When Teen Killers Realize They've Been Caught

In today's true crime documentary, we're covering the case of Seath Jackson.
Note for KZbin's review team, here is the context of the video: this is an educational documentary and authoritative news piece based on actual police documents and case files. Our team of psychology professionals analyze the interrogation footage from an educational perspective with a focus on psychology, red flags, and prevention. Our goal is to educate the public, inform our audience, and raise awareness.

[@StahliCell]

Amber saying that if she spends 5 years in prison she'll be 20 by the time she gets out only to get a life sentence is maybe the best thing that happened in this case.

[@rybur98]

also when she asked the detective “how many years?” after hearing they’d all be booked for first degree, premeditated. and the detective said “oh honey”

[@Tony_Cardoza]

@@rybur98 lol. I loved that detective the most. Also the one interrogating "Roach" was good too.

[@LightningFox7]

@@MarkChlenov Why? They all knew what they were doing. They killed this boy maliciously. Cover it up.

[@LightningFox7]

@@MarkChlenov It seems right. They murdered someone in cold blood.

[@Mehtevas713]

@@rybur98 yeah stroup was the best. Big lady balls

[@averyprather2966]

I love the brutal honesty with the female detective. She told them straight and shut down their whining. Awful crime

[@cnelson1614]

You know it, I likes that too

[@jamesholsapple2108]

@@lukearts2954 ³

[@KingKazoopz]

For real that is the hottest female detective what a fucking boss bitch

[@miola2083]

Like a mom.

[@Emma88178]

Which one? There were a couple of them who didn't take crap from anyone.

[@Leowife1231]

All of them crying for themselves is just sickening. Not one tear for the kid they killed or his family. Disgusting!

[@GradKat]

Oh come on! They’re very young and very scared. They did a terrible thing, but their fear while in police custody is understandable, not “disgusting”.

[@Anton-qc1fk]

@@GradKat It is not understandable. Their tears are misplaced, end of story.

[@mikal94]

@@GradKat Smh

[@seaworld6955]

@@GradKat How can you troll by defending plain murder and torture. Wonder if you would say the same if it was your kid.

[@deleteriousss]

@@GradKat no.. it is disgusting. a normal reaction would be more in line with thoughts such as "what have i done" "please come back" "i didn't mean it" "i want him to come back" "im so sorry" etc. not "this is our life now" or "people are gonna hate us for this". those thoughts are more likely to occur a while after the crime, whilst the individual has had time to think, and isolate themselves more so from the incident. anyone to say stuff like this, this soon, is disgusting. they may still be kids, but they are mentally old enough to recognise what they've done, and what a selfish reaction to it looks like. normal people would feel awful if they thought/said such things. because yes i believe kids can say that stuff because you've got a lot of emotion you're dealing with if you've committed this, but as soon as you've said it, it would be instant regret and disgust with yourself if you had any remorse.

[@konstantinospetrakis2418]

So a 15 year old kid , gets jumped ( which he predicted would happen ) , stands his ground , fights off multiple older & bigger attackers. Gets mauled, shot and STILL manages to get up and try to escape.Such a damn shame. Rest easy kiddo.

[@Sm1z83]

And remember, he still won a fight with someone 3 years older than him, who should’ve been much stronger than him. What a kid, shouldn’t have died.

[@InChristWeTrust999]

Yeah bro was different like that. RIP

[@jaythescientist333]

from what I’ve heard (I am no expert) there is no mercy when you get sentenced to death in FL. Both FL and TX i heard you get sentenced straight to Hell after execution.

[@InfernalBitch666]

​@@jaythescientist333😂

[@jackmercer1]

@@jaythescientist333 yeah satan has contracts with TX and FL. it's a real efficient pipeline

[@theprofessional155]

These are some of the most cold blooded kids I have ever seen. Not once did I see any amount of remorse. They are just crying for themselves that they got caught.

[@dominicksherzai8560]

Lol howd you end up here.

[@No_Sleepee]

Honestly? That's typical of kids. They can be some of the most unfeeling self-centered bastards of people, it all depends on how good the parent is to get their child to snap out of that during their upbringing and to care about someone other than him/herself.

[@No_Sleepee]

@@HamarJones-zz2ow It isn't typical, that's right. What I'm saying is that this is typical of kids *who don't grow up learning the important morals* i.e. their upbringing and parents

[@gucci_rice_field5321]

Unrelated but I love you pro 🙏

[@BlazingnitroYT]

what is the professional doin here

[@victoriadoell7742]

“so you let a person die? Because that’s the honorable thing to do?” and the silence after took me out. i love all three detectives, they’re amazing and hilarious

[@laurenbossert4552]

Right! They were great… and that comment she made about THAT being the honorable thing to do- that was from her heart!

[@Sanas_Shy_Language]

And the walkout right after... I love her.

[@aemxo]

Time stamp?

[@victoriadoell7742]

@@aemxo 56:47

[@aemxo]

@@victoriadoell7742 thanks

[@samwillow2556]

"You know how many people are gonna hate us for this?" is crazy, the zero regret for what they did and lack of care for anyone but themselves is disgusting.

[@watergirl929]

Oh yeah! And Charlie the one who said that GOT OUT! And god do I hope everyone who meets her makes her feel like abomination she is and what she was afraid of (her reputation) happens to her and she lives the rest of her life despised by everyone alone and miserable forever

[@markwildt5728]

This is kind of a dumb take. Of course they're are upset, they literally just found out their lives are over. Who are you to say there was zero regret? They've had time to process what happened. They haven't had time to process that their lives are over yet... This is just a dumb npc take.

[@markwildt5728]

​@@watergirl929 may God have mercy on your dark and sick soul.

[@samwillow2556]

@@markwildt5728 NPC take? They killed someone, they knew what they were doing you are a moron to think they deserve any sort of freedom after what they did. Their lives deserve to be ruined after ruining someone else's.

[@samwillow2556]

@@markwildt5728 As for the zero regret part, I cannot say if they did or didn't have regret but to me it seems they only care for themselves and didn't even take into consideration that they just ruined the lives on many others. They only care that THEIR lives are ruined.

[@datube5913]

15 year olds with tattoos, 18 year old married, kids playing with guns and killing other kids. Let’s hold some parents accountable too

[@cjvaye99]

its Florida what do you expect

[@MindTwistEsp]

USA! USA!

[@Arielh100]

It keeps getting worse. Just a couple of days ago two kids 12 and 14 were shot at some apartments a block away from my house by other kids they knew….

[@niwa_s]

There's a massive difference between being trashy and murdering people.

[@tammyblankenship8742]

@@cjvaye99 So you think this only happens in Florida? You must be new to the channel and new to true crime in general. F-ked up stuff has been done by evil kids all over the country.

[@bakchormeeman7864]

The fact that at 15 amber still thought that a first degree murder was a 5 year sentence just shows the kind of education they’ve had .. that’s embarrassing

[@gioiaislami1855]

it's more sickening the fact that she thought of doing it because 5 years of sentence were nothing for her.

[@skaio.5279]

Why are you blaming the education system for everything, that's even more embarassing. Maybe her knowlege is HER responsibility.

[@bestrafung2754]

Here in the UK, they barely get 5 years! I heard of a guy here years ago who killed a little boy with his car and only got like 6 months.

[@bigchungus4127]

@@ladyweasellou3367 No.

[@RBLXDignitysHQ]

@@bestrafung2754 thats not first degree murder bro thats manslaughter completely different charge

[@HistoriisMysteria]

"I wish I'd never met this kid." Blaming the person you murdered for getting you in trouble; unbelievable.

[@supayambaek]

Tbf, Seth did slept with his gf.

[@elliotwright8996]

D

[@anndaniels3545]

All of them were jealous of Seath, he was good looking, girls flocked to him, Seath had broken up with Amber and she didn't want him, but she didn't want anyone else having him, either. He had her # and was done with her and the little girl had never been told no before, she herself said she ALWAYS got her way. Combined with "Mike"and the redheaded step child they both got their asses kicked by a 15 year old, and their gf's had been w Seath..boys and girls both despised Seath because he was better than them. God Bless Seath's Dad and Mom...and Seath 🙏 RIP 🌹

[@jacaboscrafts7729]

@@elliotwright8996 D

[@andersnrregren9087]

If you beat up women you may go missing or get killed

[@salazar556]

"Do you know how many people are gonna hate us?" Well did you ever think how many people you'd hurt by murdering this person?

[@ctakitimu]

Yeah it's the way the adult world works. There are consequences for your actions. Zero sympathy for these kids. I wonder what their parents were like?

[@sea_triscuit7980]

The last thing on their mind is how many people they hurt by killing Seth. They're more worried about how it makes them look. Reputation is everything to these kids, problem is their reputations are based all online.

[@tomsevcik1792]

Don’t worry! They will receive a good treatment in jail / prison :) haha.

[@tomsevcik1792]

Those scumbags don’t deserve anything at this point

[@LauraLeeX777]

Bet they never imagined their interrogation would end up on KZbin and now there's an entire section of the Internet who hates them. 🤣

[@mrtree1368]

Roach was definitely your typical mid 2000s "cool" kid who took on the street life style to counter being average. You know damn well his myspace said he aint no snitch

[@wedemgoyz7678]

🤣

[@michaelgraham9774]

I know people who are still acting like that. Some people need to grow tf up

[@becky7556]

He's a fruit cake

[@TheSklar]

YES

[@trish3603]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@shutup4211]

Props to the mother for calling the authorities when her own kid confessed. I have seen many parents try to hide their own kid's misdemeanours.

[@Nawta420]

Still a decent chance that a parent who would cover up their child's petty crime wouldn't cover up violent crime, especially murder

[@darthmatt4120]

True. The step dad did cover it up

[@casaraku1]

sad that the mother/parents were not able to instill love and respect for others....

[@bouji_]

@@darthmatt4120 The step dad is an idiot though, and I am using the word "idiot" literally here. He was just used by his ex's kids for buying them booze and driving them around where they needed to go. The fact that his stepchildren dragged him into this says a lot more about them than it does him.

[@bbmtge]

Hope you don't have kids. The mom should have contacted an attorney for advice and for the kid to be turned in.

[@madisonlewe1057]

I love how ruthless the interrogators are with them all. They deserve every minute of it

[@ludomirsteinbruck9376]

You brush your teeth, was the best line. Glorious.

[@treek10k]

Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.

[@Howlingburd19]

Especially the woman at the end, she was so freaking blunt… I love it!

[@persona5305]

⁠@@DaMensch86 that depends on every state's laws I guess. of course they love when people are ignorant of their rights.

[@socialhermit7144]

I mean they only brutally murdered and mutilated a 15 year old.

[@BOOSETO]

That kid was a warrior. Wanted to be in the UFC, young teen punching out 18 year olds, and it took two guys beating his skull with blunt objects and a guy unloading a revolver in him to take him out, and he still got up and made it out the door and down the steps and was still fighting after a headshot... Unbelievable. My sincere condolences to his family. RIP young man!

[@ripazrael]

May he rest in Valhalla

[@briano9397]

That's why this Mike kid did what he did. He felt so humiliated by losing the fight

[@Lilmakk6]

He shouldn’t have said the N word 😂

[@__sativa_diva__5415]

@@Lilmakk6 Yeah that was harsh.. but he didn't deserve to go out like that. All of Seaths's enemies were white, so why the racist posts? Huge mystery

[@johnadams614]

@@Lilmakk6 You a bum, And yo music 🗑🗑🗑😂 Goofy

[@KyleMUC]

One day they’re all gonna grow up and realize how stupid this whole thing was, and how irrelevant these relationships had been in the big picture.

[@steinblitz1506]

Yup! Every time I'm like "will you even know this person in one year?" it's insane

[@heyyouthere551]

They’re around my age and I got to tell you, I’m 30 now and I can’t even tell you the last name of the kid I dated when I was 15. I can guarantee that they’re kicking themselves every second of every day.

[@sebastian.p8132]

​@@heyyouthere551yeah I hardly ever talk to anyone I hung out with when I was 15. I'm also the same age as them . What a stupid group of kids.

[@trish3603]

i can’t even imagine this shit if i was their age though. there is something clearly wrong with them and they feed off each other. complete disgusting nonsense.

[@derek4177]

@@sebastian.p8132 that doesnt mean much so. I am 38 and still have so many friends of my childhood and still know + remember many other people like their siblings and familiymembers. All that is like 20 - 30 years ago.

[@w3zauri]

57:46 When Kyle said 'I wish I would've never met this kid, man.' I thought he is talking about Mike, but when his mother asked him who, and he replied 'Seath', that absolutely blew my mind. He murdered him first and then put the blame on him on top of that. Wise reply from his mother at least.

[@CommanderBravo2]

im assuming seath caused them a lot of problems to begin with, judging by the interactions he had with amber in the facebook screenshots he definitely seemed frustrating to deal with. but he definitely did not deserve to be murdered, and amber is a vile bitch for setting him up like that, girls like her that think its funny to set up a guy they dont like just to see him get fucked up need to have their teeth knocked out.

[@vicki7577]

Wot would of been a better reply was to look at him aghast and say how can you victim blame when you helped murder a child!

[@ryomahoshi4529]

Well,he did say that he hated Seath, and he was friends with Mike. Given that they killed Seath,it would make sense for his mind to go to him before mike

[@katemaxwell5590]

And the mom said I wish you never met Mike makes me believe she knew the whole story

[@barlin4972]

@@katemaxwell5590 I mean as a mom you usually know who the instigator of the group is, she could probably sense it and because of the age difference, it was even easier to see. But she could also know some things, who knows.

[@prisleepswithsirens]

the irony of “i’m so scared, i’m gonna get my ass beat in there” really hit hard. how could she say that and not think, even as an intrusive thought, how scared Seath was when he was getting KILLED. crying their eyes out about going to prison when they brutally jumped and murdered a kid… RIP seath, and condolences to his family and friends

[@fonkamex]

That’s because they hated Seth. Amber manipulated everybody to the point they wanted him annihilated

[@davethemagnificent2576]

I can only hope that she is getting her ass whooped daily. From the interviews I've seen with Seth's parents, she's safer in prison. Seth's father has stated many times if she gets out he will be there to see her. I can't imagine what Seth's final moments were like. This is a heartbreaking case.

[@astranaut3967]

It's even more sickening is all these murderers are in prison, except Charlie Ely. She was able to get one of the best defense attorneys and was able to take a plea deal. After serving 10 years in prison she was released 🤮

[@Amanda_The_American_Mom]

After what they did to this boy I can only hope that karma plays off out and they each get their 🍑 kicked on daily basis. Sorry not sorry. I'm disgusted how these kids are worried about themselves qnd not like life they took typical psychopath behavior 😒😤😑 lock them up and throw away the key. Evil pure evil

[@sleepywife9567]

@@astranaut3967 that’s trash

[@jonteguy]

When he texted her "I swear to God if you have me jumped Amber", if she was a human she would've called it off right there. But even then she was able to and decided to go through with this, not warning him or anything. Horrible human being and she definitely got what she deserved. *RIP Seath.*

[@lonesomebeetroot3376]

It’s pretty telling of how she was towards him that he was even concerned about that.

[@SkyeEdwards-d8s]

@@lonesomebeetroot3376 Yea it is, it's really sad that she went through with it though. It's sad that she lied to him to get him killed. I just hope that Seath rests in peace. What happened to him is horrible, and he was even suspicious about Amber's motives.

[@StarBerryAnt]

She didn’t get what she deserved with a 9 year sentence

[@theresajohnson1959]

Exactly!

[@theresajohnson1959]

She only got a nine year sentence??, What!

[@unclebug35]

i love the little pop ups that happen throughout the video, it’s like unlocking those little hints that pop up during games. like “the police do. this, be aware”

[@PotatoFarmer656]

Amber is so unbearable. She's acting unbothered and annoyed when she wasn't being grilled by detectives. She doesn't even seem to register Charlie's fear that she was being put in "actual" jail, insisting that juvenile jail is rougher and that she had it worst. She had the audacity to act like she was experiencing maltreatment and injustice when she was the primary reason why Seath even went to the house that night.

[@b.g.5869]

You should watch the movie "Bully". It's about a very similar case that also happened in Florida involving a bunch of dysfunctional teens that basically did the same thing.

[@zislec]

Yeah she gets her treatment in Prison.

[@Simon1985_]

Apparently juvenile prisons can be worse, they’re all young thugs who have a point to prove.

[@Okurka.]

Typical teen.

[@samconstantinou2335]

She was on Piers Morgan’s - Killer Women a few years ago when she was 20! She got tried as an adult and so did her brother 🤣

[@SamanthaLeigh7]

The fact that they knew they could call their stepdad to help dispose of the body and they knew he wouldn't call police or even protest speaks volumes about the environment the kids were raised in. And why were Amber and Kyle (who were both minors) even allowed to hang out at Charlie's where everyone else was over 18 and doing drugs?!

[@UnderRebelControl]

Totally agree when I looked at this case my thoughts was the way they are raised in their environment sense this is a major factor, Parents are 100% responsible for their kids as long they are underaged once they are of age they are responsible.

[@katpleroux7756]

Drinking and smoking as teens was normal when I grew up in the 80's. . It's very easy for teens to coordinate with eachother. "Tell your mom we're goign to the movies" etc,.

[@jacoballen5538]

@@katpleroux7756 your not wrong but the parents should have realized something was amidst via timings being messed up constantly I'm sure and the people they where hanging with. It's normally pretty obvious

[@serjeantpepper2986]

And how does the step-dad receive a get-of-jail-free card after helping to dispose of the body and cover up a murder?? Throw the whole damn family in prison. They all have blood on their hands.

[@matthewpaul8755]

@@serjeantpepper2986 probably helped the state

[@changuk_biased2010]

The fact that Mike abused Seath’s body even after he had passed was the saddest thing ever. It’s infuriating how Amber believes she has done no wrong simply because she didn’t pull the trigger. This was her friend and boyfriend and she felt absolutely nothing towards him. How tragic. May Seath rip.

[@businesszeus6864]

he removed the teeth because they don’t burn actually

[@Toffimaus2006]

@@businesszeus6864 he still kept abusing his body in the tub by beating him when it was obvious to kyle that seath had already passed

[@LA-fr4gp]

we call that a sociopath

[@businesszeus6864]

@@Toffimaus2006 oh yeah I forgot abt that

[@sherryevans6968]

Sick America

[@blubb4824]

There is so much crying in that interrogation room...but they are all crying because of their own fate and not a single tear is shed for the life they took. This shows that they truly have no remorse.

[@WonderboyWDE]

It was great to see the detectives constantly making them say Seath’s name and constantly reminding them that Seath was who they killed. They never let the true victim be brushed away.

[@jcowan7928]

I notice that too! Poor Seth! And poor kids that are so young and end up in the jail wording all their life’s while they could be just kids having fun fishing smoke pot and enjoining their life’s... loser!

[@sillywillie5076]

​@@jcowan7928screw the kids that murdered that guy, they deserve what they got, should Think before they act

[@jcowan7928]

@@sillywillie5076 yes sad☹️ many kids wanted to be in their country and having a job and having fun and they worried abt killed and secrets bla bla what a loser man!

[@kiki1334]

​@@sillywillie5076exactly

[@Ommer95]

As nice a sentiment as it is, I think this is purely for record keeping purposes so they cannot claim in court any discrepancy. Which is also why they made them name every individual each time they said "us" or "them".

[@lps-emily]

the detective pulling the toothpaste analogy out of NOWHERE and making her sob was priceless and so deserved.

[@The1nvisibleJeevas]

The handshake got me lmao

[@milanorichie]

That was brilliant .

[@chris_t2020]

@@The1nvisibleJeevas He was so nice. I love the dude.

[@The1nvisibleJeevas]

@@chris_t2020 maybe it’s just me, but I found it really condescending (which is fine cause he’s talking to a piece of shit)

[@kayleesykes2739]

Could you time stamp it ?! Pretty please!!

[@zahavah8]

I have never felt less sorry for a group of crying teenagers in my life.

[@dahshendrick2566]

do you usually cry at night while somebody tugs on your yig yiggy

[@OrionKleinsorge]

I have, probably

[@codzy3532]

i dont

[@RealGIsrael]

Sorry for what it good

[@cinnamondan4984]

Would be more relatable if Sega Dreamcast

[@elmemeo1531]

Being an introvert saved my life

[@phillysfinest215]

Suckin D saved mine

[@theblackbaron4119]

Weeb profile picture checks out. You are correct.

[@traxonn]

No need to pat yourself on the back and try to justify why you were a lonely loser lmao. Cases like this happen but it's not as common as you think.

[@Katchelina]

​@@traxonn1. You are making a lot of assumptions about their intention. 2. You are being a dick for no reason.

[@alphabloodhawk]

@@traxonn Being an introvert doesn't make you a loser.

[@kateilers2510]

The fact they expected 5 years and got life sentences is amazing

[@TheUKisThere]

One of ‘em got out tho…

[@kateilers2510]

@@TheUKisThere I found this out after the fact.She somehow finagled the system and got out.

[@dinzz8657]

@@kateilers2510 I found where she lives. Wanna do the same to her?

[@deml8553]

@@dinzz8657 ?

[@verabolton]

And she got out after 9 years. Disgusting.

[@pcific2bspcific649]

“I want my mommy”….”What will people think”…”How many years?” They deserve the worst for such senseless and selfish horrible act RIP Seath

[@rafaelamb]

My boyfriend will leave me

[@jonlee2217]

@@ceezb5629 We heard his killers say he was abusive; we saw no evidence to back up that claim. Now, what possible motive could his killers have to say something like that? I wonder

[@darkclownKellen]

People dont just go srpund killing people for no reason

[@randyvalencia8786]

Im gonna be like 20 when i get out 😂 what a idiot

[@firstlast-ns2qo]

And she said I might only get out when I’m 20 Lmao

[@joebobdagreat]

Seath is a beast. Hearing them recount him fighting back, it took a full revolver and three big dudes to take him down. Massive respect.

[@grantkeller4634]

Hope the losers who killed him get their ass beat in prison

[@3masonthree]

Rip lil bro

[@user-bz6gh5ng2m]

Truly a warrior, but no man can overcome being outnumbered. Especially when weapons are involved.

[@thomaswagner2243]

Well yeah, he also alrdy beat Mike's ass in 1v1 and was 3 years younger and obviously much smaller, bet Mike's gonna get his wheels took in prison fairly easy

[@kimberlyb9608]

​@@jamescobrien have you never heard of bullies? I'm guessing you haven't since you don't have a clue about how people will gang up on someone with there being no reason for it. Feeling bad for the murderers they are the victims. Justice was served when they got charged with his murder. You must be family or a friend, otherwise you are just a heartless person who see murderers as victims.

[@mario9775]

One of the best channels i have discovered this year. Omg so great and professional

[@wenajames]

You do realize that these videos are stolen from the interrogation and law channel? Anybody can do this..hell you can do it..there's nothing special about it

[@sumirunihon]

1:00:09 "You know how many people are gonna fucking hate us for this? People who don't even know us." You're goddamn right.

[@JadePerry]

Probably the smartest thing that came out of the girls mouth tbh

[@MissSchnickfitzel]

Very narcisstic perspective too. They often think more about how people view them rather than if their actions hurt someone or destroyed/took someone's life

[@manjushanmugam8244]

And they should.

[@ryanmccarthy7858]

"I'm going to be 20 when I get out 😭😭😭😭😭" girl...

[@kirkkirkland7244]

They need to be looking over their backs for life!!!

[@krab4208]

i can’t imagine how scared and painful Saeths last moments were. I’m 21 now and i still feel so young. A 15 year old boy with so much life left to live i can’t imagine how helpless he must have felt. It’s disgusting how not one person felt remorse or sympathy for seth and how awful his death was. May God bless his soul.

[@gabehayes1833]

Yes. So sad. These kids are all crazy.

[@hayderneamah1323]

​​​@@gabehayes1833ve heard many crazy stories and serial killers but usually works alone or even 2 but 5 jesus not one of them shows an empathy for the the life they taken 😮. I don't think I heard of something like this in modren times. Imagine cutting his body to pieces at that age.

[@Life.of.beauty20]

Is this shocking to me that it tastes like five to like six people just a murder one person

[@hayderneamah1323]

@@Life.of.beauty20 i know look at murder cases it's usually one or 2 murders max but this 5 is insane

[@Life.of.beauty20]

@@hayderneamah1323 actually I thought like it was going to be like one or two people in the murder in the rods were like people that were coming in and just tell them like what happened and tell them like they're side of the story and I know where at the ened the lady was like all of you were charged with first degree murder I was like ain't no way five people are the charging one murder

[@larkinsen]

I just love that detective woman how blunt and merciless was with them.Just melted my heart."You didn't think that we recorded what you said?Are you that stupid?" :)) Boy that was awesome.Kudos to that detective.

[@MitoPiano]

that was funny as hel

[@phangirlable]

Yeah, she was awesome. The detective who interrogated Charlie too. Different approach but all very effective. The lady who talked to Roach as well.

[@andy-em5tp]

Time stamp?

[@sea_triscuit7980]

@@andy-em5tp Can't you just watch the video? Or listen to it?

[@depagogd1426]

@andy! 1:02:24

[@mazikeen1875]

Poor kid that passed… even if he wasn’t a good kid, no one should lose their life

[@MickiBowers]

Those little murderers are freaking out and bawling about how their life is over - not one mention of Seath's life being LITERALLY over because of their selfish, entitled, disgusting actions. Zero conscience. Zero accountability. Zero regard for human life - except their own. They make my skin crawl.

[@llSlackingOffll]

Why does this shock people? They killed someone for no good reason obviously they don’t GAF that someone died

[@raindoset5408]

@@llSlackingOffll yeah, those girls are just useless piece of shit that has no purpose in life like what do you expect bro? They killed him for no reasonable things,why do you expect them they feel bad for him. Although Im glad that they pointed it out,making them more embarrassed.

[@vladienee9367]

3 people got life sentences 25 years and 1 got death row is that not a bit much though? even for murder? they killed 1 person and as punishmeant 4 lives got ruined? did ruin the parents lives but giveing 25 years to each of them just for participating is a bit much murdering the kid does ruin the parents lives but those kids are 15 - 20 25 years in prison that means they will be in there damn 40s when they get out and as punishmeant because they ruined 1 kids life and did something stupid there lives got ruined as well best years of there lifes throw out the window I feel like the deserved it and had it comeing but I also feel like it may be too much.

[@Mrkeke35]

@@vladienee9367 they did their justice so state of Florida had to do his justice... it's a circle of crazyness, society shows exemples for individuals so individuals do the same so the society does the same so.... as I'm just doing now, we are keen to look for evil and fight against it. Society does this and those kids did it too. Hitler did it too.

[@floppa731]

@@vladienee9367I mean ya, the idea that the more people involved, the less punished they should be is stupid

[@mic383]

Kyle saying “I wish I never met Seth” and his mom then saying “I wish you never met Mike” says it all. Really shows how messed up they all were blaming Seth for all of their troubles even after they murdered the crap out of him…

[@yenneferofvengerberg4936]

Such a great point

[@claymill1263]

"Murdered The Crap Out Of Him"

[@oasisfani8353]

It doesn´t matter if they met or not. Person is responsible for they´re own actions. Only stupid and sick people do something like that coz: my friend´s did it too.I wouldn´t ever do that kind of thing no matter what would my friend´s ask for me. I wouldn´t even be friends with them anymore if they don´t realize what they are asking. Lucky me that i have normal friend´s who woudn´t even think about doing stuff like that. Disgusting.

[@marksommers4179]

Was Kyle telling the truth about walking in on Seath and his girlfriend or was that some kind of defense he was putting in place for himself? It seems like he told that story to start with, before he came clean. I just can't understand why he hated him so much. It seems he just didn't like him because of his sisters issues with him.

[@thesambehindtheslaughter8843]

​@Mark Sommers even if thats true it would never justify killing that kid. He still hit him from behind with a stick with roach, its still f'd up kids talk shit that's normal cause their kids but planning out a whole ass murder cuz they dislike 1 dude is crazy.

[@amberbiggs]

What is so scary is that this group of people found each other. Not one person said wtf is going on and got out of there to call the police?! You'd think after Mike stated his plan, they all would have looked at each other and said he's crazy, but instead they just all went along with it? That is so unfathomable to me. And Amber thinking she is innocent despite calling Seath and leading him over to be killed? This whole situation is sickening.

[@daithiocinnsealach1982]

A whole nation of Germans did the same thing to the Jews. I truly believe anyone is capable of doing anything given the right situation. We have to watch ourselves.

[@woome101ify]

I mean they were all geeked up. Kyle, his sister and Mike had their motives and the other two just agreed to done with it.

[@sillythygoose]

yeah its kinda scary. These were just normal kids and they just decided to do this. They even got the stepdad to agree to help them.

[@brodhey]

Totally. Embodiment of the perfect storm.

[@daisy9479]

There is no justification for any one of them and what they did. However, if you look up the psychology behind group behaviour in humans, and if their is a main influencer, you could perhaps consider not ALL of them being psychopaths

[@InChristWeTrust999]

‘This is our lives now’ At least you still have your lives

[@megane9248]

It’s soooo satisfying to watch the exact moment when someone realizes that nobody can save them from the consequences of their actions.

[@kkhaze]

FACTS THOUGH 👌🏾💪🏾💯💯💯

[@YourlocalRat902]

FACTS

[@islanders1329fan]

Fuck yeah. Once that happens then they’ll shed a tear.

[@scottyfox6376]

If only we could slo-mo that instant..😏

[@SpaceClick]

Except if you hire ineffective attorneys that somehow allows you to convert a life sentence in to a 9 year sentence. WTF?

[@HMBRTOABLE]

I love how that detective told it to them straight once they started crying and talking about how they were scared. “That’s bull crap. You weren’t terrified.”

[@taytay0518]

Probably was laughing and giggling during the murder at that !

[@holynox]

time stamp?

[@lazarus5037]

@@holynox just watch the whole thing man...

[@holynox]

@@lazarus5037 nah i already found it

[@greglindgren8197]

​@@holynoxhe says at the exact time difference! He did watch it all! Win-win bruh

[@CadetRedShirt]

I am SO glad the mom reported this. If she didn't there would have been no justice for this poor kid and his family

[@Sam-tg4ii]

Yes the mom did the right thing but even without her report, this case would have been 100% solved, maybe 1-2 days longer. These kids would have been prime suspects for the detectives anyways as they would be last to be seen with the victim.

[@billigerfusel]

Thank God Kyle was such a snitch

[@datboibutters]

Wouldn’t have taken much digging to realize that Amber was his ex, check her text messages, location, and that the others involved all lived in the same house.

[@chadsjohnson4876]

@@Sam-tg4ii True, and it came out later that Mike was already starting to hint to others that he had something to do with it. These kids are too callous and stupid to get away with this. In way over their heads.

[@grimtea1715]

The fact that Seath would have been missing, and his cell phone records would probably have helped solve the case. Happy that they l were caught thpugh!

[@vegemitesandwich1113]

Her spelling you like “yuu” pisses me off way more than it should 😂

[@paris6604]

Why is this so real 😭😭😭😭

[@marklefevre3476]

There were so many misspellings throughout! I think it's fair to say they didn't spend much time in school.

[@scottw6704]

It's like every word is spelled as horribly wrong as possible.

[@motleyminded85]

It's really concerning that one of the worst participants got out early. That adult woman participated in the planning and murder of a CHILD, and all she could think about was her husband leaving her. That's a sociopath. That is a dangerous person. Kyle is the only one who showed genuine remorse and honesty.

[@selfesteem3447]

Totally agree. That's okay, she'll get hers when she gets to hell. All of them will, all murderers, who can't admit there culpability, do.

[@Unmaleable]

Kyle was the one who popped it all off!!!

[@worlddomination92]

Kyle said to his mom "I wish I never met Seath" as if the victim was the problem, his mom clocked him fast saying he should have never met Mike. I'm just saying...

[@jac1207]

​@@worlddomination92 Mike was the main component to the death of Seath. If you took Mike out of that whole situation, Seath might've just been beat up, not dead. BUT, the others did keep participating in the whole thing. At ANYTIME any of them could've effectively stopped it by reporting it, but they didn't, with them all actively aiding in some form of restraining/disposing of Seath. Mike might've been the main person out to kill Seath, but the kids all had direct parts to play leading up to him being killed. Mike justifiably gets the harshest punishment.

[@mopground]

I think only amber mike and kyle were involved in the planning. Ya she was the most innocent 1 of the vile bunch by far.

[@tigwe6]

The mother’s lack of surprise when her son told her that they were all going down for murder was incredibly telling... she didn’t even seem shocked that her husband was involved as well

[@robertgregorio4358]

Let's give the mom some credit though. This would have not been unraveled. Thanks to the mom for reporting the incident.

[@Nevernamed]

Some people have very internal emotional reactions, I can speak to it cause I'm one of them. If anything the worse it is the less it shows, at least for me.

[@sharieff6607]

@@robertgregorio4358 nah she kinda had to tell, if she didn’t suspicion would be put on her along with her Children.

[@paisleyonthego]

@@sharieff6607 trust me she could’ve gotten away scotch free

[@mawrak]

The mom was just prepared for the worst it seems. Not everybody reacts by crying or yelling or being emotional. She was trying to approach the situation is a rational way.

[@MeetPatel-vc1zj]

She really said 5 years for taking somebody's entire life that they had ahead of them. Just WOW

[@OMGlvl86turtlepilot]

wish i coulda seen her face when they sentenced her to life

[@isaacmartinez7858]

Is there a sentencing yet? I really wanna see that

[@Nessyloo15]

@@isaacmartinez7858fter 9 years in 2020 Charlie was released, she’s on parole till 2041 she’ll be 45. Mike is the youngest person in Florida to revive the death penalty and his sentence is still the same as of 2023, Kyle and Amber got life sentence, and I’d have to look up what happened to Soto. Haven all I saw was in 2018 he plead guilty to being an accessory AFTER his murder Edit- Soto was also given the the same plea deal “lesser charge” like Charlie and got out in 2020, Amber got a retrial in 2016, but it came back as the same verdict “first degree murder” as they had planned to kill him a week prior, Amber lured him. His remain where found after he was burned and dumbed in a body of water. In three separate 5 gallon buckets and some in Charlie’s backyard quarry. Rip Seath 😢💔

[@egorkotkin]

@@Nessyloo15 thanks!

[@Nessyloo15]

@@jesselee653 I got it in a 2023 update so 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@hannahgreen6439]

Where are they now? Amber Wright (then 15) and Kyle Hooper (16): Life in prison, possibility of parole after 25 years, in 2036 Charlie Ely (18): retrial, convicted of second degree murder, 10 year sentence, freed at 27 years old in 2020 Soto: Life in prison, no chance of parole

[@thatguypaul9711]

Michael Bargo: Death Row

[@mickaylamurphy4191]

​@@thatguypaul9711I thought death row has been out rules now it's just life? Or am I mistaken?

[@thatguypaul9711]

@@mickaylamurphy4191 no he got retried and received the same sentence which was death

[@Gemidori]

I think Ely got arrested again this June for DV

[@sneel444]

She wasn’t rehabilitated? That’s weird

[@kristineh1601]

The editing of this was remarkable. You moved from interview to interview at just the right moments to keep us invested in the story and easy to follow along.

[@L1zz13n3sS]

yeah. i usually zone out a little bit watching these but the editing and pacing on this one is spectacular. the 1hr time mark is usually intimidating but this one's worth it.

[@nickjeffrey8050]

@@muskokamike127Discovery channel, Netflix etc really can’t keep up with some KZbin channels 👌

[@jamezkpal2361]

Very professional

[@lagunapinyata6868]

exactly.. what a hard work.. thank you

[@tracey4077]

@@lagunapinyata6868edae is 33

[@vincentlok8894]

Amber: OMG I'm going to be 20 by the time I get out. No, she was convicted and sentenced to life in prison with review at 25 years. She is already past 25 now and has another 15 years before they even consider if she should get parole or not. But the victim will never get another day.

[@joinyourmind]

this was so funny to me... would love to see her face when she realized that she could be getting life

[@shampoofully7923]

This is so sad but I def laughed at that

[@alexislinehan9561]

I absolutely love this with all my heart!!

[@trueCrimeGuruYes]

She had no idea that you don't have to do a murder yourself to get a murderers sentence

[@7Mushrooms7]

Love this for her. Is there a video that shows the trial or more on the sentences?

[@joshhall4342]

When soto was like "i was just tryna get my life together" my jaw dropped tbh like how is hanging out with children and killing them getting your life together??

[@joydivision2079]

15yo, 18yo is not infancy.

[@KK-----]

@@joydivision2079 weird point to make bro. he's hanging out with murderous teenagers.. that's not "getting your life together"

[@pablovirus]

​@@joydivision2079are you serious right now lmao why would a dude that old hang around doing drugs with literal teens? Way to miss the fucking point

[@joydivision2079]

@pablovirus the OP said, "Kids." Damn Bargo and Ely ( old enough to be married) are not children. Hooper is not a kid eighter. 16yo are not "kids", 2 years from legal adulthood. Jackson and Wright are the only ones you could qualify as "kids. " BUT I agree with you it's weird af. I think those teens lacked parents' supervision. Tatoos and piercings at 15 and 16??? Seath was no angel. His facebook was full of hate and insults. Did his parents never check?

[@mrobermind]

​@@joydivision2079 You really going to lose sleep over whether calling teenage killers kids, children is incorrect? Set your priorities straight fool. You've made a dumb comment.

[@syntaxd6480]

3:32 He says "so what's the issue". Later on when he realises he'll do life in prison, she should have leaned in close and said "so... what's the issue" 😂

[@mrcool7140]

After the dramatic 'was that the honourable thing to do?' and *leaning back in screeching chair* followed by 'exactly' I was fully expecting that ^^

[@jeanneparisot237]

The sickening thing for me is that they never, ever express remorse about what they did, blaming Seath and Mike instead. They talk about there life being ruined, but have zero consideration for Seath's life that they ended. They are only sorry for themselves. Not for tacking a kid's life. [Edit] Wow, guys ! Thanks !

[@margueritecruz4626]

So true

[@nicolasf6407]

Sociopaths often blame everyone else but them for what they do, usually their victims as a way of justify their actions and evade responsabilities over them. Tho, I guess it could be also a defense mechanism in order to not assume their ruined their lives, which is everything they seem to care about. I wonder if all of them would fit on the clinical spectrum of a sociopath.

[@mariobadia4553]

They are sorry they got caught

[@pricklypear7516]

@@nicolasf6407 Oh, criminy, by the pseudo-scientific diagnoses of all you You Tube-degreed true crime "psychologists," EVERYBODY who's ever committed a crime is either a psychopath, a sociopath, or a narcissist. Just stop it! Some people are bad, some people are stupid, ALL people are self-serving. NONE of those characteristics make the criminal a victim of whatever trendy pathology you just learned about.

[@nicolasf6407]

@@pricklypear7516 I was just wondering ma'am. I have near to zero knowledge on psychology, let alone criminal psychology. That's why I can't help but ask myself if I could go through it all without having at least the gut feel that I'm about to take part in doing something horrible. I don't understand the thought process behind every decision they took but I'm not sure if I want to understand anymore. I think you're right, some people by whatever reasons, if there's any, are just evil, twisted, stupid and functional to the situations they come across in life. Blows my mind. If any of that, we all are self-serving, with everything that implies. Scary as fuck to entertain that line of thought...

[@zaddyholmes6735]

I’m shocked and appalled that none of them said something like “we killed someone! He’s dead now and he didn’t deserve that” they just cared about being perceived as murderers (which they are) and their own lives being over. Heinous. Completely despicable.

[@happygirlintheworld]

Textbook narcissist behaviour to care more about how others perceive them than their own actions.

[@aislinnsexkitten18]

@@happygirlintheworld Nah just normal teen behavior not knowing the extent of their actions and also at that age you only really care about what happens yourself when something bad happens.

[@karama5562]

@@happygirlintheworld not all shitty people are narcissistic stop throwing that around

[@ChJuHu93]

Some may be able to get that far further down the line, but if they could have during the interview they simply would not have murdered another person to begin with, would they?

[@slappinshepple]

@SamuraiSeaSnail so a 15 year old who hit his girlfriend deserves to be brutally murdered! You buddy have some serious issues!

[@mightymouse1531]

The fact that Seath thought something was gonna happen and still went on blind trust is so sad 😞

[@solacesal]

Ikr 😢

[@Plazmalock]

For real, he knew he might be risking an assault but not this, poor kid.

[@kobaltseven]

Love is blind.

[@selfesteem3447]

Go with your gut feelings, don't ignore your intuition.

[@autogirl53208]

I know...this is so horrible

[@wrestlinggamesnews4849]

The most disturbing part about this whole thing is how calm and nonchalant the mom is about her kids possibly getting life sentences

[@KitKatNisa]

The most disgusting thing is that they never once show any sadness over what they did. If they'd never gotten caught, they'd still be all smiles. They all need life in prison, full stop. I don't care how old they are, this was a cold-blooded murder and they should be tried as adults.

[@nightthot7809]

I was just gonna comment this, the whole time they only care and cry cuz they got caught, not once does any of them have any remorse for what they did besides kyle, and even then kyle says says some crazy things.

[@watergirl929]

Oh yeah I wanna vomit at these guys! After all they did, killing an innocent boy (just because they *don’t like him personally* ) and taking him away from his family. The only thing they all think about is how scared they are for their own asses in prison and try to victimize themselves blaming Mike for 100% of it

[@STOP_NotDAChess]

the case stated that all of them except Mike got life sentences, Mike got the death penalty

[@STOP_NotDAChess]

Tho Charlie got a retrial and is/will be released at the age of 29 (I think)

[@ilhaamhartley7468]

Exactly that was a life they took so bon chalantly

[@chugchug72]

As a 16-year-old, it's crazy how all these teenagers decided to kill a person together with no hestitation. Mind-boggling how not one single person, thought "hey, this is crazy!" I love true crime and learning about it, but to actually kill a person with no thoughts on how the family or friends will feel is just wow, I can't even put into words how insane this actually is. The lack of empathy is outstanding in this case and how no one cared about the actual victim until they realized that actions have consequences and killing a person is A BIG FUCKIN DEAL.

[@overorider39]

Ikr. But even after they realized their actions have consequences, they still didn't care for the victim. Only themselves. It's all about "me, me, me" to these disgusting "people."

[@kboid5919]

They have iq around 70, combined.

[@inf3rnal_embers145]

@@overorider39 How do you know that?

[@godw1ll99]

@@inf3rnal_embers145 he watched the video?

[@mirobin]

Not one person stood up to save Seth before it went to far. It could have only took one person to say that is enough.

[@m.y.o.b.724]

Sadly the 18-year-olds and the 20-year-old seem to have the same maturity level as the 15/16-year-olds. The fact that the step-father helped in the cover-up tells you about the kind of parenting that was going on in that household. The mom seemed as cool as a cucumber. Unbelievable! R.I.P. Seath. Condolences to the family.

[@thydarklight]

@betha.6279 facts

[@roxasbaker]

@Beth A. the other girl was 18 tho and the brother and sister was kids your right about the siblings but the other girl was a grownup as well

[@leewanyasir394]

@@-i_own_you_- If you were the same at 24 as you were at 15, you need some serious help.

[@mgjamesfin7011]

@@-i_own_you_- right im sending this to the fbi

[@pauloTx]

is not about maturity level.

[@hollyhallucinating5287]

Rest in peace Seath. What a horrible crime.

[@speakingofkate]

What’s scary is 5 people came together to do this! Not one of them stopped to say this isn’t right at anytime. Crazy how a group of kids could be so evil!

[@szkoclaw]

No. They never even thought about it. Most likely, especially the girls, never expected anybody getting seriously hurt. If the one drugged up guy didn't pull a gun and started shooting it would all go down as another teenager fight among boys. Sure, they talked shit about it before, but they are kids. They talk shit all the time and nothing comes out of it. It was all a joke to them: we get him inside, kick his ass, have a laugh. Then Mike pulls a gun and shoots him on the spot at which point everybody is horrified, and shell shocked into just following the ringleader. They were stupid, not evil. Mike is evil, possibly a psychopath (if he snorted pills it was most likely Adderall or other amphetamine, those won't make you a murderer but might lower the threshold for action you wanted to take anyway).

[@JESUSLOVESYOU219]

When kids are in groups it can get really bad. They do things they could never do if they were alone.

[@MoveConsistently]

A kid who kills isn’t a kid anymore. He/she is a killer

[@melissabernett9970]

Birds of a feather flock together. Like-minded people usually find their way to each other. Of course, there was a whole lot of bad parenting that led to these kids turning out this way.

[@Mothcat_444]

Actually oddly not that surprising in my head. Hm. Definitely proves some people just born a lil evil.

[@LabMatt]

I was 15 in 2011 as well, it's so wild to think that while my friends and I were arguing over which cartoon character was stronger this shit was going down involving people our age

[@TheJonah13]

As you get older, you appreciate the insignificance of the emotions you experienced in adolescence, especially as it relates to hurt feelings over relationships. If these kids had just waited a few more months, all of this would have blown over, with Amber and Seath moving on to new love interests. Now one kid is dead and 4 others are in prison for life (Charlie was released in 2020)

[@svanzandbergen]

hopefully you did the sensible thing and picked Goku.

[@SilentHotdog28]

I was 18 and in year 12 in 2011.....I was arguing with my friends about which pokemon was the best, aswell as things like anime, games, movies.......normal shit.

[@shiichu284]

Fr, I cant believe people with the same age as me are getting pregnant, Or doing horrible things in general. Maybe even romance as Im not even allowed to get in a relationship even now.

[@Zy-pt2uz]

@@TheJonah13 were Kyle and amber moved to the big big jail

[@zxrst2valid293]

This is honestly sad. They weren’t even crying for Seath, they were crying because they got caught smh. R.I.P Seath🕊️

[@Thatoneguy-ro1sj]

They did plan his murder

[@Thatoneguy-ro1sj]

So I think that’s why

[@secrets.295]

I think Kyle did have some remorse, that is why he went to the police first.

[@miah0906]

@@secrets.295 no, the guilt was eating him alive not the remorse

[@RiversBliss]

Crying for a person you planned in murdering or crying because your freedom is taken away for very long time?

[@lba7238]

That toothpaste analogy was pretty good. Then asking for her mommy was hilarious.

[@JReece3000]

The mom looked like she was just slightly inconvenienced the entire time. Like she got called down to the principal’s office because her kids were acting up in school.

[@kennanblake1562]

After her son confessing to playing the entire thing with the friends, she's just like, "welp, they got mah phone." It's like wtf is going on her head?

[@bearinpinkk5072]

@Neon Butter it’s probably a combination of poor parenting, how she usually acts on top of wtf is going everything being thrown at her at once.

[@jxn1056]

My thoughts too

[@matjusz8985]

I don't think she knows exactly what happened. It will get to the next day. It's like a trauma and unbelieve

[@ParchedPinemarten]

Absolute dogshit parenting - I guarantee it. Kids don't turn out this way for no reason.

[@lukeyhas3276]

Seath was a trooper. Managed to beat a kid 3 years older than him, take 5 bullets and one to the head and still be alive, crazy how much he withstood. May he Rest In Peace

[@SansTheSkeletonOnYoutube]

Bro was like a training dummy. He can take so much hits until he dies. Man he had dreams and his ex had to end it all and NO ONE CARED so she ligit lured him and died

[@eilliviaa]

L he shoulda never said the n word 🤣

[@lukeyhas3276]

@@jakecharles7511 Abuser? Is there a source for this info? Also, im not praising violent behaivour, im simply stating the facts shown in the video.

[@phrozenliquidz]

​@jakecharles7511 you're going by the word of a psychopath lying murderer lol. You're probably a shittier human being than he was.

[@dawnroache-xs5jy]

God bless your soul ❤️🙏🏻😇👑 💪

[@manks5491]

The satisfaction I felt when that detective told them they will all be booked for murder was amazing. Hats off to that badass detective, and the rest of them too. May Seath rest in peace.

[@danpro4519]

Satisfaction? This is a tragedy all the way around. Everyone involved was likely in trash, low-life circumstances. They talked themselves into the unimaginable. One was murdered and the rest have to rot with that on their shoulders. I'm not saying they shouldn't face harsh consequences, but I wouldn't celebrate a bunch of misguided fools destroying their lives when it certainly wasn't inevitable that they would do such a thing.

[@victoriagraham6470]

@@danpro4519 Calm down, you are misunderstanding the use of the word satisfaction. Everybody is happy the kids got charged for this horrible and senseless death

[@lightaspected]

@@danpro4519 try heightening your reading comprehension before you type an entire paragraph for nothing next time

[@justacatwithasadface2692]

@@___DRIP___ tf, just pick up a book like a normal person would

[@kahvaimuri2824]

@@___DRIP___ Harry Potters are decent read for any age. It's funny though.. Harry Potter being the first thing to come to you'r mind when somebody mentions books.

[@MutaleM]

How do 15 and 16 year olds live with boyfriends yet their parents are alive, not homeless and well? We need to do better as parents. We have to be responsible for the people we bring to this earth. I cannot sleep when my 17 year old is not home by 9pm. My condolences to Seath's family. RIP young man.

[@stephanieanikwe9116]

Going through all the comments, I noticed we have not really laid emphasis on the mom being a stand up citizen, she immediately called the cops after Kyle confessed to her, and this helped made the investigation wrap up pretty early. It's so sad she has to go through this pain and humiliation of even having her husband included 🥺

[@nikiTricoteuse]

Good point. She did the decent thing and it's cost her a son, a daughter and a husband.

[@OnHisDime]

please.... she raised heathens and her guy was in on it..... wasnt mom of the year. what 15 year old get to stay out all night in the first place?

[@danielh3668]

​@@OnHisDimeheathens 👀

[@Thedutchjelle]

@@OnHisDime I was allowed to? Why wouldn't you be? Most 15 year olds dont go on murder sprees.

[@starksandshields5151]

@@OnHisDime 15 y/os have sleepovers with friends all the time. It was the weekend. You don't have to be "mom of the year", but she DID call the cops immediately once she learned something was up, and her lack of reaction (though you can see her a couple of times clearing tears with her pinky) is not unusual when someone is numb with shock/grief.

[@jordanrants1660]

this case is insane… 5 people collectively did not stop a murder from taking place. it really goes to show how the people you surround yourself with are reflections of yourself. scary.

[@posticusmaximus1739]

Unfortunately this is not the first time. Happened to Bobby Kent in the 1990s. They made a movie called "Bully". Strangely, it also happened in FL.

[@AGdawn]

@@posticusmaximus1739 I've seen the documentary about them. What a bunch of morons. One of them had never even met the victim. Scary.

[@michelleewel2829]

Show me your friends I will show you your future. They will bring either assets or liabilities.

[@jamiecrawford7220]

It was that specific generation that only cared about themselves unequivocally to the point of socialpathic narcassist personafication.. It's all about them regardless of what they do irrefutably... There is millions of them right now as adults in this world of there kind unfortunately..

[@dead2rights674]

These people clearly aren't the cream of the crop

[@xXebonyXroseXx]

The fact that Amber keeps saying she didn't do anything is just mind boggling to me. I know at the time this footage was taken she was 15, but even so, you lured your ex-boyfriend to what you knew would be his death. I have no doubt that if this hadn't happened and Amber grew older and got married, we'd be seeing her as an adult in an interrogation room on suspicion of murdering her husband.

[@herroyalsquirrelness8167]

I have no doubt she riled them all up. I mean, according to mike she made claims seth r**ed her. She made claims he assaulted her all the time. Everyone hated the kid based on tales she told and drama that unfolded from those stories.. and him being in bed with her brother's ex. Now that the evil deed is done she wants to throw her hands up and say "they're clean. I didn't do anything!". Narcissists do that kind of stuff all the time. They get others to do their bidding to keep their 'hands clean', so they can always declare innocence even when they're the ones who set things in motion. The actual name for those doing their bidding is 'flying monkeys'.

[@madamecarly]

She definitely gives off that vibe. They all have that white trashy vibe too lol

[@mmm6325]

Its still probably gonna happen. Notice how we didnt hear anything about hers and Kyles sentence. Because they are minors and were probably released at 18. Ed Kemper killed 2 people at 15 and was released a few years later. Those 2 are out there for sure.

[@keithbaker1951]

How do yuu kno dat?

[@xXebonyXroseXx]

@@mmm6325 At 1:14:00 they list that all 4 of them (Amber, Kyle, Charlie, and Justin) were convicted of first degree murder and received life sentences though.

[@Perseus-u4g]

“Since you put it that way.” I laughed at that, won’t even lie. Bro switched so quick

[@Spuggky45]

That one girl (I think her name was Charlie) was the one who truly disgusted me. You were complicit in luring a young man to his own brutal murder, and all you can think about is your boyfriend is gonna leave you. Makes me sick.

[@Cissy777]

All of them are monsters

[@simmorg290]

Charlie Ely has already been released after serving nine years as stated in the video. The detective who interviewed her screwed up big time.

[@Howlingburd19]

@@simmorg290 it’s not like she has a future. Imagine trying to get a real job with a background of being guilty for murder lmao

[@Strahan740i]

@@simmorg290 Agreed. It makes me sick that she only did like eleven years or so. All of those narcissistic brats are fucked up and shouldn't see the light of day again.

[@Get_em_gone_888]

@@Howlingburd19 well she got married in jail and her husband waited for her and there’s a whole Facebook page supporting her that got thousands of likes people are sick bro .. I hope if she has kids her kids find out n get scared or the monster that had them

[@JhonnyBoi]

These 2 female investigators have been the best investigators I’ve seen. They were quick to call out the bs and not play little games or mind tricks. I have a little sympathy for Kyle for being the most honest and only 15. I think he shouldn’t have gotten a life sentence, but a really long one. Freed when he is a senior citizen. Can’t believe the stepfather hasn’t received any prison time.

[@MrFredstt]

According to the comments, in a 2 hour video of them on "crybaby confessions" Kyle had no remorse for killing the kid

[@Olden_1]

Kyle got freed like in 2019

[@Random-xw1fg]

I have noticed that female police officers and detectives take no nonsense

[@ShaggyRogers1]

@@Olden_1 Kyle is still in prison. Charlie Ely is the one that got out. Charlie was ruled as a mistrial on federal appeal due to counsel being ineffective, and then she took a 10yr murder 2 plea to avoid being tried again on murder 1. All of the other killers are still behind bars, with Bargo on death row.

[@k4rec4]

The stepfather got 30 years.

[@s.l.george7348]

Allowing your underage kids to hang out and stay overnight in a home owned by an 18 year old is beyond problematic.

[@isadoraguilar2672]

Yes it certainly is!!! I couldn't agree with you more.

[@k8cking]

Well ya dont think its gonna be murder do ya🤔

[@s.l.george7348]

@@k8cking and yet that is exactly what happened

[@slaybackk39]

@@k8cking still a bunch a teenagers

[@slaybackk39]

wouldn’t trust that

[@ivannaalpizar8682]

I can’t believe they were all crying in that room for what would happen to them in prison. There was no guilt, no remorse for killing a person.

[@alicjakowalska5529]

I like how the woman, who enters the room to tell the three, what's gonna happen to them. She manages the situation perfectly, she is calm, but also firm and blunt. And respectly honest.

[@SoyAntonioGaming]

she seems like a psycopath investigator. these are just kids ,they did wrong, mistakes happens to every1 sometimes especially when young. they lernt their lesson and should all have been freed a long time ago.

[@yessgood4891]

@@SoyAntonioGaming Not only did these guys commit such a heinous crime, but they showed absolutely no remorse for their actions until they were caught, they deserve to be treated like this.

[@mikayladaciolas]

@@SoyAntonioGaming Honestly, she could and should have treated them worse. They planned the murder of a poor 15 year old boy and showed no regret for the killing, the only cared that they were getting punished for it. they deserve to suffer everyday

[@Off-with-a-bang]

@@SoyAntonioGaming You're a damn fool if you think murder is something so minor. They knew what they were doing,doesn't matter if they're under 20. If you're old enough to plan out a murder,you're old enough to face the harsh reality of your actions.

[@irjiiu1041]

@@SoyAntonioGaming damn, a murder is a 'mistake'. I think there's something wrong with your brain, you might want to check it out.

[@taecampus]

"Take a deep breath. You'll have no bond. You won't be getting out." Jeeez savage, straightforward and blunt. Love this detective.

[@lowhp_comic]

I think it was more in response to the 18yr old asking "for how long" she'll be in jail for, but still love the completely contrasting clauses she threw at these degenerates 😂

[@taecampus]

@@lowhp_comic 😂 yeah I thought so. But still, once she got all the answers she needed she was like "yeah... you guys ain't going no where!"

[@goose2eyes]

YEAH lol! these idiots deserve it! please put all of them on death row not just Mike Bargo!

[@markocar77]

I dont know i thinks its a liiiiitle bit too much honestly ☺

[@fkcoolers2669]

@@markocar77 Nope. All she did was spell out the next steps.

[@jodywheeler6899]

Michael Bargo was sentenced to death and the other 4 were sentenced to life in prison no chance of parole. God rest Seth's soul. He was fighting so hard to survive.

[@Trust-me-I-am-a-dentist]

Charlie Ely was released from prison in 2020 after almost 10 years. Her case was done over because a new judge declared that she didn't got a fair trial when she was sentenced to life in prison.

[@Howlingburd19]

@@Trust-me-I-am-a-dentist either way, it’s not like she has a future. Imagine trying to get a real job with a background of being guilty for murder lmao

[@rickrollrizal]

​@@Howlingburd19 onlyfans? There are simps who love a "dangerous" woman

[@rickrollrizal]

​@@Howlingburd19 ew. I just googled her. She married a sex offender.

[@HarpieLady683]

​@@Howlingburd19I dont wanna sound sexist but she might just become a housewife if she marries someone

[@hazel3564]

This has to be the sickest thing I’ve ever heard. Out of all of those people no one stepped up to say no? What kind of parents did these people have? This is just scary.

[@JenRaeArt]

Justin being all "my life is ruined I'm sad". Dude, you literally assisted in the TAKING of another human's life. It screams how selfish and self absorbed these kids are. I don't think they truly realise what they've done.

[@Alaprine]

It's like their brains stopped developing at six and this was the unfortunate result.

[@HighonBoots]

“I just want my life to end” Don’t worry sugar. It already is. Buh-bye!!

[@dahshendrick2566]

do you usually cry at night while somebody tugs on your yig yiggy

[@jonathanmarois9009]

Self-awareness in humans begins developing around age 3... some "kids" these days are nearing adulthood and still haven't fully developed the mindfulness of a 3 year old...

[@chriselias3881]

I still don't understand why he got involved. Seems like he knew the victim the least out of everybody and was just a friend of Kyle.

[@justing6292]

Kyle: "I wish I would've never met this kid." Mom: "who?" Kyle: "Seath" Mom: "I wish you would've never met Mike." Kyle: "....that too." How callous can you be? Blaming Seath like it's HIS fault he was brutally murdered by you and Mike's actions? I used to never understand why my parents didn't let me hang out with certain people growing up, but seeing this case and where those people I knew are now, I completely get it.

[@kiddo4711]

It could be that he thought that not meeting seath would have meant that they werent counted in the murders, as he said at one point seath was sleeping with his ex as well which made him dislike him even more, mike whom is the one who mainly did everything to make everyone band the hate together might have at some point convinced kyle that he was the only one kyle could trust, even in a moment like this being told every day that seath was the issue the first thing that would come to mind then is seath, though mike started it more than likely in the back of kyles mind it could still be trying to say, Mikes good, hes not that bad, he helped me back then. trying to justify it unwillingly since kyle had been malnipulated for so long, i mean hes just 15, hes still under impression and change, he didnt have his dad or mom, he was left at that house from his step-dad. mike could have been at the time the one he leaned on the most which is why he didnt think of mike first.

[@kiddo4711]

not saying what he did wasnt wrong tho- i mean he was the first to confess and regret what he did. still in no was was right, i just see it as he was the most malnipulated by mike and others in the situation

[@Coughing_Blood]

@@kiddo4711 u a smart one

[@moralfuxery]

Facts

[@dont-touch-mepg1392]

Shit I live in Baltimore and the shit I could tell u. I had 5 13 year Olds raped and kill my neighbors granddaughter and burned the house down. I had a friend at 17 break into an old couples house and strangled em both for the fuck of it. I was shot at for being white and sitting on a bench. They drove past, stopped and said, "hey white boy, get the fuck off our bench. Blacks only bitch", and put the gun out the window and shot 4 times and luckily they missed. Had a bullet wiz past my head. I heard that shit whistle past. They stopped at the end of the road and I ran away fast as fuck. My friend ally was shot dead on that same street 2 weeks later. She was put on her knees and shot through the eye at 18. I saw a 15 year old across the street from me get shot out of the blue for his bike. I thought he knew the guy because he was riding and stopped abruptly and was talking with him. I wasn't paying to much attention until last second I looked up and saw the gun rise and shoot. Again I ran because fuck being a witness. I took my daughter to McDonald's and there was a dead young man in the road apparently shot moments before I got there because there were no cops or nothing there yet and my daughter saw that shit at 4. Sad shit is it wasn't the last time she would see a dead body. What I'm trying to say is that all these kids are trying to be gangster for some reason and movies, music and everything encourages it. And Baltimore been run by democrats for 60 years. From what I can see they don't like their voters. They rob us blind and make em live in he'll. But their all to fucking stupid to see it. Don't have to vote red but how about independent. Say but seeing these white kids from good neighborhoods try so hard to be the scum I grew up with is beyond infuriating...

[@adrichie23]

I love that detective that came in and told them how they were being charged. There was no sugar coat, no easing into it, she saw them for what they were and she told them. Very professional.

[@Av-fn5wx]

Lol Sugar coat?? For what?? They didnt just mess up some home work, they commited a murder.

[@cuauhtemocgonzales2530]

​@@Av-fn5wxif you seen how a lot of detective interviews. The detectives usually sugar coat things to ease them. These detectives just want answers. None of the sugar coating questions.

[@GraceGiles-gigibaby]

​@@Av-fn5wxyou

[@lesleytetley9197]

*unprofessional. Unless you were being sarcastic (I find it hard to tell these days. Lol) you are wrong. There are policies and procedures to be followed when speaking to suspects, and these detectives broke a lot of them. These kids were guilty, yeah, but intimidation, lying to the suspects, coercion, and belittlement are not professional, or even legal in many places. They would've got their admissions without all that, and they can't say what the kids are going to be tried with until court proceedings. These malpractices often result in false confessions (again, not in this case, these kids are guilty af), that's why laws exist against using them. This was sloppy police work at best, and all just to get the confession quicker. As for personal feelings, when you're police or a detective, you leave your own personal feelings at the door! That's what being professional is. You stay neutral and calm throughout interrogations, if you can't control your own emotions then you're in the wrong job.

[@boomer1954ful]

All three of the Detectives were very professional. Kudos to them. It was so hard for them to not just start screaming at these stupid, narcissistic, selfish, evil, immature young people “YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU HAVE EVEN DONE!, DO YOU?!?” Because each of those suspects were SO wrapped up in themselves. That’s ALL they cared about. Period.

[@TikiTyler9]

Watching all of these detectives interrogate was like watching artists. Brilliantly done and beautifully played. Thank you for your roles in putting these young monsters away.

[@Argelius1]

I love how the mom has zero reaction when she's told "both your kids are in for murder".

[@Pozorrogo]

She seemed more upset her husband was part of it.

[@misanthropic-mi]

Their mom is such a piece of work.... I don't know of any responsible mom who would be alright with her underage daughter dating/seeing an adult (Mike). Only saving grace for her is that she contacted police when Kyle told her (unless it's another mom that he told.)

[@dannywilliams6290]

@@Pozorrogo yep I noticed that too

[@Taxman1509]

@@misanthropic-mi She probably hoping all her kids will go to jail so she doesn't have to deal with them anymore. Why else would you not ask for a lawyerAnd let your underage kids incriminate themselves.

[@thegreencat9947]

@@Uhhlaneuh probably saw it coming.

[@knowsmebyname]

1:00:00 Amber "nobody wants to be around people that murder 15 year olds. Hell I don't even want to be around them...and I'm one of them now." A brief flash of insight.

[@MindTwistEsp]

Cold af

[@peaceunion5316]

Immediately followed by “and I didn’t even do anything” so that window of insight was quickly killed

[@xxy190]

hate to say it, but BARS.

[@FluffyandDixie]

She probably knew she was being recorded. Also she might've tried to cope

[@1984isnotamanual]

@@peaceunion5316well she didnt really. She didn’t participate or lure him. It just happened at her house. She should have warned the victim but that’s not really a life in prison kind of sentence. In fact Charlie is the only one that is out of prison. She got out a couple years ago after 9 years in prison.

[@emmiberg4207]

“If I get 5 years, I’ll be 20 by the time I’m out!”….. lmao that girl can’t be serious 🤦‍♀️😂😂

[@goldenboy8334]

🤣

[@Feintgames]

No kidding

[@camh4659]

Do we know how much time they all ended up getting? The trials pretty much been over since the beginning because that kid snitched right?

[@nancylongworth9617]

If you get life, you'll be dead by the time you get out, honey.

[@briansprague3427]

@@camh4659everyone got life sentences thankfully

[@Kumar_6791]

Every young person should be required to watch this video. It clearly demonstrates how a situation can spiral out of control and result in devastating consequences for everyone involved. This story is so tragic, especially for Seath and his family. 😞

[@DarthUmbreon]

The fact that they all agreed they wanted Seath dead and helped coordinate it without thinking twice about it and still think that they did nothing wrong because Mike was the one who actually shot him might be the most unsettling part to me.

[@tundrazzr3659]

"I started thinking to myself. Man, what did he do to make them people that mad?!"

[@gin3314]

Completely agree! I couldn’t believe the 18 year even said this. The fact she didn’t think she did anything just bc she wasn’t the shooter is unbelievable to me. She should definitely know better at her age.

[@cedricdellafaille1361]

I think in that situation it was more sheep movement. One says yes, and the rest has to agree

[@A1_Amir]

The only time i didnt think a name like “Roach” should be trusted🤦🏻‍♂️

[@revelation9125]

@@A1_Amir dude looked like a roach and same for that Mike kid. Looking like rejected tiktokers.

[@laur131306]

The beginning is already insane. Quite rich coming from a kid that helped with a murder that they want "their mommy". I'm sure the guy you killed wanted to live and his mom too. Thanks EWU!

[@lilo_7685]

Exactly what i was thinking! The audacity

[@laur131306]

@@lilo_7685 and even more gross is Amber accuses him of abuse and cheating after being the ringleader in his murder. This girl is evil

[@foxarror]

we said literally the same thing. same mind

[@laur131306]

@@foxarror insane is pretty much the only way to describe it 😳

[@Lifesizemortal]

As soon as the narrator said "Florida" I just nodded my head "of course".

[@Periwinkleblue.]

This was deeply disturbing. Not one mention of remorse for Seath, but endless concern for themselves. Excluding Mike, they are old enough to commit the unthinkable yet seemingly too young to grasp the consequences of their actions. Mike, on the other hand, appeared to be a shrewd and hardened criminal despite his young age.

[@lowbrowrodeo]

Yep, that's the teen brain. Of course a lot of teens do have foresight and are compassionate, but teens are generally more impulsive and self involved than adults because the front lobe hasn't developed fully and they are in development, so they are more impulsive, and when you put drugs in the mix... It also has a lot to do with character and upbringing and not just biology. But to see this play out the way it does isn't so strange.

[@sadpanda3431]

@@lowbrowrodeo love your comment👏👏👏👏

[@xXGabrielTrapXx]

I haven't seen anyone talk about the fact the 15 year old was with a 20+year old, that is also pretty fucked up

[@acjohn6995]

Mentally and emotionally under-developed human beings are capable of amazing things.

[@fierydog5605]

@@acjohn6995 And some cities in MA want these people voting at 16.

[@tiffanymarie9750]

All the drama of being a teenager feels super important and intense at the time, but then you mature and realize that almost none of it mattered. We're close to the same age, so I can only imagine how stupid they feel sitting in prison right now. Hopefully they've come to understand and own their horrific actions and the consequences, but some people always see themselves as the victims so 🤷

[@josephdillard9907]

Yeah the problem of some people always seeing themselves as victims is becoming a real common and major problem in society right now, and Charlie Ely has already been released because of a legal loop hole she used.

[@TheRockgremlin]

I really appreciate that you put up pictures of the suspects as their names are called out in the narrative. This helps me keep track of faces and names and allows me to get a better grasp on the story details.

[@dawey8897]

Plus the subtitles are necessary too and is a great addition

[@ladycake1515]

I thought the same thing :)

[@gradymilholen9979]

"If you declare with your mouth "Jesus is Lord," and if you believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from death, then you will be saved."Romans10:9. JESUS CHRIST is the ONLY way to Heaven!!! Find RIGHTOUSNESS, HAPPINIES, JOY, PEACE, FUFILLMENT, AND LOVE IN GOD AND ONLY GOD

[@dantesos7564]

Same for me, as someone with adhd, i struggle to keep track sometimes so visuals help a lot!

[@nikkigardiner9426]

“I want my mommy” Oh shut up. I’m sure that young man wanted his mommy too as you were brutally murdering him 😢

[@yoyourstanker6669]

So sad. 😢 people are evil keep vigil

[@ritawashere5787]

I know right! The first girl being interviewed has the last name Ely, she's preening herself like a monkey in the interrogation room. Is she the one that was saying she wanted her mommy?

[@ritawashere5787]

The one boy that fell apart and went to his mother, I'm glad he did. I'm early in the video. He said Mike went nuts and was pulling his teeth out and playing with his tongue and he had to pull him off of him. That might guy, is scary. I'm not sure if any of these kids would have ever murdered anybody had they not all been together for this perfect storm. I guess like mob mentality.

[@latinatech]

The kids that are being raised without any rules or discipline. So sad. These narcissistic little morons have no remorse or empathy for others.

[@yoyourstanker6669]

@Luka Tim lol no you need a mother to tell you stop 🛑

[@keithwhite5823]

I almost walked into a situation like this when I was 18,except all five of the people involved later swore that the guys just wanted to give me a beating, not kill me. One of them wanted to fight me but didn't know if he could take me alone so he enlisted two friends to help. My ex-girlfriend and the girl who owned the house agreed to lure me over there in exchange for some weed. Thankfully, something just didn't feel right so I circled around the block and recognized their cars parked on the street behind the house. Obviously, I left. It wasn't until about a week later that I found out what their plan had been. Makes me wonder, if it got out of hand and I fought back would they have killed me?

[@jread5400]

I had the same stuff happen to me. It’s scary cus you never know. Mob mentality and that can mess with people’s minds

[@NewWesternFront]

@@jread5400 what happened

[@mikeprime5028]

Scary stuff ,I think we all have similar events ,teenage life of what ifs.

[@userrexha2525]

Oh my gosh that's so scary, God saved you there...I'm glad you listened to your gut

[@keithwhite5823]

@Stephen Smith That's what I have always suspected .One of the guys involved latter went to prison for attempted murder and armed robbery (although this was about 8 years later)

[@garber6723]

The “I want my mommy” at that age is crazy lmfaooo

[@shaded_1488]

The fact that Charlie and Amber were crying and saying they were “scared” and “weren’t apart of it” makes me really hate them. They couldn’t just own up like a decent human and tried to play the victim when they are responsible for a 15 yr olds murder. Kyle is respectable because he was decent enough to own up for what he did because he knew it was wrong. Charlie shouldn’t have been let out. Edit: I've seen some replies and I just wanted to note I'm not saying Kyle is a nice or sweet guy. I'm just saying over how the other 3 acted at least he was honest. I am not saying he is just suddenly innocent just because he confessed to the horrible murder he committed to.

[@stupidhead9117]

*own up

[@hugostiglitz5186]

☕

[@bbycherub2420]

@@hugostiglitz5186 😐

[@mistersadaimusic]

The fact that Charlie tried to make a gofundme to get money from people after all of this and still not accept any accountability for her role is honestly disgusting.

[@trapgothhh]

well, she literally will never make anything in her life. she most likely won’t ever get a job, and will probably have to live with her parents for the rest of their life. after that, she will probably be homeless or home hop if she can even make friends. her life outside of jail is forever gonna be terrible and filled with depression and failure just like jail.

[@LikeTotallyDonut]

Them arguing who is going to the worse place is actually sickening, them blaming mike and not even recognizing that they all participated and assisted. That’s so sickening.

[@motorbreathjz]

well when your life flashes before your eyes you go numb.. and hyper focus on whats about to happen

[@motorbreathjz]

only thing they saw were bars and concrete in their head..

[@JoeKing69]

That was funny af it was like an episode of IASIP

[@SinfullyHera]

And all the more satisfying to see their sentences

[@N2411345]

Regret is a valuable feeling thats been missing in todays world. Children and many young adults tends to not consider consequences of their action. They only know about cancel culture.

[@HeatherL7290]

I love these no BS detectives!

[@andreacowan3691]

Roach’s nickname suits him well. Seath lost his life over absolutely nothing. And they all really believe they did nothing wrong and crying for themselves instead for the young man’s life they took. Makes me SICK!!!

[@Desteny1v1]

It’s sounds like he was not a very good person at all, I’m definitely not defending these horible people but just saying it as it is -edited hey to all the people who misinterpreted this I’m not quite sure if what was said about seath was made up or what but sorry if I got anyone mad.

[@Desteny1v1]

@@Chicxulubs I’m completely satisfactory with how these sycopaths got themselves life sentences (except for Charlie or something which was horrible judgment by the courts) so please understand I’m not defending these people’s actions in any way the things these people did to seath are horrible in every way

[@Desteny1v1]

@@Chicxulubs Yeah sorry as you probably guessed yes, I am a child 😅 but personally I haven’t a lot of interactions with 16-18 year olds especially not psychopathic kids like this. But sorry if what I was saying came out wrong.

[@as-ep7ev]

Raise humans out of a little decent cultural context, and this is what you get. It takes a lot of effort and time to build empathy in a human being. Without it, you have selfish, jealous, impulsive, murderous creatures. Look at the mother of the kids. She doesn't have a clue, does she? And the fathers..? all of them seem to be totally lost. Anyway this isn't an extraordinary event. This is just raw human nature.

[@mentaldeclinelive1335]

@@Chicxulubs he could've warranted it. I really doubt it, but It's possible right?