When Reinforcement Based Dog Training Doesn't Work #99

[@DogsThat]

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[@rachell4307]

Hi Susan! Me again! Pure gold!… this could not have come at a better time because we got our puppy a new crate and introduced it last night AND we are dog-sitting for a friend so we are in a new environment. I think your tips will give us a fresh start. (Prior to today, he was only crated at night and didn’t want to be crated during the day. BUT So far so good-We played some of your crate games last night. Today he’s been going in and spending time in the crate without me asking, in a separate room! I’m taking your advice and making sure the door is closed when I do ‘enterichment’ 😊🥰 Thanks again!

[@Apachita]

Susan, I think you are amazing, you are the cream of the crop. Absolutely hands down the best of the reinforcement based trainers and considering all trainers from both sides of the aisle, you are one of the very few who has truly honed their skill. I put you in the top TWO overall. You will surpass many trainers who you mentioned have way more subscribers. I watch many of them and I am a lifetime CM super fan (because calm positive energy and boundaries with consistency work, not because I have ever needed to correct or dominate a dog). As it turns out, so much of what you do is identical to what I have done and it is stuff that no one teaches (like my morning routine, back in the crate, they can't predict the thing before the thing etc). You are the first positive reinforcer I have seen that isn't just luring and/or getting clicks for trying to trash all other trainers by spouting some crazy wolf study paper. No one is training wolves! I have a GOAT on one side of the aisle and now I have a GOAT on the other! You are brilliant. Where is the bow emoji....🙇

[@andreapbalogh4349]

Thank you for sharing your experience on youtube for free. In connection with this episode, currently I am at lost with our morning routine/pause/crate because of the clock change (I am based in Hungary/Europe). I have to teach a top manager online at 7 a.m. and we had a perfect routine until the clock change came at the end of October. I've been trying to "change" my pup's morning routine in the past two weeks (waking up, bathroom in the garden according to current time). Simply, he doesn't feel okay in the crate 7-8 at this current (new) winter time "regime". He can't relax, barks in the crate bw 7-8am. I've tried to leave him in the crate for shorter times (5-10mins) from 7, but even that is difficult for him. As for the rest of the day, the clock change doesn't affect our day, i.e. he is happy to chill out in the crate while I am working. Simply, I do not know how to handle/solve the current morning situation (bw7-8), when I should teach VIP client. The rest of the day is fine. It would be great to see a video about this kind of particular situations.

[@sophiesmith5922]

LOL. Susan, this is so true! My dog is old now, but when I first got her, she was an insane maniac at 4 months. I literally had to put repeated time outs in the crate just to encourage calm behavior and not torment the older dog. This continued DAILY for about 2 weeks, and then she started to feel like being in the room with us calmly was better than a minute of insanity then back to the crate. It was so bad I had to lock her into the crate or she would zoom around instead of eating. NUTS!!!! I also put on the gentle leader with a 6 ft leash and just let her walk around the house like that. The weight was enough to calm her down, and walks got easier because she was used to just being calm with halter and leash on.

[@lindajakub624]

Richo is just like my dog. Finally her biting is.. over? A trainer here in town helped me so much. I thought when that was over all would be well. Not so. ❤

[@wolfdreams2000]

Awesomeness 💜 I usually leave puzzle toys filled with treats in the dogs crates, but I love "Easter biscuits" 😊

[@dessertthingy]

Love all your videos, but particularly like the case study videos.

[@kat200214]

Great video! Thank you, very informative! I really like how you brought up how the dog can learn different behaviors depending on which human they are with. They are extremely smart and observant, they know who allows/doesn't allow what. I also appreciate that you brought up how R+ training has a bad rap in certain circles. I don't blame people for using aversive methods/tools, as most people started there unfortunately, but now science has demonstrated that force free/R+ based methods are likely the least risky, the most fun, and the best option out of other training methods. Aversive methods have been documented to cause more stress, aggression, and have physical health risks for the dog. R+/force free methods TEACH behaviors, and aversive methods only suppress behaviors. I also really appreciate the emphasis you put on routine. Routine is super important for dogs (and for humans too lol!), especially new puppies/dogs. It helps them develop good habits, fit into the household smoothly, and feel more in control/comfortable (they are able to predict what's coming).

[@ladapeterkova125]

Hello Susan, we have our puppy Lagotto Romagnolo for five weeks at the moment. Now I see that we made a mistake when she wakes us up at 5 a.m. We take he to the bathroom then put the mattress on the floor and lay with her there. Sometimes she feel asleep, but usually she is awake for about one hour. So now we are quite tired. Do you think we can learn her the way you do it? It think she would bark, if we put her to the crate after the bathroom as she got used to being with us 🙈 I would be really grateful for any advice. Thank you !!!

[@gretasimmons8987]

This woman is a life saver 👍

[@nancyhooper1742]

Great podcast and another one have to watch and write down for will help with Trex's separation anxiety. Working now on #75 for he drools like a banchee when he goes riding with us so treating him for just going in the truck and out ❤️❤️❤️❤️⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@murwill1]

Love this subject so much

[@kellyhayes]

25 yrs in GSD breed & I now have my very first wtf puppy. She was the perfect sport puppy until at 13wks old she discovered she has a flirt pole attached to her butt (her tail). She now chases her tail when she's bored or excited or anytime she's not actively engaged. Tugging with me or playing with another dog she doesn't even look at her tail but otherwise its game on. She was well socialized & slick floors/loud noises are no problem. No traumatic experience she just started one day & hasn't stopped. In the past i have stopped this behavior in an adult rescue dog (who would have been euthanized) with an ecollar. What positive way do you suggest to extinguish this behavior before it turns into a dangerous obsession?

[@ionicamermaid1141]

Thank you! Hope she and her dog were able to create a better routine and are happier and more relaxed together 🤞

[@LisaDawsonmusic]

The morning routine idea is a game changer! Would this also work after naps? My 5 month BC is good for settling in his crate for naps, but if something wakes him up, he will start barking to get let out. Will it help to do the same ‘pause’ idea? Let him out to pee, put him back in his crate, leave him for 1 minute or so, and then let him out once he is settled? I usually try to get him before he wakes up, but sometimes something like a loud noise will wake him up

[@RaptorsGirl]

Ideally Lisa I would wait for a minute to see if he settles on his own and if he doesn’t I would then say “do you want to go outside” and then I would take him out, saying nothing else to him for the remainder of the time we go outside with him on leash come back and put them back in his crate.

[@wkgraff]

I think the morning routine is something you adapt to your own life situation. For me, I have until about 7:45 AM before I need to leave for work. That's not a huge window of time to get dressed, walk Riko, or exercise. So when I get to this point with him, my morning pause will be a little different.

[@LisaDawsonmusic]

@@RaptorsGirl ok thank you so much, I will try this! 😊

[@ScarletStar]

@@RaptorsGirl Piggy-backing off of this comment because it's similar to my situation. My 8 month old has played all the crate games and will happily run into her crate for naps but as soon as she is done sleeping (sometimes after a long nap sometimes if she gets woken up by a noise) she starts whining and then escalates to barking which means we haven't been able to get past two hours of crate time. I don't ever let her out when she makes noise and waiting for at least a minute of quiet (ideally I try to wait 5 min) but she never seems to learn and improve. I tried taking her out for a pee and putting her back in without any attention but she's usually very unhappy after that and starts making noises again. Tried ignoring after that and sometimes she settles for a little bit and I can take her out and sometimes not at all. It all seems to be very inconsistent based on her mood. How do I teach her to like STAYING in her crate?

[@alidaruiz9258]

My 6 mo old IGP Belgian Malinois is crazy unlike any other ive had. HELP! Very intelligent very willing but devours my hand at food delivery, comes out of his run flying at me in excitement bit a bit dangerous. Help!

[@link11100]

What do you do if the dog starts screaming when you leave?

[@DogsThat]

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[@watchmoivies123]

I gave you a thumbs UP!!! I was not the thumbs down..

[@azogal53]

Must listen again to see how I can fix my dog barking in the night...new behavior waking randomly in her crate next to our bed and softly barking. I have ignored it but she is so persistent. Does quiet when I speak to her. Mystery! 🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪

[@watchmoivies123]

I don't understand? They have been in bed for 8 hours, does not seen fair to let them out at 5 or 6 and then put them back to bed.. I get up at 6 and let my boy out and then back in and I make coffee and check phone , he stays calm for about one hour and then he eats and goes out again , after one hour he goes out to train or play for an hour . Not sure he would like going back to bed , he is a VERY HIGH DRIVE BC Kinda coo - coooooooo... ANYWAY. not sure this method is good for us..

[@RaptorsGirl]

Well for me, it would be a rare night that I am in bed for 8 hours :) also puppies require a TON of sleep so having them sleep for 7 hours then back in for another 2 for a total of 8-10 hours works well for them. Some dogs really prefer long mornings but most dogs will sleep for 2-3 hours a night if we got up and did something with them. Remember also that my puppies are sleeping outside of their crate most often by 8 -10 months of age. If they really wanted to wake up and move around the house they have the right to, however raising them in an environment of “chill” until the day really begins helps them to conserve their energy until we are all ready to get going. As far as “high drive goes,” you could argue that a dog that is “high drive” at work requires even more down time to rest up. I think most people would look at my four Border Collies and call them pretty high drive. The two who are the “highest” Swagger and This! actually are the ones who sleep the longest in the morning. And then there is Tater Salad the Bulldog mix who insists on 12 hours of sleep before you even suggest he goes outside for a pee. All of my Border Collies go outside after 7 hours of sleep…and then all go back to bed (voluntarily) until I’m done my morning routine…workout, meditation, shower etc, etc.

[@watchmoivies123]

@@RaptorsGirl Yup dogs adjust to what they get.. Thats why we love them such! My BC would go all day long and part of the night but I am teaching him CALM time. Lots of mat work and after I know he has had plenty of exercise and mind work I do put him in a dog playpen in my kitchen to rest. He is so good with this because I am not sure he has an off switch.. I am Teaching it. I love your idea but not for us at this time , it would almost be punishment for him .. If I started it at 8 weeks it would be GREAT! Thank You for what you do, I LOVE YOUR TUBES!!!!!

[@watchmoivies123]

@@RaptorsGirl Gosh, I thought you do this for your adults also. Yes puppies need tons of sleep. Sorry , I misunderstood ...