When Is the Right Time to Launch the Nintendo Switch 2? - Next-Gen Console Watch

On this week's Next-Gen Console Watch, Daemon is joined by Ryan McCaffrey, host of IGN's Xbox podcast, Podcast Unlocked, and Max Scoville, host of IGN's PlayStation show, Beyond. The topic is actually Nintendo, with the news that the Switch 2 has reportedly been delayed to 2025, in order to build up stock to fight scalpers. With the current Switch entering its 7th year and the hardware showing its age, would 2025 be the right time to release the successor? Or should Nintendo get it out this year as previously reported?
#IGN #Gaming #Nintendo

[@crobinson2624]

More like, when is the best time to ANNOUNCE a Switch 2.

[@jonathanwilson7949]

We don’t even have a codename yet 🤣

[@sorarmojoanakket.5615]

Wen will @whatphoto launch switch 2 too🎉😂

[@user-cq5kn7tc7g]

Still waiting

[@o.c.4677]

January 30th, so you can't return the switch from Christmas 😂

[@agromchung]

Basically the shortest time possible before it launches, because otherwise it slows sales of the Switch 1

[@MikeKnops]

Week 2 of asking IGN to put the link to the poll in the description of every NGCW video.

[@jasonpeterson3860]

A spring launch also makes sense for a handheld, as people begin to think about getting outside more and traveling.

[@d3ath_realm]

YOURE HIRED!

[@l5lmgtlink]

No point cannibalizing sales of a great console to launch its successor undercooked. Launch it when it's ready.

[@lol-ih1tl]

Switch is 7 years old. That's one console generation.

[@mr_m4613]

@@lol-ih1tl but you gotta remember that the game boy was on the market for over 12 years, we could have another game boy situation here.

[@lol-ih1tl]

@@mr_m4613 Remember that PS6 and the 5th generation of Xbox would launch around November 2027. Do you really think that Nintendo is going to release their next console near the end of this console generation or the start of the next one? We're already at the halfway point of the 9th generation. We've also entered Switch's final year. We're going to have a new console by next year.

[@kidrobot.]

​@@mr_m4613 it was different back then

[@DeathtotheAshes]

That makes no sense when you already know the next switch is gonna perform at last gen levels. It’s already gonna be outdated. And that’s already using artificial upscaling as a crutch.

[@texasbeast2542]

About 2 years ago when they released the oled

[@erikjohnson1412]

5yrs ago….

[@Boss_Fight_Wiki_muki_twitch]

If it's fall 2024, Switch2 will have to share the stage with the PS5/XsX. IF in spring 2025 it can have the spotlight all to itself.

[@hododod246]

GTA6 is coming next year. And Sony will really go hard in terms of marketing and associate GTA6 with PS5 Pro

[@n1nj4l1nk]

It isn't and never was coming this year.

[@dickdickensen]

GTA6 yaaawn ^^

[@sidewinder2057]

Share the stage how so? No one gives a f about PS5 or Series X now, and by November people will give even less fcks about these consoles. Plus Sony announced they have basically nothing for this year. They cleared the way for Switch 2 in 2024. In 2025 there will be GTA6, PS5 Pro, more exclusives from Sony and Microsoft... 2024 is the perfect year for a new Switch

[@Alto53]

​@@hododod246unless they delay it.

[@charlesjhorn]

It would be nice to have the perspective of Nintendo Voice Chat folks regarding Nintendo news.

[@dmaster001]

Yeah, was actually pretty surprised they didn't have Seth along for this one that was like 100% Nintendo. They've had him on before for way less Nintendo talk than this episode had. They really might want to consider having a three person team with Daemon more often tbh.

[@halbailman]

It was discussed on NVC the previous week.

[@earthboundman5]

You should put the link to the poll in the description

[@JacksonWitsell]

Launching it in March 2025 makes sense overall. However, Nintendo may want to find some new game with mass appeal to release in the second half of this year if they don’t want to kill all of the Switch’s remaining momentum for the holidays.

[@NPC2358]

2025 GTA VI time

[@Hazemann]

Imagine what a 8 years gap between Switch 1 & Switch 2 processor can do. We know that mobile technologies vastly improved every year. Between non customised (Switch 1) vs customised (Switch 2) processor it's gigantic advancement in graphics power & efficiency 💪

[@ghostxplatinum]

Would be nice to have the Switch successor release sooner rather than later. Especially when Nintendo's current hardware is in dire need of an upgrade. Expect to see more remakes/remasters and ports of older games until their next console releases.

[@smachdos1593]

2027 is the right time, so they have more time to develop and optimize Metroid Prime 4 and new Zelda game

[@skycloud4802]

Hardware is in desperate need of a refresh by this point. The games are practically playing on a potato.

[@mkruger385]

@@skycloud4802 no it doesnt the games are doing fine rn, splatoon 3 is playing great, mario is playing great

[@mkruger385]

@@solidsnivy5639 so splatoon 3 can have a 5 yr life span

[@cityplanner3063]

@@mkruger385first party games are fine but third party games aren’t getting released on switch as often bc of hardware limitations.

[@unnderneath]

Kid Icarus launch title please

[@chefdonut8905]

In your dreams buckaroo

[@tolaut]

6:35 wrong, they have been talking about "switch systems" on their official website and in tweets.

[@kevingame3198]

Let’s all Metroid prime 4 becomes a launch title since it’s reveal since 2017

[@TALKDUMMY]

Missing holiday sales is crazy

[@introvert_8372]

Damn, I’m going to try and hold on just in case there is a legends Z-A collection type switch.

[@GreyplayComics]

that green scale pattern would be great if done right, zygarde's eye somewhere on the console/controller

[@itsdeonlol]

YOU CAN'T STOP THE SCALPERS...

[@user-zr4dg3xq2u]

Literally anytime. It will sell like wildfire regardless of when. We’re talking about the best handheld console in the world that has decade old hardware whose fanbase has been dying for a major upgrade.

[@ConsoleAuthority]

Hats off to you guys for keeping this series alive since pandemic

[@ts7844]

What the hell are you talking about?!

[@chrisboogie1762]

Fall most have a ps5 or series. Holiday money missed

[@douglasgroff7059]

In the same year the PS5 enters the 2nd (and final) cycle of it’s life, Nintendo launches NSW successor. Just brilliant, Nintendo 👏

[@mikeuk666]

That will be when PS5 pro arrives

[@Telmarine55]

Nintendo doesn’t follow Sony’s lead. In general, Nintendo are the market disrupters. It’s Sony reacting to Nintendo for now.

[@douglasgroff7059]

@@mikeuk666 exactly, so same console vs a new one

[@douglasgroff7059]

@@Telmarine55 that my friend is true! :D

[@KyashiTran-san]

what if that return of the Nintendo Switch 2's front/back camera and microphone in the future

[@dr.sivavignesh664]

When you have killer launch titles , release it. No need to wait with the switch 2 hoping for better performance for last gen titles.

[@Davidskates603]

When Switch 2 is released, can Seth be a a part of the panel since it will also be next gen?

[@eloylopez8929]

Hope its backwards compat and improves switch games when u play them on it that would be nice lol

[@MattyS54]

last year?

[@fujat8092]

When is the best and right time to close down ign? Its like every time since 2000

[@APEXGuerilla]

Hopefully 2 more years

[@jorgegalvan9146]

They never announced any date so how can it be delayed? 🤨

[@brunoadame4667]

Last year

[@KondoAeros]

Right frikin now

[@tipitiiew]

Still waiting those Prime 2 and 3 to come out....

[@tipitiiew]

*Remasters of course*

[@ztheshadow]

Plenty of time before the next Smash comes out so they can optimize the game to its full potential.

[@alexharvey5122]

Loooool

[@Wario1382]

😐

[@masterdan804]

The moment the Switch passes the PS2.

[@billballmar6003]

PS2 is no longer in world wide production? Those are superficial numbers if they were in-production that would be different numbers but it's not in-production.

[@sirownzalotgaming3025]

About 2 years ago

[@eeskaatt]

max scoville needs a rimlight, or another light opposite of the green one behind him

[@DonZenOfficial]

Just imagine driving home with a brand new, sealed Nintendo Switch 2 - OLED 120hz STARFOX Launch Edition bundle 😇😇😇😇😇 please Nintendo pleaseeeeee

[@gameindustryinsider6450]

Why would they announce before Christmas and ruin holiday sales for themselves? The Wii U wasn’t selling and they needed time to build hype. Not this time around :)

[@kidrobot.]

no they didn't. because the wii was a major hit. they messed up due to the name, not the timing or building of hype

[@gameindustryinsider6450]

@@kidrobot. ??

[@user-cq5kn7tc7g]

It should be early 2025 cause the more we wait the longer we won't know when it will be announced or have a presentation

[@spinzaku97]

Stop overthinking the Pokemon Legends announcement. Detective Pikachu used the exact same verbage of releasing for Nintendo Switch systems when it was officially revealed.

[@kagemara277]

Nintendo needs to be sure that when new Xbox releases and also PS6, then Nintendo needs to be powerful enough to handle ports that developers make for these systems.

[@tytheeprophet5021]

PS6 not coming until 2030’s

[@gabrielmcmillan]

@@tytheeprophet5021 People are expecting it to be released in 2027 or 2028.

[@kingxevi]

2025 March/April) launch is perfect, maybe a teaser later this year

[@tobalfrancois2650]

The launch title will me next Mario Kart

[@dermotbrennan5738]

Best time to announce. This summer. Best time to launch. Just before xmas

[@madphilx6397]

Nintendo needs to release wind waker and twilight princess!! They would make a killing.

[@SuperiorAmericanGuy]

It better not fail just like the Wii U did with the original Wii.

[@SawBlood45]

Any time starting 2 years ago

[@EzGrimzz]

when the fire nation attacked probably

[@dilir2572]

The right time to announce was a year ago

[@aliali-ce3yf]

meh, if they can still put out tears of the kingdom and mario wonder quality games on this switch, what's the rush?

[@WarriorOfWriters]

You seen the lineup this year? It's shovelware.

[@storyteller618]

When it’s ready …….

[@mikeuk666]

ready as in out of development?

[@Eaglescott]

Why is everyone in a rush ? Still got decent games releasing ( even Mario /dk was just releases ) . It’s not like ps/Xbox is releasing anything compelling . March 2025 will be release 100%.

[@mikeuk666]

​@@user-ej9nl1ng9dpalworld is early access game

[@hvalle1086]

Two years ago

[@numenthehuman]

Real question is when is the right time to shut the doors on IGN

[@Isaac-fp1nx]

Now that's a burn 🔥

[@Thelegendhimself91]

Probably when you stop commenting on thier page kid would be start wouldn't it son

[@numenthehuman]

@@Thelegendhimself91 kid, son, who tf you talking to like a child. Sit down.

[@corey2232]

When they stop making money off your views & engagement? Yet here you are, contributing like everyone else who claims to hate them but still follows everything they do.

[@numenthehuman]

@@corey2232 Aw, someone's upset

[@Great-Documentaries]

6:20: Jesus! How hard is it to understand that "Switch consoles" means it will be for both the current Switch hardware and the new hardware???

[@TakisEnjoyer]

No, Switch consoles usually means all variants of the Switch, it can include possible Switch 2, but they already used this terminology before to specify Switch, Switch Lite, etc.

[@Telmarine55]

There’s not guarantee that the next console will have a Switch moniker. If it’s a Switch variant then yes, if it’s a next-gen console then will not be Switch-name system.

[@jasonfiser9690]

Yesterday

[@bucky5676]

Whenever the OLED switch was announced… That’s when they should’ve announced/released. The slow drag is kind of annoying at this point.

[@Catadventures131]

Prime 4

[@jakattack117]

Now the answer is now 😂 really id love one now but wouldn't mind them taking their time to make sure they have enough and that its upgraded decently

[@john-lukepollock6539]

Why not have Seth or Logan on to talk about Nintendo?

[@CMONCMON007]

You imagine if the next 3D Mario that launches with the new Nintendo console is Super Mario......GALAXY 3 baby!!!! Yeaaaah

[@giovannii5759]

2026 OR 2027 to better coincide with PS6

[@RAINKingMatt]

At this point Nintendo might as well wait until the next generation at this point. We’re already 4 years in with the Xbox Series X/S and PlayStation 5

[@kagemara277]

Totally agree, because Nintendo needs to handle ports from soon arriving PS6 and new Xbox.

[@RAINKingMatt]

@@kagemara277 yea, then technically they wouldn’t be behind 2 generations

[@mikeuk666]

​@@RAINKingMatt they usually release in their own window vs other systems

[@eduardod14s]

When the Switch stops selling

[@Paddieization]

It must be asked, where is Seth.

[@sivapetit1]

Hope to play uncharted trilogy in handheld

[@Doctor_Duck.]

1 year ago

[@BowtieJDP]

I’d love a pokemon game that runs more than 7fps, the national dex, being able to go into buildings like previous gens instead or just menus at the door. For a game that makes billions each release they have the most bare bones pathetic quality imaginable. Done supporting it.

[@metalx224]

Agree with the 70%

[@pedrova70]

Why are these dudes so nervous?

[@nintendolover114]

talking about launch when we dont even know what the switch successor is yet is weird to me

[@Aries_Sinslayer]

Sooo we're ignoring the Sony layoffs 😂

[@knuclear200x]

*_NOW_*

[@fieldystick]

Why did you have two non-Nintendo specialists on to talk about Nintendo news? What a terrible decision.

[@grcigar9911]

Really depends on strategy. First party only for an assumed 7-year prime life cycle, or embracing third party? If the former, doesn’t matter even if performance specs are underpowered. Perhaps same strategy as the Switch. However, if AAA third party games needed over that same time period as other competitors seem to be finding necessary, then Nintendo should delay at all costs to continue to procure more powerful hardware specs. Consumer concept of next gen console gaming is only about 3 years away and will reset the bar which will impact Nintendo one way or the other. Also, Nintendo will find traditional mobile device manufacturers being more competitive in this space as well.

[@TheKaizokuman]

The specs aren't to change with a small delay. That stuff tends to be set way in advance.

[@rewris]

Three years ago.

[@daniebello]

yesterday

[@lampzhade]

Asap, most games can’t even run at a stable 20 fps

[@JsYTA]

Which games?

[@alirebel5732]

No

[@lampzhade]

@@JsYTA almost all of them, except SOME first parties from Nintendo

[@JsYTA]

@@lampzhade which games?

[@lampzhade]

@@JsYTA read

[@robenvilla1500]

Don’t ever compare this launch with 2020 launches. PlayStation and Xbox had supply issues which made it harder to release an abundant amount at once. There’s no more shortages on anything just a bad economy at the moment so people might struggle more to buy one this time around

[@nohomers100]

By what metric is the economy bad?

[@mikeuk666]

Bad economy...... palworld smashes sales vs AAA titles

[@iangagel6027]

2022

[@daniebello]

i’m buying a PS5 Pro if it has significantly higher FPS that’s the only thing it needs for me

[@user-yc3ki2sq3e]

It obviously is gonna be released next year

[@DanteS-119]

Nothing wrong with the Switch... I'm totally satisfied.

[@I2ocker89]

Announcing Switch 2 prior to 2024 holiday season would cannibalize holiday sales of the Switch 1. Especially if 2 is backwards compatible

[@emadstarns291]

When is the right time 2027 when the PS6 is out that should make more then enough Nintendo consoles not to be sold out everyone gets it I’m not in a hurry for scalpers to buy them all out

[@AuthorJoelKrupa]

Not even Nintendo can combat scalpers. If they’re going to drag their heels on releasing competent hardware, they better release a system that isn’t poorly designed and received. (WiiU all over again.)

[@RAINKingMatt]

If Metroid Prime 4 and a new 3D Mario game launches with the Switch, Nintendo will make bank for sure!!

[@1337GamingLive]

June or early July. A Limited supply would make kids want them for the holidays.

[@Hundo_Mo]

Unlike PS5 and XBOX… launch it when it has games worth playing.

[@corey2232]

Finally, a rational comment.

[@ytm23ak]

Considering most of its launch games could barely hit 720p 30fps I’d say about 7 years ago

[@mikeuk666]

Citation required

[@ytm23ak]

@@mikeuk666 you’re right looks like a dynamic 900p with inconsistent frame rate is the most common. Breath of The Wild 900p 30FPS 2. Tears of The Kingdom 900p 30FPS 3. Link’s Awakening 900p 60FPS 4. Skyward Sword 1080p 60FPS 5. Super Mario Odyssey 900p 60FPS 6. New Super Mario Bros U 1080p 60FPS 7. Super Mario 3D World 1080p 60FPS 8. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe 1080p 60FPS 9. Super Mario Maker 2 1080p 60FPS 10. Super Mario Party 1080p 60FPS 11. Mario Party Superstars 1080p 60FPS 12. Super Smash Bros 1080p 60FPS 13. Pokémon Let’s go Pikachu 1080p 30FPS 14. Pokémon Let’s go Eevee 1080 30FPS 15. Pokémon Sword 1080p 30FPS 16. Pokémon Shield 1080p 30FPS 17. Pokémon Legends Arceus 1080p 30FPS 18. Donkey Kong Country 1080p 60FPS 19. Luigi’s Mansion 3 1080p 30FPS 20. Kirby Star Allies 1080p 30FPS 21. Kirby the Forgotten Land 1080p 30FPS 22. Splatoon 2 1080p 60FPS 23. Splatoon 3 1080p 60FPS 24. Metroid Dread 900p 60FPS 25. Metroid Prime Remastered 900p 60FPS 26. Xenoblade definitive edition 720p 30FPS 27. Xenoblade 2 720p 30FPS 28. Xenoblade 3 1080p 30FPS 29. Fire Emblem Three Houses 1080p 30FPS 30. Fire Emblem Engage 1080p 30FPS 31. Kingdom Battle 900p 30FPS 32. Sparks of Hope 900p 30FPS 33. Bayonetta 720p 60FPS 34. Bayonetta 2 720p 60FPS 35. Bayonetta 3 900p 60FPS 36. Pikmin 1 1080p 30FPS 37. Pikmin 2 1080p 30FPS 38. Pikmin 3 Deluxe 720p 30FPS 39. Pikmin 4 900p 30FPS 40. The Witcher 3 720p 30FPS 41. Doom 720p 30FPS 42. Doom Eternal 720p 30FPS 43. Alien Isolation 1080p 30FPS 44. Outlast 1080p 30FPS 45. Outlast 2 1080p 30FPS 46. Vanishing of Ethan Carter 900p 30FPS 47. Mortal Kombat 11 720p 60FPS 48. No Man’s Sky 720p 30FPS 49. Skyrim 900p 30FPS 50. Crash Bandicoot Trilogy 720p 30FPS 51. Crash Bandicoot 4 1080p 30FPS 52. Spyro Reignited Trilogy 1080p 30FPS 53. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 900p 30FPS 54. Persona 5 Royal 720p 30FPS 55. Persona 4 Golden 1080p 60FPS 56. Persona 3 Portable 1080p 60FPS 57. Shin Megami Tensei 5 720p 30FPS 58. Bioshock Collection 1080p 30FPS 59. Borderlands Collection 720p 30FPS 60. Hellblade 720p 30FPS 61. Crysis Trilogy 900p 30FPS 62. Fortnite 900p 30FPS

[@Billigoat21]

It's a handheld device though

[@andrewofaiur]

Answer: When Nintendo feels like it's the right time to launch the Switch 2. Everyone else's opinion matters not.

[@salasalsa-mb5gw]

Mario odyssey 2

[@andrewchamberlain9523]

Ign is really gonna milk this whole switch 2 thing huh? Hey let's next week talk about how much it should cost! 🤪

[@Puntonghua]

When they can produce enough untied to avoid a PS5 launch disaster. No later than 2025 Q1 though coz even my (non existent) patience runs out 😒

[@Great-Documentaries]

And Nintendo couldn't care less about scalpers as all they do is ensure that product is sold immediately, which is what Nintendo wants!

[@skycloud4802]

Nintendo do limited prints of games and fight emulation to keep game prices high. So Nintendo effectively encourages scalping.

[@mikeuk666]

​@@skycloud4802citation

[@corey2232]

Not true. They make most of their money on software sales, accessories and services, and scalpers aren't buying those. They want a high attach rate & people buying up tons of software, subscribing to NSO, making eShop purchases, etc. and the more units that are sitting on a scalper's shelves, the less money they make.

[@ralphtaylor7448]

Im selling my switch now before it gets overcrowded

[@Great-Documentaries]

It's hilarious that YOU suggest that it is a "delay" and that YOU were expecting it to be released in the 2nd half of 2024 when Nintendo has said literally nothing. There's no delay. There's rumors, and we all know what people who spread rumors are like. [cough]

[@mikeuk666]

Surely developers would know when a system is going to release as games take more than a year to produce....

[@whereaboutsunknown3822]

This right here

[@Telmarine55]

When Nintendo says so. Case closed.

[@AuthorJoelKrupa]

This is a tricky question, because the arena is about to be filled with a lot more handhelds from different companies. Nintendo is going to be guaranteed lost market share to companies like Valve with the SteamDeck. The biggest thing salvaging Switch 2 is backwards compatibility, if that’s going to be a thing for Switch 2.