When might Ukraine run out of artillery and how many rounds can the US give to Ukraine?

[@matejsochor1673]

There is a huge issue with the numbers - you seem to mostly only count what countries send from the stockpiles of their armies, but that's nowhere near the full picture. For example, my country (Czechia) sent around a dozen tanks from army stockpiles, while our military industry is selling them NINETY tanks, to be modernized and delivered within a few months. That's eight times what our army sent. An even more lopsided example is Bulgaria. It has big defense industry, mostly still making Soviet-style weapons and ammo. And while the country itself didn't officially send anything up until a few weeks ago, artillery shells and other supplies of its make have been found in Ukraine plenty of times. The official figures are thus likely extremely understated, especially in Europe.

[@VibeMetrics]

Yup.

[@andrasbeke3012]

Yeah, but those tanks are all rotting in graveyards. You can renovate a tank, but you cant renovate ammunition. Old, poorly stored munitions are very dangerous. Ask the dutch army. They bought shitty old grenades from the bulgarians and got some of their soldiers killed

[@teaser6089]

@@andrasbeke3012 yeah that was an major oopsie. However when companies sell ammo it is usually stored correctly, cause well else you go bankrupt real quick.

[@drsnypejsek]

Yes, Czechs got one Leopard, the piece which Germans originally have used for testing, drowned, brought out from the river, repaired... And how long will take manufacturing promised Leopards without Russian metal and energy supplies...?

[@CountryLifestyle2023]

His numbers are never accurate. It would be near impossible to get accurate numbers. More of a round numbers, estimates. Don't take it as facts just educated guesses by 1 person

[@pbanthonyv]

Those 155 rounds are like $400 a pop. At $4,000 any company with even the slightest ability to make them would be shitting over the contracts, and that still only works out to $4B per 1M rounds. If US and co are serious there's basically no limit to how many rounds it can deliver.

[@teahousereloaded]

Yep, unlike Russia, Europe (Germany or Britain alone) has ridiculous production capabilities that can be set up to produce rounds if necessary.

[@The_Judge300]

@@teahousereloaded Even Norway are able to produce lots of 155mm rounds. For now they are specializing in making 155mm IM HE-ER rounds, but I am sure they can easily increase their production of 155mm IM HE-ER rounds or produce normal 155mm rounds if needed. And there are countries like Bulgaria that can make lots of 122mm and 152mm rounds for the older Soviet era artillery the Ukrainian forces still have.

[@natehicks8323]

Europe is de-industrialized. You have no ability to produce anything but welfare checks for African immigrants.

[@benjamin2149]

For Germany I may add, that we are sending hugely expensive smart ammo to complement the role of the PzH2000 as a "sniper tool". So comparing numbers is only part of the picture. Also showing the value of the shell deliveries would have been interesting.

[@MoroccoBall111]

As A Iranian Arab Muslim I Support Ukraine Sorry ukraine for the drone's we are with you 🇮🇷 🇺🇦 🇮🇷 🇸🇦 🇮🇶 🇶🇦 🇵🇸 🇱🇾 ❤🇺🇦

[@ZK-ff2ru]

@@MoroccoBall111 The arab world supports russia

[@tim4570]

@@ZK-ff2ru The Arab Governments support Russia, not the people. Most Arabs see Russia invading Ukraine as similar to Israel invading Palestine

[@MajkelPCLabpl]

@@ZK-ff2ru or their governments?

[@RyanHellyer]

I would have never guessed that a war on an area the size of Ukraine could drain the world stockpile of artillery rounds. I assumed that was something we had an ungodly number of and were never at any risk of running out of.

[@jebise1126]

actually usa did not rely so much on artillery so it makes sense that they have less shells. the same with rest of nato. russia uses a lot more of artillery hence more stock.

[@iljavija]

Binkov is shilling for Russia now. His stuff is best when he works with fictional scenarios not reality of combat.

[@MasterBlasterSr]

Ukraine is slightly smaller than the size of texas, it takes a lot of arty to go on the attack, and texas is larger than France. the front line is approximately 400 miles long, the same it would have been if we fought the USSR back in the 80s.

[@MoroccoBall111]

As A Iranian Arab Muslim I Support Ukraine Sorry ukraine for the drone's we are with you 🇮🇷 🇺🇦 🇮🇷 🇸🇦 🇮🇶 🇶🇦 🇵🇸 ❤🇺🇦

[@start2957]

@@MoroccoBall111 you're delusional.. you would not support ukraine if you were a true Iranian

[@Conan-ny1um]

I have read in multiple sources that USA has increased its production and within 6mths they will be able to produce over 50k 155mm a month. And the Excalibur rounds somewhere between 1500-2000 rds a month. What matter is the GMLRS M1A1 - M1A2 Rockets 🚀 for Himars! It’s estimated that usa has 40k crates of rockets. That’s 6 rockets per case. And now that they have shifted to the A2 version which has a airburst warhead that covers up to a half a KM with 182000 tungsten pellets that can penetrate light armor, but just eradicates the orc infantry. So Ukraine is fine the Russian will run back to Moscow long before they run out of 155mm arty and Himars rockets.

[@Conan-ny1um]

@@ChadetVlad 50km crates of rockets. A crate has 6 rockets. So when usa says then sent 1000 GMLRS rockets to Ukraine. It’s actually 6000 rockets. And USA wants to get rid of the GMLRS rockets because production has started on the new precision strike Missle that will replace these. And they still have ATACMS they could give ukrajen

[@Conan-ny1um]

@Apsoy Pike not really Ukraine is using a lot of Excalibur rounds which hit the target 100% of the time look at the videos on it hitting Russian tanks etc. so instead a of shooting 20-50 155 rds one Excalibur round destroyed the target

[@LtSich]

@Apsoy Pike And if Ukraine is loosing too much the west will stop providing weapon... Probably that most weapon send are sell and not given... If Ukraine can't pay back we will stop sending weapon for sure...

[@olegbobrovskiy3244]

@Apsoy Pike 200k a month

[@mrbombastic8097]

Ukrainian has a dozen HIMARS that's a laughable number to begin with, it is not a replacement for good old artillery not in volume, scale or role

[@r.blakehole932]

I would be willing to bet the artillery in Ukraine runs out of barrels before running out of shells. For the British M777 the barrel life is supposedly around 2500 shells depending upon a lot of variables. Also keep in mind that life in the field is A LOT harder on equipment than life on the training ground.

[@hieronymusjacabusprincepso5060]

Amazing observation. Heres another US believe investments in Uke give them $12 per dead Uke.'

[@CitiesTurnedToDust]

The Russians have the same problem, only much worse -- which is one of the reasons why their artillery keeps landing shorter and shorter and keeps hitting their own troops.

[@hhkk6155]

German PZF artillery is being damaged only after a couple of days spamming 100 rounds per day. German quality I guess (((

[@andynct]

More barrels have been supplied and are being made.

[@petedallas3044]

Equipment is being serviced, no need to worry. When is putin going to listen to russian Mothers and sons and daughters who say they don't want to die for putins cause?

[@מ.מ-ה9ד]

*And remember!* *Binkov may talk about real wars, but only hypothetical peace can bring us all together.*

[@petedallas3044]

Seriously! Have a go at trying to make videos that bring us together then Binkov

[@liggrod67]

Love that, 👍

[@מ.מ-ה9ד]

@djames2022 You are not very smart, aren't you?

[@petedallas3044]

@D James Is your statement based on your opinion or fact, I'm interested! If it's fact, where are you finding these facts? Can you also clarify what you mean by the west please, do you mean western russia?

[@petedallas3044]

@D James What do you mean "game"? putin's killing is real?

[@jwahnmike]

So that's why US Department of Defence was negotiating a deal with South Korea regarding 155mm Shells.

[@MariusEidem]

I've seen news reports of at least one ammo plant that have doubled their production already. Specifically to produce shells for Ukraine. Artillery shells aren't really _that_ hard to make.

[@Donkeyearsa]

China still has to deal with crossing the Taiwan Strait with zero experience with a beach invasion and military officers that got their positions due to politics and not due to competence in commanding the military in combat. The losses Russia took is nothing to what China will take just trying to cross the Taiwan Strait before getting troops and war materials into actual combat with the Taiwan military. The only chance China actually has is to launch guided missiles by the tens if not the hundreds of thousands into Taiwan's cities and hope that Taiwan surrenders and does not need to send the Chinses military into any actual combat across the Taiwan Strait.

[@eliasziad7864]

Same for Russia.

[@MrCastodian]

@@Donkeyearsa You should try to read up on Chinas military, experts really don’t agree with you :p

[@datbestaatnietbestaatniet9086]

@@MrCastodian Haha the pasific fleet of the us will destroy china hands down......

[@john_in_phoenix]

It's been nearly 40 years, but when I worked for the Army Materials Command (yes, AMC is real) the ability to scale or ramp up production was certainly invested in. Given a year, the ability to produce more 155mm shells is astounding and would primarily be limited by funding. I know they have been sending 105mm shells and artillery pieces to get the time needed to ramp production, but I have no doubt that there will not be a problem in the near future.

[@daivdsmith3746]

I noticed that the video seemed to omit the notion that if America wants to it can become a juggernaut in manufacturing if support is strong enough. Thanks for the enlightening comment!

[@pogo1140]

Just a matter of the Republicans in the providing the money.

[@john_in_phoenix]

@@pogo1140 Yes, it's always been so difficult to get Republicans to spend more money on the military, eh?

[@Adam-mf9cl]

@@daivdsmith3746 no it really can’t.. The US sent all of its spare capacity overseas years ago and told all its young people to go to college, which drastically cut the pool of willing and capable workers for manufacturing positions.. Heck, there’s been a big push to reinvigorate the Trades and they’re have a hell of a time finding qualified workers. Good luck adding capacity without Tradesmen..

[@Adam-mf9cl]

40 years ago was a different era. The USA was still a net exporter of manufactured goods. Now we only net export Dollars..

[@Ruthless_entertainment]

USA's economy/military industrial complexes can supply ukraine as long as it is in USA's interest, but the question is how long Russia can sustain a proxy war with the west. I guess no so long

[@ItsJoKeZ]

thank you for making his video pointless, as most are these days.

[@leto.o5759]

That does not make sense at all, for us production needs a few years to increase. Such a disadvantage over a few years will result in loss of the war.

[@michaelpurdon7032]

There is an upper limit on how many rounds they can make, it's not magic and they aren't on a total war footing

[@kordellswoffer1520]

@@leto.o5759 that's untrue. The US production is capable of increasing within months.

[@aceofspadez131]

Now how do we know that those numbers are 100% accurate? I'll tell you right now If I had to worry about a gun fight with a powerful enemy I wouldn't let them know exactly how many rounds I'm bringing to the fight.

[@FrankinDallas]

The US military long ago realized it would never be fighting on US soil using artillery, so it mothballed most of it's artillery equipment and never bulked up again. So to say is the US running out of artillery rounds is irrelevant as it didn't have many to begin with, as opposed to the Russians who needs to have deterrants to a ground war on it's soil. Therefore Russia's artillery stocks have always been mush higher than the US's inventory.

[@Brahmdagh]

Pakistan has also been providing 155mm shells. There's been an unusual number of British Galaxy cargo planes flying constantly from Pakistan to Romania. And we also have a tiktok from Ukrainian soldiers showing them.

[@MoroccoBall111]

As A Iranian Arab Muslim, I Support Ukraine Sorry ukraine for the drone's we are with you 🇮🇷 🇺🇦 🇮🇷 🇸🇦 🇮🇶 🇶🇦 🇵🇸 🇱🇾 ❤🇺🇦

[@petersouthernboy6327]

The US has contracted with South Korea to produce excellent quality 155mm howitzer ammunition

[@thomasandersson3004]

Sweden will/has sent approx. 50 000 artillery rounds to Ukraina. On August 31, the Swedish government decided to give a seventh military support package of 500 million SEK to Ukraine The support package consists of artillery ammunition (one 155 mm artillery round will cost approx. 10 000 SEK).

[@johanlundberg8449]

In the beginning of the battle of the Somme the British fired 1.5 million artillery rounds in just four days.

[@andynct]

Ignoring other sources of supplies of ammunition and accelerating production. France, Belgium, Turkey, Norway, UK, Pakistan are all ramping up production of 155mm. Czech, Bulgaria, Romania, Egypt and are ramping up 152mm production for Ukraine. Countries like South Africa are ramping up production of 155mm to replenish NATO stocks.

[@exo068]

Many countries in Europe are ramping up production and something not really considered is that smart rounds haven’t really been sent in larger numbers. These are still untouched in Europe and could also be sent to Ukraine but they are mostly specialized so can’t be used against all types of targets.

[@crazychase98]

@@exo068 Expensive very advanced and there's not enough chips to make them. America's already used way to many resources against russian.

[@garynew9637]

@@crazychase98 you might be right.

[@nehorlavazapalka]

@@crazychase98 nonsense, the US has 100 000 PGK and ~ 20 000 Excalibur + BONUS and it sent only about 10 000 total

[@Zynischerboomer]

i would bet that RU runs out of ammo months before the UA. Worst Case? We start some reshifts in our Industry and outproduce the RU by 100:1. As a German let me tell you how hard it is to have a race in military production against the production of the world ...

[@rogersmith7396]

You guys might give it a try. You seemed to have little problem with it in the 40s.

[@legaspichristiani5694]

@@rogersmith7396 he's coming from their experience

[@targetaps]

Oof.

[@planetmikusha5898]

S.Korea just came online as a supplier of 155 mm shells to the US which will ship to Ukraine. Also Ukraine 152 mm and 122 mm shells for Soviet era guns. Kherson and Kharkiv offenses brought tens of thousands of shells into the Ukrainian inventory.

[@jebise1126]

🤣ukraine showing few shells again and again... i wonder if they dont actually show their own shells and claim it was what russia left. with ghost of kiev and such stories every day ukraine is more like trump. big mouth just empty words.

[@waltonsimons9082]

@@jebise1126 1 ruble has been deposited to your account, Ivanovich.

[@jebise1126]

didnt south korea said 150k? so... yeah not so much...

[@jebise1126]

@@waltonsimons9082 thanks 🥰

[@Dorkimoo]

@@jebise1126 And still driving Russia East. What does that say about Russians…

[@lynngreydanus-smith8816]

I would like to point out that the nato standard 155 arty round is manufactured in all nato countries. If needed production globally can ramp much higher than indicated in this video.

[@Writeous0ne]

there is a huge difference between giving someone munitions and manufacturing munitions for them, though.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

Yes, but will they pay for Americas war ?

[@msimon6808]

@@jacobjorgenson9285 America has a $20 trillion economy. The war costs about $100 million a year. 0.5% of GDP is a rounding error.

[@msimon6808]

$100 billion a year.

[@briant5685]

russia standard shells are also produced in all its allies and csto countries

[@nehorlavazapalka]

It is important to remember that millions! of 152 and 122 mm rounds/rockets were lost in Russian sabotage actions (stockpile explosions) in the Czech Republic, Bulgaria and Ukraine (2014 - 2021).

[@SaxyPlayer96]

I would wager most of those old US stocks (11 million rounds) that weren't cluster munitions didn't just disappear. Retired, sure. But still sitting in a warehouse until needed or able to be sold.

[@patclark2186]

Thank God for Snake and Nape.

[@zemog1025]

155 is pretty much what the rest of the world uses outside of those 152 supplied by Russia, even China, there is going to be no shortage of 155

[@gordonjohnson405]

A 155 is not special. It is just a bigger bullet, albeit one without a cartridge. I can tell you from personal experience that all but certain specialty rounds use the exactly the same components as the rest of US ammunition.

[@TheoEvian]

This analysis is based on a fundamental assumption: only ammo that Ukraine gets is that is donated by the allies and the only production capacity that is involved is the US one. These assumptions are not true: there might easilly be very extensive agreements between UA and several European producers (such as those in Slovakia) and in countries like Pakistan that are happy to sell their stuff to UA. I have reasons to believe that this is very likely. Thus the ammo supplies to UA might be far larger than the numbers presented in the video. From what I know about the production capacities of Russia and all the countries that are willing to supply Ukraine I am almost sure it is Russia who runs out first.

[@benjamin2149]

To make it clear: Europe + the US + other allies are absolutely able to produce the supply needed for such a comparably small scale war. The only question is if combined production can be ramped up before stocks run low. And honestly. For the combined industrial power of the countries supporting UK it should not be much of a stretch. Yes Europe hasn't send large stocks of dumb shells, but the production capacity of Europe alone is higher as in the US. Plus there is the buying power to buy from third parties all over the world.

[@kurtwicklund8901]

Bulgaria is supposedly producing the 152mm for Ukraine's legacy systems.

[@TheoEvian]

@@kurtwicklund8901 Not only Bulgaria, there are a few other companies that do it. This is why Czech companies such as Explosia were recently sanctioned by Russia. I have only cursory knowledge of the ammo production field (some family members work in related industries etc.) but afaik there should be at least 4 companies that produce it in former Warsaw Pact countries.

[@TheoEvian]

@@benjamin2149 Some time ago I read about a Slovak company expanding production of 155 mm, if I remember correctly, to up to 250k per year in a year or two. Ramping up production might not be such a problem.

[@LtSich]

@@benjamin2149 Europe is facing big economy crisis... People won't accept to support Ukraine with their money when they can't even afford to heat their houses...

[@metalman6708]

This is what we're GIFTING them. Not what we're selling them.

[@Pao234_]

@@lobbyskids2 Still, you pay for a gift before you gift it

[@metalman6708]

@@lobbyskids2 Absolutely. My point being the numbers he's listing are only a fraction of what's actually being sent to ukraine. Countries have been just giving ukraine stuff we already had out of our own stockpiles. But we're also currently making a bunch of rounds that they are buying from us. The numbers he lists in this video is the stop-gap numbers until everything else is manufactured.

[@metalman6708]

@@lobbyskids2 So it's a win-win in their eyes. Ukraine gets stuff that it already knows how to use to fight Russia for us so we can focus on China in the future. It gets rid of countries aging stockpiles of soviet junk and then all those places that sent weapons will now be big customers for the US. Poland ordering 250 Abram's for example.

[@bittersweet7145]

For all the talk of the US and NATO countries running out of ammunition with their immense industrial capacities, think how badly Russia are going to be doing on the same timescale. They're already buying up missiles, drones and ammunition from Allies (with their shrinking wealth I might add) - and having to navigate their shocking logistics to get those to the frontline. Personally I imagine the Russians will run out first.

[@DanielBrown-sn9op]

Allies?

[@CitiesTurnedToDust]

@@DanielBrown-sn9op Iran, North Korea, i.e. the other pariah states.

[@loganknezovich8394]

Where are you getting this information from? The Russians won't run out of any missiles, drones, or ammunition, like seriously you honestly think the 3rd largest military in the world is going to magically run out of ammo? How long have we been saying that? For like 4 months now? Russia just launched 70 more missiles on Ukraine today and knocked out another major sector of their energy grid today despite the fact they were supposed to run out of those months ago, also according to Ukraine's own data Russia has fired 3,500 missiles and drones on Ukraine, and believe me Russia has thousands more they can send, and to think otherwise is naive to say the least, and Russia isn't going to run out of drones either, infact they bought the Iranian drones to test their combat effectiveness and have deemed them quite effective so now they are producing their own version called the Lancet and it is decimating Ukrainian equipment and Russia just started producing it, and trust me, these drones are extremely cheap compared to other military equipment, they cost only about 20k dollars to produce and can effectively take out equipment that costs hundreds of thousands to produce, not to mention these things are insanely easy to make so the potential for mass production is quite big, and believe me Russia will mass produce these drones because of how effective they are, how cheap they are, and how easy they are to make, because as of right now Ukraine and Nato don't have a solution to deal with these drones, like honestly why waste manpower when you could just send in waves of drones to destroy equipment and defensive positions? Which is what the Russians are doing right now, the only reason these drones aren't making as big of an impact as they have the potential for is because as I already stated Russia is just now producing them and when they begin to ramp up production massively (which they will) the true combat effectiveness of these drones will begin to shine, because sending in waves of these consisting of hundreds at a time will completely overwhelm Ukrainian air defenses and can wreck havoc on Ukraine, as we are already seeing, trust me in the next coming months Ukraine will suffer massively because how can Ukraine survive the brutal winter with no energy infastructure? Not even taking into consideration that Russia has already destroyed a massive portion of Ukraines fuel depots, so how effective will their troops be without heating, fuel, and how will you transport food to the troops without fuel?

[@tetraxis3011]

The "buying" of allied missiles is either to help sustain said allies(North Korea) or as part of a Trade deal, like Iran, who will get 64 Su35s

[@_-Wade-_]

What shrinking wealth? Ruble at 5yr high. They're also sstill selling their oil and gas to EU and sending to 3rd parties for trans-shipment to the west.

[@tiexiaowang7939]

PSA, despite all of the Japanese branding, Kamikoto knives are actually made in China and not of high carbon steel

[@ilikedota5]

Shadiversity did a good video thoroughly discrediting them. The origin of the steel doesn't matter, the grade does. His conclusion basically is that these are cheap serviceable knives pretending to be high quality stuff. That being said they are shady af.

[@4Usuality]

By the time the us runs out of 155mm Russia will run out of 9 mm

[@knpark2025]

Ukrainian artillery: You can't supply me NATO: No, I know. But he can. South Korea: "Sells" 100k shells to the United States Consequences be damned, Russians asked for it when they bought their shells from the other Korea.

[@ttrruaminpn5755]

Well South Korea hoarding 7.8 million rounds of 105mm and 155mm so why not make some money selling older rounds.

[@cryptosamet3536]

@@ttrruaminpn5755 south korea already sold so many NEW rounds to other countries . They dont need to sell older ones .

[@vasilzahariev5741]

You're not taking into account the production of Soviet calibers. Former Warsaw Pact countries, like Bulgaria for example, still produce 152mm and 122mm shells for the 2S3 and the 2S1 in relatively large quantities. Bulgarian arms manufacturers have been working triple shifts since March. For political reasons, Bulgaria has been using intermediaries to sell the ammunition. Also, not all 6000 shells/day are 155mm and 105mm, but also 152mm, 122mm, 100mm (MT-12) and probably other calibers like the 203mm. It would also be interesting to compare how Russia is doing in that regard. Russia should've had enormous stocks of artillery ammo, but they were recently caught importing some from North Korea, which is interesting.

[@jamesmichael1978]

Yeah, worry is that North Korea is just being used a front to funnel Chinese munitions stocks into russia. Small streams of all those other calibers will make a mighty river to Ukraine.

[@TheArmchairAstronaut]

The New York Times, 5th Sept: "The United States provided few details from the declassified intelligence about the exact weaponry, timing or size of the shipment, and there is no way yet to independently verify the sale. A U.S. official said that, beyond short-range rockets and artillery shells, Russia was expected to try to purchase additional North Korean equipment going forward." An uncredited rumor. No evidence has been presented. People want to believe.

[@Alphasig336]

US has over 1,000,000 rounds in Germany depots alone. Also there is UK depots

[@ommsterlitz1805]

Ukraine is not using that much artillery shells the problem is that they need ones from country like France with limited production for the Caesar artillery that is always on the move and with it's unequalled precision, range and most importantly speed of deployment and redeployment to always negates counter attacks they are the main push to Ukraine advance and would need much more.

[@MoroccoBall111]

As A Iranian Arab Muslim, I Support Ukraine Sorry ukraine for the drone's we are with you 🇮🇷 🇺🇦 🇮🇷 🇸🇦 🇮🇶 🇶🇦 🇵🇸 🇱🇾 ❤🇺🇦

[@cinemaipswich4636]

Never in the modern US history have their military suppliers run out of ammunition.

[@KingLutherQ]

Don't worry, it's good that the Ukraine war makes the US govt realize that we need to expand manufacturing capacity for artillery rounds. The next US budget will probably quickly compensate for it. We also get to beta test our new weapons and donate our old stuff to make room for the newer better stuff.

[@makeitpay8241]

spot on

[@LordDucarius]

Seems like the Americans profit from this quite heavily, as if it has an interest in this war...

[@makeitpay8241]

@@LordDucarius you are quickly catching on

[@locknload9143]

When the story first broke, it was said Canada sent 100,000 rounds of Excalibur. Now all you can find is an undisclosed amount.

[@ricky1231]

Guided artillery shells vs dump shells It’s not always a numbers game !!!!!

[@valorz6064]

At their cost, those guided rounds better be hitting accurately 50x more often. A guided round costs roughly 100x more than a standard 155mm... 155mm = around $500 usd..... M982 Excalibur guided rounds are over $50,000 usd each... Ukraine better not be wasting these... Its still a numbers game when you run out of ammo...

[@FeherMate]

​@@valorz6064 A shot that misses by 50m was an useless shot. A shot corrected by drone that hits a tank worth several millions of dollars and destroys it (for which even a near miss is enough) is insane value for money, even if you miss several times before.

[@valorz6064]

​@@FeherMate Agreed, still doesn't change the fact we had given Ukraine more than we can create in a 3 years window... Yall better not be missing. Ukraine is essentially fighting Russia on America's dime... If Ukraine blows through all of our high-end ammo before a decisive win, it won't be able to make large pushes against Russia for quite some time... Russia is accustomed to being a militarized global pariah, Ukraine is not... If Ukraine doesn't use what we gave them to win by this year/early next year, NATO/US will need to directly intervene to make any victory possible. I hope we can provide another 55+ billion in weapons in a timely manner next year, but that is hard to say as America's economy is still stagnant. If we aren't able to perform another mass weapons shipment to Ukraine next year, this will be it... Since Ukraine has little domestic arms manufacturing, time and materials isn't on Ukraine's side... But let's hope the some 1,500 armor Ukraine claims to have destroyed with our weapons is enough to halt any more Russian offensives until we can send more. Do love seeing the work the NLAWs, HIMARs, and Excalibur rounds can do.

[@FeherMate]

@@valorz6064 While the US is indeed the biggest supporter of Ukraine, artillery ammo and MANPADS/Javelins are the only category where there seems to be a hard limit to the supplies. In the other categories, no IFVs or tanks were sent yet, and in the older types, stocks of Humvees- the ones being sent now are already the TOW-variant!- are potentially unlimited. To a certain extent, one can compensate for one category by sending another.

[@Roamingeast]

Ammunition manufacturing isnt really a matter of production for the US. its a matter of storage. The US can crank out shell after shell virtually indefinately, but our own stocks have a finite space to house them meaning you trickle production down to meet that threshold. Now that we have Ukraine gobbling up our shells, production facilities are in full swing and able to crank em out as much as necessary im sure to some congressmans delight if they are in his district.

[@ragesmirk]

Haha, this comment made me laugh so hard 😂🤣

[@kallanr360]

@@ragesmirk America spends 880 billion on its military, Russia 66 billion. The american war-machine is no joke, It can out produce anyone and Russia can't even get enough uniforms.

[@ricardokowalski1579]

Shells is only part of the game The barrels themselves get worn out Perun did a great video on it This is good content, the format is unique.

[@ricardokowalski1579]

@@everythingevergreen3320 If you are "not sure", go watch Perun's video. He may have something worth seeing. Cheers!

[@ricardokowalski1579]

@@everythingevergreen3320 Exactly. If a barrel can fire 2000 rounds before being worn out... and Ukraine is firing 6000 round per DAY... that means that the fleet *as a whole* would need three new barrels EVERY DAY. That is 90 new barrels per month. That is another sizeable logistic and manufacturing bottleneck. Plus the downtime to replace the barrels and the manpower and tooling. Respectfully. 👍🎩

[@castlekingside76]

The US is buying 100,000 shells from South Korea. Also, Ukraine is receiving large supplies of Russian shells because of how much Russian troops have left behind.

[@greybuckleton]

Smart to buy off Korea, should actually be a lot of nations that can build at least the standard rounds. Funnily enough Russia is buying off North Korea.

[@dgthe3]

@@greybuckleton Wonder what the relative dud rate is on the North vs South Korean shells.

[@greybuckleton]

@@dgthe3 will all depend if it's old or new. Soviet stuff is historically quite reliable, it was always designed to allow for basic tooling and education, the problems we are seeing is because it's aged and poorly stored. Even a Toyota looks bad after 20 years in the snow.

[@leel69540]

Don't worry about America and Ukraine. Inform us about Russias stock pile. That will determine how long this war will go on.

[@faikerdogan2802]

@Rico Thampaty they can't go infinity

[@TheArmchairAstronaut]

According to the ISW, Russia has at least 50 million 152mm rounds, produces 400k/month, and can increase monthly production to more than 2 million if needed. But they're a thinktank funded by western arms manufacturers, so...

[@tetispinkman9135]

dont forget about the barrels of howtizers, russians just shoot as many ammo they have, which results in wearness of barrels, which will probably end before ammo

[@Zerg435]

The US is the biggest arms salesmen of the world, they never run out of stock.

[@AbuBakr-gm6bf]

They run out of HIMARS can't producer until 2030 This his a hight intensity war its verry difficult for each nations to sustain the cost of this War even the USA can't

[@123456qwful]

Say was said about Russia, and with current world wide shortages advance guid equipment no matter the nation will run dry

[@victormelchy1264]

@@AbuBakr-gm6bf The U.S still has 380+ HIMARS in service. Only two countries have showed interest in buying HIMARS since 2019; Poland bought 20 that will be all delivered before the end of 2023. Then, Australia has signed a bill to buy 20 in may of 2022 but nothing has been purchased yet. Where did you got that info ?

[@Dave5843-d9m]

Having lots of HIMARS launchers (or 155mm guns) is not the same as having millions of round in ammo stores.

[@blettuce4668]

You don’t need millions of standard artillery rounds when HIMARS is so accurate

[@gd3710]

isn't the premise ignoring how much they are capturing from russia itself, I believe I heard it somewhere else that the issue is not how much ammo that nato can supply it's "how much ammo can they supply that ukraine can actually use" it was why it was a big deal they were getting specific forms of guns from certain countries because the ammo would be easier to supply than the older russia ones.

[@azab0b]

true but they aren't capturing that much really

[@4evaavfc]

Russia appears to donate a significant number of rounds to Ukraine. They leave them behind when retreating.

[@matthewhuszarik4173]

The US can increase production much more than your estimates. We could easier be producing several hundred thousand rounds a month by the middle of next year and a million rounds a month by 2024.

[@suffeeirshad]

Only with a wartime economy

[@matthewhuszarik4173]

@@suffeeirshad No it doesn’t take a war time economy like WW2 to do it. During Vietnam we produced far more ordnance than we did in WW2 and we didn’t have a war time economy. All it takes is the will and the incentives. Using the Defense Production Act cuts through the red tape, but doesn’t necessarily but the entire US economy into a war time economy.

[@suffeeirshad]

@@matthewhuszarik4173 possible. But will a us government do this?

[@ransompurvis4245]

Can we get a video on Russian stockpiles of rockets, artillery rounds, and PGMs?

[@pesco7]

Unfortunately I believe it would be harder to get an accurate sense of that due to Russia not having the same level of records transparency as the US.

[@johnvitalis952]

Those artillery rounds were made to fight Russia. So keep giving them to Ukraine!

[@Tom-ko5rt]

Yes, let’s deplete our own surplus! Great idea..

[@johnvitalis952]

@@Tom-ko5rt lol you do not have a clue of what we have and the process! But keep worrying it is good for you lololololol! But I'd rather have Ukraine doing the fighting than the US Military!

[@nattygsbord]

@@Tom-ko5rt Artillery shells should never be used at all. Those are just nice things that we store so we can be looking at them with admiration as the sit behind a glass monitor at a museum. Some old shells nears their expiration date and will be lost anyways regardless if they are sent to Ukraine or not. But I say lets keep those art pieces and waste money on storing things with no use value at all for ourselves, because some idiots do not wanna use up any surplus at all 🙄

[@risingmoon893]

Kamikoto is a scam company, they are owned by the same people who own Established Titles. They are all Hong Kong based.

[@fmo94jos8v3]

💯💯💯💯💯 420j2 steel cheap stuff

[@rickrude978]

"Poultry." One of the things people seem to miss how much systems can adapt to changing situations. I can share that there is a growing awareness in the DOD that our industrial base is not scaled to meet a modern war against a peer-level adversary. And that is happening. Over time, weekend work, etc. has been on the raise. And it will continue. This is a great lesson for the US.

[@davids8127]

US had fought in the middle-east for almost a decade with spare no expense. I`m sure they have the manufacturing capacity to support Ukraine for a bit longer. Also they can sell their older ammunition instead of having them laying around. The US makes bank on this and finally on a good cause.

[@Oldsmobility98]

They weren't expending artillery rounds at anywhere near this pace in those conflicts. Completely different kinds of wars, require different industrial capacity.

[@andrews.5212]

the intensity is nothing alike. is like comparing being a cop is culdesacville nowhere and detroit.. Just two different games: a) US and Nato have very little artillery in general being spoiled by CAS for decades.. b) The last REAL "war" fought by the US, Iraq Part1&2 were over in little over a month of active fighting. with enemy formation dissolving into the sun.. c) The Russo-Ukraine war is a REAL WAR between two fairly equally armed and sizeable forces..nothing compared to what the US is accostumed to. d)In the middle east the us was doing glorified police work for 10y. the worst they could recieve were some mortar shells..they had superior numbers, technology, and cas all day long. None of this applies to ukraine e)The US has not fought a REAL LAND WAR against a comparable foe since Korea.

[@janos5555]

And running out of ammo in 2024 would be completely fine, I believe the war will end at some point next year.

[@jonny-b4954]

Crazy to think how much ammo is used. And I mean, I bet they'd shoot two, three, four times as much if they had it. Reckon the barrels on the artillery pieces themselves can really only shoot so many before needing replacing.

[@kenlieberman4215]

If someone was shooting at you, you'd shoot everything on earth, from morning to night, even while taking a leak.

[@hdufort]

Canada is exporting shells directly to Ukraine now.

[@lemonpepperlouisville4138]

Yes every shell that is sent we are happy that it will end the life of at least 1 orc

[@TheBic4]

It’s kinda weird Ukraine cannot make it’s own artillery rounds yet. They had the capacity to manufacture vehicles like the Btr-4 and the Neptune missile.

[@ItsJoKeZ]

its almost like their entire country is being invaded and their infrustructer is destroyed

[@ItsJoKeZ]

@@merpusderpulan7612 if europe had it's pants down then Russia was naked in a bear cave right after hiberation season.

[@fertilerevitilizer7833]

That's because the logistics for that was provided by US and Europe. On its own ukraine is not competent or capable of producing a toothbrush.

[@TheBic4]

@@ItsJoKeZ well they are making kamikaze drones and drone boats, artillery shells are 100+ year teachnology. The Germans and Japanese were making artillery shells all they way up until they surrendered. Hell even isis was making 120mm mortars that could fired from real 120mm mortar tubes.

[@rogersmith7396]

@@fertilerevitilizer7833 Did'nt they sink Moskova?

[@mothgru]

Disappointed at the choice of sponsorship. Kamikoto knives are way overpriced. They use some of the cheapest steel out there with low edge retention. You could get an equivalent knife for A LOT cheaper.

[@drkirbkennethkirby7634]

Facts. Honestly, I like Cutcos stuff more . 420a steel is about as good as it gets for civilians

[@daniellooney8878]

Wow, I do not think people understand just how much ammo was stored in the deserts of the west US and Siberia. RU is not out of ammo despite people thinking that 3 monthes ago. I left the US Army FA and the latest box of ammo we ever shot was 1956 for 105mm ammo and that was 2000. Neither side is going to run out of ammo anytime soon. The cold war was that crazy for both sides.

[@stimublu8570]

US didnt sold most of its inventory to both sides in a 8-year WWI-style arty duel and then shut down most of its production facility.

[@Nobleheart111]

True, but Russia might run out of artillery barrels first.

[@KirkFickert]

Thing is explosives do have a shelf life and Russia's weather conditions aren't exactly a cool dry place...

[@daniellooney8878]

@@KirkFickert Very true, but they (RU) have not run of 152mm or 122mm HE yet. And people predicated that monthes ago. I am just saying the US running out of 105mm or 155mm standard HE is not happening either. :)

[@daniellooney8878]

@@Nobleheart111 Very true, but at the rate of fire Uke as well. What about the west arty barrels? Just saying 1st assumption wrong about other side, why not this one? With my anecdotal evidence I presented. That is all. :)

[@mmeade9402]

I think the big issue here is the reported 5-6k rounds fired per day. I can believe that they may have had a few days during the height of the artillery war in the summer where it may have gotten that high, but only a few days of that. I dont think theres any possibility that is a sustained number. Just going off the Ukrainian General Staff reports that they release regularly, where they report the number of fire missions performed, I would likely put the number somewhere around 1500-2000 per day on average. Some days lower, some days higher, but a pretty good mid ground average. Still a lot, but much more supportable. Even if its just the US going to foreign suppliers and purchasing direct. And it doesnt have to NATO allies. SK/Pakistan/Egypt... several others. All countries with large ammunition production facilities that could be potentially selling to US who forwards them on, or substitutes there own stockpile... etc etc

[@tsp312]

There have been many days where Ukrainian usage reached 15k or so and Russian 60k. Of course the front is shorter than the height and guns will have been damaged or destroyed but I highly doubt it would have dropped 90%, 5-6k honestly seems a little low especially at most fronts are intensifying lately. Also going to non-NATO countries really isn't an option, they either will not be able to produce the correct shells (I'm sure SK has some 155 production but Pakistan? highly unlikely) or be unwilling to (Egypt absolutely not) or simply the logistics of transporting them will be prohibitive (SK having to ship across two oceans).

[@snowdogthewolf]

Canada has so far provided no less than 20,000 155mm NATO standard artillery shells. The ROK has ramped up production to provide both the US and Canada with replacement (which have proven to be just as quality as domestically produced munitions).

[@mrbombastic8097]

20k thats not even 4 days of ammunition

[@yuhno808]

Binkov, you totally forgot to mention one key US ally that has huge stockpile of artillery ammunition. South Korea has around 13 million NATO standard Artillery ammunition that are ready to be used (or stockpiled in Western countries, who in turn will give more flexibility to give their own stockpile to Ukraine).

[@abcdpqrs1281]

North Korea might retaliate if south korea does try to pull such moves.

[@RTWPimpmachine]

@@abcdpqrs1281 Yeah, North Korea, a country with a military budget the size of the NYPD might retaliate.

[@abcdpqrs1281]

@@RTWPimpmachine they have nuclear weapons.

[@RTWPimpmachine]

@@abcdpqrs1281 And the U.S. has the most developed nuclear arsenal on the planet. South Korea falls under the U.S. nuclear umbrella.

[@abcdpqrs1281]

@@RTWPimpmachine and then it snowballs where china and Russia too will start using nuclear weapons. U don't really want that.

[@ttrruaminpn5755]

You can buy from South Korea. They have 7.8 million 105mm and 155mm shells. But they don't want to piss off Putin though.

[@ronblack7870]

putin is not relevant anymore. what does south korea have to do with russia?

[@euboean3079]

@@ronblack7870 North Korea is dependent on Russia and China.

[@petersvancarek]

2 things: 1. Western countries aren't that limited on stocks, the manufacturing power is enormous compared to what russia is able off. 2. Much higher accuracy of western weapons allows easily less than 1/4 of ammunition used compared to what russia needs. Russia has already expended most of its stocks. They are scrapping bottom of the barrel. And quality of ammo shows it. They won't be able to fight much sooner than Ukraine.

[@morganholsomback4851]

From a government document from 1995 : The Army has load, assemble, and pack production lines for artillery projectiles at nine locations: the Iowa, Kansas, Lone Star, Longhorn, Louisiana, Milan, and Mississippi Army Ammunition Plants; the Crane Army Ammunition Activity; and the Pine Bluff Arsenal. The Army has laid away production lines at the Mississippi plant and is in the process of laying away some parts of the production lines at the Kansas, Longhorn, and Louisiana plants. The Army plans to keep the production lines at the other locations active to meet projected artillery projectile requirements. The five plants to remain active (Iowa, Lone Star, Milan, Crane, and Pine Bluff) have a combined capacity to load, assemble, and pack 867,000 artillery projectiles a month during three 8-hour shifts each day for 5 days a week. According to Army officials, this capacity is sufficient to meet projected replenishment requirements for all artillery projectiles. So a million rounds a month capacity before the 18 munitions plants being refurbished in the USA come on line.

[@mckitsune7600]

@@flyingtigers3747 hahahahaha man that funny

[@Typexviiib]

@@flyingtigers3747 it's common knowledge, I live pretty close to crane. If you think you can get anything other than an icbm within 25 miles of the cost I encourage you to try.

[@Typexviiib]

@@flyingtigers3747 the location of us ammo plants is public knowledge.

[@charlesk2270]

A simple rule of thumb. If the US has for example 300 M777 in inventory, they would have enough ammo for 300. That said, having served in the US Army, they always plead poverty.

[@daivdsmith3746]

If you don't use your budget you lose it... so always say you never have enough and beg for more $

[@Scott4271]

Every US round the Ukrainians use against Russia, is a round the US will not have to directly use against Russia. During WWII US weapons production rates doubled every year. With most of defense production focused on weapons needed by Ukraine they will be able to produce significantly more and you think Russia has an infinite number of shells? Also, never underestimate the ability of arms manufacturers lobbyists to get Congress to cough up more $$ for more weapons.

[@lqr824]

The "military industrial complex" may have been a huge worry in the past, but after the break-up of the USSR, the US military budget fell by 50% in real terms. That shows that the lobbyists don't have a huge amount of power. Likewise, the fact that the US stockpiles are being significantly drawn down is also a sign that we didn't have "too many" weapons on hand.

[@Walterwaltraud]

Simply shows that in March or April we should have a) given them all old available Soviet equipment and b) turn to mass production like in WWII: Either Ukraine needs it to defend itself or we need it for conventional deterrence. There are standard formats, there's stuff, kit and ammo, that's easier to produce than others. 60 mm mortars, 40 mm grenade launchers - easy. NVGs and crypto radios: Tough. CAESAR - comparably easy. Pzh 2000 - rather complex. Excalibur - good luck with huge quantities. Standard ammo: Tougher than I would have expected... Thanks for the good overview. I am not as pessimistic for target acquisition in the winter (snow tracks, IR contrast, radar satellites), but the numbers are kinda discouraging.

[@simon2493]

Kamikoto is scam don't buy there is video about this knifes on YT its basically cheap Chinese steal branded as some top quality Japanese knifes

[@shawnw6486]

The military doesn't place that much significance anymore on the artillery rounds being sent. What little artillery is used is being transferred to smart rounds anyway. This is why the production is less. Rounds like the Excalibur where 1 round can do what it would take a previous barrage of dozens of dumb shells is the way its going so they probably are looking for a way to get rid of these old dumb shells anyway

[@CitiesTurnedToDust]

So far as I can tell there is still a place for dumb shells fired from accurate artillary. The Ukrainians don't want to spend a precious Excalibur round to blow up a small concentration of conscripts and their cardboard shelters. But a dumb shell is fine for that.

[@SilentButDudley]

Likely never since the US can keep giving them old shells. Imagine if the US were capable of giving the equipment we lost to the Taliban to the Ukrainians. People don’t realize how bad of a blunder it was...

[@boris001000]

If you think about it, most trollers who say "But Middle East!" seem to forget one thing. Their opponents are also Western-trained. Which means that Western training must be pretty effective, whether in Ukraine or the Middle East!

[@infantjones]

How many old shells do you think the US has?

[@Jack-kp4qo]

"you ain't black if you don't vote for me"

[@Bitchslapper316]

They didn't give anything to the Taliban. Everything the Taliban captured was Afghan army equipment sold to them by the U.S. None of it belonged to the U.S military anymore.

[@ramadansteve1715]

@@Bitchslapper316 These conservatives don't care about facts, they just want to be outraged at Biden

[@briand5170]

Looking back at world war 1, the British were able to field massive amounts of artillery rounds with early 1900s manufacturing so as long as it remains in the US’s interest, I don’t imagine there will be any problems producing the rounds

[@Walterwaltraud]

I thought the same, but the interviews with CEOs of the companies are more sceptical than I would have expected. GLMRS of course is more complex than standard 155 mm shells, but their pace is quite sobering.

[@nunoteles59]

100,000 rounds of 155mm artillery rounds that would be delivered to Ukraine from south korea

[@Northfordtrailcam]

At 200,000 rounds per month, at what point does Ukraine's existing 250+ artillery pieces experience mechanical fatigue and requirement repair and/or replacement? Is the supply of rounds the real issue or lack of replacement artillery?

[@iljavija]

They fail, UA forces fire alot of shells. PZH2000 has many problems because of overuse. On the other side, UA will test the max possible usage from those guns they got from NATO.

[@olegbobrovskiy3244]

There are constantly a dozen or more Ukrainian howitzers down for maintenance, they are repaired in Poland/Lithuania

[@Schmidty1]

They get their barrels replaced and are repaired in Poland and other NATO countries and get sent right back afterwards.

[@puellamservumaddominum6180]

If anything number of Ukrainian shells used per day has increased. Last I heard we averaging six thousand 155mm NATO rounds a day alone. BTW thankyou West much appreciated.

[@Infiltator2]

Yeah it needs to be differentiated between ammunition for soviet artillery and for western artillery. Soviet era ammunition is indeed a problem but not the western

[@Slava-zv5jr]

Russia on average fires 20,000 a day.

[@mordax7443]

5m 155mm shells would need over 3000 barrels (assuming a 1500+ barrel life). I'd imagine barrels and wear on other parts of the gun/vehicle might be more of a problem than the amount of available ammo.

[@kurtwicklund8901]

Ukraine has been routinely re-lining its artillery tubes. Has Russia. Relative accuracy resukts say no.

[@Oldsmobility98]

@@kurtwicklund8901 Where are you getting your data on artillery accuracy? I'd love to parse into more information on the artillery war.

[@MH-jt3lx]

They can ramp up production x3 with out any new production facilities. Just by adding two shifts to current machinery. Remember they only run one 8hr shift for costs sake.

[@nutsackmania]

@@earth9531 Is this a joke?

[@pedrohenriqueroquesoares2331]

@@nutsackmania this @earth guy doens't understand... money is the least of the problem ahahahahaha US go brrrrrrrrrr

[@Shazza2024]

Training a vetting people for this takes time. Also the costs you mentioned..

[@Shazza2024]

@@earth9531 for too long. The soviets only ever had two thirds of the USAs GDP and so a long arms race broke them as civilian infrastructure was neglected. The USA is far richer now and these arms companies are owned largely by the wealthiest US citizens. They be happy to spend a bit more on bombs. No the USA wont go broke in the short term and they can always cut welfare and healthcare. Indeed thats the republicans plan

[@MrDosonhai]

@@earth9531 Ever heard of the war economy?

[@stimublu8570]

Realistically Russian tubes and rounds might run out first. Note that the Soviet has already sold about half of their inventory to Iraq and Iran during 8 years of bloody but profitable war. And it seemed now Russian has lost its arty duel with Urkkaine.

[@taz8728]

Lmao we are fucking Ukraine with 1/8 less manpowe & we are the attacking side, dream on nato boi we are coming for you next just waiting for the order

[@louie55ish]

Eh!

[@MrDosonhai]

@@taz8728 You've been living under a rock or something? Russia literally had to withdraw from Kherson, your last real fortress in Ukraine. Your empty words mean nothing.

[@richardlellip.e.m.b.a.7969]

Putin's Russia will collapse by the end of Q2 2023 -- it's tanks and smart missiles are all but gone and, more importantly, it's Foreign Currency Reserves will be GONE by the end of Q1 2023 -- Russia will lose Crimea and the land bridge to the Donbas while Ukraine destroys Russia's electrical & energy grid with long range drones and, yes, Ukrainian Western Jet fighters will destroy its Black Sea Fleet -- it will be glorious to watch.

[@SeattlePioneer]

@@richardlellip.e.m.b.a.7969 > I would be glad to have that happens, but it's just a fantasy at this point. It sounds like the predictions of a global warming hysteric with their idea of the future. Unfortunately, the reality for the immediate future is a lot more death, destruction and suffering in Ukraine.

[@outatime626]

Thing is I’d imagine Russia would be running low too. They have physical limitations too. Additionally, the US could always use the Defense Act to build up weapons quickly if the need should arise like in the defense of Taiwan.

[@thundereagle4130]

US industrial complex is a giant compared to the Russian side. Even if the whole Europe would supply Russia, the US could still outproduce them. However the problem with the USA is that they trash equipment relatively fast when a new piece of equipment is invented while Russia mostly keeps its stuff. That's why we see equipment from the 60's being used by Russia while the US has to keep producing new stuff very quickly. Eventually that old stuff is going to be depleted and the Russian industrial complex won't be able to keep up production.

[@olegbobrovskiy3244]

@@thundereagle4130 Putin's russia has a year left or so where it can wage a war, hopefully less.

[@Ormusn2o]

There is a big difference between making new capability and expanding already existing capabilities. West is not mobilizing, but even then there has to be already existing capability that we can bring back, especially that USA was at war for last 21 years. While i can believe it can take 2-3 years to increase capacity to 5 million rounds a year, you can probably double production capacity in about one week, if you are willing to pay a bit of a premium. Machines can run 24/7, you can outsource a lot of the components and the materials already have industrial use, like composition b or steel. Many other factories can machine steel, and even gps chips have wide array of consumer uses in cellphones and cars.

[@gorilla6099]

Bruh this guys produced 300 000 military aircraft in 4 years during WW2, having only produced 3 000 total before the start of the war lol. Don't underestimate American ability to ramp up production.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

But will Americans PAY for it and why would they ?

[@jeremyg8568]

@@jacobjorgenson9285 Cause F^%$ Putin. Not Russia mind you, most of us understand the Russian people by and large aren't part of the problem.

[@bearram9481]

@@jacobjorgenson9285 I think America is starting to realize it needs to greatly increase it's military production capability. The fact that this is not even a direct war for them and their reserves are suffering says it all. Particularly given how much the US spends on it's military. On the flip side it makes a bit more sense the reports of Russia being low on ammo.

[@dankengine5304]

Mind you American fighters in WW2 were far cheaper and easier to make

[@bearram9481]

@@dankengine5304 This is true. Though I'm guessing artillery shells are about the same. The current issues are probably a consequence of too much outsourcing.

[@MH-jt3lx]

An artillery factory can go from foundation to production in three months if required so no one's running out of artillery rounds.

[@rodiculous9464]

Yeah and then what? Go out of business and lose your investment when the war ends? You don't just magically get a blank check in perpetuity, there are many more factors at play

[@MrWhitmen1981]

@@rodiculous9464 I rather that blank cheque then if boots in the ground in Europe. If it gets to that stage it is going to need one of those basketball half court cheques.

[@TheMightySilverback_]

Those knives are serious rip offs, do not buy.

[@Jarod-te2bi]

3:25 that’s a lot of big guns, I like to add that UK 🇬🇧 bought 22 M109 paladins from Belgium and sent them to Ukraine.

[@paulbrowne5049]

Never underestimate the US military industrial complex. They have the money and means.

[@rolithesecond]

I would strongly assume, the US having spun up production massively already.

[@PD-yd3fr]

shhhh (main reason for war)

[@marcusjorgensen7625]

You know its a good video when both Pro-Ukraine and Pro-Russia complain about the same video.

[@Mortablunt]

I like Binkov because he is not only balanced but runs objective analyses.

[@cz1589]

According to some analysys and Reuters: by spring, U.S could send tens of thousands of GLSDB's to Ukraine missiles , a sort of modified high-precision missile with a (Toschka) range of aprox 150 km. So no short on missiles for coming years anyway.

[@Squigglydodah]

This may be the first time in history that anyone ever doubted America's ability to produce ridiculously large quantities of weapons rapidly. 😆 Not only will Uncle Sam be able to do it but those rounds will likely increase in quality with each new batch and decrease in their production time.

[@teaser6089]

Luckily Ukraine has a new ammo donator: Russia ofcourse

[@fungooloo12]

Yeah but I don't think Russia uses 155mm rounds so that means all the new 155mm artillery will get parked and unused.

[@teaser6089]

@@fungooloo12 no, but they both use 122mm as well

[@aymonfoxc1442]

There could be an eb in the supply of some munitions / categories of munitions and ammunition but as Western production expands and kicks into gear, this issue will fade. The US in particular, seems to have encouraged a 'fire for effect' style focus on precision strikes and obtaining the tactical advantage through the use of artillery, rather than a high-consumption wide area suppression approach (like that of the Soviet era forces) and the Ukrainians have adapted to this approach very well. It is a fascinating subject but it is also sad that it's a subject at all.

[@Shatterverse]

One thing about the military is you can always fairly safely assume that they're lowballing you on something - numbers, details, etc. That said, you should always go with the lowball numbers or else you end up risking a big problem. See also Russia's paper tiger. "we have all the guns!" yeah but they were all stripped for parts and the replacement budget bought some asshole a giant metayacht.

[@kenlieberman4215]

The US always says there's a shortage and they need to buy more, Russia always says it has plenty when it has nothing.

[@lightspeedvictory]

I wonder if this situation is causing NATO to take a hard look at ordnance expenditure in a conflict…

[@dgthe3]

Probably. But everyone was shocked at the demand for shells in WWII -despite the same thing happening in WWI -which was a repeat of the same thing happening in various 19th century wars as well. In the end, it mainly comes down to having factories big enough that you can quickly ramp up production 10 fold from peace time numbers. The other thing too is that Ukraine is using artillery for missions that NATO would often employ aircraft for. A few 500 lb bombs pack a bigger punch than an entire barrage of 155mm. And a couple 2000 pounders will destroy just about anything you want.

[@OnSilverWings]

Burning question is how long can Russia last?

[@123456qwful]

They would run out of anyone willing to fight then they would have ammo

[@kaboomwinn4026]

Remember that Russia does not decommission their obsolete munitions and instead keeps them in inventory for about 60+ years. Some date back to WWII and Cold War production. However nato replaced their expiration munitions often. Ultimately, 10% of Europe can provide Ukraine with force. It would be utilized in the order of oldest to newest munitions.

[@ricardokowalski1579]

It would be very costly to answer that question. Luckily for all involved: Putin will be done for long before we find out how long "russia would last"

[@moseszero3281]

You counted 6k per day but part of that is them using Ukraine's stockpiles of russian ammo for their russian guns. Add in supplies of that ammo from other countries. Along with everything captured from Kharkiv and elsewhere. That could pad out the length of their supplies greatly.

[@RobGM2]

This war has also been a good gauge with how many rounds western countries might need if they were involved in a war with Russia. That means all the west countries will start ramping up production of all artillery not just for Ukraine but for their own defense as well.

[@petedallas3044]

putin has caused this.

[@hitmusicworldwide]

I like the way the analysis dances between the USA being the only supplier and also briefly mentioning that NATO is also involved, then going back to the scenario where the USA "exhausts" it's productive capacity as if it is alone in these efforts. On the other hand, are we to assume that Russia has an unlimited supply of artillery, or everything for that matter? When it comes to productive capacity ramping up to dominate a conflict, WW2 has shown that the USA can get the job done. Except this time, the USA is not alone with only a battered UK. NATO represents the economic and military might of the world most advanced economies. Russia? Well even with North Korea's "help" (lol!), Just how long can this relatively weak and battered entity sustain itself is really the question here. You can't make military weapons at scale in a sustained war with birch bark juice, crude oil, ... and the North Koreans.

[@charleswomack2166]

But what about the PRC?

[@stimublu8570]

@@charleswomack2166 PRC is busy putting up minor middle Asia nation leaders into humiliating Putin and giving him a talk down about how to do things the proper way in summits. You know, since Putin come to the Winter Olympics and give the false promise to Xi that whether he is not to invade or it will be a limited and swift action. His action, and then failure, hereby became unacceptable to Beijing and must be taught a lesson. To note that for Beijing, it is more important not to be associated with a failure than to have another North Korea like a failure of a nation which would kidnap its policy and resources while only provide limited use for a buffer state, and not a good one since it has its own nukes.

[@aliyuumar8651]

under estimate the Russians capabilities at your own peril

[@Nobleheart111]

LOL! Russian “capabilities”😜. They have shown the world exactly how “capable” they are over the last 9 months. Namely, Russia is a 3rd rate power with delusions of old grandeur. Time to put the mangy bear down.

[@leandrocerneira]

the US has only a fraction of the industrial base of russia, the US dont make anything anymore, it's all made overseas, the economic base its financial, money out of thin air. The russians have been stockpiling since 2008, and keep producing with great funding thanks to the energy costs going up. And their citizens unlike those in the west, are pretty comfortable

[@ongoliver8924]

In war, nobody will tell u truthfully how much ammo they had. No difference in a card game or mahjong/domino/unos etc. 😑

[@joshuagenes]

It is a good opportunity for the US to replace these rounds with smarter rounds like the MTAR rounds.

[@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082]

Just asking, how many artillery rounds that US use in both Afghanistan and Iraq ?

[@Conan-ny1um]

USA / Canada Excalibur 155mm rounds are what matter ..

[@NewAgeOfPower]

Binkov: Guys USA only needs 2 years to x10 it's fighter jet production vs China Binkov: Also even in 3 years USA can't meet half its ammo consumption vs Russia Which one is true, my slavic sockpuppet?

[@joshkarpatkin2642]

The US is an air power based military. It's artillery is relatively weak by comparison. (This is because air power is much mobile and quicker to deploy to distant conflicts)

[@Kishandreth]

Binkov, do yourself a favor and research the US defense production act. It allows the government to run entire logistics chains and set up production facilities. If there is one single thing the US armed forces does exceptionally it would be logistics. The US could spend 50 million on a factory and have it running in months, partnering with experts in manufacturing a plant would take no more then half a year to each expected production numbers. As for the supplies to build and support a factory, again the defense production act can allow the military to buy the resources at market value and send them where needed.

[@thilomanten8701]

In contrast to Europe (and somewhat Ruzzia) the US never gave up its war-production facilities; also known as the military -industrial complex - here we now see its immediate advantage! Ruzzia can kiss its a$$ blyat goodbye.

[@MrCastodian]

What they can do in theory is far from reality.

[@donaldhysa4836]

@@MrCastodian United states supported both UK and USSR with its industry during WW2. It is not far from reality

[@paweostrzelkowski5805]

TBH the real problem is with 152mm (Soviet block ammunision), Ukraine has a lot more post soviet cannons that modern NATO, but they have no more ammunition. In western world. Only small factory in Czechia and factory in Poland produce this type of shells. Everythink is going to ukraine, but it just not enought. Thats why NATO countries starts to give Ukraine standard NATO artillery

[@paweostrzelkowski5805]

For example, one of AHS KRAB shoot over 8000 shells in just 6 mounts (in the instruction there is a note to make general renowation after 2000 shoots - but there is no time or free equipment to do it). That show how much one piece of equipment can shoot and how much amunisition need Ukraine

[@Fightingturtle404]

Ukraine wont run out of ammo, U.S will make sure of that no matter how long it takes if it takes 20 million rounds so be it.

[@TheEverFreeKing]

We should be working towards peace not letting our military industrial complex make money 🗿

[@iljavija]

Yeah people seem to underestimate Lend Lease and how strong military industrial complex in USA.

[@sharwama992]

@Shinshocks If this war isn’t resolved through negotiations Russia would come back 20 years later if kicked out

[@nobodyherepal3292]

@@TheEverFreeKing victory leads to lasting peace more then appeasement ever will.

[@nobodyherepal3292]

@@TheEverFreeKing victory leads to lasting peace more then appeasement ever will.