When Panzers Raced Against Time to Save the 6th Army at Stalingrad

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@jamesmullikin3045
@jamesmullikin3045 Жыл бұрын
That is the downside of blitzkrieg battle doctrine, if your opponent isn't knocked out with a decisive blow. there isn't a plan B only blitzkrieg.
@MD21037
@MD21037 6 ай бұрын
It would've been interesting to see how things would've gone if Manstein had the 12 divisions he had requested, and assembled in time for this operation.
@user-vk6tn1ie7k
@user-vk6tn1ie7k 2 ай бұрын
Esp with unlimited land to retreat into.
@tjanderson5892
@tjanderson5892 Ай бұрын
The biggest flaw w/ the blitzkrieg is that it inherently leaves your flanks wide open and vulnerable. If you're defending against it then it's not actually a bad idea to just avoid the heavy armor up front entirely and counter attack its flanks. You just have to make sure you dont allow yourself to get encircled or its gg well played
@dittoditto7283
@dittoditto7283 Жыл бұрын
It's not called the 6th Panzer Division for nothing. The army's commander throughout its existence, SS-Oberstgruppenführer Josef Dietrich said in early 1945: "We call ourselves the 6th Panzer Army, because we've only got 6 Panzers left. LOL
@ToddiusMaximus
@ToddiusMaximus Жыл бұрын
The eastern front was insane
@daleburrell6273
@daleburrell6273 Жыл бұрын
...THAT'S THE TRUTH-(!)
@JohnEglick-oz6cd
@JohnEglick-oz6cd Жыл бұрын
My mom's pop was kia at Kursk mid July 1943 . He was a major in the 2nd Waffen SS Panzer Grenadier "DAS REICH " Div . Her uncle was a Colonel in the Luftwaffe , kia when his FW190 was shot near Anzio , Italy early March 1944 .
@partygrove5321
@partygrove5321 Жыл бұрын
Glad he bought it @@JohnEglick-oz6cd
@JohnEglick-oz6cd
@JohnEglick-oz6cd Жыл бұрын
@@partygrove5321 I don't think he got any food allowance to buy food ; whether it was my mother s pop , or uncle . Hope that's what you meant . My mom went through hell fleeing the USA nslaught of the Soviet military juggernaut barreling it's way toward Berlin . She wound up in Leipzig , Germany ,vAnd witnessed bitter street fighting between American , and Nazi forces . Eventually she was sexually assaulted by an American soldier(s) . She had nightmares for years , but she was alleviated of that by being prescribed psych meds , which stop taking as she got better about 26 years ago . Part of her nightmares was the harrowing time her brother ,vAnd sister , andmom had in escaping Communist East Germany in 1948;.She and her sister , and bro ade it unscathed to the Western part of Germany .
@hauntedmoodylady
@hauntedmoodylady Жыл бұрын
I very much commend them, you, and your memory of them..
@davidkubik537
@davidkubik537 Жыл бұрын
thi is some good quality stuff, thanks for this, love the sounds background
@FactBytes
@FactBytes Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@davidkubik537
@davidkubik537 Жыл бұрын
if I may ask what is the source of your material ? its pretty detailed regaring this important operation @@FactBytes
@tonnywildweasel8138
@tonnywildweasel8138 Жыл бұрын
Excellent vid! Thanks, appreciate it a lot 👍 Greets from the Netherlands ✌, T.
@FactBytes
@FactBytes Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@alexbowman7582
@alexbowman7582 Жыл бұрын
Panzer general Hans Valentin Hube was ordered by Hitler to fly out the kessel to which he replied “I took my men into Stalingrad, I’ve ordered them to fight to the last bullet, I intend to stay and show them how”. Hitler sent in some of his personal SS guards and an unsuspecting Hube was ordered to Paulus’s HQ where he was jumped by the SS guards and dragged onto a plane out with a pistol at his head. Just over 1 year later Hube died in a plane crash.
@kiowhatta1
@kiowhatta1 Жыл бұрын
It has been proven Manstein procrastinated and never gave the actual breakout order even though Paulus urged him to do so.
@jameswebber2943
@jameswebber2943 Жыл бұрын
nonsense
@anthonyaguirretorres3540
@anthonyaguirretorres3540 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2Wbg2htqpp1eqc@@jameswebber2943
@Le42975
@Le42975 Жыл бұрын
It's true Holy Mannstein never did!
@captainhurricane5705
@captainhurricane5705 Жыл бұрын
Let me rephrase your comment - It has been proven that Hitler procrastinated and never gave the actual breakout order even though Manstein urged him to do so.
@jayo3074
@jayo3074 Жыл бұрын
Pure rubbish
@creightonleerose582
@creightonleerose582 11 ай бұрын
These vids are interesting, well done bearing top-notch editing/production value(s)! Thank you for sharing these historical data-points & participants accounts with us. A short 15 min vid takes some serious TIME to assemble, present & properly narrate. That fact isnt lost on me...;) I'd read in one of my books an account of either a panzer crewmen or associated/attached MOT panzer-grenadier trooper from within the pocket, being pretty close to the MLR/Axis=Allied termination lines, well outside/West of Stalingrad city limits proper. He'd said the weather was near blizzard/white out conditions during the OP, w/knee, thigh or even waist deep snow drifts in many places, he recalled the sense of buoyancy & lift in spirits of just hearing of the coming plan concerning the relief corridor being punched through to them... -Then when they began hearing the distant sounds of combat, flashes n' deep thumps on the horizon, growing ever n' ever closer by the hour, by the coming/nearing volume of sounds, flash & thunder of it all. Many of those motorized forward units had received orders & began furiously busying themselves with readying/inspecting/fueling/arming equipment, no matter how exhausted they or their machines may have been. As they would be the very units used to punch
@jameswebber2943
@jameswebber2943 Жыл бұрын
amazing footage and great material
@FactBytes
@FactBytes Жыл бұрын
Thanks for visiting
@edward6902
@edward6902 Жыл бұрын
Manstein never gave that breakout order to Paulus on December 19th
@MunchyDean-h8x
@MunchyDean-h8x Жыл бұрын
He should have done so as later Eric Manstein pulled out of Rostov and was able to stop General (spelling here?) Chukov and later retake Rostov and prolong the end of the war so yes he should have said break out , however those decisions were mostly down to the great battlefield fool , the corporal from Bohemia Hitler himself.
@MD21037
@MD21037 6 ай бұрын
Hitler would've forbade it anyway.
@briankorbelik2873
@briankorbelik2873 4 ай бұрын
Von Mansrein did everything but. It was Paulu's fault. He was a great staff officer, but had no place on the battlefield. Too bad fot the Germans that thaey didn't have a Model, Hube, von Manstein, or a Bayerlein commanding 6th Army. Instead they had a pencil pusher.
@kolla5415
@kolla5415 4 ай бұрын
Even if he gave the order, Hitler would refused the order and gave the hold at all cost order to Paulus.
@AlaskaErik
@AlaskaErik Жыл бұрын
Contrary to what was stated in the video von Manstein never issued the breakout order to 6th Army.
@davidkubik537
@davidkubik537 Жыл бұрын
this might be true,but also not, everyone can lie
@AlaskaErik
@AlaskaErik Жыл бұрын
@@davidkubik537 It's pretty well documented.
@davidkubik537
@davidkubik537 Жыл бұрын
it is not, basicaly what youre saying is that everything what is in Mansteins memoirs is right,well myself i dont believe it and stick to the narrative of this vid, doesnt matter anyway..@@AlaskaErik
@AlaskaErik
@AlaskaErik Жыл бұрын
@@davidkubik537 von Mannstein's version of WW 2 lays all the blame of his failures on others. Consider it a work of fiction with some elements of actual history in it.
@dedejod1199
@dedejod1199 Жыл бұрын
True
@briankorbelik2873
@briankorbelik2873 4 ай бұрын
Von Hunersdorff and Franz Bake will be heard from again. 57th Panzer Korps achieved wonders considering it's size. However, before, during, and after Winterstorm, the 11th Panzer Division, (the Ghost Division from their adopted logo and the 16th Motorized Infantry Division, continually created small miracles from the German side. The 11th Panzer,before, during,and after,Winter Storm, would March into position all night, then fight during the days, over and over for weeks, and only gawd knows the times that they were successful at that. The 11th Panzer Division was Das Heer's miracle division. And one of the best PD's ever. This info I read in the late '60's from, Paul Carrell's " Hitler Moves East". And then there was the then 16th Motorized InfantryPanzergrenadier division, who got to the Astrakan rail line and dispensed false info to the rail yard in far off Asrtakan.
@rogercude1459
@rogercude1459 Жыл бұрын
Stalin was always worried that the Allies would work out a deal with Hitler so they didn't have to invade Europe. That way he could bring all his forces to the East.
@adrianariaratnam5817
@adrianariaratnam5817 Жыл бұрын
A well narrated piece, with excellent footage. Thanks.
@FactBytes
@FactBytes Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@jasonmussett2129
@jasonmussett2129 Жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary. Great footage. Thanks👍
@FactBytes
@FactBytes Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@jasonmussett2129
@jasonmussett2129 Жыл бұрын
@@FactBytes you're welcome😀
@obedlucksom5636
@obedlucksom5636 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, i have always been eager that even Heinz Guderian couldnot save the 6th army, i have heard that he nearly made it to the 6th army.
@jameswebber2943
@jameswebber2943 Жыл бұрын
I think you are confused with Moscow in 1941
@obedlucksom5636
@obedlucksom5636 Жыл бұрын
@@jameswebber2943 you ignorant dont speak what you dont know abt, hope in your dreams you have heard abt fighting at Moscow.
@captainhurricane5705
@captainhurricane5705 Жыл бұрын
lmao
@BlorbusUnimax
@BlorbusUnimax Жыл бұрын
there was no greater commander than manstein, in modern history
@obedlucksom5636
@obedlucksom5636 Жыл бұрын
@@BlorbusUnimax yes, he was a grest strategists, his ideas are even used today on modern battlefield.
@mikesbaseballcards
@mikesbaseballcards 2 ай бұрын
Great combat footage I've never seen b4. When i see this footage i just can't believe my Opa survived the eastern front in Army Group South. He was at the Maikop oilfields & Sebastopol. Was a Corporal. I actually have a photo of my Opa on the eastern front with a fellow soldier standing in the snow next to a kubelwagen. My Uncle Willie was captured by the Russians sent to Siberia & didn't come back until 1955. He was at our house one time when I was a little boy & was so drunk my Tante Martha had to take him home.
@billd2635
@billd2635 Ай бұрын
Decent doc, Thanx for this Some good footage here
@phillipchapman169
@phillipchapman169 Жыл бұрын
I incredible and sad for brother to kill brother. The war between Russia and Germany shows in no matter how well trained, or how good the equipment or tactics or strategy, or even how determined one is. If you haven’t got the numbers to realistically see it through you are far less likely to win and almost certainly likely to lose big - all the way to Berlin it seems. Russia had the numbers, Germany didn’t. If your going to fight a titan, you’d damn best be sure you made all necessary considerations and preparations, or don’t bother at all. I wonder if as I hear Mr H felt it was only a matter of time before Russia attacked West, he’d have faired better not exhausting his forces trying to conquer, but used the time to dig in and prepare. Then maybe the Russians will have been similarly ground down in their attacks and the people of Russia and Stalin’s armies may have become demoralised compared to the fervour and grit they had when defending their homeland and then pressing on to Berlin. Attacking scenarios often seem to use a greater amount of resources compared to a well dug in defence where you pick off your enemy as they come to you. Says me the arm chair general not 😂 . How about we don’t fight each other and just get on with our lives.
@fazole
@fazole Жыл бұрын
He couldn't "dig in". He was getting oil from the USSR and his economy was dependent on it, since there were embargoes against Germany. Furthermore, he wanted OUT of the international trade and banking system in order to achieve autarchy. He needed oil, raw materials and land to supply his idea of empire, just as Great Britain had those things. Therefore, due to his plans, the only course was to conquer Russia and Ukraine. This has all been researched in many books.
@scottjoseph9578
@scottjoseph9578 Жыл бұрын
​​@fazole Yes, but Stalin was supplying him. Supplying 2 more Panzer divisions in Africa and not invading Russia would have driven the British out of the Middle East. With that oil, and the ability to go North from Iran, the Russian German War would have gone differently. Hitler never thought methodically, Thank God. You understand, I'm discussing a change in April, 1941. No reason not to hold off invading Russia.
@mirandela777
@mirandela777 Жыл бұрын
If H. had 2 working braincells, and made a full trade pact with Stalin, and NOT EVER attacking on the East, we all would speak german today in Europe, and who knows, even worldwide... The best german troops free to block Normandy, raw materials and oil from Russia, will be no disembark from allies, Britain eventually collapse, and murica was busy with Japan more than enough to care too much about Europe. Just do the math : 9 of 10 germans died in East fighting Russia ( URSS). If these 9 were available in Europe, US and UK could never set foot in France.
@johnnyb2909
@johnnyb2909 Жыл бұрын
stalin said that without allied lend lense they would have lost in 42. The germans didnt count with the enourmos lend lense
@mirandela777
@mirandela777 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyb2909 - BS dude, Stalin never said that ! Why do you invent BS ?? Do you think peoples are illiterate idiots who believe any BS you wrote ?
@Gnosis639
@Gnosis639 Жыл бұрын
If the 6th Panzers were sent to the east on 14 Nov 1942 how was their mission to save the 6th Army? Operation Uranus didn't kick off until the 18th and the Army wasn't officially surrounded until the 22nd of November. More than likely they were en route to the east when Uranus began and were redirected to Stalingrad. Also, the Stalingrad relief force was never promised 12 divisions. Manstein asked for 12 divisions but was never told by OKH he would receive those 12 divisions. The 5 divisions that gathered for the operation were scrapping the bottom of German manpower at the moment as the Soviets launched Operation Mars on Army Group Center maybe a week after Uranus, which was a larger operation than the one at Stalingrad. The operation never called for the 6th Army to break out to the Myshovska(don't no spelling don't feel like looking it up) river. The 6th army didn't have enough fuel or ammunition to fight their way that far and was clear about that from the beginning. Manstein never ordered the breakout, he lied in his book about the 6th Army to save his prestige. Paulus never ordered his army to break out because he knew it was absolutely impossible for his Army to make it that far. The problem is most historians take their information from Manstein and it has been proven through records that he lied..... ALOT.
@kiowhatta1
@kiowhatta1 Жыл бұрын
The only hope in relieving Stalingrad Manstein proposed was to give him operational freedom over the 1st Pz army in the Caucasus. While risky, significant armoured units like the III Pz Corps and SS Wiking could have been withdrawn North to give Manstein the necessary forces. Manstein said to Hitler: ‘give me operational freedom over all of army group South and I will give you the oil of the Caucasus.’ This was the only option available and if 57th Pz Corps could almost reach Stalingrad then those additional forces might have had the strength to breakthrough-and even perhaps retain a position near the general area. Additionally, the II SS Pz Corps ought to have been rushed asap to the area despite it being involved in Case Anton, the occupation of Vichy France? What the hell was it doing there when standard German divisions could have done the job. Also, the evacuation of the Rhzev salient would have shortened the line in AGC’s area which held the 2nd & 3rd Pz armies. Every risk should have been taken to rescue 6th army which consisted of many valuable divisions capable of being rehabilitated, re-equipped and aided in the overall plan to retake the original positions on the Volga. I’ll never understand why Hitler didn’t allow Manstein a free hand in throwing the absolute very last gamble to stay in the war.
@captainhurricane5705
@captainhurricane5705 Жыл бұрын
Because Hitler was an idiot
@obedlucksom5636
@obedlucksom5636 Жыл бұрын
Hitler was delusional, he didnt care for his soldiers, your indepth analysis are amazing, thanks for the post.
@Axelfl6161
@Axelfl6161 Жыл бұрын
Hitler by that time was a physical and mental wreck and wouldn’t listen.
@ElbertWR
@ElbertWR Жыл бұрын
It would have been too little too late.
@DavidKalnbach-vm3xc
@DavidKalnbach-vm3xc Жыл бұрын
...because...the Germans did back then what we R doing now...ever hear of the Peter-Priniple ? it states that U must promote everyone to their own level of highest incompetency....
@russbrown6453
@russbrown6453 Жыл бұрын
Wow Love that footage!
@FactBytes
@FactBytes Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@RememberingWW2
@RememberingWW2 Жыл бұрын
18:12 Manstien never gave Paulus the "Thunderclap" breakout order. This is false.
@Jan.99
@Jan.99 Жыл бұрын
Cool stuff... Panzers were known to fight well however, they couldn't go beyond their limits as a matter of fact
@jasonmack896
@jasonmack896 Жыл бұрын
If paulus had initiative to make a breakout its possible that some would have made it
@skrayraja
@skrayraja Жыл бұрын
Had Paulua been allowed to break out of stalingrad, at least some of his men would have survived to fight another day. One more of Hitlers mistakes
@asullivan4047
@asullivan4047 Жыл бұрын
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what/whom the orator was describing. Special thanks to veteran soldiers/civilians Sharing personal information/combat experiences. Enabling historians to replicate diaries/memoirs for future generations to better appreciate the hardships/sacrifices that those in combat endured. A valiant effort but it was all in vain to save the surrounded Stalingrad German military forces. The WW-1 dispatch runner 🏃‍♀️ corporal Hitler. Was to blame for that catastrophic military operations failure.
@jimcase3097
@jimcase3097 Жыл бұрын
Very cool 💯
@genekelly8467
@genekelly8467 Жыл бұрын
They never had a chance..plus Hitler ordered 6th Army to "stand fast and no retreats". Hitler had already written them off (and promoted Paulus to Field Marshal so he's commit suicide).
@bernardantoinerouffaer7578
@bernardantoinerouffaer7578 Жыл бұрын
Très bien fait.
@michaelcodelmar9547
@michaelcodelmar9547 Жыл бұрын
Could have saved the 6th army if they were allowed to retreat early ..could have made a breakthrough...but wasn't meant to be ..Wrong clip during that time there were still no Tigers but Panzers Mark III and IV
@jameswebber2943
@jameswebber2943 Жыл бұрын
there are no Tigers I this clip
@stevelopez372
@stevelopez372 Жыл бұрын
True, and Hitlers no retreat order really meant fight to the last man. Over 75,000 German troops marched off to Siberia. A tiny percentage would ever see home again.
@mohammedsaysrashid3587
@mohammedsaysrashid3587 Жыл бұрын
Germans always fought furiously and stubbornly during WW2. 6 panzer army did the best they could to rescue 6 army in Stalingrad while General Manstein was not allowed 6 army to launched breaking out operations in meantime Adolf Hitler was not permitted General Paulus to retreat one meter from front lines...this video clearly explained and showed the bleak circumstances and furiously attacks of 6 panzer army to penetrating the encirculment form out of Stalingrad pockets.
@juhopuhakka2351
@juhopuhakka2351 Жыл бұрын
tik has very interesting series about this.
@joegrossinger3381
@joegrossinger3381 Жыл бұрын
Yes the Germans had great soldiers. So did the Russians, Brits, Americans and the rest. There was no braver soldier than Americans going up against Tiger tanks with the early M4 Shermans. Those were real soldiers with real guts taking a real beating and still coming out on top.
@juhopuhakka2351
@juhopuhakka2351 Жыл бұрын
@@joegrossinger3381 They had shit loads of artillery,total control of skies,unlimited fuel and ammo,and numerical superority at least 5:1.But you are right,then there were cowards and heroes in all armies including Italy.
@charlesc.9012
@charlesc.9012 Жыл бұрын
@@joegrossinger3381 There were only 4 tigers in France during operation Overlord. Most reported "tigers" were Pz.IV-H and J variants. If you wanted "real" soldiers, the Finnish are unmatched. With no ability to make and maintain tanks, most of their stunning achievements were accomplished with light infantry with no bazookas or heavy AT guns, and against soviet tank units. Despite being outnumbered 3:1 and with no foreign aid, they achieved the best possible outcome against the ussr
@footisman2059
@footisman2059 Жыл бұрын
@@charlesc.9012Soviet troops managed to halt barbarossa, deeming it a complete failure, despite being outnumbered 3-to-1 too but on a much wider front, before proceding to, unlike the finns, win the war through sheer heroism and force of will.
@zoltanszolnoki3093
@zoltanszolnoki3093 11 ай бұрын
Franz Bäke 💥
@davidalexoff1658
@davidalexoff1658 Жыл бұрын
I wonder when, exactly, the Germans figured out, maybe this wasn't such a good idea.
@mirquellasantos2716
@mirquellasantos2716 Жыл бұрын
Those brutes were too violent to get the hint.
@recoil53
@recoil53 Жыл бұрын
Both the Germans and Japanese thought they could somehow turn it around even close to the end. I figure the sane ones that could take a step back started getting that feeling when their offenses were stopped. Look at the logic of come of the Axis operations. Somehow the Ardeness offensive (Battle of the Bulge) if successful was going to physically split the Allies while causing so much dissent that they would make peace with Germany. You know, instead of the Allies just bombing the hell out of the German supply lines and crushing the Germans in Antwerp. Meanwhile, the Japanese kept thinking they could somehow crush the US Navy. The odds were like winning back to back lotteries.
@Axelfl6161
@Axelfl6161 Жыл бұрын
1942
@joegrossinger3381
@joegrossinger3381 Жыл бұрын
When they could not take Moscow.
@davidcunningham2074
@davidcunningham2074 Жыл бұрын
amazing story.
@FactBytes
@FactBytes Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@marcelgroen6256
@marcelgroen6256 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it strange that they had their assignment to free up the 6th army on 14th November as Operation Uranus just started 19th November?
@michaelcodelmar9547
@michaelcodelmar9547 Жыл бұрын
The Russians were just too many...Plain and simple
@warrenlewis3977
@warrenlewis3977 Жыл бұрын
They had plenty of gas too 😂
@oroyodowansingh9127
@oroyodowansingh9127 Жыл бұрын
Simple has that. Nazi Germany crumbled under the Soviet numbers alone.
@СергейЗнамин
@СергейЗнамин Жыл бұрын
Немцев тоже было не мало, но ими управлял авантюрист!
@jayswanginfit8634
@jayswanginfit8634 Жыл бұрын
A valiant effort by the Germans, they were closer to 6th army than I thought.
@AmnesiaGm1
@AmnesiaGm1 Жыл бұрын
Actually not. Even with twice more power they would have not reached them.
@GuitarMan22
@GuitarMan22 Жыл бұрын
Ultimately OKW esp Hilter were stuck in a ww1 mentality. Flexibility in command was needed after the original success of earlier blitzkrieg.
@wattage2007
@wattage2007 11 ай бұрын
I wish we could get humans reading these scripts. This explosion of text to speech technology isn’t cutting it for me.
@robertmartinez4174
@robertmartinez4174 3 ай бұрын
"those Germans lost the war & their country for believing in Hitler". my late father a WW2 veteran of the European theater.
@Dominic_Amoe
@Dominic_Amoe 2 ай бұрын
You know nothing.
@robertmartinez4174
@robertmartinez4174 2 ай бұрын
@@Dominic_Amoe maybe so but my father knew everything about the war in Europe during WW2. he was a guard at a POW camp in France. gestapo and SS . if you weren't there, "You Know Nothing".
@duniagowes
@duniagowes Жыл бұрын
Was it true that Hitler didnt give Paulus permission to retreat & thus joined the 4th Army? Such a mind blowing decision if it's true. Soviet had gathered 2 million army to trap 6 Army with months of preparation. All I know is Paulus was reluctant to break, told Meinstein that his force is too weak with lack of amo,supplies, etc. Please CMIIW.
@RafeHusain
@RafeHusain Жыл бұрын
so many wins yet still lost. Soviet forces have a resilience that is ignored
@jabersawaya7131
@jabersawaya7131 Жыл бұрын
Magnificent attack in dire wether and out numbered in men and equipment
@TheSpritz0
@TheSpritz0 Жыл бұрын
MAYBE with double the force they MIGHT have broken through but too little too late…they are lucky they themselves were not encircled!!
@BlorbusUnimax
@BlorbusUnimax Жыл бұрын
if paulus would have fought at the same time to break out it might have worked
@ElbertWR
@ElbertWR Жыл бұрын
The 6th Army had no fuel, food, ammunition and very few troops available.
@BlorbusUnimax
@BlorbusUnimax Жыл бұрын
they were receiveing at that time 50-100 tons of supplies per day -short the 400 tons necessary but certainly enough to provide for a sizable striking element. This is within a month of being surrounded some reserves were probably on hand. Manstein's relief force had gotten within 20 miles of stalingrad it is conceivable had this been coordinated with an attempted break out a corridor could have been established.@@ElbertWR
@joegrossinger3381
@joegrossinger3381 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! The 6th army was already done for by the time Manstein got around to trying to break them out. @@ElbertWR
@BlorbusUnimax
@BlorbusUnimax Жыл бұрын
it actually wasnt, the breakout was within in 3-4 week of being surrounded. There was still fighting capacity especially given in one direction. It is possible that a breakout could have occurred with the same results of the Cherkassy pocket. I am conceding the 6th army being surrounded at stalingrad allowed Manstein perhaps the most stunning victory of ww2 in halting and destroying the South Russian army front at the end of winter 43. I am just saying there was a possibility for a breakout given that they were at that time getting supplies and the supply chain could have supplied 400 tons a day if Goering had not been put in charge of resupply. A fraction of the German luftwaffe was committed to resupplying the 6th. There are alot of hypotheticals, the whole situation is hypothetical so it is ok to say what if. If the 6th army would have been savedArmy group A and B would have had a tough slog to save themselves and could have led to the the collapse of Army Group South i understand this. @@joegrossinger3381
@JamesJames-jt3ts
@JamesJames-jt3ts Жыл бұрын
Something doesn't make sense here. Those panzer units were assembled for what purpose? To rescue the 6th army from the pocket right? So, if they arrived at 48km from Stalingrad why didn't Paulus receive the order to break from the pocket? If Paulus was not allowed to leave the pocket why this unit was sent there, just to cover the distance and retreat?
@jamesmcdonald5026
@jamesmcdonald5026 Жыл бұрын
The English had broken the German codes, and they passed troop movements on to the Soviet Union. The Germans never had a chance.
@ElbertWR
@ElbertWR Жыл бұрын
They only intercepted a fraction of the German transmissions and of those they could only decode a fraction. The British had no receiving posts in Russia. Germany's real problem was lack of oil. That is why Hitler want to concur the oil fields in the Caucasus, but he and his Generals got distracted by Stalingrad.
@jamesmcdonald5026
@jamesmcdonald5026 Жыл бұрын
@@ElbertWR People in the British government passed along critical information. They told the Soviets that the Germans had weak support on their flanks during the siege of Stalingrad.
@ElbertWR
@ElbertWR Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmcdonald5026 The Russians already knew that the Romanian forces on the flanks were weaker.
@jamesmcdonald5026
@jamesmcdonald5026 Жыл бұрын
@@ElbertWR Perhaps. But it is a fact they did get information. Consider that fact while reviewing the above article.
@ElbertWR
@ElbertWR Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmcdonald5026 Operation Uranus was not the first counter attack on the flanks of the German 6th Army. For months the Russians had been attacking the flanks closer to Stalingrad and incurred tremendous losses. If they had British intel about weaker flanks further west and south held by Romanians they would have attacked there much sooner. The Romanians were actually hard fighters but thinly spread, with little anti tank equipment and they did not receive the German support that was promised.
@yangho8
@yangho8 11 ай бұрын
It was the time german lack of strategic. Soviet already asmass force to drive to rostov. Even the panzer reach stalingrad, they could also cut out. But stalin affaird the 6th army escaped so he asked generals modified the plan. It helped german bought time for 4th tank army escaped but 6th army fate sealed
@TheZdojcin
@TheZdojcin Жыл бұрын
No way that 6th army would be saved. The Russians had Zukov the genius
@1974charlatan
@1974charlatan Жыл бұрын
Zhukov is vastly overated as a military commander,if you have an endless supply of men and casualties mean nothing to you then its easy to just keep pouring troops into the fray even his own troops called him " the butcher" the loss rate in his forces would not have been accepted in any other army essentialy zhukov was fighting ww2 with ww1 tactics
@billd2635
@billd2635 Ай бұрын
At 18:00 Right there, thats where the "Blitzkrieg" image is misunderstood by so many Most of the infantry either walked or rode on horse-drawn wagons And this was tried in Winter no less?
@Bledi838
@Bledi838 Жыл бұрын
What an heroic fight under such weather conditions of the 6-th Panzer division!
@mirandela777
@mirandela777 Жыл бұрын
Heroic or plain stupid ?? Logistics ! They run out of ammo long before they could get near, and even IF they could enter Stalingrad - what the f... they could do there ? With no ammo, no fuel, no food ?? Idiots.... this was just a propaganda sacrifice, and ze germans, always brainwashed to follow their leaders to the hell, just swallow not only the hook but the line as well. Only an idiot could do something so stupid, lose so many man and armor, for a stupid objective - H. order was clear and loud - NOBODY retreats from Stalingrad - then, I ask - why those idiots rushed there, in first place ?? To do WHAT ??? Maybe they wish to die / fall prisoners - with the others ?? ...
@towgod7985
@towgod7985 Жыл бұрын
Informative video. Robovoice is a pain. Hire a teenager to voice the video if you have to.
@Neapoleone-Buonaparte
@Neapoleone-Buonaparte Жыл бұрын
MEINSTEIN NEVER ISSUES BREAKOUT ORDERS TO PAULUS AND THE 6TH ARMY AT STALINGRAD!
@petetrimble6124
@petetrimble6124 Жыл бұрын
You need to read von Manstein's "Lost Victories" and you would think otherwise. Von Manstein did not want to enter Stalingrad for fear of getting trapped himself. He got within 20km and wanted von Paulus to break out to meet him.
@Neapoleone-Buonaparte
@Neapoleone-Buonaparte Жыл бұрын
@@petetrimble6124 THE LAST BOOK I WANT TO READ IS THAT DISHONORABLE NAZI CELEBRITY VON MEINSTEIN'S SELF-EXCULPATORY AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF LIES, AS WELL AS CONVENIENT SLANDER ON THE HONORABLE HERO VON PAULUS! MEINSTEIN NEVER HAD ANY VICTORIES LOST!
@joegrossinger3381
@joegrossinger3381 Жыл бұрын
The war was all over for Germany when they got kicked back from Moscow.
@GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture
@GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture Жыл бұрын
Exactly. The Germans had more than lost momentum at Moscow, they had lost the aura of invincibility.
@rowdied9829
@rowdied9829 Жыл бұрын
It was lost when they declared war on the US.
@silversurfer640
@silversurfer640 Жыл бұрын
joegrossinger3381 As it turned out, thats probably it.
@JohnEglick-oz6cd
@JohnEglick-oz6cd Жыл бұрын
After the 1st6 months of " Operation Barbarossa " the Germans suffered nearly 800000 casualties . Although , many German positions held , and the Soviet Offensive wore out , the German Army attenuated forces were a result of the 1st 6 mo's. of brutal fighting . Attenuated German forces had a direct result in the not able to take Stalingrad , or capable to give a final knockout blow to take Stalingrad .
@ChrisZukowski88
@ChrisZukowski88 Жыл бұрын
if the Germans had settled down and defended instead of pointlessly driving on Kursk, I think the East wouldve stalemated until the West forced the Germans to retreat.
@josephgraham4531
@josephgraham4531 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't it the 6th army that defeated the french in 1940
@silversurfer640
@silversurfer640 Жыл бұрын
josephgraham4531 Yes it was. Hitler said " the 6th army would march to the moon if I ordered them to".
@Januszekm56
@Januszekm56 3 ай бұрын
The rapid recovery of losses and uninterrupted production ensured the USSR's victory.
@aurorathekitty7854
@aurorathekitty7854 11 ай бұрын
You didn't mention all the prisoners taken at Stalingrad only about 5k would see home again
@georgen.p.6452
@georgen.p.6452 11 ай бұрын
I would like to use these videos with a voice over in another language and re-upload. What's your opinion?
@p5parker
@p5parker Жыл бұрын
Unsere tapferen Soldaten 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@joegrossinger3381
@joegrossinger3381 Жыл бұрын
Yes, German soldiers were tough and brave. So were Russian soldiers, British soldiers and American soldiers. Soldiers, sailors, airmen.
@tkyap2524
@tkyap2524 Жыл бұрын
Despite the harassment by the Russians on the rescue column, success was a whisker away. However, its fighting strength was chipped away and had to retreat or face a rout. The 6th Army could have succeeded in breaking out had Hitler agreed to it. As a fighting force, the Germans were more disciplined. Bad planning can't make up for finesse.
@mirandela777
@mirandela777 Жыл бұрын
What you call "bad planing" I call incompetent, even stupid commanders. Those idiots were sent to die. Most peoples here have no clue even the most mighty tank is just a pile of scrap metal if it not have right on his trails several trucks with fuel, ammo, food, and technicians.
@APOLON-bm7ym
@APOLON-bm7ym Жыл бұрын
If I didnt know the outcome, after 15 minutes I would be convinced they will make it... Nice video, most of us just heard that Panzers failed to relief the 6th army - but they actually caused very heavy losses to SSSR... Germany was winning with inferior tanks and lossing with superior ones. I wonder, if they had jet fighters in 1940 and "big cats" in 1941....
@ElbertWR
@ElbertWR Жыл бұрын
Would not have made much difference, they never had enough oil and fuel for their aircraft and vehicles.
@APOLON-bm7ym
@APOLON-bm7ym Жыл бұрын
@@ElbertWR... and if they managed to take Caucasus oil fields? If USSR failed? If Wehrmacht had soviet supplies? That was their plan...
@lisanalgaib555
@lisanalgaib555 Жыл бұрын
@@APOLON-bm7ym I always wonder why they attacked the USSR when they got the fuel and other supplies by trade. The Soviets delivered all they had agreed in the Molotov Rippentrop pact. To attack the USSR just for supplies, when they can have it by trade makes no sense. Since I have seen some alternative videos, I got the impression they feared the USSR could get too strong and would have attacked them a year later. So, they attacked them in 1941 and hoped they would collapse fast. The supplies would than be available and the danger in the east would have gone.
@APOLON-bm7ym
@APOLON-bm7ym Жыл бұрын
@@lisanalgaib555 Imagine 1940, Wehrmacht ocupied almost all f the Europe, Britain stood alone, but they couldnt do nothing else but try to defend their island. French army was considered stronger than German, yet Wehrmacht erased them in few weeks, together with british expeditionary forces. AH said about soviet army "we just need to kick d door and the whole rotten structure will colapse"... Beside, they didnt attack SSSR jzst for oil, but primarily "living space for master race" and AH thought communism is jewish creation etc.. Watching nowadays situation he was not that wrong when thought "jews rule the world"... He thought jews "infected" Earth, and even if he defeated SSSR he would go further, until last jew (actualy 25% jew)....
@lisanalgaib555
@lisanalgaib555 Жыл бұрын
@@APOLON-bm7ym Well, first of all Britain didn't stood alone. They had their whole empire behind them. Also, Hitler wanted peace with Britain and France. He offered several times a white peace. Churchill didn't want peace. Second why would Hitler need living space? The birth rate in Germany was below 2.1 already in the 1920. He might have speculated on Ukraine's grain, since Germany was on Food Ration after Britain put a trade embargo on Germany. The perception that the USSR was a rotten structure might be a reason why he believed he could win within a summer campaign. But, since I have seen some of the videos (good ones) from a KZbinr called Zoomer Historian, I got a new point of view.
@davidhimmelsbach557
@davidhimmelsbach557 Жыл бұрын
In all the histories, it is omitted that the Soviets were able to decrypt German Enigma signals -- for the first time. The British, via a Soviet mole, (Carincross) were feeding the Reds the critical code key solution every day. They could NOT figure this out on their own. ( They needed Alan Turing's 'bombe' to figure it out. ) The Reds HAD captured an Enigma machine which was -- contrary to orders -- co-located with the Hungarian army -- up north. The Red special forces grabbed it during a white-out. (!) Yes, they found it when you couldn't see your hands in front of your face. The TERRIBLE weather -- especially in the mornings -- is being omitted in every popular account -- both sides. But, it's grounding the Luftwaffe until the afternoon, every day. The fresh snow, every night, was removing all evidence of Red anti-tank guns. THESE are what was destroying the panzers. They were demoralized by these ambush kills, of course. THIS is why the generals stopped the panzer thrust. The unending amounts of anti-tank positions did to the 6th Panzer what minefields have done to the Ukrainian counter-offensive of 2023. That is, they just took tanks out of the equation. At this very hour, the UA is absorbed with de-mining. That's why the counter-offensive has 'stalled.' It'll pick back up once the liberated zone is cleaned up. In the meantime, it's a total shoot-'em up... attrition warfare.
@kovesp1
@kovesp1 Жыл бұрын
"... feeding the Reds the critical code key solution every day. " They could not do that, becasue there was no full break into the Enigma since the Poles accomplished that in the mid 1930-s. Turing's Bombe was just a further elaboration of Rejewski's Bomba the plans of which were handed to the Brits in 1939. The Bombe, together with Turing's heuristics ("Banbarismus" and "Turringery") only enabled breaks on some days, but not on others. As well, Enigma was used for tactical traffic between OKW/OKH and Army Groups, not for strategic traffic ... that was transmitted using the Lorenz SZ40 (and later SZ42A/SZ42B) which was partially broken in 1942 and fully (using Colossus built by Tommy Flowers and Max Newman with minor input from Turing) at the end of 1943. Enigma traffic was transmitted by radio and there was no concievable reason that tactical message traffic pertaining to the Eastern Front would be transmitted in Western Europe ... the only radio traffic that could be monitored in the UK. And of course the Soviets could not figure it out on their own, becasue neither could the Brits and Fench. It was due to a decade of pionerring work by Marian Rejewski, Henryk Zygalski and Jerzy Różycki in the Polish Cipher Bureauwhich the Brits received on a platter. Conclusion: your claim of Cairncross passing Engima initial settings of the day to the Soviets makes no sense becasue the Brits were able to work those out only intermittently on a day-by-day basis, sometimes so late in the day that the decyrpts were no longer of much use. Passing decrypted traffic makes even less sense, since the pertinent traffic could not be monitored in the UK. And in any case, how could Cairncross pass large amounts of decrypts?
@Radrook353
@Radrook353 4 ай бұрын
So Hitler expected that tank army to fight its way into Stalingrad and get trapped as well?
@jacobjonm0511
@jacobjonm0511 Жыл бұрын
where were tiger tanks in this operation?
@calebrush3833
@calebrush3833 Жыл бұрын
Nice cushy set up in France , "'Right lads load up ,we're off to the Eastern front '.
@aurathedraak7909
@aurathedraak7909 Жыл бұрын
Too bad this wasn't in color, that would be neat. But I know I know.
@aaweys5909
@aaweys5909 11 ай бұрын
I am not nazi sympathiser, I’m also not judging who’s write who’s wrong, but I solute those man who sacrificed their lives to rescue, their flow country man.
@gaborkorthy8355
@gaborkorthy8355 Жыл бұрын
"Paulus was not the type of general to disobey an order even if that were in the best interest of his army" said it all.
@Radrook353
@Radrook353 4 ай бұрын
Well, he wasn't that finicky when it finally came down to his own survival.
@marklandon9058
@marklandon9058 Жыл бұрын
...and thus Stalingrad was relieved... not.
@user-pu1xq9ef9u
@user-pu1xq9ef9u Жыл бұрын
I think Moscow battle was beginning of the end. But El Alamein and Stalingrad was the final nail in the coffin for Germany.
@bookaufman9643
@bookaufman9643 8 ай бұрын
There's nothing much dumber than horses versus tanks.
@antoniostamndley8272
@antoniostamndley8272 6 ай бұрын
Can't believe, Eastern front , the biggest blunder, Napoleon taught them nothing, winter is the biggest enemy, in all wars , Korea as Well, a bridge to far, also, supply is crucial,
@GlenBragdon
@GlenBragdon Жыл бұрын
The war was over the second Germany attacked . Should have kept treaty with soviets until they kicked British out of Egypt
@paparucoontour
@paparucoontour Жыл бұрын
And then... they all died.
@alanburton1277
@alanburton1277 Жыл бұрын
I love how everyone has an opinion as if they're experts 🤣🤣🤣
@joegrossinger3381
@joegrossinger3381 Жыл бұрын
If you don't have an opinion why are you here posting?
@alanburton1277
@alanburton1277 Жыл бұрын
@@joegrossinger3381 I don't have an opinion on the video as I'm not a expert on the subject but I laugh at all these people who have opinions on what or what not to to as if they're experts so STFU!!
@gorangoran6335
@gorangoran6335 Жыл бұрын
Please, let me know the origin for this video. I would like to study some written stuff about it.
@FactBytes
@FactBytes Жыл бұрын
1. Lost Victories - by Erich von Manstein 2. Panzer Aces - by Franz Kurowski
@jimrich4192
@jimrich4192 Жыл бұрын
And then Adolf happily RETIRED to Argentina with his new wife & tons of GOLD !!! 😂😂😂
@robertmiller2173
@robertmiller2173 Жыл бұрын
Yes the Communist USSR b's had the numbers thanks to the British Empire and the USA. This is why the Battle of the Atlantic was so important; all those convoys going to Commie Land. It paid off for the west as well as on D Day Germany had 196 Divisions facing the Commie Hordes and only 65 Divisions to defend Italy and Western Europe. Thank God for the Liberty ship, the Sherman tank, the Jeep (Which was made by Ford, Willies or AMC and GM. Ford made a Liberator Bomber at the rate of 1 per hour! The Liberty ship was made in 7 days and then fully loaded with Ammo, Spam, Food, Tanks, Engines in 12 days from no ship to a ship loaded and ready to sail to Murmansk! So it was the British Empire and the USA that saved the Commies from the Germans. This is why Putin looks like a rat, but Putin has no heart, he is a ruthless killer of his own young people!
@СергейЗнамин
@СергейЗнамин Жыл бұрын
Учи Мировую Историю,а не амерскую баранья бошка
@robertmiller2173
@robertmiller2173 Жыл бұрын
@@СергейЗнамин write in letters that civilised people can understand
@СергейЗнамин
@СергейЗнамин Жыл бұрын
​@@robertmiller2173учите Русский (цивилизованный народ) и не пишите глупости
@bobns509
@bobns509 Жыл бұрын
Looks that 6th Pz division was visionary: Started they journey on 14th November, 5 (FIVE!) days before Russian's offensive started. You should do a less marketing here, just give us a good story without blowing things to a not so deserved proportions. Can you tell us who insist on sending Pz.div. there and how does he knows it needs to be there ASAP? That would be more interesting part.
@perun814
@perun814 Жыл бұрын
and zhukov said there is no escape
@bazzakeegan2243
@bazzakeegan2243 Жыл бұрын
I like FactBytes...But why December 19th mentioned at least 4 times? NOVEMBER!
@melvinjohnson2074
@melvinjohnson2074 Жыл бұрын
Another example of how dumb the Nazi's were. Instead of the 6th army withdrawing while they could they stayed put. However if after encircled a relief force could punch their way in then and only then could they withdraw. What sense does that make?
@Jerry-vx2hq
@Jerry-vx2hq Жыл бұрын
Hitler was the idiot who blew up Stalingrad instead of just surrounding it for a siege. In Lenningrad they surrounded it but should have still traveled north to block lend lease deliveries from USA.
@conceptalfa
@conceptalfa Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍!!!
@societateacomercialadegraf1796
@societateacomercialadegraf1796 Жыл бұрын
Raus lead 6th panzer division just amazing....i read his war diary...he describe in details this rescue operation
@rockandroll7017
@rockandroll7017 Жыл бұрын
Should regroup
@edwardjj4224
@edwardjj4224 Жыл бұрын
General Herman Hoth commander of 4 Panzer Division make Bolsheviks days very much miserable Even with less troops and armor Force's 🐯
@joegrossinger3381
@joegrossinger3381 Жыл бұрын
So what? The Russians pushed the hitlerites all the way to Berlin. That's what counts.
@palanka842
@palanka842 Жыл бұрын
As in all war videos german forces won every battle against soviets, but at the end, inexplicably, germans were defeated!
@anupkumarmajumdar3997
@anupkumarmajumdar3997 Жыл бұрын
Always Germany under estimated the power of USSR
@ronaldgrove3283
@ronaldgrove3283 Жыл бұрын
Think the Germans should of won on the Eastern Front but through errors fumbled (aka gave up a goalkick). The 6th Army should of been able to breakout also if Hitler hadn't of vetoed the breakout plan.
@theinfralink6598
@theinfralink6598 Жыл бұрын
Watched the whole video. It’s clearly made from the German perspective. The whole time I was thinking Germany won and the Soviets were pretty useless 😝😀. I wonder what the Soviet would think about this.
@ericarnow240
@ericarnow240 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! It reminds me of the US General who said to Vietnamese General Giap, "You never defeated us on the battlefield", and Giap said 'That's true but it's also irrelevant.. The video talks about all the Russia tanks destroyed, but in the end, it was German forces that were decimated. The video would have been more accurate if it described how the Germans lost in more detail. It's said that US military got its lessons from the German perspective. That is why the US keeps losing its wars, while Russia, which is constantly underestimated, usually wins, witness Ukraine.
@theinfralink6598
@theinfralink6598 Жыл бұрын
@@ericarnow240 absolutely correct
@smoothbrush4722
@smoothbrush4722 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. What if the relieve force would have just push forwards and leave abtitank riergards in the city taken for a more time saving, instead of fighting every pocket of tabks near city's. Paulus was a pussy he could also brake out instead of being encircled.
@skywings7676
@skywings7676 Жыл бұрын
Russia Won the War Most Germany Tanks were destroyed. Dont Change the History
@dissyduster
@dissyduster Жыл бұрын
They took way too long,They could have cut them off,,,,They moved fast 24 7 they were all on drugs,including .
@peterkavanagh64
@peterkavanagh64 Жыл бұрын
Fait acompli. The metals object
@erichaugustusvonmellenthin6954
@erichaugustusvonmellenthin6954 Жыл бұрын
Rauss was appointed commander of 6th panzer in April of 42. Not during winter storm.
@fshiravand
@fshiravand Жыл бұрын
And in the end, there was a HEROIC fight "ON THE ROAD TO BERLIN"
@shunmohamedhassan8913
@shunmohamedhassan8913 Жыл бұрын
DHIIG DHIIG
@peterkavanagh64
@peterkavanagh64 Жыл бұрын
The respirves jave npt arribed . Ues its figured the metals but tjatneeds respurces ie it stops if not fed so it is death tp these debisons
@richardkeilig4062
@richardkeilig4062 8 ай бұрын
Horrible war.
@DavidISHERWOOD-iu1xn
@DavidISHERWOOD-iu1xn Жыл бұрын
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