When Machine Guns changed human warfare

[@masternoremac3738]

Couldn't imagine being a tuba player during that war.

[@frankmyrand]

In Russia, they call it Band Practice

[@ferdrewflores3014]

🤓 Rite !!

[@maxflaviohs]

worst it could happen would be you swallowing a bullet through that tuba. XD

[@1taxsettlement]

almost like the proverbial band playing on a sinking ship

[@rutger7005]

Any other instruments?

[@jeffreyedwards609]

Don't think they liked the music.

[@pescadordealmas77]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@-Invero-]

But Farewell of Slavianka is great :(

[@BaI_GUY]

pov: me when the enemy is doing a line battle if b&i was entrenched and i saw one musician killed one guy

[@OzzyTheGiant]

The music was certainly killing something

[@tinlinnoo1226]

yo you play b and i as well ​@@BaI_GUY

[@YuriDoesStrikeball]

0:00 The Admiral 1:30 Warhorse 2:32 The Battle of Passchendaele 3:20 Warsaw 44

[@sulistiotio9397]

Danke für Info

[@mitchellvliem6200]

Thanks. Shame admin didn't do this

[@조승엽-h5p]

thank u

[@sorapantsu8598]

Thanks a lot

[@wardaddyg3841]

Thanks for the info.

[@metrunui8224]

and a few years later this MG grew a pair of wings screaming *BBBRRRTT*

[@justtheooo1248]

The sound of freedom.

[@carldsouza9436]

Fairchild Republic A-10C Thunderbolt II Believe it or not, I know how to fly the jet.

[@jmikedahizzle5617]

Contended Beatle Did you get to pick what you wanted to fly when you joined the Air Force?

[@cmyties9642]

Metru Nui a10 warthog i know ho to fly one

[@rektigt7673]

@@carldsouza9436 like i actually don’t believe you fly a real A10 but I believe you know how to fly an A10 is DCS

[@panzerivausfg4062]

The horces had a special ability in avoiding all the bullets

[@DialgaMarine3]

To be fair, if you watch the film, after the machine guns stop firing, the camera pans out and up over the field and you see hundreds of dead horses and men scattered about. I guess the Germans were aiming specifically at the men riding, so fewer horses were killed. Either way, War Horse wasn’t all that great of a movie in general, so it’s not worth putting too much thought into it

[@gamerlightningnr1224]

@@DialgaMarine3 the movie was Great shuush

[@panzerivausfg4062]

@Lord Azreal Lais LOL

[@M1DL1F3GAM3R]

2:11 LOKI was riding with them! Not surprising the horse live!

[@YesGoodVeryGood]

HoRsEs*

[@DialgaMarine3]

I’m impressed that line lasted as long as it did. Also, the ballsiest tuba player in human history.

[@RobertAragonIsGhxst]

Who said musicians were nerds

[@themodernfrontiersmen]

In real life they would have charged the position with a creeping barrage. By the late 19th century band players were no longer to preferred method of communication on the battlefield. But prior to this, soldiers in the band (who were most often children) were responsible for keeping the formation in step, relaying information to the army commanders, and receiving/disseminating order from the army commanders. This was all done with drums and flutes (later other wind instruments). Despite popular belief, the officers in WW1 were not incompetent and their strategies were often sound, despite having high casualties.

[@granola661]

​@@themodernfrontiersmenYou are very clueless about how the russians fought during WW1, and directly after in their civil war.

[@battleshipman56]

​@granola661 not really, you are brainwashed by propaganda. Having grandparents who fought in both wars & civil war, I can tell you that all these western movies and information and history is pure bullshit and speculation and to obscure the truth and to paint the far east as inferior and bad. Rethink your history and maybe learn real history, go 2 russia and check archives

[@lawrencebittke8478]

I thought for sure the band music would deflect the machine gun bullets and artillery shells. Guess not.

[@kevinflorenzdaus]

+10 dodge

[@giantturtlecat2959]

Lawrence Bittke *When the Bard rolls a 1*

[@0IIIIII]

The music is meant to inspire people and guide their movements. As for why they aren’t running...it’s so that they arrive at the enemy in a readied state. Not exhausted or scattered.

[@radscorpion8]

@@0IIIIII hmm...infantry should really run though. I mean as a soldier you should have the stamina and training to be able to run, first of all, and arrive in formation. And second, by walking into a hail of gunfire you are losing so many infantry that it hardly makes it worth it. Its just crazy. I assume that is why they all charged during WWI, because it would have been suicide to walk in front of a machine gun as they showed here. Maybe back in the days of pure muskets you could get away with it but once the Maxim came out really, that's suicide

[@0IIIIII]

@@radscorpion8 well your opinions on warfare or cinema (intent of the director) doesn’t really matter does it? You’re not an expert

[@lippalassi]

Ah the classic 'human wave walking slowly towards machine-gun fire'. Made famous by Douglas Haig and The Somme

[@loyalpiper]

Doesn't mention they were out of ammunition eh?

[@jermainallen7176]

Rule Britannia!

[@maxflaviohs]

the manliest army is the one who make you run out of ammunition...u_u

[@jermainallen7176]

@15 is legal In Europe Read carefully. He said "made famous"

[@jermainallen7176]

@15 is legal In Europe 'Made famous' as in everyone knows about walking towards machineguns from the Battle of the Somme not 'made famous' as if Haig was the first one to use this tactic. This battle is the most famous representation of this tactic due to how disasterous it was for the British in terms of casualties and the little gains they made; I think it was 20,000 casualties in the first day. Everyone remembers the Somme not any of the other wars you talkes about.

[@timsnow2204]

Excellent shooting, missed all the horses.

[@TheNemo65]

German bullets only seek human targets, not the animals.

[@kimwy9870]

@@TheNemo65 1 more reason to trust german products right?

[@mariafavela5741]

It did not showed all the scene in the end you can see all the dead men and horses of that battle the name of the movie is war horse

[@sorapantsu8598]

Nono.. that horses has been get buffed armour by WG. Front plate 215mm, side 180mm and rear 135mm. It can move with 19mph speed.

[@MrYfrank14]

horses can be captured, ridden by the enemy or eaten. so, why kill them? plus, if you shoot the horse, the rider can still attack on foot.

[@BlueSkyCountry]

The small tank in the first WWII clip of this series was a German remote controlled drone tankette with an explosive payload. The Germans were already using explosive drones on the battlefield in 1943.

[@OvermasterJ]

called Goliath

[@ikat_tracer]

Sd.Kfz. 303b "Goliath" a remote controlled charge carrier with 100kg of explosives.

[@XMysticHerox]

Yeah but they were garbage and extremely inefficient.

[@yeshuaislord6880]

@@XMysticHeroxWell it was a starting concept

[@XMysticHerox]

@@yeshuaislord6880 One not really because that specific tech never went anywhere. We don't use ground based explosive drones even now. Two that doesn't change the fact that it wasn't particularly impressive at all. OP painted it as this grand achievment showcasing how advanced the Nazis were. In reality they were far behind in radio and radar technology by 43. Like with a lot of things they were simply willing to waste a shit ton of ressources on absurd projects because of their idiotic ideology.

[@nominom2680]

To explain some things about the first scene It's the Russian civil war, right after ww1, the ones charging are the whites, they are out of ammunition, they charge at the entrenched red's and actually win that battle The guy leading them is a badasss who through the war won a ton of battles leading only cavalry The music is "farewell slavianka" (The white version ofc), a marching song, ment to give a rhythm to the march and inspire the men

[@maizen1403]

What battle is that bud?

[@FloozyMcDoozy694]

@@ssen18220 both thankfully dead ironically

[@jwelke9]

@@ssen18220 wrong. And you mean Leon Bronstein. Let’s just be honest here.

[@samdumaquis2033]

They "won" at the cost of nearly everyone

[@crown1849]

@@samdumaquis2033 Win is win

[@frenchbrit5098]

Lesson learned from this, don't bring a tuba to a machine gun fight

[@perlasandoval7883]

those were musicians used to communicate and raise morale

[@joaopaulocatanzaro293]

And dress like horses 😂😂😂

[@Mignonmoogle]

@@perlasandoval7883 True.

[@czr7j9]

you must give the musicians credit for staying in tune while being machine gunned.

[@awang0akhmal536]

when someone just hacking in nepoleon era belike

[@johannsebastianbach9003]

Hahahaha lmao

[@Xanctus]

mount n blade

[@wyvernharries4788]

If I know anything from that frist movie the black hats line were the loyalists for the tzar and the mg nest were the revolutionarys red army.

[@wyvernharries4788]

@Imperial Senator Avitus Livius Aquila a pleasure.

[@jspthesecond0723]

Turd Sandwiches vs Giant Douches

[@demam41]

Imagine if every soldier with a gun died in that march and it was only the instrumental soldiers left and they just charge with their tubas and somehow beat the red army?

[@sirsmiles1915]

That would've been quite the turn of events

[@commierule9924]

@De Mama41 when they killed that woman they got angry

[@demam41]

@@commierule9924 yes I know, long live communism

[@mr_lonelyboy2001]

@@demam41 better dead than red!

[@reaper2579]

@@mr_lonelyboy2001 more like better red than dead

[@natelav534]

Man band used to be way more metal than the kids in highschool were.

[@dylancheddar1465]

Being forced to charge in WW1 (any war in general) would be absolutely terrifying 😬

[@leighz1962]

Falling back is worse.. especially if there are orders for no retreat.

[@Cobretti-50]

3:25 moment that we all waited

[@Legendary_UA]

20th century weapons against 19th century tactics.

[@Broncort1]

When the one with the trumpet gets killed, the other picks up the trumpet and PLAYS!!!

[@JohnDoe-tw8es]

I remember firing a Bren gun in the British army back in the 70's. Was amazed at the power of all these bullets smashing things out front of your. Remember cutting down a tree with around a 10 second burst and watching it fall and starting a fire with the tracer rounds .

[@TOFKAS01]

"I was a soldier in WW1" "Oh, what have you done there?" "I played the Tuba." "....."

[@oskaraskasala8138]

Have you ever head a thing called marching formation and morale?yeah these are probably the most important aspects in combat

[@TOFKAS01]

@@oskaraskasala8138 Formation... Against machineguns....very important for fertilizing the fields....

[@oskaraskasala8138]

@@TOFKAS01 i mean yeah it was bad for them to come out in the first place, but if you do, going towards your enemy in formation is much better than scattering across the field

[@oskaraskasala8138]

@@TOFKAS01 and you obviously dont understand how important morale is for your troops

[@TOFKAS01]

@@oskaraskasala8138 Ah yes, the very high morale when you get blown away by machineguns.... Lol....

[@joelhessling4709]

what we learned today is that as long as you play Farewell of slavianka on your tuba you are safe.

[@commierule9924]

As soon as the song started like 10 of them died i guess they wanted to "kill the music"

[@jffry890]

Bard powers

[@Mike91337]

Young men mowed down by their hundreds. Women most affected**

[@Rouxgarou96]

I hate those types of women, always trying to be victims.

[@louisrhode289]

At this stage they were still fighting like if it was the Napoleonic wars.

[@f4ucorsair153]

Wth is this playing musical instruments instead of fighting while getting absolutely hammered?

[@sendai0082]

white Russian still use napoleon era tactics

[@ferdrewflores3014]

Rite !!!

[@robloxandrei6050]

So that the Units will be inspired and make their Morale High

[@istu58448ify]

Thats what happens when your military doesn't evolve and keep the old ways of doing things.. they had to many old Generals.

[@nominom2680]

How else do you think they got soundtracks back in the day?

[@ZenithF0RTE]

I literally lol'd when the marching band started playing. You can tell who was taking a piss when they were handing out the weapons.

[@jakubjanota5086]

The first attack was bad even by 1870s standarts. They would be crushed even if the enemy didnt have machineguns.

[@J0hnHenrySNEEDen]

From what i do recall that one scene came from a movie about the russian civil war called the admiral and if i do remember the white army ran out of ammo in that one scene

[@jakubjanota5086]

@@J0hnHenrySNEEDen that's possible but still they should be spread out, running and they should use elements on the flanks. These are 1910s and 1920s. I am not convinced they would fight like this.

[@f1r3hunt3rz5]

@@jakubjanota5086 They were possibly tired, plus they were in a snowy terrain. Much harder to run all the way, so they just used their energy to sprint when near the enemy to quickly melee them. Also, forgot to mention: The side with the machine gun lost that battle pretty hard AFAIK

[@oskaraskasala8138]

​@@jakubjanota5086spreading out=low morale, no formatiom which means less firepower (in this case less power in punching thru enemy lines) so yeah both methods have flaws although spreading out is usually a worse decision

[@Boooooooooo541]

did the white Russians learn anything from ww1?

[@stormwolf8770]

No

[@of1cer801]

They was thinking that communist russians are dumb like white russians

[@loyalpiper]

They had no ammunition, they say so right before the charge.

[@AndreasConfirmed]

It's only a moovie.

[@williamacheson3569]

Excuse me they won world war 2 so yes they did

[@thomasesthomas1996]

Wow. Armies really did used to march to the beat, until that fateful day in 1863 when Mr Gatling came to town. World changed to worse...

[@-KillaWatt-]

Even after its invention there was a long period of time where generals didn't understand the impact the machine gun had on battlefields. They were still doing lined formations while marching towards these things.

[@rorymorrissey8238]

Marching in step towards slaughter!

[@rico5766]

'Ow we getting shot at by a rain of bullets, lets play the horn that will teach them'

[@satyrosphilbrucato9140]

World War I was one of the most catastrophic events in human history.

[@bowieupland6112]

Yes. And The Usual Suspects who start most wars, started it.

[@martang4497]

Until WW2

[@KeysAndDoorss]

@@bowieupland6112 blacks?

[@matthewjones39]

@@martang4497Which was caused by what? Thats right, Germany losing WW1.

[@martang4497]

@@matthewjones39 You are correct.

[@Robert53area]

First one is from the movie admiral, and is the last stand for the white army.

[@gla9322]

I wish you included Banzai charge charging US Marines with machine guns.

[@dannyzero692]

Marching towards the enemy line is preferred so they could conserve energy for the subsequent fighting, what they do forget is that you should do this during low visibility so they wont gun half your men down before they even reached the first trench

[@arc7296]

The last scene with the girl was depressing lmao

[@Kriegter]

"ha you can shoot me" "Yeah they so stupid" "Oh nevermind"

[@dnfluffles772]

2:12 hey it's Loki.

[@AlwayOnKronickAOK]

If I go to war I’m dressing up as a horse

[@noname.___]

Lmao

[@noname.___]

Lmao

[@gocommitdie7359]

Me too

[@Zohaibdigitalstore]

Horses were killed too

[@deno7343]

That might do the trick... or fighting Stormtroopers...

[@mynamejeb8743]

when my bro tries to make me hear his mixtape on sound cloud

[@jimdickson1969]

Amazing none of the horses got shot in the second clip. Truly great marksmanship.

[@jacquielatruite7541]

Nobody: General: if you guys want to win the war, Don t take a gun or a sword, but please take a tuba and walk on the battlefield.

[@redamonblood5165]

these lads have balls of steel to play instruments while walking towards a wall of machine gun fire

[@trevorvallo5841]

I don't think a marching band will provide the necessary intimidation. Especially if it's a happy tune.

[@stonem0013]

It's to inspire their own side

[@bwc153]

Music is used to keep a rhythm to your own troops so they march in step and stay organized in formation, which was pivotal for both morale and controlling your own forces.

[@loyalpiper]

@olderthangranite black bear intensifies

[@manfredrichthofen2494]

..the marching band was playing the Looney tunes!🎵🎶🎃

[@yahboisquishy5561]

Wouldn't exactly call Farewell of Slavianka a happy tune.

[@receiving9067]

1st vid was actually after machine guns changed war. That was a battle between Red Soviets and White Tzarists during the Russian revolution. The reason the men charged was because they were out of ammo and had no communications, so last ditch effort they charged, which succeeded after they rallied when the nurse was machine gunned

[@bobdadnaila7708]

The name of this movie should be: COME GET SOME!

[@SchnemakiLord2507]

I wouldn't recommend shooting at me cuz your guns goes pew pew my gun goes brrrrrrrrt

[@SKCCP]

Amazing, horses were bullet proof or immortal!!

[@Floofrer]

*sees that Goliath* Shit, here goes that freakin bug

[@LikeUntoBuddha]

I know it is a movie. But when being attacked by Calvary, you always aim for the horses.

[@neilchandavarkar3574]

LikeUnto Buddha not true, the mongols took pride in shooting a rider off his horse, and whoever hit the horse had their bow string cut in disgrace. The Germans also saw horses as a major logistic resource and avoided shooting them if possible.

[@yuritcardenas5080]

The commander ORDER THE ATTACK BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE MORE AMUNITION .THE BETTER PLAN WAS TO HOLD POSITION AND WAIT FOR THE ENEMY.

[@theluiginoidperson1097]

That moment when the Russian's boss music is innfective

[@Furanku13]

Crazy how wars were back then. Standing face to face with a gun pointed at you, no cover at all.

[@coonus1]

Lesson of the day: Never bring a sword to a machine gun fight especially when your up on your high horse 😎😂

[@The_Christian_Cavalier]

Wow I'm laughing so hard. Not

[@jamsheed03]

Imagine being new soldier nervous as hell about your upcoming first battle, you’re praying and trying to psych yourself up just before the fight, and then they hand you a trumpet instead of a rifle 😂

[@ernestogastelum9123]

yeah, thats not how it works. the band soldiers is a designed unit and they dont put random soldiers who dont know how to play the instruments. since they dont know any songs or how to play the notes that can mess up formations

[@brysonrugg323]

Hey you know what would be best in the infantry The world : soldiers Russia : a fraking band

[@jakebertelsen9548]

Can’t believe they didn’t include the Gatling gun scene from ‘The Last Samurai’ in this

[@DilipSingh-cf9kh]

I really feel bad got the soldiers being shot

[@ministryofdeadmemes1764]

alternative title: people realizing that walking into a line of fully automatic weapons all aimed at you is a bad idea

[@MrMustang1973]

Dang...talk about having to rethink your strategy...

[@TaitLawrence-xl2xb]

"Heehee! I'm safe behind this wa-" *Gets shot with a 20mm anti aircraft shell*

[@kmedi666]

the transition; fighting traditional charging ways vs shot and cover period. what a Waste of lifes. No wonder it swallowed huge casualties

[@helloman8541]

They walk up not giving a Sh**

[@baldrickthedungspreader3107]

In the first movie is that based on the Russo-Japanese war, because I’ve heard the imperial Russian troops were still using napoleonic era tactics vastly outdated compared to the standards of most other modern armies, hence why the Japanese won, their tactics were more modern thanks much more significant western influence, if that’s the case then they have really portrayed the Russian side as pretty accurate

[@Wheat777]

Honor can also be defined as high level stupidity.

[@user-ne9oj1tz8l]

Don't bring a Trompete to a Machine Gun Fight ☝🏼

[@atomant2969]

1:45 so did anyone else notice every horse lived 😅😂😂😂 they must of been crack shots to just shoot the soldiers off the horse😂😵

[@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164]

I am going take a guess that marching straight into machine gun and artillery fire is not very tactical. That is the strategy of using the dead bodies of your own troops to perhaps bury the enemy eventually.

[@matthewutech5970]

Ironically, the Whites (the marching bois) won that battle. Though if I had to guess, they probably only won though pure, "wastage'd" manpower; such tactics probably explains why the Whites losted the war in the end.

[@jednymstrzaem4473]

3:20 Warsaw uprising...

[@4C0-q7h]

I feel like it was a war crime to kill the people who play music

[@choppa6506]

Everyone dies 0:03 Lets rock guys!!

[@willmart8066]

It is good to see that horses are bulletproof.

[@samualfartinson7437]

What’s the name of the song the Russian band is playing? I feel like I’ve heard it

[@Kriegter]

Farewell of slavianka

[@eightfifty2309]

MG gunners blasting away at the brass players like “not my tempo”

[@todrkdck9805]

What is this target practice?

[@traderjo9552]

Yea old military tactics were honestly ridiculous, even before machine guns "Ah yes, let us all form a line and slowly march into range, then take turns blasting each other until the other gives up or we all die"

[@jakegyllenrat4443]

The best tactic of all is walking on the front lines while the machine guns shooting at you

[@David-hh8on]

First one was so sad and funny at the same time

[@Watcher-hh4mu]

That musket march towards machine gun fire was just sad to watch... Poor souls didn't have adaptable strategies in an industrialized war.

[@ryzperkranz6670]

They out of ammo that why they charging

[@ronagoodwell2709]

"We're getting shot to pieces!" "Send in the band."

[@sirsmiles1915]

H O W

[@dlyonthescreen2657]

Why would you just walk towards the lines like that

[@addyyang5691]

1. "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." 2. "If you know your enemy and yourself, You need not fear the result of a hundred battles." 3. "If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every Victory gain you will also suffer a defeat." 4. "If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle." - Quote by Sun Tzu the art of War making a strategy like 1700s won't work walking towards the enemy line like that in 1915. It's a machine gun they never learn from their enemies. That's why they were killed easily walking towards the enemy line. They did not learn Sun Tzu Quote thats why they are dumbfounded in war.

[@ernestogastelum9123]

@@addyyang5691 ik im 3 years late, but those walking soldiers actually won the battle

[@norwegianboyee]

I really hate movies that have flashing scenes every 0.2 seconds and shaking camera. It gives me a really bad headache. What happened to movie producers actually letting people see the action that is going on instead of assaulting your senses like this?

[@samsunggris9284]

Take paracetamol

[@michaelherrmann8323]

A genuis military manuver...walk..walk slowly torwards machine gun fire!!! Lol play music while your at it for moral support! Lol!!!

[@raulm1961]

LOL. Good one.

[@shmuelzehavi4940]

@TheWingsofprey No need to be a general in order to have basic common sense.

[@brinsonharris9816]

No horses were harmed in the making of this motion picture. Whole herds of them were cut down in seconds in the actual battle depicted, however. Just keepin it real in the credits, movie fans.

[@sphynxlegacy7195]

2:12 loki

[@Kriegter]

Lol

[@eminum7777]

credits must of had a message of something like "no horses were harmed or killed in the making of this movie. Couple hundred men died however"

[@greatndit]

Last samurai ?

[@cooliobob-q7o]

Underrated

[@joeymcdonald-nd5xm]

That band should be a priority target.

[@alexwhite3158]

I hope no army could have ever been stupid enough as to come marching through with drums and trumpets walking or just running all together in one large dense formation at your adversary. I mean this wasn’t 1780 or something!

[@latch9781]

The War Horse clip is just singularly impactful

[@dejanvranic8833]

This is so meaningless and sad. 😥

[@Kriegter]

Like u

[@dejanvranic8833]

@@Kriegter You really have nothing better to do then insulting random people on internet? really? get a life

[@kwjrwe7wwm421]

Freidheim of Prussia - that was hilarious, I congratulate you.

[@Kriegter]

@@dejanvranic8833 chill There are more soviets killed than every american soldier that had ever been to afghanistan

[@joeyj6808]

I imagine a big apartment building in Hell, with a floor shared by Maxim, Remington, Browning, Vickers, Kalashnikov and all the rest who keep Hell so well-stocked.

[@icetea1455]

whats the name of the last film?

[@vuqar_israfilov]

Warsaw 44. Film about the Warsaw rebelion in 1944

[@icetea1455]

@@vuqar_israfilov ty fam

[@1tulip]

@@vuqar_israfilovYes, thanks

[@Irreversibel]

„And near 6000 warriors, we stopped them on the run. The bravest of the brave could never match the Maxim gun.“

[@ronniefarnsworth6465]

Stupid "ego" warfare of the day !!!! Awful tactics !!!! Semper Fi

[@kpsiex]

He cut a part here, they ran out of ammo and reinforcements wouldn't arrive on time so the only thing they had left to do was to advance the enemy entrenchment.

[@lonzo61]

The brass section of this charging band is small compared to the "steel" section. No wonder they don't sound very good. The steel section makes loud booms, and shows very little range. Worst symphonic performance in memory.

[@markzuckerberg3128]

"Men, walk right towards their machine guns. Don't worry about it. You'll be fine. We'll have drums and tubas playing."

[@ТошкаСухарь-э7и]

Old soviet "Chapayev" movie had it much better

[@ТошкаСухарь-э7и]

Btw, just realized that admiral and chapaev showed same event, so it is fair and obvious comparison