When Neandertals Became Apex Predators

[@KoneSkirata]

In "The Last Neanderthal" by Claire Cameron we follow the perspective of a neanderthal who struggles to survive in a landscape once home to vast numbers of her kin, who now face extinction through a number of different factors, Homo sapiens being one. It's tragic and very, very lonely, but also full of love and hope. Great read imo.

[@Alice_Walker]

This sounds great. Thank you for the recommendation 📝

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

I had the book, it is indeed a great read, also highly recommend Rebecca Wragg Sykes Kindred as a more formal text (I learned about Claire's novel through it)

[@jakehewitt2697]

That’s so cool, I didn’t know Neanderthals wrote any books

[@talideon]

From what I've read, the reason the Neanderthals didn't adopt our hunting style was in part down to a non-obvious physical different: modern humans have a much greater degree of arm motion around the shoulders, allowing us to throw overarm, which is really useful if you want to be able to throw long distances accurately and with force.

[@slappy8941]

*difference

[@MorrisJohn-vo2vn]

I doubt it would be so great that Neanderthals couldn't do it at all, just less efficiently .

[@Mikey__R]

Sure, but even a small loss of efficiency would make projectile weapons less favourable. Drawing a bow is hard, you need strength *and* mobility, plus the fine motor coordination to aim whilst at full draw. You also need the tool technology to shape a bow stave and the knowledge to tiller it so it doesn't break. A whole lot goes into primitive archery. Spears are lower tech, but shorter ranged, so you'd already be pretty up close and personal.

[@2l84t]

I've never seen anything to imply they used trajectory weapons.

[@max-imal8588]

Trowing spears can be thrown pretty far with a spearthrower, they are comperable to bows in that regard​@@Mikey__R

[@tiffanymarie9750]

I think the answer to "why did neanderthals disappear" is all of the above AND cultural assimilation. (Also I'm of the opinion that they haven't truly disappeared, since their descendants are walking around right this moment).

[@fabricreative1930]

A species doesn't have to leave no descendants to go extinct.

[@clownpendotfart]

I don't think we see evidence of Neandertal sites absorbing culture from the out-of-Africa newcomers. There was some interbreeding, but it's a very small percentage of modern DNA. Really just a small number of genes that got selected for as they were presumably more adapted to European environments.

[@MossyMozart]

@tiffanymarie9750 - I thoroughly agree. No extinction, but a _MERGER!_

[@clownpendotfart]

@@MossyMozart Mostly an extinction. Very little of their DNA persisted.

[@frednorman1]

Our newly elected American president? Wait, I didn't mean to insult Neanderthals

[@Alias_Anybody]

This reminds me of those "human vs" scenarios, which always bug me, because all humans starting with Homo Erectus distinctly evolved to actually put those brains and legs to use, not to casually walk into the forest and punch some deer. Give me 20 buddies, hunting bows, stone tipped spears and javelins, flint daggers and bone clubs, and we'll see how many animals can still beat us.

[@bruno4299]

Any animal. If you are placed in the middle of the bush you will remain in the fetal position waiting to be rescued.

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@bruno4299 Can you please stop wasting precious oxygen and stop posting?

[@huwhitecavebeast1972]

Few creatures could survive and drive off 20 humans, but I think the biggest bears were capable of causing such losses that the rest of the humans would have fled. Anyone who knows about hunting bears knows that even our modern ones are incredibly hard to kill. I think the only way they would do it and escape serious injury would be to chuck a few spears at the bear and then wait for it to bleed out. Those huge elephants in the video would have been similarly difficult. I strongly suspect even Neanderthals did not attack them directly until they had been otherwise incapacitated, whether it was by throwing stones, or using traps. It was a strategy of ancient humans including Neanderthals to dig huge pits and lure huge megafauna into them where they could kill them safely by throwing huge rocks or other weapons.

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@huwhitecavebeast1972 The point was, a bear wouldn't have screwed with 20 human hunters either. Even if it could kill some, a random spear to the jaw could have meant slow starvation over months. If you are like, I want to hunt this thing for food, you'd of course make a plan, not just rush it. However, I think people also underestimate how much damage ONE javelin from a trained hunter with an Atlatl can do.

[@rl9217]

Cave Lion: “I fear no animal, but that thing…” Neanderthals: (thinking about how great of an idea throwing sharp sticks would be) Cave Lion: “It scares me.”

[@tobilikebacon]

No throwing from the neanderthals, thats only us

[@genericalfishtycoon3853]

What really made them intimidating was they didn't throw the sticks or rocks. Up close melee specialists all the way. These were men who would look a gorilla in the eyes, and it would bow it's head.

[@sukmykrok3388]

I love that "Nico Robin" is a patron!

[@TsuchiGamer06]

"no mean feat getting all of that feet meat" crazy line reading LOL

[@elmorty]

I NEED to know: Who wrote the epic feet meat pun? I mean, there is the obvious choice, but dad jokes contagion is real.

[@jbaccanalia]

"All of the above" plus the boink factor. Ideal habitat applies to all species including Neanderthals. Habitat crowding and admixture upset the delicate balance the apex people had in a difficult climate. What a different picture we have now. Michelle you rock. 🦕

[@duybear4023]

What's the oldest evidence of traps? Trapping is one of our most effective hunting strategies. You can set dozens of them and they work 24/7 as you do other work.

[@xwiick]

Thanks for all the hard work on these videos!

[@pheebs887]

I wonder if eating other predators could have also contributed to their downfall from diseases or misfolded proteins (prions)?

[@TheZinmo]

Multiple groups coming together each year would also be an ideal "marriage market".

[@MossyMozart]

True.

[@FirstDagger]

And as mentioned in one of your episodes _Homo sapiens_ had dogs as their hunting companions.

[@naamadossantossilva4736]

Which may be a sign of a large difference in thought process.Shame we never found a preserved Neanderthal brain,all questions about them would be answered by that.

[@MorrisJohn-vo2vn]

Are u super Humans had dogs by then? It was Ancient North Eurasians that domesticated them, I don't know if Neanderthals still existed them.

[@MorrisJohn-vo2vn]

​​@@naamadossantossilva4736there's an Ethiopian type of baboon that hunts together with African wild dogs so it may actually be a more innate behavior for Monkeys(including Apes) than we thought.

[@deheavon6670]

That was much, much later.

[@infinitemonkey917]

Dogs were likely first domesticated as a food source. Estimates put it at between 13,000 and 40,000 yrs ago. Neanderthals were nearly extinct by 40k.

[@patrickblanchette4337]

Thanks for the really cool informative video😊!

[@DaVultureTTG]

Neanderthals lived in various different climates, their diets varied widely depending on the food sources available. Anyone who was an interested in Neanderthals, you should watch North 02s full length documentary on KZbin. It’s a 2 hour in depth overview of all research regarding Neanderthals, an absolute blessing to the world honestly that it’s free on KZbin.

[@PurebloodKnight]

Damn the French! They killed the Neanderthals!!

[@semaj_5022]

It always comes down to the French in the end, doesn't it?

[@raskbell]

We are technically neanderthal/sapian human hybrids, somewhere back there, one of your ancestors was a neanderthal . We interbred for up to 7000 years, and some papers have suggested that our success expanding into certain environments was aided through their adapations we got in this genetic mixing. We may have out competed them as a species, but their legacy still lives on within us.

[@clownpendotfart]

I think it's just non-Africans that are all supposed to have Neandertal ancestry. Though there was backmigration into Africa after interbreeding in the Middle East.

[@jamesonpace726]

Yup, agreed....

[@Nick-fm5uv]

Wait if it could feed a tribe of 100 for over a month… how would they keep the meet from rotting for that long??? 6:26

[@Clearlight201]

I think there need to be more studies looking at birth rates between Neanderthals and Sapiens. All the other factors such as assimilation, out-competing, killing them make a lot more sense if our numbers increased more rapidly compared to Neanderthals. In short, I think a major factor is that we likely 'out-bred' them.

[@caden90]

Exactly! I like the Sexy Neanderthal Theory.

[@Atlas-pn6jv]

That doesnt consider the fact that it wasn't just one tribe of Homosapiens that showed up and had 2 or 3 kids for every one Neanderthal. Homosapiens migrated in waves over time. If the migration population was high enough, Homosapiens would only need a 1:1 birth rate to outpace the Neanderthals.

[@Clearlight201]

@@Atlas-pn6jv science needs disagreement to advance. Thank you for disagreeing. I disagree with you also.

[@clownpendotfart]

Neandertal population sizes seem to have been much smaller than Denisovan or African ones. The higher up the food chain you go, the smaller the number that can be supported.

[@lathrael7152]

I doubt it was any different than homo sapiens since we were biologically compatible.

[@willalogicalwf]

Neandethalensis needed 5000 to 6000 calories EVERY DAY. We were better at surviving on less and therefore we're more successful

[@clownpendotfart]

People will bend over backward to attribute extinctions to climate change rather than homo sapien hunters. For example, in the Americas you will hear such an explanation for why megafauna just so happened to die out when the ancestors of today's Amerindians arrived... even though they survived much longer on islands those newcomers couldn't immediately get to.

[@aottadelsei980]

A fossil find in Jaguar Cave in Idaho shows that ancient humans likely hunted and ate American lions. Neanderthals never made it to North America which means our species were also Apex predators that were capable of killing large Panthera cats too.

[@Wolfie54545]

It makes sense why large cats of both big cats and saber toothed cats lived until later in the Americas. Humans didn’t get here until later to outcompete them.

[@TheClamy8911]

The megafauna on every single continent went extinct after homosapiens showed up. The exception to this is Africa, those animals evolved with us. Researchers conducted a study where they played different sounds over a speaker in some African country. The animals ran the fastest and furthest from the sounds of human voices .

[@americalowkeysuc8754]

Native American have higher counts of Neanderthal dna than Caucasians…. Just wanted to throw that out there

[@calibandrive7487]

@@TheClamy8911 For now... check back in a couple 1000 years and maybe those African megafauna will be extinct too

[@daerdevvyl4314]

@TheClamy8911 Elephants only reacted with fright when they heard male voices speaking the language of the ethnic group that hunted elephants. Because women, and also men of the other local ethnic group, didn't hunt elephants, the elephants didn't react when they heard women speaking, or men speaking the non elephant hunting language:

[@edj8008]

We still carry thier genes.

[@Mayochup191]

You do, not me

[@MossyMozart]

@@Mayochup191 - Have you been tested? There may be few populations that lack Neanderthal DNA, but the _vast majority_ of Sapiens DO carry their genes.

[@blueridgestops3128]

Watching this, I began to wonder if Neanderthals may have “actively hunt[ed]…species that just didn’t get hunted” because of bragging rights, rites of passage, or because animals without known predators were simply too easily approached because it had never been done to these animals before. I’m thinking that when Neanderthals first picked up the spear, it was all three.

[@iriandia]

They could also have wanted to eliminate danger, or competition. You don’t want a cave lion around if you have kiddos.

[@shafqatishan437]

But cave lions, cave bears, cave hyenas and most of the other ice age predators as well as prey animals outlived the Neanderthals by thousands of years

[@aplaceinthestars3207]

The "no mean feat..." line makes me want to repeat it over a dish of dim sum chicken feet.

[@Alice_Walker]

I absolutely LOVE all these early human ish videos. Thank you so much! 💜

[@unvergebeneid]

Anyone else now wondering what cave lion would've tasted like?

[@keithfaulkner6319]

Probably how modern lions today taste.

[@Alias_Anybody]

Probably like chicken (just joking)

[@unvergebeneid]

@@keithfaulkner6319 probably. Follow-up question: what do lions taste like?

[@Akbonkster]

@@unvergebeneidlike a tiger with pride.

[@ecurewitz]

I’m guessing rather gamey

[@Cornerdog]

I have a sudden urge to rewatch Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal.

[@ZeMarkKrazee]

It always seems strange to place other humans (Neanderthals) in an “us vs them” situation. We have literal genetic evidence of interbreeding that persists to this day. Were there likely conflicts between homosapiens and Neanderthals? Sure. Just as there were likely conflicts between Homo sapiens against Homo sapiens as well as conflicts between Neanderthals and Neanderthals. So, I’m not sure why there seems to be this persistence of “human (homo sapien) exceptionalism” and that we obviously outcompeted and brutally murdered all of them when the evidence doesn’t suggest this.

[@briebel2684]

Right. The evidence seems to suggest that, more than anything else, neanderthals and denisovans were simply absorbed into the rapidly expanding modern human populations. They live on inside modern humans, and DNA has proven that. There's even a recent find of some 40k year old modem humans in Europe that already had some neanderthal DNA. Not much more than we do now, but it proves they had interbred even earlier. Possibly to 65k years ago according to the article I read.

[@clownpendotfart]

Because they did indeed mostly get wiped out. A small number of interbreeding events is sufficient for some genes to get selected, and that appears to be what happened.

[@196cupcake]

I'd imagine disease, much like how Europeans introduced diseases to Native Americans, also played a role.

[@martijnbouman8874]

Quite the contrary. A large part of the Neanderthal genes that we still have play a role in the immune system. That means that many Neanderthal genes for combating diseases were positively selected for, which means that Neanderthals were, at least in part, better equipped to deal with Eurasian diseases than modern humans.

[@196cupcake]

@@martijnbouman8874 If the humans out of africa carried new pathogens anyone they came in contact with would get cooked.

[@MossyMozart]

@@martijnbouman8874 - The fact that Neanderthal DNA has barriers to various diseases means that they had to have been exposed to start with for those selection mechanisms to be set in motion.

[@LimeyLassen]

I doubt that one, the reason Europeans had so many nasty diseases was because of all our domesticated animals.

[@caden90]

I’m disappointed she didn’t bring up the Sexy Neanderthal Theory: the neanferthals simply interbred with Homo sapiens until they went extinct.

[@pocketmarcy6990]

I mean we know this happened to some extent since some Europeans still have like 5% Neanderthal genes in their DNA

[@rssla4537]

sexy? most probably it looked like we know from our humans history - all men were killed and women taken by force.

[@arvantsaraihan5777]

Some would argue that we're also apex predators too.....

[@glacousxx]

We are

[@Arguments_only]

some? homo sapiens is the apex pr3dator.

[@TheRealWormbo]

There's a reason most animals are instinctively afraid of humans.

[@glacousxx]

@TheRealWormbo we have better stamina than the whole animal kingdom we cant outrun them in speed but we can run long long distances for long times so that they get tired. We have way better cognitive system and our brain to body ratio is the best . We literally are the apex predator. Reflexes, temperature change recognition,so many more things that are just naturally present.......

[@glacousxx]

@@TheRealWormbowe have better stamina than the whole animal kingdom we cant outrun them in speed but we can run long long distances for long times so that they get tired. We have way better cognitive system and our brain to body ratio is the best . We literally are the apex predator. Reflexes, temperature change recognition,so many more things that are just naturally present.......

[@rl9217]

Cave Lion and Palaeoloxodon: “We’re immune from predation, right?” Neanderthals: “…” Cave Lion and Palaeoloxodon: “Right?”

[@maxwirt921]

@@rl9217 Neanderthals: “Hold my beer”🍺

[@MossyMozart]

@@maxwirt921 - Or, "Hold my spear."

[@maxwirt921]

@ 😂

[@secondbeamship]

They must be smarter than the average Human because I can’t imagine the planning required to pull this off.

[@Eloraurora]

Cultural knowledge and cooperation. None of the complicated things we do now were any one person's independent invention, either.

[@sparkyfromel]

Pretty strong is an understatement , to compare them to Sapiens Sapiens is to compare a tank to a Toyota

[@davesatxify]

fantastic video. thank you

[@rubenkoker1911]

hunter hunted pleistoscene edition

[@MorrisJohn-vo2vn]

I mean, Homosapiens are/did become Apex predators themselves.

[@feliche2292]

Dope

[@Mikey__R]

Did the Neanderthals have the shoulder mobility to even draw a heavy hunting bow? I seem to remember reading that Homo Erectus didn't have the mobility to throw a spear.

[@alexhooijschuur5131]

It was a lot more cumbersome for them to raise their arms above their orbit, due to more robust musculature-- the area served as an anchor point for comparatively large muscle groups in the arms and shoulders. They could probably draw a bow decently I imagine, perhaps not as well as modern humans, but it's worth pointing out that being unable to throw spears well overhead and adapting to closer quarters hunting/lower distance underhand tossing would have also made it a bigger leap for Neanderthals to develop archery since it would be a bigger departure from their hunting style compared to Humans who made the same leap from overhead throwing/atalatls.

[@vinny184]

@@alexhooijschuur5131 using projectiles also works better when you’re a persuit predator.

[@pekoro70]

FYI, I ordered your book "Strange creatures" from Amazon exactly 1 month ago. They just informed me that it will not arrive in time for Xmas, so I had to cancel the order

[@skyedog24]

The one announcing is harder to look at than Neanderthals

[@RabidJohn]

I'd argue that Neanderthals did not 'disappear entirely', because they remain in our genes. Homo sapiens comes only from sub-Saharan Africa; the rest of us are stable Homo sapiens x neanderthalensis hybrids. A more technologically advanced species of human moving in and decimating (and occasionally breeding with) the existing population sounds awfully familiar.

[@edgarallenhoe3518]

Let's go! I'm finally early enough to ask some questions. 1. What's up with the end-cambrian extinction? In "the extinction that never happened" (aug 2017), y'all said that we used to think there was an extinction event at the end of the cambrian period, but it turned out to be a gap in the fossil record. But in later videos (such as "from the cambrian explosion to the great dying" (feb 2028) there are references to a cambrian-ordovician extinction event. Did later research point in a different direction, or am I missing some nuance (like there was an extinction event, it was just a lot smaller or more spread out than we thought)?

[@edgarallenhoe3518]

2. I've been thinking a lot about the braided stream model of human evolution-- could you speak more about what implications this holds for non-human evolution? Presumably we're not the only ones who evolved like this (and you mention us observing it in other animals like lizards), but wouldn't that kind of break our branching cladogram models? Does it only affect things on a smaller timescale, so when you zoom out we can still say that x and y organism have a single common ancestor that lived at a particular time and can be represented by a single node on a diagram? Or are we lacking enough evidence to paint a more accurate picture, even though it would affect how we talk about phylogeny?

[@BananaCake26]

There are three known, small scale extinction events in the upper third of the Cambrian, of which the Cambrian-Ordovician event 485 ma forms the boundary between the two periods.

[@leggonarm9835]

I'm 4% Neanderthal and I'll tell you that my bone mass is at least 8%. I can only imagine a full blood Neanderthal's strength.

[@takenname8053]

Didn't know Neanderthals were freaky like that... Eating elephant feet...

[@suntaog]

They were way too smart to sneak up on a lioness. Or any other large cat. They hunted while the big cat slept.

[@FatherOfDeinos]

Nico Robin? That can’t be a real person. That’s the archeologist character from One Piece.

[@jammysmears4077]

Curry with meat 2p Curry with named meat 4p Curry with cat meat 6p Curry with real cat meat 8p Curry with Eurasian cave lion meat 10p -CMOT Dibbler

[@rbb9753]

This comment is NOT getting enough votes.

[@kathykuecker]

@@rbb9753 They don't know who Cut My Own Throat Dibbler is.

[@blyan4g]

Is it the steady march of time, or something about the demographics of Eons vs Discworld fans?

[@SamudraSanyal]

Please make an episode about the newly described Homo Jululensis

[@MorrisJohn-vo2vn]

I doubt the apex predator explanation because as you said, they hunted everything. Elephants dying off says little of the availability of deer or shellfish. Tho, I guess the explanation could work with a combination of other things.

[@evanm.7945]

I feel like y’all have spoken about how large animal hunting for homo sapians was less spears as projectiles and more as polearms where the weapon is planted in the ground. Was that the case for Neanderthals? Especially cause I think you talked about in other videos humans being much better “throwers” than Neanderthals for length/moment arm reasons

[@TragoudistrosMPH]

Its really interesting that they did not adopt our bow technology. (As far as evidence shoes).

[@raphaelgarcia9576]

How long could a Neanderthal survive today?

[@GeorgeP1066]

Indefinitely? Or until they caught a disease they don't have an immunity to? They didn't go extinct due to any inherent inability to survive, they were just less able to adapt to drastically changing circumstances than our ancestors were.

[@keithfaulkner6319]

Teach them football and they'll dominate the NFL.

[@taputechnic]

I haven't watched the video yet, but was there a monolith involved?

[@JFSmith-nb8hf]

They are still around, I see them the street every day.😆

[@coreysimmons4519]

We may have intermingled and outbred them. We definitely did breed with them, possibly for around seven thousand years before their extinction, and with our lack of taxonmical knowledge and similarity to them we likely didn't recognise them as a seperate species

[@shuriken4573]

I thought that the main hypothesis was neanderthals interbred with early humans, who had a much larger population, until their genes were diluted and assimilated into homosapiens' (our) genome. Did something change?

[@jamesonpace726]

That "poor cave lion"? Brutal? Sure. Necessary? Yes. 'Cuz a guy's gotta eat, after all....

[@jamesleatherwood5125]

I wonder how many Cro Magnon/Homo Sapiens got smacked in the face by a branch moved outta the way by the guy in front before one if them went "ooh! The sproingy thing about bent branches can put its force into a tiny spear insteada my face!"

[@runsi174]

I recently read paper about how they described Denisovans as Homo Juluensis i think it was published last week so probably finally they got their species named properly.

[@rodrialg98]

Paleoloxodon NAMADICUS was the largest ever, not antiquus

[@greygoregoose]

The art in this is gorgeous

[@Cursethedawn]

I'm curious what they did with all that meat? Do we know if they cooked meat or did they probably eat it raw?

[@123FireSnake]

same here, 13 tonnes, that's gonna feed a family for a long damn time :D

[@Meraxes6]

They had fire so they definitely cooked and probably knew how to smoke meat

[@luukrutten1295]

Smoking and drying it at the spot would be the most obvious solution. That would at least make it last a long time and more digestable. But it would also require the coordination to build some smokers / drying assembly on the hunting spot. You probably wouldn't want to move all that material very far.

[@Cursethedawn]

@@Meraxes6 Then I'd love to hang out with them. lol

[@bobjardic2741]

No offense to the others in the Homo genus, but Neanderthal will always be the coolest to learn about.

[@mellissadalby1402]

So was it only the Homo Sapiens who made use of the Atlatl for spear throwing?

[@lavioliberty8066]

No mean feat with all that feet meat. I know you are a native American, but your expression is just so so so typical east Asian 😂

[@Spiritstage]

Happy ice age day

[@salvationude-natha398]

How come Europeans suddenly love to associate themselves with the Neantherthals? This wasn’t the was 2 centuries ago

[@ethan5.56]

Noiiiice

[@Cinnatus]

Older beast males! +25 Life due to stress loss from solitude.

[@TheTigerKing-w3b]

Neanderthals weren’t apex predators. They were preyed on by lions

[@radrod4828]

Apex nerdy goth

[@onemercilessming1342]

I've found Cruella DeVil. She's narrating PBS. Sans furs.

[@billkallas1762]

Did Neanderthals in Europe go extinct around 40,000 years ago, or did they disappear because of cross breeding with modern humans? Would female Neanderthals have been more attracted to human males, because they were better hunters??

[@salvationude-natha398]

How did we push them off their tuff they’ve held for thousands of years? You literally just said they were better hunters and we underestimated them for too long?

[@vinny184]

currently it’s thought that their higher caloric needs is what caused them to go extinct.

[@salvationude-natha398]

@ Did animals cease to exist in Eurasia?

[@alexhansen2102]

Hell yeah, generalist supremacy

[@alekseyfedorov3544]

Thousands years of homo sapiense war history lead researchers to believe, that it was simply peaceful outcompeting. 😅

[@sunny_muffins]

Did Neandertals also eat Homo Sapiens?

[@neomatrix4412]

what about Homo juluensis homo longi

[@muhammedateeqmdj5349]

Badass

[@michaeleisenberg7867]

Michelle, Thank you for this most interesting video 🎥. Absolute units! 🏋️‍♂️ I'd love to field an NFL team with all neanderthals. 🏈 💣

[@maxwirt921]

I thought we bread Neanderthals out of existence?

[@glacousxx]

😂😂 that's insane

[@2l84t]

Guess you need to do some research.

[@maxwirt921]

@@2l84t Indeed I do. Hence the question. I know that there are people in Europe and Asia with Neanderthal DNA & I thought I had heard somewhere that interbreeding was a leading hypothesis on why they they went extinct.

[@tommachin8705]

it was probably a combination of things. Since there were never very many of them and alot of us. We probably did breed them out in places since we carry their DNA today and that DNA has slowly been replaced and switched off over the last 10k years or so.

[@tommachin8705]

I replace the 10k years with 40k years.

[@sev-nutz8524]

Feet meat 🍖

[@pipe2devnull]

A treat.

[@rainbow_doglover8301]

Why do so many depictions of the hunting and the preparing of food show only male Neanderthals? Even if it's not clear who did what, surely only males weren't doing both? That doesn't make sense.

[@gnoccialpesto]

The ladies were indoors, preparing salads, talking about the latest fashion and getting drunk on prosecco. 😜

[@LimeyLassen]

Maybe the artists think male neanderthals are hot ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@avaboaudione]

feet

[@az9324]

Who else is watching this right now ?

[@LOSKOSKI]

I was trying to until you rudely interrupted. (Just kidding). 😂✌️

[@AceAlbatros]

Literally everyone, that’s how videos work.

[@Shift18]

​@AceAlbatros I'm not watching I'm just chillin in the comments

[@michaelmayhem350]

Literally no one

[@mattsmith344]

Me

[@mathsonbeshy5651]

super damn early this time

[@Nightscape_]

Thank you so much for pronouncing Neandertals correctly!

[@msytdc1577]

As you misspell it, ironic.

[@dnstone1127]

Ape -x predator.

[@gamingxmachina6718]

First time I have been this early for a video.

[@Puddin-Tamir]

Really pushing this narrative, meanwhile we know of the art and ritual burials...

[@eltiospike7672]

Neanthertal: *Learns to build and throw spears* All other animals in existence: Yeah we are finished

[@matthewmurren2210]

So i would be right in feeling vulnerable around a neanderthal female 😅

[@JPMgeo]

It's great that these apex, megafauna predators were hunted themselves. So they finally knew what it was like in their last moments.

[@KingTFD]

Could say the same about the human hunters

[@Wolfie54545]

This explains the extinction of large saber toothed cats! Competition with human species.

[@falkkiwiben]

I first read "Netherlands" so now I'm disappointed. I'll have to look elsewhere for a video on Indonesian history

[@drstone3418]

Mixing and Judging by bone structure dominate epigenetics there were more neanderthal women with sapien men the sapien women with neanderthal men

[@MorrisJohn-vo2vn]

Or maybe the majority of Sapien women with Neanderthal Men went extinct with the rest of the Neanderthals, strongly arguing for both species being patriarchal.

[@drstone3418]

Life always harder on males as nature intends . That's why its called taking advantage. Males ate supposed to have the advantage