When McDonalds Ruined Batman

Tim Burton's Batman 1989 movies usher in a new age of Superhero movies. Batman was cool again. But also dark and weird and hard to market to children. Warner Brothers were underwhelmed with the performance and reception of Batman Returns but they weren't the only ones. Big brands like McDonalds were also unimpressed and helped paved the way for a different more family friendly version of Batman
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[@robertnope1993]

Anyone who believed lil’ Danny’s answers were his own and not a script handed to him by the show producers or his parents are just the most perfect rubes that any grifter/feat merchant could hope for.

[@AloisWeimar]

I’m sure those rubes have presidential nfts now

[@sbaltys]

you ain't wrong

[@taureantaylor2179]

It's people like you that always downplay the threat of pandemics like "Netflix neck" or "Nintendo-itis".

[@histguy101]

He's probably a straight up actor. Listen to how well spoken this kid is on national TV, but nonetheless he's conveying a message that is true. I saw Robocop, Terminator 1 & 2, Alien & Aliens, Predator, Ghostbusters, Beatlejuice, etc at his age, and there's no way I'd let my own kids watch those at that age now. Maybe 12-14 years old for some of them.

[@randyn1571]

What if hes just that much of a bitch?🤷🏽‍♂️ I've remember knowing kids in middle school that were uptight like poor lil Danny here

[@TechnicolorGhosts]

Carvan of Garbage is fun and all, but these videos where James does a deep dive into a really specific piece of movie history is what I'm really here for.

[@johnwerner69]

Exactly!

[@orionsdimensions]

I second this. We want more, James!

[@jayceneal5273]

caravan of garbage is better

[@ThisIsTheRoad]

I stand with Mason!

[@emosam07]

Agreed! i love these

[@stevenmcd4741]

I was Danny’s age when I saw this movie and for me the most disturbing part was the existential dread I felt when Catwoman said she’d love to live in a big mansion with Bruce, but she just couldn’t live with herself. I still got all the toys though.

[@marvelmaximus7151]

Damn I didn't get that part until much older. What stuck in my mind was always Penguin and Shriek's death. Oh and that weird remote control batmobile part for whatever reason.

[@jtrinidad1884]

When I saw this as child much younger than Danny. I remember my biggest concern was Selina had been resurrected by stray cats. It didn’t even shock me that she just got killed by her boss😅

[@dj.big0]

Yeah sure you were 10 thinking about existential dread 😂 sounds just like Danny making shit up

[@stevenmcd4741]

That comment is what Danny’s parents told me to write.

[@bloodnivel70]

I too encounter existential dread when I hear bullshit excuses that the love interest gives to the hero protagonist

[@haplon33]

exposing a 10 year old to tv talk shows is way more offensive and scarring imo, much less having them be in one as a sock puppet

[@imanassole9421]

I would make a joke about that.. but I think I would get put on a list. .. .. Well another list. 😂

[@sparrowhawk81]

I feel bad for the 10 year old movie critic dude. There's no way those were his words, it sounds like coached stuff from an adult at the height of the Tipper Gore style "wont someone please think of the children" type shit that was going on. Glad to see he managed to grow up and have sex and have a family apparently.

[@Douglas_Props]

It’s the same crap move moms for liberty uses.

[@ScooterinAB]

Same. He was absolutely being fed lines. I wonder if he got in trouble as school or something and his parents were basically blackmailing him to save himself.

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

Kids aren’t that coherent

[@ZedQue]

@@goldenfiberwheat238’total attack against kids’ I don’t remember ever viewing myself as a protected class when I was a kid lol.

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

@@ZedQue I’m agreeing with you

[@William-Morey-Baker]

i feel bad for that kid... having to repeat all of his moms complaints as if they were his own... must have been really uncomfortable....

[@Americarocks64]

It looked like he was reading from a teleprompter

[@VFXShawn]

I was 9 years old when Batman Returns hit theaters, my grandmother took me to see it, and it was the most amazing thing I had ever seen, I loved every minute of it, the music, the visuals, I went home and built myself a giant cape that could spread out like Batman's wing-glider. Thank you grandma!

[@briansager3744]

I don't understand how Danny's parents weren't arrested for letting their 10 year old see a PG-13 film.

[@mafiablokes]

Ok, that’s a bit much mate

[@thoughtbuffet]

@@mafiablokesI think he’s being sarcastic

[@t0k3verse]

​@@thoughtbuffet It's 2023, you can't assume

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

because everyone did back in the day, watch films like robocop and terminator and then produce toys for the kids.

[@Puncherjoe1]

Thug Life.

[@mikechannel5582]

That kid sounded like he was being forced to read a script for a hostage video.

[@matthewstarkie4254]

I want to point out that I had Robocop toys as a kid. And though I didn't have any, I was advertised toys from Terminator, Alien, and Predator. So at least we know all of those are kid's movies 😄

[@alexkelly6449]

You can still get alien and predator action figures surprisingly

[@p.d.l7023]

I got an early Christmas present. It's a figure from the 80s Rambo action figure line from Coleco. I was younger than Danny was there when I saw Rambo. It's a movie. Don't get too upset.

[@rckblzr]

Also Jurassic Park.

[@tomato_dragon9585]

So disappointing that Danny never responded, that would've been really fun to hear from him!

[@TheIslandDivision]

The big Warner Brother, Yakko, must have had a talk with Danny and offered to pay for college in exchange for his silence.

[@nunouno001]

Imagine if this happened with the dark knight. People said it was too dark and macDonalds pulled out their support for the franchise. So WB fires Nolan, Christian Bale drops out, and they hire someone new to make a family friendly TDKR where Batman has to stop Bane and Talia from robbing banks and blowing up Gotham with a giant cartoon bomb with a fuse.

[@nalday2534]

Would've been far better than whatever the hell that garbage dark knight rises was

[@bandawin18]

​@@nalday2534oh please tell me you're trolling with that dumb ass comment

[@kurtshastany1945]

Nolans trilogy was TRASH

[@aolkid121]

​@@kurtshastany1945edgy take loser

[@digitalfiction]

I’d still watch it lol

[@WolfA4]

"A total attack against kids!" Those are without a doubt the words of a 10 year old in 1992. I'm guessing Danny had to be homeschooled after this show aired which would explain why he doesn't have a social media presence.

[@liammclean6047]

Well considering he's now 40+ that could explain why he's not got a current social media presence, and he probably is on Facebook and shit, or was at a time but who knows

[@xxxtkvxxx]

Hypocritical parental outrage in the US is a tale as old as time. We’re against this violence in a fictional movie but not all the violence perpetuated by our government.

[@jonathanjoestar1938]

As long as the violence our government does is far away and we don’t have to see it.

[@thepeps101]

Yeah, Its flaring up again with gta 6

[@yungsteveharv]

@@thepeps101Which is crazy because aren’t the parents of children who would be exposed to GTA VI in the age range of people who would’ve taken work off on the day GTA V came out in 2013?

[@frankcooke1692]

@@thepeps101 I mean... sort of but not really. What those people are really flared up about is a dark-skinned female protagonist. But they are too cowardly to own those opinions in public.

[@thepeps101]

​​@@frankcooke1692dark skinned? She is pretty White lol, even the what i have seen has been about general violence outrage again, just like 4 and 5

[@poolboyinla]

As a kid, I was disappointed in Batman Returns...only because it was no where near as good or cool as the first one. I still feel that way.

[@greazybanana9937]

Since I have to go to work at McDick's in about an hour, that tirade about McDong's corporatism and heartlessness really hit close to home

[@rickjones8005]

Defect to Burger King.

[@mafiablokes]

I know the whole “making a fuck load of toys whenever a film comes out for kids” marketing technique is very insidious, but god damn did I love it as a child back then…

[@spawnofapathy]

It’s the only reason some franchises, like Transformers and He-Man even exist. And why any of them get new modern series or movies made. It’s all done to sell toys and merch.

[@c.kiousis3663]

Me too and I didn't even buy all these licenced toys. I sticked to my Transformers and Lego sets, but I loved when I watched the commercials for all that cool stuff. It instigated my imagination even though I didn't have the toys.

[@DIRTYPLACCY]

⁠@@c.kiousis3663facts I just thought it was cool as a kid like when they used to advertise movies all over supermarkets I remember when shrek came out they made a massive deal about it and had blown up shrek and donkeys everywhere that’s big core memories for me

[@theverticalgamer5660]

Wow what a horrible thing WB did! Thankfully corporate greed never ruined a DC property since then.

[@gabrielboorom2683]

🤭

[@mikeisthelunawolf]

I was 8 years old when Batman Returns came out and I was flabbergasted. I freacking loved the movie and it's still one of my childhood movies!

[@MazeDaGr8]

I swear parental outrage to movies And video games has always been full of crap Also thank you Mcdonald's for being the catalyst to the abomination known as Batman & Robin

[@li-limandragon9287]

Still it was a little disingenuous to market this movie for small children and older fans do have accept Batman is meant for all ages. For me this movie is more disapointing since it wastes Michael so much.

[@jack_rabbit]

​@@li-limandragon9287so frank millers work is for all ages? Arkham asylum is for all ages? A robin being beat to near death with a crowbar, then exploded with dynamite... that is all ages? Or maybe when he got crippled by having his back broken... thats all ages? Or the killing joke... i guess thats all ages? Please get real. Batman started out as a mature character who got bent into the adam west cheese it became, then remolded itself back into its original noir form... and burton is instrumental in trying to return the character to its original spirit in the public consciousness. WB and McDonalds fucked over the fans out of greed and fear.

[@darkstarmedia]

Yes, thank you McDonald's because we wouldn't have gotten the Nolan trilogy if it wasn't for Batman & Robin

[@michaelp2952]

Frogs in a boiling pot

[@histguy101]

We got Batman Returns because 89 Batman was so popular/successful, and Burton got all that creative control. Likewise, we got Batman & Robin because Batman Forever was so popular/successful, and Shumacher got all that creative control. So maybe it's just good business practice for execs to exert a little more control on these eccentric directors, hold the leash a little tighter

[@Brazdon83]

"Parents trust McDonalds" LOL I wasn't ready for that and raspberried my coffee on my desk

[@BarryJMurphy]

Here's a parenting from the 90's story. My mam brought my brother and I to a small local cinema to see this when it was released. The theatre was about a 5 min walk from our house. I was 6, and my brother was 3. My brother didn't really like the movie from the start but the scene where Penguin bit that dudes nose absolutely sent him. He went into hysterics. Screaming like a lunatic. My mam end up taking him home and left me, a 6 year old to stay in theatre and watch the movie. She came back 30 mins later after dropping him home to my dad.

[@kikphlip1080]

I know he's Australian, but when James said "tortiLa", a little bat-shaped tortilla piece of me died

[@Aleheeez]

Damn I didn't realize how much I missed this type of video on this channel. I adore Caravan of Garbage but this felt real nice and fresh. Hope we continue to get these more regularly!

[@momsberettas9576]

The glass mugs from McDonalds with 3d sculpted batman characters on them were legit.

[@chadarcher13]

that was for Batman Forever but yeah, they were legit

[@rig-zag]

I really want to see the commercial where Batman violently apprehends the Hamburglar and mistakes Ronald McDonald for the Joker and subdues him with excessive force. 😂

[@jeffwhite7158]

The kid critic is TEN, it's rated PG-13. If you're going to act all sanctimonious, then maybe don't send a kid that's under the age limit to review it.

[@brews.n.bits.]

"Air hockey and cigarettes" 😂😂 James I think you're my favourite creator, thank you and Maso for making me laugh for years.

[@CraigNull]

8:30 TIL Whenever there's a cross-promotion it does not mean either participating company actually promotes the other company's product

[@groovymovies390]

Funnily enough, I was rewatching the Batman Returns Caravan of Garbage episode today, and when this video was mentioned in it, I thought to myself, "Hey, this episode came out like 8 months ago, did he ever release the video about the McDonald's controversy?" and low and behold, this turned up.

[@Amouroso]

Such a treat when we get these types of videos from this channel. James’ writing and voice over is always so engaging. Thanks James + the editing super-team

[@josephkolar3443]

This was the first PG-13 movie I was allowed to watch. I absolutely loved it even if Penguin biting the guy’s nose and killing one of his own henchmen freaked me out way too much. We had tons of toys and merch, including the McDonalds toys and cups. I had friends who had even more stuff.

[@TheArtofKAS]

The best part about this video is Danny DeVito talking about one of the best cutaway gags that we'll never see in Always Sunny. 😭 Awesome work James.

[@gazl7356]

I'm 40 and I remember watching this at the cinema with my parents and loving it

[@CR41489]

I love your pronunciation of tortilla chips. 😂

[@Mewchu14]

I like to imagine that Mason is present during these videos and just watching in silent horror as James just unloads a cascade of unwanted info on him

[@stevonico]

“A boardroom full of ghouls” 😂

[@jerrodhall1]

I don't remember any of that backlash. I was nine years old at the time, and I was in love with that movie. I saw it like three times in theaters that summer. Luckily, my Uncle was the assistant manager of the theater at that time, and I could see movies for free.

[@nerdtuga9180]

"Parents trust McDonald's!" Well that was their mistake XD

[@TacticusPrime]

And this was post-Watergate. People couldn't have been actually so naive.

[@garrett1682]

I watched Batman Returns religiously as a 6-10 year old and I thought it was pretty badass not scary

[@mmmghool]

Nice video. This one and Batman & Robin were always my fave as a kid. Catwoman scratching the "Hello There" sign in her apartment into "Hell Here" was a really cool part that always stuck with me

[@DoubleO7-11]

Plot twist: Danny was named after Danny Devito 🤯

[@Caveboy0]

Hypothetically someone not me around 6 or 7 years old absolutely loved how Penguin emerged vomited black bile and collapsing. I thought I mean this person thought it was real cool.

[@alexanderforbes1452]

You remember Robocop getting a bunch of toys and a kid's cartoon? You remember Robocop featuring a guy getting disassembled by a shotgun and another guy turning into paste when he's hit by a car?

[@harrisy98]

I love how “#StarWars” and “#Ahsoka” are the only things tagged in this video and they’re never mentioned whatsoever 😂

[@micshork]

Funny enough a similar thing happened between Small Soldiers and Burger King as they were upset that the movie got a PG-13 rating. This caused multiple Burger King locations to pull the toys that they were originally offering.

[@NextToToddliness]

I loved this movie as a small kid. I was much younger than Danny, and didn't cry like a little bee'otch.

[@missourigreen051]

I get what you mean, I was only 6 when I saw it in a movie theater and I remember being disturbed by Penguin biting that guy's nose and towards the end when it looks like black blood is coming out of the Penguin's mouth when he came out of the water like that, but other then that I liked it when I watched it for the first time and I remember wanting to see it again (those 2 parts didn't tramautize me and I didn't cry over it, it was more like I didn't expect to see it and got use to those scenes after seeing the movie more then once).

[@azv343]

Danny is the teacher's pet who grew up to be just another office worker that's endlessly in debt

[@bendudley2387]

Wow, hadn't thought about that Batman Forever burger commercial at 10:04 in decades but I remembered every beat of it. One of those hidden memories.

[@slothomatic]

I was in High School and I vividly remember every one of those commercials you showed. The one in particular, with the bat boat shooting the dock with the villains on it, was apparently a deeply buried core memory, and when I saw it in this video I flashed back so hard that I briefly reinhabited the body and time of my younger self. It was weird, but nice. I even smelled my living room.

[@Adua2000]

I love these video essays! While still being entertaining, they're informative about a topic I find fascinating, but wouldn't necessarily stumble upon on my own. My favorite is the one about the stolen Spider Man suits. The editing is phenomenal as always, and I know these probably take more time than a Caravan of Garbage, so I wanted to voice my appreciation!

[@Marksman3434]

The 90s were kinda crazy. They had toys for kids based even on R-rated franchises like Terminator and Alien.

[@nobetternickname]

haha i thought it was going to be a guest presenter when the initial news reporter started talking

[@alexpollock6932]

I used to watch this movie all the time as a kid. I once brought it into school cause my second grade teacher told us to bring in a movie and the class would vote on which one to watch. She pulled me aside a little later and said “I think this movie is just a little too dark for the rest of the class” and gave me back the tape. Watched it recently, and it’s still a great movie.

[@aldraone-mu5yg]

“Played Tik Tac Toe on a man’s face” great line.

[@EasyCure0]

So Danny definitely memorized a speech written by his parents (or another adult) to grift right? I'm sure that's universally agreed upon?

[@thisisfyne]

7:34 to 8;03 Absolutely my dude. Truer words have never been spoken.

[@luckyspurs]

7:13 James looked slightly cooler at that age than I was expecting.

[@LavaChip]

My god this movie has stood the test of time. I remember this video game being everywhere as a kid. As an adult this movie is a masterpiece!

[@taureantaylor2179]

Oh my gosh! I distinctly remember having Batman returns boxer shorts in 1992..and wearing them to school like actual shorts.

[@c.kiousis3663]

This Penguin was my favoruite version even as a kid. Yeah he was spooky but come on, kids deserve some soft horror too.And Tim Burton knew how to deliver it.

[@tonycorr4063]

Yeeeeeees. I’ve been waiting for another James editorial/video essay for ever. The big sandwich gods have delivered

[@jacktoma21]

Batman Returns was the first Batman movie I watched all the way through as a kid. I remember there were scenes that scared me like the Penguin biting the guys nose and Max Shreck’s charred corpse but I remember likening it overall so much that I kept rewatching it and just looked away during those scenes

[@s1ckboirari]

There's a weird part of me that misses just getting toys shoved down my throat as being a by-product of whatever I loved as a kid, Im glad to hear that toy sales were huge for the latest TMNT, Alan Moore is one of my favourite writers but his stuff was baloney compared to my 8 year old self's brain while playing with Spider-Man AND He-Man AND Batman.. AND that sticky fart sound making putty we all had and that mysteriously went missing one day

[@Person-wz6iy]

Now a days we market PG-13 films to kids all the time, and nobody bats an eye. As we have grown since 1992, and now we truly remember that a child can watch a PG-13 movie, or 12A in the UK, as long as they're with an adult.

[@_TheShowStopper]

It's wild to hear about "the outrage" now that I'm older! 😂 I literally have nothing but amazing memories of Batman and Batman Returns!

[@JeffCorcelius]

I was 12 yr old comic book nerd when this came out and I thought Returns was better than the 1989. I was blown away. The next summer I’d see Jurassic Park the day it came out and I’d be all about movies for the rest of my life. The 90s were some wild times for movies music and more.

[@TheCheat420]

I can't believe Mason was so scared by The Penguin!

[@JohnSmith-vf3vl]

There is no way that kid was not mercilessly bullied for going on a talk show and saying how scared he was of a batman movie. Poor kid

[@JOK3RSON]

Imma say as a kid I was annoyed my Penguin action figure didn't look like he did in the movie.. I think kids are a bit more able to handle scary stuff then we give em credit for.

[@zeyd3632]

How did I forget James makes actual KZbin videos too and not just unhinged podcasts

[@jamesglatthaar4594]

Man I always enjoy when James does a video where he researches a niche thing that he j enjoys and talks about that

[@lawrenceblunden428]

Gotta give props to the kid, not many kids his age could follow a script that well.

[@CrownRoyal007]

Hot Take: Lets all agree that Ronald McDonald & his nightmarish posse is possibly more terrifying than all of the villians in Batman Returns 😂😂 So of course let's send them the kiddies to McD's Also as a Canuck, i thank you for mentioning Canada 🇨🇦, so many channels when talking about Box office, trends etc. The focus is always just on the US/US Box Office.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Kind of hypocritical for them to say that the movie was too scary and violent to be commercialized, when nobody had a problem, selling action figures of Terminator, Predator and RoboCop.

[@gofigure6251]

I remember this controversy and how at 11 I thought Danny was so so controlled FREE DANNY!!!

[@Star_Wars_With_PercyMan]

Nice to see a classic style Mr. Sunday Movies video!

[@novakrabby]

Similar to the Pokemon Porygon debacle in japan In my home country Bolivia we had a similar problem after a kid (around 8 years old) jumped from a second floor claiming to his little brother he was a Pidgeotto (a flying creature) The obviously died and there some push from the government and parents alike to ban the Pokemon anime from TV My mother was forced to go into one of these meetings where she a claimed a derranged priest was screaming telling parents to not let kids watch ANY tv show, even the Flinstones She left half walf through the meeting as she knew all of this was stupid

[@nutsandgum]

Pidgeotto is literally a bird pokemon. It would genuinely be no different then taking inspiration from a sparrow and jumping off a building. Makes no sense.

[@videogamenostalgia]

Did they ever find out whether he was a Pidgeotto?

[@danielellyot]

More absolute proof that fast food companies shouldn't do merch for movies. Great work James!!!!

[@filipratkovic5561]

Yes, but let us not forget when Mr Sunday Movies ruined Batman in BvS by making the video of all the times Batman killed and shoving it into Zack's face

[@craigrussell3062]

I was 12 when this movie came out. I found some parts of it truly disturbing and unsettling. It's an experience I think every kid deserves to have. Safe movies that don't get under your skin (like, say, Batman Forever) are qualitatively worse than movies that do.

[@aldraone-mu5yg]

Honey I shrunk the Batman? That would actually be really interesting.

[@nerdwarp112]

I actually had the McDonald’s Penguin toy. I wasn’t alive when it came out, but when I was a kid my friend’s grandpa had brought a bunch of old toys and collectibles for the kids there, and that was one of them.

[@kellywilliam3708]

I was more traumatized by McDonald's food and that fuckin' clown than I was by Batman Returns Except for the nose biting scene, that fucked me up too

[@Hnter2200]

Absolutely love the Videos where you can tell James really puts effort into an Essay upload.

[@DisobedientSpaceWhale]

I love original Keaton Batman, but not keen on Returns (didn't like it much as a kid, either). I think if the sequels had leaned into the humour a bit more akin to Adam West Batman rather than just being camp and neon alone it might have worked for everyone. Might.

[@ramontrevi10]

Missed these kind of videos! Keep 'em coming

[@J.O.R.D]

Its been a while since we've had a solo James video and then I remember Maso is still a tram driver by day😅

[@Sisren86]

Even as a kid, I remember watching commercials and wondering why in the world Batman, Ninja Turtles, Terminator and such had these weird guns and lasers and jetpacks and whatnot. But then...I was also a kid that watched Batman Returns and T2 without being emotionally or mentally scarred. So...yeah. SIDE NOTE: Remember in these commercials when they would always have those cool walls of transparent blocks that they would shoot through or run the car through? Was anyone else extremely jealous of this?

[@t0k3verse]

I was 8 when this came out and I fucking loved it! It's still my favourite solo Batman movie 33 years later 🧡🦇🐈‍⬛️🐧🧡

[@have345]

You gotta love a good oh Mr. Sunday movies video essay about something no one really cares about until you realize you do because this guy is talking about it, I reckon

[@LucasBenderChannel]

The footage was really interesting to see! Especially for someone who wasn't alive at that time :)

[@ivoreategui781]

Every grim, dark, serious and dismal Batman movies since 1989 should be rated R movies. Many modern Batman comic books are not able to be PG-13 movies.

[@hesthatguy]

I was 6 years old when Batman Returns came out. I wanted to go see it more than anything in the world because of how much I loved Batman 1989. Batman Returns fucked me right up.

[@matthewgibson27]

I remember wanting to see this so badly as a kid. "Its not for kids" my Mom said. " But its a Batman movie!" I argued to no avail. Granted we did get Batman: The Animated Series in exchange. I was still upset , but Returns is a freaking classic. No one got it at the time. I was all in for Batman Forever though. I still have the McDonalds glasses!

[@johnwerner69]

I had so many toys from batman returns and absolutely loved that movie even though i was a bit scared of the penguin. I always thought the first batman movie was way scarier because of the Joker.

[@XxAramisxX]

Batman Returns was no more violent or dark than the original Batman. People conveniently gloss over the Joker murdering Grissom, dozens of people in the museum, Alicia’s scarred face, Rotelli burning alive, the charred corpse, etc.

[@kingfield99]

I was a small child of 19 when this came out and I can echo Danny's words, I too was horrified, disgusted and also a bit horny.

[@ghIIItrooper]

So funny to see fast food prices from the 90s. For reference, a Big Mac Meal back the. was 2.99, and you could super size it for an extra 39 cents. Where I live, a Big Mac Meal (not large) will run about thirteen dollars now.

[@Officialchancellorpalpatine]

No prep time could save Batman this time