When Supports Ruled The World: A History Of Ardent Censer

[@marcusrocca9479]

when u saw diamond 5 janna/lulu players hitting master cause of ardent, then going back to d5 when it got nerfed...

[@nightslushie]

100% fact

[@mrJohnLevi]

this is true, i abused ardent with ivern and karma, i climbed from silver to mid diamond, then after the nerf i just quit playing ranked

[@steviejrr]

@@mrJohnLevi but surely everyone knew about it so it would be fair if both teams went with it

[@marcusrocca9479]

@@steviejrr but it would be fucking boring, you cant kill anyone who abused ardent so much.

[@thatdodo8263]

@@marcusrocca9479 as a former soraka main i say it was pretty fun watching the enemy team lose hope of ever killing my adc

[@hiimps1hagrid254]

Keep up the good work ! like the content

[@davguev]

Keep up the good work! I like the Ardent.

[@betterluck2821]

Fuk u

[@hannovanbaarle1413]

The devil himself

[@dias147]

You bitch

[@HouseofKhaine]

lol...I had to check if you made this account just to comment. But yes, this video was well done.

[@versutus2699]

MagikarpUsedFly created a video called "Worlds 2017" that is just a 4.5 minute montage of casters saying ardent censer and it was just the group stage LMAO

[@shonkeymoulder6972]

Love the part where they say “Ardent censer” on that vid

[@luckneh5330]

Yeah, that video was used in this video... bruh moment

[@markotagoma7457]

at the start the nidalee gave me flashbacks so basically it was the old summoners rift few years ago i was playing kata mid vs nida i lost so hard i solo lost the game we couldnt come out of the fountain at the end of the game bcs of her thx for the flashbacks very cool

[@slebonafidekappa9422]

you just gave me flash backs where i was playing ziggs against challenger nid

[@taknie7661]

Wasn't it the days when Deathfire Grasp existed? If that's when you got destroyed by Nidalee as Kata then you just sucked, it's not because Nidalee was OP. Tell me how the fuck can you get hit by a spear as old Katarina?

[@GccThemakas]

that gave me flash backs of ap yi pressing Q doing 1k dmg and W to heal 4k health

[@yohansin3430]

@@taknie7661 Yea I mained even back in season 3, kat always hard destroyed nidalee

[@jcdeton72]

I hope you still cry yourself to sleep hahah.... HAHAHAHA

[@pico2851]

Wait.. so the wards you get through the quests as a support.... are Re-wards?

[@Exil22]

LOL

[@akashafofo6939]

haha

[@tobismusicstuff]

xD

[@juliendebroissia]

Congrats. I both hate and love you.

[@StrangeNazemi]

5Head

[@wunwunwunwun1999]

Watching this video and I think to myself maybe there'll be an Ohmwrecker meta...

[@cozmorules6983]

a man of culture aswell

[@wolfdeathnogames5314]

@@cozmorules6983 as a rule of thumb most people don't realise that ohmwrecker is actually really good due to the tower reseting the shot counter on you so the shots do less dmg again so if you a character like mundo you can latterly run anyone and I do mean anyone under tower because if the tower starts to hurt ohmwrecker it and now its back to not hurting anymore XD

[@juliendebroissia]

@@wolfdeathnogames5314 Eff... I still think one of the main reasons Ohmwrecker wasn't good, was because it gave tanky stats (and not even much tbh) If it had been designed to be a damage item, I think it could've actually been broken. (Remember, one of the main reasons akali was so insanely broken when she was reworked, was because her shroud allowed her to dive you without barely any consequences, so if she ever got ahead, you might as well just not play the game.) Now imagine that, but every assassin can do it? Imagine a kha'zix lvl 6 when your twitch jungle is level 3 (you know what happened) and khazix can literally just walk up to you under tower while there is no minions? It would basically be a Jojo meme.

[@cozmorules6983]

@@wolfdeathnogames5314 I can tell you have 200 iq, and a man of culture aswell

[@mellowasiam]

Agreed. Ardent Censer was absolute crap on release. Used to only be a fringe Sona or other multiple shield character item.

[@masterxitra]

God those Nidalee spears give all old league players veitnam flash backs no lie. even today when i still see her when she throws a spear i still flinch.

[@akashafofo6939]

flashbacks*

[@billy6701]

even when i hear the "thwush" noise it still feels unnatural to not hear "an ally has been slain"

[@user-fc1kv7oy1c]

Dude it vietnam

[@nybotheveg]

It might be because I mained her, but I didn't think she was such a big problem. She had 0 Lane presence. She used to be kept in place by the Gragas counter pick until he got reworked.

[@farleydbear]

i remember complaining about nidalee, people would just tell me to dodge her spears. needless to say, i almost never get hit by her shitty modern spear hitbox. its like 1/3 of what it used to be

[@comradekoupetorska4253]

I very clearly remember perma banning Janna

[@Tope92]

I very clearly remember constantly playing Taric support and shitting on every bad janna/lulu player with stun engage.

[@BARDI77]

@@Tope92 I very clearly remember playing ardent taric support and shinting on every good or bad janna/lulu/karma, etc support with stun engage and ardent

[@daviddavid-mi5qw]

I very clearly remember being a beginner that time and playing ashe top

[@Tope92]

@@BARDI77 I don't want to claim that the players I played against were good, since they were in gold/plat level (and since most of them couldn't figure out how to sidestep the stun).

[@votecthulhu9378]

Now that it was mentioned in the video I vividly remember Janna having something like a 90% presence(bans/picks) in my games

[@wickman1235]

When assassin players left the game

[@amine1644]

- assassin players left - bruiser players left - playmaking support players left - ad caster except for lucian midlane players left

[@bdamonstuff]

lol i literally took a year long hiatus because of it.

[@magieenvtuber9783]

I still was an Ekko one trick back then rushing ghost support item and ardent with rabadon and getting first time to masters... Ah i miss supp item and ardent Ekko build

[@AnakinTheWeird]

i miss no assassins...

[@matiasorce5738]

@@bdamonstuff i also did lmao, that's the only season i got to gold and stop playing the game

[@austinhaynes6420]

Rito: "We don't want to mess up worlds like we did last year" Proceeds to leave shit broken and therefore messing up worlds.

[@superbigtime]

"We don't want to mess up worlds" _CONVENIENTLY BUFFS LEE SIN AND GIVES HIM A SKIN A WEEK AND A HALF BEFORE WORLDS_

[@shiennohajime1495]

You explain the most controversial parts of the past metas in such a calm way with a nice pace and a bit of criticism here and there. Aftef all of these clickbait youtubers, it's great to have a chill and informative person behind these useful videos. Thank you, Exil, for running through LoL's contrived history.

[@F14thunderhawk]

I think its more controversial that it took 3 years for people to do the math on the original S4 support items and realize that they were the BiS ADC starting items, expecially relic shield which upgraded into something like the 3rd overal tank item in the game, while paying for itself and funneling free gold into your co-laner.

[@nimfadoro1169]

This has to be my favorite KZbin series to date. Awesome work! Keep it up!

[@Exil22]

Im glad to hear that!!

[@marlow869]

@@Exil22 yeah your History videos are very good and i didnt played season 1 and 2, so im learning new informations

[@SaiyanGamer95]

People ask me what my favorite joke is. My response: Riot's balancing team.

[@paulvanree9795]

Good one. Though why is it your favorite lol.

[@ampenah]

i remember when i was still really new, had only been playing a handful of games a month. picked up soraka, really only bought the recommended items, didn't even know what ardent was. got into a lobby and my adc made a comment in pregame: 'raka is so op, you can build whatever you want just get ardent first item and we'll win'. sure enough, bought it, won lane > won game. Bought it every game after that, and my winrate absolutely skyrocketed. that was when i really started getting into league, started enjoying it, and was actually useful at my cute little level 14 'what the heck is going on' stage. ardent is still one of my favorite items to take on janna and soraka, though it's not an absolute requirement anymore. from the perspective of someone who *wasnt* an adc, i can absolutely understand why it was hated so much, but boy am i glad the ardent meta happened, or i wouldn't have made any of the friends i have over the last few years without it to really pull me into the game.

[@LeaksHater]

Yeah, when ardent meta came, i was pretty new too and didnt understand anything. I picked up soraka because i really liked healing and then ardent because it looked cool. And had fun with it, but then the meta of it came appearently. I didnt rlly notice it tho, prob cuz i still had no idea what was happening lol.

[@brentonfletcher426]

@@LeaksHater Wow takodachis really popping up everywhere!

[@duchi882]

*There is only one Support that rules them all* Skaarl

[@Blackkray777]

*COUGH COUGH willump*

[@zuccthecucc9260]

@@Blackkray777 *Stronger COUGH* garen

[@sonemesis7083]

Ahem... *Malzahar voidlings*

[@nilsfan579]

Duchi AHEM JENSEN WHEN HE ‘CLAPPED FAKER’

[@corsicasanova]

@@Blackkray777 I remember the nunu support maxing bloodboil at worlds

[@zandromex8985]

I'm really liking this iconic items series, keep up the good work!

[@Exil22]

Glad to hear it thank you

[@markotagoma7457]

15:45 I KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE IN THE VID I WAITED FOR IT TO HAPPEN Thx

[@francesco8000]

It's actually really fun to watch the history of support items because their build is the one that changed the most. Yeah, top, mid, tank, adc...nothing can compare to support. Back in time they just build gold generation and unlimited wards (when there was no limit). Then we reach the time of the video with sightstone+trinket upgrade+other op support item if you have gold. We had the ardent censer age. Now they are in line with jungler, they have ONE core item (which give gold generation+wards) to build and they are free to build what they want after.

[@versutus2699]

Shoutouts to MSF. That series was truly iconic and Ignar is a fucking legend for going blitz leona in the ardent meta

[@azh698]

Too bad Cipher played them like a damn fiddle...

[@obsdmitd6807]

I just loved MSF in the 2017 Worlds. That one hook where he hooked faker over the wall was epic and I was so sad when they lost against SKT because they did that one elder.

[@mimitzy9211]

Thanks to ignar I got scared to leona I still ban her every time I can I hate her

[@kodad.s610]

5:28 HOWD YOU FIND THIS ANCIENT CLIP OF ME AND MY FRIEND DYING TO REDEMPTION LOL

[@omajan4080]

msf vs skt is one of my favorite series of all time close with g2 vs rng at worlds 2018

[@magieenvtuber9783]

And G2 vs SKT on MSI... It was a Pyke meta back then xd

[@numbawan9527]

G2 vs rng was a joke. Rng is trash

[@dyleni]

Old Nidalee > Zoe

[@jayceeizhere]

Pre-nerf Zoe > old Nidalee

[@toretronio9030]

Simple>√complicated²

[@jayceeizhere]

Zoe is like old nidalee but on steroids. She has cc for days, long range poke with low cd, mobility with her ulti, empowered aa with passive, extra summoner spell/items with her 2nd skill.. End of discussion.

[@Zerum69]

Zoe pre nerf could do the "Nidalee" to tanks and squishys, it didn't matter the target, it only mattered your ability to do 1 simple combo over and over again having to learn 1 combo is easier than having to learn how to evaluate the situation live and aim in between tanks

[@VideoGameManiac8]

@@Zerum69 true, wish they would revert her

[@Blackkray777]

Please make a top 10 op meta or a top 10 patches in league of legends ... These videos are so entertaining

[@Exil22]

Good idea thank you im glad

[@koobeq1207]

Isn’t there that Tier List video?

[@corsicasanova]

@@Exil22 if you can remind us of malady and heart of gold I wouldn't complain

[@thosebloodybadgers8499]

I used to play support a lot in my earlier League days, when the Ardent meta came I was so happy that my role was finally recognized as a threat. Among the broken bruisers, assassins and other meta's to follow and predate, it was the the most unexpected and fun bombshell I've experienced.

[@robertdicke7249]

7:04, the total value of stats in a final item being significantly higher then the items cost is completely normal. Ardent maybe a bit higher in relative efficiency then others but consider the role it went to and that the ally buffs were both temporary and were only significant on particular allies with attack speed builds.

[@jomybaby22-gaming]

better CSing and positioning ADC wins better babysitting support wins as a late-game player, this was my favorite meta.. i went from bronze iv in january to gold ii during worlds, spamming twitch, tristana and sivir.. and banning vayne 100% of the time also, if Kaisa was released during this time, she may be 100% pick or ban.

[@ed1659]

Ah good ol days on botlane when you trade, back off, heal to full hp after just 1 wave thanks to double relic and usually with heal from supp. Never trade again, just farm and farm. 10/10 would farm again.

[@LeaksHater]

Top lane experience

[@tymekhajduk9223]

Vamp scepter experience

[@shonkeymoulder6972]

Strongest support of them all... Sona’s bra

[@The73MPL4R]

Imagine being a support main during this time and seeing your role go from human ward to most important role in the game

[@1993Delicious]

I had some fun with Janna, rushing ardent and then redemption. For runes (iirc) I had something that gave heals when you attack impaired targets. So everything Janna did proqued Ardent.

[@WTFbjatch]

Just after watching 2mins of this video all i got to say is: I fckin love your videoes dude, you sound (and are) so professional about a single item or a champ (and of course the whole game). You da best

[@Jackdiddly1]

ADC still say "I was so weak during this time"

[@jakecrowns4609]

Adc's were cruisers in that meta. You would build stericks and be unlikable, but damage was much lower than it would be in a standard build, and the while landing phase felt like a wet noodle farm simulator. Honestly it was the second worst meta to play adc's imo, but they were strong.

[@r.m.renfield4541]

You have to have a PhD in bitching and reddit posting to be an ADC.

[@Pyrrha_Nikos]

As as support main, I can confirm that adcs were not strong. No adc should have been nerfed at all during that time. It was the supports that were busted. No matter how stupid your adc was, if you were decent at Janna, got Censer and maybe half a Redemption and you 1v9ed that game. Your adc can afk during a teamfight with autoattacks on, and you could keep him alive until he got a pentakill. I used to duoqueue with a friend who was a Kat main and we played Rakan-Kat (gunblade into ad items, not even ap Kat) in bot lane and we had an 80% wr on that because I could engage to give Kat a way in, shield her with my e giving her Censer and she could not die. It was the most stupid meta I've ever played (and of course my favorite, since I got to enjoy the game a lot more than nowadays), enchanters were busted, not adcs

[@korneliuszpronczuk4063]

They were weak, just supports were strong and were covering adc weakness.

[@gyrozeppeli00]

So, adc had no weaknesses right? So does that mean they were strong? Because supports litterally says, fuck it, you'll never reach the truth. And then they remove their adc's death, and their adc's mistake as well.

[@bloodedfruit133]

I remember back in season 5, when I just started out and played Sona, I always built ardent because I saw attackspeed the most valuable. I never tried redemption when it got released and stuck to my ardent, then the ardent meta happened. I felt guilty following others with the the ardent.

[@ENDERSTYLE74]

18:02 ooooh this skin x3 she looks damn good

[@45andre99]

Oh I remember this meta, and yes, as a support main I actually liked it, that season was when me and my duo climbed the highest, we wold spam Janna-twitch botlane and the games pretty much were a win every time.

[@gilber78]

11:20 - As a huge C9 fan back in Season 5, the Balls Pentakill is still my favorite esports moment because it led to the huge upset against Fnatic. Too bad Fnatic crushed them later in the week though.

[@definitelynotspoon]

Oh remembering Ardent *Cancer* in Season 7 still gives me shivers. Ooohhh those Janna, Lulu, Soraka and Sona supports oof

[@moochoir2343]

As a "tank" support main, l can definitely say that ardent meta was one of the most horrible I experienced. I just could not play my favorite champions such as Alistar, Braum or Tahm, because these 4 supports that were Janna Lulu Sona and Soraka became monsters at the moment they bought this single item... Not gonna complain it was nerfed ! x) By the way, another great video, keep up the good work !

[@rickvangils100]

Can't say the current meta is much better. Enchanter supports are crap now. It's all about hard CC and tankiness. Leona, Nautilus, Blitzcrank and Pyke are pretty much the only viable supports nowadays. Except for Senna. She's the only non-CC support on the list because she's new and thus OP.

[@IslamAbuauf]

You're a great story teller. Bright future for this channel

[@def_notdarius]

Both Janna & censor were overtuned for almost 2 seasons but players couldn't believe a support carries that hard, so ss7 worlds they learned it the hard way

[@Jojo.F87]

The release of Ardent Censer was exactly why I started playing Nami - it went very well with her kit overall. I got so much shit early on for building it, so when it became OP as hell, it was admittedly very satisfying to curb stomp people with the item I used to be mocked for building because it was considered a "waste of gold." Such a satisfying yet frustrating meta.

[@Sob889]

man i always look forward to your uploads good job!

[@SuperCarldk]

You are my favorite league youtuber by far, you put so much effort into these

[@Noobie2k7]

No matter the season, no matter the meta, league of legends will always just be better jungle wins.

[@anubis9151]

not really. with all the seriousness jungle during a lot of the time is incredably underpowered, because to be remotly useful as a jungle you need at least one winning lane and that means that it's fully reliant on OTHER players wich is quite an unfair way to make people play the game if you ask me

[@Noobie2k7]

@@anubis9151 The point is though your 1 winning lane will turn into a winning game if you have a good jungler to help them snowball. Plus a good jungle will turn a neutral lane into a winning lane.

[@anubis9151]

@@Noobie2k7 not really, a laner can continue to fuck up even after the jungler won the lane for him, that's super common

[@ClickHere4Naruto]

@@anubis9151 What Elo are you

[@TheEmolano]

Jungler is the general and support is the capitain of the team. Better jungler wins and better support can save you from a bad jungler sometimes(and turn a mediocre jungler into a good one). If the support and the jungler are bad don't matter how fed the other 3 are.

[@angelandone698]

Gr8 video ! As a top laner, that was the most frstrating time to play. I was allways winning my lane but i got used to : "my bot lost, so i'll lose the game". But I'm glad that the meta changed. In my opinion the actual meta is the most fun meta. Brusiers top, playing fun matchups, and playmakers supports. It doesn't feel like if you're not an adc main you can't win anymore. Next video go for the tank akali and tank ekko and tank anything else !

[@nophiontrollbringer661]

Im happy to see that now, after Enchanters were punched into the ground and Yuumi overtook all they do, Riot implemented shieldbusters to balance out whats already balanced. Its literally only Yuumi, Pyke und Lux down here in low elo.

[@Pedgo1986]

And thresh with blizz. Hooking is too much prevalent and powerfull, it can stop engage dead in tracks, zoning and get hooked is death sentence also its not easy get them out of lane. Whole supporting devolved from keep alive to CC fiesta and we get yuumi champion easy to use who can ignore these cc bots.

[@low1n]

Dude i love how frequent you are with uploading this series. Love it

[@sebastianfernandez2652]

"When nidalee ruled the worlds" u could do a video about it, she had like 90% of ban

[@feelsgioman]

I’m so glad you’re making these and at a quick pace too. I was expecting episode two to take a couple of months before releasing lmao. Keep it up

[@SandjyLima]

Make a super documentary depicting all the seasons and their "personalities"

[@momobunny]

i found your channel today and now i'm obsessed watching all of these incredible mini documentaries on my favourite videogame

[@alandrio6836]

i am loving this series keep it up

[@Exil22]

Glad you enjoy it

[@Cloudiee]

Turning on this video from my recommended I thought I won't watch all of it, because it lasts almost 20 minutes. Now I'm after all episode and I'm shocked how good was it too watch, good job buddy, as a support main I love this video

[@joshmiller7538]

“But for now, it’s just going to be a jungle diff”.... perfectly said

[@EinManU]

(why are ppl only talking about lulu and janna? - back then, nami had the same winrates as lulu .-. - janna sat at 58-60% and lulu/nami both at 55-59% - after them came soraka and sona, but they were only at ~51-52%) as a nami-onetrick, i feel offended.

[@lovemusicbandchorus]

Not to mention that Nami often completely outclassed other censor supports in lane by using her W effectively. The ability to poke and heal in one oftentimes drained the opponent's mana.

[@OklahomaHotdog]

They hated how Nida was one shotting people from afar but they still made Zoe.

[@SmallPotato2313]

Nidalle had much bigger hitbox before on her spear

[@reeetm2914]

I remember watching this game live. It was the same year I started playing league and I was completely shocked by the idea of playing champs that weren’t meta

[@barte196]

jungle diff: Enemy team locks in Kaisa.

[@NoirePkmn]

Awesome watch. 2 important things to mention was that it wasn't just Leona. It was Fervor of Battle Leona. Also that they would funnel gold to supports via solo gold from tower kills which I found funny.

[@jannislanger8260]

After that came the lethality meta, where every game was stacked with ad assassins oneshotting everybody and in the bot lane only lethality mf and varus where viable and really unfun to play against. Just saying so all those Rengar and zed players stop complaining about how bad the ardent meta was for them. At the end riot decides how they wanna fuck up their game

[@ratio1037]

I mean at least that didnt go on for months upon months

[@medleyshift1325]

@@ratio1037 It just felt like it because worlds takes so long. If you remember we weren't playing on the same patch the pros were at worlds.

[@andresvillanueva5131]

I have to admit liking the ardent meta, i'm not a supp main, but the constant bully on supps ended, was fun to watch IWD freaking out about a Janna

[@3ace9]

Immagine: ardent censer yuumi

[@nastyeggplant]

Yuumi would've been the better choice that meta and a 100% pick/ban rate if she can go through first phase ban

[@a_neven_sp]

Man, your videos are beyond op. These detailed videos are just amazing and can't wait what will be the next one in the list. All your contents are sticking me in front of the screen. Keep up the good work!

[@Max-ej4oh]

I remember this meta, but not as painfully I remember the black cleaver meta. That was something really unholy.

[@kyuraki]

But also really fun because literally everyone could build it and it was somewhat viable

[@an0nsaiko890]

Hearing the crowd's reaction to Ignar's Leona is still making me shiver.

[@arber7240]

Ahhh ardent censor meta was a great time for me. I remember playing sona and just pressing w to go from gold to plat real quick. Free lp will always mean a good time to me even if the game is extremely imbalanced.

[@alexsere3061]

3:00 I remember playing support in seasons 7-8. The things I hated the most is how much I had to wait to get cool items. I played blitzcrack, and frozen gauntlet was really good on him for the manga and cdr. Unfortunately I had to first do a supp item, sightstone, upgrade sightstone, upgrade supp item again, boots and maybe upgrade boots before buying an item. Looking back I would agree I was delaying my powerspike but as a supp I wanted to be as helpful as useful, so I bought the items even if it's no the best route. I am so happy with this change.

[@francesco8000]

I honestly believe that after all these problems season 8\9 are the best in lol history. Season 9 is currently the most balanced with many different strategies being played but no "do it or lose". Season 8 was terrible for pure adc players (that cried like babies, especially the streamers) but i love the fact that we saw mages and bruisers being played botlane.

[@ChamplooMusashi]

its really not balanced. watch a competitive game its the same champs getting picked over and over again, same thing with high elo. just because a few cheese strategies have shown doesn't make it strategically diverse especially considering they were cancerous and typically required coordinated play (ie not solo q / 99.999% of games) source: played since s1, the theme of s9 is just no more tanks

[@georgear_rd7494]

@@ChamplooMusashi Yeah, this season isnt a "abuse this one strategy to win more" but more of a "abuse this pick until it gets gutted next patch" tbh. Competitive play has had some negative impact over solo queue, where unhealthy champions in pro were nerfed, making them unplayable in solo q and ruining the fun of plenty of fanbases. Just look at Akali, she wont die at peace. Kalista is still a dead adc with Kog Maw. And after changing Tamh and Aatrox, they were both nerfed af. Aatrox didnt suffer much, but Tamh is now just a dead toplaner.

[@jesuscepticeye6032]

Oh, good old ardent canser. It reminds me how I trolled playing J4 support with it, and aery to proc ardent from his E. Good times.

[@nightangelx1513]

The problem with passive supports is they're not fun. Either they ARE able to heal/shield through the enemy damage, in which case it's no fun for the enemy. Or they AREN'T in which case it's no fun for the player.

[@magieenvtuber9783]

Well there is one pretty hard and fun to play ardent and that is Rakan, but he is only one

[@lovemusicbandchorus]

If you're playing them passively, you're playing them wrong.

[@Hadhoudtn]

I remember those days. As a jungler and support player I really enjoyed playing in season 7 (ardent meta). Support junglers like Ivern and Nunu were OP and tank junglers were meta since you had to play tank to defend your botlane. I admit it, it wasn't fun to watch : we had no early game agression, no early kills, just farm and take ardent ASAP. The team with the better ADC used to win. However, I enjoyed the meta because it was all around teamplay and macro. All the team had to take "meta" picks to protect the ADC and play around their hypercarry. That's why I hated season 8 that had damage everywhere and everyone could carry a game (selfish playstyle and no macro). Season 9 is decent since it's inbetween season 7 and season 8 playstyles :)

[@hiro_6426]

i really miss when the support ruled the world :(

[@mimitzy9211]

Yeah I play casters supports and I had a blast during that time this hook meta gives me a headache

[@frostleaf7833]

Support main here,i hated the ardent meta,even tho is called for support,it was just the wet dream of Adc players: To have 0 counterplay Winning always no matter the effort of enemy top/mid/jungler To be fucking immortal. And thats why i hate adc player more then every other type of player in this game,i goddamn prefer Yasuo toxic players,at least its funny to hear them breakdown and insult at random

[@OddMobileWatcher]

That casual misogyny near the end.

[@camelcasecurry9377]

ikr, had to replay it to make sure

[@scoot4390]

@@camelcasecurry9377 What?

[@hago66]

6:30 I listen to the music and wonder where the hell have I heard this before. Then it dawns on me that it's in the Skyrim's celtic music mod. Nice.

[@bakufudifu8361]

As a support main I must say I hated the ardent meta was my most hated meta. So glad it's not what it used to be

[@frostleaf7833]

Im a support main too,i hated so much that meta that now i hate every single adc player

[@ocelotwa2709]

as a support main i really loved this meta and i really miss it

[@frostleaf7833]

@@ocelotwa2709 so u enjoyed spamclicking healing abilities and winning after 40 minutes of absolute Nothing

[@ocelotwa2709]

@@frostleaf7833 yes i was playing duo with my brother and we did literally 2v8 it was very enjoyable. ofc games was long but i think its better than ff15 every game

[@N12015]

@@ocelotwa2709 I honestly don't miss that meta, because it lasted for like 1.5 (7.2 - 8.12) years but i feel they overtuned enchanters and defensive play in general, specially on Pre S-10, the time i quit the game due to basically making unviable the strategy of being patient.

[@allan25david]

I love these league history videos!

[@alanbitsch731]

0:42 ez just walks into the spear what

[@redpanda9060]

As an ADC, going from Season 6 tank Ekko/Poppy shit to Ardent meta was the biggest pick-me-up in history. But yeah, they got back at us with adc in 2018 omegalul.

[@michaelk9080]

"lost a lot of their girl playerbase" OMEGALUL

[@Nisos037]

had the same reaction x)

[@parkerchurch4053]

When they cant just press E, R, and not have anything else to do but check social media

[@calu6435]

you really think this way? soooo sad. "it's just a joke" Well, when you do it all they time stops being funny for one of the parts.

[@Nisos037]

@@calu6435 its sure isnt a joke anymore when its repeated to death but what can you do? its not like if the targets was in strong majority

[@xxexexex]

most of the ardent supports were GUYS because it was OP. its not like a bunch of girls started to play just because the ardent was strong, and lets not forget everyone at worlds was a guy. the idea that girls were the ones playing it is dumb lol

[@themcalmic148]

This is an amazing series. I'd compare this series to summoning salts videos. Very well made and super entertaining.

[@ilyashajjami8800]

I am still making nightmares about 5.00 Attack Speed Kog'maw +Ardent . The good old days .

[@Shaboops]

Absolutely in love with this series. I hope you get around to the ekko jungle era tank meta items like the spirit visage + sunfire auto win games.

[@Rille922]

Season 5 world was amazing to watch, the 1v1 top were hype and it was fun overall

[@bigvidboi4909]

i so miss that one yi that farmed while enemy took the inhib turret because "im bout to get devourer"

[@YukiMoonlight]

I used to main Janna for many years. That meta was obviously one of my favorit ever even though I didn't really play much anymore at that time.

[@LolFlame]

Remember when everything was balanced in League? Neither do I (Feral Flare was balanced)

[@m00se472]

Love the videos! Always fun remembering all the past op champions/metas

[@kahmorastimemanagement6096]

Remember that time Janna could get an assist or a kill if she shields the turret shooting you?

[@luk4s195]

she still does tho?

[@kahmorastimemanagement6096]

@@luk4s195 u can still get an assist i think. This new Janna meta got me focused on being a lane bully that I forget to shield.

[@Darkness001LP]

Man this series is very cool! keep up the good work

[@rainbow_blacklight]

"It's possible that riot lost a lot of their girl player base, and has been decreased ever since ardent was nerfed." wtf? this literally reads like a troll comment making fun of sexist gamer guys but its just.. in the video. feels totally out of place... not sure where you were going with that, im real confused ngl. was enjoying this video up to that point.

[@a.9913]

I literally thought the same thing and scrolled down to see if anyone said anything about it.

[@rainbow_blacklight]

- A. i thought it was strange nothing i could find had been said before about that :/

[@holomatic1549]

Minute left on the vid, you really didn't miss anything by turning up.

[@patrickcarmichael204]

i thought it was funny

[@Kimthepowerfuljong-un]

So funny.

[@BlackWavesOfEternity]

I wouldn't say a lot of the girl fanbase of league left as a support role. Rather, it's the changing of the game itself that drives people to different roles or different modes altogether. When I started League over 7 years ago, I picked mostly junglers and bruisers as that was the popular meta back then. I was then forced to play support and while it has it's certain fun aspects, it's not for me at least. Now adays however, I spend less time on the rift and instead play in the Freljord map. This is better to me at least because it challenges the notion that a super op comp or item build wins the game 100%. It sharpens your mechanical skills and threatens you to act when you don't have a chance. In terms of rift however, I have shifted towards more of the carry routes and many of my friends who were previous support mains have changed to tank meta or carries as well.

[@ninjacookie3]

"this probably lost riot a lot of their girl player base" I don't wanna sound like a dick but this really isn't the case, he clearly doesn't talk to women who play league

[@swine13]

"Do you remember this character" I still feel like it was yesterday that this was all one of my friends played 😅

[@MinecraftManL]

Nobody; Exil: _______ was one of the most broken _________ in Leauge of Legends history

[@ratio1037]

they do fuck up a lot

[@tkgilbert4805]

I joined league when all this happened and I vaguely remember just not playing til season 8

[@xyznova7038]

IIRC wasn't early season 7 a time when adcs were useless? "ADC 2017" memes

[@jonathanpedrini9068]

Yea that was when lethality was still pretty new and ADCs would just get oneshot upon leaving the fountain.

[@jetpackerpaul28]

Jonathan Pedrini Oh yeah, right after the assassin rework👌 Loved that time

[@jjsupah]

They lost female players when ardent got nerfed? can you link to source for that?

[@CaulkMongler]

I always kinda liked Ardent from the get go because of the little perks, especially on Janna. Makes ya move faster than you already are, shield increased Atk speed AFTER the shield buffed atk, and just a nice little perk to her AOE heal

[@EpicDudeYT]

* *laughs in sona* *

[@keyman3131]

I like the league history videos that I got to live through. Started playing in 2017 so a lot of the older traumas we hear about (ap Yi), I completely missed

[@fynntasticmovienight]

That loss of girl player base joke was a little off, doesn't sit super well with me, but w/e i guess

[@a.9913]

Same, kinda fucked up.

[@Cole444Train]

I'm really unhappy I had to scroll this far down to see someone complain about it. A few comments praising how funny it was. Really unfortunate.