same proportions, features, same brushes, same rendering, same color choices. It's nearly indistinguishable from another person's style. That's art style theft. That's one of the reasons AI is such a problem for so many people. It's stealing styles of professional artists, but can be made significantly cheaper, and by anyone who puts in the hour or so it takes to learn how to type in the right words. Effectively stealing the work that artists would have gotten otherwise.

[@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012]

@@droppedcombofiend2707 you can't steal an art style

[@user-hy9yj2hz3b]

@@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012 you can

[@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012]

@@user-hy9yj2hz3b no. no you can't

[@TheDaphinator]

If you ask me, I think (when it comes to beginner artists) instead of excusing it with "It's just my style" the excuse should be "I'm still learning" or "I'm still developing my style." I think there is a tiny bit of arrogance sometimes with the "just my style" claims, like "look, I know what I'm doing. You just don't know how to appreciate it." Not saying that is the case for everyone by any means, and often experienced artists do know what they are doing when they break the rules. Yet that is why it works for them: they know the rules before they break them. I am a beginner artist and I do not even know if I have an art style or not. I am still learning (literally practicing while watching this video with my "How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way" book; a great resource) and as much as my art has been improving, it is not the style I want to make yet. So if someone critiques my art politely, I am inclined to say I am still learning/developing because I know I have a long long way to go, a lot of fundamentals to learn, and am certainly inexperienced. There are some really great stylized pieces that break the rules of what is typically considered correct, yet rarely do they come from artists who have no idea what they are doing. I do not like Picasso's cubism and kookier works either, they do not appeal to me at all. However, he did not just start by doing all of that, he first learned the fundamentals and realism and was real darn good at it, and then used what he learned to flip everything on its head with his geometric style. I think more often than not, one can tell when someone is intentionally breaking the rules like Picasso or does not know the rules like beginner artists. When it comes to beginner artists who do not care about improvement and just draw because they want to, they can do whatever (though I expect their excuse to be "I just draw for fun" rather than anything to do with style). Yet beginner artists who want to improve and want to find their style and want to know what they are doing, I think they should go with the learning excuse. It is humbler, for lack of a better term, and I am not just saying it to say it, because like I said that is the excuse I use while I am still learning (not that you ever stop of course).

[@beephobeea6050]

this is so true

[@TheZinklezonk]

Ima use the I’m developing my art style excuse now :D

[@MaAlGon3]

My rule of thumb is to appreciate what I like and nothing more unless they specifically ask for critique. Even then, give them the short version and only elaborate if they ask for clarification. Also, I like the idea of "Does it really hurt anyone for the artist to draw in a certain way?".

[@bloomygirl315]

I always think of One Piece for this argument. Creepy eyes, horrible anatomy, ugly af characters - but it's clearly his style. That artist also has shown improvement in their art over time; not in anatomy, but in lineart, detail, outfits, backgrounds ect. Eiichiro Oda has obvious skill that he's honed through years and years of hard work. It's also helpful to think of a 'style' the way people think of handwriting. Every little kid has a learning curve with this. It's clunky, you can tell they aren't confident about the different shapes and strokes yet, maybe they press really hard or too softly; they're clearly still learning. But as they get older, they develop their own handwriting. My big issue comes when new artists start hiding behind 'it's just my style' and using that phrase as a shield. You can't improve if you're hiding.

[@apocalypseofplush]

In the wise words of Solar Sands, “But art styles, just like handwriting, cAN STILL SUCK.”

[@FrogKanna]

There isn’t really anything that makes art good. Art itself is subjective, countless people prefer shape language, others just prefer aesthetically pleasing colors or line art. Either way, there is no rules in art, therefore no matter what you do, someone will dislike your art and that’s okay. With this information, there are no real rules within what’s good, but just because there are no rules it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t listen to critique. Being able to take in critique is important as an artist, especially if you want to improve. Getting better at anatomy, stylization and so on will likely show improvement in your art, hopefully improvements you like. You don’t need to listen to all critique either, just what you feel hits you the hardest or just ignore it all try your way forward. To put it shortly: if you like your art, then that’s great, but don’t ignore critique just because your happy as you are since it might still be fun or helpful to try and or listen to critique.

[@cydney1545]

A person won't (or at least will heavily resist) grow and change unless they themselves discover it. usually, if mistakes are pointed out before the person makes the realization themselves, they will push further against it. this can be true for not just art but anything. you can try all you want to tell someone they are messing up but they will never want to change what they are doing wrong until they make the realization themselves and want to change. there are a few exceptions for this, but usually people don't like being told they are wrong.

[@Leafu2825]

I totally agree with this video. Some art styles I cannot stand yet I don’t believe that they are not valid-styles. I’m, shure people cannot stand my super irritating style in I’m shure that some think that my style is 'invalid' or 'objectively wrong. And they are entitled to that opinion however they should none harass or hurt others because of it. I don’t harass people who draw in a CN or nickelodeon style just because I don't like it. I’m not going to harass them for it.

[@spycenrice8108]

There’s a blurry line here. On one hand, there’s good advice that genuinely helps dynamically in art. On the other, I saw a tip today on how to draw eyes that said anime eyes were wrong, and realistic eyes were right. In that situation, YOUD be inclined to say,”that’s an art style” would you not? Plenty of artists I know who have said this love actual tips that help with their personal work, but the tips that call aspects of their work that are intentional bad, they get upset. An art style is something people work hard on, and the issue with people who have these “tips” that only apply to realism artists and put down more cartoon artists is that they are making the art community toxic, and who gets blamed? Beginner artists who just want to have a fun time.

[@RattataPrincess2007]

I am glad you pointed this out. Being an artist myself, I know it takes time to develop an art style and that it is almost impossible to have a fully "original" art style. And art style theft (which is really art style emulation) isn't really a problem.

[@MrDuckDrawz]

i was worried once i saw thw tittle but decided to give it a listen and honestly its so refreshing to hear this side of the argument cus its true, why would we harp on beginner artists who just want to peacefully enjoy their hobby

[@odiyellow567]

Imo having a consistent and appealing art style as well as not making mistakes is over-rated. It's good for marketing sure, but it misses the point of art. There's aesthetic value in "ugly" things, and there's a point in changing style as people are always changing themselves. Art doesn't have to be perfect to convey emotions or to tell a story. There's more to art than just looking good And being annoyed by beginners saying "it's just my style" may be just a reflection of one's own unresolved issues. Like, who cares? It's not like the world would crumble down because of some beginner artists committing the sin of making mistakes

[@mrpickles-hb6zx]

Over rated if you suck at it, I'm tryna get good not (ok)

[@arimarshmelloow]

genuinly, i dont know why people NEED to know what the difference is between style and bad art - its not MY art, so why should I be judging it? If they want to call it their style then that's their right. I suppose it would be difference if you are an art teacher (and/or similar) but if you are just an artist on the internet then I dont think anyone of us should go around judging whether people have what WE would personally consider a style or if their art is just "bad" etc. just my opinion!

[@kaileychambers6969]

I appreciate how you brought up younger artist using style as an excuse because of feedback that they didn't ask for. I was definitely one of those people. I was guilty of some awful anatomy, and I drew starting with the head so everything was bobbleheads. A guy I knew who was trying to start an art club kept trying to criticize my art, even though I made it clear I didn't want feedback at that time. He had a very realistic style and that wasn't my interest for drawing personally. I was super into animation and obsessed with SVTFOE at the time so I kept saying it was just a cartoony art style. He had some genuine points, but because I wasn't ready to put the effort in to improve, it just made me feel bad about my art. My art was one of the only things I had at the time, being my stand in therapy at my worst depressive low, and the only thing people ever said nice things about, so I wasn't willing to change it. A year later, after having gone my own way and gotten to a slightly better place, with a more supportive environment I decided I was ready to try and improve. I learned a bit about anatomy and it helped so much. It's been a journey and my anatomy is still admittedly pretty off sometimes, but I can look back and say it's way better. As soon as I improved I hated everything about my bobblehead art, now when I improve I think wow those eyes were too big, but I'm still proud of the overall look. I think it's good to offer criticism to newer artist, but only if they want to improve. You never know what someone is going through, and I wouldn't want to be the reason that someone feels bad about their art, or even worse stop doing what they love because it isn't up to my standards.

[@skootergirl22]

I've got two art styles: one is the one on my PFP and the other is my more realistic style that I don't use often

[@EmptyFeet]

"bad art" doesn't need to be justified or excused. "it's my style" should be taken as "that's just how I draw right now and I'm not interested in crit from people I don't know", which is a perfectly understandable sentiment. the value of art you make for yourself isn't defined by your Knowledge Of The Fundamentals or even a desire to improve. its value is in being made at all.

[@S0REZ]

I've seen lots refuse to draw other body types or skin tones, ect, because "it doesn't suit my art style!" I've also seen bad anatomy and they kept using the excuse "just my Art Style" though anime and cartoons don't have accurate anatomy the characters still has a somewhat believable anatomy. It's honestly so annoying specially when they refuse to draw something they don't find attractive and use the excuse "Just my art style"

[@purupumpkin]

I don’t really like when people say you need to learn fundamentals before stylising because I feel like we are always working fundamentals and should constantly be studying them and returning to them throughout our journey it’s not a one and done thing. It’s more like you understand the basics stylise, then you go back to your fundamentals again adjust etc. I learned anatomy when I was a teen and I still look at it every day to improve my knowledge and realism to base my art on. I guess what I’m trying to say is you don’t need to know anatomy like da Vinci to stylise your work just the basics you can go back and continue to study anatomy as you learn but that isn’t always 100% clear as the definition of fundementals seems to shift between users

[@Temperans]

As proof of your last statement: I always assumed "fundamental" to be "the basic building blocks" not "knowing perfect anatomy". Too many people get caught on being perfect that they don't realize you just have to be good enough.

[@purupumpkin]

@@Temperans I think the confusion comes because the topics covered in fundamentals are also life long studies so what one would consider as “good enough” can be incredibly vague and is decided by each person. For me I define good enough as the skills needed for me to get started with basic design and creative work and I am happy to continue learning as I go but let me tell you my many art teachers have had very different opinions on what is good enough when it comes to fundamentals which has led to me becoming very burned out when trying to adhere to their ways of doing things 😂 For the longest time in my life I thought I needed to master realism and anatomy before I could draw cute girls in sparkly dresses and I felt guilty every time I’d do that instead, it just drained all of my passion for art tbh. I find I learn best when alternating what I am passionate about and the more tedious work that helps me improve.

[@Temperans]

@@purupumpkin I mean everyone is different. Art teachers will pass down what they know and use, but its up to each person to determine if they actually need any of that. I always felt "good enough" was the point where you can make something that clearly needs more work, but that otherwise looks exactly how you wanted. In my case I can make a specific type of tree good enough, but don't ask me to draw more than a stick figure.

[@mrpickles-hb6zx]

You can't do good art without learning its fundamentals, no one says u can't mix how u learn it

[@LikaLaruku]

A famous Japanese mangaka named Minami Ozaki, who had a pretty distinct art style in the 80s & 90s that set her apart from others, had the habit of not only drawing absolutely massive hands that could wrap around one's head, but making women look masculine in a time & place it was looked down upon, & making teenagers look like they were in their late 20s/early 30s. BUT.... Her artistic talent could not be denied. In her case it really was just her style.

[@irissu02]

For me it’s important if someone is « teaching » other for them to be honest if they’re making mistakes or not. Then also if they do work for commissions and they promote their art with the best of the best but the commission they end up giving has some « mistakes » that can obviously be seen they should be able to change if the commissioners wants to because they’re paying for it.

[@kurapikakurta1997]

Personally, there’s really a fine line. I don’t think it should be up to the artist to make the art style comment, or at least interpret it as such. If one person critiques your eyes, but many others are able to see why you did it, then congratulations, you can make the style comment. I do a lot of things that get “called out” when it’s on purpose (“their torso is half the size of the legs” “arms aren’t meant to be that thick” ect) and I get how infuriating it can be, but don’t just randomly shout it out as defence.

[@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012]

if someone comments that i draw vegeta's calves too big i will make the art style comment because i'm drawing a fictional alien monkey

[@lizziescott]

I stand by the opinion that there is NO REASON to believe any art style isn't a valid style. There is NO REASON to even care. Just let artist do what they want. As long as what they're doing isn't literally illegal, literally why even have this conversation?

[@lizziescott]

Like why do you even care if SOMEONE ELSE is making a mistake in their art? How does that hurt YOU, how does it effect YOUR life? It doesn't. So shut up and just leave them be.

[@BuckBlaziken]

Claiming bad art is an art style has become a blanket for insecurity. I would know, I was someone who used the term to shield myself from criticism. It stems from someone insecure about how their art looks, and people afraid of having their art called bad.

[@k3nny111]

Rule of thumb: If you're not asked for feedback, don't give it. People should be able to upload pieces with technical errors without some asshole in the comments going, "actschually, you should have done such and such." Because, guess what, *everyone* is making technical errors in their art. All this achieves is to prevent people from sharing their work, or to make them feel bad.

[@LikaLaruku]

When I was a kid, there was a popular artist named Keith Haring who got famous for his stick figure graffiti. He got T-shirts & Nickelodeon bumpers. I'm a big fan of abstract art myself: Cubism, Orphism, Purism, Supermatism. You can construct a human shape out of nothing but aesthetically placed basic shapes.

[@mickeyspeer5670]

I dont comment on youtube much, but been runnin into your videos here and there. Seems like im always gonna be like “aw man, she gonna be closed minded this time”. Though i dont always agree, i leave appreciating you more. Way i see it, art is as good as the individual creator views it. Its away of expression regardless of how its viewed through the masses. If you see flaws in your work then by all means, work to fix it. But if your proud then stay proud. Feels like the art community is starting to look the same, which isnt bad. Just dont want those that step out of the norm to be buried or discouraged from their art. My opinion anyways.

[@linttastic]

If someone says "that's my art style" because they don't want criticisms, then they shouldn't be spreading criticisms either or make unsolicited "tutorials" of poor anatomy because that just shows they're delusional about their own work. I've seen someone say this all the time to excuse poor unlearned anatomy and then proceeds to criticize professional concept art for anatomy? I think most of the time it's just an ego thing and not actually anything to do with the person "not being ready" to get criticized. You're posting on the internet; it's an open forum- these things WILL happen. Most people ignore those comments or respond well to critiques while others get really defensive and I think that says more on the type of "artist" that person is. Like, if you LIKE your "technically wrong" style, then who cares about the comments saying it's wrong?

[@jeggzzzz]

Flocked here cos i was looking for insight. Had a couple people this week talk about the "flaws" in my work. That they thought it was "amateurish" or "just decent". One was a potential client and another was a good friend who just didn't agree with me on a topic and my art became the outlet of that topic. So, just trying to get a fresh perspective out here for that kind of situation, cos it started to gnaw at me after a bit. I can say that people pay for my work, so it's what really allows me to cling onto the idea that I'm doing well, but ofc I do want to overcome the dunning-kreuger effect slowly as I focus on a niche (style) I came to like. So this is quite insightful. Thank you.

[@jonathanlochridge9462]

Well, I think to an extent, focusing on some aspects of the fundamentals over others, or strategically breaking what is normal can be interesting in a style. The Intention element is pretty appealing opinion. Consistency is a pretty clear sign of intention. From a certain perspective. Deviating from a consistent pattern without an intentional reason could be considered a mistake. Hands twice as big as a characters head is obviously not anatomically correct. But, if it serves a purpose when it comes to the feeling of a work then that is valuable. Overall, style in some respects is shaped by the limitations you have when it comes to a work. "Knowing how something" is important. Although, in my experience there is a difference between that and being able to execute that how effectively or timely. I do think that choosing to do something in an easier way consistently rather than opting to go for something more accurate is a legitimate choice. However, it only really makes sense if the focus of the artist is somewhere else. The believably argument is fairly value-able though. If the baseline of realism is skewed enough, it makes it to where you have to be even more weird if you want something to stand out as weird. Overall, I think the core thing to judge a style on is emotion and feeling. If you analyze the elements of a style, ideally they should work towards a particular tone. I take a mostly functional view of art. A "bad style" is one that doesn't achieve it's goals very well. Even something made to be intentionally ugly can still be valuable as art particularly if that ugliness shows some sort of meaning. To use a musical analogy. A little bit of discord can make music more spicy and vibrant. Like in Jazz. Although, if your baseline is too weird then the art might not have very much of an appeal. From this perspective, a "mistake" is something that happens in a work that takes away from what it was trying to achieve. Fundamentally it is subjective. But, even in the subjective, there is often a conceptual area and framework than can cut through the subjectivity. But, in many cases it is more like a sliding scale with many types of ingredients. I think the "top down" idea of style makes sense. Although, I also think that working "bottom up" can be sensible as well. But, only if done with intention. In this case, a good form of "bottom-up" style, would be to look at a single small type of issue and try to think of a bunch of different ways you could do it. And try to think about the effect of all those options. But, ultimately without some top down element. All you really get is experimentation. But, having a high-level framework(Fundamentals) helps significantly when it comes to small scale experimentation. Since then you can try to vary the small things according to more factors. Rather than just drawing a bunch of possible noses from just profile and head-on. You could use a lot more angles when you experiment and find more impactful options that still work together. If you know realistic proportions, amounts of muscle mass, and shapes. Then that opens up new ways to be exaggerated. Theoretically, you could experiment with proportions to establish characters while keeping the rest semi-realistic.

[@void_theghost]

Since art is subjective, I think if the artist is proud of it, then it's never an excuse

[@Kanalit5]

"But sir- the hands are a little too big" "But it's my artstyle " "Understandable "

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

FINALLY. I've been trying to figure out where to find your webcomic for weeks now.

[@weevil8025]

Tbh I dont care about art styles, if a young artist wants to say their bad anatomy etc. is their art style just let them. It's part of developing as an artist. No need to put someone down over it.

[@TheGreenPoncle]

Critiquing isn't putting someone down. Yea, anyone can draw whatever and however they want, but if one publicly shares their works for attention or recognition, you can't get mad at people if they don't find it appealing

[@halloweeninmay6810]

​​@@TheGreenPoncle Yea, i agree; honestly the time criticism is putting someone down is when is unwanted/unwarranted. But at the same time you can't get mad at the artist if you don't like their art style. Just because someone's art is public doesn't mean criticism is justified

[@B.O.Xproject]

Funny enough when I first started drawing I didn't really study anatomy but I also didn't really mimic my style from something else ...it just kinda popped onto the paper

[@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena]

There is no such thing as theft of a style honestly as it changes over time and a lot of people's overlap with each other. But the moment art style can be copied written then theft of a style can exist, and i do agree with other the people in the comments saying those that say theft of a style exists often are so obsessed with originality they lack their own However in order to find your own style you have to find yourself first as in do it in a way that pleases you FIRST and FOREMOST and again what is pleasing to you changes over time. Hell my first self portrait when i first did it i thought looked great then when i look back a year or few later i see it and think it looks like shit as preferences changes over time thus your own personal style will continue to evolve till the day you die

[@st4rry0npawzz]

As long as the anatomy is correct, everything looks normal, it’s just their style. Otherwise they’re either a beginner or abstract artist.

[@robinfox4440]

It comes down to skill, really. Beginners are obsessed with style, especially online. It's used as a shield from criticism all the time. Most of the time, most people saying "it's my style" are not skilled or experienced enough to even have a style.

[@breannathompson9094]

Imo these are people that have never taken an art class or even studied what goes into "real" art. You are supposed to learn real proportions and THEN warp those to your style, not the opposite lol.

[@RACOONAFIED]

Been to art school Nowhere they said this, you can start with an very cartoony style and only after a year or two learn anatomy (like me) art school simply gives you the advanced methods so people who haven't gone through that wouldn't know that

[@kittendragon6720]

I think an artstyle is also just something that really inspired you as a kid growing up that you just internalize those features in the art, one of my friends watches and loves the cartoon-network type shows so her art very much resembles that with her hard shadows and rounder people, vs myself having grown up in a family that loves anime type shows my style very much resembles anime with the leaner body types and sharper features. Heh sorry i just find this type of thing fascinating and thought I would share it.

[@ShelbyLikesStuff]

12:40 with the point “You need to learn the fundamentals.” I find it untrue in my experience, like yes I have studied very little so I kind of understand anatomy but generally I’m not interested in learning the fundamentals yet, at least the fundamentals of anatomy

[@zinzolin14]

One thing I've come across lately was somebody who was resisting advice and critique because they felt it would "hurt their style", and this was during my time in art school in a classroom environment. To what extent should we allow and accept critique then, however personal we may feel about it?

[@scollaceyuri]

theres no such thing as bad art in my eyes

[@jordanrichardson7794]

Except racist art

[@jordanrichardson2367]

Racist and pedophilic art

[@Melody-kc1tg]

I think we can all agree that "bad art" is subjective and that everyone should be able to do art and have fun without stressing about every little detail.

[@rh1nestone3yes]

Personally, I think that hair and eyes and head shapes are all art styles, and length of limbs TO AN EXTENT. I'm well aware I draw legs a bit longer than normal, but I keep thighs and lower legs to the same size as my torsos and hands smaller than the heads.

[@halloweeninmay6810]

Yea same, I make legs longer and make lower torsos and legs thicker than it should be

[@rh1nestone3yes]

@@halloweeninmay6810 I have a hard time drawing guys, sadly, but I'm getting better after watching Callimara and Love2DrawManga's videos. (I have a pretty anime-ish style)

[@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012]

i tend to keep thighs and calves around the same size when i draw saiyans. i don't like drawing small calves that much

[@rh1nestone3yes]

@@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012 What is saiyan?

[@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012]

@@rh1nestone3yes goku and vegeta

[@blackcitadel9]

In my experience, "It's just my style" is always an excuse by someone insecure about their technical skill. I don't know if that's ALWAYS true, but for me thus far it has.

[@YouNeedJesusx]

Its true lolll

[@Adhius]

Watching your videos always cheer me up and make me reflect on many topics I didn't put much thought into. Can't wait for the next one!

[@aceryguyy]

as sum1 who does art,i actually think my artstyle isnt pretty but like my past self said "im js gonna draw for fun" i dont have any goals currently but i wanna try learning + im not usually into realism since im terrible at it and for the ppl who does realism,nice 👍

[@SpineBones]

If someone draws hands weird in one piece, but not in another, the context of that peice is also relevant. They could be doing it on purpose to create a sense of wrongness or a dream like quality

[@thealicornartist34]

I'm so ready for this

[@hosuloml]

i first got into art because of my obsession with the anime toilet bound hanako kun and i rlly loved its unique artstyle, so my own artstyle was heavily influenced by it. later on it evolved into a more typical anime style and then also picked up some cartoon influences but these days i think its a mix of anime/manhwa/semi realistic(?) styles along with the tbhk style occasionally. not everything has to be original and thats ok!!

[@nikson3720]

While I truly believe unsolicited critique is absolutely rude and deserves no attention whatsoever, I also think it's truly important to learn from an experience like that. Truth be told, it has only happened to me once over my 9+ years of drawing, but it hurt a lot since it came from a "friend" and strangers irl. What it taught me was distinguishing what was style, and what was considered realistic//correct; what I actually want to achieve in my art, and what was considered beautiful by the masses. I'd never used the "art style argument" upon anyone before this. If I chose to ignore what happened completely, I wouldn't have understood myself better. Repeatedly being told that your style looks weird and wrong, humbles you and makes you reflect. Be careful though, as it's a double edged sword here. Don't let their negativity affect you and please them, but never stop learning either. It's a non-stop process of learning.

[@mrpickles-hb6zx]

You're contradicting yourself, ignore critique but learn from it? That makes no sense, don't be a baby

[@mk-aka-morgan8386]

Not me realizing how tiny I drew my characters hands when you started talking about the hands example 🙊🙊🙊

[@s0me_Weirdo]

2:55 there are no mistakes. Only happy accidents

[@Melody-kc1tg]

You dropped this 👑

[@lokasen9417]

Ooooh I'm not sure about using Picasso as a reference for artistic style when the dude's inspiration came from abusing people. :/

[@pristina4628]

Idk,for me is so hard draw hands and nose from profile so I just cut them or draw habds with 4 fingers.Is easier for me draw like that and doesn't makes me to feel so bad about myself.I know,I should be more realistic but I want draw cuz I enjoyed and not that it must be perfect.Is not realistic but is mine^^

[@beephobeea6050]

I started out with very basic cartoony, and then found anime. I thought that "because it's my style," referencing anything other than anime was obsolete, and I shouldn't practice anything other than anime. I've definately improved since then, less anime, more detail with realism woven in, though I don't know what you would call it(probably still defined as anime). Looking back, I think a lot of people who said "it's just my style" fall under a category like mine. They are dead set on a certain style and don't want/feel the need to improve, because they're already good enough because their style works for them. They might feel inclined to think that they are good enough,* aware they lack practice while still saying these things, because they don't know what* to practice. Critiquing them in any way might trigger the "my style" catchphrase. I say, if they want to improve, critique them(not overboard, but LTK that something's off), but if they don't want to improve(which is okay) then don't critique.

[@xenon_l_mckeeth]

I think the most basic point of art is to express something intentionally. That's all. I invest some time into studying the fundamentals from anatomy to color theory, simply because I feel that the knowledge is helpful to just have, and I would have only things to gain just by watching a few videos and stuff. Even though I keep improving my work consciously, I mostly draw for fun or to cope with things, and I genuinely enjoy the process of drawing or creating something that is my very own.

[@Suited_Nat]

I mean- I’m a growing artist, so I’ve had a bunch of different styles. And even to myself- I don’t feel like the best of an artist but I’m getting there. If anything I say “it’s jus my style” as a joke to that ngl lol

[@Gelugladius]

I forget where I heard the saying before, but I've really taken to the definition of style as a solution to a problem. By its nature, visual art requires the artist to abstract certain details because it's impossible to portray things exactly as they are in life. Even photographs have to sacrifice some element of realism in order to portray a three-dimensional object onto a two-dimensional surface. If the artist can provide an explanation for a certain quirk of their drawings, then it's not a mistake. Like you said, intention is the key.

[@Kumquat2290]

I think "its just my style" is the new response because, as far as I know, no one wants unasked for critique. Before art communities blew up, giving unwanted critique was something you'd receive warnings for on art boards. Yes, we can see they're making errors, but is it our place to point it out? I think that it *is* their style at that exact moment, and it will continue to evolve. And there's no such thing as stealing an art style. 😂

[@akaihanayume]

my art style been the same since 2012 my art was ass from 2012 through 2017 . now , if u search my name on google you can see all the progress ive done in 13 years. i also started drawing anime before every thing else

[@johannessommer5853]

Just looking at this video makes me think of that person on tik tok that draws the eyes on like the forehead

[@Yey_chaos]

Pros brasileiros aqui: Recomendo um vídeo do Eric Artem, ele separa muito bem os erros dos estilos. Me ajudou bastante em definir o meu estilo de desenho

[@DarkShadliy]

My art changes all the time, thus having many art styles, i may have artist that inspire me to draw but none of them inspired my art style, it was all art tips and skills i have picked up everything else was done by me

[@non-existent_charlie]

My stepsister draws "characters." Her characters hands are so small and her feet are so small that the characters couldn't function. Whilei. Believe in style as an important part of your art, I also believe in anatomy gently nudging your art

[@mrpickles-hb6zx]

Yuck pfp, how's ur none existent penis?

[@marshmallowbaby6473]

I think unsolicited critique is the death of creativity

[@LYRlyrianhwang]

An actual art style occur when you know what you are capable or unable to do. I never know how to draw realism, nor do I able to capture any proportion accurately (in realistic sense). But I know how to draw buildings, depicting anything abstractly & now Im also working in pixel/voxel art style. Fundamentally, there are 3 things every artist should know, 1. No matter what, one should always hold on to some form of pride in his/her work as that is where you spent your time & effort in. 2. Basics & fundamentals of an art style is the utmost important thing ever. Every art style has its own set of tricks, no matter its abstract, anime/comic, cartoon, pixel, or any other style. It always have some sort of fundamentals, learning it will always help you excel in what you do. Even if the art style is fully created/developed by yourself alone. 3. Acknowledge your own flaws/weaknesses. Being able to address your own flaw means that you're always learning. Either to fix it or work with/around it is your own decision. Note that either way takes times & effort. So be patience & keep exploring, and always keep an open mind

[@guarddog318]

I think most people using the term "art style" really have no idea what the word means. Either that, or they're applying it in the wrong way. Osamu Tezuka developed what is now refered to as "anime style" way back in the 1960s. And in the 1990s a fellow by the name of Peter Chung did something similar with the Aeon Flux series on MTv. And you can see his work show up again in the animated Phantom 2049 series later/ Both have a distinctive way of representing the human body, and recognising their work is easy. The same is true of a great many other artists like Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko, Neal Adams, and a whole host of other comic artists and illustrators. They all draw and paint quite well, but do so in a way distinctive to THEM. Again, once you're familiar with each of them, it's easy to pick out who did what. Unfortunately, what most people mean when they say "my style" is just usually them doing a poor job of trying to copy or emulate somebody else's work and way of doing things. As for uninvited criticism, well, people putting their work out to be seen are inviting other people's opinions of it. And those opinions are just as likely to be bad aw they are good. So if they can't take hearing those opinions, it's probably best not to put that work on display. And that's my opinion, after 50+ years of drawing and painting. 😉

[@insertunoroginalnamehere6189]

I sometimes greatly exaggerate my characters anatomy, make it as unorthodox, uneven and unhinged as possible, (such as make one eye 5x the size of the other one) to the point where it is obvious i am doing it on purpose. I only do it for a few of my intentionally weird drawings/paintings. I believe it's a valid reason.

[@Nerdthebird]

I know that I definitely used to be one of those people who was obsessed with defending any part of my art that was pretty trash as a “stylistic choice”. I think the reason was because I genuinely didn’t know how to improve my art, so I felt like I had to like all aspects of the art I had. I feel like now I’m better at recognizing what I need to improve on, though, which I’m really happy about.

[@m4ggz_yk]

this video was so helpful for me. i always love drawing big ears on my characters. i dont know why, but before i hated drawing ears, but now i love drawing them to the point where i emphasize them. i also love drawing big eyes and making them always slightly stick out of the head. but lately i have been getting a lot of comments telling me that i have to make them smaller, and i don't want to do that because i like my big ears. i always thought that somehow my artstyle was inferior to the realistic artists because i change my proportions. i've tried making them smaller, and i have considered changing my style a bit, but i dont want to completely stray away from the big-eyes and big-ears idea, because that style is very close to my heart.

[@NinjaDash-ui9wb]

I am still working on my art style as well so I might be guilty as well with my skills

[@mango-vp1bv]

I have a certain style, yes i get it, you can make it goofy and weird, but at least make it good? There is a diffrence between artstyle and "artstyle" Artstyles are purposely made in a certain way while "artstyles" are accidently made in a certain way

[@Bunnyleadd]

I use my hands as reference, and my fingers curl out, so ive gotten a few comments about my hands being unrealistic, which sucks.

[@victoriaobi851]

I think now everybody is suddenly an art critique ( I don't know how to write it) and nobody is savìfe because we know thar some people are not giving constructive criticism just stright bullying. So saying is an artstyle it became a mechanism to defend ourselfves from harsh and mean criticism

[@minerman60101]

It is "critic". What an amazing language we have, giving us such derivative spellings as "gubernatorial"

[@spycenrice8108]

Just to help you out, “critique” is what a critic gives. It’s said “krit-teek” and a critic (krit-ick) is what you meant. Not trying to be rude!

[@victoriaobi851]

@@spycenrice8108 Yeah thank you, english is not my first language

[@fartz3808]

This is something i've been saying for years. Too many artists shoot themselves in the foot because they shy from risktaking (in their art).

[@Sofiia_123]

Wonderful take.

[@odin-aries]

Heres my hot art take. If what your drawing makes you happy, flaws and all, and your drawing for you, your art is achieving its goal. If you dont want to improve, ok, if you do, great! Art style is just how YOU find draeimg easiest. If it looks like someone elses art style, then that means you two find the same things appealing to draw or find it easiest for you to draw in said style. Originality is such a romantisized thing that it hinders creativity. NOTHING in this day and age is original! We have fantasy using concepts in the lord of the rings! We have tropes for a reason! We have CONCEPTS for a reason! Because someone came up with them and said "hey, this is fun! Try it!" And it got spread around! I have found MYSELF writing something that was so fucking similar to a book i had read AGES ago without even REALIZING it! We, as humans, take info we KNOW, and twists it into something WE percieve as new! We have superhero comics and shows because superheroes are fun! We have sexy villain art because who DOESNT want to simp for a sexy villain? We have Himbo's because Himbo(himbo's are self explanitory)! NOTHING is TRULY original, we just have a take of it WE PERSONALLY find new, even if it ISNT new. The point of art depends on your goal, from story telling, to conveying emotion, to just making you happy! Thats my hot take. Its what i keep in mind to keep me from comparing myself to other artists, and from keeping me from holding myself back! Because someone might find a story i write interesting, or a drawing or story makes ME happy, or a comic of mine conveys a message I WANT to say in a eay words cant!

[@DeneceTheSylcoe]

This is a bit of a tangent but something else that i was suprised by is that learning the fundamentals didn't just make my art better, but it made drawing so much more FUN! Style exploration is so much more fun when you have the basics under your belt. I always loved to draw and it was always fun, but i remember how frustrating drawing was as a kid. 😅 i also remember being an immature kid exclaiming "ITS JUST MUH STYLE" to critique BECAUSE i was so frustrated with where my art skills were at. So i like to point that out to beginning artists as well, while doing those "boring art class stuff" feels boring and unimportant it will actually help make art more fun in the long run and a far less frustrating experience. 😀 although of course it will always have its frustrating moments lol since we never truly stop learning. Anyway great video as always!

[@crazybrit1192]

At 0:30 you said pacifically instead of specifically, besides that horrible sin, well done on another banger video.

[@ryncise]

I heard specifically, I think the "s" sound just blends into the previous word. Especially since the previous word, discuss, ends with that sound.

[@crazybrit1192]

@@ryncise I just replayed it like ten times and you're right, I'm wrong. I ask you for forgiveness for my hubris despite knowing full well I am undeserving of it.

[@insertunoroginalnamehere6189]

​@@crazybrit1192character development 💪 (although you weren't bad in the first place)

[@Meray.]

I just watched this movie called big eyes it’s so good… I just wish she didn’t drop numerology, because I still believe in it, yeah but I get it it just made her look crazy back then.

[@Morrynlupine]

Man, this video reminded me of the time I was trying to really push my proportions and get out of my comfort zone with my art. During the sketch phase I sent it to a wip channel of a discord server and asked for critique, notably mentioning that specific sections of the proportions (the drawing was of an emo anime dog and I was wanting to dramatize the way the back of the character curved, specifically making it sharper since my intention was to try a sharper, more shaped based style) were intentional and that I was mostly looking for advice on other sections of the piece. After lining and coloring the piece, making some small adjustments and deciding I liked it dramatic, but slightly less dramatic than in the sketch, I sent the finished piece to the finished art channel. Several hours later I got a critique response in the wip channel that almost entirely hyperfixated on the way I drew the back of the character, save for some advice on the back paws, completely disregarding what I had said. In my response, I simply reiterated that I had specifically chosen to draw the back that way, while also adding in that the piece had actually already been finished and that I had made the sharpness a little softer while agreeing with them on the point about the back paws being of and making note of it for future works. I figured they wouldn't respond after that, but less than 15 minutes later they kept ranting to me about how I messed up, even taking the sketch and redlining without my permission and sending a photo of an actual de*d dog with a broken back to me (under spoiler, but without any kind of indication about what I would see when I clicked to reveal it). The experience has stuck with me even after, like, 5 or so years due to how damaging it was. It immediately soured any kind of interest I had in trying to go for a more angular style despite how much I still, to this day, like them aesthetically. There isn't really much point in sharing this story, ig, but on the off chance someone reads this just, y'know, if someone says that they don't want critique on something at the moment or they are trying something new and to disregard it, maybe listen to them and don't needlessly go off about how it's proportionally wrong? It might just chase them off of art which is a very bad thing.

[@sessishownu3196]

Hi Celestia, thanks for your videos. Could you a lil video on mistakes to avoid or tips on how to shade clothe ? Thank you :)

[@GayCats8]

but it is quite annoying when someone DOES ask for your opinion and then get mad when you honestly critique their art. like, dont say, "ItS jUsT mY sTyLE" as soon as you ask me to point out mistakes

[@MeChan25]

The only time the phrase "it's my style" really upset me is if it's after they have asked me for critique and have already shown me the style they are trying to draw. can't even count the number of times friends have come up to me, show me what style they are trying to mimic, ask for help, and then get mad when i go "if this is they style you want, maybe try doing this part different". mostly it just seems to be the case of newer artists asking for critique when they actually want compliments. I'm fine with giving compliments on any works (all art has good points), but SAY that is what you want, instead of asking for an honest critique.

[@autumnsartstudio]

Because of my carpel tunnel my lines are not straight at all. I was doing so good in improving my style before I developed severe carpal tunnel and hand numbness (doctors diagnosis). I've already done the surgery and guess what? Because of my art the carpel tunnel came back after a year so it was a waste of money. Went to digital and I mean it helps but now even with stablization high my lines of wobbly and my fingers get tingly and numb. I may need to find another hobby soon because I've been frustrated that I'm not getting any better anymore.

[@gogetbamboozled]

so many popular adult artists on youtube refuse to acknowledge that criticism isnt for everyone at all time . one youtuber who i used to watch constantly stated that all artists need to improve to be real artists , that not accepting criticism is accepting defeat in art . i dont get why people like him care , if an artist is okay with where theyre at- why would it concern you ?

[@wpyyexe]

*pops popcorn* Now the title alone grabbed my interest!

[@lukarooka9009]

oh boi this video will be fun

[@poseidons_child.]

Yup